/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12550089]

Why am I supposed to care about the relationship of race and IQ? How does the conversation benefit humanity?

[Anonymous No.12550092]

>>12550089
it don't because iq is a garbage metric that nobody uses anymore.

[Anonymous No.12550094]

It doesn't. It only 'benefits' divisiveness and encourages violence and the overall worst behavior of humans.

[Anonymous No.12550101]

Wouldn that be considered eugenics

[Anonymous No.12550110]

>>12550089
I've come to call the idea, that the IQ score is an accurate measurement of overall intelligence, not just some subsets, IQisms.
And people who endorse IQism are IQists.
Yes, the tasks on an IQ test are arbitrarily chosen. Everyone knows that. They are not chosen based on their overall predictiveness.

[Anonymous No.12550124]

>>12550089
IQ is real midwits

[Anonymous No.12551057]

Hey, Vsauce. Michael here.

Skeletons are scary and spooky, but you know what else is? Niggers.

According to the U.S Justice Department, in 2006, 32,443 women of Caucasian origin were raped by men of African origin.

That same year, the number of African American women raped by Caucasian men... was... zero.

In fact, 90% of all interracial crimes in the U.S. are committed by blacks... against whites...

So what if all blacks were to... suddenly... disappear from the U.S.?

Murder would go down 49.7 percent, welfare recipients would go down 40 percent, SAT scores would go up about 100 points, the average IQ would go up 7 points, and AIDS victims would go down a staggering... 67... percent.

Significant changes for race that only makes up 13% of the population.

But what is... "race"?

In biology, races are distinct genetically divergent populations ‘’within the same species’’, with relatively small morphological and genetic... differences.

Populations can be described as ecological races if they arise from adaptation to different local habitats or geographic races when they are geographically isolated.

However, if sufficiently different, two or more races can be identified as... sub... species.
So how long do two races have to be isolated from one another before they're considered separate species?
Earlier this year, Archaeologists found artefacts in a cave on Western Australia’s Barrow Island dating back more than 50,000 years, making it Australia’s earliest known site of human occupation.

In contrast, the domestication of the dog began just 15,000... years... ago.

This distance, some several thousand miles between the mainlands of Australia and Asia also caused another kind of distance.

Genetic... distance.

Genetic distance is a measure of the genetic divergence between species or between populations within a species.

Dogs and wolves have been found to have a shorter genetic distance between each other than Negroids and non-Negroids.

[Anonymous No.12551371]

>>12550089
you shouldnt care about it, the only people spending their days discussing it have already made up their mind and will do whatever mental gymnastics it takes to come to the conclusion they want, see: >>12551057
iq is useless since intelligence is far too complex and loosely defined and race is a societal construct that has essentially no basis in biology

[Anonymous No.12551403]

You don't have to care about it personally but by learning about it and implementing the right measures we can try to keep the first world smarter by not accepting blacks.

[Anonymous No.12551404]

>>12551371
Nice b8

[Anonymous No.12551414]

>>12550089
>I might be an unloved loser NEET but at least I'm of a better race and that makes me better than the most successful and well-loved nigger
It's brainlet cope, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.12551451]

>>12550089
IQ is everything. there is no reason why it should not be a factor in our immigration policy.

[Anonymous No.12551453]

>>12551371
cope

[Anonymous No.12551514]

>>12550089
There is something called the frog in the water, perhaps you have heard of it? I know the retards on this board are dumb and lazy however so I will explain it to you. If you turn the temperature up slowly the frog will not notice and stay in it until it is boiling and kills it.

I am an old fag, I have seen what the (((left))) is doing since 1995. They are creating a coalition to disenfranchise and attack white men for things they are not responsible for. At the time, I, as many people probably did, would raise an eyebrow when I heard leftists and nigs making crazy claims for why they fail so much in life.

Most people do not want to directly address dumb people when they say dumb shit however because they is no plus side to it. You assume dumb people will only reach other dumb people with their retardation and those dumb people will never accomplish anything anyway because we had institutions to deal with this kind of shit if it got necessary. They would debunk and publicize the truth exposing the stupid people for their stupidity and their (((movement))) would be regulated to the fringes of retard culture.

However these false narratives and outright lies have gone unchallenged for decades because the (((institutions))) that were supposed to fight back against this kind of thing have betrayed their duty and their very reason to exist due to being (((infiltrated))) and (((bought off))).

Now we must meat these lies and racist aggression towards head on on an individual level very aggressively because though you historically and politically illiterate incels may not realize or understand it, we are now at the boiling point as these people have done billions of dollars of damage destroying entire cities, been fully funded and backed by every major corporation in the world including the media and even Universities

[Anonymous No.12551530]

>>12550089
They slandered, attacked and murdered white people and are now going after the Asians as well and even gone so far as to blatantly steal an election right in front of the entire world.

Why should you care? Well do you care about science? I would assume yes since you are here. Well what do think happens to science when kool aid haired retard propagandists who dont give a flying fuck about truth are in charge of you in a work environment?

Don't worry that question is irrelevant because you will never get a job anyway if you are a white man and won't have to worry about that.

Do you value freedom? Do you want to live in a pod eating bugs and letting the government inject you with whatever shit they feel like to sterilize you and give you medical problems? Do you want to be liquidated in a work camp?

You may roll your eyes and think this hyperbolic fear mongering because, you, as I already said, are historically illiterate, but let me tell you something. This is where it always goes and once it gets over the hump it will race down hill so fast you won't even be able to see it just like a roller coaster. Know what? We are teetering on that hump right this very second with people pushing it forward and people trying to push it back and if you don't jump in line and start pushing back then you will deserve everything you that comes after it and you will regret not doing something while you should have I assure you because you cannot fathom the horrors that come next if it makes it over that hump.

[Anonymous No.12551544]

>>12550089
Who's forcing you to partake in the conversation? It's the people who are interested in the relationship between race and IQ who are under attack.

[Anonymous No.12551562]

>>12551514
>>12551530
dangerously based

[Anonymous No.12551580]

>>12551514
Wait,what do incels even have to do with what you said.
Fucking retard, as if they don't have enough reasons to be incels.

[Anonymous No.12551955]

>>12550089
Because then there is another explanation between race and income disparities other than whites are all evil and racist

[Anonymous No.12551974]

>>12551580
why do you cucks peretend you have sex? no watching someone else does not count

[Anonymous No.12551976]

>>12550089
is this of benefit to "humanity"?
>all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really

[Anonymous No.12552074]

2010
>IQ isn't real
2012
>It's not real you moron!
2014
>okay, maybe IQ is real, but it's purely environmental factors
2016
>okay, IQ is real, it's only partly genetic, mostly environmental
2018
>okay, maybe it's 50/50
2020
>It's 80/20 - 70/30? No it can't b-
2021
>well... How does the conversation benefit humanity huh?
You're on a science board. Science isn't just done to universally benefit humanity. Looking forward to part 2022.

[Anonymous No.12552099]

>>12551530
I'm not doing much atm so I will even add a little bit more to this and give it a bump before I start cooking dinner.

You know the people who call everyone /pol/ and "nazi" and "trumptard" and "chud" and all the other stupid shit they say for even discussing this topic? You ever noticed how they consistently and unequivocally get BTFO because their arguments are completely debunked and even nonsensical? You notice how that doesnt stop them however and every single thread they will push their same debunked narratives openly ignoring the proof in the very thread itself?

You think these people give a fuck about truth? I will answer this for you. No, they don't. They only give a fuck what is in their best interests and if you are a white man what is in their best interests is not in your best interest.

You may even have the overwhelming desire to call people these names I mentioned above yourself. Do you know why? You may think it is because you want to "be a nice guy" and you want "everyone to get along", you are interested in fair play, helping those less fortunate than yourself etc. That isn't really why however. The real reason is because you have been brainwashed your entire life to think this way by people for a specific purpose in mind. While you are doing these things and thinking you are the good guy and some benevolent benefactor who will be appreciated and praised for doing so.

Let me tell you what you are really doing however. You are ceeding more and more power to people who despise you and want to destroy you. They put on a smiley face while they know you have the upper hand but as soon as they have the upper hand that smile will immediately dispapear I promise you.

[Anonymous No.12552103]

>>12552099
You will think "but I was one of the good guys, I did everything I could to disenfranchise my own people to help you people" and not one person on their side is going to give a shit. Don't believe me? BLM was burning down Abraham Lincoln statues. The man that freed their asses from slavery. Countless American lives were lost fighting for these people. Do you think any of them know the names of any the men that died face down in the mud fighting for their freedom? Do you think any of them would erect a statue to any of those men? No, they will sure as hell tear them down though.

No one on their side may give a shit that you betrayed your own people to give away their birthright and nation that their forefathers left for them to hostile invaders, but you know who will give a shit? The people you betrayed and gave away their birthright that will now have to fight for their lives and the future of their children because they no longer have a homeland and live in a hostile environment as minority in the country their forefathers conquered, that you helped give away.

Traitors always get the bullet before an enemy.

[Anonymous No.12552181]

>>12551057
Some of the most violent people are also the most intelligent. You just don't hear about the statistics on it because they usually don't get caught.

Niggers are just the Roma, Irish, etc underclass of the world that causes a ruckus.

[Anonymous No.12552193]

>>12550089
heuristics

[Anonymous No.12552216]

>>12550089
It will just keep you busy, not doing the important stuff.

[Anonymous No.12552408]

>>12551974
Paying for a thot,they were always there and are less expensive than a girlfriend or your casual sex.
They know what they do,they know who they don't fuck and you have less chances of getting Metooed

[Anonymous No.12552453]

>>12551514
(((They))) are on here too, shilling against race realism and IQ differences

[Anonymous No.12553219]

>>12551514
>>12551530
All of these paragraphs and you didn't answer the bigger question:How does the conversation benefit humanity?

[Anonymous No.12553508]

>>12553219
The sooner you acknowledge the differences, the sooner you can look into eugenics to fix the problem

[Anonymous No.12553983]

>>12553219
if someone has to explicitly state "the answer is x" because you can't pull it out of the paragraph yourself you are 99 percent likely on the spectrum or mentally retarded anon

[Anonymous No.12554165]

>>12551057
Who would've thought members of a species distinctly bred to perform different tasks would gradually genetically divert much quicker than species who weren't?

>>12551514
>>12551530
Biden will be your president.

[Anonymous No.12554179]

>>12554165
>implying I give a flying fuck what ZOG puppet is in the whitehouse

Good, he will speed up the inevitable. You still won't get free hormones and bottom surgery however

[Anonymous No.12554189]

>>12550089
None, it's just "people" trying to justify their hatred and pretending to be logical when it's purely emotional and childlike

[Anonymous No.12554200]

>>12550089

By making people realize that only whites are people and that we need to kill non-whites and race traitors. Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12554225]

>>12554189
>The people who are purposefully spreading lies to expand and consolidated their power, and their useful idiots who are attacking other people based on their race, and destroying their property and livelihoods are the "good guys".
>The people being attacked and slandered for exposing their lies and what they are really doing are doing it "out of hate."
>historically and politically illiterate

I really hate you stupid motherfuckers on this board. I'm not even memeing you people are so fucking stupid it defies all reason.

