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/sfg/ - Space Flight General: Angry Landers Edition Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:05:11 2020 No.12495014 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:20:25 2020 No.12495040 anger is stored in the balls

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:24:29 2020 No.12495052 >Jewish lander with a large nose >Chinese lander is at least half fake What's next, a JAXA lander with tentacles?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:33:25 2020 No.12495071 File: 191 KB, 970x653, Hayabusa_hover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495052 it's more like a horsecock bukakke

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:37:27 2020 No.12495078
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>What about these sanctions?
>1. They are illegal, however, like all earlier imposed sanctions against Russian individuals and legal entities.
>2. They are stupid because the "military end users" are arbitrarily classified as companies that are not and are not.

>For example, TSNIIMASH JSC is the leading branch scientific institute, it includes the ISS Mission Control Center, where a group of NASA specialists is permanently located. Should they not know that there is nothing there that could connect this institution with military research?

>Or, for example, the Progress RCC, which also in a strange way was included in this sanctions list. This Samara enterprise makes the legendary Soyuz-2 launch vehicles, with the help of which the Soyuz MS spacecraft has been delivering American astronauts to the ISS for already 10 years.

>Now, it turns out that our American colleagues have "started working" again, and the first thing they did was to spit in the Samara well. Isn't it too early, colleagues, suddenly again your "trampoline" will break and you will have to satisfy your passion for space from our well again?

>3. These sanctions are harmful, because they will create additional obstacles and irritations in such an important cooperation between Russians and Americans in space, in particular, on the ISS.

>Therefore, for the sake of preserving our common cause, I demand from the US Government these sanctions against our ...

>... businesses cancel immediately. Let's assume that this is a "misunderstanding".

>Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for International Cooperation in Space,
>Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Russian Federation,
>General Director of the State Corporation
>@roscosmos

>D.O. Rogozin

Bros.....

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:38:12 2020 No.12495079 Based fuck urf thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:40:36 2020 No.12495084 >>12495071 Don't forget India's SCATSAT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:44:16 2020 No.12495093 KSP2 sounds fucking awesome with interstellar travel and colonization mechanics, but we must resist the hype

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:44:31 2020 No.12495094
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>>12495078
>Isn't it too early, colleagues, suddenly again your "trampoline" will break and you will have to satisfy your passion for space from our well again?
Rogozin's tweets read like satire. I thought that facebook post or whatever from a couple days ago was fake, but it was real too. Truly rent free

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:46:09 2020 No.12495099 >>12495014 sorry anon didn't see you post this one

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:53:00 2020 No.12495104

>>12495094
>I wonder if gentle SpaceX is able to work in such conditions? But Russians don't care. We are used to frost. What's fine for a Russian, for Bokachikam means death
These comments would be based if the Russians weren't such a non-factor to SpaceX

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:57:47 2020 No.12495109 File: 117 KB, 1024x881, msedge_2nxVCW5MdS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] based planetary protectionist nsf poster figured out how to sterilize starship. i wonder what the procedure will be like when we have to sterilize humans

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:59:51 2020 No.12495115 >>12495093 I hope it can run in the same shitboxes as KSP 1.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:01:05 2020 No.12495119 >>12495115 KSP 1 has an obvious memory leak so hopefully KSP 2 is way better optimized.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:01:12 2020 No.12495120 >>12495109 Enemas, lots of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:01:49 2020 No.12495122 What are the bets that one of Elons kids will be first to land on Mars?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:02:16 2020 No.12495124 >>12495109 Planetary protection is dumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:03:16 2020 No.12495125 >>12495122 They’re pretty young still

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:06:30 2020 No.12495128 >>12495124 at the most recent mars society there was a planetary protectionist guy actually yelling at zubrin, i cant remember his name but he was so pissed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:09:01 2020 No.12495134 >>12495128 I'm sure he was the only person in the room to smell worse than Zubrin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:11:10 2020 No.12495137 >>12495109 Planetarey protectionist shall be sterilized

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:11:10 2020 No.12495138 File: 829 KB, 2000x1570, 1588771025374.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nevermind

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:12:37 2020 No.12495141 >>12495109 We must solve the problem of interplanetary travel first before considering planetary protection

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:26:31 2020 No.12495161 File: 677 KB, 798x665, Thud octaweb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who knew the MK-55 Thud could be so beautiful?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:27:48 2020 No.12495164 >>12495125 16 going on 17. 8 years until Mars mission giver 25 or so. could be possible

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:41:40 2020 No.12495183 hurricane season in boca chica will be interesting now that they've run out of room to store starships

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:42:58 2020 No.12495187

>>12495119
KSP 2 looks like it will be using more demanding graphics so I definitely would not count on that
>>12495093
there are mods with interstellar travel and colonization mechanics for KSP 1, but they are janky at what they do, as mods tend to be
all I wish for is that, with more consistent vision without need to have it clumsily bolted onto main code

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:57:51 2020 No.12495210 >>12495119 KSP2 is supposedly using the same engine as the original

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:59:19 2020 No.12495214 >>12495164 I'd test it first with some other guy's kids in case it goes wrong if I was Elon then again, everyone knows Neil Armstrong, some normies will even remember Buzz Aldrin hardly anyone knows about Harrison Schmitt or Eugene Cernan

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:05:07 2020 No.12495226 >>12495122 I thought elon wanted to be the first man on mars? Plus its 3 years till the first manned launch if all schedules go as planned. If they complete all milestones next year, the first manned launch will be in 2024?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:09:11 2020 No.12495231
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We’re Never Going to Mine the Asteroid Belt
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-12-21/space-mining-on-asteroids-is-never-going-to-happen?
https://pastebin.com/KcBXnbC4
Sorry guys, time to pack up

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:11:43 2020 No.12495236

>>12495094
Rogozin produces content for Russians to feel good about themselves, it's not intended for us in the west to translate and nitpick at. It's just like that ORIGINAL ROCKET DO NOT STEAL they got all butthurt and said they would stop sharing details about.
This is just the Russian way from old aparatchiks. Doesn't matter if they can produce, they can at least pretend in front of the people that they can produce.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:15:25 2020 No.12495246 >>12495236 that's all well and good for image, but the russian govt cant exactly be pleased as their space industry flatlines

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:17:59 2020 No.12495249

>>12495246
They lost golden goose number one, that's what Rogozin is fuming about still. They still have golden goose number two, Energia engines and their derivates.
Until the dumb fucks sell them to China like they're poised to do and they reverse engineer what's left of them. They don't give a fuck about gentlemen's agreements like we do in the west.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:21:53 2020 No.12495252

>>12495183
Hurricane season is over for this year and they have more than enough time to put up some more buildings if they're worried that. My guess would be that bolted down Starships won't have any trouble in hurricanes but everything else on the site would. I imagine they learned their lesson since one of the first prototypes broke free.
>>12495236
Surely the Russian people must be growing tired of this shell game trying to obscure the fact that they'll soon be noncompetitive in commercial launches. I mean if they haven't already, seeing as they're still using technology from nearly 80 years ago with limited modernization.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:22:04 2020 No.12495253 >>12495231 Retarded bloomberg opinion. Of course we are not gonna mine them for earth. Its for the people building new stuff on mars and other off-world colonies, especially the asteroids that harbor water.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:22:31 2020 No.12495254 >>12495249 Wont that be embarrassing to the russian psyche? China will pillage what little is left of the Soviet heritage before they discard Russia like trash or absorb them altogether

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:23:32 2020 No.12495255 >>12495078 Sanctions are pathetic, gotta give it to him.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:24:07 2020 No.12495256

>>12495252
I don't think the Russian people care any more than the average American cares about NASA to be honest.

>>12495254
Of course it will but do they know or care? Nobody is immune to propaganda and Russian media is fucking great at telling sunshine stories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:26:12 2020 No.12495257 >>12495256 Putin is not dumb. He has a goal and I'm not convinced merging with China is one of his endgames.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:27:08 2020 No.12495260 >>12495257 I honestly don't think he cares past money and power. What the fuck does he care about space? He's a fucking spook.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:32:20 2020 No.12495266

>>12495260
I don't think he cares about space exactly, but Russian existence, persistence, strength, security. Maybe pride isnt one of those, but I have a hard time believing partnership with China helps Russia long term. It feels more like chipping away at Russian power

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:34:30 2020 No.12495269 >>12495266 So selling engine tech to them won't do jack shit to Russian borders. They already sold them capsule tech and station tech. Didn't make them invade from the south. Russia has nukes. Nobody's going to fuck with that shit.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:46:38 2020 No.12495281

>>12495255
Yes, but what other option does polite society have to react when they keep smearing nerve agents on the underwear lining of opposition politicians and the like?
If they could just stop acting like fucking Bond villains for a bit, this wouldn't be necessary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:48:03 2020 No.12495284 >>12495281 >If they could just stop acting like fucking Bond villains for a bit, this wouldn't be necessary. I agree. It's an unfortunate compromise. I suppose nowadays we take apparent peace too much for granted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:49:55 2020 No.12495287 why does all mars concepts have domes? we havent even bothered trying to build massive pressure domes on earth. cant it just be a big rectangular glass ceiling?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:50:49 2020 No.12495289 >>12495287 Domes, particularly ones made of interlocked triangles are far stronger than rectangles.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:56:22 2020 No.12495296

>>12495289
i dont care about comparitive strength, i care about efficiency in construction and value per area/volume. if you can build something that's strong enough rather than maximum strong, who cares? at some point it comes down to cost efficiency. also domes dont scale particularly well if you need to add real estate. modular rectangular greenhouses make more sense because expansion is less costly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:58:10 2020 No.12495299 >>12495231 Can brainlets just stop writing articles? Can't we just holocaust them all? So his one and only criticism is that it's expensive to shoot things OUT of EARTH'S gravity well? Has this subhuman heard of "falling"?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:59:16 2020 No.12495305

>>12495296
Well, most people care about "shit that won't collapse immediately".
The concepts are for big ass enclosures and glass rectangles don't do big ass enclosures. Ask any engineer. The concepts are also for shit not made in situ.

Think about that. Weight budget.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:02:20 2020 No.12495317 >>12495299 Yeah, that's a fucking dimwit article. Uses the fact that we found extremely small amounts of liquid water where we didn't expect it in the sunny side craters of the moon as an example of how rare water was.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:03:54 2020 No.12495321

>>12495305
Im arguing for multiple small ass enclosures rather than one hugeass enclosure. maybe i just dont see value in a massive enclosure aside from it being cool to put a park inside. i figured crops would be grown in underground hydroponics farms with artificial sunlight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:05:28 2020 No.12495325 >>12495231 >jew journal >jew article writer >retarded and defeatist article opinion discarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:05:36 2020 No.12495326 >>12495321 Yeah, that'd be early ages but you know concept artists always show "what can be done" given time. Lots of time. Early Mars colony efforts will be living in buried fucking containers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:07:16 2020 No.12495329 >>12495317 i wouldnt be surprised if we found fucking motherlode veins of water ice, carbon, nitrogen and phospherous on the moon. one does not do prospecting from orbit lmao

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:09:20 2020 No.12495330

>>12495329
Oh yes. What we've done with the moon is go pick up a couple of handfuls of rocks, a few shovels of sand and said "we've done that, nothing more to see here, never going back".
It's fucking maddening to see people have that mindset when you have shit like KAGUYA sending back data from orbit telling us that it's giving off way more carbon emissions than can be accounted for than micrometeorites and solar winds etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:13:02 2020 No.12495338 >>12495330 just need starship to make travel cheap and get some old guard mining companies up there to drill cores across the whole surface. sent human scouts and prospectors. maybe a couple geologists idk haha just kidding...but maybe

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:14:05 2020 No.12495342 >>12495338 Oh the planetary protection shitheads will probably throw shitfits should anyone even try anything. Those people should go right in the incinerator, for "planetary protection".

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:16:12 2020 No.12495346 File: 3.56 MB, 4961x3508, syvmva3xpk661.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/fael097/status/1341070392509739014?s=19

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:18:03 2020 No.12495349 File: 252 KB, 1809x1167, 20201222_061537.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495346 i like this guy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:27:20 2020 No.12495356 LOL at astronomers seething about thousands of LEO sats. just wait until SpaceX is putting MILLIONS AND BILLIONS of sats in LEO AHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:38:37 2020 No.12495379 >>12495349 goatse

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:48:17 2020 No.12495398 Dynetics lander looks so kino and comfy compared to National Team Btw isn’t «dynetic» the Bible of the Scinetologists ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:54:44 2020 No.12495414 File: 368 KB, 1875x900, anon's rocket powered seaplane.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the most KSP-tier idea you've seen posted here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:02:30 2020 No.12495426 >>12495109 >sterilize humans Literally impossible without killing us. We rely on tons of microrganisms to live. Wherever humans go, Earth origin bacteria and microbes are also going.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:05:49 2020 No.12495432 >>12495109 Fiddling with Starship in all her nook and crannies!

