/sfg/ Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.12550960]

previous >>12547158

[Anonymous No.12551045]

Where can I find a list of solar system objects sorted by solar perihelion? Most lists separate comets from asteroids from minor planets etc arbitrarily.

[Anonymous No.12551046]

reminder that you were lied to by boeing, lockheed, nasa, jpl etc about the difficulty and cost of space travel for decades and you believed it because the alternative was to accept that you were being fucked raw by egghead retards

[Anonymous No.12551054]

Atlas V is cute!

[Anonymous No.12551067]

What software should be used for designing/simulating rockets?

[Anonymous No.12551070]

>>12551054
Atlas V is the most interesting visual design in that image. It's the only one with a distinct image.

>>12551067
KSP obviously

[Anonymous No.12551108]

>>12551045
Can't you just merge them?

[Anonymous No.12551135]

>>12551070
Saturn V and Ariane 5 are also distinctive.

[Anonymous No.12551138]

>>12551067
OpenRocket

[Anonymous No.12551139]

>>12551046
Correct. Also because scientists saw space as an easy paycheck.

[Anonymous No.12551149]

>>12551046
Also by the Air Force.
>space is hard guys
>*inserts single orbital pass satellite retrieval ability and large hypersonic cross range into shuttle requirements*
>so hard
>*leads directly to Challenger incident*
>you just don't understand
>*abandons Shuttle entirely after advances in electronics make its military role obsolete, leaving NASA trapped in LEO for another 40 years*
>it isn't that easy in rocketry
>*buys another 20 years worth of hypergolic+solid Titans*

[Anonymous No.12551151]

>>12551046
I have known I have been getting fucked for decades, I just didn't realize how badly by oldspace.

>>12551067
RockSim is great for hobby sizes.

[Anonymous No.12551157]

>>12551135
Saturn V just looks like generic weeb design to me, other than some superficial homage to the Saturn V.

Ariane V is nice but still just a generic french girl with boosters strapped to her legs. Definitely better than some of the designs on there.

On a second viewing I like the Long March actually, it's a nice design too.

None of them are outright bad, but they just have that generic anime girl quality to them I dislike.

[Anonymous No.12551176]

>>12551054
Starship-sama when?

[Anonymous No.12551178]

>>12551176
Starship would be the massive tomboy who grew up as a fan of Saturn V and wants to break all her records.

[Anonymous No.12551192]

>>12551157
>Saturn V just looks like generic weeb design to me, other than some superficial homage to the Saturn V.
Anon believe it or not Saturn V influence on Saturn V was more than superficial

[Anonymous No.12551199]

>>12551178
>ywn have a competitive tomboy rocket waifu
why live

[Anonymous No.12551201]

>>12550960
looks to me they are skipping sn13 and 14

[Anonymous No.12551203]

Chances of a static fire happening today?

[Anonymous No.12551237]

>>12551157
wow, nice opinion on a couple of professional tier drawing made in the free time of someone.

Im sure that you can't do the equivalent of that result even if you pull all of your knowledge and capacity into something

[Anonymous No.12551240]

>>12550960
so basicall we're really close to having 3 operational starships?

if sn9 works well will they make it fly again or deconstruct it?

[Anonymous No.12551245]

>>12551237
>You shouldn't critique or give your opinion on something if you can't do better

[Anonymous No.12551250]

>>12551240
>so basicall we're really close to having 3 operational starships?
Only SN9 has raptors. Nobody knows when other raptors will arrive for the new ships.

[Anonymous No.12551260]

[Anonymous No.12551280]

Who's gonna lead the senate appropriations committee now that shelbys gone? Will the new boss be just as bad as the old boss?

[Anonymous No.12551324]

>>12551280
No idea but looking at Wikipedia (1) suggests either Mitch McConnell (2) or Patrick Leahy (3). Elaine Chao is McConnell's wife and she's been serving on the National Space Council.

(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Committee_on_Appropriations
(2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_McConnell
(3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Leahy

[Anonymous No.12551329]

>>12551324
Any info on how these two actually voted when it came to space issues?

[Anonymous No.12551334]

>>12551329
I don't know. I just hear McConnell is more corrupt than usual. Berger says that whoever takes Shelby's spot, SLS will become slightly less problematic https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1346649119041990661 so maybe it doesn't matter who gets picked, only that someone other than Shelby is running the show?

[Anonymous No.12551338]

>>12551280
Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)

[Anonymous No.12551344]

>They have to move the crane first before any testing can be done.
See you at 5pm.

[Anonymous No.12551392]

>>12550960
I like how Starship development requires a chart to keep track while SLS development is so slow you could practically forget about it until something simple fails again

[Anonymous No.12551422]

>>12550960
hey nice pic, who is making these?

[Anonymous No.12551427]

>>12551392
kek

[Anonymous No.12551430]

>>12551138
seems a cool software... gonna play with it one day if I have some spare time

[Anonymous No.12551434]

When the hell is the next launch and/or test

I need some space to watch

[Anonymous No.12551437]

>>12551434
Roachsat on Friday, maybe static fire tomorrow

[Anonymous No.12551438]

>>12551434
snine static fire today, launch on friday. Download the "next spaceflight" app if you want notifications and shit

[Anonymous No.12551439]

>>12551434
probable 8-10th

[Anonymous No.12551449]

>>12551054
This is so cringy and gay, just like anyone who likes it.

[Anonymous No.12551454]

>>12551392
You can keep up with current SLS development with physical books bought every few years.
Keeping up with Starship development requires you to check twitter every day.

[Anonymous No.12551460]

>>12551449
go back

[Anonymous No.12551465]

Subcooled Prop/N2O fuel blend first stage
simpler engine design with minimal risk of explosions
We can make our own rockets for cheap, Anons

[Anonymous No.12551478]

>>12551465
Crew Dreamchaser is unironically using that design pattern for its onboard engines.
>113kN per engine

[Anonymous No.12551486]

>>12551054
Why is New Shepard's arm missing?

[Anonymous No.12551495]

is there a website out there that collects all the news for starship in one spot?

[Anonymous No.12551498]

>>12551460
>if you no likey my 2d babes ur n reddit0r!

[Anonymous No.12551521]

>>12551495
NSF forums is where all the photographers and infographic people post their work

[Anonymous No.12551532]

>>12551478
are they, though? Wikipedia says it but they fail to give a source. SNC's own press releases just mention all the fuels they're messing around with, including prop/n2o. I've not seen a direct statement that that fuel mixture is what Dream Chaser is using.

[Anonymous No.12551535]

>>12551498
Anime weebsite.

[Anonymous No.12551537]

>>12551498

[Anonymous No.12551539]

>>12551498
Yes

[Anonymous No.12551541]

>>12551498
yes

[Anonymous No.12551542]

>they're going to set cygnus ablaze. Damn, wish they were video-taping it

[Anonymous No.12551546]

static fire when

[Anonymous No.12551547]

>>12551495
labpadre sites or NSF or estronaut or scott manley in a minor way

[Anonymous No.12551548]

>>12551542
Why is cygnus the best looking spacecraft flying right now?

[Anonymous No.12551557]

>>12551548
It's got circular solar panels and looks like a shipping container. It's peak industrial-space kino. Everything else looks like a capsule.

[Anonymous No.12551559]

>>12551498
yes
also the cute aggression filter

[Anonymous No.12551560]

>>12551498
yes

[Anonymous No.12551583]

>>12551559
I always wondered what was going on with those violent baby monkey youtube comments, now I know.

[Anonymous No.12551585]

I think this is right. The tiles on SN9 are smaller.

[Anonymous No.12551593]

Road closed.

[Anonymous No.12551594]

>>12551585
Any reason that they're using smaller tiles?

[Anonymous No.12551599]

[Anonymous No.12551602]

>>12551594
the bigger the tile, the less of them they need to put on there
they thought they could get away with a bigger tile
no idea why they switched, it's probably some bullshit

[Anonymous No.12551606]

>>12551594
Easier to follow the craft's contours and also cheaper to replace since smaller segments can get damaged individually

[Anonymous No.12551608]

>>12551594
Might be an economies of scale thing especially for the tiles that arent a simple curved or flat hexagon (nosecone and flaperon joint tiles).

Could also be that if a tile breaks free there's less area exposed to the raw plasma stream.

[Anonymous No.12551612]

>>12551594
No. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.12551626]

THE MIC ISN'T WORKING REEEE

[Anonymous No.12551635]

>>12551539
rocket booba

[Anonymous No.12551636]

>>12551594
if one fails, lesser damage? more redundancy? more easy to follow the cylinder's shape?

[Anonymous No.12551639]

>Some based retard triggered the animefags and now they won't stop spamming it yet again.
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.12551641]

>>12551585
god they really have to be careful with that, the tiles is one of the things that made the space shuttle execution system what it was.

Ideally they would be all identical and mass produce them at a retarded pace, also they should be stupidly easy to produce.

Like, they should keep retarded amounts of them in storage warehouses near the launch pad and in orbit.

It shuold be as easy as "hey joe, tiles X-3 and K-17 need replacing" "on it"

[Anonymous No.12551642]

>>12551594
maybe they want shorter straight lines

[Anonymous No.12551649]

>>12551642
also the hexagon is one of the shapes that can build a continuous plane, like squares and a few others.

[Anonymous No.12551651]

>>12551639
Cirno is not an anime

[Anonymous No.12551653]

>>12551641
fortunately the steel construction should make things more forgiving. Remember that we should have lost another Space Shuttle. Only reason we didn't is that they tile fell off over a bit of steel, which unlike aluminum could survive reentry.

[Anonymous No.12551655]

>>12551594
Wasn't there an issue with the larger tiles crumbling apart near the edges? Might be because smaller tiles overall don't have as much of themselves as far away from the three structural attachment points.
Also probably >>12551606 as well. Results in smaller gaps between tiles.

[Anonymous No.12551657]

>>12551653
lol, its almost literally a case of why dont you build the whole airplane out of the material the black box is made of

[Anonymous No.12551677]

>>12551641
wasn't the shuttle's bottom part made of graphite? steel should be better.

[Anonymous No.12551685]

>>12551677
It was reinforced carbon-carbon and silica heat tiles. A cool material but brittle as shit and they were fucking glued on

[Anonymous No.12551689]

>>12551685
>they were fucking glued on
I always asked myself how oldspace could allow such an engineering monstrosity

[Anonymous No.12551695]

>>12551657
The shuttle was extremely mass starved, in fact the orbiters were "trimmed down" versions of their original design because the SSME engines dropped a bit of ISP as their design matured into reality. They were stuck with specific engines, specific solids, and very strict requirements about the payload bay, the shuttle's capacity and wings.

The SS definitely should be able to survive a lost tile during reentry. Though if it does scrapping it is the next step.

[Anonymous No.12551697]

>>12551677
carbon-carbon graphite was on the leading edges that needed more protection. Far heavier than the fragile silica foam tiles. Frankly given the all-round fragility humans never should have been riding in the thing. I believe that starship uses a TUFROC derivative, which is sturdier. Dream Chaser also uses something similar.

[Anonymous No.12551702]

>>12551557
its like a portable ISS module I love it

cygnus station when

[Anonymous No.12551705]

>>12551689
>designed in the 70's around budget cuts and technical and time constraints
>not upgraded until the early 00's because lol congress gotta vote for it and no sane director will bother requesting the money for useless shit anyway #yolo
>upgrading it meant less jobs and more cost effective work using robotics and so = less money for contractors and less votes for politicians

[Anonymous No.12551709]

>>12551702
Thats what the lunar gateway will be

[Anonymous No.12551710]

>>12551585
>>12551594
Imagine how much easier replacing/setting tiles would be for like 90% of starships surface once they create a dedicated servicing structure that rolls up to starship (or starship rolls up to) and a circular attachment fits over it and applies/presses tiles all across the body, simplifying and maybe even automating servicing of tiles

compared to the way they did it with all their custom tiles applied manually piece by piece on the shuttle...

simply cylinder shape really helps smooth and simplify the process

[Anonymous No.12551712]

>>12551709
>will be
>Not "would have been"
Updating your expectations for you, don't mind me.