[Anonymous No.12554232]

>>12550089
The right to have the conversation, research the topic or communicate results is under real threat. Sad that so many in /sci/ don't care or even approve censorship.

[Anonymous No.12554251]

>>12554232
>Sad that so many in /sci/ don't care or even approve censorship.

see:
>>12552103
>>12552099

[Anonymous No.12554391]

>>12554179
>You still won't get free hormones and bottom surgery however
No, but your great grandson will.

[Anonymous No.12554647]

>>12554391

[Anonymous No.12554668]

>>12550089
ignorance of the genetic basis of IQ has led to innumerable false studies in the soft sciences. You want your tax dollars to be used efficiently right? Furthermore, IQ studies can justifiably be used to cut off funding to Africa for instance, or get rid of this affirmative action nonsense.

[Anonymous No.12554707]

>>12550089
>us govt gives black people $500B of what are basically reparations
>hurr what use could scientific evidence that black people are inferior and not just oppressed have in the real world?
retard

[Anonymous No.12554788]

>>12550092
>I failed an IQ test.
>Next I failed the urine test.

[Anonymous No.12554848]

>>12554647
You’ll get the wall, again.

[Anonymous No.12554863]

>>12554848
when you feel froggy you go ahead and jump friendo. Let me give you a little wisdom little man, people who go looking for trouble are never a match for people waiting for it.

[Anonymous No.12554921]

>>12550089
>STEP 1: race depends on who breeds with who.
>STEP 2: IQ correlates strongly with succes.
> STEP 3: Having a society of succesfull productive people is a good thing.
>STEP 4: ????
>STEP 5: PROFIT

[Anonymous No.12555013]

>>12554863
this board doesn't seem your speed,
might I suggest >>>/pol/?

[Anonymous No.12555034]

>>12555013
you can suggest giving me a hand job and reach around bunker tranny

[Anonymous No.12555042]

>>12553508
>eugenics
what problem lmao
>>12555034
>u r a tranny
That's funny anon, but I think you'd have more fun over in >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.12555060]

It's an ego rub to insecure People of any race.

[Anonymous No.12555639]

>>12554165
nothing he said in his post was unreasonable or untrue and this is how you people respond
>Biden will be your president.
Do you think these are reasonable people OP? Do you think these people can be trusted with power over anyone? These are very sick individuals, sociopaths and psychopaths.

They are smacking their gums and licking their chops thinking of a time when they are given power over people to abuse. You already know the truth of it, you see them on faceberg, tumblr, redit, twatter ad nauseam banning everyone that exposes for them for they really are and what they are really doing. These are some very sick puppies. The kind authoritarians love to give power over people specifically because they know how sick and demented they are. NPC with a fetish for degenarcy and sadism

[Anonymous No.12555646]

>>12550089
If there is a solid relationship between IQ and race, then policies related to race will directly impact national/global IQ. You must be retarded.

[Anonymous No.12556102]

>>12550089
Asians and whites are the real victims of institutional racist policy.
Acknowledging the race-IQ relationship is the first step towards true justice.

[Anonymous No.12556223]

>>12550089
Importing brown people -> shit country for normies and freedom to get away with anything for elites. End of story. Liberal elites know that the IQ gap is real, substantive, and genetic, and that's why they import brown people to nullify potential threats against their stranglehold. Only normie fucktards are in denial about any of these aspects of the IQ gap. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg privately have the same beliefs about the IQ gap as Jared Taylor.

[Anonymous No.12556324]

>>12556223
You're forgetting that they can use these genetic differences in ability as a club to beat people with by claiming they achieved it via deceit by claiming everyone is equal.

[Anonymous No.12556342]

>>12556324
Yup, that necessarily has to happen since otherwise the jig would be up, so it's even shittier for people who got good IQ genes and aren't part of the elite.

[Anonymous No.12556379]

>>12550089
Honest answer: because even if your goal is a system that treats all people as being equally worthy of respect and human rights, ignoring IQ differences ribs you of the ability to make sensible policy decisions. Today, any sign of disparity between races is tested as evidence of systematic discrimination, which must then be corrected through racially-targetted affirmative action. However, if you recognize racial IQ differences, the disparities are far less surprising and generally indicate that a truly meritocratic standard is already being met.
For example, very few blacks graduate from medical school. If you go in with the assumption that all races are equal, this can only be the result of discrimination, and therefore medical schools should be encouraged (or even required) to admit more black applicants. If you accept that there MAY (not even necessarily that there are, just that there may) be differences in intelligence along racial lines, then the "solution" is far from obvious. There may not even be a true problem, and different acceptance rates are just a reflection of different intelligence.

[Anonymous No.12556457]

IQ is what lazy twats use to make themselves feel better

[Anonymous No.12556587]

>>12556457
This is a tiny fraction of the bad things IQ is used for. The most prominent vice that IQ is used for is importing complacent people to get away with everything.

[White Logic No.12556746]

>>12551057
> According to the U.S Justice Department, in 2006, 32,443 women of Caucasian origin were raped by men of African origin.

Wrong.
Source: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

Number of rape arrests, blacks: 5376
Number of rape arrests, white: 12794

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus06.pdf
Table 42:
% white women raped by black offenders: 16.7%
% white women raped by white offenders:
50.6%

It looks like whites are 3x more likely to be rapists than blacks.

And yet the black jogger gets the shotgun.

[Anonymous No.12556771]

>>12556379
This.

Though I'd say the mental differences between men and women are more obvious and more consequential. Racial differences can eventually (though not necessarily desirably) be solved by mixing into a new composite race, or just enough so that people don't care/notice. Failure to understand the differences between men and women is quite genuinely eroding society.

[Anonymous No.12556812]

We should wipe sub saharans completely off the Earth and turn Africa into a massive nature preserve.

I suppose American and Carribean blacks can stay though.

[Anonymous No.12556830]

>>12556746
>It looks like whites are 3x more likely to be rapists than blacks.
There are between 4 to 5 times as many whites as blacks in the US.
So even by that metric, the average white only rapes 75% to 80% as much as the average black.

[White Logic No.12556865]

>>12556830
> the average white only rapes 75% to 80% as much as the average black.
Do they? Or is a black man more likely to be convicted by a jury made up of whites?

[Anonymous No.12556893]

>>12551514
this is what no gf does to a mf

[Anonymous No.12556902]

>>12550089
it doesn't. minorities are only dumber because of historical issues stemming from colonization, geography and socioeconomic circumstances, the latter of which are the issue post-globalization until today, and that's slowly changing

Race alone does not dictate intelligence, racial science is outdated and race is a social construct

people on 4chan telling you niggers this, niggers that are just bitter and misguided versions that never met the myriad of white trash methheads living in America

you're 100% right in asking that question OP, please never lose that valuable sense of objectivity, and don't listen to racist spergs ITT

[Anonymous No.12556906]

>>12556902
virgins* not versions

[Anonymous No.12557078]

>>12556902
Every control on these things shows that they don't affect IQ.

[Anonymous No.12557847]

>>12550089
There is a thread about what's causing blue balls right now i ncatalog. Do you ask this question in there? Do you ask this question about any other topic? Or you limit this to race and IQ exclusively.
If so, why?

[Anonymous No.12557861]

>>12550089
>Why am I supposed to care about the relationship of race and IQ?
You should care because racial IQ gap explains all of racial inequality that exists in a society. Inequality which leftists attribute to racism and oppression. And their way of countering that is to set up racial quotas for blacks in universities and job market. Which inevitably leads to discrimination against whites and asians.
If people were aware that some races are more intelligent than others and that the unequal outcomes that we observe are completely natural this discrimination wouldn't be happening.

So the reason why you should care about that(and get others to care about that) is that leftists would stop punishing high IQ races because blacks have shitty genes.

[Anonymous No.12557864]

>>12552181
nope

[Anonymous No.12557876]

>>12556746
>It looks like whites are 3x more likely to be rapists than blacks.
It looks like you have no idea how to interpret statistics. Blacks are 13% of population and 16.7% of rapists. Whites are 62% of population and 50.6% of rapists. This means blacks are over-represented among rapists and whites are underrepresented.

>>12556865
>Do they? Or is a black man more likely to be convicted by a jury made up of whites?
Sorry. White juries are not biased.
> Mitchell et al. (2005) analyzed data from 34 studies in which people acted as jurors and voted on whether a given defendant was guilty. It was found that whites exhibit nearly no racial bias in such decisions while black people exhibit an in-group bias that is 15 times larger than the minuscule bias seen among whites.

[Anonymous No.12557880]

>>12553219
>How does the conversation benefit humanity?
I wonder, do you ask this about all scientific questions or only those that make you uncomfortable?

[Anonymous No.12557881]

>>12550092
sure, if that's what you need to tell yourself to cope with your borderline mongoloidic iq score go ahead. fucking brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12557882]

>>12554165
Bernie lost.
Your student debt is not getting canceled.
And your rent is due.

[Anonymous No.12557885]

>>12550089
sure black people are stupid
but they have on average greater intelligence for nature and rhytm
Its almost as if every race has its pros and cons
Its almost as if in the long run this shit doesnt matter and all and if we want to colonise space we will all have to change for the better anyway

[Anonymous No.12557888]

>>12554189
This doesn't make any sense. Why would someone need to to justify their hatred? If someone hates blacks then it is likely for some reason. He does not need some other reason to justify it.

[Anonymous No.12557892]

>>12550092
cope
https://twitter.com/JelteWicherts/status/336501671624577026

[Anonymous No.12557896]

>>12556223
What brown people? Italians are already in America
Asians? Already in and have higher IQs than whites
Jews? Already in and have higher IQs
The most blue eyed nation in the world at 90mil individuals is Russia and it's not so rich

[Anonymous No.12557899]

>>12557861
these people might be stupid yes
but dont downlplay the racism argument

Women would also probably be much more smarter on average today if men didnt use women as punching bags for like all of history

But the details are not important - the solution is

Also if the high IQ races are smarter than all these stupid fucks that are given quotas - how are they in danger at all ?

I dont want to have a doctor that is stupid sure - but gating communities and services off from people because they are stupid - is also anti progress

Because you either kill them all to purify the gene pool - or you help them step up their game
I kinda dont wanna kill anyone so i recommend you shut the fuck up and help these poeple

The sooner we sort out stupid people - the sooner well get rid of these stupid quotas

[Anonymous No.12557900]

>>12556812
African blacks are better than American blacks

[Anonymous No.12557903]

>>12557896
Also forgot to mention Italians have higher IQs than white people

[Anonymous No.12557905]

>>12557899
And everytime i read somehting like - kill all stupid people

All i read is :
Im to selfish and self absorbed to actually do anything usefull so im just gonna hope someone else is gonna use violence to solve my problem of not helping anyone out and crying - its a shitty world were all doomed no one wants to kill stupid black people

[Anonymous No.12557937]

>>12557899
>Women would also probably be much more smarter on average today if men didnt use women as punching bags for like all of history
Both premise and conclusion of this statement is wrong. Women were not used as "punching bags" whatever that metaphor was for. Women were happier in 1950s than now. Look up paradox of declining female happiness. And even if somehow it was true, it would not decrease their intelligence.

