/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12463404]

Why are bugs so nutritious?

[Anonymous No.12463409]

>>12463404
>superfood

[Anonymous No.12463434]

>>12463404
I will not eat the bugs.

[Anonymous No.12463441]

>>12463434
Why?

[Anonymous No.12463442]

>>12463434
YOU WILL EAT THE BUGS
YOU WILL LIVE IN A POD
YOU WILL OWN NOTHING
YOU WILL BE HAPPY

[Anonymous No.12463483]

I once suggested in a forum that if we want to save the world, we need to accept a diet of bugs because it is unironically has the highest protein efficiency, lowest methane waste, and cheapest per pound.

The thread was maxed out with each of my post receiving over 100 negative votes.
Every. Single. One

The sheer anal clench that unfolded as I post one scientific article after another shook the foundations of reality and let loose the hellfire of pure buttblasted energy

[Anonymous No.12463492]

>>12463409
>>12463434
>>12463442
It's just bugs, duffus.
80% of the world eats it

Meat corporations are the biggest source of methane gas which is 7x the worse than CFCs

[Anonymous No.12463498]

>>12463483
>if we want to save the world
how about instead of cramming more retard babbies on every last bit of livable land so that we all need to subsist on a diet of bugs we stop pumping out these retard babbies instead? there is a much better way to "save the planet" than eat the bugs.

[Anonymous No.12463505]

>>12463492
nope, dipshit. wetlands are the biggest source of ch3. we should pave over those first.

[Anonymous No.12463517]

>>12463498
Why don't you just eat it, you pussy?
Dry it, grind it, mold it, fry it

Sell it as "Buggers"
White People are the pussies of the pussies

[Anonymous No.12463520]

>>12463517
how about you stop being such a retard and learn to plan out your life better so you don't have to life off a diet of bugs instead?

[Anonymous No.12463523]

>>12463505
Your own post divided the natural source of ch3 vs the manmade ones.

[Anonymous No.12463525]

>>12463404
I’m honestly starting to wonder if there is some untranslated passage of the Talmud or the Zohar that says something like “when goyim eat the bugs and all manner of crawling things, you will know the advent of the messiah draws near!” The elites are way too obsessed in making the slaves eat roaches as a rite of humiliation and abuse. They’re too singularity fixated on that one form of abuse for it to just be some “muh climate” thing.

[Anonymous No.12463528]

>>12463520
That's the exact posts I received
All I said was bugs are edible and good

The whitey goes full assblast over the idea as if I kicked a baby or something

[Anonymous No.12463532]

>>12463525
No. But there are a LOT of scientific studies promoting the idea that bugs are healthier than red meat.

Suit yourself

[Anonymous No.12463537]

>>12463528

[Anonymous No.12463543]

>>12463537
Sorry, I'm Asian.
Don't care about your politics.

[Anonymous No.12463545]

>>12463543
whatever you are, you're a retard.

[Anonymous No.12463549]

>>12463545
Wanna read the papers supporting my claim?

[Anonymous No.12463551]

>>12463483
>reddit is the foundation of reality
lmao
99% they did it because you were being a spastic about it.

[Anonymous No.12463554]

>>12463551
I don't go to reddit.

[Anonymous No.12463559]

>>12463404
Remember that cockroach milk only comes from the males. It is not actual milk. Cockroaches don't have mammaries, they aren't mammals.

Cockroach milk is literal cock milk. The 'milk crystals' is just a nice name for smegma.

[Anonymous No.12463561]

>>12463549
no, because it's not a matter of it being healthier than red meat. red meat is not meant to be eaten daily but is a luxury that is enjoyed on occasion. i don't care to eat bugs as i prefer chicken for my source of protein. the point is if you really want to "save the planet" the real problem is the number of people not the luxuries. it's more important to have a good quality of life than to cram more people.

[Anonymous No.12463567]

>>12463561
Not an excuse not to eat cheaper and healthier food source

[Anonymous No.12463574]

>>12463567
you are a fucking retard. i don't need an excuse. i can buy and i will. i prefer the taste of chicken and you can bitch and moan about it all you want.

[Anonymous No.12463576]

>>12463567
also insects aren't healthier than chicken. maybe more nutrient dense but that does not equate to healthier.

[Anonymous No.12463580]

>>12463574
It's cool.
I am just flexing my superior diet that has more protein, less fat, and cheaper by a mile

[Anonymous No.12463583]

>>12463580
fat is good for you, dipshit. you need fat. thanks for proving chicken is better. it offers a better ratio of fat and protein.

[Anonymous No.12463587]

>>12463583
>white meat
>hurr fat is good for you

Eat tuna. It has a lot of saturated fat which is actually good.

[Anonymous No.12463591]

>>12463492
not gonna eat them, faggot.

[Anonymous No.12463592]

>>12463587
i do eat tuna. tuna is great.

[Anonymous No.12463597]

>>12463591
Then you are against science.

[Anonymous No.12463605]

>>12463597
you are a retard. science doesn't answer ought, only is questions.

[Anonymous No.12463611]

>>12463605
Yeah, the question of which protein source is the best.

The answer is fish but because the oceans were overfished, insects are the next best answer.
Not to mention that it is so easy and cheap to raise them pound per pound against other meat source

[Anonymous No.12463617]

>>12463611
>diet is just protein

[Anonymous No.12463623]

>>12463611
>overfished
fish can be farmed. so instead of your shit insect farms that surface area should be put to fish.

[Anonymous No.12463626]

>>12463623
Only 20% of fishes in the market are farmed/farmable
Fishes takes as much as 6 months to reach full maturity - on par with swine and poultry. Not including the massive amount of terraforming needed for the aquaculture or whatever

Insects are monthly harvest and need only half-rotten vegetables for feed

[Anonymous No.12463639]

>>12463626
insects make up barely any of the agriculture infrastructure. you whining about converting to fish farming doesn't change that fish farming is already much more established than bug framing. bug farming hasn't been shown to scale while fish have. also since you think diet is just protein, then algae is the most you'll get. so really you should be setting up bioreactors with that and eating green sludge. it's the cheapest, scalable, highest turn over rate for most protein dense food you can get. also bugs taste like shit.

[Anonymous No.12463645]

>insect status
trashed

[Anonymous No.12463646]

>>12463639
I mean, I do eat Nori.
I don't mind that at all.

If it's cheap, healthy, and good for the environment, sure. I'm not a pussy

[Anonymous No.12463651]

>>12463646
>i define not being a pussy by what i put in my mouth

[Anonymous No.12463658]

>>12463651
I am not a pussy just because I don't like my food source

Man up and just douse it on sugar glaze

[Anonymous No.12463663]

>>12463645
>no comparison with insects though

[Anonymous No.12463665]

Another added benefit for eating insects is that it makes it harder for cross mutated strain to occur

In the last 100 years alone, we had Swine Flue, Avian Flue, Spanish Flue, Mad Cow Disease, African Swine Disease, HIV, and Corona (bioweapon?)

All strains that ocured from human to animal contact.

Having a food source that is an entirely different kingdom makes the chances of cross mutation to occur extremely low. We have never heard of any infestation from insectivorous countries like Cambodia and Thailand.

At best, all you will have is indigestion from insect carapace or heart burn because insect meat can be quite acidic

[Anonymous No.12463671]

>>12463658
>get type 2 diabetus to stomach my shit tasting "best" protein source
so much for health

[Anonymous No.12463673]

>>12463404
Because they are literally living proteins : no fat, no sugar, no bullshit. Just delicious and nutritious proteins.

[Anonymous No.12463674]

>>12463665
>t. retard who doesn't know bugs are some of the biggest carriers of disease
https://www.cmete.com/index.php?tg=articles&idx=Print&topics=101&article=68#:~:text=Insects%20(mosquitoes%2C%20lice%2C%20fleas,%2C%20filariasis%2C%20etc.).

[Anonymous No.12463680]

>>12463409
>superfood

>When media want to sell bullshit

[Anonymous No.12463683]

>>12463674
No one eats mosquitos and flies, mate. Huge difference

[Anonymous No.12463686]

>>12463671
Don't be so pedantic. You know what I mean
>honey
>ketchup
>steak sauce
>mayonaise
>semen
>grilled cheese
>Tabasco

Whatever you want

[Anonymous No.12463693]

>>12463404
Still doesn't beat fish and other seafood.

[Anonymous No.12463696]

>>12463686
>have a list of sauces guaranteed to give you type 2 diabetus to wash down my parasite ridden bugs
no thanks.

[Anonymous No.12463697]

>>12463693
Till viability and cost-efficiency became a discussion.

[Anonymous No.12463699]

>>12463674
No disease can survive your stomach

[Anonymous No.12463702]

>>12463697
bugs haven't been shown to scale.

[Anonymous No.12463707]

>>12463702
Seafood that needed a flowing water source

Vs Insect that only needed a box.

[Anonymous No.12463708]

>>12463699
lmao except for parasites that do, tard.

[Anonymous No.12463714]

>>12463707
keeping fish in a pond is easier than bugs that jump around the place.

[Anonymous No.12463715]

>>12463697
Even if the ocean stock gets harvested to oblivion, Fish can still be farmed. Will it be more expensive than insects? Probably, but i'd still pay 10$ for a fish instead of 1$ for an insect.

[Anonymous No.12463718]

>>12463708
>Parasite can survive pure acid (pH 1-3)

[Anonymous No.12463721]

>>12463715
the cheapest would be algae farming. most protein dense, highest turn over rate, easiest to farm, etc.

[Anonymous No.12463725]

>>12463718
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-10/uot-sdm102219.php

[Anonymous No.12463726]

>>12463714
Yeah, if you have a convenient pond that naturally flows water to remove the residue left my the fishes waste products.

Also, there are a huge amount of edible insects. From mealworms to grubs. Just put a mosquito net or whatever

[Anonymous No.12463729]

>>12463718
You’re a cute Asian, we could be frotting right now as long as you don’t eat bugs

[Anonymous No.12463742]

>>12463726
fish taste better and have a lot more than just protein. anyway, i have already determined the most cost effective food source here, it is algae if i ever end up a dirty poor siamese farmer like you i'll just rely on that. at least it won't taste like shit bugs.

[Anonymous No.12463744]

>>12463721
Too salty, bro.

[Anonymous No.12463752]

>>12463742
Can we even really consider that as meat, though?
Cause onions is also high in protein but you folks bash it because of estrogen.

Not sure about Algea which belongs in plantea

[Anonymous No.12463757]

>>12463752
>onions
*$0 ybeans

[Anonymous No.12463758]

>>12463726
Rain and rivers refill ponds with fresh water while bacteria, insects and other small creatures filter the waste product of fish and turn it into fertilizer for water plants in the pond that are eaten by small herbivore creatures, that are then eaten by carnivorous fish. That's how natural pond cycles work.

