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/scsg/ - STEM Career Support General Anonymous Sun Dec 20 10:18:19 2020 No.12487940 [Reply] [Original]

Welcome to STEM Career Support General!
This thread exists to posit questions regarding careers associated to STEM.
> Advice on academia based career progression
> Advice on penetrating industry from academia
> Or anything in relation to STEM employment or development within STEM academia!

Resources for protecting yourself from academic marxists:
>https://www.thefire.org/ (US)
>https://www.jccf.ca/ (Canada)

Physics related resource:
>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/

NOTE: Any useful resources relayed in this thread will be included in future /scsg/ threads. Additionally, I will be working on a dedicated platform serving as a safe space (unironically) for STEM academics (and academics in general) to discuss taboo subjects without risking their position/tenure. Upon completion it will be announced here!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 10:39:43 2020 No.12487973 Bump

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 10:40:27 2020 No.12487976

I'm going back to school for a second bachelors currently in CS. I can enroll in a Stats masters since I have enough of a math background to get in to NC State.
>Is the job market for CS better than stats?
>Both are enjoyable to me since they are technical jobs, but what has more flexibility, better work life balance, etc?
Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 10:55:06 2020 No.12488005 >>12487940 PhD-holding conservation ecologist here willing to field questions about school, postdocs, finding employment, or professional life in general.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 11:12:13 2020 No.12488044 >>12487940 >Physics related resource Just now it is related to physics but more fields are meant to be added. t.Author

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 11:23:53 2020 No.12488063 >>12487940 I would study SQL. I got a degree in stats and SQL determined my career path.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 11:34:11 2020 No.12488090 >>12488044 Brilliant, mate. Great contribution.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 11:37:37 2020 No.12488096 Has anyone had a software development interview with GE?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 12:38:25 2020 No.12488300 >>12487976 To clarify, you have a bachelors in CS and are considering returning for an additional bachelors?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:06:35 2020 No.12488422 How can i get the most money out of university with a MechE major? t. Sophomore MechE

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:28:09 2020 No.12488488 >>12488300 No, bachelors in business and getting another in CS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:48:55 2020 No.12488550 >>12487940 Engineering student looking for work the months before I start uni (SE of England)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:51:48 2020 No.12488561 alright. so i want to go into academia in genetics. our genetics department is great, and im doing my undergrad with the department head. what are my prospects /sci? hard work and success, or poverty and misery?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:59:09 2020 No.12488590 File: 73 KB, 500x650, 2a14dbc6a5163a27e5d03db16fa2cdfbe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >jannies ban the science carreer general >allow the stem carreer general Are jannies engineers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 14:36:39 2020 No.12488742 >>12488590 They just killed off another thread about career in science so this might be next. We still don't know what rule, if any, this contravenes. Meanwhile apple shills have an open season on 4ch.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 15:28:52 2020 No.12489010

>>12488561
>what are my prospects /sci? hard work and success, or poverty and misery?
We cannot answer that for you. Such things are reliant on yourself, in addition to random factors. Learn as much as possible, get good grades (those aren't the same thing), and network with professors whilst studying. Simply identifying professors who are undertaking research that you're interested in and then meeting them goes quite a long way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 16:55:57 2020 No.12489376 Bump

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 16:59:42 2020 No.12489399

I'm about to borrow a book from my public library to help me learn python. I have no programming experience or knowledge, I barely know how to turn on my computer, but I want to learn it. I will be taking an intro to CS course at my community college starting this January.
Are there any specific books anyone knows about that would be good for a beginner?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:15:20 2020 No.12489451 >>12489399 https://cscircles.cemc.uwaterloo.ca/ This is short tutorial

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:33:11 2020 No.12489515 >>12488005 >PhD-holding conservation ecologist How poor are you right now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:35:44 2020 No.12489520 >>12489451 Wow, thanks anon. This is much better than the other online tutorial I had been chipping away at.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:33:58 2020 No.12489696 >>12489515 Not really. I make a decent living ($62k USD) for where I'm located.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:46:15 2020 No.12489733

>>12488590
I support this general regardless of the name, but I think STEM is better because it includes more careers related to what is regularly discussed on /sci/. If you don't want to take a stance on what topics are allowed on /sci/, then simply "Career General" or could work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:53:36 2020 No.12489758 >>12488590 Can't be, engineers are the one kind of STEM professional that refuse to do it for free

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 20:05:46 2020 No.12489971 If I have an IQ of like 120 or so can I make it easily as an engineer? I don't feel like an idiot but I don't feel like exactly like a genius either.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 20:46:01 2020 No.12490069

>>12487844
>you could switch to patenting.
Had to help write a patent at work and I hated it.

>>12487929
I did something like that because I had a big gap between finishing school and going to uni so I thought I would refresh my understanding by going through khan academy in the couple months while waiting for the uni term to begin. I ended up having a really good foundation and getting a perfect GPA for my first year. Set me up really well.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 20:47:40 2020 No.12490073

>>12489971
>make it
>engineer
Engineers aren't making it Anon. They make decent money but they work hard as fuck. Lots of overtime and other "flexitime" "time in lieu" bullshit.
You can make as much or more working as a programmer without the extra stress of shitty hours (depending on how well you manage yourself).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 21:02:59 2020 No.12490108 >>12490073 Yeah but isn't the programmer market saturated with millions of indians and chinese people abroad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 21:04:44 2020 No.12490112 >>12487940 I have a bachelor's in biochemistry, thinking about moving toward bioinformatics - no prior experience in it, and don't know any programming. Thoughts?

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 21:04:56 2020 No.12490113

>>12490108
No more than engineering is. They go through cycles of exporting jobs, realising the work they get back is shitty and has to be redone, hiring locals, getting good work but it's expensive, then exporting jobs again to save money and repeat ad infinitum with the manager/consultant changing between each stage so they can hit their target of either cost saving (export) or quality (local).

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 21:08:17 2020 No.12490121

>>12490112
Check out Automate the Boring Stuff with Python and https://www.edx.org/course/using-python-for-research and maybe CS50x.
I did a bachelors in medicinal chemistry (closest thing I could get to a biochem major) and did the same thing. Starting my postgrad next year where I'll be moving into bioinformatics.
Automate the boring stuff helped me get more familiar with python since I'd played around with it before but never really made much with it. Using Python for research then introduced the actually relevant tools, things that I expect to use in the future. CS50x was interesting as a general primer in computer science but I'm not sure how useful it really would be for doing bioinformatics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 21:43:13 2020 No.12490209 >>12490113 If they're both in that same shitty situation then what is there to do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 21:45:44 2020 No.12490217 >>12488422 1. Get your PE ASAP out of college 2. Find some factory or data center management job with good work/life balance 3. Sling HVAC and fire protection designs on Upwork or Fiver. You’ll clear $160k+ no prob. Maybe more if you hustle.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:36:54 2020 No.12490358

>>12490209
Programmers get paid more, can work from home easier (i.e. can live in places with better QoL than cities) and don't have to work as much overtime.
If you want to work hard and make a lot of money then go into one of those banking/finance/analyst jobs.
Work hours and stress are similar to engineering for triple the salary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:13:22 2020 No.12490445 I want to know all the secret tips, tricks and hacks for getting scholarships. Going to transfer into university next year as an electrical engineer. How do I not pay a dime for my education?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:36:08 2020 No.12490495 >>12489696 >PhD >62k that seems incredibly low, even in the lowest-cost-of-living areas. is this what we're headed for bros?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:14:03 2020 No.12490585 >>12490495 That's about what a PhD would earns here in the most expensive Australian city (Sydney). Junior programmers would also be looking at a similar salary.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:45:01 2020 No.12491074

>>12489010
well i cant controle luck. but i do study, read relevant articles in my free time, i have good grades, i have id-d 4 profs so far who do interesting research, and am in communication/ have a good rapport with one of them. so fingers crossed this works out. unfortunatly corona has stopped most networking posibilities, but hopefully tehy will let us go back to class this spring

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 05:11:21 2020 No.12491252 >>12489696 F I made 60 out o uni with BS Just got an offer 4 years later for 85

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 05:57:41 2020 No.12491333 I have low verbal IQ, how do I move to law anyway? Germany here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 05:59:18 2020 No.12491336 >>318035393 Haunt illusion attacks someone for a few seconds. Wow big whoop. People will buy it, but its not cool or anything. Its literally a light version of her aghs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:00:51 2020 No.12491340 >>318035486 Really? natures profit here i cum. No more lane bullying ever again.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:14:29 2020 No.12491469

>>12491333
Try patent law, that is mainly written work. General law requires you to appear in court. Or become a patent Examiner which requires specialised legal skills.