>Also if the high IQ races are smarter than all these stupid fucks that are given quotas - how are they in danger at all ?
>I dont want to have a doctor that is stupid sure - but gating communities and services off from people because they are stupid - is also anti progress
I'm not saying they should be gated from attending universities, just that admissions should be based on merit only. And if that means there will be only 0.001% blacks in Harvard... Oh well.
And if you don't stupid doctors, then you should want the same. See pic.

>Because you either kill them all to purify the gene pool
How did you came to this binary choice? How did you concluded that "either it will be my way or genocide will happen" are the only options?

> - or you help them step up their game
We've been helping step up their game for decades and to no success. Black IQ is same as in 1918, racial inequality as rampant as ever. Funnily enough, when affirmative action was first introduced, the proponents were arguing that it will only take one generation of AA for blacks to achieve racial equality and then it can be safely abolished. It seems funny now but that's what people were believing back then. They were a lot like you except their ignorance could be excused somewhat.
So I ask you, how long will we be stepping up their game at the expense of more talented people?

[Anonymous No.12557942]

>>12557903
The IQ in Sicily is 89

[Anonymous No.12557948]

>>12557942
Sicily is a small part of Italy
Italy as a whole has 104 IQ, that's higher than any white nation (Finland is Asian)
And even north Italians are brown as hell

[Anonymous No.12557950]

>>12557948
>Italy as a whole has 104 IQ
Only North Italy has 102 IQ. And they are basically white.

[Anonymous No.12557984]

>>12556746
>in this post a moron who doesnt understand 7th grade level math concepts such as per capita
>on the science and math board
As always leftards show why they are stupid, unreliable, liars and should never be trusted about anything as was clearly espoused in multiple posts in this thread in detail

[Anonymous No.12557986]

Equality is a myth

[Anonymous No.12558000]

>>12557900
Nah. You only see the very top percentage of African blacks who enter the west. Remember Africa as a whole has a population more than North America and Europe combined. With a population that large no matter how shifted back their IQ averages are, no matter how thin their tails are at 130 range, they'll always have at least some "higher" performers who inevitably make it to the west.

In reality the average African is more stupid than the average American black, it's just the latter's population is extremely tiny in comparison.

[Anonymous No.12558018]

>>12557950
How are they basically white? They are statistically brown eyed and haired nothing white about it

[Anonymous No.12558019]

>>12558000
I meant it more in terms of American blacks being more criminal than African ones
Like look at Ethiopians, they never got colonized while if American blacks made a country it would get colonized by native Americans let alone some real races

[Anonymous No.12558024]

>>12558018
They are the whites part of Italy. With prevalence of light eyes between 20 - 50%. Same as Ukraine. Are they not white either?

[Anonymous No.12558031]

>>12558024
Slavs are not white that's kinda obvious
Also find me an Italian like this Ukrainian whore, it's basically impossible

[Anonymous No.12558036]

>>12550089
Because 3rd worlders are the smartest. Seethe whitoids.

[Anonymous No.12558038]

>>12552103
>No one on their side may give a shit that you betrayed your own people to give away their birthright and nation that their forefathers left for them to hostile invaders

This, all these people care about is race, they never shut up about it. They only care about it within their narrative however. As long race can be used by them to further their agenda they will never shut up about it but as soon as whites use it to debunk and expose their agenda they are labeled as racist. The (((left))) started all of this, they are the ones that drew the line in the sand and wrote the rules of the game to only favor themselves. Diversity and anti-racism is a thinly veiled code for anti-white

[Anonymous No.12558044]

Hot take : IQ is real, it doesn't matter, Africans don't have as low of an IQ as you think. There's a genetic gap but small. If a single standard deviation is justification for oppressing an entire race of people it's justification for hardcore eugenics against everyone of any race with that IQ.

[Anonymous No.12558049]

>>12558038
This whole post is all word of mouth. The left is not one person, and there isn't one person who speaks for all of us.

[Anonymous No.12558052]

>>12558031
>Slavs are not white that's kinda obvious
uh okay

>Also find me an Italian like this Ukrainian whore, it's basically impossible
What does it matter if I can find her? You saw the prevalence of light eyes is the same.

[Anonymous No.12558054]

>>12558044
>If a single standard deviation is justification for oppressing an entire race of people
Who said anything about oppressing people?

[Anonymous No.12558058]

>>12558054
Do you have any evidence that it's not invariably where white people go when racial inferiority is at the forefront of cultural consciousness?

[Anonymous No.12558060]

>>12558058
Can you answer my question?

[Anonymous No.12558061]

>>12558052
I'm saying it's a meme map, Ukrainians might have a lot of Asian genes but they sure as hell aren't as brown as northern Italians
Or the map is not a meme map and northern Italians are 20% white while Ukrainians are 50% white on your meme map

[Anonymous No.12558063]

>>12558061
49*
And again it's besides the point Slavs aren't white and Italians neither

[Anonymous No.12558064]

>>12558061
What evidence do you have that Northen Italians are even brown? Aside from cherrypicked images you saw on /pol/.

[Anonymous No.12558068]

>>12558060
>I'll be intellectually dishonest and pretend Slavery, Jim Crow, and WW2 didn't happen

[Anonymous No.12558073]

>>12558064
Meme maps just like yours

[Anonymous No.12558075]

>>12558068
If I am being intellectually dishonest why don't you lead by example and answer my question honestly without dodging?

[Anonymous No.12558077]

>>12558073
Care to share them with me?

[Anonymous No.12558079]

Because if we could admit that niggers are on average dumber and there's nothing we can do about it environmentally, then we can stop throwing good money after bad at them.

If we didn't have to babysit monkeys, we'd be colonizing Mars in 10 years

[Anonymous No.12558082]

>>12558068
What evidence so you have that slavery, Jim Crow, and WW2 happened because of IQ?

[Anonymous No.12558085]

>>12558049
stfu you monkey brained simpleton, you are a child in a mans world playing checkers in a chess game. stfu when grown folks are talking you are nothing but a useful idiot no one gives a fuck what you have to say about anything

[Anonymous No.12558087]

>>12558077
Yours for example says they're about 20-25% white and I agree with that

[Anonymous No.12558089]

>>12558085
Thanks for biting on my bait.

[Anonymous No.12558090]

>>12558068
>The entire gap is due to a few hundred years of oppression and racism

>The 70,000 years of divergence in wildly different environments had nothing to do with it

>Why were whites able to so effectively oppress them in the first place?

[Anonymous No.12558093]

>>12558087
Mine says they have 20-49% light eyes. If that is you criteria for whiteness than how come slavs aren't white?

[Anonymous No.12558095]

>>12558089
>I was only pretending to be retarded

[Anonymous No.12558098]

>>12558049
Why do you see these them arguments and behaviors everywhere, across all western nation then ? I see it absolutely everywhere even though I didn't look for it. The only sensible explanation I can see is that it's a genetic predisposition to pathological altruism in western white people. The good news is that it's only a matter of time before the genes that cause this get need out in this globalised racial economic competition. The bad news is that all the races will fight each other. Good news though is that east Asians will probably win as they don't seem to have this pathological altruism and look only for their own interest, and also have pretty good IQ.

[Anonymous No.12558097]

>>12558095
Yes!

[Anonymous No.12558101]

>>12558068
Nazis were against IQ testing.

[Anonymous No.12558102]

>>12558090
Racists are low IQ, makes sense they don't know how to read

[Anonymous No.12558103]

>>12558102
>Racists are low IQ

So first of all, you're admitting that IQ tests are accurate

[Anonymous No.12558104]

>>12558093
Mate are you kidding me? 90% of Italy is painted in the 1-19% range and you think some small part is suddenly 49%range?
You're ridiculous, central and northern Italians don't differ that much (and it's not like it matters, Alp Italians are few in number)
Slavs aren't white because they fit every definition of POC, slaves, colonized, holocausted, non white genes (Asian in this case, poor, ...)

[Anonymous No.12558109]

>>12558103
Keep digging that hole.
Protip: You can click on post numbers to follow the reply chain

[Anonymous No.12558110]

>>12558090
Whites were oppressed in the past as well
Whites had much bigger numbers than Africans when they colonised them and they had guns first

[Anonymous No.12558111]

>>12558109
You are both digging because you are 2 low emotional control Retards. You should stop.

[Anonymous No.12558112]

>>12558109
You mean the part where you/they claimed the genetic gap was small and I responded accordingly by pointing out that the idea that a few hundred years of racism being responsible for the gap while evolutionary divergence for 1/3 the time modern humans have existed playing no role is retarded?

[Anonymous No.12558116]

>>12558110
>They had guns first

Was that an accident? Did the ancestors of Eurasians just move north out of Africa and find gun trees with muskets growing on them?

[Anonymous No.12558120]

>>12558112
Where did I say a few hundred years of racism was responsible for the entirety of the gap, retard?

[Anonymous No.12558124]

>>12558116
>Was that an accident?
Quite literally yes.
Otherwise you can't explain Asians having the technology for longer but never focusing on guns as much as europids

[Anonymous No.12558125]

>>12558079
More money for Israel you mean

[Anonymous No.12558127]

>>12558116
Basically yeah
Conditions for agriculture are bad in Africa which is why the scum of scum in Africa had to leave and voilà white people
White people are refugees from Africa

[Anonymous No.12558131]

>>12558120
>>I'll be intellectually dishonest and pretend Slavery, Jim Crow, and WW2 didn't happen
>>12558124
>>12558127
So inventions take zero intelligence and are entirely luck?

>Conditions for agriculture are bad in Africa

Lol, no. That's a retarded myth. YPIPO moved back to Africa and flourished

[Anonymous No.12558134]

>>12558124
It's just because Europeans are blood thirsty neanderthals, the only reason Asians are bigger in number even though they're much more K selected is all the wars and crime Europeans did to each other which in turn made them develop weapons and then they spread that sickness over the world

[Anonymous No.12558135]

>>12558104
>Mate are you kidding me? 90% of Italy is painted in the 1-19% range and you think some small part is suddenly 49%range?
Pigmentation of humans depends on latitude, not what arbitrary political boundaries humans established. Italians in the north are lighter than those in Sicily. This is ust a fact. I don't know why you have such troubles accepting it.

>central and northern Italians don't differ that much
And you judge this from your experience of looking at cherrypicked photos on /pol/?

>(and it's not like it matters, Alp Italians are few in number)
This is completely irrelevant to our discussion

>Slavs aren't white because they fit every definition of POC, slaves, colonized, holocausted, non white genes (Asian in this case, poor, ...)
huh, I thought race is defined by genetic make up, not historical circumstances. I'm becoming more enlightened in each passing day.

[Anonymous No.12558138]

>>12558102
wtf I though IQ is meaningless?? Which is it leftybros??!!?

[Anonymous No.12558140]

>>12558138
It's whatever they need it to be

That's why they make the best useful idiots

[Anonymous No.12558144]

>>12558127
>Conditions for agriculture are bad in Africa
not really. Seems like that people inhabiting Africa are just stupid. Who on earth would have guessed?
https://www.globalpolicy.org/social-and-economic-policy/world-hunger/general-analysis-on-hunger/52042-how-africa-could-feed-the-world.html

[Anonymous No.12558146]

>>12558131
Reread the thread until you get it. That particular topic wasn't about IQ differences but what happens when racialism is considered culturally important.
>So inventions take zero intelligence and are entirely luck?
If white people are so smart why didn't they invent guns themselves?

