/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12505878]

I won't get that covid 19 vaccine Pfizer made or whatever since I have an immune system. I did take rabies shots because rabies is different.

[Anonymous No.12505884]

>>12505878
I've already had multiple MMR shots which appears to provide good protection from COVID19. Maybe not as good as is claimed comes from the COVID19 vaccine but the MMR vaccine is well understood and tested so I'll go with that level of immunity.

[Anonymous No.12505935]

>>12505878
>. I did take rabies shots because rabies is different.
The mental gymnastics here are world class.

[Anonymous No.12505942]

>>12505878
"I'm not wearing a parachute since I have strong bones"

[Anonymous No.12505974]

>>12505935
>disease with 100% lethality
>disease with 0.1% lethality
Other things aside that's enough to make a difference.

[Anonymous No.12505977]

>>12505942
>I'm wearing parachute at supermarket, in bath and when sleeping

[Anonymous No.12506043]

You can google the ingredients of vaccines but anti-vaxxers insist on making it this "mysterious poison from the evil government". Even if they do the research, they'll question why [normally bad chemical] is there because they don't understand how chemical compounds work.

[Anonymous No.12506057]

>>12505977
The analogy fails because unlike a parachute, a vaccine does nothing to inconvenience you and only serves to protect you and others.

[Anonymous No.12506120]

I'll take my chances with the 99.97% survival rate.

[Anonymous No.12506128]

>>12506120
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Survival rate isn't a flat 0.03%

[Anonymous No.12506132]

>>12506128
Fatality rate*

[Anonymous No.12506172]

>>12505935
have you seen what rabies does to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKHV9uAsvg

[Anonymous No.12506173]

>>12506043
mercury is bad for you

[Anonymous No.12506175]

>>12506128
that's only counting "confirmed" cases, all the people that don't even get sick don't even get counted there

[Anonymous No.12506183]

>>12506173
So is chlorine and sodium, yet salt is required for the human body to survive

[Anonymous No.12506189]

>>12506183
mercury is required for the human body to survive?

[Anonymous No.12506204]

>>12506173
So you don't eat fish right?

[Anonymous No.12506206]

>>12506183
retarded npc response, it isn't even relevant here

[Anonymous No.12506210]

>>12506204
what do doctors tell newborn parents not to do feed their children? don't eat fish

[Anonymous No.12506216]

>>12506206
Then refute it beyond doing your own retarded npc response, faggot

[Anonymous No.12506217]

>>12506120
see the relevant age groups and stop lying with stats

[Anonymous No.12506226]

>>12506216
when you eat salt, you're not eating chlorine. the ppm content is incredibly low, it's 1 to 3 depending on salt brand. how do you not know this retard? molecules are different than the atoms that comprise them

[Anonymous No.12506235]

>>12506210
Which vaccines for children have mercury, my special friend? Now answer the question, do you eat fish?

[Anonymous No.12506263]

>>12506226
>molecules are different than the atoms that comprise them
The fuck do you think thimerosal is? That is where the vaccine mercury worry comes from in the first place.

[Anonymous No.12506297]

>>12506210
Since you've gone mysteriously silent I can only assume you do eat fish and you're a retarded hypocrite whining about nothing.

[Anonymous No.12506301]

>>12506235
i avoid eating too much big fish which carries mercury, how much fish do you have to eat to consume the mercury on a vaccine? it's all on the dose obviously

[Anonymous No.12506314]

>>12506210
Honey

[Anonymous No.12506363]

>>12506301
>how much fish do you have to eat to consume the mercury on a vaccine?
1 can of tuna fish.

[Anonymous No.12506373]

>>12506301
>>12506363
All of this boils down to: Would you eat a can of tuna or risk getting corona. Mind you, you probably won't die, but you'll spread it to others and the likelihood of at least one dying increases.

[Anonymous No.12506380]

>>12506057
Being forced to inject something is already bad enough (just like even best food is bad when force-fed and even mildest sex is bad when rape). Not to mention that flu vaccine experience already showed me how harmless vaccines are and there is no reason to think that corona ones will be better.