If you want an artificial farming method, you can go with tanks and aquaponics.

[Anonymous No.12463760]

>>12463758
Yes, that's the point.
You have to do a lot of terraforming and aquaculture to farm fishes

Insect farming is just a box and a sack of rotten apples

[Anonymous No.12463762]

>>12463744
you got rekt, kid. your bugs are shit. algae beats them in every category including not tasting like utter horseshit.

>>12463752
it is the most dense source of protein which is the goal here. doesn't matter if it's classified as meat, at least it doesn't taste like shit you need to drawn it in type 2 diabetus amounts of sugar to swallow.

[Anonymous No.12463764]

>>12463760
>Insect farming is just a box and a sack of rotten apples
Animal rights doesn't exist in your world.

[Anonymous No.12463765]

>>12463762
*drown

[Anonymous No.12463766]

>>12463517
>cramming more retard babbies on every last bit of livable land
why don't you address his point?
you do know that with your exponential growth religion even IF everyone starts eating bugs, you've only just bought a little bit of time before the next crisis

[Anonymous No.12463767]

>>12463764
Exactly.
Insects have no animal rights

[Anonymous No.12463779]

>>12463760
What do you mean terraforming just use plastic tanks.

[Anonymous No.12463781]

>>12463762
No, no. I don't mind eating algea, mate
But if it's a plant-based diet, it is bound to have its flaws as humans are omnivores.

Protein, saturated fat, iron, zinc, amino acids, etc.
Insects can fulfill these to such extents that they can cause over-nutrition.

I don't know about algea

[Anonymous No.12463785]

>>12463781
dha and epa are sourced from algae. protein is amino acids. algae is the superior food source.

[Anonymous No.12463792]

>>12463785
Ok, so I did some researching and...
>First, there is a limited understanding of nutritional composition across algal species, geographical regions, and seasons, all of which can substantially affect their dietary value.
>The second issue is quantifying which fractions of algal foods are bioavailable to humans, and which factors influence how food constituents are released, ranging from food preparation through genetic differentiation in the gut microbiome.
>Third is understanding how algal nutritional and functional constituents interact in human metabolism. Superimposed considerations are the effects of harvesting, storage, and food processing techniques that can dramatically influence the potential nutritive value of algal-derived foods. We highlight this rapidly advancing area of algal science with a particular focus on the key research required to assess better the health benefits of an alga or algal product

There's too little research done for now.
I don't mind supporting you if you turned out right but for now, I am keeping my opinion that insects are better simply because there are already good studies for it

[Anonymous No.12463800]

>The considerable breadth and depth of literature on algae asnutritional and functional foods frustrates attempts for a fullycomprehensive assessment of the field. It is clear that there issubstantial evidence for algae as nutritional and functional foods,yet there remain considerable challenges in quantifying thesebenefits, and in assessing potential adverse effects. The limitsto our understanding fall broadly into three areas. First is thevariation of nutritional and functional composition of algaeacross species, seasons, and different coastal environments. Thescant evidence to date suggests this variability can be substantialbut it is only possible to speculate about the scope of this incon-sistency. That is true also for quantification of toxic, or potentiallyharmful constituents present within, or adsorbed to algae.Assessments should also consider the effect of processingmethods, which can increase or decrease the nutritional quality.Of the challenges ahead, these issues are the most tractable toaddress, given that the analytical methods are well developed

Good read.

[Anonymous No.12463801]

>>12463696
>You are guaranteed to get type 2 diabetes for eating small doses of sauces
What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.12463808]

>>12463792
key phrase:
>across algal species
because there are countless species so yeah doing a full sweep on all algae is next to impossible. but spirulina, chlorella, etc are well studied and known to be great sources of food. better than insects.

[Anonymous No.12463809]

>>12463781
Being an omnivore means you CAN digest everything, not that you NEED to.

[Anonymous No.12463817]

>>12463785
The main problem you're overlooking is not what nutrients algae has but how much of those nutrients it has. In order to get the same amount of protein/amino acids etc from algae than you get from a single fish, meat or insect you'd need to eat such an exorbitant amount of it that it causes you more harm than good. The same goes for all those "superfood" vegetables, when they claim they contain xyz nutrient they rarely mention how little of that nutrient they contain in comparison to animal food. Next time you look up nutrient values, don't just look up what it provides but also the amount it provides.

[Anonymous No.12463826]

>>12463808
I tried looking at research gate and cannot find any study that compares them to conventional meat sources.

There are health benefits but nothing suggests them to be a replacement for meat.

I can't find any study saying so

[Anonymous No.12463832]

>>12463817
>In order to get the same amount of protein/amino acids etc from algae than you get from a single fish, meat or insect you'd need to eat such an exorbitant amount of it that it causes you more harm than good.
algae can be 60% or more in protein. that is more than insect, so you need to eat less algae to get more protein from it than you would insect. also while getting more viatmins and fatty acids and not tasting like trash.

[Anonymous No.12463836]

>>12463809
Just because you can survive on plants only doesn't mean it's healthy to do so. Several health studies have shown that Vegan diets lead to weakened bones and immune system, reduced muscle and brain development, increased risk regarding strokes, cancer, dementia and mental illness. Look it up and see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.12463842]

>>12463826
nutrition studies are garbage click bait anyway. you can look at the break down of compounds and compare, algae win out in veery category. more protein. epa, dha, vitamins, etc.

[Anonymous No.12463848]

>>12463836
vegans are missing certain nutrients in their diet namely b12 which explains that. algae is rich in b vitamins.

[Anonymous No.12463867]

>>12463842
Sorry, but there are just no study claiming they could replace meat.
Can't find one.

[Anonymous No.12463873]

>>12463867
>i need a study to tell me instead of figuring it out
look, algae are composed of everything you'll find in meat in higher concentrations so it can easily replace meat. you don't need some brainlet nutrition major who cannot control for confounders to tell you the obvious.

[Anonymous No.12463884]

>>12463873
No study, not valid.
Nothing personal. Just seeking credible sources

If it's just nutrition, there are multivitamin tablets that you can overdose on.

[Anonymous No.12463888]

>>12463836
>Several health studies have shown that Vegan diets lead to weakened bones and immune system
Bullshit.
Rest too.
>Look it up and see for yourself.
I did. All I could find was lower iodine levels and sometimes iron, depending on the exact diet.

>>12463848
That's the only one missing if no action is taken. They supplement though, which gives them sufficient B12. In contrast to meat eaters, who are very often deficient in B12 because of mass-produced meat. B12 comes from microbes in the ground, which animals that we eat aren't exposed to anymore. They get supplements, but often the B12 levels are low.
If vegans ate plants from the ground, they'd have B12.

[Anonymous No.12463905]

>>12463884
>No study, not valid.
so i guess there must be life on venus then.

>>12463888
i remember you.

anyway, to the both of you, i'm gonna go enjoy some meat and plants and maybe start an algae farm.

[Anonymous No.12463911]

>>12463905
Dude, there is no study.
End of story

Maybe after a few years you can bring back your argument but current research suggests insects to be the best.
That is all

[Anonymous No.12463920]

>>12463905
>i remember you.
Creepy. Doubt it though.

I sprinkle my salads with dried algae btw, it's fucking amazing to a good steak from the local farmer which wasn't stuffed with bullshit.

[Anonymous No.12463928]

>>12463911
lmao, there are countless studies on the nutrient composition of algae and they rape insects off the plate.
http://www.spiruvit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Biomass-Nutrient-Profiles-of-Three.pdf

[Anonymous No.12463956]

>>12463832
Are you not aware that different proteins exist? Different Vitamins and different fatty acids? Plants can be rich in certain proteins, vitamins and acids but extremely poor in others, and the ones they universally tend to be poorest in is what you find a lot of in animal products. Again, look up the exact nutrients and their amount, then compare them with the exact nutrients amounts in animal products. Make sure to keep the weight in mind.

>>12463848
>Rich
Kek. Look up the amount of b12 that algae has and than look up the amount of b12 animal products have per 100 gram and compare the amount. Then calculate how much algae you'd need to ingest to get the same. Then think about saying the word rich again.

>>12463873
>algae are composed of everything you'll find in meat in higher concentrations so it can easily replace meat.
You're not even trying to stay within the bounds of reality anymore are you? That's why i hate talking to diet fags, you guys are like devote belivers of sects. No matter how many facts destroy your world view, you just ignore it. It's already ridiculous when vegans claim their diet is healthier, but plant based food being more nutrient dense than animal products? That takes the cake.

[Anonymous No.12463959]

OP, can you just post the resources you are sourcing from and let us make an informed opinion?

[Anonymous No.12464021]

>>12463956
>Are you not aware that different proteins exist?
yeah and they all break down to the same 20 aas.

>Different Vitamins and different fatty acids?
yes and algae have them all. why do you think i mentioned epa and dha? i'm more aware than the faggot who doesn't known that proteins are chains of aas.

>Make sure to keep the weight in mind.
http://www.spiruvit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Biomass-Nutrient-Profiles-of-Three.pdf
algae win again.

>Kek. Look up the amount of b12 that algae has and than look up the amount of b12 animal products have per 100 gram and compare the amount.
chlorella have 100ug/100g. you need 1-25ug per day.

>hen think about saying the word rich again.
you think you know what you're talking about. how rich.

>You're not even trying to stay within the bounds of reality anymore are you?
see:
>Algae Composition
>Nutritional Value and Human Consumption
>The crude protein content (N × 6.25) varies between 45 and 73%, while the lipid content is 2–20% which is rich in essential fatty acids; and the mineral content is 5–10%. The chemical composition of some algal species is shown on Table 2. Main components in g per 100 g dry wt.

>many facts destroy your world view, you just ignore it. I
i'm not in favor of any diet but not eating insects. i have yet to see any facts defeat my points. algae are better than insects in every way: cost, scale, nutrition density, etc. and i prefer eating chicken, rice, and vege.

[Anonymous No.12464051]

>>12463483
If we want to "save the world" the retards ruining shit need their shit slapped in. Pollution? A vast majority of that is attributed to China and there's a lot of it we still don't know about. Rapid population growth and the multiple problems whic come with it? Bugmen and terrorist-breeding cultures that highly encourage men to take multiple wives and produce as many children as possible need to be stopped.

I'm not going to switch from steaks to onions because some sand nigger's culture tells him to have 20 kids. I'm all for reducing carbon footprints and recycling and reducing waste in general but let's not pretend like the issue is anywhere close to equal across the world. Most of it is due to a select few countries.

[Anonymous No.12464063]

>>12464051
Chinese people already eat bugs

[Anonymous No.12464071]

>>12464063
Their population growth is still a major factor in the amount of pollution they produce.