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:07:03 2020 No.12495434

Found this recent interview with Gwynne, lots of interesting bits sprinkled around.
https://youtu.be/GomoD0rYhJ8
>to settle mars you need hundreds of launches a week or dozens a day o_o
>need a serious production system, producing falcon 9 is really hard
>starlink effect on sky is a not a big deal but will try to do the right thing
>not interested in servicing leo sats, better to go up and grab it (for recycling?), and just keep launching more
>hope biden admin keeps "absurdly ambitious goal of going to moon by 2024"
>hates being in media spotlight
>wants to meet the aliens, send people to other stars
>not personally interested in going to mars, but large share of employees are willing to go
>SpaceX will probably make their own EVA suits
>suit team has talked about making suits for "other environments"
>Gwynne has not seen a concept or prototype yet
>she uses the settlement word in reference to mars
>they would love to get Starship launch costs down to "a few million" but it will take a while to get there
>looking like Starship will be in the 50 million dollar range (assuming early on)
>internally talked about launching Europa Clipper
>SpaceX doesnt want to build the entire mars settlement industrial stack
>havent looked into galilean moon settlement
>talks about how she grew into her roles at SpaceX
>wants to up the ante on increasing space excitement
>webcasts are great, but we dont want people to get bored

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:07:56 2020 No.12495436 >>12495414 >Project Poseidon Stopped reading there lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:10:43 2020 No.12495443 >>12495434 >SpaceX will probably make their own EVA suits The buzz lightyear prototype is ugly. Apollo’s are the kinoest

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:13:23 2020 No.12495449 >>12495434 So they go from 50 million for ~10 tons to 50 million for ~100 tons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:15:51 2020 No.12495456 >>12495449 something like that, but hard to say. she didnt clarify if that was one launch of 100ton to leo or a launch plus refueling flights. i assume just one launch, so sending that to mars would be much more expensive

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:17:34 2020 No.12495460 Is Elon a real engineer or just a moneyman?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:17:42 2020 No.12495462 >>12495449 >>12495456 should add, 50mil sounds like price not cost. bet cost per launch to spacex might be under 20mil

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:22:05 2020 No.12495474 >>12495462 so they'd be taking more profits since marginal costs are decreased, but total price is constant. rideshare would be cheaper still

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:41:03 2020 No.12495506 >>12495109 What bacteria can survive in the temps of mars surface at 2% earth air pressure... Fucking planetary protection

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:48:01 2020 No.12495524 File: 36 KB, 624x351, p02lv29w.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495506 Don't know about that, but there's plenty sturdy motherfuckers on Earth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:56:26 2020 No.12495539 File: 540 KB, 2048x1536, sn9baby.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] both flaps have been fixed, and she is going to the launch pad

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:57:25 2020 No.12495542

>>12495506
If we've made bacteria that survives on plastics, i'm sure we can make them to survive on the perchlorates on martian soil. Plus they also survive on feeding sulphur in underwater volcanic vents. Lots of research opportunities will open up once we land on mars. The mars deniers can't cope, there are so many fucking things waiting to open up once its established that we can land on another planet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:57:30 2020 No.12495543 File: 375 KB, 1536x2048, sn9isout.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495539

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:58:39 2020 No.12495545 >>12495539 such as sleek motherfucker

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:58:43 2020 No.12495546 >>12495342 Why do they care? Who are they preserving these planets for? Just don't get it. Are they just saying "let's not have progress ever" for the fun of it? ?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:59:26 2020 No.12495547

>>12495246
Why? The amount of western money they get through it is absolutely minimal and the US interest in funding them so that their rocket scientists dont run away to China/Iran etc no longer really applies. No money - no point. For the effort they put into launching one rocket just to brag about they could fund hundreds of disinfo propaganda campaigns with far greater effect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:03:02 2020 No.12495551 >>12495460 Here's a bunch of quotes from real scientists/engineers about Musk https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/k1e0ta/evidence_that_musk_is_the_chief_engineer_of_spacex/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:06:54 2020 No.12495558 >>12495052 American lander that's larger than any other Canadian lander with a big solar panel thst looks like a beaver tail

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:08:16 2020 No.12495564

>>12495546
The PP guys fall into several groups
>Misanthropes
These are the gaiaist worshiping type that absolutely hate human development and the idea of humans spreading around is utterly terrifying to them. It's basically their version of the End Times. They view humanity as cancer. Usually the source of most wild bullshit stems from here.
>Bureaucratic careerists
These types are your average sleazy bastard who give no fucks about anything but keeping his job doubly so if the job is worthless and in danger of being found out as such. These guys tend to twist scientific arguments into pseudo science (if we contaminate Mars we'll never know if its alien bacteria - despite the fact any lab can easily tell!) and otherwise reword what the misanthropes are saying into slightly more acceptable-speak because its convenient. It's just a job.
>Foreign shills
These use PP as means to cripple western space presence and their number will MASSIVELY grow once the notion of space colonies actually becomes feasible (they are not that dedicated right now when you've got that one rover every decade or so)

Finally, you have the normalfags who might pick up a fad from a movie, article, book, or anything really and of course some economic interests and politics.

Quite complicated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:09:19 2020 No.12495567 >>12495426 Don't send people until all scientific research is done then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:11:59 2020 No.12495570 >>12495539 >>12495543 Good gal. Time for Christmas cryo test, static fire, and New Year's launch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:14:09 2020 No.12495575 File: 393 KB, 651x791, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HAPPENING, WE NEED YOUR HELP /SFG/ FAGGOTS https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1341400202360582149

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:22:34 2020 No.12495585 >>12495109 >a guy calling himself a Radical Moderate >retarded opinion Checks out.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:28:37 2020 No.12495593

>>12495460
the engineering is impressive, but BTFOing the military-industrial complex and all the world's national space programs with a lean, efficient corporate structure and software-inspired development methodology is much more impressive than any feat of engineering SpaceX has accomplished.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:42:44 2020 No.12495609 Daily reminder that you need to expend your launch towers after one use. And your crawlers after three.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:44:01 2020 No.12495612 File: 117 KB, 500x584, 1578682703124.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495414 >fuel up launcher and cargo module >they're too heavy to float and they sink

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:47:11 2020 No.12495614 >>12495256 Russians are proud of the USSR

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:47:13 2020 No.12495615 >>12495460 >just a moneyman? He's a manager. And so far pretty much all his managing decisions have worked out, most of them immensely, despite tremendous risks involved. What does it matter what he can or cannot design by himself.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:48:13 2020 No.12495616

>>12495281
>Yes, but what other option does polite society have to react when they keep smearing nerve agents on the underwear lining of opposition politicians and the like?

Who gives a fuck how Putin deals with his rivals? None of my business how he cleans house

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:48:35 2020 No.12495617 >>12495612 What's up with Boeing ? why are they slow/failing ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:49:37 2020 No.12495620 >>12495615 Where did he learn to manage so effectively ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:50:56 2020 No.12495624 File: 178 KB, 593x768, Human_Landing_System_Stand_In.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When you take look at the HLS placeholder, it's pretty clear who will win the bid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:52:27 2020 No.12495627 I wanna go to Mars end of

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:53:17 2020 No.12495628 File: 3.67 MB, 700x298, 1475380649882.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when Long March 8 vanished into the smog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bEyHprPq9w

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:55:34 2020 No.12495636 >>12495628 >time in "when chang"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:56:58 2020 No.12495639 >>12495628 RIP honestly I always hope these launches go well. The best path to a strong American space program is a strong Chinese space program. Americans get too lazy when there's no competition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:57:12 2020 No.12495640 File: 1.28 MB, 1285x710, 1588646172970.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] crane is ready to receive

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:58:25 2020 No.12495642 File: 469 KB, 2048x1536, 1592070577204.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495543 >>12495539 did they replace the damaged aft flap or no? Looks fixed either way

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:09:21 2020 No.12495660 File: 7 KB, 298x169, index.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So what will be old space's excuses to continue to pursue new composite body rocket boosters once SpaceX goes to the moon & is producing their rockets like 747s?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:11:02 2020 No.12495663 >>12495660 It'll show just how deep the corruption runs when they continue to get contracts

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:14:49 2020 No.12495667 >>12495663 They can get their satellite contracts when Chang the billionaire intends to gain infinite Social Score points by pounding on Musk's door to send a habitat to the moon & people to the moon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:15:12 2020 No.12495668 >>12495660 Assured access to space, maintaining industrial capacity for military uses, and preventing monopoly by a single company.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:15:56 2020 No.12495671 >>12495660 >sure they deliver cheap launches but we can deliver custom and reliable launches >they spend so much on maintaining a public image while we focus on getting results >we focus on having a sustainable launch infrastructure >space is hard

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:22:13 2020 No.12495681

>>12495434
>they would love to get Starship launch costs down to "a few million" but it will take a while to get there
>looking like Starship will be in the 50 million dollar range (assuming early on)
This is what I've been thinking all along. People need to temper their expectations with Starship pricing. It's not gonna be the 7-figure super heavy lifter that many people are hoping for, at least not at first since there's no need for SpaceX to undercut its competitors by that much. Plus, this >>12495449 is still revolutionary, especially when compared to SLS.

>>12495624
NASA outlined the three-piece architecture (transfer, descent, ascent) that the National Team uses, and I think originally they only wanted landers that followed that architecture. National Team went ahead with that architecture, while the others didn't. The HLS placeholder is a holdover from when NASA asserted that a three-piece lander was the best option.
Also did they just say fuck it with the ladder and expect the astronauts to disembark KSP-style?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:32:16 2020 No.12495697 File: 79 KB, 720x778, A5039048-3B42-4B85-AF59-0DAA9FB33034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495094 >What Are south Texas hurricaines for $500

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:35:34 2020 No.12495704

>>12495617
They went decades without doing anything new and got use to it working, now they need to design new planes / rockets they don't have anyone that knows how anymore.
>Delta rocket introduced 60 years ago
>737 introduced 53 yeasr ago
>747 introduced 50 years ago
The last major design change to any of these was the Delta IV introduced in 2002.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:42:14 2020 No.12495723
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>>12495668
The government itself is a monopoly, and it uniquely gets the ability to set standards, give or reject access, and regulate itself as well as it's own competitors through completely legal means which hold essentially zero consequences for them if they use those legal tools in a malicious or corrupt manner.
Drop a fucking rock, interplanetary war when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:42:55 2020 No.12495727 >>12495183 >lay starships belly-side down >cover them with a tarp that's staked down >protect them from hurricane winds and salty sea air

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:45:02 2020 No.12495732 >>12495567 Humans can the work a single rover does in 3 years in like 3 days. You aren't ever going finish all "scientific research" without putting boots on the ground.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:45:55 2020 No.12495736
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>KSP2 introducing more emotions for kerbals
>that one preview showing that rockets will still be floppy as hell shows a kerbal countdown
I wonder if they're gonna ditch the reversed spanish idea and just create a language for the kerbals themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:47:13 2020 No.12495739 >>12495727 Are these comfy Starbeds also going to have 20ft legs? Because storm surge is what will wreck their shit even if they're spared the winds of a direct hit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:47:48 2020 No.12495744 SNINE IS ON THE MOVE!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:48:15 2020 No.12495745 >>12495567 We just need to make sure their isn't native life before we start sending / retrieving unsterile spacecraft / people. If the places we are going are dead it doesn't matter if we bring life there.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:50:20 2020 No.12495753

>>12495642
they put one of SN10's flaps on it
>That has resulted in several days of remedy work, including the use of an aero surface that was originally designated for SN10’s nosecone – which itself is undergoing mating operations inside the Wind Break facility.
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/12/starship-sn9-roll-launch-site-super-heavy-ramps-up/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:50:36 2020 No.12495755 >>12495681 >Also did they just say fuck it with the ladder and expect the astronauts to disembark KSP-style? It's to help them get rid of the dust + have the cabin far from the projections of the plume iirc

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:52:23 2020 No.12495760 >>12495739 I assume. Do Starships need stringers inside their tanks to hold them together effectively while lying horizontally and empty? I've heard that laying them on their side without pressurization would crush them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:55:35 2020 No.12495773 >>12495681 Someone just got lazy while making that render.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:56:30 2020 No.12495777
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>>12495723
My hope is that the glorified bloggers who demand diversity will cause the public to take a hard jerk to the right to move away from social engineering to getting back to making progress with Space flight.

I'm hoping that the public will jerk back from "people" like this women.

As in "hey wait a minute, weren't the "far right" were upset about these types of people? Ok, I see why they were upset.".

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:56:33 2020 No.12495778 File: 112 KB, 728x546, altas bend.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495760 IIRC Musk didn't want stringers because weight but ended up needing them so it wouldn't go full Atlas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:57:18 2020 No.12495782 File: 2.24 MB, 444x250, PossibleLazyEagle-size_restricted.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495755

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:59:31 2020 No.12495788 >>12495755 The "dust mitigation" meme is complete wank, they made a stupid design and when asked why it was so stupid they went with the first answer that came to mind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:00:45 2020 No.12495793 >>12495753 I was specifically curious about the aft starboard flap. It was damaged but not as badly. I'm curious if they just banged out the dents or if they got a whole new one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:01:17 2020 No.12495794 File: 48 KB, 879x485, dong.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >8 years >$3 billion >no fucking rocket Is it just SLS Jr. at this point?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:04:00 2020 No.12495802 >>12495794 It was from the start. I find it funny so many people believe the "heavy industry on the moon" bullshit. Jeff just saw ULA getting billions for nothing and wanted in on that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:04:08 2020 No.12495803 >>12495793 I didn't find any info about the aft flaps, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:05:19 2020 No.12495804 >>12495802 But I don't want to be a fanboy. I want something to be excited about that's NOT coming from SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:06:20 2020 No.12495809 File: 1.64 MB, 1948x1096, 1605117480721.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495744 hope it's not too windy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:06:36 2020 No.12495810 >>12495804 I know that feel, unironically look at JAXA and China if you want to see progress from anyone but SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:10:41 2020 No.12495818 >>12495231 I want to write one of these opinion pieces where all it says is "It's all useless, there's no point to existing, end it now" and featuring an image of a noose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:12:42 2020 No.12495824 File: 180 KB, 336x400, C16017B4-6B6F-4C79-B98C-21E0DF8C3C4F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495231

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:13:57 2020 No.12495827 >>12495744 >>12495809 SN9 FEELIN' FINE

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:15:28 2020 No.12495830 File: 100 KB, 768x1024, 1594981308877.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] she's gonna tip over, isn't she

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:15:49 2020 No.12495831

>>12495253
>>12495299
>>12495325
>>12495818
>>12495824
You guys are forgetting who their audience is, they are just trying to stop retarded boomers from tanking the metal markets because they think we are going to land a million tons of tungsten in 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:19:09 2020 No.12495838 >>12495830 That would truly make it the Shinji of Starships.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:19:24 2020 No.12495840 >>12495831 Good point >>12495078 I feel bad for roscosmos at this point >>12495830 Each succeeding SN prototype looks better and better. I can’t wait to see superheavy, and a starship upper stage with full heat shielding

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:19:41 2020 No.12495841 SHE MOV'N AGAIN

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:20:47 2020 No.12495842 File: 766 KB, 776x830, 1602498543099.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] launch pad B having a party

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:20:57 2020 No.12495843 >>12495830 which SN is going to have full heat shielding?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:21:59 2020 No.12495847 >>12495842 >they actually kept the nosecone based

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:22:20 2020 No.12495848

>>12495593
>BTFOing the military-industrial complex and all the world's national space programs with a lean, efficient corporate structure and software-inspired development methodology is much more impressive than any feat of engineering SpaceX has accomplished
Given that the MIC self-sabotages and drags shit out for more money, I have to disagree. It's embarrassing to see how quickly one guy with money and motivation was able to put a company together that got so far ahead so quickly. Just makes you wonder where things would be if so much time and money didn't get wasted by contented management.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:23:26 2020 No.12495850

For those who want to spend 6+ hours watching SN9 slowly move to the pad
>Good views of the build site where SN9 currently is:
https://youtu.be/n5ozYnVQahE
https://youtu.be/am2kw1TCNAk

>long-distance view:
https://youtu.be/qNyEwBW0ZJA

>launch site view. Nothing there right now but SN9 will get there eventually
https://youtu.be/Ky5l9ZxsG9M

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:24:03 2020 No.12495852

>>12495843
I would think that if SN9 sticks the landing, they will just reuse it and reuse it so long as all the sensors say it’s still healthy. They might slap heat shields on the rest of the body and send it to orbit. (I could be wrong though. Idk if SN9 is capable of life in a vacuum but it might be)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:25:34 2020 No.12495856 File: 1.37 MB, 1948x1096, 1590786259278.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] big girl >>12495852 yeah, they're probably going to push her until she fails

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:26:12 2020 No.12495858 >>12495850 Does it really take 6 hours?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:26:44 2020 No.12495860 >>12495575 REPORTING IN SIR

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:26:49 2020 No.12495861 >>12495847 >they keep the biggest part of each failed test >create the worlds most interesting rocket garden

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:27:03 2020 No.12495864 >>12495858 4-5 to get it to the launch site. Then who knows how long to attach it to the crane and lift it onto the pad and secure it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:29:10 2020 No.12495868 >>12495810 What's JAXA been doing lately?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:29:31 2020 No.12495869 >>12495226 That seems way too risky, what if it goes wrong and he just dies, what happens to all these businesses. I think he said he wants to die on Mars though, but I don't think blowing up during landing is quite what he meant

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:31:37 2020 No.12495874 >>12495830 Looks a little better then SN9, but not crazy better. It'll probably not be until around SN14 or SN15 I'm guessing that they start looking really clean.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:31:48 2020 No.12495875 File: 259 KB, 494x315, output.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We moving 5 cm per second

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:32:33 2020 No.12495879 >>12495868 H3 soon, it isn't revolutionary but it's an improvement for them.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:32:48 2020 No.12495881
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/nasa-killed-all-monkeys-on-single-day

>>Every monkey held by Nasa was put to death on a single day last year, documents obtained by the Guardian show, in a move that has enraged animal welfare campaigners.

Kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:34:32 2020 No.12495883 >>12495881 Why'd NASA purge their D-class like that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:34:45 2020 No.12495884 >>12495874 Isn't SN15 the one where they actually use the new steel or are they already using it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:35:08 2020 No.12495885 >>12495847 It will be moved after SN9 is lifted or something. They need the landing pad cleared for next attempt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:35:22 2020 No.12495886 File: 183 KB, 1608x902, ss protypes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495852 >>12495856 It's sort of mind-bottling that fabrication is already well underway for SN17

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:35:57 2020 No.12495888 >>12495884 They've been using it since SN8. SN9 is the first that is totally made of the new steel I think

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:36:50 2020 No.12495890

>>12495881
>they were housed at the Ames facility in a joint care arrangement between Nasa and LifeSource BioMedical, a separate drug research entity which leases space at the center and housed the primates.
>Stephanie Solis, chief executive of LifeSource BioMedical, said the primates were given to the laboratory “years ago” after a sanctuary could not be found for them due to their age and poor health. “We agreed to accept the animals, acting as a sanctuary and providing all care at our own cost, until their advanced age and declining health resulted in a decision to humanely euthanize to avoid a poor quality of life,” she said.
sounds like NASA didn't do anything, then

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:37:16 2020 No.12495891 File: 338 KB, 2048x1444, heatshield.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:38:39 2020 No.12495898 >>12495886 Isn’t SN20 supposed to be the first “real” starship? Or has the plan changed since then

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:39:28 2020 No.12495901 >>12495881 Why isn't NASA in all-caps in that article? It's an acronym, not a name.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:40:07 2020 No.12495903 >>12495898 iirc the goal is for the first operational starship to be in the late teens. Although MK1 was the first real starship and they would have operationalized it if it worked out perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:41:01 2020 No.12495905 >>12495414 Nuclear autophagic NSWR class Shuttle SRB sized solid rockets.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:41:29 2020 No.12495906

>>12495883
A monkey is disposable, simple as that.

From 2010
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna40648441

>>The experiment, which would have been conducted at NASA's Space Radiation Laboratory at the Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island, called for exposing 27 squirrel monkeys to high-energy gamma-ray radiation so researchers could observe its effects on the monkeys health and task performance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:42:11 2020 No.12495907 File: 3.98 MB, 4272x2848, 1597861669820.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495874 SN10 nosecone is already an improvement over SN9

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:42:23 2020 No.12495910 >>12495898 >>12495903 Considering how far along that first BFR stack is, they've got to be dying to fling something into orbit soon A Cybertruck?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:43:29 2020 No.12495912 >>12495903 I heard that as soon elon saw mk1 in person he knew it would never work and at that point they changed the plans to only do a a pressure test

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:44:07 2020 No.12495914 >>12495906 >dispose of all monkeys >now have no monkeys So why'd they do that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:44:12 2020 No.12495915 >>12495910 >A Cybertruck? Grimes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:44:50 2020 No.12495918 >>12495910 probably starlink sats. They've got a huge backlog, and the actual insertion into orbit is less risky than the reentry and landing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:45:54 2020 No.12495919 >>12495910 a frog

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:46:07 2020 No.12495920 File: 53 KB, 1024x683, 1559830753117.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495697 What is "you have to go back"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:49:01 2020 No.12495929 >>12495910 Rogozin

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:49:06 2020 No.12495930 File: 507 KB, 1920x1080, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] .

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:50:12 2020 No.12495931 >>12495930 why are you such a fucking nigger?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:50:29 2020 No.12495933 File: 173 KB, 616x960, 1591052354632.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495881 >>12495883 >>12495906 >>12495914

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:53:26 2020 No.12495940 File: 304 KB, 1275x673, giggidy.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:54:29 2020 No.12495941 >>12495930 OH NO NO NO NO

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:55:14 2020 No.12495943 >>12495919 Crrrrunchy frrrrogs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:55:36 2020 No.12495944 >>12495940 l-lewd

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:55:43 2020 No.12495946

>>12495843
Hm, assuming they keep destroying them through various iterations, maybe 12 or 13? I think Elon said something once about it not being fully mature till SN20. I'd say SN-15 thorough SN-20 will be essentially identical except that they'll probably be experimenting with the cargo door which will have to be invented at some point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:56:08 2020 No.12495947 >>12495843 SN15

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:56:41 2020 No.12495950 >>12495881 >nooo you can't kill innocent monkarinos!!!1 takes bite of cheeseburger

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:58:23 2020 No.12495954 File: 99 KB, 523x1024, 1603337282472.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >pathetic

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:00:07 2020 No.12495959 >>12495933 Attachment nothing, I'm just wondering why they wasted their resource all at once like that. Did they just decide "no more chimps" all of a sudden?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:02:01 2020 No.12495960 >>12495585 He's a status quo fetishist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:04:52 2020 No.12495969 >>12495959 >resource They're FUCKING OLD, they were retired years ago, you stupid NPC.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:06:06 2020 No.12495971 >>12495954 I-I'm sorry I ever doubted you, SN9-sama. Please forgive me

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:06:14 2020 No.12495972 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Ik089A5nc

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:08:43 2020 No.12495978 File: 90 KB, 879x485, slscorestage-rollout-879x485.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495954 AAUUUUGH PLEASE, STARSHIP I KNEEL JUST STOP OUTMODING ME AIEEE!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:12:33 2020 No.12495988 >>12495969 It was a perfectly reasonable question, if you don't have the answer to it then don't bother replying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:15:06 2020 No.12495998 >nasa spends billions of dollars for a crawler to transport its rockets around >spacex uses a truck my tax dollars. wasted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:16:28 2020 No.12496002 >>12495988 It was already answered >>12495890 >>12495906 you faggot, lurk moar.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:17:02 2020 No.12496004 >>12495998 For Saturn the Crawler was needed, they kept it around for the shittle because they already had it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:17:05 2020 No.12496005 >>12495891 Soo... I'm taking bets on what happens to these.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:17:36 2020 No.12496006 >>12495998 Why don't they use trains like the soviets?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:18:02 2020 No.12496008 >>12496002 I would not be your friend, because you are unpleasant.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:19:28 2020 No.12496012 File: 646 KB, 523x1024, sn9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495954 9 is the strongest

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:19:30 2020 No.12496013 >SN9 is gonna land right in the middle of SN8's wreckage

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:19:44 2020 No.12496015 File: 41 KB, 396x382, 1440336307970.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496008

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:19:52 2020 No.12496016 SN-9 MOVING https://youtu.be/upNvJ61NvFc

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:21:04 2020 No.12496020 >stress about Elon catching the chinavirus during a high-pressure time like now >forget he already had it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:23:46 2020 No.12496025 File: 1.10 MB, 4288x2848, apple-naut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496015 I am sorry that you were upset by my post, try not to stay mad about it all day anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:24:54 2020 No.12496027 >>12495078 >Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Russian Federation God I wish that were me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:25:59 2020 No.12496032 >>12495727 starships buckled when laid on thier side, that's why they keep them vertical

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:27:25 2020 No.12496034 File: 104 KB, 625x1000, 9781429910606.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495231 Post cool cover art showing otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:29:31 2020 No.12496039 >>12495231 Asteroid mining is a meme. Just mine the moon for Helium 3

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:30:28 2020 No.12496040 File: 140 KB, 900x491, MAKC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12495639 Expressing any pro-chinese sentiment should be a bannable offense. Also, they took this from us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:31:42 2020 No.12496047 File: 433 KB, 1396x355, MAKC_AN225.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496040

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:34:29 2020 No.12496053 >>12495881 Based NASA

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:37:14 2020 No.12496056 >>12495231 Depends on the definition of "we" >humans wrong >urfers correct, terrans will never claim the wealth of the belt

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:38:25 2020 No.12496058 >>12495736 dutch is always a good fit for sim languages

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:39:34 2020 No.12496063 [DELETED]

>>12495777
Right wing ideology is demonized as modern day's equivalent of satanism in the middle ages. Right wing as in right from hefty bit to the left of center. US is probably the last remaining western country that has reasonably sized population supporting centrist and right wing politicians and policies. Your last president was basically a centrist as far as I'm concerned and he was literally Hitler according to the world. Distinctly remember reading newspaper about children locked in concentration camps on the southern US border. Tears from their eyes and all. I'm expecting steady and continuous descent into total batshit insanity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:39:52 2020 No.12496064 >>12495901 because bong media is retarded like that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:40:50 2020 No.12496066 File: 253 KB, 1536x2048, 1603411153315.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BEEP BEEP

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:41:03 2020 No.12496068 >>12496064 Why don't they just stop being autistic and accept it like radar?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:41:20 2020 No.12496069 >>12495930 The absolute state of muskrats!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:42:42 2020 No.12496074 >>12496063 yep, Trump was called Hitler for a MILD enforcement of existing federal immigration statutes in response to millions of """asylum seekers""" from central america flooding the border. Welcome to Biden's america.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:42:48 2020 No.12496075 File: 19 KB, 601x380, SN9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do they expect SN9 to go any different than SN8? If they can't get fuel to the bottom of the tanks when doing the flop, we're just gonna see more gree flames and kaboom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:42:49 2020 No.12496076 Based NSF ignoring chat and producing a KINO timelapse

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:42:52 2020 No.12496077

>>12495161
Me, I fucking love the Thud. I put clusters of 4 on the bottom of TALL 1.25 meter stacks and go to space. I've also put clusters of 10 on the base of 2.5 meter vehicles (a ring of 8 and 2 in the middle) to do reusable first stages, since Thuds have a great gimbal range and thrust area density.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:43:50 2020 No.12496082 >>12496063 Pretty much all of the agrarian population of america does so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:43:51 2020 No.12496081 >>12496075 Because they probably got a ton of data from SN8 to help them address the header tank low pressure issue during landing

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:44:37 2020 No.12496084 >>12496081 cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:44:49 2020 No.12496086 >>12496075 Apparently they have these guys called engineers working on the project. Its strange but anything is possible these days. Whoever heard of a thing called "engineering"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:45:49 2020 No.12496091 >>12495940 What's that supposed to be?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:46:10 2020 No.12496093 >>12496086 No. scientists. we have to listen to them.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:46:24 2020 No.12496096

>>12496075
Just lucking it out what else can they do? It's not like there's tools invented by people to attempt and predict outcomes of certain sequence of actions or anything. Soon it's running out though mark my words they can't keep burning something close to 4 billion US tax dollars every year and get away with it. It's ending and soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:46:35 2020 No.12496097 >>12496081 >>12496086 Sure, but I don't think they had time to implement new designs into SN9, unless it was a simple malfunction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:47:34 2020 No.12496101 >>12496097 I agree with you. Industry standard time to fix things like this would take 4 years and $5 billion dollar each year.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:48:21 2020 No.12496103 >>12496084 Cope with what? What's the alternative answer to my reply? Elon would try the same thing and expect different results?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:49:55 2020 No.12496105 [DELETED]

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>>12496063
>Your last president was basically a centrist as far as I'm concerned and he was literally Hitler according to the world.

You mean to the Marxist press.

In Germany a politician told his voters that if they didn't like the mass migration then they need to emigrate, which would make them migrants as well.