>>12490069
>Had to help write a patent at work and I hated it.
I take it you were an inventor and had to write an invention disclosure? First time is hard, the format and logic take time to get used to. And you could say the same about scientific articles too. I have been a researcher, and worked in software and electronics development and now I am a patent attorney, so from my experience I can recommend this line of work.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:15:39 2020 No.12491470

>>12491333
Why do you want to do law with low verbal IQ? Law is mainly about that. And particularly in German, the legalese language is very stilted.

Also ich kann folgendes zwar gut nachvollziehen, aber trotz hohem verbalen IQ denk ich nicht dass ich sowas von mir geben könnte:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftp_erJVxNc

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:23:55 2020 No.12491484

>>12489733
>>12487940

OP, in the interest of not getting yeeted, please try to purge all mention of advice from the title as well as initial text. There's a rule specifically relegating advice to the cesspool that is /adv/.

Also, please, someone else, always remember to put this copypasta in. Jannies pls don't hurt frens who want to get ahead.

>In case the jannies want to yeet this off to /adv/ .
>Pls don't:
>
>* pretty high energy given the /sci/ baseline, people definitely want this
>* The crowd on /adv/ knows next to nothing about STEM (in as far as they know anything at all, I hate those faggots), so we want this here
>* Perfect catch-thread for ancillary topics. There's a lot of threads on /sci/ whining about political correctness or other difficulties in STEM, that are best and most constructively addressed in a thread like this.
"""

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:29:32 2020 No.12491497 What jobs do CS grads do in London and England? Asking because England doesn't seem to have much of a tech sector

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:32:40 2020 No.12491504

>>12490445
What country? A pro tip would be to go abroad to a country which has free (and good) higher ed and scholarship programs for foreigners. You (1) get to learn about another culture and broaden your world view as well as career perspective (2) don't pay a dime (3) you might actually even get paid (a tiny bit) for being there.
One good example is Germany, offering scholarships via the legendary DAAD.

Btw, I don't condone this sort of handling of taxpayer money, but if it helps anon, at least we can benefit from it.

In the US most scholarships are pretty pozzed. Unless you're looking to purchase a lot of shoe polish and pull a Trudeau or cut your balls off and pull a Trudeau, it might be hard to get in.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:38:19 2020 No.12491517
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>>12487940
>working on a dedicated platform serving as a safe space (unironically) for STEM academics (and academics in general) to discuss taboo subjects without risking their position/tenure. Upon completion it will be announced here!

keep the good stuff coming based anon.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:45:02 2020 No.12491530

>>12491074
You can always shoot an email and ask if you can make yourself useful to them in these ~difficult times~
Also, try having more than one branch to cling to. They needn't be from your uni either. Even pretty high-up people will gladly reply to an email if you hit them with what they're pondering around about the time when they're pondering it. And most of them are either galaxy- or scatter-brained, so they're usually pondering 6-7 different projects at a time.

A pretty epic move is to make it a reflex to shoot an email to the corresponding author when you actually read an article, if you liked it. Seriously, I have no idea why more people aren't doing this. It's like the logical thing to do, but somehow academia encourages people to be dickless and parochial these days...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:51:31 2020 No.12491542 >>12491484 > in as far as they know anything at all My sides

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:52:33 2020 No.12491544 >>12491504 Are those DAAD scholarships worth applying for? I frequently get emails regarding that but figured it was a meme

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:52:38 2020 No.12491545 >>12491497 Random companies.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:56:56 2020 No.12491552

>>12491544
They have a few different tiers, most of them are worth applying to. You get some money which won't look like much, but if you are willing to live in a student dorm might actually cover your living expenses in a small german university city with a brilliant academic reputation (e.g. Heidelberg, Freiburg, Göttingen, Tübingen). Also, DAAD scholarship looks good on your CV. Everybody and their dog knows that the DAAD is the real deal.

There's also other sources, from the local states, but they usually give less funding. If Heidelberg/Freiburg/Tübingen sound interesting to you, you can check out the "Baden-Württemberg Stipendium".

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:59:21 2020 No.12491555

>>12491530
that is actually realy good advice. it has never occured to me to write an author. articles are like disembodied things. i sometimes forget that there is a human, whats more, a nerd behind it, who probably wants to talk about what he spends all his time with.
im also kind of multitasking right now, spending a lot of time on molecular cellular biology. genetics might be my focus, but i find it helpfull to have a more complete understanding of what hapens after translation. i hope deviding my attention wont come bite me in my ass

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:00:32 2020 No.12491559 >>12491552 Interesting, thanks for the info anon! I’m entering my final year of undergrad in the fall which consists of an honours project, so it’s probably too late for me to take advantage of that scholarship though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:01:23 2020 No.12491563 >>12490217 >or Fiver Really? I actually hire people for odd ends through Fiverr, but I never thought I could sell any of my data/science services there. Any STEM have experience with getting additional income via Fiverr?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:03:39 2020 No.12491565

>>12491559
Don't chicken out anon, what with the rona, lots of special accommodations could be made for a "struggling" genius such as yourself. Those programs all have contact addresses, you could ask around, they might even be able to point you to someone else if they don't have anything right now that's still open.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:06:00 2020 No.12491569

>>12491555
>i hope deviding my attention wont come bite me in my ass
Staying on track while on multiple tracks is a key skill which you need to develop if you want to go the academic (or more generally management) route. Single-track is for glorified peasants, who might actually make more than you ever will, because they suck big-tech-cock, but are peasants regardless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:08:42 2020 No.12491574 >>12491545 Like? I wanna know job titles specifically. Because I've been told that most CS grads go into investment banking or finance in England

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:58:24 2020 No.12491684 >>12487940 What's this subs opinion on industrial engineering?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 09:27:06 2020 No.12491744 File: 57 KB, 581x525, 1608167541199.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12487940 >tfw when bad at mathematics but want to get a degree in applied maths how do I cope with this

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 09:35:48 2020 No.12491767 >>12491744 >bad at mathematics >applied maths I see no contradiction here. If you're good enough to master basic stats it should be enough for a BSc/MSc degree.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 09:39:56 2020 No.12491782 >>12491684 >this subs Hello dear redditor friend

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 09:40:34 2020 No.12491786

>>12490495
>>12491252
Becoming wealthy as a scientist was never my goal, so I am perfectly fine with my current salary. I (and my family) get full health insurance and I am essentially left alone to research what and when I want. Such a situation might not work for you but does for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 09:44:57 2020 No.12491804 >>12491767 I can do basic statistics but from what I've seen in the curriculum, it's basically >Differential Equations: The Degree I'd never make it anon. I just need to cope

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 09:51:13 2020 No.12491829

>>12491804
Depends on the program I guess... The meme is usually true, though, many applied maths programs are pretty lightweight. If you think you can't make it, you have 2 choices (1) switch before you waste 2 years getting angry and nowhere, (2) stop being a pussy and actually give it a good and enthusiastic shot. I never thought I'd be able to do programming, and now almost half my work is programming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 09:53:35 2020 No.12491837 >>12487940 why not add this to the template? It's actually quite passable for many questions: https://academia.stackexchange.com/

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 10:00:34 2020 No.12491856

>>12491829
>switch before you waste 2 years getting angry and nowhere
I haven't started yet, but I wouldn't know what else to major in. Currently a code monkey btw.
>stop being a pussy and actually give it a good and enthusiastic shot
I'm too scared. I think I'll just stay a human UML-to-Java converter for the rest of my life. Thanks for the advice anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 10:15:18 2020 No.12491892 >>12491856 >I think I'll just stay a human UML-to-Java converter for the rest of my life. Better not tell your boss about the Eclipse Modelling Framework lmao

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 10:53:11 2020 No.12492003

>>12491837
>https://academia.stackexchange.com/
This is what I found:

>Should I include challenges I faced on account of my caste in my diversity statement?
>graduate-admissions graduate-school india diversity discriminationanswered 1 hour ago nick012000 6,601

>What to expect from a postdoc interview for a field rather different from mine?
>mathematics postdocs interviewanswered 2 hours ago Buffy 166k

>Where can I find research papers to read? (not currently in academia)
>publications research-process paper-submission software-papersanswered 2 hours ago zouxiu 11

>Is it allowed to publish an explanation of someone's thesis?
>thesis ethics research-undergraduate copyright repositorymodified 2 hours ago J... 2,686

>A professor I know is becoming head of department, do I send congratulations or condolences?
>professorsanswered 4 hours ago Sneftel 1,150

>How to respond to a possible supervisor asking for a CV I don't have
>graduate-school cvanswered 5 hours ago nick012000 6,601

I'll leave the conclusion to you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 11:09:09 2020 No.12492052 I want to start getting into STEM, any recommendations? I think chemistry is neat but I'm looking for something that makes me the most money.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 11:15:14 2020 No.12492070