[Anonymous No.12551721]

Doing the math with starship, once it reaches maturity and costs ~$20/kg to leo, real estate in space will cost a similar amount to Manhattan.

Manhattan real estate costs around $15000 per square meter. Assuming launch cost is half of overall cost, which is reasonable given we could build the habitat out of cheap steel, then so long as each square meter of habitat launched masses less than 375kg it will cost less than manhattan real estate.

[Anonymous No.12551722]

>>12551702
I remember when we could have got Columbus space station

[Anonymous No.12551733]

>Axiom space station will only cost $2 billion
>that's 98% cheaper than the ISS
the ISS is finito

[Anonymous No.12551735]

it's going to peel like a banana

[Anonymous No.12551741]

>>12551733
Axiom station will have to exist first.

[Anonymous No.12551745]

>>12551237
>professional tier
lol artlet detected

[Anonymous No.12551746]

>>12551735
Is that a new change?

[Anonymous No.12551747]

>>12551280
Who cares about that, how are we going to replace the Shelby meme?

[Anonymous No.12551755]

>>12551746
people believe so

[Anonymous No.12551761]

>>12551735
good, reduce soldering perimeter, reduce possible fault points

[Anonymous No.12551767]

>>12551735
probably one of the changes for 15+

[Anonymous No.12551771]

>>12551721
You're comparing raw material costs to the recurring cost of maintenance and management. Starship will allow much cheaper stations but well outside the order of magnitude of cost of living on any populated part of the Earth.

[Anonymous No.12551778]

>the crane is still on the pad

[Anonymous No.12551782]

Wait so shelby is out?

Can we say the d world now?

I'm - I'm gonna say it!

DEPOT

[Anonymous No.12551785]

>>12551449
Same with any paedophilic Japanese cartoon shit

>>12551460
Seethe

>>12551498
This

>>12551535
>>12551537
>>12551539
>>12551541
>>12551559
>>12551560
Christ alive are there really this many degenerate paedophiles on this site?

[Anonymous No.12551786]

DEPOT

[Anonymous No.12551787]

>>12551782
The replacement has every potential to be significantly worse.

[Anonymous No.12551788]

>>12551542
>>12551702
looks like a dick and balls

[Anonymous No.12551792]

>>12551786
(USER WAS NATIONALIZED FOR THIS POST)

[Anonymous No.12551793]

DEPOT!

[Anonymous No.12551794]

>>12551785

[Anonymous No.12551796]

>>12551761
Welding, not soldering.

[Anonymous No.12551797]

>>12551054
Trust weebs to make spaceflight gay.

[Anonymous No.12551798]

DEPOOOOOT

[Anonymous No.12551799]

>>12551721
>there will be a future where living in space is cheaper than living in manhattan
Does this say more about the costs of living in space or manhattan?

[Anonymous No.12551802]

[Anonymous No.12551803]

[Anonymous No.12551804]

>>12551794
You're a seething degenerate paedophile aren't you?

[Anonymous No.12551806]

>>12551802
>propellant is stored in the balls

[Anonymous No.12551807]

>>12551804
You're a seething redditor soiboi aren't you?

[Anonymous No.12551808]

>>12551799
Living in space sounds way cooler than living in New York. At least you’re not gonna get mugged in space.

[Anonymous No.12551815]

>>12551796
yeah you're right, in my native language both have the same word

[Anonymous No.12551816]

>>12551807
Stop replying to a lazy shitposter, if you're going to give him a (you) at least make him work for it.

[Anonymous No.12551817]

>>12551807
You're a seething degenerate paedophile aren't you?

Also what's HILARIOUS is that you think degenerate paedophile cartoons make you a tough guy LMAO

How much of a shut-in are you? How disconnected with the real world could you possibly be?

[Anonymous No.12551818]

>>12551733
Axiom station isnt happening for the same reason dreamchaser isnt happening

[Anonymous No.12551819]

>>12551816
I'm not shitposting. I was replying to shitty posts by calling them shitty.

Seethe more.

[Anonymous No.12551820]

>>12551817
Holy based

[Anonymous No.12551821]

>>12551817
You're a seething reddiktor soiboi aren't you?

Also what's HILARIOUS is that you think redditor soiboi memes make you a tough guy LMAO

How much of a shut-in are you? How disconnected with the real world could you possibly be?

[Anonymous No.12551823]

>>12551808
>At least you’re not gonna get mugged in space.
>"allow us to introduce ourselves"

[Anonymous No.12551824]

>>12551817
>You're a seething degenerate paedophile aren't you?
>Also what's HILARIOUS is that you think degenerate paedophile cartoons make you a tough guy LMAO
>How much of a shut-in are you? How disconnected with the real world could you possibly be?

[Anonymous No.12551825]

>>12551799
why would it be cheaper?
hazard discount?

>>12551816
he's replying to himself

[Anonymous No.12551826]

>>12551808
*blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.12551827]

>>12551820
Based

>>12551821
I'm not the one pretending to be a tough guy by calling others "sóyboys"

It's literally hilarious that you think watching degenerate paedophilic cartoons makes you a tough guy

It makes you the complete opposite LMAO

[Anonymous No.12551831]

>>12551054
Say what you want but Orange looks great on rockets

[Anonymous No.12551832]

>>12551804
Two out of three, I ain't seething

[Anonymous No.12551834]

>>12551824
It's literally hilarious that you think watching degenerate paedophilic cartoons makes you a tough guy

It makes you the complete opposite LMAO

[Anonymous No.12551837]

>>12551825
That's even sadder. Report and ignore I guess.

[Anonymous No.12551838]

>>12551827
I'm not the one pretending to be a tough guy by calling others "degenerates"

It's literally hilarious that you think posting reddit soiboi memes makes you a tough guy

It makes you the complete opposite LMAO

[Anonymous No.12551841]

>>12551832
So you are a degenerate paedophile... man. The reason I come to interest boards (as opposed to places like /b/) is to get away from the degenerates...

[Anonymous No.12551848]

>>12551838
I'm not the one pretending to be a tough guy by calling others "sóyboys".

When I call someone a degenerate that doesn't mean I'm undermining their masculinity, you fucking idiot. I'm undermining their humanity. They're so degenerate that they're not even human.

You are a moron.

[Anonymous No.12551849]

what is the correct term to report these kinds of sad people who come here to get into arguments over whatever? i chose "off-topic" but maybe "trolling outside of b" is more apropiate

[Anonymous No.12551851]

>>12551825
>why would it be cheaper?
Unlimited expansion potential in space so adding more space apartments would be incredibly easy and cost effective with a $20/kg launch cost. Compare that to a city like Manhattan where every square inch of living space has been used up causing a housing shortage.

[Anonymous No.12551852]

>>12551841
>>12551848
anything spaceflight related to add or are you just gonna keep confirming you guys never satisfied a woman in your life?

[Anonymous No.12551853]

>>12551849
This user is underage, because it's self evident that the self-replying spammer is 14

[Anonymous No.12551854]

>>12551849
how do you know they are trolling and not just trying to keep the thread bumped?

[Anonymous No.12551855]

>>12551849
Spam? The dude is repeating the same thing over and over again

[Anonymous No.12551856]

>>12551849
Either one, 'spamming/flooding' works too when they're just posting the same thing on repeat.

[Anonymous No.12551858]

>>12551854
it's sci lol

[Anonymous No.12551861]

>>12551854
Pretending to be retarded is the same as just being retarded.

[Anonymous No.12551863]

How is your personal rocketry project coming along /sfg/?

[Anonymous No.12551864]

>>12551863
California is retarded and won’t let me launch rockets so it’s dead in the water

[Anonymous No.12551867]

>>12551837
It's febreeze

[Anonymous No.12551868]

>>12551863
i'd rather focus on coming up with a business solution that involves satellites or colonies

[Anonymous No.12551877]

>>12551864
Why is California so antifun?

[Anonymous No.12551891]

>>12551863
I have some ideas around drastically lowering the cost of small missiles. Hoping I graduate in time for venture capital to still have interest in aerospace and defense.

[Anonymous No.12551899]

>>12551891
Is it literally paper rockets?

[Anonymous No.12551900]

>>12551722
That's basically just Dream Chaser with it's new disposable pod docked to a Cygnus, I don't see why that couldn't fly tomorrow

[Anonymous No.12551903]

>>12551849
>>12551853
>>12551854
>>12551855
>>12551856
>>12551861
I never started this argument you seething degenerates. I just replied to an argument that was already there.

[Anonymous No.12551906]

>>12551852
>>12551903

[Anonymous No.12551908]

>>12551852
And by the way, yes I do think spaceflight should be the subject of posts, but I was just responding to an argument that was already there.

If that anon hadn't posted degenerate Japanese paedophilia in the first place (which was only tangentially related to spaceflight) then none of this discussion would have happened.

[Anonymous No.12551911]

Anime.

[Anonymous No.12551912]

>>12551903
all me btw

[Anonymous No.12551921]

[Anonymous No.12551924]

>>12551911
Planetes isn't anime, it's kino.

[Anonymous No.12551925]

>>12551863

[Anonymous No.12551931]

>[Deleted] x100
shut the fuck up and talk about BIG Starship

[Anonymous No.12551932]

>>12551877
communists

[Anonymous No.12551933]

>>12551911
Falcon 9 Block V should be a mulatto girl. That’s just my opinion.

[Anonymous No.12551935]

Spaceflight toys. What'd you have as a kid? What do you have now? What would you like?
I'd ask /toy/ but those dorks don't know space.

[Anonymous No.12551943]

>>12551931
These spacecraft look huge but in reality are tiny compared to ships that sail the ocean. big spacecraft when?

[Anonymous No.12551944]

>>12551931
This thing could transport so many confused cows to Mars.

[Anonymous No.12551949]

>>12551943
One day we’ll realize that dedicated interplanetary vehicles are needed, and the era of true spaceships will begin

[Anonymous No.12551950]

>>12551931
Will Big Starship ever happen?

[Anonymous No.12551952]

>>12551911
>>12551933
Literal degenerate paedophiles. What the fuck is wrong with your brains I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.12551954]

>>12551911
cute
>>12551935
my family has a mercury capsule themed Christmas ornament that plays John Glenn quotes when it's turned on or you push a button on it
oh that view is tremendous

[Anonymous No.12551956]

>>12551933
It's literally a white rocket.

[Anonymous No.12551957]

>>12551911
>>12551933
Source

>https://mobile.twitter.com/pj_rocket_girls?lang=en

[Anonymous No.12551959]

mods = gods

when is cow in space

[Anonymous No.12551960]

>>12551943

Probably going to be ships that are not earthbound. Ie. they are built for space only instead of actually launching from here. In fact once space travel becomes cheaper I have the impression that might be the better and more comfortable way to go to Mars instead of cramming everything inside an SS.

[Anonymous No.12551964]

>>12551935
I had a model rocket of SpaceShipOne as a kid. Loved it until it got stuck in a tall tree. I don't have any specific spaceflight toys right now, but I'm making my own rocket motor

[Anonymous No.12551965]

>>12551957
this is extremely based

[Anonymous No.12551967]

Thank you mods.

[Anonymous No.12551968]

>>12551956
Falcon 9 started off as white but Block V has a black Inter stage, raceway, octaweb, landing legs.

[Anonymous No.12551970]

>>12551960
incorrect, orbit to orbit transportation only makes sense when you're going between two airless bodies, and that only happens out in the asteroid belt

[Anonymous No.12551972]

>>12551931
WHY WOULD IT BE LONGER!

[Anonymous No.12551978]

okay, so what if we take cow fetuses, and freeze them for the voyage to Mars, and then raise them in incubators, and allow the cows to grow in 0.3g so they don't have a heart attack being transported to Mars

[Anonymous No.12551977]

>>12551970

Why?