[Anonymous No.12464077]

>>12464063
and they are still the biggest polluter on earth by a wide margin.

[Anonymous No.12464079]

>>12464021
This.

[Anonymous No.12464084]

>>12463442
just ate a hot pocket
i live in an efficiency apt
i own a matching crocodile shoes/belt set
i feel nothing

[Anonymous No.12464094]

None of you have had fried magicicada on a stick and it shows.

[Anonymous No.12464123]

>>12463404
I could honestly eat bug powder or something like mix it in with the rest of the food to get enough protien

[Anonymous No.12464133]

>>12463434
Imagine being this childish

[Anonymous No.12464137]

>>12464133
Yes, yes, continue to insult and degrade him for having an instinctual disgust concerning bugs as a primary food source. I'm sure you're gonna prove your point any chide now.

[Anonymous No.12464147]

why are right wingers on the internet so scared of bugs? are you little babies? eat the bugs, they are nutritious, tasty and sustainable

[Anonymous No.12464152]

>>12464147
>the only form of dissent is fear
This is the worst notion to ever come out of this entire civilization, including witch trials and video game streaming.

[Anonymous No.12464159]

>>12464152
give me one reason you dont wanna eat bugs other than "me no want eat bug bug is yucky!"

[Anonymous No.12464160]

>>12463559
Based Entomologist

[Anonymous No.12464162]

>>12464159
I think eating bugs is fine, but the same way I don't jam chicken sandwiches down somebody's throat when they don't like chicken, I don't try to shame people into eating bugs. If your solution to overpopulation is 100% adherence to a particular diet then you just want everyone to be mad at you while the planet dies.

[Anonymous No.12464164]

>>12463492
ive had salted crickets before, tastes like potato chips really.

[Anonymous No.12464167]

>>12464159
1) Scaling up bug milk/meat/whatever production to an actual useful level would be either near impossible, or make it too expense for it to be a reasonable alternative.
2) The reason why vegan diets are bad for you is that they don't have various micronutrients that why need, but aren't checked for because meat has them all. Why are you so confident that bug diets don't have a similar problem?

[Anonymous No.12464169]

>>12463404
I am not eating bugs. My ancestors didn't work and die for their descendants to have to resort to eating god damn bugs.

[Anonymous No.12464173]

>>12464152
It's how they try to normalize everything they push: act like there's a social consensus and anyone who disagrees for any reason has issues.

[Anonymous No.12464175]

>>12464147
Why do left wingers always try to insult and shame everyone into living as degenerate as them?

[Anonymous No.12464180]

>>12464162
im not trying to shame people into eating bugs, but its worth pointing out that bugs are a good substitute for meat that has many advantages
only that obviously wont solve "overpopulation" since the real problem is one of distribution but thats a different issue
>>12464167
>Scaling up bug milk/meat/whatever production to an actual useful level would be either near impossible, or make it too expense for it to be a reasonable alternative.
are you just pulling this out of your ass? there are already massive farming operations for bugs everywhere
we have brough meat production to a scale thats beyond ridiculous, what tells you we cant do the same for bugs
>The reason why vegan diets are bad for you is that they don't have various micronutrients that why need, but aren't checked for because meat has them all. Why are you so confident that bug diets don't have a similar problem?
youre just assuming shit, i didnt say ONLY eat the bug, just eat the bug and whatever else you need to be healthy. and eating the bug would certainly make it easier to rely less on meat, which would be a good thing for everyone

[Anonymous No.12464196]

I eat beef.
I don't eat intestines, hide, udders, hooves, assholes, bones, eyes, ears, gums, teeth, noses, stomachs, bladders, hearts, lungs, and tails.
Some people do.
Some people are weird.
Call me when you get a roach sirloin, then we'll talk.

[Anonymous No.12464197]

>>12463404
Why not just grow the bugs on garbage then feed the bugs to chickens?
we then eat the chickens happily?

[Anonymous No.12464199]

>>12464180
First Post
>If you don't eat bugs you must be a rightwinger and scared, you're behaving like a little baby.
Second Post
>im not trying to shame people into eating bugs

Who are you trying to fool here?

[Anonymous No.12464234]

>>12464199
Give it up man. Here's a hint at what he'll do next.

[Anonymous No.12464244]

>>12463492

Just because third world shitskins eat them doesn't mean actual humans should, cuck.

[Anonymous No.12464287]

>Veganism will save us all!
>Actually no it's lab grown meat that will save us all!
>No it's actually eating bugs that will save us all!
Can you motherfuckers make up your minds? Or maybe instead try to find carbon reduction solutions that aren't retarded?

[Anonymous No.12464315]

>>12463532
Not the same type of protein.
Plus certain animal fats are good for you.

[Anonymous No.12464317]

>>12464234
It's interesting how most of what he said still holds true almost a century later.

[Anonymous No.12464330]

>>12463492
>80% of the world eats it
80% of the world also happens to be poorfag subhuman thirdworld shitskins.

[Anonymous No.12464341]

>>12464287
Eat bugs

[Anonymous No.12464373]

I have the best solution

>stop sending foreign aid to Africa, leave the entire god damn continent alone, and let them go back to a natural carrying capacity

>do stop giving out child subsidization as welfare; preferably mandate reversible sterilization to be illegible for welfare

>transition economies from continuous growth to sustained self-sufficiency

>nuke 90% of China and India's respective urban landmasses

There you go; the world is saved, we're down to a comfortable few billion, and everyone can still eat beef.

[Anonymous No.12464379]

>>12464373
>nuke 90% of China and India's respective urban landmasses
This is the only one I would say wouldn't save anything. Nuclear fallout would absolutely devastate the environment. While lead is also not good for the environment, it's a preferable alternative to radioactive fallout.

[Anonymous No.12464388]

>>12464379
The ecologies of those areas are already devastated beyond belief, nukes wouldn't do too much more harm. Also, modern airburst nuclear devices (especially lower yield ones that can be discretely applied) are far, far more clean than earlier bombs. Nowhere near as dirty as a nuclear meltdown, either.

I suppose we could settle for just widescale firebombing instead, though.

[Anonymous No.12464598]

>>12464373
Here's a thought for ya.

Now, as it stands, nothing bar natural catastrophe is going to curb population growth and environmental damage ( pollution, loss of biodiversity, etc ). Western governments won't act, neither will countries like China, India, Nigeria, etc.

So nature will do the job for us. Whether or not a biosphere will manage to survive is the only question, but.....

Say China achieves global hegemony in the next 100 years. Not entirely unlikely the way the West is imploding. So then China exists as the only world super power, bides its time, and then slowly moves in and takes over once all the western countries become variants of Brazil.

With the world politically, culturally and economically dominated by China there then exists the very real, and perhaps only real chance, that the world can avert environmental collapse of the ecosystems and food chains.

Basically as shit becomes really real, the Chinese eventually wake up to the need to act sustainability on a global scale and simply enforce what has to be done. Through draconian measures if necessary. With absolutely nobody left to oppose them. Forced or highly incentivized sterilization, habitat restoration, breeding programs for what species have managed to survive up until this point, dramatic reduction in wastes, banning of all but the most essential plastics, rationing of remaining fossil fuel reserves, etc.

Be sure the Chinese elite will not suffer, but they will quite happily see the rest of the world and many of their own people return to pre-industrial revolution standards while they maintain a high tech and consumer oriented lifestyle on scattered idyllic Chinese colonies around the world.

Consider too the reduction of wasted reserves spent on military spending should China achieve hegemony. All that can be channeled towards environmental repair, space programs and other research.

Now I agree its a long shot of this happening. But it may be the only shot.

[Anonymous No.12464629]

>>12464598
You're forgetting the crucial fact that the Chinese are, in fact, soulless bugmen, and the closest thing approaching ecological repair on their part, and the resulting world you describe would make the most artificial of zoos look like natural reserves. With no western nations left to pander to, the Chinese have no reason to pretend to be western.

The Chinese are not good people. The Chinese are not people at all. They are a semi-alien blight on human civilization for thousands of years, and a Chinese hegemony will spell the death knell for whatever remains of human civilization, as well as whatever remains of the natural world.

What's the point of space programs and other research if inhuman chinese "society" is all that remains of humanity; better to just self-slaughter and preserve what little remains of Earth.

[Anonymous No.12464643]

>>12463492
so 80% of the world should stop eating it

[Anonymous No.12464644]

>>12463483
We could also just genocide everyone.

[Anonymous No.12464658]

>>12463483
2bh, fuck this board. Economists are right and scientists are wrong. Stop thinking that we need to bring down the level of the West to the level of the rest of the world to deal with increases in population. Growth is actually possible for humans, even if it's not for brute animals.

[Anonymous No.12464702]

>>12464629
Although you are right in many respects the Chinese do have several valuable characteristics. They value education. They value technology. They value science. They are builders.

Although a Chinese dominated world might not be much to live in there exists some chance that Humanity will survive and manage to get off this planet. I dont see it happening otherwise. In that case there also exists the hope that at least some of the Chinese will develop into emphatic cultures ( although one would hope without all the self genocidal tendencies and liberal bullshit that destroyed the West ). As an example most Singaporeans are ethnically Chinese yet display little of the "soulless bugmen" behavior you mention.

[Anonymous No.12464727]

>>12464629
>he Chinese are, in fact, soulless bugmen
I wonder what that makes the overweight american masses who cheerfully practice shit down economics and praise the shit on their heads as a great gift from their capitalist masters.

The Chinese will rule the world and they will do it much more wisely than americans ever could. In a thousand years kids will laugh at the typical fat american buffoon, stupid and cheering the very people who mean him harm. For eternity, this will be the image future generations have of America, its hegemony the lowest point of human civilization.

[Anonymous No.12464767]

>>12464727
The Chinese can't even rule themselves wisely, and they have been unable to do so for the entirety of their history. Since the dawn of Chinese history, they have been a broken, dystopic people, destroying and consuming themselves only to be conquered and raped by superior outside forces.

The contemporary Chinese "people" only exist by the fact that they historically absorbed whatever new foreign conquerors ruled over them, with China forgetting its own culture and people over, and over, and over again, only to collapse in civil war until a new warlord manages to unite its land for a few hundred years.

Even now, China is a hideous industrial landscape the likes of which put even the worst excesses of industrial Britain and America to shame, and the entire country is a horrible admixture of the worst of both Capitalism and Communism combined. China is not only the closest thing to a dystopia in real life, its cruelty exceeds many fictional examples. People in the richest cities live in cages just to afford rent, an overwhelming majority of its population live in destitute conditions, and its military is a laughing stock, unable to project beyond its own coast.