>>12492052
Do maths, become a banker.
Any STEM degree would probably get you there though, but maths would be quickest. Graduates from my pharmaceutical science PhD course apparently frequently become bankers.
I would advise against doing an academic subject strictly for the money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 11:35:43 2020 No.12492129 >>12492052 Do maths become a banker. Do CS become a trader. Make money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 12:31:28 2020 No.12492291 >>12492003 Those are just the question titles, though. For a random selection it seems quite passable. Am I missing something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 12:32:25 2020 No.12492292 >>12487940 I want to get into mechanical engineering. Any advice? Is it worth it?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:02:21 2020 No.12492372

Rejected microbiology PhD anon here. Admissions got back to me and said it was because I didn't have enough research experience. That seems like a cop out because I have two years of full time research in the form of a master's in the same field. Whatever they didn't like about my application, I don't think they want to tell me. Maybe my recs were bad, maybe they thought I wouldn't attend if I did get in, maybe I'm a severe sociopath and don't know it. Hopefully I get in to one of the ivy leagues I applied to, but I'm not holding my breath

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:09:34 2020 No.12492394 >>12492372 Did your research result in any publications? First authors?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:12:21 2020 No.12492403 >>12487940 STEM is retarded. Science shouldn't be associated with the others. S and TEM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:30:20 2020 No.12492481 I legitimately want to earn a PhD in nuclear engineering to go into weapons research. Does anyone here know what I need to do to make that happen?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:33:22 2020 No.12492493

>>12492291
>Those are just the question titles, though.
Yes, questions from bizarro-land.
>For a random selection it seems quite passable.
Hahaha
>Am I missing something?
Yes. The advice you get here is far better and 4ch is about discussions which are frowned upon in bizarr..., erm, I mean Wackexchange.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:08:27 2020 No.12492659

>>12492493
I mean ofc it has normies on it if that's what you mean by bizarro-land, but it's not an imageboard. You don't need to scroll through the questions. You ask, and you're done. I've gotten good answers there.

Here are some examples of good questions:

https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/5352/free-open-source-substitutes-for-mendeley

https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/109/is-there-any-efficient-non-linear-note-taking-software

Of course you can't outright ask about the ongoing culture war in which it would be an understatement to say we're on the back foot --- but even there you can get help if you don't call out the phenomenon by name:

https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/116226/i-slept-with-my-advisors-daughter-and-she-is-blackmailing-me-now-what-can-i-do

https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/79693/should-i-have-doubts-if-the-organizers-of-a-workshop-ask-me-to-sign-a-behavior-a

https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/93901/should-a-young-professor-avoid-using-dating-apps

In any case I see no reason to not highlight this for anons. I've already seen some anons asking normie-compatible questions which were a bit too specific to find an expert to answer here...

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:15:38 2020 No.12492689

>>12492481
Weapons research is shrouded in security and mystery. As an academic it's unlikely you'll get in at all, and even if you do, you'll be at the outer edges and kept at arm's length from the juicy stuff (from what I have seen at least). For proper weapons research, particularly nuclear/bio/chem, the way to get in is to first join the defense establishment, earn some decent rank, and then get paid by them to get your degree. That way you're in the hierarchy, dependent, and therefore dependable.

This is btw all conjecturing from colleagues' experiences, which includes people who did nuclear physics, are brilliant and interested, but can't get further than civilian applications, as well as students who were paid by the military and promptly absconded after graduation. I have not gone anywhere near that, and it's unlikely you'll find anybody who has and is willing to go into much detail.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:52:50 2020 No.12492818 Does anyone have experience with Computational science and Engineering. I was thinking of getting a masters in it after finishing my bachelor, but I dont know if it is worthy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:01:37 2020 No.12492846 What mathematics is mostly used in Data Science degrees?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:25:51 2020 No.12492936

In year two of my Chem E degree and honestly no longer interested in shit flowing through pipes. I'm more interested in Organic Chemistry, Biochem, and Genetic Engineering. But as far as a piece of paper goes I know ChemE is worth a lot more. But would this limit my options in Grad School?

My default assumption is no, not really but I wanna hear what others have to say

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:36:54 2020 No.12492983 >>12492846 calc, stats, and linalg mostly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:37:04 2020 No.12492984 >>12491786 >essentially left alone to research what and when I want. what job and how'd you get it? > inb4 networking

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:38:54 2020 No.12492991 >>12492983 nice, i like calculus. i'm thinking about learning some on holidays now that i have more free time. although stats i know very little about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:40:55 2020 No.12493000 >>12492481 Idk but my brother-in-law works with the DOE at a nuclear site and basically said hes researching nuclear lasers.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:02:14 2020 No.12493070

>>12492983
Not the anon you are replying to but I sure hope a bit about error bars and confidence intervals are also part of it. I am unimpressed by the business dudes who predict, say, interest rates of 2.125% with 4 digits where they don't even know the magnitude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:11:24 2020 No.12493100 >>12492984 I'm a conservation ecologist. I got the job by earning my PhD, having a 3 year postdoc, publishing multiple first author papers, and having a technical skill set (quantitative techniques, R coding) that made me ideal for the job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:17:40 2020 No.12493125 >>12493070 any basic stat course should cover that. that being said most of the advanced stuff use bayesian methods instead of frequentist reasoning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:27:47 2020 No.12493155 >>12492394 >first author in masters

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 04:18:57 2020 No.12494933

>>12487940
Anyone here done postgrad study overseas?

I'm undergrad mech eng in Australia, about to graduate next year. I'm keen to live abroad and at some point pursue a masters, so I figured doing both of those things simultaneously would be an interesting experience. Anyone else in the same boat or willing to share their experience?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:45:16 2020 No.12495097 >>12494933 Many years ago I did my PhD in Scotland. In my case English was not my first language but it worked out well. It would probably be easier for you. The main problem is, where can you go in this pandemic?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 05:58:33 2020 No.12495112 >>12491574 Anyone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:02:11 2020 No.12495123 >>12491744 become good at math

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:17:54 2020 No.12495148 >>12495097 You're right, but I'm planning on working for a few years before doing postgrad study. Hopefully overseas travel should be a reality by then. What was your area of study and whereabouts are you from?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:37:49 2020 No.12495175 >>12491684 where do you live?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:52:46 2020 No.12495202 >>12495148 I did solid state physics and I am from somewhere in Scandinavia. Anything more specific would essentially doxx me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 06:58:54 2020 No.12495213 >>12495202 Yeah no stress. What was the rationale behind choosing scotland? How did you find the application process? I don't reckon PhD is for me, but I'd still like to hear about your experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:01:51 2020 No.12495217 >>12492659 >is-there-any-efficient-non-linear-note-taking-software Basedjak tier question.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:11:43 2020 No.12495237 File: 140 KB, 541x938, msu_eng2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MSU. Good for employability, yes or no?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:13:54 2020 No.12495341

>>12495213
Where I come from it is quite normal to go abroad for a few years and I wanted to learn English by living in an English speaking country. And since the US was getting too expensive and my interests were specific I ended up narrowing down the choices until I found one university that fit. The application process was straightforward.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 08:14:51 2020 No.12495344 >>12495237 Are you willing to learn Russian for that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:05:57 2020 No.12495654 >>12495344 I've been meaning to learn it anyway. My mother speaks russian and I speak a slavic language, so it shouldn't be all too difficult.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:08:09 2020 No.12496159 >>12495123 I don't think I can, anon. I'm too old.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:35:01 2020 No.12496272 >>12496159 You are never too old unless you think yourself old. And some do that already in their 20's. I chose to learn Japanese in my 30's. It works.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:13:52 2020 No.12496460

>>12496272
>You are never too old unless you think yourself old. And some do that already in their 20's.
I'm in my 20s and I do think myself too old, indeed. It's a convenient excuse which I will keep using.
>I chose to learn Japanese in my 30's.
That's cool, but learning languages is different, I think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:22:59 2020 No.12496492 >>12496460 >convenient excuse >but this or that is different checks out, you are a mental loser. get a grip

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:26:51 2020 No.12496510 >>12496492 >you are a mental loser agreed. >get a grip tried, can't.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:32:21 2020 No.12496532
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Has anyone ever worked for the government?

I got a CS internship for canada's gov and the work is super slow, but at least it's no stress.

I am considering making my career in it because I know the work-life balance is as good as it can be, and I love working on side-projects and my hobbies outside of work so this seems perfect.

any advice? Am-I retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:34:55 2020 No.12496544 brazilian here pure math or electrical engineering? btw engineering is very saturated here, we even joke that they are uber drivers i wanna move out of this shithole one day

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:36:57 2020 No.12496552 >>12496544 EE is probably better globally, seeing how you want to move anyway.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:38:30 2020 No.12496557

>>12496460
>That's cool, but learning languages is different, I think.
Not really, it is a skill like any other skill and had to be learned, some by memorisation, other parts by understanding.