[Anonymous No.12506382]

>>12506057
>a vaccine does nothing to inconvenience you
Sure

when you're not being a guinea pig

[Anonymous No.12506384]

>>12506373
>but you'll spread it to others and the likelihood of at least one dying increases.
If you are going out, then it's purely your fault (if you are from a rare totally irreplaceable job, then please wear a hazmat suit, I'll even finance you one).

[Anonymous No.12506388]

>>12506373
Not really, the COVID vaccine doesn't contain mercury.

[Anonymous No.12506389]

>>12506373
>but you'll spread it to others
You don't spread the rona simply by being within 6 feet of other people

[Anonymous No.12506411]

>>12506297
>>12506204
you're so retarded and keep missing the point

when you're an infant, the effects of eating fish is more harmful than when you're an adult. it's literally in the guidelines to not feed babies tuna or any fish that contains mercury

[Anonymous No.12506418]

>>12506382
Yes and now that vaccines are so distrusted in the Philippines due to this incident, they regularly have fucking measles outbreaks. The moral of the story is to not let corporate greed go unchecked, not never trust vaccines. Furthermore, the company behind Dengvaxia released a statement beforehand that the vaccine posed a risk to people never before infected with Dengue, but people ignored it.

[Anonymous No.12506422]

>>12506411
I already addressed this >>12506235

Learn how to read, retard.

[Anonymous No.12506426]

>>12506422
Almost all of them you retard, look up the fda page of vaccines and their mercury content. jesus fuck anon, do you need everything to be given on a silver platter?

[Anonymous No.12506429]

>>12506418
>they regularly have fucking measles outbreaks
Which is funny because the MMR actually works

I had it once, never had any mumps or rubella or measles. That dengue vaccine actually fucked you up if you took it without having caught dengue before, and dengue can fuck you up if you have had caught dengue another time. It isn't as simple as vaxxtards think.

[Anonymous No.12506439]

>>12506429
It's absolutely okay to be skeptical of a vaccine if it's been reported to have horrifying side effects like the Dengvaxia one.

[Anonymous No.12506450]

>>12505974
>>100% lethality
>people survive it

[Anonymous No.12506467]

Most of those vaccines have been in development for far longer.

For those who are high at risk, taking the vaccine is probably a good move. Otherwise relying on your immune system probably is preferable to a vaccine that currently has rates of negative symptoms that are much higher than the chances of actually getting a bad case of Covid.

[Anonymous No.12506468]

>>12506384
>your death will be a statistic because i dont want to eat tuna
>it's their fault
I would understand if it was a natural selection thing, but even the healthy could die. You're trading the 100% certainty of someone living for the 99.97% probability for no reason other than pride. And the chance of someone dying increases the more you spread.
>>12506388
It's an example. Some vaccines do have mercury but it's not a huge amount, nor is it added to be malicious.

[Anonymous No.12506476]

>>12506384
>your death will be a statistic because i dont want to eat tuna
>it's their fault
I would understand if it was a natural selection thing, but even the healthy could die. You're trading the 100% certainty of someone living for the 99.97% probability for no reason other than pride. And the chance of someone dying increases the more you spread.
>>12506388
Some vaccines do have mercury but it's not a huge amount, nor is it added to be malicious.

[Anonymous No.12506479]

>>12506476
No, I am saying that if you don't want to practice what you preach and instead are trying to force me to do that, then I actually wish you harm. Oh, I also don't care about butterfly effect scenarios.

[Anonymous No.12506482]

Oh yes I am totally letting them put a genetic rootkit inside my body

[Anonymous No.12506495]

>>12506467
>For those who are high at risk, taking the vaccine is probably a good way of putting oneself at a high risk of contagion and dying before the vaccine kicks in

This is going to be a fucking fiasco just like the lockdooowns were

[Anonymous No.12506517]

>>12506426
>Almost all of them you retard
Nice lie.

Yes you do need to provide evidence for your claims. You won't because you're making shit up.

