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I wanna understand the structures that govern the universe and space-time, what should I be studying? Maybe General Relativity and Topology? Quantum Mechanics? Philosophy?

I just wanna know the ultimate truth of our universe and why we are here and I think that by understanding time itself I can find an answer.

>> No.12505032

>>12505029
save your time, nobody has any answer.

we are all going to die though.

>> No.12505038

>>12505032
Even if in the end I can't find an answer, I still wanna dedicate my life to trying to find it otherwise there would be no meaning in living for me anymore. I don't find pleasure in anything that is not the ultimate truth.

>> No.12505041

>>12505029
A clock

>> No.12505053

>>12505038
The more you study, the more you'll question the existence of truth. You will get a perverted pleasure from the experience though.

>> No.12505056

>>12505053
Don't project yourself on me, I will never accept subjectivity as the actual truth.

>> No.12505060

>>12505029
>bottom tier
Mathematics, religion, art
>low tier
Natural science, health science
>mid tier
Social science, cognitive science
>high tier
Philosophy, archaeology
>top tier
Physical education, physiology

>> No.12505061

>>12505029
There's either Oxford, Harvard, Cambridge book publishers.. one of them I forget which will bundle all the relevant papers on a subject and they have one for 'Time' something like 13 papers in the book (you can use library genesis).

>> No.12505077

>>12505061
Oh, you mean the Cambridge/Oxford Companions? I read some on other subjects before, but I didn't know there was one for time. Great advice, thanks for reminding me of them.

>> No.12505080

>>12505056
Why not. You mind is the fountain of truth.

Yes we are born with the belief of an external, objective, orderly world. But what if that is just your imagination.

>> No.12505083

>>12505029
Definitely start with relativity. (Make sure you have a good handle on special relativity before diving into GR)

You're still left with the Time's Arrow problem though. (All physics models except thermodynamics work just fine backwards or forwards, and noting that entropy always increases isn't actually explanatory)

After that, probably philosophy and cogsci to attack from the perception angle. Linguistics wouldn't hurt either, we operate with a ton of temporal assumptions embedded in the language.

Good luck timebro.

>> No.12505085

>>12505077
Yes that is exactly what I was thinking, I think it's the Cambridge companion to Time I sent it to somebody I know in prison once that asked for it.

>> No.12505762

>>12505060
dude what
is this b8?

>> No.12506563

>>12505038
based, me too anon you are not alone,anon

>> No.12507282

>>12505029
the answer surely lies in the ultimate theory of quantum gravity. in GR time is a gauge transformation. but GR is not the ultimate theory.

>> No.12508480

>>12507282
What are the pre-requisites for studying quantum gravity?

>> No.12508493

You will never understand the nature of time, being an object within time

>> No.12509432

>>12505029
You need to hear two smart sentances, you don't have to read 20 books because of it.

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12509498

>>12505029
Spirals.
In the matrix, the architect tells Neo that we are in the 6th version of The Matrix, which lines up with the 6th extinction entity in Death Stranding.

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12509536

>>12505029
Time doesn't exist, it has shown in T-symmetry we have the concept of """time""" because we have memory, but it really doesn't exist this is the failure on GR take an inexistent thing like a dimmension

>> No.12509898

>>12505029
Quantum gravity

>> No.12510400

>>12509536
Source?

>> No.12511477

>>12505029
GR is a good start for at least giving you a very different (but compatible) intuition about time. I would try to learn it from someone who presents it in a rigorously mathematical, yet philosophically inspired manner (as opposed to pop-science factoids, or engineering-style focus on equations)

>> No.12511653

>>12510400
Broooooooo, trust me.

>> No.12511706

>>12511477
>who presents it in a rigorously mathematical, yet philosophically inspired manner
Got anyone in mind?

>> No.12511712

>>12511706
I like Frederic Schuller. He might have an online course on the subject in English.

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12511747

>>12505029
>I just wanna know the ultimate truth of our universe and why we are here
The theology department is down the hall. Science is about making incorrect models that are "good enough".

>> No.12513459

>>12511747
Theology is about making models that you'll never be able to verify their veracity. I wanna concrete answers, not blind faith.

>> No.12513482

>>12513459
then read Kant and understand your limitations

>> No.12513499

>>12505029
philosophy

>> No.12513500

>>12505029
you should probably study time especially your biases about it.

>> No.12513719

>>12505029
Kant

>> No.12513732

>>12505038
>>12506563
the real world will hit you guys soon enough

>> No.12513889

>>12513732
Just because your motivation got destroyed by the hardships of the world, doesn't mean the same will happen to everyone. Like I said, don't project your own failures and shortcomings on other people.

>> No.12514761

>>12513719
This then read Bergson to realize how Kant got lived time in itself confused with space