>>12496532
>Has anyone ever worked for the government?
National lab, sure, as a post doc. Some is slow, others more intense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:39:02 2020 No.12496559 >>12490112 I suspect programming is a more important prerequisite for bioinformatics than biochemistry

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:45:31 2020 No.12496588 >>12496557 >>Has anyone ever worked for the government? >National lab, sure, as a post doc. Some is slow, others more intense. which country? Also, would you be willing to keep working for a national lab if the pay was ok?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:46:16 2020 No.12496589

>>12496552
yeah true, but I would need to do grad school in the first world for a chance to move and i don't know at what point your undergrad matters since i will be doing "research" anyways and side projects. it's just that the math curriculum sounds a lot more interesting than engineering.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:49:49 2020 No.12496598 >>12496544 >i wanna move out of this shithole one day Which country are you considering to invade?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:51:57 2020 No.12496609 >>12496598 probably Japan as they have a scholarship program here and i've been studying their language for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:03:57 2020 No.12496678 >>12496609 that's going to be hard. gl

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:05:08 2020 No.12496682 >>12496678 doubt it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:05:30 2020 No.12496684 >>12496544 Since you're asking, don't go into pure math. It's for geniuses only.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:07:17 2020 No.12496694 >>12496684 not true

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:08:11 2020 No.12496701 >>12496684 Pure math is only for crazy people, not geniuses.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:12:05 2020 No.12496720 >>12496684 this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:16:41 2020 No.12496738 >>12496544 any ideas? has any of you regretted doing what you liked?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:19:29 2020 No.12496748 I am heavily considering a chem PhD and working for the military to do research for them? Does anyone have any suggestions for that or even what field I should enter in chemistry to best accomplish that?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:52:08 2020 No.12496892

>>12496588
>which country?
Norway: that natnl. lab was very sedate.
Japan: the Electrotechnical Laboratory (renamed now) was pretty intense.
>Also, would you be willing to keep working for a national lab if the pay was ok?
Probably, yes. I did consider staying on in Japan

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 16:57:45 2020 No.12496918 >>12496892 engineer?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:39:58 2020 No.12497088 >>12496748 I imagine materials chemistry would be a relevant specialty

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:41:38 2020 No.12497095 >>12496559 This is probably true, but learning program is certainly doable.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:44:49 2020 No.12497101

>>12490108
I decided to do civil engineering. Can’t outsource local jobs to foreigners. Though it’s sometimes regarded as an easier engineering I still find it challenging and rewarding.

Also don’t let this guy BS you. The work life balance is just as terrible at these coding jobs, it’s just that the company is your life.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:46:07 2020 No.12497109

>>12496918
Scientist. Not sure if that makes much of a difference.

>>12496609
>scholarship program
Which level? At some levels you will need nihongonouryokushiken 1.
I was a post doc and could use English though I immediately enrolled in a language course.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:48:17 2020 No.12497369

>>12495341
Cool. I'd love to study in the US but I agree that it is too expensive - I'm probably not competitive enough for scholarships either.
Do you get many international students in the masters and PhD programs in the Scandinavian countries? I hadn't considered northern europe but looking through the uni rankings (not that they mean anything), it looks like there are some good technical schools (e.g. KTH, DTU)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:33:58 2020 No.12497529 Any niche for people with a chemistry bachelors and a chem eng masters? The masters is a conversion course so it's supposedly a bachelors equivalent

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:42:57 2020 No.12497555
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https://english.spbu.ru/education/graduate/master-in-english/90-program-master/2455-advanced-mathematics#:~:text=A%20new%20Master's%20programme%20Advanced,mathematics%20and%20theoretical%20computer%20science.

Thinking of applying for this masters in advanced mathematics. Seems very applicable to quantitative finance. Only issue i would have with it is that Saint Petersburg State University isn't very high ranked. Wondering how much that would affect employability.

What do you guys think of the contents?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:42:17 2020 No.12498025 >>12497555 Looks solid but I thought school brand name was one of the most important factors behind all finance roles, including quantitative. Hope you're good at programming and can score some decent internships

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 05:44:54 2020 No.12498755 >>12496532 Have you considered that the work allocated to interns isn’t exactly representative of the work completed by senior CS employees? Perhaps you wouldn’t have that spare time for hobbies upon being an actual full time employee.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 06:03:11 2020 No.12498777 >>12498755 I saw this post with no context and I would like to remind you that if you don't have time for hobbies outside of work, and if work itself is not satisfying in itself, then life is not worth living.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 06:42:00 2020 No.12498833

>>12497369
>Do you get many international students in the masters and PhD programs in the Scandinavian countries?
My knowledge here is a few years old but last I heard there were many applications from Iran and China. Intelligence agencies are a bit uncomfortable about this.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:00:38 2020 No.12498860
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https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/pg/computing/computing/
How difficult is to get into this program? Will Brexit be beneficial for me in terms of acceptance? Is UCL a good alternative?

t. Third worlder studying CS

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:02:41 2020 No.12498865 >>12498860 Please stay in your shithole, pajeet. We have too many of you in Europe as it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:05:13 2020 No.12498870 >>12498865 I don't mind that you're being racist, but could you at least answer my question?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:11:37 2020 No.12498878 >>12498870 No. Because that could facilitate you coming here, if only in a minor way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:17:37 2020 No.12498886 >>12498860 These courses sound tedious af

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:22:52 2020 No.12498896

>>12498860
>How difficult is to get into this program?
Probably difficult, Imperial College is considered very attractive.
>Will Brexit be beneficial for me in terms of acceptance?
Nobody knows yet. There will most likely be an implosion in the number of EU students but the consequences for students from outside the EU is not yet known.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:27:59 2020 No.12498902 >>12498870 Perhaps the use of >pajeet Was racist, but not wanting you to enter his country is not racist

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:31:49 2020 No.12498909 File: 340 KB, 600x400, E0392658-832D-4433-927D-1F5F9D913B22.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are there any neuroscience anons whom have had any luck breaking into industry?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:33:19 2020 No.12498912 I could study CS.with a math minor or Computer engineering next year. The CS program has real proof based math classes while the CE program is all about applications. Math and physics sound good but employment opportunities are scarce here

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 08:35:13 2020 No.12499009 >>12498886 Which parts do you think are tedious? >>12498896 Thanks anon.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 10:26:15 2020 No.12499270

>>12498865
Imperial is a top tier uni, UCL is maybe a tier below but still very very good. Brexit won't affect you in any positive or negative way in all likelihood. Imperial typically requires very good undergraduate grades for postgraduate courses, very hard to get into, but still apply anyway even if your grades only slightly above average.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 10:30:29 2020 No.12499276 File: 33 KB, 1024x576, grammar-wooflang.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12487940 >>12491470 >>12491333 Should I learn German for STEM? Saw this in another thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 11:04:05 2020 No.12499340 >>12499270 Thanks anon. I have good grades and activities in my undergrad

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 16:01:22 2020 No.12500197 >>12499276 >Learn German for STEM I have never heard such a thing mentioned before. English is a fairly universal language.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 16:03:00 2020 No.12500203 >STEM stop this usa-centrism motherfuckers

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 16:07:43 2020 No.12500232 >>12500203 Is STEM not used outside of North America? How do you refer to the valid undergraduate programs of study w/o naming each of them individually?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:10:31 2020 No.12500537 >>12500203 No fuck off

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:19:07 2020 No.12500565 [DELETED]

>>12487940
Kind of a board question, but bear with me. I'm looking to go back to uni in about 1,5 years. I already have a job and a country-specific qualification, but I want to get a bachelor's, since uni is """free""" ( I.e. tax-funded) in my cunt. So I really wouldn't be doing it for a career. I just want to learn something well which I can do in my free time.
Here's my question: What fields of study require relatively little equipment for research?

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:19:56 2020 No.12500567

>Get full ride scholarship to top 3 uni in Japan
>1200$/month for rent and such, uni is free cus government issued scholarship
>1 year to learn japanese to the uni level, hard as fuck
>get into uni, but instead of going "full" cs I accidentally* got into a EE + CS course
>grandpa died and 1 year of depression because of that made me repeat a year (lost a whole semester going back home)
>Starting april next year, which would be my 4th year, no scholarship and I have to pay for uni
>Currently working my ass off at webdev internship to save money to pay for uni, gonna live for free at gf's house
>2 years of this until I graduate

Currently doubting if I want to go the Master's route. Not necessarily because it would mean better jobs after graduating, but because I am actually interested in learning theoretical CS. Wasted 2 years learning about EE which I dont give a fuck about, and lost a whole year so I didn't learn much.