[Anonymous No.12558147]

>>12558058
rofl @ this
>please respond to my unfounded fear mongering, metal illness and paranoia

This is basically like saying can you prove to me you aren't a pedophile before I let you babysit my children.

The only response is: No I won't validate your absurd and irrational claims. You are insane, and you need therapy and meds. Seriously, get fukt you fucking schizo

[Anonymous No.12558149]

>>12558146
You lost, get over it

[Anonymous No.12558152]

>>12558146
>If white people are so smart why didn't they invent guns themselves?
Holy fuck, this statement must the apex of leftists retardation

[Anonymous No.12558153]

>>12558135
Ah yes northern Italy is 49% white region basically Siberia while central Italy is middle East 1% shithole
Are you retarded?
Also by your own map latitude isn't all that important when Bosnia and Croatia are Mediterranean countries
Genetic makeup of Slavic countries is close to but not equal to that of Germanic countries proving them not white

[Anonymous No.12558155]

>>12558153
>Ah yes northern Italy is 49% white region basically Siberia while central Italy is middle East 1% shithole
Who are you quoting?

>Genetic makeup of Slavic countries is close to but not equal to that of Germanic countries proving them not white
uh okay, so it is genetic makeup after all. It's hard to keep track with you.

[Anonymous No.12558156]

>>12558152
lol why are you dodging the question?
Why were eurangatans chucking spears at each other in mud huts while China had cannons and rockets?
Answer: because creativity isn't deterministic

[Anonymous No.12558159]

>>12558058
>random buzzwords
You must be at least 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.12558166]

>>12558147
>can you prove to me that white people defending themselves against baseless and violent racial attacks, disenfranchisement and having an in group preference like every other ethnicity and people in the world won't hurt my interests while I tacitly or openly condone all of this

[Anonymous No.12558168]

>>12558156
>Why were eurangatans chucking spears at each other in mud huts while China had cannons and rockets?
>Answer: because creativity isn't deterministic
I take that back. This is the apex of leftist retardation.

[Anonymous No.12558170]

>>12558155
I'm quoting you nigga it seems like you think there's some large difference between northern and central Italians which is ridiculous
It's both genetic makeup and a social construct in terms of history
Slavs aren't white, the only question is are they whiter than meds which they probably are, even Frogs the lightest meds are brown as hell

[Anonymous No.12558174]

>>12558166
>condone denying them all of this

typos

[Anonymous No.12558176]

>>12558170
>I'm quoting you nigga it seems like you think there's some large difference between northern and central Italians which is ridiculous
I am saying there is difference between northern and southern Italians in terms of pigmentation. Which you are yet to disprove. You are the only here who ever brought up central Italians.

[Anonymous No.12558177]

>>12558168
Where's all the modern mozarts and bachs despite the same genetic stock existing right now?
Hmm...

[Anonymous No.12558182]

>>12558176
There's a difference yes
Of about 5-10% max which still makes northern Italians brown as shit

[Anonymous No.12558184]

>Where's all the modern mozarts and bachs despite the same genetic stock existing right now?
>Hmm...

[Anonymous No.12558185]

>>12558177

[Anonymous No.12558187]

>>12558184
they exist, but mozart and bach has already done it so theres no point for them to become composers or for anyone to listen to them

[Anonymous No.12558188]

>>12558182
5-10% of what? And how did you arrive at this estimate anyway?

[Anonymous No.12558190]

>>12558134
Asians are K selected because they are crowded not the opposite. In crowded environnements making a lot of offspring is useless while making higher quality more competitive offspring is useful.

[Anonymous No.12558196]

>>12558188
Nigga do you seriously think central Italians are 15% light eyed while northern Italians are 35%? That's insane
I arrived at this estimate by fucking common sense, these people live in similar climates in the same country ffs

[Anonymous No.12558200]

>>12554788
You can't fail an IQ test you mongoloid.

An IQ test is to measure your IQ, it can be a high or low number, but the result always will be number. Saying someone 'failed' an IQ test just means you have a standard of how high that number has to be.

[Anonymous No.12558206]

>>12558187
>It's already been done!
That's not how art works at all.
Also, where's the asian equivalents?
Asians have slightly higher IQ than whites so they should be producing classics as well.

[Anonymous No.12558209]

>>12558146
We already know what happens when racialism is considered culturally important, because leftists are racialists who create racialists laws and institutions to promote certain skin color and harm others. And leftists are in power.

[Anonymous No.12558216]

>>12558156
The answer: Low hanging fruit.

Same reason crude metal forging was first done in Africa, or how the Arabs invented algebra.

In fact, those cultures are only lauded for those inventions because that's their limit. i.e. you're only worshiping China for gunpowder because that's the only achievement they have. You don't see people worshiping the white man for airflight, the steam engine, evolutionary biology and medicine, and so forth. Why? Because some crude experiments performed in 1700 don't count for shit, they were low hanging fruit. Modern innovation is what matters.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Innovation_Index
Notice how the US, Sweden and the Netherlands are right there next to Japan and Korea. Of course, after Japan and Korea the next asian country is India, 10 spots down.

[Anonymous No.12558228]

>>12558216
Scientists and innovators in the past were much more impressive people than those of today
China has so much more inventions than just gunpowder
And most of USA's scientists are Asians, Sweden is basically golden age of Islam born again

[Anonymous No.12558238]

>>12558182
Idk if trolling or retarded. Everyone who clusters genetically among Europeans is "white" (so yes, by this definition one who is not "pure" for example by having one non white grandparent would most likely be considered white).
Then you can make additional distinctions like northwestern European, south european etc. but whiteness is not determined by eye color or skin paleness.

[Anonymous No.12558241]

>>12558228
>most of USA's scientists are Asians
I think you mean Jews. Also they count as white, despite what natsoc retards want to believe.

>Sweden is basically golden age of Islam born again
lmao

[Anonymous No.12558285]

>>12558238
So white isn't about being blue eyed? That's ridiculous, nonwhites have brown eyes as well

[Anonymous No.12558287]

>>12558241
Jews are not white, they're much better than that

[Anonymous No.12558291]

>>12558287
They're mutts.

[Anonymous No.12558301]

[Anonymous No.12558302]

>>12550094
it's funny because the opposite is true. by ignoring the truth, the IQ difference, the answer to "why are africans doing poorly" becomes "because white people are evil and keep them down", and you have created more division.

americans ignore IQ differences, so they make school less challenging for everyone so that the african-americans can pass, and give people jobs they aren't the best qualified to do because of the race. meanwhile china does the opposite, which is why america is about to get is ass kicked, because they can't handle the truth.

some people have said talking about IQ is only done by people who want to use IQ as a reason to genocide people. whereas in the real world the jews were genocided because they were smart and successful, not dumb and useless.

[Anonymous No.12558310]

>>12550089
>Truth is double-plus ungood.

[Anonymous No.12558312]

>>12558287
>>12558241
>womp womp

[Anonymous No.12558319]

>>12556771
>Racial differences can eventually (though not necessarily desirably) be solved by mixing into a new composite race, or just enough so that people don't care/notice
How very jewish of you to instantly want to mix everyone up. No, the races can just separate from each other

[Anonymous No.12558381]

>>12558312
>a bunch of caricatures
yeah I'm sure to take that text seriously

[Anonymous No.12558416]

ITT: you can how literally every race on the planet fears white unity and racial consciousness thereby exposing the fact that they concede that aryans are indeed the master race that can oppress them or even wipe them entirely off the map should they ever desire to do so

[Anonymous No.12558423]

>>12558416
*you can see

[Anonymous No.12558454]

>>12558416
Slavs all divided with many of them being the best soldiers for Nazis managed to beat Nazis all alone (80% of Nazis died on the eastern front)
If Slavs can do it imagine them having other allies
Not to mention the last time Turks and Arabs and Japs were Nazi allies
Slavs beat them all

[Anonymous No.12558458]

>>12558454
It's just clear that you cannot win a land war against Slavs (unless you yourself are Slavic)
They're slowly taking over Europe and white man's land, it's over for Aryans

[Anonymous No.12558497]

>>12558454
this is so hilarious and historically illiterate it borders on criminal. Japan being 1/100th the size of Russia has whipped them in every single war they ever fought in and germany absolutely destroyed them in a blitzkrieg that took over half the country within weeks and we're only stopped by the brutal winter conditions in stalingrad. besides slavs are aryans anyway and part of white consciousness you nonce faggot. they are swedes, Russia was founded by the kievan Russ swedes

[Anonymous No.12558555]

>>12558497
Japan has a larger population than Russia and has always lost land to Russia, that's why they surrendered in WW2
Stalingrad has warmer sunnier winters than Germany are you seriously doing the Russia winter Reddit meme?
Slavs are not white, they are literally the biggest enemy of white people

[Anonymous No.12558571]

>>12558555
>when you don't know wtf you are talking about just call the person who does reddit
just stop

[Anonymous No.12558598]

>>12558571
Nigger Stalingrad is near a warm sea
Germany doesn't even have a warm sea
There's absolutely no way germans weren't prepared for winter because that would mean those monkeys can't even prepare for their own winters
Which might be true so they lash out at Slavs and then lose land

[Anonymous No.12558620]

>>12558598
just stop

[Anonymous No.12558740]

>>12551057
>So what if all blacks were to... suddenly... disappear from the U.S.?
The US prison industrial complex would stop being able to sell compelled labour to companies to make goods for cheap, ruining the US economy and making crackas pay more for products. Maybe these things are connected and if the police stop hunting blacks to throw in jail for 5 year mandatory sentencing for possessing small amounts of weed, so their labour can be exploited, the decimation and resulting crime of black communities will stop also?

[Anonymous No.12558777]

>>12550092
I guess you better dismiss all the relevance of the social sciences then because IQ is the persistently the highest predictor of basically every quality of life related outcome and the next metric isn't even close.

[Anonymous No.12558790]

>>12558777
Citation needed!

[Anonymous No.12558824]

>>12558740

[Anonymous No.12558843]

>>12558156
genes change. China 1000 years ago is not china today. Europe 1000 years ago is not europe today.

You had high selection pressure in europe from 400 -1700 ad, due to more variable climate, but in a predictable fashion - plus a high enough population to cause serious group selection, plus manoralism which enforced selection for individualism and low criminality.

You can spout bs that 'creativity isn't deterministic', but in reality, the modern world was invented by a handful of north western europeans about 500 years ago. The fact that china could cast bronze and make gunpowder does not change this fact. If china had canons why didn't they go on to make guns, experiment with other explosives. Experiment with controlled explosives to create...engines, bombs, rockets?

>china made some canons which means all creativity is some random process
Are you actually retarded?

[Anonymous No.12558849]

>>12558156
I think this boils down to the fact you dont understand the enormity of the industrial revolution in a historical context, because you are literally indoctrinated.

[Anonymous No.12558852]

>>12558790
your fingers broke? didn't teach you how to use jewgle in skool?

[Anonymous No.12558862]

>>12558852
I'm glad that you're willing to admit that race and iq is a big sham.

