Launch Thread: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Turksat 5A

[Anonymous No.12555739]

The start of a fresh new year of launch threads! edition

Livestream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I0UYXVqIn8
Launch window: Thursday January 7 8:28 PM EST / 01:28 UTC (4 hour window)

Probability of violating weather constraints: 30% (https://www.patrick.spaceforce.mil/Portals/14/Weather/Falcon%209%20TurkSat-5A%20L-0%20Forecast%20-%207%20Jan%20Launch.pdf?ver=AwZHbnU9dCUTnG_A3Dnh-A%3d%3d))
Backup launch window: January 9 8:28 PM EST / 01:28 UTC (4 hour window)
Launch vehicle: SpaceX Falcon 9 with first stage B1060.4 (prior launches: GPS III SV03, Starlink-L11, Starlink-L14)
Launch pad: SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida
Fairings: One half flew ANASIS-II, the other half flew GPS III SV03
Fairing recovery: Possible, on fairing recovery vessels 'Ms. Tree' & 'Ms. Chief'
First stage landing: On autonomous spaceport droneship 'Just Read the Instructions'
Payload: Turksat 5A, a Ku-band communications satellite for Türksat AS, based on the Airbus Eurostar-3000EOR bus
Payload mass & deployment orbit: 3,500 kg; GTO (will end up at 31°E)
>https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/turksat-5a.htm
>https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021/01/spacex-turkish-satellite-first-launch-year/

Launch viewing guide for Florida: http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html
SpaceX twitter: https://twitter.com/SpaceX
F9 stats: 103rd launch, 64th landing, 46th core reuse
* you may have noticed the stats have shifted, that is as they no longer include FH core landings and reuse

[Anonymous No.12555741]

NSF stream for those that want it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H05-Qvr0cGA
SpaceX mission control stream will be posted when available

[Anonymous No.12555743]

[Anonymous No.12555756]

Dubs and falcon explodes

[Anonymous No.12555757]

>>12555739
No static fire...please don’t explode you faggot rocket

Reminder that Falcon 9 Block V is mulatto

[Anonymous No.12555760]

Trips and falcon9 goes kaboom

[Anonymous No.12555763]

>>12555757
>needing to static fire when it was already tested in McGregor and now has 3 successful flights and landings under its belt
that there is oldspace thinking mister. Logically, it's unnecessary spaceframe wear and AMOS06 potential to static fire

[Anonymous No.12555799]

Any weather reports?

[Anonymous No.12555972]

Musk has more wealth and more stuff in space. How can Jeff Bozos compete?

[Anonymous No.12555973]

1 bong left

>>12555799
think it's still 30%

[Anonymous No.12555980]

>>12555972
Bezos wants to move earth’s industrial capacity off-planet to O’Neil cylinders. Musk wants Mars to be self sustaining. It’s different realms of space, while competition will happen the goals are wildly different

[Anonymous No.12556023]

>>12555980
also totally different time scales, Musk wants to do something this century

[Anonymous No.12556027]

>>12555972
>How can Jeff Bozos compete?
By doing what he already is doing. Ignore SpaceX unless there is a lawsuit to have

[Anonymous No.12556037]

>>12555972
Jeff is playing the waiting game, why bother wasting time on R&D when you can let spaceX do it for you, review it, and improve it.

Amazon is not exactly in a race of any kind as it has basically an endless supply of cash coming in. They want to see what everyone else does, then deliver something new or in the middle that others aren't doing for a niche market to monopolize on.

[Anonymous No.12556058]

I live 15 miles from cape canaveral but it's pretty cloudy rn
don't know if I should bother trying to watch

[Anonymous No.12556076]

>>12556058
do itttt

[Anonymous No.12556077]

>>12555757
Did they stop doing them now?

[Anonymous No.12556088]

Hearing about an hour to launch, tentatively.