His voters didn't like his cockyness so they voted him out of office. years later somebody tracked the politician down to his house and put a bullet in his head.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:50:02 2020 No.12496106 >>12496097 Pretty sure the issue was pressure, which they can fix by tweaking the amount of gas that gets used to raise the tank pressure

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:50:55 2020 No.12496109 >>12496103 Don't reply to low-effort shitposts anon, they're not worth the effort.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:51:00 2020 No.12496110 File: 773 KB, 1920x1080, no kids women.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496105 This is what the dead politician's supporters were concerned about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:54:48 2020 No.12496116 >>12496106 Well, Elon never told why there was low pressure. Actually, we don't know how much of the landing burn header tanks are supposed to help with.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:55:54 2020 No.12496122

>>12496106
This was the issue, yes. Specifically the methane header tank pressure dropped below minimum, at which point the engines became fuel starved and one shut down, while the other continued to run and tried to throttle to maximum but ended up going super oxygen rich as the oxygen flow was normal while the methane flow was way reduced. This harsh oxygen rich exhaust is what started eroding the copper, and thus turned the flame green.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:56:24 2020 No.12496124 >>12496110 Can't you see all the rocket scientists comming to you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:02:17 2020 No.12496138 File: 95 KB, 634x469, manchild.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496110 >some of these will write in their age as... 12 >and it'll be accepted as legit This is why we can't have nice things like lunar olympics or jovian colonies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:03:37 2020 No.12496144 File: 816 KB, 1712x966, 1605931048284.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:05:21 2020 No.12496148 File: 295 KB, 1948x1096, 1608450816165.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496144

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:08:40 2020 No.12496163 File: 446 KB, 1000x667, microsoft-print050302.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496124 look at the kids in this image here. Which one is studying, and which one Microsoft thinks is tomorrow's rocket scientist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:08:53 2020 No.12496164 >>12495886 >20 Dec >SN9 missing upper right flap Did SpaceX really swap it that quickly, or was the pic not updated correctly? Been under a rock for the past few days, last I saw the flap was still crunched.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:09:07 2020 No.12496166 >>12496063 Not even his own border facilities, they were literally built under the previous president, who was hailed as gods fucking gift to progressives.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:10:08 2020 No.12496169 >>12496144 https://youtu.be/cHWs3c3YNs4?t=40 Put this on in the background.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:10:52 2020 No.12496172 >>12496163 The future is female. Get over it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:11:00 2020 No.12496174 >>12495848 >contented management The fucking bane of anybody trying to improve this world are those fucks

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:12:29 2020 No.12496176 >>12496163 >"niggers do nothing!" >"okay we will make a poster encouraging them to be rocket scientists" >"TAKING OUR JOBS"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:13:37 2020 No.12496178 File: 3.80 MB, 3132x1548, 36-75 year old white males are holding up the economy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496172 Women don't care about space.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:13:46 2020 No.12496180 >>12496063 >>12496074 >>12496082 >>12496105 >>12496110 Looks like you got lost! Here you go: >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:13:59 2020 No.12496182 >>12495434 wow great writeup, thanks

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:14:23 2020 No.12496185

>>12495231
>It's just not worth mining asteroids for an economic wealth greater than the entire modern day Earth's economy.
At least i understand why it took us so long to start building shit like starship, most people have a fucking 1st grade level understanding of space and space travel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:15:24 2020 No.12496189 >>12495434 >galilean moon settlement Holy shit what.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:16:56 2020 No.12496192 >>12496185 Compared to seafaring in the 1500s, it takes a huge loading force to get the ball rolling on spaceflight. Normally we wouldnt need to worry about public opinion in enterprise

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:18:01 2020 No.12496196 >>12496189 she was just saying they dont have any plans for it (save for pretty pictures)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:18:17 2020 No.12496197 >>12496180 If only there were literally thousands of other places on the internet you could go and not get triggered by minor political hot takes mostly still related to spaceflight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:18:58 2020 No.12496198 >>12496189 >>12496196 They can't have plans - nuclear power is mandatory beyond Mars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:21:27 2020 No.12496205 >>12495910 Orion capsule and BO lander

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:21:46 2020 No.12496208

>>12496192
now, i am speaking hypothetically, as if we were playing minecraft. but if we did kill anyone who dissented towards the idea of space travel we would not have to deal with uninformed opinions, and also we could confiscate their economic wealth and use it to fund R&D for starship and other future projects that aren't 40 years outdated. This is of course a purely hypothetical scenario that I would never advocate for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:22:56 2020 No.12496211 >>12496208 >that I would never advocate for. Puss, it's a good plan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:26:06 2020 No.12496229 >>12496034 >Ben Bova Didn't he write a book about an autistic billionaire funding a Mars mission before SpaceX was even a thing? I read his Titan book and it was meh 5/10 tier sci fi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:26:55 2020 No.12496232 >>12496208 >Confiscating private property. Fuck off communist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:28:00 2020 No.12496236 File: 325 KB, 1948x1096, 1586294937053.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] road now open

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:28:37 2020 No.12496238 >>12496208 I wish the USSR hadnt collapsed. The project could have worked, and the China would be the Soviet's bitch. Now it's the othervway around

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:28:40 2020 No.12496239 >>12496232 Dead people have only their grave as property. Anyway this is /sfg/ let me remind you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:28:45 2020 No.12496240 >>12496232 They're dead, they don't need it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:29:22 2020 No.12496246 File: 1.21 MB, 1948x1096, 1604976233424.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496236

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:29:48 2020 No.12496249 >>12496232 That's not communism. It's not confiscating wealth and redistributing it to everyone. It's simply taking the wealth and using it on something worthwhile instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:30:11 2020 No.12496250 >>12496232 You disparage the Soviet Union? Sneed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:30:28 2020 No.12496251 >>12496246 they've really been hauling ass today. Much faster than usual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:30:55 2020 No.12496253 >>12496239 >Killing anyone who politicaly opposes you AND still confiscating private property. Once again, fuck off communist piece of trash.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:32:09 2020 No.12496257

>>12496034
NASA should do a call for serious asteroid mining concepts. They did something similar with mars habitats, offering money to teams who shared concept art and schematics. I want to see how we could realistically mine an asteroid that is too small to stand on, but too big to just tug with a starship. How could you handle rock processing in zero g?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:32:36 2020 No.12496261 >>12496240 >>12496249 >>12496250 >Defending communist practices. Also good riddance to the Soviet Union, what a festering shithole that was.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:32:42 2020 No.12496262 >>12495881 It’s just a monkey who cares lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:33:34 2020 No.12496263 >>12496261 Lol you mad bro?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:34:16 2020 No.12496268 >>12496261 You don't know what communism is. It's more like tyranny or monarchy, where the ruling class simply uses the economic wealth as they see fit. You aren't redistributing shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:35:55 2020 No.12496274 >>12496268 There’s a big difference between Marx’s fairy tale storybook vague nonsense communism that will never exist and the actual practices of “communists”

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:36:02 2020 No.12496275 >>12496253 Nono I'm not saying we should do that shit. I'm just saying that there's no such thing as the private property of dead people. I don't want to keep derailing this shit so let's leave it here,

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:37:07 2020 No.12496286 >>12496275 >I'm just saying that there's no such thing as the private property of dead people. Not legally true

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:37:16 2020 No.12496287

>The sun and the solar system appear to be moving at 200 kilometers per second, or at an average speed of 448,000 mph (720,000 km/h). Even at this rapid speed, the solar system would take about 230 million years to travel all the way around the Milky Way.

WTF, bros?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:37:18 2020 No.12496288 File: 53 KB, 1180x812, 20201222_123300.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496264 The Chinese century

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:38:19 2020 No.12496291 >>12496274 Yes, but the original post still wasn't advocating communism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:39:46 2020 No.12496298 >>12496274 You dont know what communism is

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:41:12 2020 No.12496304 >>12496261 Fuck commies, fuck NPCs braying about how spaceflight is rasis too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:41:23 2020 No.12496305 >>12496287 Go here: https://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic1502a/zoomable/ Then zoom all the way in. Then remember that the distance between every of these dots would take 10,000 years to cross with current technology.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:41:42 2020 No.12496309 >>12496288 >new she God I wish BO was making women worth a shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:42:02 2020 No.12496310 >>12496298 gulag archipelago

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:42:26 2020 No.12496312
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>Nasa said: "First looks at the data indicate the stage performed well during the propellant loading and replenish process."
>While all this was happening, teams from Nasa and Boeing - the prime contractor for the SLS - carried out a simulated launch countdown. They were due to take the count all the way to the T-minus (time remaining) 33 seconds point.
>But Nasa said the test ended a few minutes short of the planned countdown duration. Teams are evaluating the data to pinpoint the exact cause of the early shutdown.
oh nonononononononononono.... how many more billions will this cost I wonder.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:43:23 2020 No.12496317 >>12496287 Space is big. Not hard, but big. Very, very big. If you want to go anywhere in the universe at all, you'd need to have some sort of FTL capabilities.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:43:43 2020 No.12496318
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>>12496229
>Ben Bova :DDDDDDDDDDDD
yes, his writing is a little flat but its literally about an autistic billionaire bankrupting himself to make commercial mining viable and save the Earth from climate change.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:44:50 2020 No.12496324 >>12496180 looks like you got lost on the way to reddit, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:45:34 2020 No.12496329 File: 1.50 MB, 1950x964, 1606144462859.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Starship SN9 at launch pad B. You guys think they're going to lift her and put her on it today?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:46:38 2020 No.12496332 File: 1.13 MB, 1948x958, 1589540516798.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496329

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:46:46 2020 No.12496333 >>12496329 I think so, there's still daylight left

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:47:14 2020 No.12496335

>>12496317
Once it becomes a habitual thing for a couple thousand people to fuck off on a half-century long journey to the next stellar system, the entire galaxy will be teeming with humans in the geological blink of an eye.

That's assuming no meme physics breaking magic tech is ever invented and it just doesn't get better than nuclear pulse propulsion, which I think is a fair if not certain assumption.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:48:13 2020 No.12496341 >>12496329 SN9 will launch and land by sunset. SN10 will go orbital by New Years Day

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:49:40 2020 No.12496346 >>12496329 Where did SN8's nosecone go?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:49:56 2020 No.12496347 >>12496324 shut up

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:50:22 2020 No.12496350 >>12496317 >If you want to go anywhere in the universe at all, you'd need to have some sort of FTL capabilities. Wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:50:32 2020 No.12496351 >>12496346 up your ass

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:51:24 2020 No.12496356 >>12496298 A classless stateless society without currency in which the means of production are collectively owned and managed. Impossible nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:51:49 2020 No.12496358 >>12496317 Lol no you don't, you just need to be patient

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:51:49 2020 No.12496359 >>12496341 I wish i lived in your paranoid schizophrenic delusions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:52:24 2020 No.12496363 >>12496335 >We know everything about physics and technology already

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:52:26 2020 No.12496364 >>12496351 Was it really worth hitting submit for that?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:53:40 2020 No.12496373 I think Superheavy SN1 will be scrapped and never fly

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:55:04 2020 No.12496375 File: 189 KB, 493x518, output2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496346 >>12496370

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:55:24 2020 No.12496378 >>12496370 Oh there it is, thanks anon I couldn't see it in the other image.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:55:29 2020 No.12496379
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Is anyone else worried about SN9? SN8 was hounded for being a failure despite pretty much completing its mission. I don’t think SN9 cratering or exploding on ascent because it smacked into a wall would be good for optics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:55:59 2020 No.12496381 >>12496363 >folds piece of paper together >pokes pencil through it

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:56:14 2020 No.12496384

>>12496373
why? It's not like it's all that different from the SNs before they started adding nosecones. The initial ones probably won't have many raptors meaning they'd be virtually identical to the early SNs. They'll almost certainly start fucking up when they begin to add more raptors, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:56:22 2020 No.12496385 >>12496363 Physics hasn't changed in the last 30 years.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:57:09 2020 No.12496394 >>12495287 >we havent even bothered trying to build massive pressure domes on earth It may have something to do with the fact we actually live comfortably in our planet's atmosphere and pressure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:58:02 2020 No.12496400 >>12496370 >Step 2: Casually Approach Crane.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:58:13 2020 No.12496402 >>12496385 We discovered anyons recently, but huge glaring holes remain, like quantum mechanics and relativity being incompatible for over 60 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:59:17 2020 No.12496405 >>12496178 Are you saying that abortion being legal = almost all women won't have children? Birth control pills are thing, you know? Abortion is for when they don't work. Better than forcing a woman into undesired parenthood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:01:02 2020 No.12496411 >>12496384 Idk would be weird because they built tons of Starship prototypes before the first 150m hop

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:01:03 2020 No.12496412 >>12496405 What if people just didn't fuck so much

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:01:47 2020 No.12496415 >>12496402 >huge glaring holes remain, like quantum mechanics and relativity being incompatible The problem is mainly tied to gravity and how to mend it. We have few possible solutions, but they cannot be tested yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:01:56 2020 No.12496416 >>12496402 we havent discovered that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:02:19 2020 No.12496418 >>12496412 That's not feasible.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:02:20 2020 No.12496419
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>>12496394
>>12495287
There HAVE been a few pressurized, closed system experiments done - the Americans favored domes, the Soviets favored boxy underground habitats.

Disturbingly enough they all ran into the same problems. Within 6 to 24 months, the oxygen and food producing ecologies go out of whack and the volunteers staffing it begin to go nuts and turn on each other. No casualties because they had the luxury of still being on earth where somebody can just say "Okay that's it open the door."

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:03:14 2020 No.12496423 >>12496381 based, isaac arthur fucking destroyed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:03:25 2020 No.12496426 >>12496379 Video related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvim4rsNHkQ and yet falcon 9 is one of the most reliable rockets to ever fly. optics don't matter at this point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:03:43 2020 No.12496429 What if northrop grumman bought boeing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:05:04 2020 No.12496432 >>12496419 Great that means that the first few generations of Mars colonists will have to be shut in neets who wont go insane from not going outside

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:05:19 2020 No.12496433 >>12496419 lol we should let them kill eachother to weed out the weak. that's how nature cleanses and societies grow

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:06:32 2020 No.12496438 >>12496394 What a bullshit cop out. So you're telling me it's even easier to build big geodesics on earth? then why dont we do it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:06:46 2020 No.12496440 >>12496091 Tenga aerospace

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:07:53 2020 No.12496445 >>12496438 >"why don't we build a dome of atmosphere inside our atmosphere?" Why would you? Anyway if all you want is domes, see any enclosed stadium. >>12496418 4u

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:09:45 2020 No.12496452 >>12496445 they swapped out geodesics in antarctica for boxy habs because geodesics are fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:13:17 2020 No.12496459 >>12496335 >laser sail propulsion allowing close to 90% of c doesn't exist oh no NPP bros we got too cocky

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:14:01 2020 No.12496461 >>12496363 >I don't understand how science works

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:14:27 2020 No.12496462 >>12496459 NPP is shit. It’s the ultimate brute force method of interstellar travel but at least we know it’s physically possible.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:15:19 2020 No.12496468

>>12496419
I admit some people aren't suitable for that, in light of the "terrible isolation issues" reported these days surrounding the chink flu. However, I spent 4 1/2 years NEETing in a basement during which I went outside exactly twice - to a doctor. Give me cached internet connection to 4chan, archive of panda, and some other things, and I'm ready for one way outer solar system mission. Even if you need a guy to check if the Oort cloud's out there, count me in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:15:20 2020 No.12496469 >>12496363 Retard

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:15:49 2020 No.12496471

>>12496419
The idea that closed systems are necessary for colonies makes no sense. It would only apply if you have no reliable source of raw material... at which point you shouldn't be making any kind of colony at all. It's a stupid concept based on broken fundamentals pushed by eco cultists whose neurons are frozen in a closed loop.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:16:21 2020 No.12496474

>>12496462
Laser propulsion is also physically possible. NPP is really good for interplanetary propulsion or for interstellar if you don't have the resources to create the laser arrays required for laser propulsion, but ultimately laser propulsion is better for interstellar travel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:18:54 2020 No.12496479 >>12496474 >laser propulsion for interstellar travel t. magic world where attenuation doesn't exist and yes I know about the meme image

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:19:49 2020 No.12496480 >>12496479 it is possible you just need a shit ton of infrastructure for it way out in the oort cloud

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:19:58 2020 No.12496481

>>12496419
Is it a closed system if you produce the oxygen from hydrolysis?
I mean, why go to Mars if you are going to live in a literal cuckbox not being allowed to touch let alone use anything outside?
There's nitrogen too there so with some chemical plant you can produce plenty of fun things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:20:47 2020 No.12496483 >>12496479 >t. magic world where attenuation doesn't exist ha ha soliton cannon go pew pew

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:21:20 2020 No.12496486 >>12496480 say it with me >STAGED NUCLEAR PULSE PROPULSION INTERSTELLAR ORBITAL REFUELING

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:21:24 2020 No.12496487 >>12496474 True but Laser propulsion requires a mirror that is literally thousands of kilometers across. Your ship’s sail also has to be fuckhuge

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:22:40 2020 No.12496490 >>12496486 no

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:23:03 2020 No.12496493

>>12496481
I think the failures were because it's really hard to scale an ecosystem DOWN enough to be realistic with pre-Starship rockets. When each individual tree is a matter of life and death you've got no margin for error, but in a giant sealed, pressurized lava tube you've got enough room to be hands off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:23:53 2020 No.12496496 >>12496419 Pressurized and sealed are two quite different things according to structural engineering.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:24:24 2020 No.12496498 >>12496312 >meanwhile at the Stennis scrapyards

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:25:15 2020 No.12496502

>>12496487
Thousands of kilometers? Sure if you're solely relying on solar power.
>>12496486
Ultimately laser propulsion is the end game for interstellar propulsion, as it allows you to actually pretty much connect two different solar systems economically. But I don't see it being developed until a respective star system already has a huge population.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:25:20 2020 No.12496503

>>12496481
>>12496471
>>12496493
Mars colonies must have at least some closed loop attributes. Best case scenario you get resupply every two years, and imagine if some bullshit on earth, not even apocalyptic just political or economic, causes one cycle to be canceled/delayed.