[Anonymous No.12558877]

>>12558862
not the guy you were talking to bud nice display of leftist tactics however

[Anonymous No.12558887]

>>12558824
>thinks its a conspiracy theory that US states try to get as many black people in jail as possible
>is talking about a country where a confederacy was formed by southern states whose economy relied on slavery, and was only forced to give it up by an invading force, and he thinks they didn't do everything they could to keep a slavery-like system in place with predatory laws and prison labour to keep the economy in the same shape
>thinks a country where races were segregated until 1964 and pro-slavery forces and the KKK had significant political influence, does not have intentional decimation of black communities

[Anonymous No.12558892]

>>12558887
>Wall of green text

[Anonymous No.12558898]

>>12558740
Deporting blacks back to africa would also reduce crime of black communities in america.

If americans treat you so bad why do you want to intergrate INTO their society. Historically any other people who feel oppressed want to SEGREGATE from their oppressors.

>Be serbian
Oh those austrians sure are nasty too us, they need to integrate us into their society. Im fed up with austrian oppression, we need to assimilate faster. These damn austrians shooting are kids, if only they taught our history to their children!

See how retarded that sounds.

Take another example

>Be ireland after potato famine
Oh these damn english, starving us to death. If only they were more accepting of us. They need to integrate us into their society! The UK should have irish people everywhere, that way our people will be looked upon more fondly.

>Be poland in 1940
Oh these germans, literally rounding us up in a mass genocide. They need to be more RESPECTING of OUR culture so that we can integrate into german life. Can't the germans and polish just get along, it is 1940 afterall! The germans should let us into their cities, parliaments and governments because they are oppressing us.

Separation is peace.

[Anonymous No.12558902]

>>12558887
>when people call you a conspiracy theorist so you double down on conspiracy theories to prove them wrong
mfw

[Anonymous No.12558937]

>>12558887
>US tries to get as many black people in jail as possible
Not according to FBI crime statistics

>there was a confederacy, which was a slave state
Like literally all the slave states in africa they literally bought their slaves from? Generally run by africans...
Salvery was actually an economic disadvantage for the south...which is why the north is more developed

>Races were segregated
Yeah, every city also had a black business district and stock exchange. segregation worked better than integration. Integration destroyed black jobs, communities and education.

Segregation is the norm of human history, you expect some 60s hippies to change that?

>Muh KKK
Oh yes there are no black equivalents of such groups. South Africa. Zimbabwe. RIng any bells?

>Intentional decimation
By income, whites are a net contributor to US economy of about 200 bn a year, if you assign all military spending to whites.

Blacks are a net drain of 600 bn a year. So it looks like whites are being used to prop up blacks standard of living.

[Anonymous No.12558966]

>>12558937
>talking about south africa, zimbabwe or slave trading in medieval africa when I'm discussing race relations in the US
ok retard

[Anonymous No.12559020]

>>12558966
Im saying such groups are normal when you bring 2 races into contact. Retard.

Also no, the transatlantic slave trade was like 5% of what was going on internally in africa. Slaves in america would have been slaves in africa or middle east anyway. The ones who got to america were lucky.

[Anonymous No.12559282]

>>12558887
I lol at how the left spread these crazy jewlywood memes as fact. The KKK was never an oppressive force. They didnt just go out and actively oppress black people lol. In fact they were founded as an esoteric organization started by the freemason Albert Pike to be a policing organization of vigilantes in a war torn and destroyed south after the civil war because there were no police organizations after Sherman burned everything down.

Yes you see kkk photos of them lynching blacks but they didnt just fucking do it random for lolz they were criminals. You can look up their founding documents where it had their charter and mission statement. They were actually pretty fucking based not even trolling or memeing

[Anonymous No.12559382]

>>12558937
>Yeah, every city also had a black business district and stock exchange. segregation worked better than integration

Bingo. They had their own identity and more importantly than anything, everyone was learning and competing at the same rate. You throw the races together and tell them by some egalitarian magic that they are now all equal they're going to be very disappointed when they realize they aren't. Instead, time and resources are wasted trying to explain to them the concepts facts and figures that come naturally to whites and asians while the latter are being held back as teachers basically become babysitters at this point.

[Anonymous No.12559450]

>>12559282
same anon from here

These are the KKK founding documents and creed. As I said they were pretty based. If you support what the Black Panthers did then you have to support the KKK and vice versa. Personally I am a fan of the black panthers and malcolm x and think they were perfectly justified in their movement. Loving and protecting your own people on no way implies contempt or hate for another race. If you are threatened as a non white as by organization (and can provide objective proof of it not just make shit up like BLM) then you have my every blessing to defend yourself and your people but don't a fucking hypocrite because what goes around comes around and the left are nothing but a bunch of lying, criminal, grifting, violent and opressive hypocrites.

[Anonymous No.12559504]

>>12550089
I haven't read the thread but let me guess
>racist comment
>lewontins fallacy
>metaphysical retardation about IQ
>racist graphs
>"but races don't even make sense as, like, a thing"

[Anonymous No.12559553]

>>12559504
haven't even read your comment but let me guess. you swallow gallons of semen

[Anonymous No.12559610]

its only beneficial to acknowledge when you see that race and iq directly correspond to prison rates, other than that it doesn't really matter

[Anonymous No.12559724]

>>12559553
liters, amerimutt

[Anonymous No.12559767]

>>12558044
>There's a genetic gap but small
It may look small. But in reality 10 IQ points is a huge difference over the span of ones life.
>If a single standard deviation is justification for oppressing an entire race of people it's justification for hardcore eugenics against everyone of any race with that IQ.
Ironically enough, if people actually understood and accepted that some people have lower IQs, which makes it harder for them to adapt to society there would be more support for them. Remember how 30+ years ago everyone had a problem with people being gay? And then it was revealed that being gay was less of a persons choice and strongly rooted in biology. Look at how that changed even many conservative christans views on homosexuality.

If people actually understood that, some races are biologically disadvantaged they would actually be LESS racist towards those races and MORE accepting of creation of programs that lead to helping them get a more even hand. All that these """""progressive""" idiots are doing is making the problem worse in the long run.

[Anonymous No.12559768]

>>12558019
>American blacks being more criminal than African ones
Uhh anon, you obvious haven't been to Africa, or watched any documentary about Africa ever, or read any local news in Africa.

There were stories a while back about South African white farmers' houses getting broken into, all the people getting killed/raped. They weren't even doing it particularly because they were white farmers, it was just a thing that happens daily.
>https://www.news.com.au/world/africa/farmer-killings-farmers-tortured-and-killed-in-horrific-south-africa-raids/news-story/1aae3fe47328ada3b6a3d369675877df
>but although the number of farmers killed averages 75 a year
>Each day in South Africa an average of 60 people are murdered
60 people. a day. They kill each other about 300x as often as white farmers. Tell me how the fuck anything, ANYTHING American blacks have done can compare to this. Even the deadliest shooting, even the most lethal riot cannot even compare to 60 people a day, that's practically a small Midwestern town every year.

[Anonymous No.12560111]

America was an experiment is egalitarianism. We have the results now, it failed. All races are not equal and anyone trying to cover up this fact is doing so for nefarious reasons. We have the data and it is best to end the experiment now for all parties just like a marriage and cite irreconcilable differences

[Anonymous No.12560127]

>>12550089
it doesn’t
irregardless of any intelligence the human brain is still insanely powerful
determination you can succeed

[Anonymous No.12560387]

>>12557892
>twitter

[Anonymous No.12560872]

>>12558843
>>12558849
Do any of you have any evidence at all creativity IN THE CONTEXT OF TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT is deterministic?
>If china had canons why didn't they go on to make guns, experiment with other explosives. Experiment with controlled explosives to create...engines, bombs, rockets?
I'm asking you, you fucking retards.
Provide the mechanism why Chinese invented technology but they didn't develop it, while Europeans failed to invent that technology but did develop it.
The answer is obvious if you didn't have ideological stake in the answer: creativity isn't deterministic.
It's why you have metalworking independently invented all over Europe, Asia, and Africa, yet not in the Americas despite Americans having higher IQs than Africans.
It's why you never see the wheel invented in the Americas despite them having similar IQs to Europeans and Asians.

You can't just say "technological development is like a videogame where you traverse static technological nodes after development milestones and intellectual prerequisites are fulfilled". Provide. A. Mechanism. For. Your. Claim.

[Anonymous No.12561119]

>>12550089
blacks aren't the smartest tool in the shed but white supremacy is a cope.

[Anonymous No.12561360]

>>12560387
>he doesn't know who Wicherts is
yikes

[Anonymous No.12561450]

>>12557880
>I wonder, do you ask this about all scientific questions
Yes. I don't waste my time on things that are irrelevant. Especially when it runs the risk of dividing humanity and creating a few race war.

[Anonymous No.12561463]

>>12558310
>Truth is unimportant and thus doesn't isn't worth anyone's time
Anon, we use this logic for everything. Most people don't look up "how to make a bomb that can kill 300 people" on Google for this reason. It's also why most people don't ask "What's your IQ, name of your first cat and bank account number?" on the first date.

[Anonymous No.12561477]

>>12561450
>Yes. I don't waste my time on things that are irrelevant. Especially when it runs the risk of dividing humanity and creating a few race war

[Anonymous No.12561479]

>>12561450
>Especially when it runs the risk of dividing humanity and creating a few race war.
IQ testing has been a thing for over a century, how many race wars and divisions of humanity has it caused so far?

[Anonymous No.12561964]

>>12558302
yeah uh, this lacks nuance. africa is doing poorly because of all the countries that carved it out and stole its resources and enslaved its people. hard to overcome. if you raised black people in a white community with more money and less crime, they will perform equally to white/asian/latin peers. don't fall for that narrative. IQ is also useless in terms of measuring intelligence so there's that too

[Anonymous No.12561969]

>>12558902
read a history book this common knowledge and not a "theory"

[Anonymous No.12561974]

>>12558898
oh right deport then back to an entire continent who cares where just ship em off even tho their blood line was brought to the usa so long ago they have no cultural ties to their heritage. fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.12562213]

>>12561964
>africa is doing poorly because of all the countries that carved it out and stole its resources and enslaved its people.
Slavery in Africa existed long before contact with Europeans and colonization helped Africa economically, not the other way around.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w18162

> if you raised black people in a white community with more money and less crime, they will perform equally to white/asian/latin peers.
There are black people living in Britain, Canada and US and they underperform in all of these countries.

> IQ is also useless in terms of measuring intelligence so there's that too
No, IQ tests are valid measure of intelligence. Read https://www.amazon.com/IQ-Human-Intelligence-Nicholas-Mackintosh/dp/0199585598

[Anonymous No.12562216]

>>12561969
Then provide evidence for those statements

[Anonymous No.12562343]

>>12552103
I'm reading this and I'm wondering why the rest of us are supposed to have any sympathy or pity for whites. Modern Whites are the dumbest ethnicity to exist; they literally handed over their countries and imported populations to replace them. Are the rest of us supposed to look a gift horse in the mouth and NOT immigrate to Europe or Canada, etc? In my view, the decline of the white race is the human gene pool's way of purging the excess empathy that is present in that race. That empathy is not a good thing; it's a burden on humanity. The declining numbers of whites is simply the human species getting rid of a maladaptive trait.