[Anonymous No.12556105]

>>12556088
Thank god, I'm starving

[Anonymous No.12556124]

>stream countdown reset to 45:00
FIDDLESTICKS

[Anonymous No.12556127]

>countdown timer increased

[Anonymous No.12556133]

SpaceX Audio LIVE
https://youtu.be/IZqNFzX1CSk

[Anonymous No.12556188]

>>12556127
>it's another delayed-to-the-end-of-launch-window episode

[Anonymous No.12556193]

>Spacecraft is on internal power
Ayo

[Anonymous No.12556200]

looks like it's casual Thursday down at hawthorn

[Anonymous No.12556205]

>>12556200
They brought out the D-team for Turk launch webcase at least.

[Anonymous No.12556211]

when are they gonna try another dual catch ree

[Anonymous No.12556214]

>>12556205
I eagerly await the webcast's Turkish promo video segment

[Anonymous No.12556216]

HERE WER GOOOO
IT'S GONNA THROOOOST

[Anonymous No.12556220]

"we use gravity on a car to keep all the fuel near the bottom of the tank" well uhhhh that's one way of putting it

[Anonymous No.12556225]

fuck it's not even a Turkish voice over artist

[Anonymous No.12556227]

Roachsat STRONGLY in space

[Anonymous No.12556229]

>>12556214
Damn, I thought you were kidding. It's kind of weird for them to be marketing on a SpaceX stream, but whatever. The NRO clip made a bit more sense.

[Anonymous No.12556232]

Turks, eh?...Alright..

[Anonymous No.12556233]

Guys, do you think the satellite might cover Turkey, the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Central Asia? I'm not quite sure about it.

[Anonymous No.12556234]

>>12556229
were you here for the bangabandhu webcast? it was LEGENDARY

[Anonymous No.12556236]

it's a fucking commsat, don't pretend it's anything more

[Anonymous No.12556237]

>>12556233
I'm disappointed to find there are no actual turkey's involved with this.

[Anonymous No.12556239]

We did it bros. We got Turkey into space.

[Anonymous No.12556241]

>>12556233
kek it was so epic

[Anonymous No.12556246]

>>12556234
Gonna have to (re?)watch that afterwards. I don't remember it.

[Anonymous No.12556249]

>>12556037
He can try that, but it's a shit strategy. Funding R&D doesn't just develop new technology in a vacuum. It also builds your company's R&D capacity going forward. It attracts the highest-quality engineers, allows you to recruit the most promising new grads and poach the best engineers from your un-sexy competition. This all makes developing the next advance easier, while your competition still has to catch up with your last one. BO will end up further and further behind, and the only reason it's acceptable to Bezos is because his heart was never really in it to begin with.

[Anonymous No.12556252]

ONE MINUTE till the start of SpaceX's 2021 campaign

[Anonymous No.12556259]

[Anonymous No.12556260]

[Anonymous No.12556261]

That bright camera exposure lmao. Almost thought something went wrong.

[Anonymous No.12556262]

Poor camerawork tonight. Gotta be those clouds plus night launch.

[Anonymous No.12556263]

>>12556249
Amazon is probably gonna get broken up by the US government soon as well. Just twiddling their thumbs for months on end isn't gonna be a winning strategy.

[Anonymous No.12556267]

>click on stream
>T+0:06
GODDAMMIT

[Anonymous No.12556268]

>>12556259
first launch thread launch cat of 2021. we made it lads, here's to the new year of SPPPPAAACCEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.12556273]

>>12556268
Wait is this the first satellite launch of the year?

[Anonymous No.12556274]

good sep. callout was early?

[Anonymous No.12556275]

>>12556263
I wouldn't bet on it. The centrist wing of the DNC is currently in the driver's seat, and they tend to get along quite well with west coast billionaires.

[Anonymous No.12556276]

come on back down B1060! and fairings

>>12556273
first SpaceX one

[Anonymous No.12556277]

>>12556274
Yeah there was like a 10 second delay in coverage. Seems like too much to just be a camera delay (fairing sep delay just now was only 3 seconds or so).

[Anonymous No.12556286]

>>12556276
And first launch altogether

[Anonymous No.12556288]

>>12556273
There was a French spysat last week.