[Anonymous No.12551979]

>>12551972
So it doesn’t just look like a chode

[Anonymous No.12551980]

>>12551972
better packing efficiency for the engines

[Anonymous No.12551981]

>>12551970
>and that only happens out in the asteroid belt
or with multiple space stations in LEO, or with moon colonies.

[Anonymous No.12551994]

>>12551978
Just lobotomize the cows and feed them by tube for the trip.

[Anonymous No.12552004]

>>12551977
aerobraking is just that good, it really is
>>12551981
eh, lunar surface to orbiting stations, but that's not orbit-orbit transportation
I guess if go full Mobile Suit Gundam and pack out the lagrange points it starts making sense in cislunar space

[Anonymous No.12552005]

>>12551924
What the hell are you s... you are on something, keep on.

[Anonymous No.12552007]

>>12551972
800 bar super Raptors

[Anonymous No.12552009]

>>12551959
>>12551967
If mods were gods they'd ban every degenerate Japanese paedophilia poster on this board.

It's not science, it's not maths, it's not spaceflight.

[Anonymous No.12552010]

>>12551981
massive space cargo ships docking with orbital space stations that have fleets of starships continually going between the station and the planet surface ferrying the cargo

[Anonymous No.12552013]

>>12552009
>anime
HEEBIE JEEBIES

[Anonymous No.12552015]

>>12552009
anime site dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.12552019]

>>12552015
4chan hasn't been an anime website for years.
t. someone who enjoys anime.

[Anonymous No.12552023]

Why is the ESA so fucking worthless?

[Anonymous No.12552027]

>>12551911
I too want to wife moonar 12 year olds like you wouldnt believe

[Anonymous No.12552028]

the only reason I can think of to pack out the EM lagrange points is that you want an excuse to transport large quantities of material to high energy but stable orbits where you can begin your orbital bombardment campaign

[Anonymous No.12552033]

>>12552023
because most academics that are allowed to participate in the project are midwits

[Anonymous No.12552034]

>>12552023
It's a bureaucratic jobs program spread between 22 countries

[Anonymous No.12552035]

>>12552023
its goal has never been to be a useful or efficient space program, it's about creating highly skilled technical jobs and opening lines of trade and communication that wouldn't have otherwise been there

[Anonymous No.12552036]

Petition to change the general name to "boys and their toys" general

[Anonymous No.12552038]

>>12552023
They’re European.

[Anonymous No.12552040]

>EXPULSION BLADDERS FOR CRYOGENIC LIQUIDS, D. H. Pope, Beech Aircraft Corporation Boulder, Colorado

is it time for subcooled propalox common tank with a flexible membrane separating them?

[Anonymous No.12552045]

>>12552023
Apart from the GSO commercial market, they only exist so that Europe can claim fame to having a space program

[Anonymous No.12552047]

>>12552036
Timothy Dodd has a big toy

[Anonymous No.12552055]

>>12551240
It will RUD

[Anonymous No.12552065]

>>12551710
yeah they're clearly going to automate the process. Modern optics AI will help too. They could maybe even automate looking for damage and replacing. If the entire system is computerized then it will take very little time at all.

[Anonymous No.12552069]

>>12551746
speculative based on the new steel pieces in the picture

>>12551778
it's just a little martyte shower, bro

[Anonymous No.12552070]

Which one are you /sfg/?

[Anonymous No.12552072]

>>12552047
>literally just using a Shanghai spinner off ebay as a turbopump
based?

[Anonymous No.12552081]

>>12552070
Outlaw sounds comfy

[Anonymous No.12552083]

>>12552070
I want to be lib right but I'd end up lib center

[Anonymous No.12552091]

>>12551935
I think I had that exact set. Crazy to think how long ago that was.

[Anonymous No.12552105]

>>12551831
I wanna see someone Atlas-Chan or some other oldspace girl being stepped on by fucking Starship like in this poorly made GIF.

[Anonymous No.12552110]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1346840441254260739
>Peter Beck: "If Rocket Lab ever builds a new vehicle, it will fundamentally be reusable from day one. I’m really surprised when I see new vehicles in development now that aren’t reusable."
yeah I'm thinking based

[Anonymous No.12552112]

>>12552105
naughty boy

[Anonymous No.12552114]

>>12551911
Anime SN9 getting a new canard
>>12551933
SLS would be a critically obese she-boon or something equally useless.

[Anonymous No.12552122]

>>12551899
No, but cheaper materials is part of it. It’s probably just a pipe dream, but if I can’t find a decent offer at a defense contractor, I’m confident that I can talk my way into getting enough investment to give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.12552130]

>>12552028
>colony straight up spits entry bombs made of shit and other wastes
>literally causes a shitstorm when landing on israel

[Anonymous No.12552136]

>>12552091
Me too. I had completely forgotten about those things.

[Anonymous No.12552138]

>>12552110
>if
That's surprising. Makes me think they're just giving up on launch if SpaceX makes Starship cheap enough.

[Anonymous No.12552140]

>JWST on the 14th of September, 2021

[Anonymous No.12552141]

>>12552110
Shit like this is why they’re gonna survive the popping of the small launcher bubble.

[Anonymous No.12552144]

>>12552112
Nah, my ideas for humanized starships are just COOLER than what others think.

[Anonymous No.12552146]

>>12552114
SLS is Orange though. Falcon 9 Block V is mixed race compared to her earlier sisters

Starship is a 6’6 Amazon volleyball player with pale skin and bleach silver hair

[Anonymous No.12552149]

What are the chances Elon's got a billet lined up for Bridenstine come January 21?

[Anonymous No.12552150]

>>12552110
So does RocketLab enter the orbital tug business forever?

[Anonymous No.12552154]

>>12552149
eh, I'm not sure how it benefits Elon to do that

[Anonymous No.12552155]

>>12552146
>Starship is a 6’6 Amazon [headcanon]
Enter META CHADSHIP
But for real though, wouldn't it make sense for the humanized starship to have silver skin and be more like a terminator or something?

[Anonymous No.12552159]

>>12552146
Put her in an orange unitard, then.

[Anonymous No.12552162]

Less than 3 hours until static fire. Crane looks like it's moved a little, but pad is still not clear.

[Anonymous No.12552164]

How did we got from this

[Anonymous No.12552166]

>>12552164
to this

[Anonymous No.12552170]

>>12552166
Sadly, we never did.

[Anonymous No.12552171]

>>12551900
>I don't see why that couldn't fly tomorrow
>couldn’t fly tomorrow
>tomorrow
Oldspace doesn’t make moves unless it involves billions of dollars and at least two decades of R&D

[Anonymous No.12552173]

>>12552166
to this

[Anonymous No.12552176]

test

[Anonymous No.12552179]

>>12552154
SpaceX could probably use someone with political connections to improve their lobbying game. They’re already doing better on that front than many people realize, but having a former congressman and NASA administrator representing them gives SpaceX a lot more political capital to work with.

[Anonymous No.12552183]

>>12552170
Well, it launched
Once

[Anonymous No.12552184]

>>12552171
It's literally an off the shelf Cygnus docked to an off the shelf Dreamchaser, how hard could it possibly be?

[Anonymous No.12552186]

My ancestors are smiling at me SLS. Can yours say the same?

[Anonymous No.12552185]

>>12552140
Is this thing ever gonna launch?

[Anonymous No.12552187]

>>12552176
deez nuts

[Anonymous No.12552188]

>>12552173
to this

[Anonymous No.12552191]

>>12552186
>SLS's ancestors: Shuttle, Shuttle C, various Shuttle derived paper rockets
>Starship's ancestors: Falcon, von Braun's ferry rocket

[Anonymous No.12552192]

>>12551054
I want those Space X tights. Send this to Elon.

[Anonymous No.12552196]

>>12552192
yeah, cute programming socks

[Anonymous No.12552204]

>>12552184
>how hard could it possibly be?

[Anonymous No.12552205]

So with the FAA knocking Momentus off the Transporter 1 flight, will they go straight to the VR-2 rideshare with SARah-1 in Feburary? Or will that be pushed back? I hope we don't have to wait until June to see Vigoride fly.

[Anonymous No.12552208]

>>12552196
Aerospace engineering socks

[Anonymous No.12552219]

>>12552191
>Shuttle C
That's what we should've gotten instead of SLS

[Anonymous No.12552223]

could a dreamchaser fit inside a starship cargo bay? Its wings fold in right?

[Anonymous No.12552225]

>>12552223
yeah
it might just completely fit, unmolosted

[Anonymous No.12552226]

600 people killed in DC so far; jet fighters inbound
American spaceflight is over

[Anonymous No.12552228]

>>12552223
Probably but that seems exceedingly pointless

[Anonymous No.12552236]

>>12552192
>>12552196
>>12552208
>Why are you doing this to me? I just wanted to wear tights and shove large objects up my ass while pretending I'm a gir-
*cycles airlock*

[Anonymous No.12552244]

>>12552192
>>12552196
>>12552208
I sincerely hope that you're women

[Anonymous No.12552245]

>>12552023
They're not. Hermes was a stupid idea.

[Anonymous No.12552248]

>>12552236
>>12552244
incorrect, I fuck women while wearing cute socks
I also post cute anime girls

[Anonymous No.12552252]

trannies will be ground up and turned into feedstock for the catgirl printer

[Anonymous No.12552258]

>>12552248
I'm impressed how you, a man, can make a things such as fucking a woman sound like the gayest thing possible, with just the addition of the words "cute socks"

[Anonymous No.12552260]

Are Starships male or female?

[Anonymous No.12552268]

>>12552258
I think that's your personal problem
>>12552260
futa

[Anonymous No.12552276]

>>12552260
ships are female
stands to reason starships continue the tradition

[Anonymous No.12552277]

>>12552023
Because the guy making that judgment have a superficial understanding of the vast and numerous variable that led to this.

Also the point is only to have access to space, making a profit of it is left to private company who didn't have any better chance at it until a very recent stray of luck.

[Anonymous No.12552278]

>>12552268
starship futa edit when

[Anonymous No.12552283]

>>12552155
So basically this but tall?

[Anonymous No.12552292]

>>12552278
youre tempting dark forces

[Anonymous No.12552301]

>>12552219
>ywn see shuttle tanks get converted into wet workshops
>ywn see a polar shuttle launch from vandy
>ywn see shuttle-c become operational
>instead we got trapped with the worst possible shuttle-derived HLV

[Anonymous No.12552302]

https://youtu.be/Z72Au8Px7mM
this shot is beautiful, let me fire up mpv and take a screenshot

[Anonymous No.12552303]

Hermes a cute.

[Anonymous No.12552308]

>>12552302
Good taste, anon. Those bands of clouds earlier were really kino too.

[Anonymous No.12552323]

>>12552047
what type of engine is this?

[Anonymous No.12552326]

>>12552323
firefly reaver

[Anonymous No.12552328]

>>12552323
Söylox

[Anonymous No.12552329]

>>12552155
probably would just depend on your preference

[Anonymous No.12552334]

You'll never see SpaceX employees (elon slaves) this happy. Try building something reliable instead of getting excited that your half a rocket can freefall and face plant. amateurs

[Anonymous No.12552336]

>>12552329
where are meta-Starship's tits

[Anonymous No.12552339]

>>12552141
that and their huge head-start. Really helps to be first

>>12552326
thanks, looks like it's a keralox tap-off cycle.

Is this type of engine more or less interchangeable with gas-generator engines? Not very familiar with the tap-off approach.

>>12552334
damn their buildings look like shit

>>12552302
wonder if they're going to try to static fire with the weather that bad. Looks like they're moving the crane instead?

[Anonymous No.12552344]

>>12552339
>more or less interchangeable with gas-generator?
it's totally different but also somehow exactly the same, yes

[Anonymous No.12552345]

>>12552334
Those are a lot of jobs

[Anonymous No.12552355]

>>12552336
They develop better in his GORUDEN transformation.