Whatever complains there are towards America and the west in general (and there are many, many valid complaints), never forget that it's the west that China attempts to imitate, the west's wealth and glory and history, only to fail due to the inherent inferiority of the Chinese people. Funnily enough, the only thing China successfully imitates (and does ten times as much) is the inequality and oppressive nature of western Capitalism.

To call anything ruled by the Chinese "civilization", would be the same as to call the mud and straw huts "architecture". A hilarious (were it not so depressingly sad) parody of something forever out of reach.

Seethe now and forever, Chang.

[Anonymous No.12464782]

>>12464702
If Singapore and similar cultures inherited the Earth, then yes, I agree that things might end up better.

As for education, technology, science, and builders? Mainland China practices only shameless parodies of these.

Their education is rife with corruption and cheating.
Their technology and science is almost always stolen from the west, in a hilarious inversion of antiquity.
Their construction is invariably shoddy and low quality, Chinese industry is universally panned as being poor.

[Anonymous No.12464816]

>>12464315
Bugs are animals?

[Anonymous No.12464874]

>>12463483
>>12463517
>>12463528
>>12463580
>>12463665
Are you Jewish?

[Anonymous No.12464875]

>>12463928
Your own link says that it is a food supplement and not a replacement for meat and bread

[Anonymous No.12464878]

>>12464874
Asian

[Anonymous No.12464884]

Imagine being so unwilling to adapt you advocate for genocide over a dietary change.

[Anonymous No.12464889]

>>12464051
Chinese is doing insane stuff when it comes to renewable energy, they also planted a forest bigger than most countries
Also sandpeople breed slower than Europeans

[Anonymous No.12464914]

>>12464884
It's not genocide if they're not people.

Also, secondly, yes; I'd kill a hundred thousand Chinese before I give up my steak.

[Anonymous No.12464915]

>>12464330
Says the American as he eats Herseys that does not pass as chocolate and Kraft "cheese" that is 40% dairy product.
The American claims they are superior for eating food of nothning but highly addictive sugar

[Anonymous No.12464917]

>>12463559
>you WILL eat the cockroach cum™
>you WILL live in the shoebox
>you WILL live isolated from all other humans
>you WILL take the sterilization vaxx
>you WILL vote democrat
>you WILL open the borders
>you WILL pay for the baby killings
>you WILL worship Satan
...but wait...oy vey... hes breaking the conditioning...
>I WILL NOT EAT THE BUGS
>I WILL NOT LIVE IN THE POD
>I WILL OWN LAND
>I WILL HAVE LIBERTY
>I WILL WORSHIP GOD
>I WILL PROTECT BABIES
>I WILL HAVE A FAMILY
>I WILL CONSERVE MY NATION
>I WILL KILL COMMUNISTS

[Anonymous No.12464924]

>>12463409
To be fair some foods are just better gram for gram. A lettuce salad is basically water and fiber meanwhile a broccoli or a cabbage salad is very nutritious.

[Anonymous No.12464925]

>>12464917
So allergic to science he considers it all a conspiracy

[Anonymous No.12464928]

>>12464925
fuck science™
fuck jannies
fuck jews
fuck you

[Anonymous No.12464934]

>>12464928
Pussy

[Anonymous No.12464945]

>>12464934
>you are a pussy because you refuse to tow down to the NWO
>you are a pussy because you refuse to lower your standard of living for 2 billion niggers
>you are a pussy because you have principles that you stick up for
>you are a pussy because your morals conflict with the degenerate slide into savagery
>you are a pussy because you are willing to fight the globohomo jews until the end
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.12464946]

>>12464875
>and not a replacement for meat and bread
nowhere does it say that, you absolute mental midget.

[Anonymous No.12464951]

>>12463523
The claim was meat Industry produce more methane than any other source. He disproved that by showing its wetlands, you don't have a point

[Anonymous No.12464954]

>>12464914
>us against them finite world mentality

[Anonymous No.12464958]

>>12464915
Says the bugman chink as he roasts dogs alive, eats bats, and generally has a cuisine composed entirely of peasant offal masked in oil.

Your "people" are subhuman and your culture is even more nonexistent than America's.

[Anonymous No.12464960]

>>12464946
>THE BIOCHEMISTRY AND PHYSIOLOGY OF
microalgae have been studied extensively, and microalgae cultures have been
developed as a *food supplement* (Schwartz
and others 1991; Brown and others 1997;
Jany 1997; Miranda and others 1998; Nitzan
and others 1999).

The objective of this research is to determine the proximate composition, fatty acid
profiles (FAs), and mineral contents of Spirulina platensis, Chlorella vulgaris, and Isochrisis galbana, and to compare the abovementioned microalgae as *potential food
supplements and food additives*

[Anonymous No.12464962]

>>12464945
>>12464958

Just accept the facts that bugs are good and stop crying like a baby

[Anonymous No.12464964]

>>12464954
Yes. The world is finite, the Chinese are not people, and Endless Growth (tm) while singing kumbaya and holding hands just drags everyone down to the same level of barely tolerable mediocrity.

Fuck you and fuck your locust mentality.

[Anonymous No.12464965]

>>12464945
>ywnbaw

You talk like a low IQ normie faggot who is obsessed with internet culture, social trends, and using the hippest, newest, quirkiest slang.

[Anonymous No.12464966]

>>12464960
>microalgae have been studied extensively, and microalgae cultures have been developed as a *food supplement*
yeah you fucking illiterate, moron. this doesn't mean that it's not a replacement. just that it was initially developed as a supplement.

[Anonymous No.12464970]

>>12463404
It doesn't really matter how "nutritious" they are if your body can't absorb the nutrients. How much fat can cockroaches produce?

[Anonymous No.12464971]

>>12464962
Just accept the fact that chinks are inhuman homunculi and that actual humans are under no obligation to sacrifice our standard of civilized living in a malthusian race to the bottom to accommodate hordes of poor third worlders who wouldn't know society if it punched them in the face.

[Anonymous No.12464972]

>>12464966
And there is no study saying that it is an alternative food source.
Stop trying, mate

[Anonymous No.12464973]

>>12464965
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.12464974]

>>12464972
except it's composition. ffs you are so dumb.
>hurr durr no study claims the obvious

[Anonymous No.12464975]

>>12464971
Bugs are cheaper and healthier than red meat.
Facts over feelings, matey

[Anonymous No.12464978]

>>12463404
>Most ant species are edible, their flavor is pleasantly sour. This is because ants secrete an acid when threatened, giving them a vinegar-like flavor. In Colombia ants are roasted with salt (crunchy salt-and-vinegar ants!) and eaten at feasts.

>Crickets contain 2 to 3 times more complete protein than a beef steak on the same weight basis. Crickets will also give you more iron, more vitamins, and more fiber. In addition, a cricket steak represents a huge ecological advantage, compared to a beef one.

[Anonymous No.12464979]

>>12464975
>healthier
nope

[Anonymous No.12464982]

>>12464974
Stop trying to stir the facts. Until it was compared to rice and wheat in a study taht compares its short and long-term effects, it is not a reliable source

[Anonymous No.12464983]

>>12464169
Your ancestors worked and died for you to remain a virgin?

[Anonymous No.12464987]

>>12464975
Yeah and rice is the most calorie dense grain, but I'm sticking with my wheat and barley, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.12464988]

>>12464982
>opinion
>facts
you are such a dimwit. something being a food replacement is an opinion, it's not a fact. the fact is algae are a source of every fucking nutrient in higher concentration than bugs.

[Anonymous No.12464990]

>>12464979
Facts over feelings :^)

[Anonymous No.12464999]

>>12464988
Yeah, right.
Where is your study?

[Anonymous No.12465006]

>>12464990
>density of macronutrients and kcals
>health

[Anonymous No.12465008]

>>12464964
The world is finite but nobody know its ultimate productivity. I would think that people that studied science would get that but apparently not.

>your locust mentality
That's your mentality. You think that someone has to eat the locusts.

[Anonymous No.12465011]

>>12464999
>i am a retard who is unable to reason

[Anonymous No.12465017]

>>12464999
i gave you one study showing common algae composition. they are >60% protein while full of vitamins and minerals. way more than your shit tasting bugs.

[Anonymous No.12465023]

>>12465017
>>12465011
Listen here,
There already are tablets and pills of solid multivitamins but they are still just a food supplement, not a replacement.

There is no study for algea and till then it isn't an alternative food source

Overnutrition and vitamin overdose is a thing

[Anonymous No.12465025]

>>12464964
>Locust mentality
>Based on unrestrained consumption
>Would murder 100k people so they don't have to stop consooming
Hmm

[Anonymous No.12465034]

>>12465008
>That's your mentality. You think that someone has to eat the locusts.
I think we should kill the locusts before they devour our fields, rather than us becoming like locusts ourselves.

>The world is finite but nobody know its ultimate productivity.
Why should we reach its ultimate productivity at its greatest sustainable population density? This is exactly what I mean by locust mentality; optimization for population at the expense of all else.

Why go for a stable 20 billion when we could try for only 2 billion, and the corresponding increases in living standards?

[Anonymous No.12465039]

>>12465025
>would rather have another few billion people on the planet, and everyone living worse lives because of it, rather than just NOT having more people and instead having people enjoy the fruits of advanced economies and infrastructures.

8 billion as we are now is already way too many. Arguably anything over 1 billion is way too many.

[Anonymous No.12465044]

>>12465023
>There already are tablets and pills of solid multivitamins but they are still just a food supplement, not a replacement.
because they are just micronutrients. algae are >60% protein. you areally are a mental midget.

>There is no study for algea
i gave you one. there are hundreds of studies on algae.

>Overnutrition and vitamin overdose is a thing
of lipophilic vitamins which isn't the case here.

[Anonymous No.12465050]

>>12465025
>i care more about cramming as many people on this rock than the quality of their lives
absolute peak retard mentality.

[Anonymous No.12465058]

>>12465044
All you have is a study of algea
What you do not have is the study of using it as an alternative food source.

Short term and long term effects are a real deal as vitamin poisoning are a real threat and changes in gut biome can have its serious consequences in both physical and mental health.

Till then, shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.12465061]

>>12465039
As long as you are aware you won't be in that 1 billion. If you promote the reduction in total population and are willing to be a part of that then at least I can respect you even if I disagree.

As a side note, personally I don't think net humans is the goal but net order.
>>12465050
I didn't say anything about fitting the max number of humans. Just the irony that someone who has a consooming instinct so strong they would murder 100k people is trying to call anyone else a locust. Locusts are literally pests because they don't stop consooming and kill a bunch of people.

[Anonymous No.12465075]

>>12465034
>Why should we reach its ultimate productivity at its greatest sustainable population density? This is exactly what I mean by locust mentality; optimization for population at the expense of all else.
You don't have to optimize for population at the cost of all else. If people don't want extra kids at the current cost of things, they won't have them. The only way to get them to have extra kids would be to subsidize it e.g. free schooling or food or healthcare or some such.