[Anonymous No.12506519]

>>12506363
i wouldn't inject 1 can of tuna in my veins, i will eat the vaccine if that's all it takes

[Anonymous No.12506522]

>>12506519
The type of mercury in vaccines exits your body faster than the methylmercury in fish. You're retarded.

[Anonymous No.12506524]

>>12506479
We are staying home. The ones going out without a mask are conservatives. Hilariously, we are protecting conservatives from other conservatives.
>I wish you harm if you inject me with a vaccine that prevents potential harm to others
I don't think it should be mandatory, but I do think anti-vaxxers should be publically shamed. This isn't meant to be an insult, but why are you scared of this vaccine? I'm genuinely curious. Or are you too prideful or a contrarian? It can't be because of "blind faith" because vaccine ingredients are public. I'm genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.12506526]

>>12506263
Why do people on /sci/ have a grade school level of chemistry knowledge

[Anonymous No.12506538]

>>12506479
We are staying home. The ones going out without a mask are conservatives. Hilariously, we are protecting conservatives from other conservatives.
>I wish you harm if you inject me with a vaccine that prevents potential harm to others
I don't think it should be mandatory, but I do think anti-vaxxers should be shunned. This isn't meant to be an insult, but why avoid the vaccine? I'm genuinely curious. Or are you too prideful or a contrarian? It can't be because of "blind faith" because vaccine ingredients are public.

[Anonymous No.12506543]

>>12506522
either way im not injecting anti-fertility tuna cans in my veins

[Anonymous No.12506554]

>>12506524
>The ones going out without a mask are conservatives.
Great, it's their choice then.
>Hilariously, we are protecting conservatives from other conservatives.
Hilariously no one asked you to do it and your unwanted help is basically an assault.

>I don't think it should be mandatory, but I do think anti-vaxxers should be publically shamed.
Good, and I think that vaxxers should be shamed. Both things are still assaultish, but it's even fun to see who will overshame who (and who will die more in the end).
>This isn't meant to be an insult, but why are you scared of this vaccine?
Main reason: because after 2020 I don't believe a thing government says and certainly will avoid following things it proposes. Especially if they are covid-related.
Additional reason 1: Because I've read the anti-anti-vaxxers before and even back then they were suspiciously cult-like (but now it got even worse)
Additional reason 2: Because of the pretty bad experience with flu vaccine (supported by experiences of some people I know).
Additional reason 3: Because of all the vaccine fails (some of which are mentioned ITT).

[Anonymous No.12506556]

>>12505878
>my country bought the russian vaccine
>already had rona
I'm worried about my folks tho

[Anonymous No.12506564]

>>12506467
>For those who are high at risk
Except for the sputnik since it actually has bad side effects for risk groups.

[Anonymous No.12506576]

>>12506564
and the UK vaccine left people with the face half paralyzed, and killed allergic people, seems to be way more dangerous that the coronavirus by %

[Anonymous No.12506628]

>>12506543
But you'll continue to eat fish because you're a contrarian retard who doesn't actually believe the bullshit you're spewing.

[Anonymous No.12506632]

>>12506628
You shouldn't eat fish, you should eat bugs, own nothing and be happy.

[Anonymous No.12506645]

>>12506632
OK schizo

[Anonymous No.12506649]

>>12506632
makes sense scientifically, i fucking love science

[Anonymous No.12506651]

>>12506645
Build the new normal back better!

[Anonymous No.12506743]

>>12505878
The rabies vaccine has been around for a long time and its side effects and how to treat them are well known. The same is not true for the covid vaccines. Most people opposed to getting the covid vaccine already have had plenty of other vaccines, vaccines with long records behind them. Of course you already know this and only by intentionally conflating Jenny McCarthy anti-vaxxers with reasonable people who question the wisdom of being injected with a poorly tested and rushed vaccine are you able to make your faulty point. Next you will lie and say it wasn't rushed and went through the same process as every other vaccine because at this point lies are all you have left. It's no surprise so many distrust the rushed covid vaccine when the main proponents for it are so openly dishonest.