[Anonymous No.12552358]

>>12552248
Nice bro, I totally have lots of sex too with hawt women who definitely don't have penises. Before I have sex with all these hawt women I say "hey give me five minutes so I can put on my tights" and they go totally wild, dude.

[Anonymous No.12552368]

>>12552358
come here bro give me a bro fistbump

[Anonymous No.12552383]

nooooooooooo not the heckin haterino
not The Weight
https://youtu.be/FFqb1I-hiHE

[Anonymous No.12552385]

nooooooooooooooooo

but seriously, I wonder what the plan is for SN5 and SN6

[Anonymous No.12552389]

>>12552385
Boca Chica needs a giant blast furnace they can just throw scrapped Starship bits into and get clean, brand new rings back out

[Anonymous No.12552390]

>>12552385
recycling, probably

[Anonymous No.12552391]

>>12552191
also hoppy which is literally in the picture

[Anonymous No.12552392]

>>12552223
Cargo Dreamchaser can fit inside a Vulcan fairing. Crew Dreamchaser is designed to launch without one.

[Anonymous No.12552403]

>>12552383
>>12552385
Lunar Starship mockup?

[Anonymous No.12552406]

>>12552403
They don't want to put one of those in the air, it's better to have it on the ground where you can walk in

[Anonymous No.12552409]

>>12551931
>Big Starship carries a Space Shuttle orbiter as a mass simular for its maiden flight

[Anonymous No.12552411]

>>12552409
think of the JOBS just trying to get an orbiter to fly again

[Anonymous No.12552413]

>>12551968
>Falcon 9 is literally getting BLACKED

[Anonymous No.12552414]

>>12552260
Crewed starships are female, Cargo/tanker Starships are male.

[Anonymous No.12552417]

>>12552411
There isn't a retired orbiter owned by a private museum?

[Anonymous No.12552418]

>>12552414
futa

[Anonymous No.12552420]

>America falling apart
SpaceX you need to hurry the FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.12552422]

>>12551978
Just 3D print beef. Or grow it in vitro from stem cells in 10 foot tall stacks. Grow them in a maze pattern and let people wander around like a corn maze.

[Anonymous No.12552423]

>>12552409
Take Starhopper to orbit.

[Anonymous No.12552424]

>>12552414
You have it wrong. Starships outfitted with machine guns are female. Starships outfitted with cannons are male.

[Anonymous No.12552426]

>>12552424
there's absolutely no reason not to mount both

[Anonymous No.12552427]

>>12552424
What about the Starships outfitted with Tomahawk VLS cells?

[Anonymous No.12552428]

>>12552070
I want to be pegged by libleft's catgirl cybercock

[Anonymous No.12552431]

>>12552110
5 years after SpaceX landed a booster... if we build a new rocket (we aren’t) it’ll be reusable!
Show me your design then fucking retard, how do you make a shitty small sat launcher reusable

[Anonymous No.12552434]

>>12552268
>>12552260
Futa because they're girls but they fuck every other rocket

[Anonymous No.12552437]

>>12552334
Too buy working to take gay pictures like that.
That probably cost $10 million in lost wages

[Anonymous No.12552441]

>>12552420
Is it though?

[Anonymous No.12552444]

>>12552431
They've done more than any one else on the reusability front,

[Anonymous No.12552445]

So is there a static fire of SN9 today? Is that what's going on?

[Anonymous No.12552446]

>>12552441
Yes. This is the worst thing I've seen in this country since 9/11.

[Anonymous No.12552447]

>>12552420
>America falling apart
It'll be over by the end of the day with the only effect after the fact being the Democrats milking it for pity points. What Biden will decide on spaceflight will have a greater impact on the industry than this protest

[Anonymous No.12552452]

>>12551653
Based

[Anonymous No.12552459]

>Elect Obama
>8 years of booming economy
>Elect Trump
>Country falls apart
>Get mad at democrats

[Anonymous No.12552461]

>>12552424
based and early British tank doctrine pilled

but naturally, starships fitted with both are futa

[Anonymous No.12552464]

Mars independence when?

[Anonymous No.12552465]

>>12552447
>One of the 3 pillars of American democracy stormed by literal insurgents
>Wow the dems will use this for pity points
Actually fucking neck yourself faggot

[Anonymous No.12552466]

>>12552459
>8 years of booming economy
Underage?

[Anonymous No.12552467]

>>12552444
In what way ???

[Anonymous No.12552469]

>>12552447
Most likely. Still pretty fucking insane, though.

[Anonymous No.12552470]

>>12552459
>Elect Allende
>Country falls apart
>Elect Pinochet
>Booming economy
>Get mad at the CIA

[Anonymous No.12552472]

>>12552465
Burn and looting is ok according to you libs though

[Anonymous No.12552475]

>>12551972
Simply additional fairing volume, nothing more. Stretching the vehicle as a whole does not mean they also stretched the tanks.

[Anonymous No.12552477]

>>12552472
>If you don't support storming the capital building you support BLM rioters
FUCK. YOU. I've defending kyle Rittenhouse's right to self defense countless times, and I hate the rioters, but these people are WORSE. You can be against riots in all forms you fucking cretin.

[Anonymous No.12552480]

>>12552477
t. deebly goncerned guckservative

[Anonymous No.12552481]

>>12552477
Getting mad just validates the people you're replying to

[Anonymous No.12552482]

>>12552480
I fucking hate this country

[Anonymous No.12552483]

>>12552047
>gas generator exhaust could not be closer to annular nozzle dump manifold
smart
>carbon composite nozzle
why

[Anonymous No.12552484]

>>12552483
carbon composites, bro
they're the future, bro

[Anonymous No.12552486]

>>12552469
Indeed. I didn't see it coming. Fortunately spaceflight is well insulated against stuff like this due to how bipartisan it is, excluding Obama's confused direction

[Anonymous No.12552489]

>>12552446
Lmao I’m sure you support BLM though lol

[Anonymous No.12552491]

>>12552486
Apollo survived the worst period in American history since 1865. If anything, government officials look to space achievements as potentially unifying events.

[Anonymous No.12552492]

>>12552110
I legit have more faith that Rocket Lab will develop an economic reusable launch vehicle than I have in BO.

[Anonymous No.12552494]

>>12552489
No. I don't. I was laughing like a little kid when kyle was blowing those fucks away. That doesn't mean I need to support people destroying the fucking capital building. What is fucking wrong with you people, the world is not black and white.

[Anonymous No.12552496]

>>12552446
>>12552477
>>12552472
>>12552481
lmao republicans eating each other before Tr*mps term's even over
>>12552461
starshipettes when?

[Anonymous No.12552497]

>>12552467
They actually recovered a booster after splashing down, so they have recovery data and successfully proved reentry. Helicopter catch seems viable.

[Anonymous No.12552498]

>>12552155
>But for real though, wouldn't it make sense for the humanized starship to have silver skin and be more like a terminator or something?
They aren't humanized, they're anime girls. We're making rocket styled anime girls.
Stop chilling Meta-Lamer.

[Anonymous No.12552500]

>>12552383
The drummer from The Band is the guy who plays Ridley in "The Right Stuff"

[Anonymous No.12552501]

>>12552489
>"Hey man that zebra is white!"
>"No it's not."
>"Oh so you think it's black?"

[Anonymous No.12552503]

in rocket news, ooh, venting

[Anonymous No.12552507]

>>12552323
Gas generator cycle

[Anonymous No.12552509]

>>12552492
in retrospect reusability seems pretty important for smallsats. Smaller companies physically can't churn out rockets quickly. If you can reuse you can significantly increase your cadence.

[Anonymous No.12552511]

This is the real starship-tan and you can't change my mind

[Anonymous No.12552512]

>>12552498
I idolize shows like DBZ and early JJBA because they embrace the CHAD physique and encourage their audiences to be as alpha as they can, which will be needed for exploring the cosmos. Moeshitters (like you) on the other hand are just coomers. Or trannies, maybe jannies too.

[Anonymous No.12552513]

>>12552146
SLS is orange as a she-boon is covered in KFC spices.

[Anonymous No.12552519]

>>12552339
>Is this type of engine more or less interchangeable with gas-generator engines? Not very familiar with the tap-off approach.
No, they're completely different.
In combustion tap-off you take hot gasses directly from the main combustion chamber and use them to spin the turbine. With magic materials this can actually be the best cycle, unfortunately magic isn't real and this cycle sucks ass as a result, because you have to deal with shit like 'melting' and 'erosion'. If we had materials that could operate at >3000 celsius we could design rockets that had guts more like airbreathing jet engines, where the front of the pipe has fuel and oxidizer inlets, the liquids get spun to super high pressure, they flow into the main combustion chamber and burn completely, then flow out over a turbine and out through the nozzle. This shit would be amazing in terms of TWR and efficiency and thrust, but it can't exist. FFSC is the real world ideal, and it's a bit more complex and heavy, but still ideal with what can actually be built.
Gas generator works by splitting off a small amount of fuel and an even smaller amount of oxidizer to burn in a small, extremely fuel-rich combustion chamber. The hot-but-manageable gasses from this small chamber blow across a turbine and spin the pump impellers. This cycle is pretty simple and not that efficient and doesn't offer massive combustion chamber pressures BUT it's easy enough that you get a worthwhile engine if you don't design it stupid on purpose. If you're really smart like SpaceX you can build a kerolox gas generator that mogs most engines of any description, due to being relightable and extremely reliable and also have yuge TWR.

[Anonymous No.12552521]

>>12552511
>no dick
Fail.

[Anonymous No.12552526]

>>12552519
>don't design it stupid on purpose
could you please describe how one would go about doing it wrong on purpose as a joke

[Anonymous No.12552530]

lots of venting. Static fire soon.

https://youtu.be/j8VyADSAPhM
https://youtu.be/Ky5l9ZxsG9M
https://youtu.be/Z72Au8Px7mM

[Anonymous No.12552532]

>>12552521
You've got a dick, and you're fail anyway.

[Anonymous No.12552534]

[Anonymous No.12552540]

What does /sfg/ expect? Successful static fire, RUD from fall damage, wildcard (maybe hold-down bolt failure and liftoff)?

[Anonymous No.12552542]

>>12551925
Some things never change.

[Anonymous No.12552543]

>>12552540
Successful static fire of course since it passed the pressure test fine

[Anonymous No.12552547]

>>12552540
Raptor is more powerful than expected and it shifts our orbit and we go careening into the sun

[Anonymous No.12552552]

>>12551943
Once Lunar industry happens. The requirements for constructing satellite superstructures in orbit along with stations to fit said structures with complicated components from Earth will pave the way for massive interplanetary ships and stations to be constructed in orbit.

[Anonymous No.12552554]

>>12552459
>Elect Obama
>greatest financial crash since the 1930's
>massive online privacy scandals left and right
>asteroid redirect mission and SLS
truly, black president bad

[Anonymous No.12552557]

>>12552532
yeah but mine's humungous

[Anonymous No.12552558]

>>12552540
Worst case scenario is a hard shutdown, requiring them to replace one of the engines. Hopefully things go smoothly, though.

[Anonymous No.12552559]

>>12552540
Static fire, maybe slightly different flight profile, proper landing

[Anonymous No.12552561]

>>12552530
Question, what do you call the type of nasal sounding thing that Michael Baylor makes? I know its not lisp, so what is it?

[Anonymous No.12552564]

Dont you realize what just happened?????? THE SENATOR FROM ALABAMA NO LONGER CONTROLS NASA FUNDS

[Anonymous No.12552565]

>>12552512
I don't idolize anything, this isn't even about personal opinion. You're entering a cherry pie into a BBQ competition. You like DBZ? Make your own rocket-inspired DBZ characters. Don't be "that kid", anon.