That said, it's probably true that Mars has more potential because it's not *truly* barren - there's a tremendous amount of useful carbon, iron, and water around at least. There's probably all kinds of jury-rigged solutions people could come up with using whatever they can reach outside and scoop up to augment all the goodies they've brought from Earth.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:26:44 2020 No.12496508

>>12496502
No it has to be thousands of kilometers across because your ship’s sail is also thousands of kilometers across. The more surface area to hit with the best the faster you can accelerate. It also doubles as a laser cannon in an interplanetary war

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:30:05 2020 No.12496523
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>>12496496
>>12496419
The UAE are working on the world's largest enclosed environment right now. 48 million square feet, all air conditioned to keep the tourists comfy when it's 130 degrees. The closest you can come to being outside while still being inside.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:30:13 2020 No.12496524 >>12496503 I think he's talking about water, and even oxygen and CO2. If any of those things are lacking you can always get some from local resources. The closed loop study isn't useless at all though, the closer we get to that the better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:32:23 2020 No.12496533 >>12496523 Neat but why

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:34:03 2020 No.12496537

>>12496533
I mean I sort of explained it in the post. Dubai gets very, very hot and anticipates being even hotter in the future. Dubai wants to continue to attract millions of upper and upper-middle-class Euros and East Asians to vacation/purchase rapeslaves there.

Hence, an entire city under one big air conditioner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:34:09 2020 No.12496538 >>12496533 Because outside is 130 degrees there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:34:15 2020 No.12496539 >>12496533 BECAUSE IT'S THERE

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:38:20 2020 No.12496556 >>12496537 >not investing in stillsuits ngmi

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:40:29 2020 No.12496567 >>12496508 >The more surface area to hit with the best the faster you can accelerate It's more that photon sail material is flimsy as fuck so if your beam is too energy dense it pokes a hole in the sail and strands your ship in interstellar space.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:41:26 2020 No.12496574
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>SpaceX is now a part of the military industrial complex
How will Tim Dodd and Scott Manley react? For that matter, when Artemis is canned, what do yolk think Scott will say to cope.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:42:08 2020 No.12496576 >>12496574 >For that matter, when Artemis is canned, what do yolk think Scott will say to cope. "Goodbye."

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:44:37 2020 No.12496583 >>12496329 I now believe full Starship will launch before SLS

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:45:27 2020 No.12496586 >>12496583 Superheavy still has yet to do anything and mark my words it will explode on June 8, 2021 during a static fire test

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:47:10 2020 No.12496591 >>12496586 I hope it waits until it has the JWST on board to explode

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:53:43 2020 No.12496619 >>12496433 People who say this are always the weakest people

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:53:46 2020 No.12496621 >>12496601 RISE

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:54:56 2020 No.12496629

>>12496567
I've watched a couple hour long lectures about the starshot design study and it is mindbogglingly difficult the number of problems that are imvolved. part of me wonders if it might be easier to stock up on antimatter and make the probe bigger, but i'm told lasers are the way to go

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:54:58 2020 No.12496630 >>12495901 Journos

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:55:48 2020 No.12496637 >>12496481 Why are conservatives so obsessed with cuckholdry?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:55:53 2020 No.12496638 >>12496574 literally always been that way lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:57:39 2020 No.12496646 >>12496586 When that happens, SpaceX stans will be seething! Superheavy SN2 delayed to Q2 2022, screencap this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:59:13 2020 No.12496653 File: 575 KB, 990x825, 25B69AAA-FF21-4203-8339-199F84472C86.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496637 Obsessed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:00:13 2020 No.12496657 >SN9 being moved to the pad >/sfg/ inundated by garbage-tier shitposting Why are some anons like this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:01:03 2020 No.12496661 >>12496574 >now Why do you think it's just happening now? They were getting defense-related contracts years ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:01:10 2020 No.12496662 File: 673 KB, 796x954, 1580057219106.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] cherry-pickers are down. Lift soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:03:04 2020 No.12496671 >>12496601 This weird dream again, déjà vu!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:03:34 2020 No.12496676 File: 1.12 MB, 1024x582, 1596647089161.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The new flap looks really smooth

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:05:10 2020 No.12496683 >>12496662 >Lift soon cryo, pressure, static fire Could we have new years fireworks?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:05:58 2020 No.12496686 >>12496657 Are you gonna cry?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:07:15 2020 No.12496693 >>12496683 They're going to do them all in that order. Tonight, today!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:07:55 2020 No.12496698 >>12496687 Kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:08:04 2020 No.12496699 >>12496683 cryo test will be very interesting. If the tip really didn't damage anything else then SN9 should be flying very quickly. I don't think this year, though. If only because of FAA red tape.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:08:47 2020 No.12496703 >>12496601 Kraut asking the real questions here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:09:01 2020 No.12496704 >>12496012 blessed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:09:49 2020 No.12496712 >>12496687 Nice wallpaper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:10:14 2020 No.12496713 >>12496676 Yay, I was worried they'd just stick with tin foil.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:10:18 2020 No.12496714 >>12496687 >SpaceX destroys local wildlife in pursuit of narcisist's dream of going to Mars to escape the problems of Earth - CNN

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:17:54 2020 No.12496744 >>12496317 biological immortality will unlock the stars for us. Who cares if you have to sit on a rocket for 1000 years if you live for millions

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:20:02 2020 No.12496750 >>12496713 it's still tin foil, just different angle/lighting

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:21:57 2020 No.12496759
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new shit about spacex activities in bocha chika

https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholder_engagement/spacex_starship/starship_super_heavy/?fbclid=IwAR3izIWIGeRTNZSG3JaSupJ2y0P3S9vVzi5AqrudxYlw-HjMJksfoRHdfK0

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:22:21 2020 No.12496760
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Think this is the bottom half of SN10 being moved out of the midbay. Guess they're going to stack it sooner than later.

>>12496662
>Lift soon.
I've heard some speculate that the lift is going to be this evening. Lower winds at dusk.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:23:41 2020 No.12496767

>>12496583
Remember though that even if Starship seems to be getting ahead by making progress with tests, SLS won't be tested because it's so expensive. Starship could be 95% of the way to fully operational and then suddenly SLS could be fully operational.

>>12496646
How does that make sense?
The only reason SN2 would be delayed a long time if the basic design was so flawed that minor tweaks wouldn't be adequate to make it safe, which wouldn't make sense considering that it'd be very similar to Starship which should be able to successfully land with only one minor tweak.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:24:09 2020 No.12496769 >>12496759 We will put a stop to this, make sure to write to your representative. Environment trumps space any day, and our voices must be heard. I will not let Musk turn a nature reserve into his personal narcissist playground

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:24:42 2020 No.12496770 >>12496687 >Two weeks... >I am forgotten...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:26:38 2020 No.12496777 >>12496769 fuck off negro

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:27:53 2020 No.12496783 >>12496759 Another new launch/landing pad, more ground facilities, more solar panels, and interesting new desalination plant. I suppose they want to draw water from ocean and desalinate for starship/drinking/edibility use.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:28:18 2020 No.12496785 >>12496760 They may as well get SN10 in the high bay now that it's open, but I'm surprised they're moving it before SN9's even on the pad. After what happened to SN9, I want to see SN10 ready sooner rather than later in case SN9 runs into problems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:29:58 2020 No.12496796 >>12496785 yup. No reason why they couldn't have two starships on each pad. I wonder what's the hold-up with the high bay gantry cane. Maybe they don't want to hold up the production line right now, which is what installing it would do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:35:11 2020 No.12496817 >>12496523 disgusting behavior, this arrogance towards nature will be their downfall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:35:40 2020 No.12496820 >>12496796 All the projectiles kicked up during SN8's static fire may be a problem for two-pad operations.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:36:26 2020 No.12496824 Something I haven't heard any mention of is what's gonna be done about Starship fucking up its engines by scattering debris towards itself, because that'll definitely be important beyond Earth where there won't be any launchpads for a long while.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:36:43 2020 No.12496826 >>12496769 fuck off

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:37:57 2020 No.12496829 Remember after the SN8 crash how that tent seemed to catch fire? Did we ever learn any more about that, like what it was?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:38:54 2020 No.12496833 >>12496829 Tent was repaired right after, afaik. Whatever damages that took place seems minor enough that SpaceX is right back up to testing SN9.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:39:48 2020 No.12496842 >>12496824 apparently important bits in the skirt will be armored. And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think mars rocks will be as damaging as martyte blades

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:42:56 2020 No.12496852 >>12496842 >And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think mars rocks will be as damaging as martyte blades Moon rocks might be. Lunar regolith is allegedly very sharp. Mars's dust storms smoothed out the surface stuff a long time ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:43:09 2020 No.12496853 So SN9's little maneuver in the high bay cost it eight days. Not too bad as long as there isn't any lingering damage to the tanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:46:04 2020 No.12496865 >>12496824 There won't be any naked hydraulic lines that can be impacted or loose wiring. By its nature the production models should be tidier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:47:06 2020 No.12496868 >>12496853 >8 days wasted At this rate they'll get nowhere how can people take them seriously with those sorts of massive delays?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:49:26 2020 No.12496878
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How common is Lithium-6? Can you breed it with a uranium reactor? If it's reasonably common in the outer system we've got a potential torch drive.

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist2.php#lswr
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140724165847-39571567-nuclear-salt-water-rockets-revisited/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:52:14 2020 No.12496893 >>12496601 Grandpa Starhoopper finally have some companion again

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:53:39 2020 No.12496897 >>12496759 they honestly need to find someplace else not only is BC a nature reserve it's also too close to mexico

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:54:59 2020 No.12496905 File: 516 KB, 892x3362, tgx09 The Season for Giving.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12489589 >>12489584 9/10

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:56:01 2020 No.12496908 File: 186 KB, 892x1767, tgx10 The Grandest Tour.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496905

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:56:24 2020 No.12496909 File: 9 KB, 244x207, 60F68FEC-EC26-40DD-A5D9-AFF528BA9C96.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496868 SLS would have been delayed 18 months if something similar happened to it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:56:27 2020 No.12496910 File: 133 KB, 435x359, 1580886995596.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] will it work?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:58:04 2020 No.12496919 >>12496910 QUANTUM RANDING ROR

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:58:28 2020 No.12496920 File: 1.14 MB, 1609x932, 1594724386637.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496868 >8 days it's... over.... >>12496909 >only 18 months

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:59:13 2020 No.12496924 >>12496777 >>12496826 >taking the bait Shouldn't you kids be studying? Or are you parents passed out from drinking after dealing with you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:59:48 2020 No.12496929 >>12496853 bretty gud considering that that stunt would have totaled any other rocket. Steel is pretty great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:00:31 2020 No.12496932 File: 21 KB, 229x343, 1851A76E-28D9-4537-8AAA-00EF43480BDD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496920 >that picture

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:02:19 2020 No.12496937 >>12495910 a model SLS

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:04:03 2020 No.12496947 >>12496920 >What's the p- >date

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:05:16 2020 No.12496952 File: 70 KB, 167x168, 2020 Moon Olympics.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496920 >september 5, 2016

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:05:26 2020 No.12496953 File: 2.11 MB, 5568x3712, 1592394399483.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] was building this gigantic fucking thing for a WDR and a static fire really necessary?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:06:27 2020 No.12496956 >>12496032 I'm aware, that's why I'm suggesting there be stringers or something in the starship tanks to keep the structure more than sturdy enough for side storage.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:06:36 2020 No.12496957

>>12495918
This would be my guess. The first few cargo flights will probably be exclusively Starlink to get more satellites in orbit sooner and not risk customer payloads during testing. Maybe they could include a marketing stunt payload alongside Starlinks on the first launch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:06:42 2020 No.12496958 >>12496953 dude jobs lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:06:56 2020 No.12496961 >>12496953 Nothing in space is cheap. Even moreso on the ground.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:08:32 2020 No.12496967 >>12496961 >ground is difficult

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:08:44 2020 No.12496969 >>12496967 >rocks are hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:10:50 2020 No.12496977 File: 93 KB, 960x960, E3F09BB3-148B-4F67-8E84-A16FCDD34556.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496953 I’m telling you, that thing is going to detonate during its WDR

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:13:04 2020 No.12496981

>>12496878
Lithium 6 is 7.59% of natural Lithium (the remainder being Lithium 7).
It can be enriched via the COLEX process, which takes advantage of Lithium 6 having a greater affinity for mercury than Lithium 7.
Due to low demand of Lithium 6, and the COLEX process using mercury, the process has been banned in the US however it continues in China.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:14:01 2020 No.12496983 File: 82 KB, 888x499, china sparrow sith.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496981 >the process has been banned in the US however it continues in China. Gee I wonder who could be behind this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:14:32 2020 No.12496987 >>12496910 Better question- if it works, does it matter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:15:20 2020 No.12496988 >>12496920 Jesus

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:16:41 2020 No.12496999 >>12496977 And Artemis will have to use Falcon Heavy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:17:39 2020 No.12497002 File: 250 KB, 1540x1540, 1499579423143.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496953 >>12496920 Every day I'm more and more tempted to AMOS-6 this abomination when it actually finally does a WDR

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:19:05 2020 No.12497007 >>12496999 >Implying it wont be Long March

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:20:58 2020 No.12497014

>>12496981
Also, just an opinion, the process should really be unbanned in the US.
The process was banned because of leakages of mercury into the environment, but environmental mercury affects everyone equally if it winds up in the ocean, so it doesn't really matter where you're doing the process; only how careful you are about minimising leakages.