[Anonymous No.12506778]

>>12506743
didn't they fast-track the barely tested vaccine and skip proper procedure? who knows that that thing will do when massively injected into the population

[Anonymous No.12506787]

[Anonymous No.12506803]

>>12506787
>Pregnancies at time of vaccination
wtf does this mean? did they vaccinate and rape the participants?

[Anonymous No.12506807]

>>12506787
>3% in 5 days
isn't that worse than the virus?

[Anonymous No.12507017]

DNA is information
And it's been scientifically proven that viruses are able to reprogram things that is what the AIDS virus does to humans and that's a virus that naturally evolved.
So no I am not getting a weakened version of the covid-19 vaccine to utterly fuck my DNA up.

[Anonymous No.12507026]

Also anybody who blindly accepts a vaccine doesn't understand virology at all.
Sure vaccines that are created to prevent naturally-occurring illnesses aren't malicious because you're preventing and profiting off of disease prevention.
But see when you're making a vaccine word obviously man-made virus, and when you almost have 4 decades of gene splicing and GMO information and experience. One can only just start to speculate what this vaccine contains and what it will do to your DNA and your body.

[Anonymous No.12507148]

>>12505974
kek, retard.

>>12506172
Of course. The vaccine still works the same way and it's a dumb argument.

[Anonymous No.12507167]

>>12507148
>works the same way
nothing "works the same way" when it comes to putting weird stuff into the human body

[Anonymous No.12507176]

>>12507148
>state obvious fact
>covidist immediately btfo

[Anonymous No.12507191]

>>12506183
Where is the original version of this meme where he refutes the calling of salt sodium chloride as incorrect. This is like a water downed reddit version of the meme.

[Anonymous No.12507293]

>>12507191

[Anonymous No.12507368]

>>12506576
>4 people out of thousands got Bell's Palsy from the vaccine
>This means it's common
Why don't you learn some statistics while you're at it?

[Anonymous No.12507426]

>>12507368
so the vaccine is more statistically dangerous for your health than the virus

[Anonymous No.12507451]

>>12506743
Your arguments are just as shitty as Jenny McCarthy tier anti-vaxxers.

[Anonymous No.12507456]

>>12507426
Only if you belong to a very narrow category that most belong to. To wit:
>You mustn't be overweight, but not too athletic
>You have to have zero existing condictions.
>You must be young but not too young
>You must be a pre-menopausal woman with extra-regular menstruation.

All of these must be together in order for that to matter. The sole fact that a significant part of the population in First World countries is both either overweight or old tells me it's worth it.

[Anonymous No.12507461]

>>12507426
No.

[Anonymous No.12507465]

>>12507456
>>You must be young but not too young
what did he mean by "not too young"? kids are literally immune to the virus

[Anonymous No.12507467]

>>12507176
>implying implications
Never said I am. In no way BTFO anything. The argument in OP is
>I don't take the vaccine because I have an immune system

>>12507167
Quick, name all the ingredients in a pop tart.

[Anonymous No.12507472]

>>12507465
>kids are literally immune to the virus
Where did you get that complete bullshit from?
>Kawasaki syndrome
>scar tissue on organs
>neurological effects
That they usually don't get fever and cough doesn't mean the virus isn't doing anything to them.

[Anonymous No.12507476]

>>12507465
>kids are literally immune to the virus
No they are not.

[Anonymous No.12507477]

>>12507472
Now show me that the number of those who got these things is (at least) higher than number of virus deaths.

[Anonymous No.12507487]

>>12507467
pop-tarts and processed sugars are literal poison

[Anonymous No.12508958]

Excluding /med/, the rest of /sci/, espefially threads like these, are filled with cucks who regurgitate MSM shit and act as if their brains work at a higher level. Its unreal, the level of cuckery.

[Anonymous No.12509003]

i just wait a couple of years before getting the vaccine, i am not that stupid to be a rat lab, look like /sci is full of people who want to be rat labs and test the new vaccine, can't wait to see if there are long-term effects, such as infertility, maybe will be nothing, but i won't risk it. I take the chances with my immune system.

[Anonymous No.12509889]

>>12505878
Leftists: "If you don't take your vaccine you're an anti vaxxer lunatic!"
Right wingers:"I ain't taking NO vaccine!"