[Anonymous No.12552568]

>>12552554
>asteroid redirect mission
That was only chosen to be different than previous mainline mission ideas and it was never going to happen, and everyone involved knew it

[Anonymous No.12552571]

>>12552564
Shelby had his problems, but he supported (at least some part) of the space industry. If that hippie piece of shit Leahy gets the seat, you'll wish Shelby was still in charge.

[Anonymous No.12552576]

we have the technology

[Anonymous No.12552578]

>>12552526
RS-68
>super complex for some inexplicable reason
>ABLATIVE nozzle, places hard limit on chamber pressure because they need a minimum burn time and greater pressure equals faster erosion rate
>fucking LH2 fuel, and to make it worse they have a million purge lines that piss the stuff out during startup and result in a massive fireball during every launch attempt
>Thrust to weight ratio is literally sub-50 lmaoooo
RS-68 was designed to be a cheaper big hydrolox engine in the wake of the RS-25, I'm fairly convinced that a lot of the design choices of RS-68 were made simply to make the engine worse on purpose in order to make RS-25 look good. If not, then they just failed that horribly at engine design. Either way it's indefensible.

[Anonymous No.12552579]

>>12552564
It's SENATE Launch System not Shelby Launch System.

[Anonymous No.12552581]

>>12552385
I hope they randomly shoot them in space just for teh lulz

[Anonymous No.12552596]

>>12552564
Sunk cost fallacy is here to stay.

[Anonymous No.12552598]

Tri-VENT

[Anonymous No.12552601]

>>12552571
Cope and seethe trumpian

[Anonymous No.12552603]

>>12552578
The RS-68 is such a funky engine.

[Anonymous No.12552604]

>>12552598
SIREN

[Anonymous No.12552605]

SNINEREN ACTIVATED

[Anonymous No.12552606]

SIREN
>SIREN
SIREN
>SIREN
SIREN
>SIREN

[Anonymous No.12552610]

>>12552561
no idea. I've heard that way of talking before. Interestingly, it always comes from highly intelligent autists who seem to have similar personalities. Very odd.

[Anonymous No.12552612]

>>12552571
What are Leahy's opinions of spaceflight? What issues did he vote on and how?

[Anonymous No.12552614]

>>12552564
Who's gonna be in charge of the senate appropriations committee now?
Will they be better or worse than shelby was?

[Anonymous No.12552618]

Just got here in time. Let's fucking go

[Anonymous No.12552620]

>>12552023
because the space shuttle is what happens when the decisions are spread out amongst a bunch of congressmen from 50 states in the most powerful country in the world and also the one thats most skilled with spaceflight.

ESA is what happens when the decisions are taken between a couple hundred different provinces from 22 economically weak country with almost no experience in spaceflight

you do the math

like. Picture this

who would design a better jacket, a group of 50 russians from siberia with money or a group of 500 poor people from the amazonian jungle?

[Anonymous No.12552622]

>>12552598

[Anonymous No.12552623]

>>12552614
Equally as bad. Anyone who runs for these types of offices are always sociopaths. Could they give us what we want? Possibly, assuming they see spacex as a way of filling their own pockets and SLS as nothing but a hinderance

[Anonymous No.12552624]

>>12552601
I don't like Trump, but you're delusional if you think Bernie Sanders' Senate partner is going to be good for space procurement.

[Anonymous No.12552626]

>>12552614
There's doomers in here, but it's a bit of a wild card. Whoever it probably wont be an SLS shill, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.12552627]

>>12552624
Why wouldn't he be? Historically socialists have been on the cutting edge of space flight

[Anonymous No.12552632]

uh oh is it supposed to be doing that

[Anonymous No.12552633]

https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1346821619965177863?s=21
>NASA tells me the agency is looking at “potentially extending the Crew-1 time on” ISS in order to ensure continued US presence. Dates still in flux, but If Crew-2 were to launch in April and Crew-1 to come home in May that would not leave much room in the schedule. 1/
>If there’s a launch delay that could make things real tight. As a result: “NASA is investigating several activities that would provide us with more margin for the handover,” NASA says, including extending Crew-1, which would be a real test for Crew Dragon. 2/

[Anonymous No.12552634]

>>12552624
NASA doesnt need money retard, there's a whole lot that can be cut. Orion and SLS for instance

[Anonymous No.12552636]

>>12552627
You might have a point, but historically Democrats haven't been supportive of spaceflight after Kennedy. Recent history most especially

[Anonymous No.12552637]

>>12552626
Democrats are even bigger SLS shills than Shelby is

[Anonymous No.12552639]

>>12552632
?

[Anonymous No.12552640]

>>12552627
>If SLS doesn't meet its launch deadline, it's the gulag for you!

[Anonymous No.12552642]

>>12552620
>decisions are taken between a couple hundred different provinces
Provinces don't tend to make divisions like those

[Anonymous No.12552643]

>>12552633
Why not just send up a replacement crew on Starliner?

[Anonymous No.12552644]

>>12552639
the liquid shooting out the side looks exactly like that time that it blew up, although I think I've seen it do that before intentionally

[Anonymous No.12552645]

>>12552637
Lmao no

[Anonymous No.12552646]

>>12552636
Yeah but this guy is on the socialist dissident wing of the dems, he's not gonna cave to the green wing of the party.
>>12552640
It works!

[Anonymous No.12552647]

>>12552627
And look at where they are now

[Anonymous No.12552650]

>>12552645
look up Kendra Horn

[Anonymous No.12552653]

*pomf*

[Anonymous No.12552654]

>>12552650
>Neolib dems
They're gonna get purged from the party soon enough

[Anonymous No.12552655]

BRAAAAP

[Anonymous No.12552656]

Happening

[Anonymous No.12552657]

The stream fucking lagged past the firing

[Anonymous No.12552658]

looked pretty clean

[Anonymous No.12552659]

>static fire
oh okay I guess it was supposed to do all that

[Anonymous No.12552660]

>short, but no honk
Not sure how to react.

[Anonymous No.12552661]

SHOOP DA WOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.12552662]

itsfuckingnothing.jpg

[Anonymous No.12552663]

IT DID IT YESSS

[Anonymous No.12552664]

>>12552650
You mean the cunt who lost her house seat? she's a nonfactor

[Anonymous No.12552665]

>>12552662
welcome to static fires

[Anonymous No.12552666]

>>12552660
it's actually venting this time at least

[Anonymous No.12552667]

That was kinda short. Is that supposed to be it?

[Anonymous No.12552669]

Was it supposed to be that short?

[Anonymous No.12552672]

>>12552642
Just like the us is made up of representatives from different states each country sends representatives divided by provinces both to houses of their congress and to the euro parliament(plus each public opinion budget executive power and science ministry) each of them wanting to get a piece of pork just like a us senator wants to. In hindsight it's a wonder they managed to done something at all

[Anonymous No.12552673]

IT FUCKING BLEW UP WHAT THE FUCK

[Anonymous No.12552675]

>>12552667
>>12552669
yes

[Anonymous No.12552677]

>rocket literally falls over and gets banged up
>still more flightworthy than a boeing product

[Anonymous No.12552679]

Looked like a preburner to me.

[Anonymous No.12552682]

>>12552665
It seemed even shorter than the ones on snate. That could just be because most of the snate firings resulted in cataclysm though

[Anonymous No.12552683]

>flight this weekend
It's becoming routine now.

[Anonymous No.12552684]

>>12552627
Yeah, national socialists.

[Anonymous No.12552685]

>>12552673
HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAH I THOUGHT YOU WERE KIDDING WHY THE FUCK DID IT BLOW??????

[Anonymous No.12552686]

>>12552679
it was definitely a static fire

[Anonymous No.12552687]

>>12552669
Some static fires have been short like this in the past, so idk if its good or not, but nothing too serious.

[Anonymous No.12552688]

>>12552643
Why not shoot them in the head, it will be quicker

[Anonymous No.12552689]

>>12552667
>>12552669
think they made it shorter after they blew up pad A. Less martyte fragments.

[Anonymous No.12552691]

>>12552679
no, those have both more and less fire than this did
that big cloud of dust backlit by fire was characteristic of a static fire

[Anonymous No.12552692]

>>12552627
That communist piece of shit wanted to tax Musk for 52 million just because tesla was successful during pandemic. Kys yourself nigger.

[Anonymous No.12552694]

I guess they must have damaged something internally and didn’t know it. Didn’t expect it to blow up like that. So what’s next, SN10?

[Anonymous No.12552693]

>>12552691
They've smoothed out the raptors considerably then.

[Anonymous No.12552695]

>>12552672
The ESA's not an EU organisation. It's intergovernmental, so in a sense it's less subject to democratic whims, but in another sense it's more subject to wheeling and dealing by governments.

[Anonymous No.12552697]

>>12552420
what's going on this time?

[Anonymous No.12552699]

>>12552692
Yeah, Leahy being near any kind of government procurement is a nightmare scenario. The fucking traitor leaked classified documents to Qaddafi back in the 80s.

[Anonymous No.12552701]

Bros, I think they're going for a 2nd static fire. They extended the window and it's still frosty and venting.

[Anonymous No.12552703]

>boeing shills itt trying to damage contril

[Anonymous No.12552706]

>>12552694
it hasn't exploded

[Anonymous No.12552707]

>>12552694
Elon told me they're skipping straight to SN11

[Anonymous No.12552708]

>>12552701
Have they ever done that before? I doubt they're gonna do it now.

[Anonymous No.12552709]

>>12552697
Team red got flustered and tried to storm the capital like a larp militia team, some bitch got shot in the head by a nervous cop. Idk it’s not really spaceflight related and we should focus our energy on escaping this decrepit rock

[Anonymous No.12552712]

Flight this friday

[Anonymous No.12552711]

>>12552701
I wonder if they'll do multiple static fire today, maybe for some different/new tests?

[Anonymous No.12552716]

>>12552701
no. the frost building up indicates detanking

[Anonymous No.12552718]

>>12552708
It has never been done before.

>>12552711
I think this test was a single engine test and now it's gonna be all 3. I think they wanna make sure they can toggle each engine so they don't hit the deck again.

[Anonymous No.12552719]

>>12552712
I really hope it works out.

[Anonymous No.12552720]

>>12552692
Oh no! Not 0.1% of musks total wealth! The monster!

[Anonymous No.12552723]

Musk is getting fat, he looks better skinny

[Anonymous No.12552725]

>>12552712
Fingers crossed. I really want it to happen Friday too.

[Anonymous No.12552726]

>>12552565
What? You're the one with the soft waifu shit, if anything it's more like bringing a pot roast to a bakery. But then again, you're no better, since we're actually in a rocket equivalent of a damned autistic train fetish meetup.

[Anonymous No.12552728]

>>12552694
Elon told me they're cancelling the program since MZ pulled funding. When asked for comment MZ said "me go pee pee in your coke"

[Anonymous No.12552729]

>>12552684
This

[Anonymous No.12552730]

>>12552723
If you think the average food portion in America is big, Texas portions are twice that size. For whatever reason they just pile on food. No plate comes without spilling over the edges.

[Anonymous No.12552734]

>>12552703
>i-it's boeing shills bros
are you gonna try little baby?

[Anonymous No.12552735]

>>12552720
It's not the government's money.

[Anonymous No.12552736]

>>12552720
Are you fucking retarded?
wealth != money in bank account

[Anonymous No.12552739]

>>12552734
Try what?

[Anonymous No.12552740]

>>12552720
>Take 52 million from someone who's singlehandedly saving spaceflight
>Give it to human leeches so they'll have more kids
My hatred is entirely justified.

[Anonymous No.12552741]

>>12552720
>Musk's total wealth
an irrelevant number, that's a significant chunk of the money that Elon has on hand
most of his net worth is in no way liquid

[Anonymous No.12552742]

>>12552736
uhhhhhhhh

[Anonymous No.12552744]

>>12552739
Oh I think you know ;)

[Anonymous No.12552747]

>>12552736
Commies aren't known for being intelligent.