Banning the process in the US has simply lead to people buying Lithium 6 from China, a country where companies don't give a shit about the environment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:21:37 2020 No.12497018 >>12496981 Lithium-7 can also fission, but it doesn't do it as easily. The Castle Bravo incident happened because they underestimated the odds significantly, however.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:21:58 2020 No.12497020 File: 159 KB, 500x689, 15652F6E-1579-409C-8D6D-B7C26BCD5963.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496953 >Spending $50 Billion on a rocket that will never fly

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:24:39 2020 No.12497031 >>12496878 god i want to fuck her slut brains out

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:26:09 2020 No.12497036 >>12496953 post the pic of SLS ripped pants heehee

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:26:19 2020 No.12497037 >>12496687 Gotta love crows.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:26:51 2020 No.12497039 File: 1.82 MB, 480x270, bf8e52f731673394bde8ebc870ddd69c.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SN9 rolling to the launchpad

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:27:48 2020 No.12497045 File: 164 KB, 500x717, E747CC70-578F-41C8-AFE0-1BE8123FF405.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497039 >SN8 was the first Starship to be KIA

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:27:54 2020 No.12497046 File: 153 KB, 1353x915, dda9cc19f093d12db4498514d8e7eac7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want 9 to lean on my face

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:28:04 2020 No.12497047 >>12496956 there's a spacex video of them flying a drone down the barrel of one, def stringers inside or some sort of structure but only for vertical position. no horizontal stringers

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:36:25 2020 No.12497071 >>12497046 is the baka gonna survive?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:37:45 2020 No.12497077 File: 116 KB, 1196x567, 1594470800445.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496956 >>12496032

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:40:19 2020 No.12497091 >>12497077 Yeah the booster has em, not Starship itself

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:40:22 2020 No.12497092 File: 18 KB, 600x295, sls-seventh-time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496920 >>12496953 I don't get this disposable WDR meme, lads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:42:14 2020 No.12497097 >>12496878 true

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:45:01 2020 No.12497104 File: 1.10 MB, 1280x720, space_starship_facesitting.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497046 Soon brother

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:46:23 2020 No.12497111 >>12496687 >nature is healing

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:47:54 2020 No.12497124 What do you reckon the next iconic spacecraft after Starship will be?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:51:38 2020 No.12497136 >>12497124 Something nuclear. Either an SSTO air breathing spaceplane or the first manned spacecraft to go beyond Mars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:52:59 2020 No.12497140 >>12497124 haha if you asked this question in 1968 >what do you guys think the next iconic spacecraft after Saturn V will be? :DDD imagine living with half a century of disappointment haha oh geeze

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:55:40 2020 No.12497153 >>12497104 has SpaceX's broadcast ever won any awards? This video is incredible. It should get an emmy.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:00:41 2020 No.12497163 >>12496953 the absolute fucking STATE of that monstrosity

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:01:51 2020 No.12497168 >>12497140 >muh saturn v >shuttle bad capsulets

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:02:06 2020 No.12497171 >>12496172 the future is women and other gender minorities bigot

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:02:40 2020 No.12497172

>>12497124
I reckon it'll be an ionic/nuclear tug, a spacecraft with extremely high ISP engines (almost 1000 at least, possibly as high as multiple thousands) that permanently stays in space, can attach to other spacecraft, and is refuelled by whatever it's tugging.
These tugs could also be outfitted with other stuff that has no reason to leave orbit, and would be a pain for many companies to develop independently. For example, anything intended to improve quality of life for humans in transit. These tugs could even be centrifugal habitats, and the only part of the spacecraft occupied by humans during transit, with the spacecraft they're attached to only serving to move stuff in and out of orbit.

With lots of competitors in the space industry, being able to provide a service that makes everyone's operations a lot cheaper could make you enormously successful.
Personally, I don't think this is something SpaceX would do, in fact SpaceX is probably what will cause another company to try this approach. If no one can beat SpaceX as a launch provider, they could still make a killing by assisting underdog launch providers, and the resulting specialisation of individual companies could lead to a more efficient operation than SpaceX can achieve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:03:14 2020 No.12497176 >>12497168 The shuttle was supposed to be one part of a full Space Transportation System including nuclear inter-orbital craft. It was a colossally overpriced satellite repair pickup truck and space station work vehicle for 30 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:03:49 2020 No.12497180 >>12497168 >kills more crew than every other rocket in history combined

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:04:37 2020 No.12497182 File: 2.00 MB, 1948x1096, 1599242080701.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497162 OH SHIT SHE'S UP

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:05:09 2020 No.12497185

>>12497172
>the resulting specialisation of individual companies could lead to a more efficient operation than SpaceX can achieve.
Absolutely. If you have an orbital tug that can ISRU from NEAs or lunar ice, or even a water depot in LEO, you just need one Starship launch to put your payload on an intercept orbit and move on. Starship's full orbital refueling cycle only makes sense for Mars colony runs or HLS or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:08:05 2020 No.12497195 File: 1.15 MB, 970x1192, 1580469521264.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497182 look at the tiny ants under her

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:08:21 2020 No.12497197 >>12497176 it was a design-by-committee jobs program and the beginning of the end for NASA

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:09:08 2020 No.12497198 File: 457 KB, 1948x1096, 1586776722679.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497195

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:10:16 2020 No.12497201 >>12497195 >>12497198 Balls of adamantium. I wouldn't have the confidence to walk right under tons of stainless steel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:10:23 2020 No.12497202 File: 444 KB, 1948x1096, 1588256151908.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497198 hope that crane is steady

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:13:47 2020 No.12497217 >>12497198 hope they're getting paid extra to do this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:14:52 2020 No.12497222 File: 30 KB, 128x128, 1607149743631.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496920 >2016

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:15:43 2020 No.12497228 File: 38 KB, 657x527, 1607960416066.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12496953 Wait why can't they just do a full static fire on Pad 39-B? The thing can't even take off without SRBs at sea level

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:17:02 2020 No.12497235 >>12497228 because the crawler is currently covered in hundreds of tons of concrete

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:17:48 2020 No.12497238
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I have a new suggestion to make for the next KSP update; Surface features now appear as physical things in your inventory, making them an interesting addition and a logistics problem

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:20:09 2020 No.12497245 >>12497238 Isn't that already the case? I thought you could pick up a unique rock on each surface and keep in your inventory?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:20:51 2020 No.12497249 >>12497245 It doesn't appear as an item, but like any other experiment data

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:20:55 2020 No.12497251 >>12496920 >2016 LMAO

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:22:48 2020 No.12497258

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTmsNu0MnLw
>Since these two mature modules have already been tested, piecing them together increased the reliability of the rocket and decreased our research and development workload. This has significantly reduced our time and cost
WTF??!! I thought it worked the other way around !!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:24:41 2020 No.12497267 >>12497249 Well damn, then yeah I support your idea. Why wouldn't it be like that already? It's obvious. Bonus if you can use a robot arm to 'pick up' and move it around an automated lander, then you could do unmanned sample returns.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:26:40 2020 No.12497276 So SN9 hoping this year is unlikely right?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:26:59 2020 No.12497279

>>12496920
What are you complaining about? SLS' core mission was always to fly people to the mo- I mean fly deep space science payloa- I meant low earth orbi- I mean pass static fir- I mean pass wet dress rehersal. Once. At some point. We're hoping for 2026 here.
30 billion dollars well spent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:28:59 2020 No.12497284 >>12497276 Technicaly, they could do it but it is going to take a few weeks at best due to the FAA being slow in granting clearances.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:30:04 2020 No.12497289 >>12497279 SLS core mission was always to drive concrete around

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:31:12 2020 No.12497298 >>12497284 Fucking FAA, old space lackeys. Fuck those guys.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:32:33 2020 No.12497308 >>12497195 >This scene with SN8 in the back This whole project is so effortlessly a source of the finest kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:32:57 2020 No.12497311 >>12496953 Oh god, they even integrated the fucking cranes. For one SLS per year absolute max. Wait, how often do you need to maintain these things?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:34:21 2020 No.12497320

>>12497180
Both shuttles carried seven people. But that was its benefit. It was a spaceplane. Just because the management fucked up, doesn't mean shuttle was bad at what it was doing. On the contrary, without shuttle we wouln't have done so much. Don't you want also to get rid of airplanes, because they are falling all the time, killing thousands?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:34:38 2020 No.12497321 >>12495124 that's how you get the andromeda strain

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:35:53 2020 No.12497327

>>12497320
>Don't you want also to get rid of airplanes, because they are falling all the time, killing thousands?
No because aviation accidents are fairly rare. I do want to ban all automobiles though, fuck you fatty go for a walk.
>but it's really far!
Good

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:36:27 2020 No.12497331 >>12496953 No, but that's the best thing to come out of SLS. If my taxpayer dollars are going to be wasted I at least want them to be wasted on something cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:38:27 2020 No.12497334 File: 1.89 MB, 800x1486, sls_bozo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497320 >Shuttle is good because NASA didn't build anything better because Shuttle cost so much HONK HONK

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:40:05 2020 No.12497341 >>12497334 >better than Shuttle Amuse me, do go on.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:41:23 2020 No.12497344

>>12497298

Easy there man, considering what Starship is, the FAA being on the carefull side of affairs isnt that strange or proof of malice at all. The thing is so cutting edge with all these brand new type of maneuvers that it can be hard for the layman to wrap their heads around it.

I guess after a few successfull tests, the FAA would be likely to relax their clearances policy towards SpaceX/Starship.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:43:59 2020 No.12497354
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>>12497341
Just make a dedicated production line for Saturn Vs.
That would've been better than the Shuttle.
They could just transition away from Saturn V and into Sea Dragon whenever they felt like it. In fact, Sea Dragon could've just completely taken the place of the Shuttle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:45:08 2020 No.12497357 >>12497341 DOLPHIN SEX >>12497327 This sounds like a retarded Yurp thing to say >why do Americans needs cars hurr hurr just walk hurr hurr >closest convenience store is farther away than the distance from France to Portugal

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:46:52 2020 No.12497363 I figured SN9 was fucked and they would scrap it, but here we are a week later and it's on the stand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:48:18 2020 No.12497370 File: 8 KB, 275x183, 672734637.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497354 >Just make a dedicated production line for Saturn Vs immediately cancelled

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:49:08 2020 No.12497374 >>12497357 just move closer to the shop like why do those Africans have to walk 10 miles for water, they live in twig huts they could just move closer it would be easier for them

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:51:05 2020 No.12497383 >>12496920 I push my fingers into my weeeeelds. It's the only thing, that slowly stops the leaaaaaaks! And they're made of all the jobs I have to saaaaaaaave! Jesus it never ends it pushes its way outside. If the leaks go on, I'm not gonna make it!

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:51:20 2020 No.12497385

>>12497354
Saturn V for all it's glory is still a fully disposable rocket, and a disposable rocket will never be the basis of a sustainable space program.

>>12497374
Niggers live near the shop. Why would you live in a city when you could just own a car?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:51:25 2020 No.12497386 >>12497357 Fuck Yurp and fuck cars. If you can't make it across your state on foot then fuck you too fatty. This has nothing to do with the environment or anything I just want to spite people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:52:47 2020 No.12497391 >>12497354 Shuttle launched 135 times. You are out of your mind if you think that anyone would approve 135 launches of Saturn V, when they didn't wanted to do with 20. Also thanks for getting stuck in the sixties.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:52:56 2020 No.12497393 >>12497363 Steel is a magical substance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:54:59 2020 No.12497398 >>12496312 Do they, like, push the red button and run away for machines to work their arcane magic and print "ok" at the end? They sound like they don't have the slightest idea what was going on during the test and why the countdown stopped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:56:07 2020 No.12497401 >>12497258 Who needs integration testing anyway? Just look at success stories like Ariane 5 and Starliner!

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:57:43 2020 No.12497405

>>12497398
>"After a certain point, the tests began to fail themselves. We haven't had our hands on SLS in two years and the failures keep occurring, frankly none of us are sure why but several of the engineers have begun worshipping the rocket as some sort of blundering deity"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:59:11 2020 No.12497411 >>12497391 God forbid we would've gotten stuck in the only period where we could and did go to the moon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:59:36 2020 No.12497412 >>12497393 Probably exhibit A for Elon actually being the Chief Engineer at SpaceX. No one else would have even considered the switch to stainless steel let alone actually go through with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:00:44 2020 No.12497417 >>12497391 Shuttle wasn't any cheaper in the end, was it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:01:33 2020 No.12497419 >>12497412 We don't know if he came up with the steel idea. Of course he did pull the trigger on it and went all-in immediately once they realized they could just get any redneck welder to build their rockets for them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:04:35 2020 No.12497426 >>12497391 saturn had 5x the payload capacity. So 135 launches could be reduced to as low as 27 launches. Or less than 1 launch a year during the shuttle's lifetime

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:05:48 2020 No.12497429 >>12497298 >FAA takes too long >They roll out SN10 to pad 2 in the meantime >FAA finally gives approval >They launch both back to back during a single window

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:07:04 2020 No.12497433
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>>12497391
>>12497385
>>12497417
The amount of time and money spent on the Shuttle program, if you had just taken the exact same funding and calendar years, could have launched 200 Saturn V missions. The Saturn V could have become the American Soyuz.

There would be a base on the moon right now. There would be a base on Mars. There'd have been a year-long manned journey to Venus and another to Ceres. There would be a fucking goliath of a space station, an orbital city made out of Skylab sized modules.