>muh intelligence, muh IQ
You don't have 2+ kids per woman, what good is all of that doing you? In evolutionary terms, if traits mean your population is declining, it is a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.12563601]

>>12556865
idk, but that's moving the goal posts.
If we accept the data from >>12556746 without any strings attached, then whites are AT MOST 80% a rapey as blacks. (It's actually even less, because that figure assumes whites are only 60% and blacks are 15% to make the math easier. Blacks are actually 13% and whites vary up to 75%).
Funny how when one point is refuted, you seamlessly transition to an entirely different one as not to acknowledge defeat. Isn't there a word for that?

[Anonymous No.12564005]

>>12550089
If you lived anywhere near low-IQ people races you would be much more concerned with the safety of your fucking family than the benefit of humanity you sheltered faggot.

[Anonymous No.12564059]

>>12559768
Blacks in Detroit kill each other at a rate higher than any nation on earth, even higher than nations where almost ten percent of people are expected to be killed.

[Anonymous No.12564069]

>>12550089
Race as a concept has been debunked by science. Correlation is not causation.
Anyone saying otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about, and should be barred from academia and public office.

[Anonymous No.12564087]

>>12564069
And their social credit score set to 0 as well I presume?

[Anonymous No.12564093]

>>12564087
Lack of argument detected. Your concession status: accepted.

[Anonymous No.12564101]

>>12564087
Racists who hate China
>let’s give everybody a number based on a test that will decide their status and opportunities in society. It’s called IQ
Chinese authoritarians
>let’s give everybody a number based on their education and actions that will decide their status and opportunities in society. It’s called Social Credit

[Anonymous No.12564674]

>>12564101
The IQ of someone exists and will affect their life wheter you measure it or not.
It's only common sense to take that into account when making policies.

[Anonymous No.12564714]

>>12564101
>let’s give everybody a number based on a test that will decide their status and opportunities in society. It’s called IQ
It's not about giving it to them. They already have it. They were born with it, it was in their genes. This is nowhere near comparable to Chinese credit system and you should feel bad for equating the two

[Anonymous No.12564715]

>>12563601
yes gish galloping sophistry

[Anonymous No.12564721]

>>12561964
>yeah uh, this lacks nuance. africa is doing poorly because of all the countries that carved it out and stole its resources and enslaved its people

So africa is "doing poorly" because of africans. Yes we all knew that

[Anonymous No.12564722]

>>12558777
Imma need to see some evidence for that one, chief

[Anonymous No.12564724]

>>12564069
Race "doesn't exist" in the sense that there are not 5 or so rigid genetic groups that humans either 100% belong in or don't. That doesn't mean that genetic variations don't exist across humanity.
Just imagine a color spectrum, on the left it is completely blue, and on the right it is completely yellow, with everything in between being a gradual change from the one to the other. Just because you can't draw a line at one point splitting it into two arbitrary groups does not mean that the left side and the right side are both the same color.

[Anonymous No.12564729]

>>12558146
Absolutely brain dead redditor detected.

[Anonymous No.12564732]

>>12558044
Here it is folks, the fucking brain dead leftist that equates treating people equally and not giving them special privileges with oppressing them.

[Anonymous No.12564738]

>>12557885
>but they have on average greater intelligence for nature and rhytm
Lmao. You're retarded dude.

[Anonymous No.12564742]

>>12557078
That retard is too stupid to even know what you mean by that.

[Anonymous No.12564779]

>>12564101
>look mom I learned how to make an absurd strawman to try to derail a conversation on that anime forum I like

[Anonymous No.12564782]

>>12564069
womp womp, see you in the next thread where you try to push this lie after getting btfo'd for the 500th time

[Anonymous No.12564798]

>>12561450
>acknowledging something people who aren't literal droolers always knew will instead of lying about it and brainwashing unsuspecting retards will cause a race war
I can only assume absurd stawmanner is all one samefag. He is fine with whites getting attacked and being financially handicapped subsidizing brown and black families to increase their gang numbers to burn down what little whites will have left and violently target them because it will be a "mostly peaceful" affair and not an actual "war"

[Anonymous No.12565058]

>>12561964
>yeah uh, this lacks nuance.
pic related
>stole its resources
if I'm not wrong they still are the most resource-rich continent
>and enslaved its people
it was africans that enslaved other africans and sold on the coast to european traders
>if you raised black people in a white community with more money and less crime, they will perform equally to white/asian/latin peers.
no they won't, for the same reason as why asians don't perform equally to whites even if they tend to live outside the ghettos
>IQ is useless in measuring intelligence
pattern recognition is an important part of intelligence

[Anonymous No.12565174]

>>12564724
Genetic variation is higher within groups of supposed "races" than between them.
Race doesn't exist outside a social construct and nothing you said matters. Not sure the point you are trying to make but it's edging into racist arguments. If that wasn't your intent, then good.
>>12564782
All those studies are garbage and the entire argument presented is in bad faith (e.g. strawman abound). Feel free to take your cute little infographic to news media and in front of any biology and sociology board of your choice. They'll probably go into the nitty gritty of why it's all shit before they would strip you of academic credentials and justly so.
I, however, am not gonna waste time debunking that sophistry when I know you're not going to be convinced anyways.

If race existed then it'd be studied like anything else, no matter how controversial. I'm curious how people think academia is centered on "race doesn't exist" for any reason other than it being true? Usually there's some conspiracy theory underlying the racist ideas that proponents of bigotry are too chickenshit to say.

[Anonymous No.12565193]

>>12565058
Just a heads up, the moment you use a basedjak I immediately disregard the contents of your post. Not the person you're arguing with, but as a third party observer I think they're winning.

[Anonymous No.12565203]

>>12565174
>they will repeat the same tired and debunked talking points over and over ignoring the proof in the very thread
Yah uh, you can't debunk a genetic variation study you absolute pseud your argument was never anything but framing sophistry only capable of fooling a complete moron like the kool aid trannies in the social soiences

[Anonymous No.12565215]

>>12565203
Ok champ, go write a scientific article and reference all those studies you linked in your image there. You may not know this since you seem like a pretender, but you can write articles drawing conclusions from experimental studies and get those published in journals. Slap your name on it and submit for peer-review. Then, you can get people who's job it is to explain to you while it's all drivel, and why you'll be a laughing stock in academia the rest of your life.
I'm not gonna waste time on it. If you want to prove race is more than a social construct you need to offer a lot more "evidence" than what you have, and doing it here won't accomplish anything.

[Anonymous No.12565222]

>>12565215
I dont give a flying fuck about being in a (((peer review))) journal you complete and total waste of breath. No one gives a flying fuck about what you waste time on, get fukt with your deceptive framing for imbeciles and appeals to authority fucking hack

[Anonymous No.12565233]

>>12565222
The fact that you've resorted to such insult-laden flailing only further sinks in my warranted sense of victory. You lost the culture war and this argument for a simple reason: you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.12565258]

>>12565233
>I'm a better low IQ Jew puppet bootlicker than you
>golf clap

[Anonymous No.12565276]

>>12558068
>>12558104
>>12558131
>>12558135
>>12558887
>>12558937
>>12565058
>>12562213
>>12561964
The TRUTH About Slavery: Who's to Blame?
https://ugetube.com/watch/the-truth-about-slavery-who-039-s-to-blame_4ha4uyAx2HIpV7o.html

[Anonymous No.12565299]

>>12557899
You're a retard. Sorry not sorry. :)

[Anonymous No.12565302]

>>12557899
>how are they in danger at all
are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.12565303]

>>12565215
My god you are all pretentious trying to be smarter than him but you're no better. Of course race is a social construct. Every human concept is socially constructed. By saying race is a social construct you are not giving any argument against racism or racialism you are just stating the obvious.

[Anonymous No.12565319]

>>12558156
Because east asians are intellectually superior to whites who are intellectually superior to africans

[Anonymous No.12565328]

>>12558184
different genetic stock, europeans have degenerated

[Anonymous No.12565331]

>>12558216
China has a number of achievements, don't shit on our slant eyed frens. They simply aren't as ambitious as us europeans

[Anonymous No.12565338]

>>12558887
racial iq explains literally all of the income inequality gap

[Anonymous No.12565345]

>>12561964
Africa is the most resource rich location in the known universe.
The richest black students perform worse on the SAT than the poorest white students.

[Anonymous No.12565352]

>>12562343
>(((modern whites)))

[Anonymous No.12565489]

>>12565215
The Authoritarian View of Knowledge: Peer Review
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zR38CtjD__o/

The Expertise of Experts
The Authoritarian View of Knowledge II: The Expertise of Experts
https://www.bitchute.com/video/J8nk7GrB-zs/

Looks like all your attempts to deflect and skirt the facts got BTFO'd once again there champ. There is always next time to try again hoping someone won't be here to expose you and what you are doing eh?

[Anonymous No.12565560]

>>12565233
>You lost the culture war
No you just had a few decades headstart to work in secret and unlimited jewish funding but as you can see by this thread and the internet as a whole, as they cant censor people and platforms fast enough, the sleepers are waking up quick champ

[Anonymous No.12565732]

>>12565193
>Not the person you're arguing with, but as a third party observer I think they're winning.
t. the guy I was arguing with. either that or you're too dumb to recognize standard reddit phrases.

[Anonymous No.12565744]

>>12565732
Not that anon, but as an objective observer, his arguments are much stronger and rooted in factual evidence. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

[Anonymous No.12565810]

>>12561964
>if you raised black people in a white community with more money and less crime, they will perform equally to white/asian/latin peers. don't fall for that narrative.
That's actually completely false. IQ differences persist even after accounting for socioeconomic difference. This is objectively true, and if you took 5 seconds to think about the fact that people in countries like China, and even Indian and Iran have higher average IQs that American blacks despite being significantly poorer.

>yeah uh, this lacks nuance.
You're response lack nuance, because you a literally saying that the only variable affect socioeconomics is oppression and racism. There are way too many thing that are retarded, so I'm just going to list them off:
(1) Multiple variables can influence a phenomenon. It can be true that both low IQ and historical oppression and colonialism contribute to poverty in Africa. These aren't mutually exclusive hypotheses, and that fact would be obvious to anyone who isn't approaching the issue in an emotional, partisan manner,
(2) Your explanation doesn't actually account for anything. If Africa is poor because of muh racism and muh colonialism, then you still have to explain why they became victims of racism and colonialism in the first place
(3) Africa was actually poor and filled with literal retards long before Europeans arrived during the colonial era.
(4) All countries have faced colonialism and oppression, and yet none of them are as poor or undeveloped as Africa
(5) Contrary to what you claim, most working class whites and asian have IQs around the 100 point range, whereas working class blacks have IQs around the 85 range. In fact, even working class immigrants from third world countries who aren't even native English speakers typically perform better than American blacks on IQ tests.
(6) Anyone who has interacted with blacks extensively knows from experience that they're simply not as smart and a lot more violent that pretty much any race.