[Anonymous No.12552749]

>>12552730
>Eat breakfast tacos at Taco Cabana
>Stop by Bucee’s before eating elevenses at Luby’s
>Finish it off with lunch at Goode Company BBQ with a desert from House of Pies
>TFW you’ve gained 22 pounds and it isn’t even dinner time yet

[Anonymous No.12552750]

>>12552742
he's right, you know

[Anonymous No.12552756]

>>12552742
the government would have to gain partial ownership of a private company and then sell it to actually tax his wealth

[Anonymous No.12552762]

>>12552730
American food is disgusting, and the portion size even more so. Every time I'm over there the food fucks me up more than any shady Southeast Asian street food stall ever has

[Anonymous No.12552764]

>>12552742
>doesn't know the difference between liquid assets and non-liquid assets
>thinks every cent made by a company goes to the majority shareholder/ceo
Free Starship rides for commies fucking when?

[Anonymous No.12552766]

>>12552742
>confront socialist with basic fact
>"uhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Yeah, you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.12552769]

>>12552756
incorrect, they could simply demand money and insist that Elon sell part of his company to provide it

[Anonymous No.12552775]

>>12552764
Depressurized cargo version?

[Anonymous No.12552776]

>>12552742
Net worth consists partially of non-liquid assets, and in the case of billionaires, it’s typically almost entirely non-liquid. A large part of Elon’s net worth is from his Tesla shares, which have essentially arbitrary value determined purely by how much other people are willing to buy and sell them for.

[Anonymous No.12552779]

>>12552677
The power of steel.
Aluminum or carbon fibre would've been a write-off for sure.

[Anonymous No.12552784]

>TFW starship will never dock to the ISS, because the ISS will dock with starship

[Anonymous No.12552786]

>>12552784
ISS replacement made out of Starship wet workshops when?

[Anonymous No.12552790]

>>12552784

>YFW Starship does a Progress and rams the ISS, obliterating it.

[Anonymous No.12552792]

Why did it fail?

[Anonymous No.12552794]

>>12552792
terrible wet/dry ratio?

[Anonymous No.12552795]

>>12552792
Because it's a dumb idea?

[Anonymous No.12552796]

>>12552792
Wtf is this skyscraper onion staging? This is some kerbal shit

[Anonymous No.12552798]

>>12552786
>Starship wet workshop with a pressurized fairing
>dock space station modules inside to help train for in-orbit assembly and repair

[Anonymous No.12552801]

>>12552792
Politics.

[Anonymous No.12552803]

>>12552795
the "mass production rocket" is a cool idea but yeah, that's not the way to do it

>>12552796
idea is that you make a bunch of cheap and skinny mini-rockets and strap them together as needed. So yes very kerbal.

Can't remember what that thing was called, though.

[Anonymous No.12552804]

>>12552786
Depends on how Starship will dock. A lot of concept art has it docking 1-1 at the rear. Not much room for expansion that way

[Anonymous No.12552806]

>>12552775
No, yeet ship out the solar system.

[Anonymous No.12552807]

>>12552804
Isn't that just for refuelling?

[Anonymous No.12552808]

ALPACA on the MOON
https://www.dynetics.com/newsroom/news/2021/dynetics-achieves-critical-nasa-milestone-and-delivers-key-data-on-lunar-lander-program

[Anonymous No.12552809]

>>12552796
Read up on how it was suppose to work. Those skinny cycles are each an independent pressure fed rocket. They were gonna just bundle them together to make bigger rockets. The way staging works was you'd fire the outer edge and progress towards the center.

[Anonymous No.12552811]

>>12552804
They’re supposed to be able to dock dolphin-sex style too

[Anonymous No.12552814]

>>12552576
but I don't want to spend a lot of money

[Anonymous No.12552816]

>>12552747
yes they are, the vast majority of xx centuries geniuses were commies or socialist. Left leaning ideology clumps around colleges, you know the places were all professionals that you go to for help come from

[Anonymous No.12552821]

>>12552814
uh no I mean I'm using MPV and youtube-dl in order to watch a bunch of videos at once

[Anonymous No.12552822]

>>12552807
True, but I don't think there's any official visuals of it docking any other ways yet
>>12552811
This is what I mean, it's supposed to, but we don't know how it will look yet

[Anonymous No.12552824]

>>12552816
>the vast majority of xx centuries geniuses were commies or socialist
Amazing how, even with all that support, socialism still managed to fail everywhere it's been tried.

[Anonymous No.12552826]

>>12552816
Marx was literally a trust fund NEET

[Anonymous No.12552829]

>>12552808
I really, really hope that Dynetics wins the HLS contract. I'm gonna try to get an internship with them this summer.

[Anonymous No.12552831]

>>12552796
OTRAG. Some Nazis scammed an African dictator with this concept.

[Anonymous No.12552832]

>>12552829
make sure they see the ALPACA on the MOON image

[Anonymous No.12552833]

>>12552826
Hmm that’s actually pretty based
>>12552811
I wonder if 2 upper stage starships have enough thrust to dock dolphin style and launch to LEO. One could be a tanker and the other could be a crewed SS

[Anonymous No.12552834]

>>12552816
>Sheltered academics buy into retarded ideas

Wow big news

[Anonymous No.12552838]

>>12552822
>This is what I mean, it's supposed to, but we don't know how it will look yet

Probably just a hatch on the crew module portion, which could possibly also be the airlock for disembarking on Mars or for going on EVA in space.

[Anonymous No.12552839]

>>12552829
Good luck with the internship fren

[Anonymous No.12552842]

the CIA needs to go back to assassinating populists

[Anonymous No.12552843]

>>12552726
I'm not even posting anime girls lmao, that's some other anon. I'm just seeing some anons enjoying whatever japanese rocket fetish art they like, and ONE dbz autist who consistently posts frames of a single character and says "this one's better".

[Anonymous No.12552847]

>>12552824
Might've helped if they had stopped putting people like Korolev into the fucking Gulag.

[Anonymous No.12552851]

>>12552762
cope, digestlet

[Anonymous No.12552852]

>>12552792
OTRAG but with Superheavies when?

[Anonymous No.12552857]

>>12552762
t. Scotsman who survives on nothing but oatmeal and communism

[Anonymous No.12552859]

>>12552821
actually I was making a family guy reference

[Anonymous No.12552865]

>>12552816
High IQ people view the world as if everyone is high IQ but stuck in shitty living situations. News flash my smart retards, dumb people make it impossible to do anything resembling a functioning communist society because they're DUMB, and they cannot be fixed.

[Anonymous No.12552872]

>>12552865
You’d have to be stupid to want to participate in a communist society in the first place.

[Anonymous No.12552880]

>>12552865
>High IQ people view the world as if everyone is high IQ
What are you talking about? Do you think anyone on the right side of the bell curve is high IQ? Midwits by definition aren't "high IQ"

[Anonymous No.12552881]

>>12552872
Yes, but it's a different kind of stupid, it's naivety. Highly intelligent people tend to automatically avoid most of the pitfalls they come across as they develop and therefore have no real experience with how BAD shit can get. They just have a vague misty understanding of what a famine or a war is. They also tend to trust their own judgement a lot more than the average person because they are used to being right. Combine those two things and you end up with a person who has it aaall figured out and will fight for their perfect societal system right up until the products of that system decide that person is problematic/privileged and decide to draw and quarter him.

[Anonymous No.12552883]

>107 deleted posts in one thread
Jesus Christ, guys.

[Anonymous No.12552884]

>>12552865
>High IQ people view the world as if everyone is high IQ but stuck in shitty living situations.
thast an oximoron

you cant say smart person
smart beign someone who is good at thinking
think everyone is like them
if they do
then theyre objectively not smart

[Anonymous No.12552885]

>>12552880
No I mean IQ 140+ people generally have no idea how stupid even the midwits are, let alone the retards. It is actually incomprehensible to them to be that lacking in self awareness, curiosity, or basic problem evaluation.

[Anonymous No.12552887]

>>12552822
Oh ok I thought that some of the ISS docking renders were official

[Anonymous No.12552888]

>>12552884
why
do
you
type
like
this
?

[Anonymous No.12552891]

>>12552888
because im clearly not high iq

[Anonymous No.12552892]

>>12552884
You clearly don't know what an oxymoron is. Also, I don't literally mean that high IQ people think everyone is smart, I mean they think about people in such a way that it is impossible for them to believe that the average person finds it very difficult to learn some totally new concept, and has NO developed ability to mentally audit themselves.

[Anonymous No.12552895]

>>12552888
He's double-digit bro :'(

[Anonymous No.12552896]

>>12552892
This is true. I used to get offended at everyone around me being dumb as bricks for being so slow to learn things.

[Anonymous No.12552899]

Biden and Kamala will cancel space as revenge for today.

[Anonymous No.12552900]

>>12552851
>>12552857
I don't know man, I've eaten duck embryo at a random Vietnamese street corner that's given me less diarrhea than American KFC has. I realize that's a loaded thing to say given the current state of the world but that's my experience

[Anonymous No.12552902]

>>12552883
should be more.
it's the easiest rule in the world - talk about space. god damn.

[Anonymous No.12552903]

>>12552881
I like owning things and I like gathering resources to further specifically myself and my dependents. I don’t want to help some stranger. They can go get fucked

[Anonymous No.12552904]

>>12552888
There is a lot of reddit spacing in this general I've noticed

[Anonymous No.12552905]

>>12552899
Don't be silly. We need to land Tyrone and his harem on the Moon first.

[Anonymous No.12552906]

>>12552885
this makes sense, i don't know how "smart" i am but its clearly above average and sometimes i see normies stuck in problems that seem so fucking trivial.

Like, people with no money. Just study and work hard
>no but i cant do it or i dont want to
nigga, youll have to work the same when you run out of money, do it now and do it in something in which theres a lot of work
>no no no no no i cant
*time passes*
>shit im stuck at a dead end job there was no way to prevent this

[Anonymous No.12552908]

>>12552904
What you call "reddit spacing" is just phoneposters formatting for a smaller screen you retard.

[Anonymous No.12552910]

>>12552908
you dont need to put double newlines in 4chan you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.12552911]

>>12552899
if something happens to spaceflight is the fault of trump (right wing=stupidity=lack of progress), spaceflight is the realm of left wing patriots just like the self aclaimed socialist elon musk. You might say what you want about him, you might take out of context his enjoyment of transgender metaphors in twitter, but the obejctive undeniable definitino of his political ideology is clealry left wing, in his own words "socialist" this is objective information, if this triggers you youre against the laws of physics which are also objective reality

[Anonymous No.12552912]

>>12552908
>reddit spacing
>phoneposters
All the same to me

[Anonymous No.12552913]

>>12552911
>A billionaire who owns private companies can be a socialist

This only makes sense if you’re using “socialist” in the sense used by Nazis.

[Anonymous No.12552917]

>>12552900
don't eat american fast food

[Anonymous No.12552919]

>>12552900
Good point. KFC should be avoided at all costs lmao
>>12552643
Not even trying to be funny or anything: I don’t think Starliner has the ability to get to the ISS- and it wont have that ability for at least another year or two. It’s a fucking DISGRACE that starliner was awarded the larger contract over spacex

[Anonymous No.12552928]

>>12552892
>>12552896
I hate this so much.
I'll never get used to it.

[Anonymous No.12552929]

Give it to me straight, /sfg/, will SN9 fly this week/weekend?

[Anonymous No.12552930]

>>12552919
>KFC should be avoided at all costs lmao
Fair enough, we don't have chlorine chicken here, so it's actually pretty good

This post in spaceflight related

[Anonymous No.12552931]

>>12552929
YES IT WILL, STATIC FIRE WAS SUCCESS, PRIMARY DAY IS FRIDAY, BACKUP DATES ARE SAT AND SUN, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE, THEN YOU'RE A SHITTY LITTLE BOING SHILL AND/OR BO FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.12552934]

>>12552931
If this is a lie I'm putting you on Starliner.