Basically I want to go another 2 years to masters (no scholarship, working for lab to pay for masters) in order to "recover" the years i've lost and to study areas I'm interested in.

Re-learn CS theory pretty deeply because I love math, finish SICP, learn C properly, and a lot of other things.

Any advice?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:24:33 2020 No.12500587 >>12499009 >Which parts do you think are tedious? C++ sucks Computer Architecture can be a lot of stuff you have to remember

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:25:18 2020 No.12500591 >>12500587 >C++ sucks >t. Rust tranny

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:27:26 2020 No.12500595 >>12500591 I prefer C# and Typescript. But then again, I'm not developing algorithms or other time-critical applications.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:28:01 2020 No.12500598 >>12487940 I dropped out of Pharm and now I'm stuck between going back to uni for Comp.Eng or CS, what to do?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:29:27 2020 No.12500603 >>12500598 How much do you hate yourself and how masochistic are you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:33:23 2020 No.12500617 >>12500603 Not much and just a bit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:35:24 2020 No.12500625 >>12500617 Don't study Comp.Eng. then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:37:26 2020 No.12500632 >>12500625 Would you care to elaborate?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:38:39 2020 No.12500639 >>12500632 no Either trust me or regret it. It's your choice.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:41:56 2020 No.12500652

>>12487940
I’m shit at maths. Developed ptsd because of all the failures during high school. Help me stem-anons. How to get my ass on track and develop discipline (in general not necessarily in maths, because I’m ADHD, the little routines create a big one meme don’t really work) to finally power up my logical skills

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:58:59 2020 No.12500703 What fields of CS can be considered "not memes" (as in: a field that won't be devaluated in the next five years like data science)? I know automation does not seem like a meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:00:00 2020 No.12500706 >>12500639 Ah well, guess I'll just bother and compare curriculum and prospects more deeply, thanks for nothing anon.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:02:00 2020 No.12500717

>>12500652
Develop an interest for a field of studies. I was in a similar situation, but I became interested in a subject and studied in a discipline manner. Blame ADHD, blame your previous failures, but nobody will care. The final product will be either success or failure. The excuse is something you tell people to make yourself feel less responsible for the outcome. There's no magic trick to becoming successful (if there was, everybody would be successful). If you have enough fear of failure, along with desire to succeed then you will be successful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:03:43 2020 No.12500725 >>12500598 >Dropped out of pharm A blessing in disguise. I will never understand the desire to be a glorified pill counter. I am fascinated by pharmakinetics, but the service role is terribly uninteresting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:11:10 2020 No.12500749 >>12500725 Curriculum and research seemed very interesting, the job prospects are just quite awful. Glad I quit it before I wasted more time in it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:17:24 2020 No.12500777 >>12500749 You could always formally study chemistry instead, whilst self-studying pharmaceutical science, and then pursue a graduate degree in something Pharma related

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:19:44 2020 No.12500785 >>12500777 That's a good idea, anon, but I'm leaning more towards CE and CS(which I'm more into) at the moment. I'll sit on it a bit.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:41:14 2020 No.12500833

>>12497555
Depends whether you want to stay in Russia or not. SPbGU is highly respected in Russia. The low ranking is because they don't publish that well in international journals for most sciences. Not sure about math, but it could be that they are more reputable internationally as well for math specifically.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:44:44 2020 No.12500838

>>12499276
German is a great language for science, but nobody uses it any more, since most German research has been assimilated into the western sphere.

I'd say for the purposes of getting ahead in academia it's a waste of time. If you want to move and do research in Germany, Austria, or German-speaking Switzerland, it would be a good idea to learn it, but just for networking and establishing social contacts, and not for the actual research.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:50:04 2020 No.12500851
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I want to get into Photonics but apparently you need a masters in it to do anything worthwhile and hardly anywhere offers a photonics bachelors
What would be a good undergrad for it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:16:36 2020 No.12501067 >>12500703 What is it about data science that will become devalued in the near future? I’ve heard that before but I don’t understand why that would be the case

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:24:03 2020 No.12501101

>>12492481
Join the Navy and ride the nuke program for 6 years, get out, then cruise through your bachelors and your masters on the GI Bill.

A military background with strong performance and all your clearances intact will get your foot in the door. I was offered a research job as a mech engineer to help design the next generation of explosive lenses but really, weapons guys are a special breed. Maybe it was the fact that the guy trying to recruit me looked like someone who’d play Death in an apocalypse movie.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:27:22 2020 No.12501107

>>12491563
I’m the guy you responded to, and yes, fiver is legit. Most things needing an engineers stamp are rinky dink bullshit like HVAC loading calcs or a back flow preventer for an apartment building. Stuff any undergrad student could knock out in an hour.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:28:23 2020 No.12501113 >>12500851 EE or Physics. I’d suggest EE.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:34:31 2020 No.12501128 >>12501113 Could CpE work too or is that lacking too much?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:36:06 2020 No.12501136 >>12501128 IDK too much about the CpE curriculum to comment. Strong fundamentals in EM fields and quantum mechanics are necessary, if CpE has that then go for it.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:37:10 2020 No.12501140

I'm in my early 30s and currently in school for a second bachelors in CS. I currently work full time but want to quit to finish off my last year of the program so I can get it finished quicker and out into the job market. It's an online program and my current job is in the financial sector so I think I could be facing a challenge re-branding myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:41:25 2020 No.12501155 >>12501140 Not at all. Having a finance background just shows you know how to keep the bottom line as a priority. No company is going to count that against you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:25:36 2020 No.12501292 >>12491786 Seems like a dope setup anon. May I ask what you're currently researching and what a day in the life would be like?

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:00:54 2020 No.12501390

>>12501292
I'm broadly interested in species' niches, so I do a lot of habitat suitability and species distribution modeling for freshwater species of conservation concern. A usual day involves reading a paper or two, writing R code for whatever analysis or model I'm working on, processing results or code from previous work, writing up results for publication or reporting purposes, generating presentations or reports for stakeholders, or trying to finish up work from my postdoc or other collaborations.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 23:05:26 2020 No.12501538

>>12501067
If I remember correctly the current propraganda is that it is the job of the future, and that it'll have endless jobs on several industries. It is a meme because it is a lie by the big data industry, the only one that actually uses data science, to incentivate more people to enter the industry. Automation is different because several industries use it, from building car and robots to replacing retail sellers, and there's not many propaganda to put more people in the field. I could be wrong, tho.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 08:47:33 2020 No.12502842 >>12501107 I imagine those fiver tasks are people offloading their academic assignments/actual jobs onto 3rd worlders, as opposed to actual employers contracting people for task completion

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 10:08:58 2020 No.12502999 Opinion on German unis for masters (specifically for CS)? Most have no tuition fee or extremely low tuition fees (300 euros to at most 1.5k per semester). This seems to good to be true. Why the fuck people pay $35K a year on UK or US.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 10:20:45 2020 No.12503019 >>12502999 CS undergrad student from the KIT here. The uni is apparently well regarded in the job market. It will cost you about 500€ per semester as a foreigner I believe. It's a very theoretical course but you'll still have to program.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 11:45:03 2020 No.12503222 >>12487940 As a developer how can I transition to bioinformatics? I have no publications or recommendations from a professor. Would contributing to bioinformatic software the best option?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 11:54:25 2020 No.12503249 >>12503222 What is your current education level? Are you a self-trained developer, or do you have a BSc in CS?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 14:20:16 2020 No.12503654 >>12503222 0 bioinformatics and biology experience is required. Professors will still pick you over people like me. They love raw programmers

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 15:29:06 2020 No.12503866 >>12503654 This. It is often much easier to teach somebody with a CS background the immediately pertinent information relating to biology than it is to teach the typical brainlet biology student how to program.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 16:07:46 2020 No.12504000 >>12503249 self-trained but working towards a cheap associates degree though. However classes are too basic and boring as hell. >>12503654 >>12503866 I see. Thank you for the encouragement friends. Better get to knocking some doors I guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 16:41:59 2020 No.12504127 What job can my major "Nuclear and Risk Engineering" gave me, in a place without any nuclear plant?

