Jupiter - Saturn Conjunction Thread

[Anonymous No.12491092]

This thread is to post our pictures of the event and discuss.

>Where can I see the planets?

If you are in the northern hemisphere, look south west.
If you are in the southern hemisphere, look west.

>When?
The minimum distance is scheduled for around 18:22 UTC on 21 december (today) but the conjunction is already visible since some months and will still be visible in the following ones.

In the pic is a simulated possible best case scenario.

[Anonymous No.12491197]

pluto probably planet

[Anonymous No.12491203]

Just saw this thread and it's happening in one minute, neat.

[Anonymous No.12491288]

>>12491203
Do you know what UTC means?

[Anonymous No.12491329]

>>12491203
18:22 UTC is 6 and half hours from now dude, learn time zones

[Anonymous No.12491338]

>>12491092
How tf do they calculate the time, and how do they know where the planets will be in ~1 million years?

[Anonymous No.12491339]

>>12491338
orbital mechanics, ellipse equations

[Anonymous No.12491381]

>>12491339
Don't the other planets perturb each other?

[Anonymous No.12491406]

>>12491381
in the early years of the solar system probably, but now a certain equilibrium should be attained and the effects of one planet on another are quite small because of the distance.

[Anonymous No.12491411]

>>12491381
here some people were discussing the same question but for Jupiter and the Earth:
https://stargazerslounge.com/topic/81698-does-the-gravity-from-jupiter-affects-earth-in-any-way/

[Anonymous No.12491460]

>>12491411
Thank you, but I want to predict where the Earth and the planets will be in 1-10 million years (limit due to chaos). How do they do that? I think there is more than what >>12491339 said

[Anonymous No.12491462]

[Anonymous No.12491488]

>>12491462
lmao wut

[Anonymous No.12491491]

>>12491460
I think these formulas approximate the movement of planets in a million years scale quite well... with a small error that can be considered negligible. idk if a proper astronomer anon can confirm

[Anonymous No.12491514]

>>12491488
Don't you see, it all lines up
>Supernova passes through both Saturn and Jupiter on its way to the Sun, which could only happen if they were aligned
>date of conjunction is December 21st
>Aztec day of apocalypse: December 21st, 2012
>FF7 released 199*8*
>2012 + 8 = 2020

[Anonymous No.12491647]

>>12491092
>Overcast down under right now
Meh, there's this stream showing it at least https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHNwLqza37k

[Anonymous No.12491716]

>>12491647
why can i see the galilean moons in my 30 year old spotting scope, but none of these live streams can see them?
normies need to see those fuckers

[Anonymous No.12491765]

>>12491716
if you zoom too much you see the moons but cut out one of the planets. wait some more hours for minimum distance

[Anonymous No.12491789]

>>12491716
>>12491647
this one I found has the moons too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5bj1orKpcA

[Anonymous No.12491805]

>>12491789
still me
nice quality... very stable mount

[Anonymous No.12491815]

>>12491789
thanks friend

[Anonymous No.12491818]

deleted last couple of posts because video was a clickbait simulation... it seemed too stable to be true

[Anonymous No.12491823]

>>12491815
it was fake sadly

[Anonymous No.12491828]

>>12491823
well thanks anyway

[Anonymous No.12491843]

this one seems really live, and you see the moons, nice even if quality is a bit meh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojUeIqxdzm4

[Anonymous No.12491849]

>>12491843
not live, again
footage from yesterday or previous days

[Anonymous No.12491865]

>>12491514
>FF7 released 199*8*
It came out in 1997 retard.

[Anonymous No.12491877]

>>12491865
PC version came out 1998

[Anonymous No.12491879]

>>12491877
based, PC versions are all that matters
fuck consolefags

[Anonymous No.12491885]

>>12491092
all I see is venus, northern hemisphere here

[Anonymous No.12491893]

>>12491647
this stream is not live, from yesterday. literal clickbait

[Anonymous No.12491898]

>>12491885
I'm OP, here where I live it's cloudy af
nothing will be visible for the next 10 hours at least

[Anonymous No.12491909]

>>12491898
This is the main reason I largely stopped trying to spot astronomical phenomena by myself. I missed the comet last summer because clouds kept fucking with me. Gladly, I've managed to witness this conjunction with the naked eye at dusk and it feels wrong that two planets are so close to each other in the sky lmao.

[Anonymous No.12491917]

>>12491488
>>12491909
dumb lmaoposter

[Anonymous No.12491918]

>>12491885
I've spotted it at dusk. It's very hard to miss because they are literally the closest objects to each other in the sky right now so they stand out.