[Anonymous No.12552936]

>>12552934
DOESN'T MATTER, ATLEAST MADE IT TO SPACE

[Anonymous No.12552938]

>>12552929
Friday is the first window.

[Anonymous No.12552942]

>>12552934
>execution by starliner

lul

[Anonymous No.12552943]

>>12552931
This is comically wrong. First of all, SN9 exploded today. Second, they have no permits. You can't just invent your own little reality to live inside

[Anonymous No.12552948]

>>12552943
YOUR MOM HAS THE BIG GAY, KYS WITH THE LIES

[Anonymous No.12552949]

>>12552934
cruel

[Anonymous No.12552952]

>>12552943
Fellow Starshiptardss we got to cocky, I guess I'm #/ridingthestarliner/ now

[Anonymous No.12552953]

Why are there fucking pony ads on my board? Horsefuckers get out reeeeee

[Anonymous No.12552957]

>>12552953
>Horsefuckers get out reeeeee
Fun fact: the guy from the Mr. Hands video was a Boeing engineer.

[Anonymous No.12552959]

>>12552934
>>12552942
>>12552949
How will it do this year lads? I've been seeing multiple articles hyping it up as a coming highlight of this year.

[Anonymous No.12552961]

>>12552949
What version of KSP is this?

[Anonymous No.12552963]

>>12552953
Horse assholes are the most aesthetic in the animal kingdom

[Anonymous No.12552964]

>>12552953
>he doesn't have an adblocker
Here, you dropped this

[Anonymous No.12552966]

>>12552961
an early version with really terrible coding

[Anonymous No.12552968]

>>12552957
>it's true

Can't make this shit up lmao

[Anonymous No.12552974]

>>12552968
Oh fuck it really is

[Anonymous No.12552983]

>>12552953
>turn off adblock
>it's true
Oh no no no

[Anonymous No.12552995]

>>12552983
>shitty memes
>fucked up greentexting
>uneven price
it hurts

[Anonymous No.12552996]

>>12552983
That's an onahole, isn't it

[Anonymous No.12552997]

>>12552995
$13.50 is a /pol/ joke. Blacks are 13% of the population but commit 50% of violent crime.

[Anonymous No.12553015]

What is the most aesthetic rocket engine and why?

[Anonymous No.12553018]

>>12553015
The MK-55 Thud

[Anonymous No.12553022]

>>12553015
The F-1, obviously.

[Anonymous No.12553028]

>>12553015
AJ-10

[Anonymous No.12553034]

>>12553015
Raptor, that shit's purple flame is pure SOUL

[Anonymous No.12553035]

>>12553015
POWERFUL
RUGGED
VERSATILE
AMERICAN
also I got blocked by a janny for off-topic posting, whoops not banned tho

[Anonymous No.12553040]

>>12553035
eh, it typically takes a few hours for the moderation team to get around to banning you

[Anonymous No.12553041]

>>12553035
I wonder how much he got payed for that

[Anonymous No.12553044]

Don't forget to plug in your rocket engines so they'll recharge

[Anonymous No.12553047]

Look like SpaceX is announcing another road closure for tomorrow. Seems like they're gonna have another static fire.

[Anonymous No.12553048]

Elon will move to China because of Democrats. Screencap this

[Anonymous No.12553050]

>second static fire today
looks like that static fire was a bit too short

[Anonymous No.12553052]

>>12553048
ITAR

[Anonymous No.12553057]

>>12553048
>Imagine being in possession of this much cope.

[Anonymous No.12553060]

>>12553052
Seen this before, what does the acronym mean? Something to do with asset seizure?

[Anonymous No.12553063]

>>12553060
No retard, international trade in arms regulations. Rockets = Missiles. Musk has also proclaimed pro-americanism many times, he is in process of moving his businesses to texas, which I think will secede within 20 years.

[Anonymous No.12553065]

>>12553060
It's a law that prevents American-developed defense technologies from being exported (or even accessible) to foreign countries without state department approval. The US government takes that shit extremely seriously.

[Anonymous No.12553071]

>>12552961
Boing expansion pack
>>12552983
You know there's a rule against posting mlp content outside /mlp/, right? It doesn't matter if you're reposting a cancer ad, it's a bad idea. I think you can still delete it for a few more minutes.

[Anonymous No.12553079]

>>12553071
Oh noes are the jannies gonna ban me? I hope they get compensated at least

[Anonymous No.12553080]

>>12553071
>You know there's a rule against posting mlp content outside /mlp/, right?
i don't think the jannies are THAT draconian, although i did get banned for a month once after making an "in minecraft" joke so idk

[Anonymous No.12553081]

>>12553063
>which I think will secede within 20 years.

Lol cope

[Anonymous No.12553086]

>>12553063
The literal people who are bringing high tech, high values businesses to TX are the same people who align with the values of other high population rich states, Liberal. Its delusional that people can continually want high value jobs to come to their state, then bitch when the people that fill those jobs are liberal.

[Anonymous No.12553088]

>>12553081
By secede, he probably means "rejoin Mexico." Far more likely.

[Anonymous No.12553093]

>>12553086
Huh, I wonder why they decided to move their high value businesses from an environment with a ridiculous regulatory and tax burden.

[Anonymous No.12553094]

>>12553086
Le epic enlightened centrist
>>12553022
Unmatched by any other engine, save for raptor

[Anonymous No.12553097]

>>12553052
What’s America gonna do? Ask China to extradite him?
Good luck with that

[Anonymous No.12553100]

>>12553086
>The literal people who are bringing high tech, high values businesses to TX are the same people who align with the values of other high population rich states
Seems like Elon isn't one of those people since he often ran his businesses against California's wishes

[Anonymous No.12553105]

>>12553093
I'm not saying its logical or consistent, but thats the reality of it. They will still vote for the same policies that pushed them out. People vote on cultural identity more than policies or rational thought, the culture of the high value people doesnt change and they bring the policies with them. You can like it or hate it, but it is the general reality we live in.

>>12553100
Yeah, and he maybe more conservative than the political position of California. Doesn't mean that the rank and file engineers reflect his views, in fact we know most of them are in line with California politically.

[Anonymous No.12553107]

>>12553097
Stop any knowledge and tech transfer from the US. Elon isn't a chief engineer. If he wants to move or restart SpaceX in China then he has to move large amounts of people and material out of the country and that is trackable and stoppable

[Anonymous No.12553109]

>>12550960
>they may be doing another static fire tonight
Neat.

[Anonymous No.12553111]

>>12552983
Good fucking god.

[Anonymous No.12553119]

>>12553109
eh, not sure. There was a big detank not long ago: https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1346979211446153216

[Anonymous No.12553121]

>>12553107
In reality all he has to move is a bunch of hard drives.

[Anonymous No.12553123]

>>12553079
I got an autoban once for posting a version of >>12553111 pic. So yeah they do it for free.

[Anonymous No.12553125]

>>12553107
>Stop any knowledge and tech transfer from the US

Download to flash drive. Take to China.

[Anonymous No.12553128]

>>12553125
>Download to flash drive. Take to China.
Say hello to Jack Ma.

[Anonymous No.12553132]

>>12553128
Jack Ma Dick lol

[Anonymous No.12553135]

>>12553132
Based

[Anonymous No.12553143]

>>12553128
Elon is already partially established in China, what with having a Tesla gigafactory over there. They’d be more than happy to give him a fat budget and room to make fuckhueg rockets if he asked

[Anonymous No.12553151]

>>12553097
Considering pretty much all of his assets are held in the United States, there’s a fuckton of stuff the American government could do to him. If one of the richest men on Earth starts transferring his funds out of the country, it’s not going to go unnoticed.

[Anonymous No.12553152]

>>12553143
See, that's the thing about a touchy, paranoid, kleptomaniac government, you never know when they'll decide to turn on you.

[Anonymous No.12553160]

>>12553152
Yeah, America is fucked up

Oh you meant China

[Anonymous No.12553163]

>>12553151
Biden’s America will cuck to China

[Anonymous No.12553166]

>>12553160
Why do you think he moved out of Cali?

[Anonymous No.12553167]

>>12553035
would a rotating detonation engine need all the plumbing around the turbines there?

[Anonymous No.12553170]

>>12553167
yes and more

[Anonymous No.12553176]

>>12553160
So Biden will then fuck with spacex on china’s wishes in an attempt to hinder their development and plans.

[Anonymous No.12553195]

>>12553176
They’d benefit even more from stealing SpaceX. US is probably a dead end if the arrow keeps pointing the way it is right now; what matters is that Elon either establishes Mars before its too far gone or relocates to another nation

[Anonymous No.12553214]

>>12553195
I know he is trying, but he needs to absolutely beeline for Mars and get this colony going, if he can set it up then he can pretty much run it how he likes and he may create a nation that will in years to come dominate the divided nations of Earth.

And it could not come soon enough, anything to escape the clown world.

[Anonymous No.12553215]

>>12553128
>Jack Ma
poor bastard got disappeared

[Anonymous No.12553228]

>>12553044
>t. RocketLab

[Anonymous No.12553241]

>>12552949
holy fuck is that the starliner test flight? did they broadcast that shitshow life?

[Anonymous No.12553247]

>>12553241
*live

[Anonymous No.12553251]

>>12553241
Yup.

[Anonymous No.12553255]

>>12552959
Either they pull a miracle out of their ass or its going to be another disaster.

[Anonymous No.12553256]

>>12553241
yes and yes. they even tried to pass it off as somewhat successful.

[Anonymous No.12553259]

>>12553241
yup
https://youtu.be/PIDytLL734A?t=5431
https://youtu.be/PIDytLL734A?t=5526
https://youtu.be/PIDytLL734A?t=5613
https://youtu.be/PIDytLL734A?t=5709
https://youtu.be/PIDytLL734A?t=5805
https://youtu.be/PIDytLL734A?t=6018

[Anonymous No.12553270]

>>12553256
What were the errors other than the infamous Boing!(tm) clock?

[Anonymous No.12553277]

>>12553270
The service module separation procedure would've likely impacted the heat shield had it been carried out as programmed, so they had to change it in flight. Boeing initially touted this as an achievement.

[Anonymous No.12553278]

>>12553259
fucking disgusting pajeetess at 43:20 saying how dedicated they are to the mission, and how it represents not America, but the world. Boeing got what they fucking deserve.

[Anonymous No.12553281]

>>12553278
Remember when lots of people were seething that SpaceX employees were chanting USA USA USA?

[Anonymous No.12553286]

>>12553281
LOL yeah on reddit too
>It's an achievement for the whole planet, not just Americans, it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Borders don't exist in space, let's keep nationalism out of this, it's the shared accomplishment of all mankind!

[Anonymous No.12553289]

>>12553270
https://spacenews.com/starliner-investigation-finds-numerous-problems-in-boeing-software-development-process/
>the thrusters weren't mapped properly when the capsule separated form its service module which could result in a collision
>the code was written in chunks but were never checked together; all one million lines of it
>communication issues due to unforeseen interactions with ambient radio traffic
There were some others, but most were either too minor or nuanced to be mentioned/publicly noticed. Perhaps just never mentioned because they look too bad

[Anonymous No.12553290]

>>12552138
It's possible that he's just keeping his cards close to the chest. I'd be surprised if they have a new rocket deep in development though, since it would have to be either a slightly larger Electron (doable but may not be worth it), a large rocket capable of propulsive landing (probably not doable), or some totally new concept. Also, Rocket Lab's satellite business is ramping up, so if Starship renders Electron obsolete (I don't think it will), they'd still have that.

[Anonymous No.12553292]

>>12553167
Yes, RDEs are the same as regular rockets right up to, but not including, the injection plate.