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 19:53:28 2020 No.12504735
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I dropped out of engineering 2 years ago because I was dealing with family issues, depression, and wasn't studying effectively anymore.
I've been doing self directed study in math etc while working and saving up for a course. However I've been wondering whether I should switch my focus towards programming and software engineering, or continue to apply myself towards engineering. Or combine the two somehow, e.g. do either but learn programming anyways.
Also, I have a metric shit ton of textbooks, but only one for computer science. What should I get?
Thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 20:44:24 2020 No.12504920 >>12487976 >2nd bachelor's degree instead of OMSCS u w0t m8?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 21:49:20 2020 No.12505063 >>12504735 Do whichever you’re more passionate over. Ideally you will attend university that has workterms integrated into their CS/engineering program. It never hurts to have some programming in your repertoire.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 22:11:46 2020 No.12505094 >>12504735 Read the books you have all the way through (not just assigned chapters) before you buy new ones

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 22:21:06 2020 No.12505114 >>12505094 >buying books Kek

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 02:52:00 2020 No.12505698
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>>12487940
My goal is to create a startup but I'm struggling picking between

>Physics (first principles thinking, the possibility of making cutting edge technology)

>Engineering (good employability after graduation and none of that useless string theory and astrophysics shit)

Also would a CS, economics or business minor help with this or should I self teach myself these subjects

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 04:12:24 2020 No.12505842

Hold on. So if I'm understanding this correctly: You can just start writing a review about whatever with no data of your own whatsoever, send it somewhere with the proper formatting and stuff, then get it published? Even if you're a literal who undergrad?
t. 3rd year biofag

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 05:26:33 2020 No.12505943 I'll be (probably) graduating in General Math in summer 2021. should I go for a masters or are there any jobs I can do straight of the bat (I'm in Europe btw)

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 05:45:07 2020 No.12505978
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>>12487940
I'm stuck in a dead-end code monkey job which I can't quit right now. I'm looking to get a degree in a STEM field that isn't to math-heavy, so I can escape this living nightmare. Any reccs?

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 05:48:16 2020 No.12505985

>>12504735
>should I switch my focus towards programming and software engineering
Don't to it anon, you'll regret it for the rest of your life. Software development is the new meme occupation. It's filled with retarded normies who know nothing, and the work is actually really mundane. The memes about CS are 100% correct

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 05:50:22 2020 No.12505987 How much math and physics should I already know before starting MechE undergrad?

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 06:31:04 2020 No.12506064
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>>12505063
Thanks for the advice, I will take course content into account. I'll be attending this small college very close to home which I should have done in the first place.
True, I saw the usefulness and legacy of C, VB, and spice
>>12505094
>>12505114
Good advice, thanks. Downloading stuff is rad, just gets old looking at a screen all the time I guess just for simple studying.
>>12505985
Oh shit...I guess I'll focus more on the scientific aspect rather than pure programming. Thanks for your insight

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 11:31:08 2020 No.12506779

>>12505987
The more mathematical understanding the better of course, and it depends on what school you attend. Some more prestigious schools might operate on the assumption that students have taken calculous in high school, whilst some engineering schools might teach calculus 1 - 3 courses in the first year. Physics often operates the same. My school requires physics gen. 1 & 2 in the first year, but others might operate on the assumption that you have taken AP courses in high school.
It's not hard for you to see the curriculum for a school of interest online.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 12:09:57 2020 No.12506903 >>12505978 >no math heavy I'm quite ignorant on the job market in your country (at least in mine is total crap). Perhaps a technical skill like for instance nursing or farming?

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 12:13:59 2020 No.12506911
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>>12505698
go EE with an Applied Physics focus.
You get the best of both worlds in that scenario and can still segway into physics research, publish, and called yourself a "physicist" while still having an industry relevant skill-set.

Also don't be a stoodier and networking / talk to people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 12:33:20 2020 No.12506948 >>12490358 I don't know where you live or what engineering you mean, but I took a part time programming job and it was infinitely more stressful than any of the engineering jobs I worked with way worse pay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 16:33:21 2020 No.12507463 What's the comfiest engineering field career-wise, in your opinion?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 18:50:04 2020 No.12507843 >>12506948 Australia, mechanical/systems engineering for medical devices. Both teams get floored constantly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 18:57:40 2020 No.12507866 im EE undergrad. i want to make a bunch of money doing R&D based work. is a PhD right for me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 18:59:29 2020 No.12507874 >>12507463 Industrial Engineering

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 19:06:04 2020 No.12507901 >>12507866 ok im willing to compromise on the money part

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 22:44:14 2020 No.12508415 First /sci/ post, there seems to be better advice here than on the other boards. I want to work on drones, automation, or 3d printing. I don't want to learn to code. What field is best and what degree should I pursue?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 00:05:53 2020 No.12508579 >>12487940 Incel general

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 00:57:22 2020 No.12508683

>hi /sci/
I'm looking for advice, mainly from PhDs (and current grad students) about the best path towards an industry career in some sort of computational R&D role. I am explicitly uninterested in an academic career.

>be me
>have a B.S.E. in Chemical Engineering from a top-5 undergraduate ChemE program (in the U.S.).
>recently applied to a programs in Computational Materials Science for a PhD beginning Fall 2021.
>16 different schools, all top-50-ranked for graduate-level materials science
>think I have a pretty solid chance of being accepted to at least 2 schools
>no idea where I'm gonna go
Obviously I need to wait and see where I get in. But once I know where I've been accepted, how do I decide which school to join? What will be the most important factors predictive of future success, assuming that I want to pursue an industry career after grad school?
Does it all come down to institutional prestige? How should I evaluate cases where a few professors in the department are excellent but most are mediocre?
>thank u sci, i love you bastards

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 01:00:20 2020 No.12508690

>>12508683
And as a follow-up to this: Would it ever be a good decision to turn down all acceptances and re-apply to different programs next year (perhaps in Chemical Engineering or Computer Science)?
I don't know much about the full extent of computational scientific research, and I fear that by restricting myself to the domain of MatSci I may be missing out on something even more fitting for my interests and goals

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 04:12:42 2020 No.12508996

I am interested in any feed back on a position statement that I Read from ASEE. Basically they want they engineering laws changed to allow graduates from ETAC/ABET programs to be treated identically to EAC/ABET grads when it comes to work experience and education requirements regarding eligibility for the FE and PE exams and licenses. I am asking because I know that an EAC/ABET grad equals an engineer, but I have no familiarity with what ETAC/ABET is. All that I know about ETAC is that an ETAC degree is called engineering technology, which sounds similar to automotive technology or medical technology, and those fields equal a technician. The lik to the statement is below.

>https://www.asee.org/documents/about-us/the-organization/public-policy/ASEE_proposed_position_statement_BS_ET_and_PEs_2020.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 05:38:18 2020 No.12509184 >>12508415 All of those things involve coding bro. Just learn it's not that hard

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:08:17 2020 No.12509744 >>12508415 Why the refusal to learn programming? Do you only have an interest in CAD or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:18:27 2020 No.12509765 >>12488488 You would be better off doing a masters in stats while self-teaching, and then maybe doing a bootcamp if your github still isn't up to par at that point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:25:13 2020 No.12509781 >>12508579 What do you mean? My uni is right next to a brothel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:26:06 2020 No.12509783 >>12500652 Get medicated, and then get a routine

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:27:38 2020 No.12509785 >>12509184 what's the best way to learn how to code in a short period of time for free

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:27:44 2020 No.12509786 >>1250074 Is that true for a PharmD as well? I'm seeing quite a few AI-based drug development roles at drug companies which are accepting PharmDs

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:29:20 2020 No.12509790 >>12500851 Physics, and there are a few unis which have a bachelors in it. Try to get your BS from a place with a well-known photonics program, that way you can get some research and your recommenders' names might ring an adcom member's bell

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:32:12 2020 No.12509798 >>12504000 Ask a professor if they would be willing to proctor a challenge exam for an upcoming course, then forward the email of them saying "yes" to the registrar. Also see if they accept CLEP exams from current students.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:35:53 2020 No.12509808

>>12508690
PhDs usually aren't going to force you to do things that are explicitly core MatSci; you should put more energy into who your potential advisors might be. How do they see translational/cross-field research? Do they expect students to start publishing immediately, or are they okay with them taking time to explore the field?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:36:36 2020 No.12509809 >>12509785 work through a long ass book for the programming language you will most likely be using in your job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:38:13 2020 No.12509817 Is robotics engineering a legit speciality vs some other engineering? I'm a software dev and want to create a robotics startup/company sometime in the future, should I get a second degree or should I just learn robotics as a hobby?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:39:11 2020 No.12509819 >>12509817 Take a second major in EE. Build Gundam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:42:07 2020 No.12509829 >>12509819 Not him, but I'm actually learning robotics to build a big ass robot using my knowledge as an electrical engineer on power systems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:45:17 2020 No.12509845 >>12509829 good luck