[Anonymous No.12492032]

>>12491898
thought so, the OP said 6hr 5hours ago so I assumed dawn

[Anonymous No.12492063]

>>12491338
They are very consistent and there are little variables to consider when calculating orbits.

[Anonymous No.12492238]

I am in Mid Michigan and the weather is supposed to be snowy and overcast
Should I even bother trying to see anything?
I know it will be in the sky for days before and after, but I'd like to try tonight if there is even a small chance

[Anonymous No.12492243]

>>12492032
it's actually dusk now here anon

[Anonymous No.12492247]

It's been cloudy for days now.

[Anonymous No.12492255]

what's the situation with the poo livestreams?

[Anonymous No.12492295]

Took these over the last few days with my old 4 inch reflector and an iPhone. Was a nightmare to catch on the phone with the different exposures

[Anonymous No.12492297]

>>12492295

[Anonymous No.12492418]

>>12492295
>>12492297
not bad at all anon, Saturn's rings are clearly distinguishable

[Anonymous No.12492424]

>>12491917
we're actually two different lmao anons

[Anonymous No.12492431]

This appears to be an actual livestream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhB1lsfcVs

[Army mustache No.12492498]

Well, it's not my best photo ... but I caught it.
Through the window I saw a hole in the clouds and a point of light. I grabbed the SW 909 refractor (named Straw) that was unpacked and ready as I'm preparing to sell it. I took the 6mm eyepiece.
I put the warm tube on the balcony. I took a pic with the phone of what the eyepiece showed. I did not have time to correct the ISO, I did not have time to record anything. But I managed to catch those guys. It was 16:49, on 2020-12-21, Poland. Then the clouds covered everything. That was that.
It will be a beautiful farewell to Straw. Final Straw.

[Anonymous No.12492523]

I feel a bit dumb
earlier this year I saw some huge shining thing in the sky
I thought it was a star but in retrospect it probably was jupiter

the conjunction is too cloudly to see from where I live now though

[Anonymous No.12492527]

>>12492498
at least it's something and you also can see the moons, that's not bad

[Anonymous No.12492541]

ugh there does not seem to be a livestream without annoying spam overlays
>follow us on facebook xD
>pajeet paj is a top donator
>views randomly change
>scrolling text

I will just wait for VR to become better or visit a virtual observatory at some point

[Army mustache No.12492546]

>>12492527
Thx. I guess I can post some other of my pics. My best Jupiter so far.
Moar?

[Anonymous No.12492557]

>>12492546
this is very nice, post'em fren

[Anonymous No.12492562]

the website is also not bad
comfy universe pics

[Army mustache No.12492586]

>>12492562
>>12492557
Thx man. It was a very budget astrophotography so far. I've bought new gear but I had clouds for 3 months now.
My best Saturn.

[Anonymous No.12492622]

>>12492586
Nice!
Are you able to see Saturn's moons with your setup?
I would try to build a parabolic liquid gallium film telescope when I can... these things are low cost and scale-up is easy if you are able to build a 2 axis mount

[Anonymous No.12492654]

>>12492546
Awwww, it looks soooo cute!
Like a tiny small marble.

[Army mustache No.12492672]

>>12492622
Don't have any pics of those. Now my setup should be enough to get the brighter of Saturn's moons. Unfortunately the weather is shit and the season for Jupiter and Saturn is ending. Will have to wait till summer to get a good shot at Saturn.

Pic: transfer of Ganimede infront of Jupiter. You can actually see only the shadow.

[Army mustache No.12492735]

Live feed from polish mission to La Palma. They have telescopes pointed at the conjunction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea4sRrGkoUk

[Anonymous No.12492842]

>>12491647
Thanks for sharing, it´s the best I found so far.
Merry Christmas everyone

[Anonymous No.12492849]

>>12492431
>>12492842

[Anonymous No.12493043]

If you were orbiting either Jupiter or Saturn right now would you be able to see the other one with naked eye? how big would it look? bigger than how the sun look to us?

[Anonymous No.12493083]

>>12493043
Jupiter and Saturn are about the same distance as Earth to Jupiter.

[Army mustache No.12493111]

>>12493043
>If you were orbiting either Jupiter or Saturn right now would you be able to see the other one with naked eye?
Yes. You can see them both with a naked eye from Earth. They look like bright stars, with Jupiter being very bright. Right now the distance from Jupiter to Saturn is somewhat similar to the distance from Jupiter to Earth. However looking from Saturn at Jupiter it would be crescent and thin, because the sun would be on the oposite side. Looking from Jupiter at Satutn it would seem to be twice as bright as from Earth. You would not see disks, just bright points. Definitely not as big and bright as the Sun.