Right now. For the same sum of money that was actually squandered on the fucking shuttle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:07:16 2020 No.12497435 >>12497426 Shit, with a 7x5 = 35 man capsule for LEO then a lifting body spaceplane upper stage actually starts making sense. >THE SATURN COULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER SHUTTLE THAN THE ONE WE GOT

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:08:55 2020 No.12497441 >>12497433 In your dreams maybe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:09:36 2020 No.12497442 >One week until next rocket launch

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:10:43 2020 No.12497448 >>12497441 No, no, you're right, fucking incinerating $209 billion and puttering around with no progress for three decades was a much, much better course to take.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:14:58 2020 No.12497461 Vigoride soon Vigoride when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:15:13 2020 No.12497462 >>12497433 >The Saturn V could have become the American Soyuz. No thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:16:07 2020 No.12497464 >>12497433 >>12497448 I think you guys should be friends.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:16:17 2020 No.12497465 >>12497442 Yep, the last one this year and it is a tropical Soyuz. A rare beast, much less common than the taiga or the steppe Soyuz'es.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:17:55 2020 No.12497471 >>12497465 Does it display regional markings?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:18:21 2020 No.12497474 >>12497429 >Elon uses the remaining time to squash them into lifting bodies and performs a sex dolphin maneuver to put SN10 in orbit

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:20:57 2020 No.12497483
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>>12497426
Don't think of it as "The Saturn V could have done in 27 launches what the Shuttle did in 135" but instead "The Saturn V could have done five times what the Shuttle did for the exact same price."
>>12497433
>The Saturn V could have become the American Soyuz.
>22x LEO capability per rocket
>2.5x total mass sent to LEO
This >>12497462 guy is right, that's an insult to what the Saturn V would've been even at it's worst.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:21:11 2020 No.12497485 >>12497433 Show me on the doll, where the shuttle touched you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:21:18 2020 No.12497486 >>12497471 Unlike the hardier Siberian or Khazak Soyuz, the Tropical Soyuz scrubs for thunderstorms and wind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:21:33 2020 No.12497487 >>12497433 >"I don't get this reusable crew meme"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:22:00 2020 No.12497489 >>12497485 Not on the doll, but in the wallet, the heart, and the soul.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:22:21 2020 No.12497492 >>12497485 Right in the orbital propellant depot.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:23:09 2020 No.12497499
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>>12497471

The Soyuz'es in south America are an invasive species but there are signs that they have adopted regional markings, specificaly logo's to better blend in the enviroment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:23:18 2020 No.12497500 >>12497485 >cost $1.5 billion per launch >"reusability" involved a year of rebuilding it from scratch after every mission >could only carry 22 tons >never went beyond LEO >40% of them exploded and killed everybody

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:29:14 2020 No.12497519 >>12496523 No way thats gonna happen after the oil prices collapsed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:30:38 2020 No.12497523 >>12497519 Dubai's invested pretty heavily into renewables so it could still happen, just on a longer timeline

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:31:08 2020 No.12497525 >>12497499 I wonder what Korolev would have thought about Soyuz being launched by the French in the year 2020

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:35:04 2020 No.12497532 >>12497525 I think he would have been proud as well as a bit sad that Russia was still using R-7 derivatives to launch shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:36:41 2020 No.12497538 >>12496523 >48 million square feet >god knows how many cubic feet >of greenhouse in the fucking desert >all air conditioned Might need to build another power plant just for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:37:16 2020 No.12497541 >>12497500 Apollo killed its crew during a goddamn test, and another crew almost died during failed moon mission. Apollo only being able to carry crew of three won't impress me there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:38:37 2020 No.12497545 >>12497541 The capsule killed its crew during a test. Because they were so fucking stupid as to use pure oxygen as the atmosphere in those days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:41:37 2020 No.12497553 >>12497545 >Because they were so fucking stupid just like the circumstances that led to the loss of Challenger and Columbia, that could have been prevented if people were doing their work properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:43:46 2020 No.12497558 File: 3.29 MB, 4377x2961, s64-25295.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497545 I bet you don't even use pyrotechnic ejection seats in a pressurised pure oxygen environment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:44:54 2020 No.12497561 >>12496908 Many thanks, anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:45:32 2020 No.12497565 >>12497553 The shuttle was built on "fucking stupid" and nothing but. It was kept going on "fucking stupid" until it was retired. But they fixed the Apollo capsule.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:48:36 2020 No.12497575 >>12497558 >No launch escape tower >Just eject bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:50:00 2020 No.12497580 >>12497575 It was somehow more dangerous than the Voskhod, which didn't have a launch escape system at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:50:16 2020 No.12497582 File: 352 KB, 1213x2001, Apollo_13_Service_Module_-_AS13-59-8500_(cropped).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497565 >But they fixed the Apollo capsule

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:50:54 2020 No.12497584 >>12497582 Hey, they fixed that too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:52:00 2020 No.12497586 What are the best resources for learning about why Shuttle was such a expensive clusterfuck?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:56:13 2020 No.12497604 >>12497582 I was thinking about the ones that don't blow up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:57:43 2020 No.12497607 >>12496908 Nice ending, I actually enjoyed that a lot. Wonder what happened to the original author, I'd love a sequel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:59:10 2020 No.12497610 File: 100 KB, 1280x720, british space shuttle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You cunts talking shit about shuttle?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:00:47 2020 No.12497615 File: 45 KB, 330x500, 1601935109827.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497586

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:01:31 2020 No.12497620 >>12497615 Ordered, thanks m8

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:04:55 2020 No.12497628 File: 1.17 MB, 2070x3648, Saturn-Shuttle_model_at_Udvar-Hazy_Center.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What if we spilt the difference and used the saturn-shuttle?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:06:35 2020 No.12497633 >>12497538 Just put more solar panels on the sand dunes.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:06:36 2020 No.12497634

>>12497525
Why are the frogs launchin on ruskie rockets? It is ridiculous to transport payloads to fucking Vladivostok when your own country has a more equatorial spaceport in Guyana with better weather, and you also have your own Arianne rockets and an entire industry to keep alive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:06:37 2020 No.12497635 >>12497582 Man that scene from the Challenger dramatization where the crew works with ground control to fix the exploding SRB with some hoses and duct tape really had me on the edge of my seat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:06:38 2020 No.12497636 >>12497419 they won't be able to use any old welder for their production vehicles otherwise they will turn into rust buckets in short order.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:06:50 2020 No.12497638 >>12497628 Best shuttles are the smaller crew transport variants like X37 or DreamChaser

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:07:13 2020 No.12497641 >>12497523 What does that have to do with oil price? No one can make an entire economy based off renewable energy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:08:07 2020 No.12497643 >>12497638 If you're launching on a Saturn V you should be able to fit fifty men in there per crew rotation to populate your Skylab-sized space city. Full sized crew only.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:09:09 2020 No.12497648 >>12497635 Just get out and tape up the leak, I don't know why nobody tried. Lazy dead astronauts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:11:34 2020 No.12497652 >>12497643 Okay gramps

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:12:11 2020 No.12497654 >>12497634 No, it's worse. They bring the Soyuz rockets to Guyana and launch them there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:12:27 2020 No.12497656 >>12497628 I doubt this thing flies. Rockets don't like big unbalanced loads on one side, and even less that high in the stack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:12:44 2020 No.12497658 >>12497643 You will love SLS then

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:13:50 2020 No.12497661 >>12497658 What if we put a Shuttle on the side of the SLS stack? A fairly large one, like Buran.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:14:56 2020 No.12497663

>>12497652
It's a waste of a booster to send a small spacecraft to LEO on a Saturn. Use cheaper ones like a Titan III/IV (or a Falcon 9 lol) for something Dreamchaser sized. The Titan also has the advantage of being able to stand ready almost indefinitely as a hypergolic/solid so you can use them for short notice rescue missions.

>>12497658
>take biggest wet workshop halfway to GTO
>nah let it deorbit
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:16:17 2020 No.12497668 >>12497654 Why not Ariane? They have launched 3 Ariane 5s this year alone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:17:48 2020 No.12497674 >>12497661 It would tip over and explode

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:17:57 2020 No.12497676

>>12497658
Orion is an unimpressive capsulelet too

The only neat spacecraft ever made were Skylab (which can count as a spaceship just as much as a station because it's in one piece) and Starship. Plus I guess Gagarin and Armstrong's tin cans just for the historical frontiers they crossed but we should have proper vehicles now

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:19:14 2020 No.12497677 >>12495414 Yeet train

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:20:44 2020 No.12497678

>>12497668
You can't make too many Arianes or the factory workers will get le tired. You also can't reuse rockets, because then the factory workers would be le bored.

If you want a real answer, watch this video. Slightly different topic, but still about the French mindset.
https://youtu.be/9ygXLnRAm-A

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:22:23 2020 No.12497683

>>12497668
Ok I googled this:
>"Soyuz's primary role is to consolidate Arianespace commercial position in the launching market and to bring activity and founding to a stagnating Russian space sector. With this decision Arianespace will have a full range of commercially available launchers with Soyuz completing the two European rockets Vega and Ariane V. But since Vega and Ariane must have the priority, there is a risk to see an insufficient launch rate for Soyuz, which would not satisfy the Russian partners."
So basically, Ariane 5 is too big and Vega is too small.
This also explains why the Vega rockets keep failing...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:23:34 2020 No.12497686 File: 165 KB, 482x640, bqkES5o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What if we put a shuttle on a shuttle on a shuttle?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:27:34 2020 No.12497699 >>12497686 >Dolphin DP

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:27:48 2020 No.12497701 >>12497678 Based Drachposter

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:28:40 2020 No.12497708 >>12497686 god I wish that was me in the middle

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:31:41 2020 No.12497714 >>12497683 Ariane V was sized for a spaceplane (Hermes) that ESA never built so now it does double-payloads to GTO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:32:06 2020 No.12497716 File: 271 KB, 1320x742, shelby.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF7t3pPDuAw

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:33:05 2020 No.12497723 >>12497686 God I wish I could have two rocket cocks inside my rocket holes just having their way with me

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:38:20 2020 No.12497738 >>12497716 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQXHdItgb7I

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:38:50 2020 No.12497739 >>12497686 degenerate

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:40:26 2020 No.12497745 File: 394 KB, 2344x2474, sneight_moments_before_biting_the_dust.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497723 this but with futa Starships

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:43:19 2020 No.12497751 >>12497745 >Elon browses /sci/ >Tweets this pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:51:34 2020 No.12497775 >>12497745 Original artist should do a proper flustered one with single green plume in memory of SNeight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:00:52 2020 No.12497786 >>12497745 >>12497723 It's been right in front of us the whole time >>12496040

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:04:10 2020 No.12497794 >>12497792 Fucking stunning

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:05:06 2020 No.12497796 File: 164 KB, 679x555, wetdream.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:05:15 2020 No.12497797 File: 544 KB, 1536x2048, sn9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497792

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:05:38 2020 No.12497799 >>12497792 what a shot

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:06:08 2020 No.12497800 >>12497792 oh yeah forgot to post this. cant believe she's already on the pad

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:06:21 2020 No.12497801 File: 48 KB, 224x257, hope_for_man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497792 >SN9 is dead >They won't get it out on the pad Pretty great turn around

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:10:26 2020 No.12497810

>>12497796
bad news is no, neoliberalism will probably be the predominant power in the sol system. good news is that the solar system is large enough for literally millions of NS space colonies (or any other ideology you could imagine really) in the kuiper belt and oort cloud that would pretty much never have to interact with the inner solar system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:10:26 2020 No.12497811 >>12497792 Kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:14:13 2020 No.12497819 >>12497792 What's funny is that these are always going to look like janky ass pieces of shit, making all those welds and spots go away is an impossible excercise. The shitty tin can btfoing gorillion dollar aerospace companies is hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:14:45 2020 No.12497821 >>12497716 Space is hard, and so is my dick. >>12497723 What about fuel d*os?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:14:50 2020 No.12497822
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I kinda like the fact that normal-ass construction people are helping build the future of spaceflight instead of a bunch of 6-figure oldspace engineers in their enclosed cuckfactory

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:16:28 2020 No.12497827 File: 771 KB, 879x494, 1591536945718.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497822 souless

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:17:37 2020 No.12497830 File: 228 KB, 355x536, PerformTheTestSN9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497792

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:18:07 2020 No.12497831 File: 1.71 MB, 937x936, 1592196462487.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497819 it's glorious

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:19:53 2020 No.12497837 >>12497810 >bad news is no, neoliberalism will probably be the predominant power in the sol system This is literally The Expanse

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:25:50 2020 No.12497852 >>12497822 Man, those big cars. And the roads. Murica really is a country for cars. I hate Europe's tiny streets with cramped cars 10 cm from one another.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:27:22 2020 No.12497854 >>12497822 SPACE TRUCKERS

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:27:40 2020 No.12497855

>>12497819
>these are always going to look like janky ass pieces of shit, making all those welds and spots go away is an impossible excercise.
except elon's literally said that they will eventually be almost completely invisible to see in upcoming prototypes

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:29:44 2020 No.12497861 File: 402 KB, 1386x927, usroads.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497852 truly

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:33:24 2020 No.12497868 >>12497855 As a welder, extreme doubt.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:34:17 2020 No.12497872

>>12497855
Yeah, as they move from prototype stage to customer-ready stage, their finish product will evolve over time. We've already seen huge improvements from the initial Starhopper to current SN9 builds. SN15 seen few days ago was even more of an improvement over the current version.
So the finish polish will come as they get closer/closer to an actual release product. Its a matter of getting more production robot welders and optimizing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:34:51 2020 No.12497874 >>12497868 i think i'll trust SpaceX's opinion over yours

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:37:51 2020 No.12497879 >>12497855 >believing a word that comes from elon's mouth lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:39:21 2020 No.12497880 >>12497284 As long as SN9 goes to the same height as SN8, the approval won't take but a day or two... if it isn't already done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:40:59 2020 No.12497881 >>12497879 He's often right, just his time scales are very off

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:42:39 2020 No.12497884 File: 219 KB, 741x418, 1573441481305.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497861 That's an old one, it doesn't have I-69

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:43:40 2020 No.12497888 >>12497881 Everyone's timescales are off by 30+ years and dozens of 50+ billions off. Musk's timelines are few years off and few billions off. AFAIK, its the fastest timeline in the industry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:50:50 2020 No.12497899 File: 1.95 MB, 1600x1200, 1601855537761.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497852 God bless Texas

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:56:01 2020 No.12497910
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>>12497855
>>12497872
I seriously fucking hope not. I don't want big shiny dildos like you see in most of the "final starship" renders. I like the industrial grit and raw utilitarianism of the current Starships. Of course there's some stuff that would be better of being made nice and presentable, but the way she is now is nice.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:57:09 2020 No.12497912

>>12497874
The visual imperfections are mostly results of heat and oxidisation. Oxidisation could be mitigated with difficultly by having a contraption that sprays argon on the other side of where you are welding but unless you get the whole fucking thing up to the same molten slag welding temperature it will never look homogenous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:02:25 2020 No.12497918 >>12497910 This is sexy. Really looks like a 1950s retrofuturism drawing of a 2000s spaceship. Starship looked great in motion, so who gives a shit how it looks on the stand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:06:47 2020 No.12497929 >>12497910 You'd still be able to see some evidence of weld lines, so it'd look somewhat segmented, but they won't be so dirty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:09:49 2020 No.12497936 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcs8uTbPYXs

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:17:20 2020 No.12497948 >>12496687 >planet_of_the_rapes.jpg

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:20:12 2020 No.12497958 >>12496687 >Let this be a warning to all who dare face Starhopper

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:21:15 2020 No.12497962 >>12497910 There won't be any smooth starships ever unless they get some ungodly machine to form the tank in one piece.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:22:49 2020 No.12497968 >>12497912 >by having a contraption that sprays argon sounds expensive. Are there any strength benefits to doing that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:24:15 2020 No.12497973 >>12497962 >>12497910 There will always be lines on it. Even the sleek Atlas family had the weld lines until Atlas III retired in 2005

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:25:07 2020 No.12497977 File: 93 KB, 1200x466, 1200px-Tempering_colors_in_steel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497910 Reminder that Starship will gradually change color as it undergoes reentry heating from successive flights.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:26:28 2020 No.12497979 >>12497962 Would 50,000 tons do it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Press_Program

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:26:29 2020 No.12497980 >>12497977 Won't the non-shielded side of starship experience relatively minor heating compared to the shielded side?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:26:48 2020 No.12497981 >>12497977 yeah, shades of brown

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:30:15 2020 No.12497993 >>12497977 Also reminder that it will look like a literal flying turd because it will only ever be in the lower temperature ranges. Kind of unfortunate but still funny desu.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:33:03 2020 No.12498002

>>12497874
As a former welder, not fucking happening. They're not gonna mass produce them and go over them with angle grinders and a billion tubs of autosol just to make them ride shiny and chrome.
Because grinding down the welds also weakens them.