[Anonymous No.12556289]

>>12556274
Looks like A/V desync. The calls for MECO and fairing deploy were both 'early' too.

[Anonymous No.12556294]

wish we had more tracking plane ASDS landing footage during the day. seems like all of these are at night nowadays

[Anonymous No.12556300]

Stuck the landing!

[Anonymous No.12556302]

bullseye.

[Anonymous No.12556303]

>>12556300
and it looks like it nailed the bullseye too.

[Anonymous No.12556305]

They've improved the timeline animation a bit

[Anonymous No.12556314]

With this landing accuracy they surely can catch SH by its gridfins

[Anonymous No.12556316]

>>12556314
indeed, it should be easier to control as well with more mass near the bottom

[Anonymous No.12556318]

>>12556300
They're so casual about it now, like it's no big deal. I can't wait for the day my kids take manned landings on Mars for granted the same way.

[Anonymous No.12556325]

next F9 launch is the 14th, Transporter-1, but Starship SN9 is hopping Sun/Mon/Tuesday possibly. Don't miss it!

[Anonymous No.12556328]

Anyone know what the music is? Doesn't sound like Test Shot Starfish.

[Anonymous No.12556330]

now THIS music is some solid wubwubwub

[Anonymous No.12556334]

>>12556328
my iPhone doesn't know what it is, but it is a TSS song iirc

[Anonymous No.12556336]

So how much does a spaceX launch cost compared to a conventional rocket?

[Anonymous No.12556339]

>>12556336
Pricing is around 20-30 million for SpaceX launches for basic payloads for F9

[Anonymous No.12556343]

>>12556336
internally it's like 25 mill cost to build+launch. A re-used core cuts the marginal internal launch cost to a substantial fraction of that; still have to build a stage 2 every time tho

>>12556339
isn't it ~60?

[Anonymous No.12556351]

>>12556343
Cost vs price

It costs SpaceX ~30M to launch. They charge ~50-60M.

[Anonymous No.12556352]

>>12556343
I'm seeing $60m new, $50m reused on wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.12556357]

>>12556351
>>12556352
yeah like 50m to the customer, spacex eats up 30mil if they were all new launches but unknown $ for re-used. Fairings are 3 mil each too

[Anonymous No.12556363]

>>12556352
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/elon-musk-spacex-falcon-9-rocket-over-a-million-dollars-less-to-insure.html

>[The rocket] costs $28 million to launch it, that’s with everything,” Couluris said, adding that reusing the rockets is what is “bringing the price down.”

[Anonymous No.12556366]

>no camera or even confirmation
fucking waste of my time

[Anonymous No.12556376]

>>12556366
why is there no feed?

[Anonymous No.12556377]

That inclination change tho

[Anonymous No.12556381]

>>12556376
Guy on the stream said the Central Africa tracking station is down.

[Anonymous No.12556383]

>>12556376
ded dish in Africa

related. not a bad movie desu

[Anonymous No.12556386]

uhhhh did it not restart?

>>12556381
ah, nevermind

[Anonymous No.12556390]

>>12556376
Tracking station in Africa is down

>>12556377
It's a change of altitude. Interestingly the map isn't showing it follow that line. Probably not a cause for concern.

[Anonymous No.12556392]

>>12556390
it'll probably jump up once the next tracking station comes into range

[Anonymous No.12556393]

>>12556390
the animation must be actual data then, neat. not a pre-made thing like the tracking thingy in the old Gemini control room

[Anonymous No.12556395]

>>12556392
yep, just did exactly that

[Anonymous No.12556396]

>>12556383
a hidden gem, especially for Apollo nuts and analog electrical engineers

[Anonymous No.12556397]

>>12556395
looks pretty funny

>>12556393
yeah, good to know

[Anonymous No.12556399]

who else picrelated here?

[Anonymous No.12556400]

Given the ground track, it looks like there might've actually been a small inclination change.

[Anonymous No.12556405]

>>12556399
i wonder where they get their music

[Anonymous No.12556406]

DEPLOY'D

>>12556405
test shot starfish

[Anonymous No.12556407]

elon wins again

[Anonymous No.12556408]

Turksat deployed, Armenia BTFO.