[Anonymous No.12493515]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhB1lsfcVs
much better stream imo

[Anonymous No.12493529]

Just went out and saw it. Pretty nice.
Seems to be about the same separation as Mizar and Alcor. Easily discernible from each other with decent vision.

[Anonymous No.12493563]

All I saw were two white dots. Lame

[Anonymous No.12493628]

Cell phone quality conjunction, but you can see what's going on.
Used skymap to locate in quickly.

[Anonymous No.12493644]

>>12491092
Fml I think I missed it. I'm 655pm EST. Should I commit seppuku

[Anonymous No.12493649]

Is it happening right now?

[Anonymous No.12493666]

>>12492295
>>12492297
Managed to get this one before it became overcast

[Anonymous No.12493667]

>go out to see if I can see anything
>too cloudy
>can't even spot a single star
well shit

[Anonymous No.12493682]

>>12493644
>Should I commit seppuku
Don't worry anon, there will be some conjunctions in the future.

t. missed the 2016 mercury transit AND this conjunction

[Anonymous No.12493712]

went out and saw it had some trouble with my telescope but i did see saturns rings

[Anonymous No.12493714]

>>12492295
iso = contrast, then adjust exposure for brightness

[Anonymous No.12493731]

>>12493714
I don't have a phone mount for my telescope so I had to rig a tripod and put the phone against the eyepiece.

[Anonymous No.12493735]

>>12491092
>he's not watching the conjunction from Saturn
Jupiter's dark side is only visible though.

[Anonymous No.12493758]

I can't see shit

[Anonymous No.12493762]

Marsanus chads, we're we at?

[Anonymous No.12493766]

My sad attempt

[Anonymous No.12493778]

>>12491092
Nigger this is bullshit. Ive seen the shit and its nowhere as near as I was promised.

[Anonymous No.12493791]

Holy shit the conjunction just flew over my house.

[Anonymous No.12493793]

what kind of telescope can i get for around 1k usd? anything good? should i ask /p/ instead?

[Anonymous No.12493794]

Mine, without much effort.

[Anonymous No.12493867]

>>12493766
That's great, I can distinguish Saturn's rings. Here's my shaky attempt, which I was glad to capture a few of Jupiter's moons too.

[Anonymous No.12493893]

>>12493867
...are those actually moons?

[Anonymous No.12493961]

>>12493893
Yes. And the diagonal thing are rings.

[Anonymous No.12493968]

>>12493794
Seriously man, this planet goes too fast. That's the only picture i could take because the shitty telescope was dropping and the damn planet moving.

[Anonymous No.12493976]

>>12493961
Well yeah I understand that Saturn in that picture is the smaller oval, but from all the pictures I've seen from this conjunction I haven't seen bright moons like that.

[Anonymous No.12493978]

Did I miss it?

[Anonymous No.12493992]

>>12493978
It's literally over.

[Anonymous No.12493999]

>>12493978
Sorry bud, unless you can wait for 800 years it's over.

[Anonymous No.12494011]

>>12493999
>Sorry bud, unless you can wait for 800 years it's over.
I don't see a problem.

[Anonymous No.12494039]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1AG8Xi_uo6JmVavYpEgPxavvIiTBiMXQvDAVLdZzfcYMLYlR06psHr5TI&v=glhB1lsfcVs&feature=youtu.be
Livestream for however long their view lasts.

[Anonymous No.12494045]

Octopi do not have any bones with the exception of their beaks. So if you are responsible and depraved enough to be literally the life support of your 8 limbed friend, you can debeak it like how you’d declaw a cat and then push your member into its feed chute.

You can then let it subsist on your baby batter.

The Octopus is smart. Very smart. It will learn that without its beak, it cannot feed on anything else but your human seed that has to be milked from you.

Every morning, you will feel your clothes slide off and a damp weight on your lower half.

The sensation creeps up on your body until most of the jiggly mass has enveloped the entire length. It will start pumping as fast as it can for it is hungry.

The animal gyrates its empty stomach and the folds of its brain rubbing on your glands, begging for nutrition.

You climax and give the marine creature’s breakfast. The pumping slows down but doesn’t stop to milk out the last few drops of its meal.

Looking into its yellow animal eyes, it looks back with a thousand-yard stare. This will be routine for all of its meals for the rest of its 3-5 years on this god forsaken planet.

[Anonymous No.12494046]

>>12493999
>>12493992

Nope, closest approach is not for about another hour. It has set where I live, but depending on where you are, you may still have a shot.