[Anonymous No.12565827]

>>12565193
>Just a heads up, the moment you use a basedjak I immediately disregard the contents of your post

That's an ad hominem. You're a partisan loser. Your post ironically has an intellectually condescending tone, despite the fact that you're clearly some SJW loser who hates science, free speech, and open debate.
You're the type of retard who thinks it okay to say that all white people are racist and that racism and oppression is ingrained in white culture. This is ironic given that (1) European countries and white individual are objectively the least racist and most "open-minded" people on the planet, and (2) If I made negative generalizations about any other race it would piss you off, but since we're talking about white people and white culture, it's okay to say that they're all oppressive, violent, racists. E.g. what if I said that violence and misogyny are ingrained in black culture?

[Anonymous No.12565834]

>>12565827
>European countries and white individual are objectively the least racist and most "open-minded" people on the planet
Nope
You guys are really racist and bomb countries all the time

[Anonymous No.12565850]

>>12565827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhSy-6VqIww

[Anonymous No.12565871]

>>12565827
which way white man? mask off you see what their intentions are >>12565834

[Anonymous No.12565894]

>>12565174
The levels of projection in this post is nothing short of astonishing. I cant tell if you are a shill or suffer some kind of severe personality disorder

[Anonymous No.12565911]

>>12565871
forward

[Anonymous No.12565917]

>>12565911
Off the cliff where we belong

[Anonymous No.12565939]

>>12565917
You are welcome lol

[Anonymous No.12565941]

>>12565894
No, they really are like that. His deep trust of authorities blinds him from objectively evaluating reality. He thinks that universities are pinnacle of truth and he does no critical thinking of his own. He has no argument against that infograph or anything else for that matter but he'll still believe it's wrong because that's what "the academics" think. He probably imagines that if those super smart PhD people were here right now, they would completely debunk that.

This line he said at the end
>If race existed then it'd be studied like anything else, no matter how controversial. I'm curious how people think academia is centered on "race doesn't exist" for any reason other than it being true?
perfectly illustrates what an absolute establishment shill he is. Sadly a lot of people 100 - 110 IQ people are like that.

[Anonymous No.12565956]

>>12550089
We bases policies like immigration with the assumption that race is all equal and humans are just blank slates
Which is completely false.

[Anonymous No.12565964]

>>12565941
Yah but his statement isnt even true. It is only what the (((establishment))) has been pushing in western schools since post WWII and even still it isnt ubiquitous or even the majority consensus. The Chinese and Japanese sure as shit teach that "race is real." The very notion is so fucking absurd on its face, that you cant judge what a race is with your own eyes, shows how utterly absurd (((academics))) have become. I mean believing "race isn't real" is 1984 levels of brainwashed

[Anonymous No.12565971]

>>12565964
why are you self-censoring yourself with those ((()))

[Anonymous No.12565981]

>>12565971
I didnt, it is called shorthand bud

[Anonymous No.12565999]

>>12565981
Jews is a lot easier than saying (((academics)))

[Anonymous No.12566002]

>>12565964
You must understand that these people probably went their entire lives without meeting a single non-white. And if they met few, they were probably non-representative high IQ group who essentially behave and talk like whites. Now combine this with the ongoing propaganda they've been exposed to plus their trust in authorities and it becomes clear why they believe that "race is only skin deep" or "race is social construct"

[Anonymous No.12566008]

>>12565999
no it isnt, saying (((establishment))) is much more efficient than saying jew infested, funded and pozzed establishment

[Anonymous No.12566012]

>>12561974
I didn't mean it literally retard - my point is if africans are truly oppressed they should be fighting for separation, not integration.

Integrating with your oppressor makes no sense.

Give the blacks Tennessee, Mississippi and Alabama or something...

[Anonymous No.12566014]

>>12566002
If you interact with low IQ blacks, you are likely low IQ and low SES yourself.
High IQ individuals are tolerant of each other.

[Anonymous No.12566017]

>>12566012
That's what Malcolm X and the Black Panthers wanted and they were based. But the government and FBI-corrupted individuals like MLK pushed integration because the US wants to utilize their labor power and control as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.12566029]

>>12566014
>High IQ individuals are tolerant of each other.
No, probably not. Highly educated whites still prefer to send their kids to white schools

>Emerson and research colleague Dr. David Sikkink, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Notre Dame, knew that income and other factors come into play in terms of school choice. But even after controlling for these variables, their study shows education has an interesting effect: Whites with more education place a greater emphasis on race when choosing a school for their children, while higher-educated Blacks do not consider race.

>In a study to be published in Ethnic and Racial Studies, Emerson and Sikkink cite earlier work on school choice in Philadelphia, where race was found to be a factor in Whites’ decisions about the quality of a school. Unlike Blacks, who judged schools on factors like graduation rates and students’ test scores, Whites initially eliminated any schools with a majority of Black students before considering factors such as graduation rates.

>When they analyzed a national data set of Whites and non-Hispanic Blacks to see if the level of their education would have an impact on their school choice, Emerson and Sikkink found a similar pattern.
>“Whites with higher levels of education still made school choices based on race, while Blacks did not,” says Emerson.

https://diverseeducation.com/article/6098/

[Anonymous No.12566033]

>>12550110
IQ tests were invented because somebody noticed that the grades for some subjects could better predict the rest of the grades than the other way around.
Some tasks tell you more about the general intelligence of a person than others. Guess what IQ tests consist of.

[Anonymous No.12566047]

>>12566017
this

>>12566014
No one is talking about the high IQ individuals the entire point is that majority of them aren't high IQ you massively retard motherfucker.

If every race and every human were all high IQ we wouldn't have tribalism and separate societies to begin with. Unfortunately we can't shape society around the high end of the IQ spectrum it always has to be built around the mean leaning towards the left end of spectrum. Jesus Christ how fucking retarded are you to not understand this?

This kind of comment is a perfect example of how stupid leftards are. This is why they call everyone racist and Nazi all the time because they live in fucking la la land completely divorced from reality and dont even understand basic concepts or the arguments they are engaged in. Goddamn son get your head out of your ass

[Anonymous No.12566050]

>>12566029
This definitely seems culturally motivated because schools filled with higher IQ individuals are more likely to have a larger proportion of richer white individuals in the United States like those individuals in the study.

[Anonymous No.12566056]

>>12566017
Yes. I have way more respect for Malcom x, at least he wrote his own speeches

[Anonymous No.12566130]

>>12565744
I recognize shapiro memes too

[Anonymous No.12566550]

>>12562343
nobody asked for your sympathy, it's fine. Just as long as everyone understands each other. The problem is most people here didn't understand until the people they were screeching "/pol/" "nazi" and "schizo" at came here to make them understand while they cried, bitched and screamed about it for the last few years. Picking teams has already begun, we as the "not stupid soi cucked whites who know what the score is" would like to be able to pick from candidates that aren't completely clueless soi cuck faggots. Prudence and all

[Anonymous No.12566586]

>>12558291
They're about 50-50 European-Levantine

[Anonymous No.12566603]

Because there are also relationships between IQ's and the level of technological sophistication a civilization can maintain, as well as many life outcomes and success in terms of education and wealth.

This in itself isn't a huge problem, but when you take into account the fact that we are importing millions of people from these low-IQ populations with the expectation that they will integrate into our high-tech socialist society, you can see that the ultimate outcome will be disastrous to the people already living here.

That doesn't even take into account the cultural effects, which are similarly disastrous.

Remember, we're talking about populations. When you introduce large numbers of people from a low-IQ population into a high-IQ population, the net effect is the degradation of the high-IQ population. Individuals don't matter. This the only way to look at it.

[Anonymous No.12566607]

>>12558200
based

[Anonymous No.12566786]

>>12550089

The problem is IQ period. Race plays into it but the overwhelming majority of all races aren't built for the future.

The world is rapidly becoming an increasingly complex place. Unless we can genetically engineer soon most will be left behind

[Anonymous No.12566816]

We need to spread hinduism to Africa. Set up a caste system and cow worship. Perhaps if we look back there in a few hundred years they'll amost be as useful as pajeets.

[Anonymous No.12567432]

>>12551371
This is a nigger cope

[Anonymous No.12567452]

>>12556902
Reddit fag detected.

[Anonymous No.12567461]

>>12558102
Ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.12567474]

>>12561119
Why is it a cope

[Anonymous No.12567552]

>>12567474
It's WE WUZ tier.

[Anonymous No.12567679]

>>12567552
you're retard tier>>12567474

[Anonymous No.12567711]

>>12567679
Only retards believe in race supremecy, White supremacists love to ignore the fact that the Orientals have higher IQs and work ethic. Wealth supremecy runs the world. It's laughable that Cletus living in his trailer park home thinks he is better than an Indian doctor just because of his skin colour, even if Cletus has done nothing of value in life.
It's a cope by those that offer nothing but want everything, the glory, the history and the credit for past achievements of a man who just happens to have the same skin colour.
Similar to how Jamal and his gangbanger friends want to think they were kings at one point. Everyone wants credit for doing nothing.

[Anonymous No.12567853]

>>12551057
based, /sci/ trannies seething at this one

[Anonymous No.12567867]

>>12551514
>>12551530
>>12552099
unbelievably based Anon
if only ethnic subgroups could get on :(
Unfortunately, we are but civilized animals, and as long as (((they))) are in power there can be no peace

[Anonymous No.12567889]

>>12558777
>dismiss all social sciences

god yes. social sciences are not a science.

[Anonymous No.12567906]

>>12556746
>he doesn't understand fractions or the inverse probability fallacy
Oh no no no no leftists really are this retarded AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.12567934]

>>12566017
If you have a chance then read his autobiography as told to Alex Haley.

[Anonymous No.12567947]

>>12558790
>>12564722
www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/2004currentdirections.pdf

Intelligence Predicts Health and Longevity, but Why?

>Large epidemiological studies of almost an entire population in Scotland have found that intelligence (as measured by an IQ-type test) in childhood predicts substantial differences in adult morbidity and mortality, including deaths from cancers and cardiovascular diseases. These relations remain significant after controlling for socioeconomic variables.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289610001340

The association between county-level IQ and county-level crime rates

>An impressive body of research has revealed that individual-level IQ scores are negatively associated with criminal and delinquent involvement... Analysis of data drawn from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health revealed statistically significant and negative associations between county-level IQ and the property crime rate, the burglary rate, the larceny rate, the motor vehicle theft rate, the violent crime rate, the robbery rate, and the aggravated assault rate.

[Anonymous No.12567952]

>>12567947
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042810002715

A study of simple and multiple relations between mathematics attitude, academic motivation and intelligence quotient with mathematics achievement

>Purpose of current study was to investigate simple and multiple relations between mathematics’ attitude, academic motivation and intelligence quotient with mathematics achievement. The Statistical population involved the entire Ardabil province’ high schools students in 2008 (N = 33982). From these, 1670 students are selected as sample by using Cochran's formula and multiple cluster sampling. For gathering data, the following instrument is used. Raven IQ test (=0.86), Hermense Academic Achievement Test (=0.83), Moenikia mathematics attitude questionnaire (=0.79), and students’ mathematics score in final exam. Correlation method was the research method. For data analysis, Pearson coefficient correlation and multiple regression in enter model were used. The Results showed that all of the variables correlate with together significantly. Mathematics’ attitude, academic motivation, and intelligence quotient were predicator of mathematics achievement statistically significant.