Normal people: "I take vaccines that make sense, and I don't take ones that don't."

The world isn't black and white, it's shades of grey. I won't be taking this vaccine because I'm not afraid of Covid and it has had almost no testing. I don't take any medication that hasn't had proper testing.

Operation warp speed is not something I want to hear in relation to a medication that I'm supposed to have injected into my body.

[Anonymous No.12509912]

>>12508958
You gotta keep in mind that most people argue from an ideological standpoint online, half the pro vaccine people have no intention of taking this unless shamed into it. Most of the extreme anti vaccine people will take it if even a small amount of pressure it brought to bear on them.

It's about virtue signalling, diversion, or just arguing ideology.

[Anonymous No.12509944]

>>12507487
And yet, people down them like it's nothing.

[Anonymous No.12509949]

>>12506439
They've all been reported to have horrifying side effects, clamp cuck.

[Anonymous No.12509951]

>>12509889
Vaccines are poison. Sometimes it really is black and white.

[Anonymous No.12509956]

>>12505878
Being fully vaccinated is like having a full systemic circumcision.

[Anonymous No.12509986]

>>12506128
He's probably not 60+

[Anonymous No.12510007]

YOU ARE GONNA TAKE THE VACCINE QND YOU ARE GONNA LIKE IT

[Anonymous No.12510017]

>>12507477
Irrelevant, so why would I? You said kids were immune, but they aren't, as seen by the increasing numbers of Kawasaki syndrome victims. You're already proven wrong.

[Anonymous No.12510021]

>>12510007
This shit is the new
>nobody:
>literally nobody:
>somebody: hurrrr
meme, lamest thing to come out of 2020.

[Anonymous No.12510100]

>>12509912
this, the patrician choice is convincing others to take the vaccine, but avoid it yourself

[Anonymous No.12510127]

>>12509912
>You gotta keep in mind that most people argue from an ideological standpoint online, half the pro vaccine people have no intention of taking this unless shamed into it. Most of the extreme anti vaccine people will take it if even a small amount of pressure it brought to bear on them.
IS this opposite day?

[Anonymous No.12510145]

>>12509949
>>12509951
You obsessive fucker probably would've held a week-long mourning period when pic rel happened.

Why don't you go back curing HIV by raping virgins and solving cancer through healing crystals?

[Anonymous No.12510149]

>>12510145

[Anonymous No.12510152]

>>12510145
Lol, incredibly clamped. Like I just insulted your God.

Unclamp.

[Anonymous No.12510154]

>>12509949
Got anything to back that up, or you just talking shit about a random billionaire?

[Anonymous No.12510158]

>>12510154
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
https://vaers.hhs.gov/

[Anonymous No.12510163]

>>12510158
How the fuck do you even cure yourself, if your whole argument is "b-but vaccines have side effects", you brainless chimp?

[Anonymous No.12510165]

>>12510163
?????

[Anonymous No.12510179]

>>12509889
>Leftists: "If you don't take your vaccine you're an anti vaxxer lunatic!"
>Right wingers:"I ain't taking NO vaccine!"
What's funny is that anti-vaxx has a very strong presence in the left wing of politics. What's funnier is that the usual anti-vaxx celebrities have suddenly gotten very very quiet about their anti-vaxx views. Jim Carrey in particular has been very vocal in being both ant-vaxx and "orange man murdered 300,000 Americans with Covid" but now that the vaccine is out, he's nowhere to be found. He's even quit his job on SNL as the go to Joe Biden impersonator.

[Anonymous No.12510185]

>>12509944
And they free to choose to do so or not do so. No one has ever tried to force me to eat a Pop-Tart.

[Anonymous No.12510188]

>>12509889
>and it has had almost no testing.
When will this meme end?

[Anonymous No.12510191]

>>12510185
No, they're not. I want a functional and useful population. The pop-tarts will be taken away. The population shall be raw material. No more grazing and shoveling the face with food. All shall be fit. There will be a 3 day fast once per month.