[Anonymous No.12465082]

>>12465058
a study of the composition of the compounds they are made of. we know what those compounds do and their nutrition long term and short term effects. put two and two together, you retard. also leanr the difference between lipo and water soluble vitamins, you absolute mental midget. you don't need a study to then come tell you the obvious. your insect studies do the same thing btw. they look at the composition then say you can use it as a replacement.

[Anonymous No.12465085]

>>12465061
>As long as you are aware you won't be in that 1 billion.
Why not? I'm western, so I have a pretty good chance.

> If you promote the reduction in total population and are willing to be a part of that then at least I can respect you even if I disagree.
I promote reduction in total population in Africa, India, and China primarily because they're the three main killers of Earth and its ecology.

>Locusts are literally pests because they don't stop consooming and kill a bunch of people.
Locusts are pests not because one individual locust consooms, but because they keep breeding and breeding and their swarms become so large that they destroy all available food.

[Anonymous No.12465087]

>>12465075
>If people don't want extra kids at the current cost of things, they won't have them. The only way to get them to have extra kids would be to subsidize it e.g. free schooling or food or healthcare or some such.
1st world liberal democracies aren't the source of population growth, anon.

[Anonymous No.12465091]

>>12465087
population growth is undesirable passed the 1st billion people. especially given the rise of automation, we should be shrinking. not growing.

[Anonymous No.12465100]

>>12465082
>Consumption of any food is not without risk, so the promotion of algal consumption must also consider potential harm to consumers. Possible risks associated with algae include excess intake of toxic metals, allergenicity, cyanotoxins, and certainly secondary metabolites (e.g., prostaglandins, kainoids) as well as contamination with pathogens, radioisotopes, and toxic synthetic compounds.

First is the variation of nutritional and functional composition of algae across species, seasons, and different coastal environments. The scant evidence to date suggests this variability can be substantial but it is only possible to speculate about the scope of this inconsistency. That is true also for quantification of toxic, or potentially harmful constituents present within, or adsorbed to algae. Assessments should also consider the effect of processing methods, which can increase or decrease the nutritional quality. Of the challenges ahead, these issues are the most tractable to address, given that the analytical methods are well developed.

The second, and perhaps most pressing limitation, is quantifying the bioavailability, or fraction of nutritional or functional components that actually have effect in relation to their residence time in the digestive system. These effects can manifest via translocation across the small intestinal epithelial cells into the blood, by direct interactions with the digestive epithelia, by altering uptake of other substances, by regulating the microbial consortium, or by direct contact with colonic epithelial cells in the large intestine (e.g., colon cancer).

STFU

[Anonymous No.12465107]

>>12465085
Because if you advocate for global population reduction you should at least be prepared to die. Otherwise you are just a self-righteous faggot who needs to move past middle school mentally.

Bacteria keep breeding and breeding but don't destroy the entire world because they eat little that we care about. It's not just unrestrained growth. Locusts appear when a grasshopper population grows too dense. Grasshoppers are the ones that breed and breed and breed. Locusts are when they run out of nearby food and instead of fixing their own problems they fly out and eat everything they can get their mandibles on. The irony being that their flight takes more energy so they need to consume even more.

I wonder whose foreign policy that sounds most like?

[Anonymous No.12465108]

>>12465100
>hurr durr not all algae are edible therefore algae is not a food source
same thing can be said about your bugs then, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12465111]

>>12465107
>global pop reduction means murder
lmao nope.

[Anonymous No.12465116]

>>12465108
And there is no study comparing them side by side in a long and short term effect
God, shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.12465122]

>>12465107
>Because if you advocate for global population reduction you should at least be prepared to die.
I reject your myth of equality.

>It's not just unrestrained growth. Locusts appear when a grasshopper population grows too dense.
... so unrestrained growth in a finite system. Like Earth.

>Locusts are when they run out of nearby food and instead of fixing their own problems they fly out and eat everything they can get their mandibles on.
Like 3rd worlders emigrating to stable 1st world countries, causing these crypto-rationing measures like "eat the bugs" and so forth in the first place.

Thank you for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.12465123]

>>12465116
you are such a retard. the composition is known. your stomach doesn't care if it's algae or meat. just what are the molecules. you are such a dimwit.

[Anonymous No.12465127]

>>12465087
Your point being?

[Anonymous No.12465128]

>>12465123
>you gut bacteria would not care
Retard
Fecal transfer is a thing for a reason

[Anonymous No.12465134]

>>12465127
My point being that "people won't have kids if they can't afford them" is an irrelevant statement when the people actually having kids are poor 3rd worlders making baby by the half dozen, supported by international aid, of which a non-negligible slice is siphoned off as immigration (and thus non-native population growth) to 1st world nations.

[Anonymous No.12465136]

>>12465128
>you gut bacteia would not care
algae passing through your stomach wouldn't harm them.
>Fecal transfer is a thing for a reason
yeah you love shoving shit down your throat.

[Anonymous No.12465144]

Another thing to point against Algea is that it's a plant meaning that much of it nutrients would just pass through

Cellouse CANNOT be digested by the human stomach and needs as much as 4 stomachs and huge amount of bacteria culture to process resulting to constant flatuence

At best, a human will only gain 1% of it and that's putting it kindly.

[Anonymous No.12465152]

>>12465111
Good luck on mass sterilization. Unless you have a better method?

>>12465122
It would be true if those third worlders had been the ones to consume all their own resources. I mean, it's not like there is a group of countries that hasn't made it's legacy off of reaping the resources of distant countries and maintaing military dominance/political strife to ensure favorable conditions for aggressive and unfair market practices in favor of them. US, europe, china, this is how they grow. They consume the resources of weaker nations that have fewer people and are unable to protect their own resources.

Kind of like a locust that decides to spread when it uses up the resources in its own area.

If you aren't willing to die for an ideological goal that would require the deaths of others then I can't respect you. Rules for thee and not for me faggot.

[Anonymous No.12465157]

>>12465144
>Another thing to point against Algea is that it's a plant meaning that much of it nutrients would just pass through
lol this meme.
>Cellouse CANNOT
is separate from the other nutrients. your intestines don't go "hurp durp cellulose is present here so lets stop absorbing the things we can". learn about osmosis, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12465160]

>>12465134
There's lot to be said against that. Western countries, when they started to industrialize, had big spikes in population. It wasn't until sometime later on that population growth started to peter out. Urbanization and reduction in the child morality rate probably plays a role. Prosperity leads to a decline in birth rate, it just take a while.

[Anonymous No.12465167]

>>12465152
your conditions improved thanks to colonialism. if it wasn't for colonialism you would be even more poor and not have a computer to sperg on about eating bugs.

[Anonymous No.12465179]

>>12464244
>Fantasizes about literal bug eating women.

[Anonymous No.12465180]

>>12465152
>It would be true if those third worlders had been the ones to consume all their own resources. I mean, it's not like there is a group of countries that hasn't made it's legacy off of reaping the resources of distant countries and maintaing military dominance/political strife to ensure favorable conditions for aggressive and unfair market practices in favor of them. US, europe, china, this is how they grow. They consume the resources of weaker nations that have fewer people and are unable to protect their own resources.

Do you honestly think that in the scarce ~100 years of industrialized colonialism that those nations had enough of their nonrenewable resources stripped to where they're permanently trapped?
Or that the fact that they were colonized at all DIDN'T bootstrap them several hundred years into the future?

Why do you think those countries were even exploited in the first place? To support the growing populations of larger nations, which are simultaneously being bolstered by immigration.

I'm AGAINST endless economic growth. I'm AGAINST endless population growth. I'm AGAINST immigration. Just because I rightly recognize thirdworlders as the current blight that's lowering standards of living over time, and the main source of population growth, doesn't mean I support the endless expansion of the 1st world either. God, you disingenuous faggot.


>If you aren't willing to die for an ideological goal that would require the deaths of others then I can't respect you. Rules for thee and not for me faggot.
I'm willing to die to bring about population reduction, but me and people like me aren't the ones who need to be culled, which is what you were obviously trying to get at, retard.

[Anonymous No.12465182]

>>12465160
Maybe, maybe not. Industrial western society is just a few data points, and I'm not going to assume that the 3rd world is "just like us".

I'm also not going to assume that they'll modernize and urbanize before their sustained growth causes global economic collapse.

I also DON'T want them to modernize or urbanize at all, because that just means more people. They're the primary source of problems, but the west could do with some depopulation too.

[Anonymous No.12465187]

>>12465152
>Good luck on mass sterilization. Unless you have a better method?
good luck controlling what people can and cannot eat.

[Anonymous No.12465192]

>>12465167
What even is that graph? "Significant figures"?

Ah yes, helpful colonialism. Where the fee examples of it working out involve the extermination of the native populations and replacement with the ones colonizing. That sounds similar to a type of insect we were discussing that decimates local populations on it's quest to consume so that their babies grow unopposed.

Funny you also seem to think that without colonialism people would be worse off categorically. I'm sure that's what the middle east thought when the US needed oil and what south/central america thought when we needed palm oil and bananas.

I'm not even talking about shit that happened 50 years ago, I'm talking about current practices for accruing resources for consumption. My life is better because I happen to live in the country that's the best at sapping resources from every other country. Doesn't mean I'm not aware of the fact that it made a whole lot of other people's lives categorically worse so walmart can have 1$ dildos

[Anonymous No.12465193]

>>12465144
Indeed, humans can't digest cellulose. Chlorella is processed before consumption for that reason, and spirulina is not even an algea it's a cyanobacteria and therefore has no cellulose.

Can any of you even read the basic wiki articles and go from there, or do you just hallucinate and chimp out?

[Anonymous No.12465203]

>>12465192
which country should have resources? the one which produces technology or the one which rolls in the mud? your choice. this is what you are whining about.

[Anonymous No.12465204]

>>12465182
>I'm also not going to assume that they'll modernize and urbanize before their sustained growth causes global economic collapse.
Why would it? They'd just be poor as fuck.

>I'm not going to assume that the 3rd world is "just like us"
But you'll assume they'll keep on growing at the rate they are?

>I also DON'T want them to modernize or urbanize at all, because that just means more people.
Not what I think, I think it will lead to stable populations. When you have a better developed healthcare system, you can be more sure that your offspring survives. You don't need to go for more pregnancies to make sure you pass on your genes.

>They're the primary source of problems
Sure but people can choose to have less kids on their own.

[Anonymous No.12465223]

>>12465180
>Larger nations
Like India, China, and America being colonized by Europe. Each of which had a native population far outstripping that of Europe?