And it'll still be a reasonably close view tomorrow night.

[Anonymous No.12494057]

Not a bad pic, the sky was still a bit bright, but I got Callisto, Europa and Io as well.

[Anonymous No.12494060]

>>12494039
Why would a livestream like this show Saturn's rings well but show none of Jupiter's moons like this amateur photo?
>>12493867

[Anonymous No.12494061]

>>12493529
Also, the somewhat underwhelming Ursid meteors peak tonight.

[Anonymous No.12494067]

>>12491716
If you want to see the rings well on video, and not have them washed out by the planet "glare," you have to tromp on the brightness enough that you may lose the moons.

[Anonymous No.12494071]

>>12491462
I don't think that's right...

[Anonymous No.12494077]

>>12491092
Ganymede is in transit at the moment, for about another hour or so iirc.

[Anonymous No.12494108]

>>12494067
My university has an observatory, so I was able to see the moons ever so faintly, but the detail of Jupiter and Saturn were great. Small group of folks, chatting about Super Metroid. Nice experience, but I'm shit at calculus.

[Anonymous No.12494147]

>>12494057
is that a phone pic? Are you seriously seeing rings and moons on a phone pic?

[Anonymous No.12494154]

>>12494147
No, no rings in my pic. I'm seeing moons -- but not a phone pic, I have a Lumix DMC-fz300, with a fair amount of zoom. You can make out moons with decent binoculars.

[Anonymous No.12494157]

>>12494060
I make out three moons , just to the right of the three red dots.

Note the live stream has ended, they're on replay now. And the position of the moons changes notably over an hour.

[Anonymous No.12494159]

why is astronomy so fucking boring?

[Anonymous No.12494172]

>>12494159
because you live in a light polluted shithole

[Anonymous No.12494176]

>>12494077
ganymede more like gaymede

[Anonymous No.12494191]

>>12491092
Tfw you've been planning on seeing it for months but the weather decides to be overcast and snowy the entire day and night BUT you're friend who is in the perfect part of the country to see it knows about it but just blows it off.At least my gf in South Carolina was able get this sick view and pic of it

[Anonymous No.12494233]

>>12494176
You could have done better than that. Gaymenneed or something.

[Anonymous No.12494240]

>>12494191
Good luck with that long distance shit man. It's tough to maintain. You just know her pussy is aching while you're so far away.

[Anonymous No.12494264]

>>12494176
>>12494233
Ganysneed

[Anonymous No.12494266]

My binoculars

[Anonymous No.12494269]

>>12494266
and

[Anonymous No.12494275]

>>12493978
It's a nothingburger. Tomorrow they'll be close again.

[Anonymous No.12494281]

>tfw clouds

[Anonymous No.12494287]

>>12494264
formerly Ganychuck

[Anonymous No.12494288]

>>12491381
Yes and this is also predictable but can often be ignored in practice as the effect is incredibly small over short timescales.

[Anonymous No.12494305]

>>12491491
Perturbations are significant over tens of thousands of years, let alone millions.

[Anonymous No.12494309]

>>12491092
Fuck I don't know why, but looking at saturn in the op pic kinda blew me away, we can see these things as kinda small, but they're so fucking HUGE it's hard to comprehend

[Anonymous No.12494351]

>>12491885
>venus
penus wenus

[Anonymous No.12494353]

>>12494309
What are you talking about with awe for Saturn? Jupiter's path through the primordial solar system allowed for earth to form as it has. We can only thank jupiter for slinging shit our way versus sucking the life out of other forms that might have had a chance.

[Anonymous No.12494357]

>>12494353
Saturn's rings give some sort of perspective as an object thats actually beside it, jupiter doesn't have that

[Anonymous No.12494369]

>>12494357
That's just it. Flashy rings versus a giant that gave our planet actual life material and took it away from others. Jupiter is much more awe inspiring.

[Anonymous No.12494395]

>>12494353
>>12494369
Interesting that the romans picked it as the main deity

[Anonymous No.12494424]

[Anonymous No.12494465]

>>12494424
very nice

[Anonymous No.12494764]

Nice picture from another thread

[Anonymous No.12495208]

>>12494357
I could clearly see the moons when looking at Jupiter with the naked eye

[Anonymous No.12495232]

>>12494764
Cool shit, I'm definitely gonna get a 200mm telescope

[Anonymous No.12495314]

this is kind of fucking boring, guys. When are the gates of hell going to open?

[Anonymous No.12495328]

>>12495314
if a supernova explodes near us you will die before having the chance to observe it