[Anonymous No.12567956]

>>12567952
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289606000171

Intelligence and educational achievement

>This 5-year prospective longitudinal study of 70,000 + English children examined the association between psychometric intelligence at age 11 years and educational achievement in national examinations in 25 academic subjects at age 16. The correlation between a latent intelligence trait (Spearman's g from CAT2E) and a latent trait of educational achievement (GCSE scores) was 0.81. General intelligence contributed to success on all 25 subjects. Variance accounted for ranged from 58.6% in Mathematics and 48% in English to 18.1% in Art and Design. Girls showed no advantage in g, but performed significantly better on all subjects except Physics. This was not due to their better verbal ability. At age 16, obtaining five or more GCSEs at grades A–C is an important criterion. 61% of girls and 50% of boys achieved this. For those at the mean level of g at age 11, 58% achieved this; a standard deviation increase or decrease in g altered the values to 91% and 16%, respectively.

[Anonymous No.12567963]

>>12567956
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886911002984

National IQ and economic outcomes

>One of the most consequential parts of Richard Lynn’s work is the establishment of a comprehensive data set of “national IQ” for nearly all countries in the world. The present contribution demonstrates the use of this database for the explanation of two economic outcomes: (1) economic growth and level of attained wealth at the country level; and (2) income distribution in countries as measured by the Gini index. The results show that high IQ is associated not only with high per-capita GDP and fast economic growth, but also with more equal income distribution. These outcomes are not mediated by educational exposure.

>Average IQ is an independent predictor of economic growth.
>IQ is slightly better than school achievement as predictor of economic growth.
>In poor countries, part of the IQ effect is mediated by reduced fertility rates.
>At average IQs up to 95, higher IQ is associated with lower income inequality.

[Anonymous No.12568006]

>>12567947
>>12567952
>>12567956
>>12567963
Another good summary of IQ effects is in The Bell Curve

[Anonymous No.12568008]

>>12568006

[Anonymous No.12568628]

>>12567711
>source: just trust me bro my pleebit echo chamber told me this so it is most assuredly fact based and not a hyperbolic strawman caricature at all. Forget all the arguments in this thread that are based on actual real world problems and applications. It is because they are just hateful people they have no right to worry about their safety and futures from the hate mobs vilifying, hating and open assaulting them
kys projecting faggot

[Anonymous No.12568656]

>>12568628
Ahaha Cletus absolutely seething. You will always be below 100 IQ

[Anonymous No.12568662]

>>12568656
but countless high quality studies have found black people have an average IQ below 100. what is your response

[Anonymous No.12568769]

>>12567711
>White supremacists love to ignore the fact that the Orientals have higher IQs
Who exactly are you talking about here? Because people that are usually called "white supremacists" are well aware of high asian IQ.

[Anonymous No.12568884]

>>12568656
>get called out for the fraud you are
>project and deflect with wild and fanciful fan fictions
leftardismin a nutshell. These people are all heavily medicated for a reason. They aren't confused about their gender and chopping their dicks because they are mentally stable.

Once they get power they will turn on each other with purity spirals of who is the best cult member who can spew the doctrine for memory and attack everyone with an insatiable blood list. Read about the jacobins and the french revolution. That is what happens when you let mentally deranged animals get control of any kind of power.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/french-revolution-was-driven-to-terror-by-violent-rhetoric/

[Anonymous No.12569834]

Does anyone have the study that surveyed experts and had about 14% believing that there was no genetic association for lower black achievement with the mean consensus being 51% environment 49% genetics?

[Anonymous No.12569936]

>>12569834
I believe it was 60% genetics and 40% environment

[Anonymous No.12570183]

>>12569834
heritability is generally considered 70 percent
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/the-heritability-of-iq/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHfYrYjpiJg

[Anonymous No.12570204]

>>12550089
>>12550094
>>12550101
>>12551404
>>12551514
>>12551544
>>12553219
>>12555013
>>12556457
>>12557847
>>12568884
>>12568656
>>12567711
I'm sorry about mass replying, but I'm about to answer OP's question better than anyone else.
(Pt. 1/4) I have come to the conclusion that discussing the genetic basis of between-group differences in intellegence is beneficial to under-performing racial minorities and not discussing these differences is detrimental to under-performing racial minorities. There are three reasons.

1. The lack of discussion will harm future progress towards helping under-preforming minorities,

2. The lack of discussion will cause the waste resources which would instead go towards helping under-preforming minorities, and

3. Discussion won't negatively change much at all.

[Anonymous No.12570209]

>>12570204
(Pt. 2/4)
1. Back in 2007 in "Considerations Relating to the Study of Group Differences in Intelligence," Earl Hunt and Jerry Carlson wrote "the Food and Drug Administration licensed a drug, BiDil, targeted specifically for the treatment of heart disease in African Americans. In principle, similar race-specific treatments could be developed for individuals at risk for cognitive conditions, including low intelligence. There is no reason to regard such research as either impossible or undesirable." Now, over a decade later, after the advent of large-sample genome-wide association studies, 20%–25% of the race difference in intelligence can be explained by specific genes for cognitive ability that we've already identified, and a much greater percentage of the race difference in intellegence can be explained by genes that have not yet been identified (Lasker at al. 2019). The treatment discussed by Hunt and Carlson is now possible and will become more possible in the future when more variants are identified. But, just as many African-Americans refused to take BiDil based on the incorrectly-held belief that race is only skin-deep--that is, it doesn't affect underlying biology, there will be similar refusal by institutions and people alike to the research and use Hunt and Carlson's hypothetical treatment, despite the fact that it could be one of the most effective things we can do help some racial minorities. More generally, if facts are not openly discussed, we as a society will not be aware of the best course of action to solve a problem.

[Anonymous No.12570210]

>>12558127
Africa is fertile enough for more than a billion people AND herds of megafauna, while 30% or so of it is sand.

[Anonymous No.12570214]

>>12550089

you have average iq, so it doesn't matter to you

[Anonymous No.12570219]

>>12558182
It's called a tan.

[Anonymous No.12570221]

>>12570209
(Pt. 3/4)
2. Much money and effort has been put into intensive interventions designed to raise IQ substantially during childhood. However, gains from these programs dissolve by adolescence. (Baumeister & Bacharach,2000; Lipsey, Farran, & Durkin,2018; Protzko,2015). One example of this is the Head Start program, a program based on the environmentalist assumption that early intervention can permanently raise intelligence and academic performance. Jensen in 1969 predicted that this program would fail and said: "educational attempts to boost IQ have been misdirected and the educational process should focus on teaching much more specific skills. . . . This will be accomplished most effectively if educational methods are developed which are based on other mental abilities besides IQ." In 2012, a congress-mandated report by the United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) stated that the effects of Head Start disappear by third grade (Puma et al.,2012) – that is, Head Start failed. In the years immediately following HHS’s report, the government increased funding for Head Start by hundreds of millions of dollars (Enriquez,2016). "If we had followed Jensen’s recommendation in 1969 to devote money to programs that were tailored to the strengths of different groups rather than to Head Start, around two hundred billion dollars would have gone to improving lives instead of accomplishing nothing" (Cofnas 2019). Contemporary scientists have echoed Jensen's 1969 conclusion and called for tailored training programs (e.g., Gottfredson,2005a,2005b, p. 318; Lubinski & Humphreys,1997).

[Reason #2 is cont'd on pt. 4/4]

[Anonymous No.12570222]

>>12550089
The real reason is beause any neurological study on Blacks reveals they have very prehistoric brains compared to non blacks which would bring their human rights into question. Why should we treat blacks like humans if most of them are quite literally mentally more like chimps than a random Eurasian like an arab or chinese man?

[Anonymous No.12570224]

>>12570221
(Pt. 4/4)

Cont'd from reason 2:
Accumulating evidence suggests that education can indeed be effective in raising specific cognitive skills (Ritchie, Bates, & Deary,2015), but not general intellegence (IQ). Indeed, despite the widespread adoption of these types of programs and additudes, the black/white IQ and SAT (which correlates strongly with general intellegence) gaps have remained stubbornly constant over the decades. If the genetic causes for inter-racial IQ differences were more openly discussed, perhaps our political and institutional leaders would invest in programs that could actually help under-performing minorities (like learning specific abilities and skills) instead of dumping it into an environmentalist hole.

3. The main reasons why people object to discussing this topic is that if people know that there is a genetic cause for the IQ differences, people will become more racist. That is, people might discriminate against black people in job interviews because people may (incorrectly) assume that because they are black they must have lower intellegence. This is unlikely because it is already widely known and openly discussed that that certain racial groups have higher or lower average intellegence than others. What would merely knowing the cause change? But perhaps it may make people think that one racial group is "superior" or "inferior" to another. This is again unlikely. Racist people are not racist because of logic and scientific fact. They are racist because of superstitious, stereotypical thinking, and are going to be regardless of if there is a sober discussion of a scientific issue.

[Anonymous No.12570226]

>>12555042
The spread of maladaptive traits throughout a population. For example if group A is more inclined for more aggressive behavior and less inclined for intelligence than as things progress tech wise we will need people with higher intelligence and less aggressiveness. So either though genetic editing or selective breading you can make that troublesome population more able to actually be self sufficient and more productive to the overall core instead of being both half and 13 at the same time.

[Anonymous No.12570227]

>>12570204
Blacks dont under perform they dont perform period, anyone that has been in education with blacks would know only a small section of their population will ATTEMPT to learn anything in school. Most blacks in school think its a place to socialize and give their teachers PTSD.

[Anonymous No.12570235]

>>12567711
>Only retards believe in race supremecy
So black people?

[Anonymous No.12570247]

>>12569834
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289619301886

It was 16% that believed in pure environmentalism.

[Anonymous No.12570306]

>>12554788
Certainly not a very clever guy... Let me guess, american?

[Anonymous No.12570332]

>>12550089
In the debate about IQ it is easy to identify unintelligent individuals. Even if you don't trust IQ, surely you can, to some extent, trust the debate around it as a metric of intelligence. It is also important because certain views are used as a justification for oppression, which obviously affects more than just the knowledge of the truth.

[Anonymous No.12570391]

>>12551371
The complexity of intelligence has literally nothing to do with IQ. The value of IQ is that it can measure a capacity regardless of the constitution of that capacity. You can't say it is valueless because it was literally made and defined as "value." It is not about explaining why some odd natural pattern has value based on our interpretation of its principle construction. The only thing that is up for debate is whether IQ measures anything significant. Race being a social construct has literally nothing to do with anything. "Genetics and ecology have essentially no basis in biology." Lol. Some people are smarter than others, even within groups. Hence the bell curve.

[Anonymous No.12570484]

>>12565871
Libertarians Walked off the cliff, it shouldn’t have suprised me but it did.

[Anonymous No.12571026]

Education is key for both whites and blacks, because without it no IQs can go up. If blacks IQ goes up, this improves life in general. If whites IQ goes up, life improves in general.

Regardless of any other factor, education is the only way to increase the global IQ quotient. But, since we know education is the relevant metric, we can discard race, and recognize the general principle that education of all, regardless of race, or any other factor, should be the only pursuit. Anything less would be uncivilized.

[Anonymous No.12571854]

>>12550092
how convenient