Having people invest in a country helps it develop. But colonialism wasn't about investing in countries to make them self-sufficient unless they were primarily European like the North American colonies. Colonialism was about resource acquisition and hasn't changed. It's not just about stripping of resources, although there are many places that have had their resources absolutely raped by foreign powers. It's about the fact for the last 100 years of industrialized colonialism there has been an emphasis on ensuring that other countries do not gain autonomy to the point of not giving the most favorable economic deals to the countries colonizing them. This is why we had Dole death squads and the CIA inside every election we were economically interested in. Hell, finding oil in the middle east was probably the worst possible thing that could have happened to them.

Trying to call people whose countries are literally economically enslaved to foreign interests locusts rings false. Their countries aren't the ones sapping resources from the rest of the world. If you want to bring up the money being fed to Africa as aid I would like to remind you that most of that is used as bribes and pocketed by fundraisers. The actual amount of money used to invest in infrastructure is abysmally small.

And why do you deserve to be spared?

[Anonymous No.12465230]

>>12465203
"Who should have food?" said the locust,
"Those who travel out and use the food to grow and change, or those that simply live there?"

I was arguing what behaviour was more akin to a locust. Going out to seize foreign resources for personal gain is locust like. Shifting goal posts won't change that.

[Anonymous No.12465240]

>>12463483
Oooooooooooor... we could sterilize a couple africans

[Anonymous No.12465262]

>>12465204
>Why would it? They'd just be poor as fuck.
And so would we.

> I think it will lead to stable populations
Of more people. I don't want more people, even if it's stable. I don't want a stable global population of 15 fucking billion.

>Sure but people can choose to have less kids on their own
They can, but they don't.

>>12465223
>Colonialism was about resource acquisition
Does not change the fact that the local population was, and is, provided with schools, hospitals, and the training to help facilitate that resource extraction.

>Trying to call people whose countries are literally economically enslaved to foreign interests locusts rings false.
Except it doesn't, because they are ALSO locusts. They're an overbloated population far above their local carrying capacity, which in turn is caused by the remaining effects of colonialism and now primarily international aid, and as such they emmigrate as much as possible to 1st world nations, which in turn drive the standard of living down there.

3rd worlders ARE locusts.

I've already professed my disagreement with the practice of colonialism, as it just feeds the same system of economic growth.

>Their countries aren't the ones sapping resources from the rest of the world.
No, their people are.

>And why do you deserve to be spared?
Because I reject your myth of equality.

[Anonymous No.12465300]

>>12465262
>And so would we.
No, they would get screwed over by having lots of kids.

>I don't want a stable global population of 15 fucking billion.
Why? Can Earth not support that?

>They can, but they don't.
They do. And countries that are poor now will do the same when they get richer. Suppose you are a photographer taking pictures of something and you're not sure how many pictures will develop. Won't you take lots of pictures of the same thing? Once technology improves and you can be certain every picture will developed, you will cut out the redundancy.

[Anonymous No.12465311]

>>12465262
Being provided the bare minimum to extract resources and then having your government overthrown if you try to advance further isn't exactly a great place to be.

So you admit at least that the practices of colonialism are in essence locust like behaviour? I do agree that unrestrained immigration does lead to a locust like effect. But the solution involves a global effort due to the fact that foreign countries are still currently supressing their governments and ability to evolve their countries for resources.

Our current standard of living relies on us economically colonizing a good chunk of the world using our military as a backing. The US dollar is, in reality, tied to our military not to any resource we actually have.

Their people should be taking resources from their own countries, and yet they can't because it's all been earmarked for foreign powers or their entire country is so war torn so those foreign powers can mantain economic superiority. Not saying that's the only reason cause many people can fuck up a country on it's own just fine, but that is a large reason for the current state. Not to mention the coming climate refugees who will be moving from countries that are literally made inhospitable in the coming years.

I never said anything about equality, I asked why you deserve not to be killed for your ideologies goals. The exact opposite of equality.

[Anonymous No.12465317]

>>12465300
>No, they would get screwed over by having lots of kids.
And so would we, because their kids move to 1st world nations, as has been going on for decades. This is the crux of the issue.

>Why? Can Earth not support that?
Who cares if it can or can't? Why are you trying for the maximum stable population in the first place? It's utterly psychotic, when you could have a population a fraction of the size with superior quality of life.

>They do. And countries that are poor now will do the same when they get richer.
You THINK they will, and it doesn't even matter if they're confirmed to, because that still runs counter to the problem of: 1) too many people in the first place, and 2) global economic collapse from under the weight of immigration before 3rd world countries stabilize, all the while they're still pushing out emigrants.

[Anonymous No.12465332]

>>12465311
>So you admit at least that the practices of colonialism are in essence locust like behaviour?
No, I don't, but it supports rampant capitalism which is locust like. Colonialism and exploitation is perfectly fine if it's to support an existing stable population, but NOT to feed an ever growing economy.

>Their people should be taking resources from their own countries, and yet they can't because it's all been earmarked for foreign powers or their entire country is so war torn so those foreign powers can mantain economic superiority.
No, they shouldn't; they should be left to starve and regress to the pre-industrial societies they're supposed to be.

>I asked why you deserve not to be killed for your ideologies goals
And I already answered you. I am willing to die for it, but not to be killed for it. There is a difference, and you have consistently implied the latter.

[Anonymous No.12465361]

>>12465332
You do realize that the only way to stabilize our current level of consumption involves the exploitation of foreign countries. Hence the whole bug thing. We can't support our current lifestyle without directly colonizing and acquiring human capital and resources at sub-market prices for the US. Even if a locust population is stable as it tears through the country side as a massive swarm it is still a locust.

You want to reduce the human population to less than an eighth of its current level. Your only reasoning why you shouldn't be a part of the 7 who get removed is that you are willing to die killing other people but not sacrifice yourself for the greater good of your cause if you are found unworthy.

[Anonymous No.12465376]

You are what you eat

[Anonymous No.12465378]

>>12465317
>And so would we, because their kids move to 1st world nations, as has been going on for decades. This is the crux of the issue.
Well, they would have access to much better natal care over here. Their birth rates would slow down, absent welfare etc.

>Who cares if it can or can't? Why are you trying for the maximum stable population in the first place?
I'm not trying for it. I think people should be free to make their own decisions but the strain on resources should be priced in.

>You THINK they will, and it doesn't even matter if they're confirmed to, because that still runs counter to the problem of: 1) too many people in the first place, and 2) global economic collapse from under the weight of immigration before 3rd world countries stabilize, all the while they're still pushing out emigrants.
I don't know, mate. I think we'll have a fine auld time.

[Anonymous No.12465380]

>>12465193
Yeah both processed as a food supplement and cosmetic product
Which increases their price by a huge margin compared to other
>dude, just kill, clean, and fry

[Anonymous No.12465385]

>>12465361
>You do realize that the only way to stabilize our current level of consumption involves the exploitation of foreign countries.
No, it isn't, it's just that exploiting foreign countries is the most economically profitable.

>We can't support our current lifestyle without directly colonizing and acquiring human capital and resources at sub-market prices for the US.
Not in the way our economic systems are currently set up, no. Can we achieve a similar quality of life without causing an influx of 3rd world locusts? Absolutely.

>You want to reduce the human population to less than an eighth of its current level. Your only reasoning why you shouldn't be a part of the 7 who get removed is that you are willing to die killing other people but not sacrifice yourself for the greater good of your cause if you are found unworthy.
Because I'm not one of the seven who are the problem, which is why I keep saying "I reject your myth of equality". People are not equal. People are not worth the same. One less Canadian is not the same as one less Indian.

[Anonymous No.12465406]

>>12465385
Then tell me how we would do that hm? What magical mechanism can we use to ensure everyone can get their 1$ dildos and steaks every night without importing massive amounts of foreign resources and labour?

Yeah, one less Canadian would reduce the burden on the globe by a much larger margin then one less Indian. Just saying I'm perpetuating a myth of equality doesn't mean I am. All I was doing was trying to ask why you are worth more than the bottom 7/8ths of humanity. So far you haven't given me much beyond the fact that you are canadian and willing to die killing people but not for the principles you espouse if they find you wanting. The pigs would enjoy eating you after the horses have gone to the glue factory

[Anonymous No.12465407]

>>12465378
>Well, they would have access to much better natal care over here. Their birth rates would slow down, absent welfare etc.
It doesn't matter; here's an example for you.

1st generation immigrant family moves here; has 6, maybe 8 kids.
Of those kids, now 2nd generation, they have 3, maybe 4 kids.
Of those kids, now 3rd generation, they're down to 1, maybe 2 kids.

All good, right? They've integrated and are now at replacement rate? Those 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants aren't the problem; the problem is that, all the while they're integrating, MORE 1st generation immigrants are immigrating and having 8 kids. Every year, hundreds of thousands of immigrants arrive. All of them have kids.

The next year, hundreds of thousands more immigrants arrive.
The year after that, the same.

The problem isn't intermittent pulses of immigrants, the problem is a continuous flow from nations that are simultaneously replenishing their own stock.

>I think people should be free to make their own decisions but the strain on resources should be priced in.
People making their own decisions is what got us into this mess.

[Anonymous No.12465424]

the wealthy who rule over the good market positions have not thought of the overpopulation question. They like to take opinions from message board addicts. Hopefully some people on 4chan or reddit will post opinions.

[Anonymous No.12465443]

>>12465407
>People making their own decisions is what got us into this mess.
I would say they were making uninformed decisions. Schooling is free in a lot of countries, for example. People are not having to live with the consequences of their own choices.

>example
If people move to another country and have lots of kids, won't their kids suffer? In other words, won't the consequences of their actions be contained? We won't suffer but they will.

[Anonymous No.12465451]

>>12465406
>Then tell me how we would do that hm? What magical mechanism can we use to ensure everyone can get their 1$ dildos and steaks every night without importing massive amounts of foreign resources and labour?
I don't know, investing in local and national industry, maybe? Stop importing so many foreigners so we don't need to constantly ramp up food production? Focus more on sustainable and recyclable industry so those $1 dildos don't waste valuable resources? Transitioning to nuclear instead of relying on coal, gas, and oil would be a major help.

There's no one major fix, but a multitude of changes that can't, won't, be brought about so long as globalism is profitable.

The west has ALL the resources, infrastructure, and technology it needs to transition to being entirely self-sufficient.

> All I was doing was trying to ask why you are worth more than the bottom 7/8ths of humanity.
Because I am, and people like me are. Because if everyone in my camp disappeared, humanity's progress and knowledge would be set back by centuries, if not millenia.

If all of Indian, or China, or Africa disappeared; well, we'd go through a bit of a rough spot economically and then stabilize in a few decades.