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:50:51 2020 No.12509866

Hi, I'm a physics major dropout (dropped because physics jobs are not valued in my country) planning to go back to college majoring in an engineering.
What engineering fields have the most success rates at finding R&D positions.
If there isn't any, what's the engineering with highest chance of growing in the next years or decades?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:05:24 2020 No.12509902 >>12509744 I am reluctant to learn programming because I hear that it’s a meme and I don’t think I could compete with the pajeets. It seems that if I don’t really specialize in one area I will become a a jack of all trades and master of none

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:23:51 2020 No.12509950 >>12509819 so are you saying that ee+se = robotics? I mean what even is robotics?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:28:13 2020 No.12509963 >>12509902 Some of the best science is done when you take two disparate fields and mesh them together.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:31:09 2020 No.12509978

>>12509902
I am in the process of learning my first language now (python). As far as I am concerned, learning to program is akin to learning a skill like reading as a child. You aren't learning it for the explicit purpose to be an author/code monkey, but rather, to be capable of a myriad of things (automating simple tasks, mass data analysis, small unique projects, etc). I think it is worth learning.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:33:23 2020 No.12509984

>>12487940
I want to go back to get a masters in either CS or ECE. I can't decide which. I currently have a BS in CS.
CS
>I already know more about it
>I like it a lot but my fear is:
>...it's over saturated with people and credential-free online learning as competition
>maybe not worth the money
ECE
>not strong in this field
>seems to have fewer people
>growing need for hardware skills
>not even sure I like the more electrical side involving circuit physics, light, and electricity.
Is my analysis correct? Any opinion on choice of masters?

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:41:58 2020 No.12510005

>>12509978
>>12509963
Ok I’m convinced. I’ve heard this advice enough times now. I’ll learn to code. Now I just need to figure out what language. You guys have helped me enough but if anyone knows a good one for 3D printing, drones, and maybe finance that I could get started on that’d be great. Thanks

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:23:40 2020 No.12510118

>>12510005
I guess you can use CAD software for 3D printing, that should work good enough, but that's not my expertise. As for the other stuff, C/C++ could work for drones, while R/Python can work with finance. Then again, you have to keep in mind that languages are just tools, you need to know how to use them and what their are good for; there's not such a thing a language good for everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:47:50 2020 No.12510531 A question. Do you guys know where I can find a good robotics and modern robotics course out there? I am just using the Coursera one but I want to find something else if these courses are lacking on Coursera

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 18:17:27 2020 No.12511239 >>12510005 Unironically CS50x. It's like being spoonfed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 23:11:53 2020 No.12511940 Thoughts on GradCafe? The achievements listed by the people getting accepted in top unis makes me really nervous. I don't think I can make it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 04:13:05 2020 No.12512538 >>12511940 It’s the first that I’ve heard of Gradcafe (current UG). Top schools selecting top students isn’t quite a surprise, but there could be some sort of self-selection bias in the type of people who post on Gradcafe. Keep grinding, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 04:19:09 2020 No.12512556 Looking for good masters programs in CFD/Aerodynamics or flight control. Any suggestions? Europe/US.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 05:26:06 2020 No.12512713 >>12510005 start with python then learn another language when you feel you need something more powerful ignore c memers

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 08:45:16 2020 No.12513166 >>12512538 I understand that. But it feels like my grind is worth nothing. Even the candidates accepted at second tier unis have much better achievements than me. I'm losing hope.

>>	mech e Sun Dec 27 08:50:15 2020 No.12513177 >>12487940 where are the fucking j o b s

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 09:16:04 2020 No.12513231

>>12513166
Studying at a prestigious university is great, but there's nothing wrong with studying at a lower ranked school if you find a compatible PI. Are you applying for a masters or PhD? If the former, you could always try applying to a prestigious PhD program upon completion of your masters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 09:26:33 2020 No.12513260 >>12510005 Python, don't get memed into stupid /g/ shit. These guy have never written a line of code for money

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 10:32:12 2020 No.12513418

>>12504920
My first degree was in business but for the hell of it I also took all the calculus courses offered. I had no prior programming experience so I thought a second degree would be better than a masters. The GA Tech online masters seems kind of scammy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 10:35:55 2020 No.12513435 >>12509765 I like stats and have slightly more inclination to do that but my concern is the job market is much more limited compared to CS/programming and the pay would roughly be equal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 10:37:48 2020 No.12513440 >>12513231 Looking to apply for a master's. Currently in my undergrad

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 12:15:45 2020 No.12513735

>>12513440
My input is largely dependant on your goals, but if you're eventually pursuing a PhD then don't worry about the prestige of your masters too much. A very productive period during your masters research at a mid tier institution could open the window to a top tier institution which currently isn't possible. In any case, you can certainly still be successful in your endeavours without the brand name recognition of your university.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 18:23:45 2020 No.12514661 >>12511239 I began watching this lecture series today. I began as a CS brainlet and I have already learned a lot. Thanks, anon!

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 18:45:06 2020 No.12514736
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I want to get a degree in engineering so I can design my own products, is this a retarded idea? I always have so many ideas for things but I lack the knowledge to design them.

I was told being an engineer nowadays won't get you much here and its just best to become a programmer. I like programming too but I will feel like im missing out on my dream if im not designing and making physical things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 19:03:18 2020 No.12514821 >>12514736 Just hire everyone you need. You'll never be able to do things yourself. At least that's what it's like for my 110 IQ ass with a bachelors degree

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 19:04:44 2020 No.12514828 >>12513887 # Can any grads/postboomers help me with this? It's classified as a statement of purpose btw, can't remember if I mentioned in original post.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 19:11:04 2020 No.12514847 File: 108 KB, 614x1024, DE9244BE-FB93-4E26-A441-E05BD4804F28.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just moved to farm engineering. I’m quite scared of engi math. Is there any good ressources to prepare?

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 19:18:16 2020 No.12514865

>>12514847
Theres plenty of free textbooks online, as well as nearly infinite YouTube videos covering topics. Identify the curriculum of your university's engineering program, determine what gaps of personal knowledge you would like to fill in, and begin self-studying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 27 19:22:40 2020 No.12514884 >>12514821 But I hate dealing with people for the most part, I want to be independent as possible.

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 19:26:16 2020 No.12514893

>>12514736
Engineering is a great vocational bachelors degree that can yield a comfortable income upon graduating and also provide great insight for problem solving in everyday life.
>I always have so many ideas for things but I lack the knowledge to design them.
This sounds a little bit like the brainlet who always talks about being le epic entrepreneur (it's okay, this was me when I was 19). In any case, obtaining capital through a lucrative career (engineering/CS) and the applicable skills from either major will contribute to your ability to create products. Perhaps see if the prospective school you wish to study engineering at also has an entrepreneurial program. My institution has an 'incubator' for student business ideas/products. They basically provide free consulting, funding, and assistance for creating businesses. In fact, a tech startup that originated from the incubator was sold for hundreds of millions of dollars earlier this year.

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 19:33:13 2020 No.12514913

>>12514893
>This sounds a little bit like the brainlet who always talks about being le epic entrepreneur
This is true, but I am older so I have less of an excuse. Did you give up on this idea? Also what engineering degree would you recommend? At the moment I was told to go in general engineering until I figure out what exactly I want. I am split between robotics, mechatronics, mechanical, and CS. Also I'm personally a huge brainlet, or atleast I feel that way, and unsure what minor I should get, if any. My current school doesn't have any programs like that to help students.

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 19:57:49 2020 No.12514995

>>12514913
My business idea wasn’t especially serious, but it’s what I would tell people. I wasn’t very interested in academics at the time and had athletics as a primary interest, so wanted to create some sort of elite athlete training facility. That is no-longer an interest of mine - I have since developed a serious interest in academics following a career ending futbol injury.
The choice of engineering program is very dependent on your interest/goals. I suggest doing some independent research regarding the engineering/CS programs and career prospects, and then make an informed decision.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 00:52:12 2020 No.12515481 >>12513735 I do not plan to pursue a PhD. But thank you for your advice.

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 01:28:53 2020 No.12515557
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Not sure if best place to post.

I'm an aussie looking to upskill my mathematics. I've always been crappy with maths, what's the cheapest way to get started. Anyone know if a certificate in maths exists or should I just do a course era or some shit?

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 01:36:29 2020 No.12515564

I'm starting a MSc. in CS, and I want to work in machine learning and data science research/academia, problem is:

Machine learning is so fucking overhyped and we're at a point of diminishing returns

Neural networks are a joke right now, sure it's really powerful and everything, but, IT'S TOO HIGH-LEVEL
I don't think we're heading towards any new breakthroughs or innovations in that field any time soon, the only solution would be to "reset" and start fresh

I've been recently thinking about something physics-related, maybe quantum computing (yes meme name), but the field is at a really early stage, maybe I could get a breakthrough while I'm in mid/late life

Any thoughts on what to do?, I basically want to have a scientific legacy in my name.u

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 01:40:05 2020 No.12515573

>>12515564
I should elaborate:
I like statistics, math, and physics, and that's what I want to work in combined with CS. I don't have a strong foundation of math/physics though, but I don't mind spending a few extra years in the process to learn.