[Anonymous No.12553294]

>>12553286
Only americans did it, it's not an achievement for canadians if the dutch build a big water lock

[Anonymous No.12553296]

>>12553270
Not even making this shit up: Boeing purposefully went slow with Starliner. Their plan was to wait for spacex to fail and say they needed more time and money for dragon, and they were going to ask for more money for starliner. Once they realized Musk was holding a schedule and making dragon on time they rushed starliner to meet the deadline and fucked a lot of things up. I think at this point NASA has called for like 60-80 big changes on the capsule that were supposed to be there the day it tried to fly to the ISS

[Anonymous No.12553301]

>>12553294
that's not very inclusive of you, borders are just imaginary lines and are a racist white supremacist ideal designed to keep POC in the global south out.

[Anonymous No.12553303]

>>12553301
Why do African countries have orders, then?

[Anonymous No.12553314]

>>12553303
the white devil colonizers drew them.

[Anonymous No.12553318]

>>12553314
Only to an extent. Before colonization, Africa was full of tons of states that had borders with eachother. You’re delusional.

[Anonymous No.12553324]

>>12553318
dude are you this incapable of recognizing irony? I fucking hate niggers lmao I just threw together a bunch of words I see on black twitter and in sociology textbooks.

[Anonymous No.12553327]

Do we have official confirmation that the static fire was successful?

[Anonymous No.12553340]

>>12553324
some people are less able to pick up tones, we call those retarded

[Anonymous No.12553348]

>>12553340
There’s no tone in text

[Anonymous No.12553351]

>>12553348
anon im sorry but you're retarded

[Anonymous No.12553363]

>>12553340
I think that's a classic characteristic of autism /asperger's.

[Anonymous No.12553364]

>>12553348
Do you have aspergers? Lmao
>>12553035
The guy she tells you not to worry about vs. the guy she tells you really really not to worry about especially if you’re a vacuum environment

[Anonymous No.12553368]

decided to check the old heckin redditirino, found one of /our/guys there

[Anonymous No.12553370]

why cant spacex recover upper stages?

[Anonymous No.12553371]

That post was offtopic and also gay

[Anonymous No.12553377]

>>12553370
that demands extra weight which would cut into the payload too much for it to be worth it

[Anonymous No.12553379]

>>12553364
>Do you have aspergers? Lmao

Yes.
You’re dumb if you think Poe’s Law isn’t heavy on 4Chan tho

[Anonymous No.12553380]

>>12553370
It needs more fuel and some landing legs for that, but that adds mass to your upper rocket so you need more fuel on the first stage, but now you have even more mass and your center of balance has changed and now you need more fuel for the added mass and aaaaaaahhhh!
Long story short, the falcon is a very fine balance of mass and fuel (when falcon lands, it’s basically doing so on zero fuel left in the tank). Adding any more mass or fuel really fucks with everything

[Anonymous No.12553382]

>>12553379
there was no way to misinterpret that level of sarcasm unless you are legitimately autistic. the whole chain started with hating on the pajeetess for being a globalist anyways.

[Anonymous No.12553383]

>>12553370
They can it's called Starship

[Anonymous No.12553385]

>>12553382
I am autistic

[Anonymous No.12553386]

>>12553379
>>12553385
Based. Didn’t mean to offend you if I did
>>12553327
I believe it was

[Anonymous No.12553387]

>>12553385
well I'm actually sorry then, that sounds debilitating for making friends and meeting girls.

[Anonymous No.12553426]

>>12553370
They're working on it

[Anonymous No.12553446]

>>12553426
I still can't believe how cool this thing looks.

[Anonymous No.12553449]

Well after today I understand Elon's desire to flee the planet. FUCK URF.

[Anonymous No.12553465]

>>12553281
>>12553286
Link?

[Anonymous No.12553483]

just notice that SN9 was venting near a top flap after the static fire. Did SN8 ever do that?

[Anonymous No.12553492]

ELOOOOOOOON

[Anonymous No.12553493]

>>12553483
SN8 had two vents up near the flaps like that one, you can see them both going right before it takes off

[Anonymous No.12553497]

>>12553492
lmao

[Anonymous No.12553499]

>>12553492
BASED BASED BASED BASED

[Anonymous No.12553503]

>>12553492
Cool I guess I can buy some TSLA tomorrow

[Anonymous No.12553504]

>>12553492
This guy

[Anonymous No.12553506]

>>12553493
interesting. Why up there though?

[Anonymous No.12553509]

>>12553492
Come on Elon don’t let yourself get suddenly an hero’d.
Save the spicy memes until you’re on Mars.

[Anonymous No.12553526]

>>12553290
What if musk just buy and absorb them up and put his engineers to work on his projects, but with actual funding as they seem really competent and driven, but don’t I see what part of the market they even have anymore. They seem like they could be better used in spacex than as a separate organisation.

[Anonymous No.12553528]

>>12553506
Might be related to the header tank or the cold gas thrusters

[Anonymous No.12553536]

>>12553526
>They seem like they could be better used in spacex than as a separate organisation.
Imagine Photon scaled up to use a Vacuum Raptor instead of its current pissant engine. They could have the Rocket Lab guys building crew-capable stations in LEO via combining Starship payloads, and shipping them off to LVO with Raptor tugs.

[Anonymous No.12553545]

>>12553536
Maybe tweet musk about it. They seem like very similar organisations when it comes to their plans, pooling their resources and manpower seems like the most beneficial outcome rather than trying to compete in what is rapidly becoming a crowded market with startups that are better funded and better connected.

[Anonymous No.12553546]

>>12553545
>Maybe tweet musk about it.
I've been banned like 20 times this year. I'll see if I can make a fresh account on incognito mode.

[Anonymous No.12553551]

>>12553546
I don’t even have a Twitter, but it’s the only decent way of communicating ideas to him for normal people.

[Anonymous No.12553563]

https://spacenews.com/darpa-satellites-damaged-at-processing-facility-ahead-of-spacex-launch/

Haven't heard anybody taking about this yet.

[Anonymous No.12553570]

>>12553563
who owns the processing facility?

[Anonymous No.12553575]

>>12553570
> The mishap happened on Jan. 4 at SpaceX’s launch processing facility at Cape Canaveral, Florida.

[Anonymous No.12553577]

>>12553563
> According to an industry source the mishap happened while the satellites were being stacked and the payload separation system was accidentally released.
Well that’s embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.12553583]

>>12551911

[Anonymous No.12553606]

>>12553575
>>12553577
who has the ula sniper pic

[Anonymous No.12553609]

>>12553492
I don’t get it, is he making fun of the degeneracy if social media?

[Anonymous No.12553612]

>>12553577
>the payload separation system was accidentally released.
yikes... probably not recoverable, then

[Anonymous No.12553615]

>>12553609
facebook turning boomers insane

[Anonymous No.12553619]

>>12553609
It’s a reference to GamerGate I think?

[Anonymous No.12553621]

>>12553619
>>12553615
it's a reference to the face-rating app that mark zuckerberg once made while at harvard, which eventually inspired him to create facebook, which turned boomers insane.

[Anonymous No.12553625]

>>12553621
Ah gotcha, that’s what I assumed it was

[Anonymous No.12553638]

>>12553563
Assuming a successful launch, they should put this in the books as a partial launch failure. SpaceX lost satellites: whether they did it before or during launch is irrelevant. This'll get swept under the rug though.

[Anonymous No.12553668]

>>12553612
I dunno. A big NOAA sat fell over in processing once and was recoverable. Then again, given the fact that these are presumably pretty small (given the fact that they’re rideshares) they may be well and truly fucked. At least they’re probably comparatively cheap.

[Anonymous No.12553674]

>>12553668
>DARPA
>cheap
anon

[Anonymous No.12553678]

>>12553674
Good point in general, but DARPA’s been doing a lot of relatively low cost hardware demonstrators over the past few years. They understand the strategic value of driving costs down better than most military organizations.

[Anonymous No.12553695]

https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/sls/proceeding-with-green-run-hot-fire.html
> NASA is targeting the final test in the Green Run series, the hot fire, for as early as Jan.17. The hot fire is the culmination of the Green Run test series, an eight-part test campaign that gradually brings the core stage of the Space Launch System (SLS) — the deep space rocket that will power the agency’s next-generation human Moon missions — to life for the first time.
Artemis 1 is launching this year. Doomers btfo.

[Anonymous No.12553697]

>>12553563
>>12553577
Embarrassing and someone will get fired but this no NOAA-19. They were only two cubesats and part of this DARPA program is designed to try to get them under two million a piece.
>>12553606
ULA double agent rogue employees. ULA is getting more clever and desperate by the day.

[Anonymous No.12553709]

>>12553697

[Anonymous No.12553713]

>>12553368
spic here. God it feels to see a race traitor get rekt. Now I know how white guys feel when coal burners pay the toll.

[Anonymous No.12553716]

>>12553713
A white male / beaness pairing isn't reaaaaaally strictly speaking racemixing, it's more like finishing the job.

[Anonymous No.12553723]

>>12553697
So if a cubesat has a volume of 1000 cubic centimetres, gold is 19.32 grams per cubic centimetre, and costs $61.90 USD per gram, if these were literally made gold they would only cost $1,195,908 a piece.

I may just be retarded but god damn satellites are expensive.

[Anonymous No.12553724]

>>12553695
inb4 RUD

[Anonymous No.12553728]

>>12553723
A single cubesat is usually less than $100,000.

[Anonymous No.12553771]

>>12551943
It’s really quite big. Here’s something for scale:
Virginia class nuclear attack submarine:
115m long
10m wide
7,900,000 kg mass

Starship:
50 m tall
9 m wide
1,320,000 kg mass

Starship+ super heavy:
122m tall
9 m wide
5,000,000 kg

[Anonymous No.12553794]

>>12552513
The lazy progeny of a beloved king, all sls does is say “I’ll leave home next year” and watch tv and eat Doritos and wipe the dust on his tighty whiteys

[Anonymous No.12553878]

[Anonymous No.12553890]

>>12553446
>phallus shaped
>cool

Anon pls

[Anonymous No.12553906]

>>12553606

[Anonymous No.12553907]

>>12553890
That's rockets in general though really

[Anonymous No.12553935]

God I love the sound of a staggered static fire. sounds like a gun goin off in succession

[Anonymous No.12553945]

>>12553695
Based NASA

[Anonymous No.12554007]

>>12552420
Time to speed up the notifications with Indonesia

[Anonymous No.12554010]

>>12554007
negotiations
Fucking hell, no more phoneposting with autocorrect

[Anonymous No.12554039]

I'm done with Ars for space news and news in general. I've seen too many commenters celebrating the protestor being killed and wishes that more were killed with her. Even calls for civil war against people on the right. Worse the Ars staff are seemingly okay with it? We need a new source for space news than Berger and the other liberal news media. I don't want to give them clicks any more.

[Anonymous No.12554102]

>>12554039
Try posting these things for BLM riots and chimpouts and you get scrubbed from the face of Earth. At the same time, you can't really do much about it, politics are everywhere, unfortunately. Just run uBO and use their content without giving back

[Anonymous No.12554126]

>>12554039
>I've seen too many commenters celebrating the protestor being killed
You're joking, right? That can't be real

[Anonymous No.12554159]

>>12554039
>black people get shot all the time
>we demand that white people get shot equally
Seems like the American thing to demand.

[Anonymous No.12554209]

>>12554039
I stopped reading Ars after Peter Bright turned out to be a pedophile, with tons of warning signs.

Now I stick to Nasaspaceflight and, uh, here.

[Anonymous No.12554220]

>>12551935
Just built a Lego lunar lander loosely based on the Dynetics Alpaca

[Anonymous No.12554260]

new >>12554259

[Anonymous No.12554262]

>>12552931
> STATIC FIRE WAS SUCCESS
https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-sn9-triple-raptor-static-fire/

>SN9 ignited all three of its Raptors in quick succession and shut the engines down over the course of 1.5-2 seconds – extremely short relative to all previous nominal Starhopper or Starship-mounted Raptor static fires. Long-time followers immediately noted that small discrepancy, speculating that it could either have been a post-ignition abort or intentionally shortened to avoid damaging the pad’s concrete surface (an incident that’s occurred several times during recent tests).

was it really tho