>Yeah, one less Canadian would reduce the burden on the globe by a much larger margin then one less Indian.
And one Canadian provides a much, much larger benefit to the globe than his consumptive weight in Indians.

[Anonymous No.12465469]

>>12465443
>If people move to another country and have lots of kids, won't their kids suffer? In other words, won't the consequences of their actions be contained? We won't suffer but they will.
Individuals and families are not atomic, separated and isolated from wider society, and the suffering of some is a burden to all. That continuous influx of immigrants and their eight children puts a straining on healthcare, goods, services, and industry that is acutely felt by the entire nation in sufficient numbers, especially when those very same immigrants are supported by welfare.

One immigrant family having too many kids doesn't affect me. A hundred thousand of them with enough money among them to drive up the demand, and thus cost, of goods and services does, not to mention the money coming out of me and my family's pockets to support their welfare.

[Anonymous No.12465485]

>>12465469
>puts a straining on healthcare, goods, services, and industry
Why? If they don't have the money, they won't be able to buy.

>A hundred thousand of them with enough money among them to drive up the demand
But they won't have the money, they'll just live in penury.

>support their welfare
Well, that's a problem of welfare, not population.

[Anonymous No.12465493]

>>12465451
>Ramp up food production
Idk about Canucks but the US feeds a good chunk of the world. Beyond that we can invest all we want but the reason those dildos are so cheap is because Min Xi is being paid pennies a day to make them. Try to get a US worker to do that and it'll cost minimum wage at least making the dildo far far far more expensive. But you speak of different strategies, but you speak as though they won't require extensive sacrifices. Such as, perhaps, losing steak.

I didn't ask about "people in your camp" I asked about you. You are not the people you want to be associated with. You are not worth more than the Indian woman who has spent her life caring for the poor or the Chinese man who got his PhD in nuclear physics and researched fusion technology. You might find better Samaritans and scientists in Canada, but I didn't ask about Canada. I asked about you. Why are you better than 7/8ths off humanity and are thus free from getting purged?

[Anonymous No.12465495]

you vill eat ze bugs

[Anonymous No.12465500]

>>12465485
you're dumb. you don't deserve a response.

[Anonymous No.12465508]

>>12465500
Just eat the fucking bugs, okay?

[Anonymous No.12465522]

>>12465495
Bug eating predated the Jews.
If ever, it's the Jews who eradicated it from western culture

[Anonymous No.12465528]

>>12463551

It's definitely this. Poor presentation and sperggery

[Anonymous No.12465532]

>>12464234
This applies to almost every group of people, ever. Not specific to Jews at all.

[Anonymous No.12465535]

don't we use bugs for like food coloring and shellac?

[Anonymous No.12465536]

>>12464951
Actually dipshit, all the methane is formed from carbon and hydrogen made in stars, so stars are the biggest source of methane.

See how annoying pedants like you are?

[Anonymous No.12465549]

>>12465522
listen to this shabboth goy fellow humans, he knows his stuff !

[Anonymous No.12465558]

>>12465549
Correct
For I study the history of the greatest enslavers of the jewkins

[Anonymous No.12465563]

>>12465558
you vill be happy

[Anonymous No.12465588]

>>12464978
Who cares about protein per 100g?
That just means bugs have less water in them.

[Anonymous No.12465592]

>>12465493
>You are not worth more than the Indian woman who has spent her life caring for the poor
Yes I am, because caring for the poor is a root cause of these problems. She is part of the problem.

>or the Chinese man who got his PhD in nuclear physics and researched fusion technology
Yes I am, because the Chinese do not invent. They steal and cheat.

>Why are you better than 7/8ths off humanity and are thus free from getting purged?
Because I believe in rule of law, I put meaningful existence over supporting endless throngs, I pay my taxes, and I am a good citizen. That alone puts me over half my countrymen, let alone the rest of the world.

The fact that you're holding up paragons of struggle as exmplars of the poor 3rd worlders belays your bias; for every genuinely good person, there are a thousand more who eat, shit, breed, and die, without even the common decency of being good citizens about it.

And even if it weren't then yes, sure, I'd be fine caught in the purge. But it's not, and I'm not, because if I were part of the 3rd world, lower class scum this purge would catch, I wouldn't be educated enough to even think depopulation is necessary.

[Anonymous No.12465608]

>>12465532
Yes, but its a meme image fitting the situation

[Anonymous No.12465625]

>>12465532
Nah, it pretty succintly fits Jews the most.

[Anonymous No.12465677]

>>12463434
>I will not eat the bugs.
Are you a man or a pussy? Real men eat whatever is nutritious.

[Anonymous No.12465930]

>>12465592
Damn, you really are just a racist nutter at this point. You are literally applying your bias so hard that even in the knowledge that these people who have objectively contributed more to the worlds good then you, still you are on top.

You will fight when the billionaires call for you. The elites shall call for death on the dead weight and you will deal it not even realizing you are part of the chaff to be cut. Enjoy the freedom of the farm while it lasts. Enjoy.

[Anonymous No.12465940]

>>12465930
a lot of CONSUUUUUUUUMERS really do believe they're "contributing to humanity" simply by consuming. its kindof become a fucked up religion at this point

[Anonymous No.12465954]

>>12463483
You're ALREADY eating the bugs, anon...

[Anonymous No.12465965]

I feel bad for all the kids who have grown up without understanding the phrase "you are what you eat"

[Anonymous No.12466075]

>>12465954
4 RODENT HAIRS!?!??!?!?

[Anonymous No.12466603]

>>12465144
>Algae
>Plant

[Anonymous No.12466747]

>>12463665
>insectivorous countries like Cambodia and Thailand.
You claim you're Asian yet you don't know that that aspect of their culture only arose because of mass famine, just like in Vietnam and south east China. Cambo's and Thais owe a huge percentage of their wealth to tourism and show up this aspect of their cultures to wow tourists. When not in famines Viets and Cantos will almost entirely choose actual pig or chicken over insects.

The problem with western meat is that they only eat muscular tissue and only eat organ meat if they're old, or having a specific country holiday. Organ meat is extremely nutritionally dense, so much so that people can overdose on specific organs (liver meat and B12).

Eating bugs is a radicle and unnecessary step, that has clearly not taken into account potential options. Namely integrating more organ meat into the mostly muscular meat diet. Not only does this cut down on how many animals are being killed, as more of it is being used. It guarantees that the animals being slaughtered are healthy and haven't accumulated dangerous material inside them, as this would be more evident in organ meat.

[Anonymous No.12467025]

>>12466747
Except that's false
It is true that insect meat is considered for poor people because it costs 1/10 of red meat but saying that we do it simply because of tourists is absolutely absurd. What the fuck
Every single indigenous tribe here dines on a diet of insect and has been a part of our culture before, during, and after the colonization era.

And mind you. We ALSO eat internal organs from animals. And not just organs but also head, snout, nose, ears, tails, etc. All sold as street food to holiday food - not a part wasted because we aren't a bunch of pussies.

Alternative methods are fine and all but saying that insects, or any other alternative sources of food are unecessary is just plain idiotic. A diversity in food source is vital lest another potato famine happened

Iirc, the most popular banana from the 1800's went extinct because it was so monocultured a single disease wiped them out.

[Anonymous No.12467197]

>It's 2021 soon
>The biggest pandemic in History started because of the fucking Meat Industry
>Biodiversity crisis exists because of the... fucking meat industry

>Still eating meat

Please go vegan, stop being retarded

[Anonymous No.12467263]

DRINK THE ROACH MILK

[Anonymous No.12467287]

>>12463404
Who else tryed...
Bugs
Snails
Brain
Raw meat
Raw fish
Going vegan
Anyhow thanks to my expertice i can tell you to avoid...
English food,
American food,
German food,
everything east from Germany
What you should eat is Italian, Greek and France cuisine!!!

[Anonymous No.12467292]

>>12467287
Try Indonesian and Indian.
They are the spice capital of the world for a long time and still are
>hurr 3rd world country
Read the recipe and cook it yourself.

[Anonymous No.12467295]

>>12467197
Sorry, I am vegetarian
I eat fish, cheese, bugs, and eggs

[Anonymous No.12467320]

>>12464373

>>nuke 90% of China and India's respective urban landmasses

I like the way you think, Chief. MacArthur should've nuked them cunts when he had the chance.

[Anonymous No.12467333]

>>12467197
Going vegan isn't solving anything unfortunately. We need strong politics to jump in and just end this madness.
I think it's better to support local farmers who treat their cattle etc right. There's one farmer a bit far way from me who offers rare pig meat to keep biodiversity up a bit. I think these people should see more support.

>>12467295
Then you're an ovo-lacto-pescetarian, not vegetarian.

[Anonymous No.12467335]

>>12467263
What's the difference to zuzzling cow nipples?

[Anonymous No.12467340]

>>12463492
Imagine being this much of a retarded plebbitor

[Anonymous No.12467385]

>>12467340
Imagine being this much of a pussy

[Anonymous No.12467492]

>>12467197
When I was working for the farming sector, each season I'd have to kill about 150 birds for the 4 hectare fruit orchard. So about 1 bird is shot for every 50kg of fruit, after accounting for spoiling and rejecting blemished fruits, I'd say about 35kg actually reaches the market. Besides that there's lane mowing and rodent baiting.

On the other hand animal grazing can integrate natural revegetating techniques in their off seasons, which can provide habitat to small field dwelling animals. The grazing done by most domestic animals is arguably less invasive than lane mowing, allowing native animals to migrate to different pastures.

What I'm ultimately saying is the majority of the fruit sector isn't free from animal/environmental destruction, as much as people like to preach it as the more moral choice for food. In some cases animal grazing is less environmentally damaging than fruit farming, especially given that there isn't much change geographic/soil biota before and after grazing takes place comparative to orchard farming.

As a completely cherry-picked, worse case outcome; 1 bird dies for 35kg of fruit, and 1 cow dies for 200kg of meat[1]. If the value of all higher order chordates life is equal then you should eat beef. If the life of a bird and a cow are not the same, then under what metric should life be weighed against another, life span, intelligence, propensity to for communal group, how endangered they are?

[1] Oklahoma Department of Agriculture

[Anonymous No.12467574]

>>12467025
All the bugs sold in your country are wild caught, this will become increasingly difficult to do as farming and pesticide use increases. Ultimately concentrating pesticides in people that subsist off bugs, then people will turn to the cleaner meats, like pork and chicken, that subsist off grains and flack.

What is being mocked isn't eating bugs, it's the fact an entire market will be created in the west that is sustained out of sheer guilt for harming animals, or the promise of a better environment. I'm just proposing a more efficient implementation of current systems before trying to invent a competing market.