[Anonymous No.12556410]

>>12556357
>Payload reduction due to reusability of booster & fairing is <40% for F9 & recovery & refurb is <10%, so you’re roughly even with 2 flights, definitely ahead with 3
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1295883862380294144

[Anonymous No.12556414]

>>12556410
and tory thinks the break even point is 10; but he's accounting for the R&D needed beforehand as well I think. Musk said reusability cost like a billion dollars total. Still, doesn't matter a whit in the long run with colonizing mars. gotta re use either way

[Anonymous No.12556416]

>>12556406
Doing a quick skim of their Soundcloud, I can't find the tracks that are playing.

[Anonymous No.12556418]

>>12556416
They're all up on youtube.

[Anonymous No.12556423]

>>12556406
Fair well, RoachSat.

[Anonymous No.12556424]

>>12556416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU0Vnmhgm2E
I know this is one of them they just played

[Anonymous No.12556429]

Did they get the fairing halves?

[Anonymous No.12556438]

Underrated shot right here

[Anonymous No.12556443]

does anyone know how spacex got the wet/dry fraction of the Falcon 9 so ridiculous? Seems superior to pretty much everything else.

[Anonymous No.12556455]

>>12556443
aluminum-lithium alloys and the fucking great m1d

[Anonymous No.12556460]

>>12556443
this >>12556455 and subcooled propellants

[Anonymous No.12556462]

>>12556424
Another one seems to be a remix of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7T6KTXwQR8

[Anonymous No.12556463]

>>12556438
looks really cool

[Anonymous No.12556467]

>>12556438
amazing how much light it puts out

>>12556455
isn't that the same thing most rockets use? M1D?

[Anonymous No.12556474]

>>12556467
>isn't that the same thing most rockets use? M1D?
No. The Falcon 9 is the only rocket that uses that engine

[Anonymous No.12556476]

>>12556474
oh god sorry I'm an idiot. It took me a while to get that M1D = merlin. I meant aluminum-lithium. Isn't that fairly common in rocketry?

[Anonymous No.12556512]

>>12556476
>Isn't that fairly common in rocketry?
Yes. They don't even isogrid-mill it like ULA does. They just have the best thrust to weight ratio in the history of the world for the Merlin 1D engine so the Falcon's dry mass can be really low.

[Anonymous No.12556523]

>>12556438
Kino, very cool

[Anonymous No.12556534]

>>12556438
if someone from the 1800s saw that they would think they witnessed a miracle

[Anonymous No.12556546]

>>12556512
>They don't even isogrid-mill it like ULA does
wow, that makes the low dry weight percentage even more impressive

>They just have the best thrust to weight ratio in the history of the world
ah, I bet that's a lot of it right there. Oldspace engines don't compare at all in that area

[Anonymous No.12556551]

>>12556546
Right now ULA's booster engines are all SRBs (lol), RS-68s (FIRST STAGE HYDROLOGS :DDDDD), or ancient Soviet designed RD-180s. I'm not super surprised a modern design can beat those on TWR. The real shocker is that a teeny little open cycle gas generator kerolox engine is doing it, or that it still beats the BE-4.

[Anonymous No.12556564]

>>12556443
Entire range of design choices all through the vehicle also kerolox without subcooling is great but with copv submerged with deep cryo lox common bulkheads and semi pressure stabilized lox tanks you reach stupidly high efficiency levels another one is that most merlins have low thrust structure mass due to being on edges of the tank.

[Anonymous No.12556582]

>>12556551
>or that it still beats the BE-4.
yeah its specs look somewhat embarrassing considering its size. But Bruno says that it's going better than expected so perhaps it ok

>>12556564
>common bulkheads
oh cool. Didn't know F9 used those

>low thrust structure mass due to being on edges of the tank.
that's clever way to do it. Same with the submerged copv.

[Anonymous No.12556588]

>>12556423
You got TVRK’d

[Anonymous No.12556656]

>>12556564
>common bulkheads
Nork/Iran tier