They'll look slightly better as time goes on and production lines get more and more automated and streamlined, but to assume that they'll look near flawless, fucking forget it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:34:33 2020 No.12498008

>>12497968
Welding rigs already spray argon from the hot side where the worst oxidation is, you could have one dude with a bottle who just runs around the opposite side scaffolding and follows the inside guy around. But no there will be minimal benefits since by far the worst of it happens on the weld surface and not the reverse side.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:38:40 2020 No.12498014 >>12495414 Apart from being the size of a fucking ocean liner that doesn't seem like a bad concept.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:48:57 2020 No.12498036 I think there've been tweets from elon about planishing welds but like others have said I like the tough, utilitarian look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:50:46 2020 No.12498041 >>12498036 I'm sure if they do it it will probably be for a utilitarian reason. Maybe you can get a noticeable weight reduction from it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:52:38 2020 No.12498045 File: 216 KB, 2344x2474, SN8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497745 >>12497775 Quick an dirty edit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:56:34 2020 No.12498052 >>12498045 Very nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:28:49 2020 No.12498103 >>12497910 hehe this is the one i shooped the words and banner out of >:^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:30:17 2020 No.12498106 >>12497977 Yeah, poop and mustard color. It's not gonna be a faggy rainbow unless it flips wrong way round, then you got bigger problems

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:30:29 2020 No.12498107 >>12498045 You scared me there for a second, anon. Almost thought you meant the futa version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:32:43 2020 No.12498110 >>12498002 wouldnt F9 look rough too if they skipped painting?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:46:28 2020 No.12498133 >>12498045 disappointed it's not the futa version

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:47:11 2020 No.12498135 >>12498045 I woulda thought her face would look more nervous

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:49:25 2020 No.12498138 File: 132 KB, 1845x499, Epzo_8AU8AM69gW.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1341204446076813320 Rocket Lab's newest pad is making progress

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:49:51 2020 No.12498141 If Lockheed is buying Rocketdyne for know how building engines, and if ULA is buying from BO, what will Lockheed want to do with AJ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:54:10 2020 No.12498149 >>12498141 Corner the market on AJ10s and RL10s.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:54:31 2020 No.12498150

>>12498008
I see. Thanks for the explanation. Starship dev has really introduced me to how nuanced metalwork is.

If starship was made with aluminum would they be going about it in the same way? I mean with welding large sheets and stacking them horizontally.

Anyways, Musk is pretty big on aesthetics. Though he's also a cheapskate. I wonder if he'll invest on a (pricey) solution to reduce the welds as much as possible. Or if he'll embrace them.

>>12498106
>>12497993
that sucks. Though some shade of brown are better than others.

>>12498138
Nice. RL are some cool guys

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:55:35 2020 No.12498152 >>12498150 If Starship was made from aluminum it'd be like 30x as expensive.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:59:37 2020 No.12498161

>>12498152
not really sure what they were thinking with carbon fibre at the start. The price would be fucking insane, and they wouldn't be able to iterate like they are now with steel. Also I wouldn't want to be an astronaut going to a hostile world in something fragile.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:10:12 2020 No.12498187 >>12498149 Aren't they trying to market the AR-1s?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:13:38 2020 No.12498196 >>12496405 Kill women who don’t want to have kids.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:14:40 2020 No.12498198 >>12496405 Abortion is murder

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:16:48 2020 No.12498202 >>12496468 >I’m a soulless shut in who stares at screens all day What a fucked up society

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:18:14 2020 No.12498206 >>12496574 Is that a tranny? Gross

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:19:42 2020 No.12498211 >>12496744 Because it’d be boring and make you go crazy

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:21:45 2020 No.12498217 >>12498138 Smart move relocating away from our nanny state shithole. Mommy Jacinda is about to start putting on the strap on to fuck businesses.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:23:21 2020 No.12498222
File: 1.25 MB, 1276x720, SN9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>12497663
SLS tanks would REALLY be a good place to make pressurized space garages. It's not even the same concern as say, methalox in starship because it's hydrolox, which when evaporated, can be breathed safely.
>>12497745
Someone should draw SN9 doing something like pic related.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:37:49 2020 No.12498256 >>12498206 It looks like Nicolas Cage in a wig.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:40:39 2020 No.12498262 >>12498256 Trannies usually are just guys in wigs tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:41:20 2020 No.12498263 Even if you could afford to go to Mars, what you you even do on it for 4 years?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:42:28 2020 No.12498266 File: 817 KB, 750x980, A5ED50C7-BDEA-4C76-87A0-888C3330704D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Califags need to leave Texas

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:43:54 2020 No.12498268 >>12498263 probably work on avoiding the constant threat of complete system collapse

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:45:06 2020 No.12498270 >>12498217 This is a second NZ pad. At least the Wallops pad is supposedly done though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:47:10 2020 No.12498274 File: 9 KB, 240x160, SRX.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12498263 I'd probably help dig out tunnels and install airlocks in the tunnels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:50:30 2020 No.12498279 >>12498263 i will open an irish pub

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:51:06 2020 No.12498281 >>12498274 >install airlocks in the tunnels how is one xir possibly going to piss that much

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:54:47 2020 No.12498284 >>12498281 The airlock will just be the bathroom to the irish pub

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:56:10 2020 No.12498285 >>12498263 Getting cancer and losing bone density.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:57:53 2020 No.12498289 >>12498266 this is going to be the best phone wallpaper

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:58:25 2020 No.12498291 >>12498263 I don’t think anyone really wants to live on Mars. It’d suck ass, there’d be tons of suicide and mental illnesses

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:58:40 2020 No.12498292

>>12498284
Speaking of piss, i learned today that on ISS fresh water is stored in the same type of container as astronaut pee. I also learned that the American astronauts steal Russian pee and drink it after purifying. The Russians dont do the same with American pee bc they dont have a purifier :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:02:09 2020 No.12498301 >>12498292 Zvezda has condensers and purifiers, but the Russian only use recycled water if there is an emergency.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:04:58 2020 No.12498307 File: 3.83 MB, 6500x4313, AS16-115-18559[rszcmprs].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12498263 go off-roading

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:05:44 2020 No.12498311 File: 57 KB, 1280x720, rocco.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12498263 I guess I'd have a Coke

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:06:34 2020 No.12498314 >>12498307 They should only let hillbilly fighter pilots be astronauts again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:13:20 2020 No.12498326 >>12498301 i wish the russians were just bros and drinked our pee. it would seal the deal

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:17:42 2020 No.12498334 File: 54 KB, 1280x720, chinese space program landing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12498281 Easy, you store piss ahead of time via urination in the starships transporting the crews to Mars.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:20:18 2020 No.12498340 >Russians collect piss bottles in the ISS >Bottles occasionally float around the other modules >Russians dump the bottles out the cubesat dispenser while Americans are asleep

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:20:33 2020 No.12498341

>>12498307
> 14 December 1972 | EVA 3 ROI [Report of Interest] | “We didn’t know what to expect from Cernan,” stated Bob Parker, who served as CAPCOM for the duration of the mission, “we were all sittin’ there waiting for a com check, but Cernan wasn’t responding.” As a matter of fact, commander Eugene Cernan was rather intentional with his late response. 30 minutes had past before mission control received a daring response, “Yolo, PS5 > letters of discipline”

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:20:43 2020 No.12498342 File: 3.87 MB, 4400x3929, AS17-145-22165[rszcmprs].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12498314 sorry anon it's almost 2021 we can't have nice things anymore

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:32:41 2020 No.12498363 File: 153 KB, 433x368, kussy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would you a kerbal?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:37:42 2020 No.12498371 >>12498363 They’re like three foot tall, but sure I guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:38:02 2020 No.12498372 >>12498263 tunnel shit and maybe going on rover trips.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:39:35 2020 No.12498375 >>12498363 why not

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:48:08 2020 No.12498384 >>12495930 > this needs a shooting star edit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:50:09 2020 No.12498389 I thought SN10 had a nose cone attached? Did they remove it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:52:53 2020 No.12498393 >>12498389 Not yet, cone got the wings and sn10 is in the high bay waiting for the cone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 01:54:39 2020 No.12498395 File: 3.97 MB, 4200x4246, AS16-107-17537[rszshpcmprs].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 02:04:08 2020 No.12498413 >>12498340 why would they be so cruel

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 02:04:23 2020 No.12498414 >>12498363 > canon Kerbs are made of a spongy material > you can hate fuck the little green girl with ferocity that would break human bones What's not to love?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 02:17:10 2020 No.12498441 >>12498414 I imagine that they're still flesh and blood, but their ability to bend out of place and shit and go on without a scratch would still make them good experiences to have.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 02:36:45 2020 No.12498476 File: 101 KB, 1280x1920, 09E67BE5-6AF3-4A9B-AFB4-0CD615F130EF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12498363 You can tell they really made the female kerbals look “prettier.”

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 02:37:29 2020 No.12498480 File: 29 KB, 400x407, Adeptus_mecanics.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12497405 Praise the Omnissiah and our Decon. Lord Selby.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 02:40:25 2020 No.12498486 >>12498476 I could make an Android Space Program video game from scratch and get it out quicker than KSP2’s release hahah

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 02:49:12 2020 No.12498500

The new NASA CFO Greg Autry is actually kinda based. I hope he stays long enough to dunk on the National Team in the HLS downselect, the dude is super commercial space friendly. He's also Zubrin-approved, and helped convince the white house to set an ambitious landing date for Artemis

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 02:49:23 2020 No.12498502

>>12497405
>The cultists of Eseles pray to a cylindrical tower painted orange, they hold something green, with the most pious painting themselves green, and perform a complex set of rituals around it, sometimes burning paper money as an offering, holding faith that one day it will come alive and take them to the stars

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 03:05:05 2020 No.12498516 Does the US have nuclear powered microwave beams in orbit now or are we waiting for China to do it first

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 03:12:41 2020 No.12498521 >page 10

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 03:24:33 2020 No.12498535 >>12498500 oh wait....he wasnt even confirmed. senate had a hearing but didnt vote and now no one will be appointed until biden slips in. wtf

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 03:32:10 2020 No.12498548 >>12498393 What flavour?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:26:32 2020 No.12498618 >>12495858 reality isn't an instant dopamine burst like the internet, fren

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:28:35 2020 No.12498623 >>12496005 depends on how well they modeled the vibrational resonances... if these tiles enter resonance they will fall off 100%

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:30:29 2020 No.12498628 >>12495972 bel canale Antonio

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:36:28 2020 No.12498637 >>12496379 who cares? just launch that metallic mofo

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:38:20 2020 No.12498640

>>12496853
>SN9 IN MY OFFICE NOW!
>YOUR LITTLE STUNT IN THE HIGH BAY HAS COST US EIGHT DAYS, I'VE GOT THE CEO BREATHING DOWN MY NECK!
>:sigh:
>But you're a damn good rocket. Report to the landing pad. Hey aren't you forgetting something?
>:tosses replacement wing flap:

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:38:41 2020 No.12498641 >>12497393 *homogeneous mixture

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:41:04 2020 No.12498649 >>12498263 field testing new anti-radiation materials for example

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:44:41 2020 No.12498656 >>12496657 Uncultured swine, tourists. The usual.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:52:49 2020 No.12498673 New thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 05:11:16 2020 No.12498698 >>12498138 God it's so cute.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 05:13:52 2020 No.12498702 >>12498673 Here: >>12498701

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 05:26:36 2020 No.12498725 >>12496953 This is how failure looks like if it's ripped from the abstract realm and given a physical body.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 05:40:54 2020 No.12498749 >>12497837 >>12497810 Fuck yes, I want far flung bases into some unethical but extremely progressive research on some random moon of Saturn or on Triton.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 05:47:34 2020 No.12498756 >>12498291 You sound like a normie. I wouldn't have problems living on Mars for a couple years, it wouldn't psychologically be any worse than my shut-in period.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 06:01:31 2020 No.12498776 >>12498756 >You sound like someone who isn’t a shut-in lonely NEET Thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 06:04:58 2020 No.12498784 >>12498776 lol you literally can't imagine being away from other people, how do you guys cope when you break up?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 06:10:28 2020 No.12498792 >>12498776 Again, you sound like a normie. Yes I was a shut-in NEET. Yes, I would be prime Martian material. Welcome to 4chen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 06:21:26 2020 No.12498803 >>12497383 Great song anon. Listened to it so many times in HS it's burned in my brain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 06:23:29 2020 No.12498807 >>12497918 >1950s retrofuturism drawing of a 2000s spaceship Why was old sci-fi more accurate than the 60's-70's and after one ? Is that Elon's main source of inspiration ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:09:43 2020 No.12498875 >>12497153 yes, DM-1 won something

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