>snout, nose, ears, tails
There's the eating of incredibly dense organ meat then there's this, all these parts mentioned are almost entirely skin, cartilage, and bone. They're even less nutritionally dense than muscular tissue.

Calling for diversity of food in acceptable, but why does it have to be widely different, all you have to do to break up the mono-culture in animals is to raise different breeds and shuffle in some wild-types. Like how they're crossing Hawaiian feral chickens with domestics to increase disease and pest resistance. You can even raise chickens, ducks and turkeys together, they're all Galliformes.

The potato famine and banana monoculture are completely different, namely that bananas are all cloned from a mother stock rather than separate plants that have grown from seed. The potato famine almost occurred exactly the same way, because they were just old potatoes thrown into the ground. Compounded with the fact that Oliver Cromwell was trying to settle North Ireland with subsistence farmers. Who mainly farmed wheat, the money crop, and potato on the off seasons, the food stock they subsisted on. It was basically bound to fail.

[Anonymous No.12467602]

>>12467574
ur mum was bound to fall on me cock

[Anonymous No.12467606]

>>12467574
Cuter animals have more value.
That's why the nips have more value than you, Solomon.

[Anonymous No.12467621]

>>12467574
No. All insects here are farmed in small independent farms. You'd think that the local street vendor who sell kilos of it everyday also has to hunt it in the wild? lol no

If you are afraid that bug farming would take over because a marketing strategy of "think of the poor animals" would definitely kill it, then you can kindly go fuck yourself, sir. A free market does not care about your feelings. The animal industry is so full of cruelty that plenty of butchers suffer from ptsd with as much as 90% unable to last a marriage.
Bugs are great because they causes no sympathy

It HAS to be wildly different because is what diversity really is all about, duffus. Different breeds are not going to get you far when the idea of cross-mutated strain happened...which happened so many times already because most of our meat sources are mammals or close to it.

Eat bugs.
They are cheaper, healthier, better for the environment, and requires no animal right.

Any argument is just a pussytalk

[Anonymous No.12467632]

We will be having a discussion with you and your planet for your cute ideas.

[Anonymous No.12467637]

>>12463580
>less fat
Confirmed for mow I got shit about dietary needs

[Anonymous No.12467642]

>>12467637
Dietricians say bugs are better than red meat. Ecologically, economically, and dietarily

[Anonymous No.12468173]

>>12467642

>Dietricians say bugs are better than red meat

Funny. Why aren't they eating the BUGS then?

[Anonymous No.12468318]

>>12467621
What are you angry at me, just for calling out your snout, nose, ears, tails eating? C'mon, I'm being incredibly generous giving my time of day to some bug eating third world weeaboo, that thinks Corona is a bioweapon.

You didn't even address any of my points, like how raising Galliformes is a perfectly reasonable idea, they're not even a model organism for any human analogs. Even the examples of potato famine and bananas was extremely biased towards monoculture.

>As much as 90% unable to last a marriage
Why would butchers even suffer PTSD, it's not like they're working in a abattoir. The carcasses that arrive at the butcher don't even have any blood or organs in it. If they're as mentally unstable as you say they are then how come so many are able to interact with the public on a regular basis. I've looked everywhere and I can't find a single source, you just pulled that out of thin air.

>marketing strategy of "think of the poor animals"
Like you already stated, you're not from a western country, so of course you wouldn't know about the environmentally conscious movement that's been gaining mainstream attention since the '70's. If being conscious of animals in the west doesn't exist then what is veganism predicated on.

>It HAS to be wildly different because is what diversity really is all about.
But you won't accept reasonable diversity like different Galliformes, where they'll at least cohabitate with each other and eat mostly the same diet. You believe they have to be as diverse as possible, then why stop at the Animalia why not go even further to Plantae and become a vegan? If it's a matter of protein then just eat beans.

>cross-mutated strain
Why would they be crossed, viruses can't have sex, you can only cross organisms that can breed. Why are they crossed and mutated, both at the same time, what on earth are you on about?

>Any argument is just a pussytalk
Is this just slang for you giving up because you don't have a leg to stand on?

[Anonymous No.12468336]

>>12468318
>Why would they be crossed, viruses can't have sex, you can only cross organisms that can breed. Why are they crossed and mutated, both at the same time, what on earth are you on about?
Not that anon and I think he's a retard but viruses CAN cross strains, it's how a lot of influenza pandemics get started

[Anonymous No.12468346]

>>12468173
sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar

[Anonymous No.12468404]

How low will living standards have to be pushed until people make the very naughty discovery that their living standards would rise back up if world population was to suddenly drastically lower? When will the leaders who suggest just that start appearing?

[Anonymous No.12468512]

>>12464180
I'm going to shoot you in your stupid brain and smile about it.

[Anonymous No.12468656]

Hey, I like bugs you god damn troll. Eating them is just as wrong as eating animals; they're alive too. Either you peddle a non living food source or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.12468774]

>>12465677
>Leftists talking about masculinity
Das right goyims you're not a real men if you don't suck establishment kosher dick.

[Anonymous No.12468890]

>>12468318
>There was a clear and significant difference, however, between farmers and meatworkers on propensity-for-aggression (AQ) scores, suggesting that occupation type within the overall class of primary industry had a significant effect
on propensity for aggression. Specifically, those employed as meatworkers had
substantially higher AQ scores than farmers (with the largest differences seen
within the Physical Aggression and Hostility subscales). Worthy of note is the
fact that these meatworker overall AQ and PA scores are high and are similar
to some reported for incarcerated populations of both genders (e.g., Williams,
Boyd, Cascardi, & Poythress, 1996). Not only does this provide some support
408 E. Richards et al. / Society & Animals 21 (2013) 395-413
for assertions by Dillard (2008) about the potential psychological damage
done to employees within meat processing plants (e.g., due to constant exposure to violence and the type of institutional climate present), it also corresponds well with Fitzgerald et al.’s (2007) findings of a differential effect on
violent crime rates by employment within a meat processing facility. This is
clearly an area in need of further investigation, as it has implications not only
for the welfare of individuals (both human and nonhuman), but for the communities that surround such facilities (and that presumably supply the labor
for them).

Yes, destroy the meat industry because it's not just animal abuse. Meatworkers are suffering because it is one thing to butcher an animal and it is another to butcher them enmass in a high-stress environment surrounded by absolutely nothing but carcasses

I couldn't careless if you are disgusted. Eat the bug, you wuss puss.

Oh yes, the more diversity in food sources the better. I'll wholeheartedly welcome other food sources so long as they are cheap, healthy, good for the environment, and taste good.
Couldn't care less if it's plant or bacteria-culture. Diversity is good.

[Anonymous No.12468918]

>>12464388
>mindless violence being a solution to anything
found the caveman

[Anonymous No.12468930]

>>12468318
And you are forgetting that almost all of the lastest epidemic and pandemic were cross mutated from birds, pigs, animals, rats, and bats

Cross mutated strain from insect to humans are possible but I haven't heard of such a thing yet.

[Anonymous No.12468942]

>>12464914
you are stupid beyond belief

[Anonymous No.12468959]

>>12463611
>the answer is fish
Enjoy your mercury poisoning idiot

[Anonymous No.12468968]

Tumor farming is superior.

[Anonymous No.12469064]

>>12465677
Exactly, and real men take it up the ass too, cause pleasure is pleasure.

[Anonymous No.12470153]

>>12463434
Incredibly antisemitic post

[Anonymous No.12470963]

>>12467197
>The biggest pandemic in History started because of the fucking Meat Industry
>Biodiversity crisis exists because of the... fucking meat industry
We are seeing history being rewritten in real time

[Anonymous No.12471600]

>Yes, I eat the bugs. How did you know?

[Anonymous No.12471612]

Uh, do some people seriously believe you need meat to build muscle?

[Anonymous No.12471668]

>>12468404
This. When large numbers of people are confronted with the choice between slurping cockroach milk on the one hand and normalizing human population to sustainable levels while eating actual food on the other, they will go with the latter, and correctly so.

[Anonymous No.12471793]

>>12471600
Actually insects are forbidden by the Torah, with exceptions to some species of locusts. If this man was following these texts then he would not be permitted to eat insects.

[Anonymous No.12471898]

YOU WILL EAT THE BUGS
YOU WILL OWN NOTHING
AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY

[Anonymous No.12472101]

>>12467492
Did the birds you killed graze? No, they didn't. They ate crops which where grown on fields. Why didn't you add those rodents and insects killed there?
All we are saying is, that it would be more efficient to grow food we can eat ourselves on those fields instead.

[Anonymous No.12472373]

you vill eat ze bugs
aund you vill be happy

[Anonymous No.12472606]

I eat maggots on rotten steak, they are good until they cover everything with maggoty froth. When you bite them they contract and are crunchy and if you eat a handful they are very flavorful. They taste like if you imagined bugs tasting really good. Someone told me tastes depends on what you feed them, I tried cultivating some on oats but they never got big enough for me to eat. I don't bother with small ones but I like the way they wiggle on your fingers and gums.

[Anonymous No.12472652]

>>12468959
There's not really so much mercury to worry about in fish mostly, and.even if you eat swordfish and such you can have no mercury toxicity by eating selenium (brazil nuts have a ton). Most fish already has selenium to balance it out.

[Anonymous No.12472952]

>>12464159
Because I'm a grown ass man living in an ostensibly free society and I don't want to. That's all the reason one should need.

[Anonymous No.12473001]

>>12472952
All I hear is "I'm a pussy"

[Anonymous No.12473024]

>>12471612
It's what's in the meat.

[Anonymous No.12473040]

>>12473001
Good for you - no one cares.

[Anonymous No.12473045]

>>12473040
Pussy

[Anonymous No.12473257]

you vill eat ze bugs

[Anonymous No.12473801]

>>12473001
Is this the nutritional equivalent of "REAL men LOVE strong independent women with attitude!"?

[Anonymous No.12473926]

>>12473801
No. You're just a pussy

[Anonymous No.12474976]

>>12472101
>Did the birds you killed graze?
Yes, the birds did """graze""" on the fruit in the orchard. This is the primary reason they were put on a permitted destruction listing, animals not listed cannot be legal destroyed. Your question is unclear, grazing is primarily a characteristic of rumulants, not frugivorious birds.

>Why didn't you add those rodents and insects killed there?
Then the number would be too high, and I would be accused of conflating the number of dead animals. Common rats, mice, and insects are considered pest animals by even the most radicle of animal lovers.

>it would be more efficient to grow food we can eat ourselves on those fields instead.
It would in no way be more efficient, elaboration on growing 1 genus of plants comparative to growing multiple genus of plants should be self evident in standardisation and automation.

[Anonymous No.12475001]

>>12463492
price of meat needs to go up, it's too cheap