[Anonymous No.12510216]

>>12510191
the medical community was ok with pic related for the last 5 decades, there's no fixing this, the population is bad, but the academics are even worse

[Anonymous No.12510252]

>>12510216
Sledgehammer right to the head. The others will get the idea and fall in line. Whether they're actually using their brain or are simply mimicking those who do out of fear, is irrelevant in the short term. In the following generations, such bullshit can be weeded out.

[Anonymous No.12510254]

>>12510216
I remember being taught that pyramid in school and getting that exact mix from my parents as a kid.
Was there an official update?

[Anonymous No.12510263]

>>12510252
you are in the minority and at the bottom, you are not gonna sledgehammer anybody

[Anonymous No.12510264]

>>12510263
True.

[Anonymous No.12510284]

>>12507148
HAHAHAHAHAH
study for a few years in medschool and then work for a few more before you even try to spout your retarded lack of knowledge in immunology and infectology

[Anonymous No.12510294]

>>12507148
No two vaccines work the same way. The risk/benefit ratio is not the same. Sometimes its worthy despite side effects, sometimes its not worthy.

[Anonymous No.12510303]

>>12510017
Nobody got kawasaki. This is just like the global warming thing, the numbers being argued are smaller than error bars.

[Anonymous No.12510319]

>>12506043
>You can google the ingredients
This is incorrect.

EVERYONE will get a different vaccine because the ingredients for each batch are different
I'm no anti-vaxxer and they kinda piss me off, but THIS is kinda really freaking me out.

The only way to know what's in the vaccine you're getting is to get information as from the doctors/nurses as you're receiving the vaccine (that is if they want to give it to you and they're not to busy giving shots and know what info to give you) Then you can call the pharmaceutical company with the information and ask them to email you the ingredients for your specific batch. The potential for exploiting this quirk for experimentation on the population is something that does not escape my notice. They could make a ton of different varieties, experiment on the population, and see what happens with each variety of the vaccine. In fact, it would be gross negligence if they didn't do this due to the way each batch is different.

[Anonymous No.12510328]

>>12510319
>The only way to know what's in the vaccine you're getting is to
I was going to respond to that post earlier, but didn't bother. You're both wrong. The only way to know what's in an injection is to prepare it yourself. Reading the label, looking at batch and lot numbers, looking at whether the nurse shook a multidose vial or not, all of these things are blind faith. You do not know what's in them, period, end of story. This is not an opinion or a discussion, it's a statement of fact.

[Anonymous No.12510330]

>>12507293
Based and thanks.

[Anonymous No.12510338]

>>12505878
Oh, and I'm a dog, if that makes any difference...

[Anonymous No.12510340]

[Anonymous No.12510342]

>>12510328
why does shaking the vial make a difference?

[Anonymous No.12510347]

>>12510342
Different weights of the constituents which may not distribute into a homogenous solution or stay that way for long. eg mercury is heavy and can settle in a layer nearer to the bottom, so if you get that last dose...

[Anonymous No.12510372]

>>12510303
so he was memeing and kids really are immune?

[Anonymous No.12510376]

>>12510342
shaken, not stirred

[Anonymous No.12510832]

>>12510284
>hurrr durrr
Current rabies vaccines use inactivated viruses or mRNA. How is the mechanism different from other vaccines with inactivated viruses or mRNA? Do tell, Mr. undergrad.

>>12510294
That's true, but the mechanism is the same.

>>12510303
Facts state otherwise.

[Anonymous No.12510843]

>>12510832
How many rabies vaccines have you received?

[Anonymous No.12510851]

>>12510832
Not any of those anons.
The mRNA rabies vaccine isn't approved in the US. Haven't heard of it here. Is it approved elsewhere? Saw some studies about it showing some efficacy. I thought the first license vaccine worldwide was the Pfizer one.

[Anonymous No.12512376]

>>12510127
No.

[Anonymous No.12512390]

I'd be perfectly happy with antivaxxers killing off themselves and their families, it's a blessing really, but they insist on spreading the diseases they pretend don't exist to functional people. Can we have separate communities for them, so everybody can live in peace without enforcing their life choices on each other?