Also, I'd really like to get a PhD to get a university teaching job (Yes, I know the pay is shit, but I like teaching)

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 01:50:37 2020 No.12515594

>>12515564
>>12515573
If you were wanting a CS job then ML is super useful to have. You may say it's overhyped but the demand from employers far outweighs the supply of graduates. Putting all the ML algorithms into practice in enterprise environments is still in the early stages of real-world implementations.

However if you are wanting to remain in academia then yeah quantum computing could be a better choice. The future scope and potential is certainly there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 02:01:22 2020 No.12515607 Is epidemiology a STEM career?

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 03:29:22 2020 No.12515741

>>12515564
>IT'S TOO HIGH-LEVEL
>I basically want to have a scientific legacy in my name.
I don't think it's a good idea to cherrypick a career regarding their ability to generate breakthroughs. Breakthroughs are that, difficult to predict and to achieve. Choose a career you really love and that you are recognized to be competent doing it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 03:36:26 2020 No.12515751

>>12515594
I want to remain in academia the rest of my life, so I guess yeah, maybe picking an early field would be better
I'm good in machine learning though, already wrote some papers in it, working a data science job now, already have statistical knowledge

>>12515741
That's definitely true, but, I'm just giving a rough prediction based on my current knowledge of the field

I guess what I'm looking for is something super theoretical and still in its early days, but I don't think I'll even find any professors to work on that nor quantum computing too, they're both very niche...

Idk guys...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 04:15:57 2020 No.12515823 Is an engineering masters better than a double major bchelors with physics/cs/business?

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 04:23:06 2020 No.12515839

I want to get out of this third world shithole(Philippines), but I love doing math. Is it possible to keep it as a hobby while holding down a shitty software or web monkey job? I only need 3 years of professional experience here before I can fuck off to another country. What's a good first world country for someone like me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 05:22:05 2020 No.12515964 >>12515839 Do a Master's abroad with funding?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 08:23:52 2020 No.12516346 >>12515823 There is no answer to that question without a myriad of background information. You’re asking as if we somehow have insight into your goals/interests/capabilities/etc. This is actually what young children and most autistic people do.

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 09:41:20 2020 No.12516471
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>>12516346
My mistake, I should have reworded that better.

My school has a program that lets me do a straight undergrad + a fast tracked masters for 1 instead of 2 years given that I keep my GPA above a certain level. However, im also interested in double majoring in CS for the same duration in case I didnt make it through the required avg GPA.

What are the implications for a career in industry of a double major as opposed to a single major+masters (higher employability? Starting salary? Flexibility to switch careers?)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 09:56:53 2020 No.12516513 >>12515964 And how to obtain funding?

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 10:12:32 2020 No.12516542

I am in my physics bachelor, hopefully done in July (the lockdown has affected my motivation).
I've been doing well so far, passed all my exams in the first try, never failed a class but my grades are at an average of 2.0 (1 being best, 4 being the minimum to pass).

So far I have enjoyed the most QM and Q Info. I'll be picking Particle physics in my last semester. Are those fields viable to make a career in? Obviously I'll narrow it down eventually...

One alternative would be computational physics, my uni specialized at that, but I don't feel like working in front of computer all my life, even though I feel I am kind of gifted in coding, in that sense it would be a wise choice.
I just don't want to depart from physics. On the other hand I'm not particularly talented in what I'm doing, just competent I guess.

So my question is, if there is plenty potential to work in those fields (for sure in quantum computing)? by how much does getting my masters degree with good grades improve my chances for a PhD in on of Europes top 30 unis? (excluding UK)

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 10:23:47 2020 No.12516562

>>12516471
If your goal is entering industry, obtaining the masters degree is effectively equivalent to having a bachelors degree w/ a few years of work experience. It won't necessarily raise the potential earnings in the way that a PhD would, but it will make the process of breaking into the workforce much easier.
The comparison of earning the masters in engineering versus the double major in CS+Physics is difficult because it's still dependant on things where you live, the branch of engineering, networking opportunities, etc. I am not studying in either of the fields mentioned, but CS and engineering in general will avail opportunities if you apply yourself.

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 12:09:24 2020 No.12516920

>>12508996
NO. These are just technician programs with an extra 2 years on them pretending to be stem majors on par with engineering. Their entire statement proves this because the whole point they make is "think of all the precious joggers in our programs the couldn't into engineering if you don't treat them the same, there won't be any black engineers". It sucks but lots of people are filtered by the stem fields, and its not fair to those people that did almost kill themselves for an engineering or science degree to then have to deal with a bunch of spoiled tech school students.
tl;dr No they should not be licensed or employed as engineers that would be like allowing nursing students to be employed as surgeons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 18:01:59 2020 No.12518061 >>12516513 Specific programs at universities will offer a stipend/scholarships/TAship opportunities based on your application. Most programs will supply at least some funding if you have a reasonably adequate application.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 19:23:18 2020 No.12518428 >>12508996 Stop shitting up threads with your stupid et degree bitching no one gives a fuck that you failed at uni and can't hack it out of a meme degree.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 19:34:05 2020 No.12518459 >>12491484 >Begging jannies you bring shame upon your family name

Anonymous Mon Dec 28 19:36:54 2020 No.12518469

>>12514661
You're welcome. It's a good first step.

>>12515557
Have a look into university affiliated TAFE courses or uni bridging courses. Most unis will offer them and they go for about a year. Typically they are pretty cheap and might be covered by HECS, and if you do well they offer a direct entry into an undergrad degree if it turns out you want to go down that path.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 19:47:28 2020 No.12518507 >>12491484 the reason why these threads get yeeted is because of fucktards like >>12508996 constantly shitting them up with their psuedo STEM BS. If the jannies would just start range banning these dickheads then we wouldn't have any more problems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 21:37:15 2020 No.12518921 >>12499276 You should because they have cheap degrees like the one in Hagen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 21:54:37 2020 No.12518979 >>12507866 >>12507901 bump desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 21:56:01 2020 No.12518981 >>12516562 Thanks anon, Im currently studying mechatronics in aus and willing to move out of the country if need be. I heard from my older peers that a PhD to Msc doesnt really make a sig difference in payraise compared to say a Masters and bachelors

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 23:12:52 2020 No.12519138 Hi frens how do I get an internship as a quant. analyst at a hedge fund

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 03:01:06 2020 No.12519564 >>12487940 Is a math minor good enough for a STEM job is my degree is non stem or will I need to go back to grad school? These are the math courses Cal 1-3, Linear, Real Analysis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 07:04:49 2020 No.12520242 >>12519138 Bump

Anonymous Tue Dec 29 07:41:48 2020 No.12520330

>>12487940
I waste a lot of time watching history and philosophy youtube/bitchute videos, but that's not my field. I'd like to use that time to watch stuff that's more relevant to what I study.
Any recommendations for good natural science (preferably neuroscience) channels which are not dealing with the basics but with current research? Bonus points if they're on bitchute in particular since I want to use a less pozzed platform.

Anonymous Tue Dec 29 08:21:19 2020 No.12520453

>>12520330
I would also be interested in neuroscience designated channels that explore current topics and cutting edge research. Lex Fridman has had multiple neuroscientists on his podcasts and as has Joe Rogan, in case you’re interested in viewing those episodes.
>wasting time watching history content
Is that wasted time? Accruing any information that makes you a more well-rounded person isn’t wasteful in my eyes. History is quite important. If you had described your time being used to watch vapid nonsense (e.g. vloggers), then I would certainly agree with you per “wasted time”.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 08:24:21 2020 No.12520465 >>12519564 What is your major?

Anonymous Tue Dec 29 08:54:31 2020 No.12520546

>>12520453
>Accruing any information that makes you a more well-rounded person isn’t wasteful in my eyes.
I'm trying to take a more self-critical view on how I spend my time. Sure, it makes me a more well-rounded person, but that's more of a a side-effect, in all honesty it's mainly entertainment at this point. And while the fact that intellectual pursuits entertain me says good things about me, it does not in and of itself get me ahead. If I keep at this I'll end up out-competed by people who stay more on topic and as some eternal and well-rounded postdoc resenting that the world doesn't appreciate him for all his qualities. Not the best outcome imho.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 09:08:38 2020 No.12520590 >>12520587 NEW THREAD >>12520587 NEW THREAD >>12520587 NEW THREAD

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