mRNA Vaccines

[Anonymous No.12462594]

Every disease on Earth will be cured by mRNA vacccines within our lifetimes. We did it lads. Sim City 6 will have an mRNA lab bulding you get access to in 2020 that gives a health and life expendency boost to all humans and dromedaries.

[Anonymous No.12462608]

Beyond man imagine the applications to agriculture. All livestock diseases wiped out. A vaccine against methanogens to please the eco-warriors and end methane production.

[Anonymous No.12462621]

>>12462608
What could go wrong

[Anonymous No.12462631]

>>12462621
at this point fuck it

[Anonymous No.12462635]

>>12462621
Probably global dygenics as weaklings survive the diseases that should have killed them.

[Anonymous No.12462722]

>>12462594
Could this trigger the evolution of a "supervirus" like how antibiotics have triggered the rise of "superbacteria"?

[Anonymous No.12462864]

>>12462722
They'd just change the protein in the mRNA vaccine to express the new protein in the new "super"virus.

[Anonymous No.12462912]

Don't care still playing SimCity 4.

[Anonymous No.12462950]

I want to be optimistic about this vaccine. I’m not anti-science by any means
However this Bell’s Palsy certainly doesn’t seem like nothing. And yet you google it and it’s 10 articles about how Bell’s Palsy is nothing to worry about and the vaccine is 100% safe

It doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. I wish these news outlets weren’t so obsessed with setting a narrative. If the articles just clearly stated the percentage of people experience Palsy after taking the vaccine... I would feel a lot more comfortable taking it.
Instead the focus seems to be on minimizing or obfuscating any potential side effects instead of discussing them openly and rationally

[Anonymous No.12462965]

>>12462950
Go straight the technical lit then, page 38:
https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download

Bell’s palsy was reported by four vaccine participants and none in the placebo group. These cases occurred at 3, 9, 37, and 48 days after vaccination. One case (onset at 3 days postvaccination) was reported as resolved with sequelae within three days after onset, and the other three were reported as continuing or resolving as of the November 14, 2020 data cut-off with ongoing durations of 10, 15, and 21 days, respectively. The observed frequency of reported Bell’s palsy in the vaccine group is consistent with the expected background rate in the general population, and there is no clear basis upon which to conclude a causal relationship at this time, but FDA will recommend surveillance for cases of Bell’s palsy with deployment of the vaccine into larger populations. There were no other notable patterns or numerical imbalances between treatment groups for specific categories (system organ class or preferred term) of non-serious adverse events, including other neurologic, neuro-inflammatory, and thrombotic events, that would suggest a causal relationship to BNT162b2 vaccine.

[Anonymous No.12462983]

>>12462965
>none in the placebo group
>expected background rate in the general population
>no clear basis upon which to conclude a causal relationship
>none in the placebo group

[Anonymous No.12463025]

>>12462983
4 cases
21669 sample size
= 0.0001846% get Bell's palsy

328.6m Americans
*0.0001846%
= 60586 Bell's Palsy cases

Real world
>Bell’s palsy affects about 40,000 people in the United States every year.

Difference of 20586 cases
Therefore ~51% increase chance of getting Bell's palsy

[Anonymous No.12463046]

>>12463025
>placebo group: 0
>vaccine group: 4
>(you): 0 * 1.51 = 4

[Anonymous No.12463084]

>>12463046
There's 40,000 new Bell's palsy cases in the US each year dum dum, not zero.

[Anonymous No.12463132]

>>12463046
Background rate of Bell's palsy (40k/328m) means there should have been 2.64 cases in the 21,686 placebo group. Placebo underperfomed by -2.64, Vaccine overperformed by 1.36.

Conclusion = NOTHINGBURGER

[Anonymous No.12463165]

>>12462594
>life expendency
*life expectancy

[Anonymous No.12463186]

It's kind of weird how some people are more afraid of the vaccine than covid itself.

[Anonymous No.12463219]

>>12463165
Will be patched 6 months after launch.

[Anonymous No.12464989]

>>12462594
Shout out to Ribosomes

[Anonymous No.12464998]

>>12462631
kek chekd nd based and brave pilled

[Anonymous No.12465148]

>>12463132
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You can't use logic.

[Anonymous No.12465151]

>>12463219
kek

[Anonymous No.12465216]

I thought there was a problem with corona vaccines making people more susceptible to corona irus infection?

[Anonymous No.12465330]

>>12463186
>being afraid of a meme virus

[Anonymous No.12465548]

>>12462983
With those numbers it might as well be a coincidence dude

[Anonymous No.12465553]

>>12463025
you cannot draw any conclusions from four fucking cases lmao

[Anonymous No.12465570]

>>12465330
SARS-nCoV-2 being a meme is a meme. And not a funny one.

[Anonymous No.12465591]

>>12465570
> The estimated age-specific IFR is very low for children and younger adults (e.g., 0.002% at age 10 and 0.01% at age 25) but increases progressively to 0.4% at age 55

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v7

Unless you're old or obese, it's a flu.

[Anonymous No.12465880]

>>12465591
Imagine being almost a year into this shitshow and STILL arguing with deaths.
We have known since the beginning of March or even earlier that the death rate is irrelevant.
Face it. YOU are the meme.

[Anonymous No.12467305]

>>12465880
>We have known since the beginning of March or even earlier that the death rate is irrelevant.
Not that guy, and obviously I'm not an imbecile that considers Covid-19 as a light issue, but could you please elaborate on this? I'm obviously not an expert, but people tend to criticise the lockdowns, mask wearing or social distancing where I live given "the death rate is too low and that means it's just a flu", I always felt that this wasn't right, so why isn't death rate relevant here?

[Anonymous No.12467346]

>>12467305
I mean, it's not irrelevant, but it's by far not the most pressing issue. It's the high infectivity and high chance of causing post-infectious complications. The half-assed "lockdowns" are mainly supposed to do three things:
- avoid mutations (the more people have it, the higher the chance of it mutating. See for example what happened on the mink farm in Denmark)
- avoid too many people getting sick at once and disrupting the economy (up to six weeks recovery time, but two weeks of all employees being unavailable can seriously disrupt business for some companies)
- avoid hospitals becoming overblown with patients (hospitals here are taking in patients from abroad, our neighbors already hit full capacity)

[Anonymous No.12467483]

>>12467346
Mutations are random and most disable functionalities. It's statistically overwhelming to become less lethal. Viruses don't "want" to destroy their hosts, only propagate themselves.

The economy has already been disrupted to hell from lockdowns and remote work. Students are still getting shitty education through screens because the gerontocracy is afraid of a meme virus.

Many hospitals are facing financial problems, people aren't getting preventative care, mental illnesses are compounding from lockdowns, etc.

[Anonymous No.12467513]

>>12467483
>Mutations are random and most disable functionalities
>most
There's the problem. Infect enough people and you'll find bad ones.

>The economy has already been disrupted to hell from lockdowns and remote work.
How? It seems fine from here, apart from unfortunately a significant number of people losing their jobs. Who can apply for new jobs as soon as we do a real lockdown or get the vaccine.

>Students are still getting shitty education through screens
I don't think students have a problem. Pupils maybe.

>afraid of a meme virus.
I thought you said
>I'm not an imbecile that considers Covid-19 as a light issue
?
>mental illnesses are compounding from lockdowns
Mental illness rate lowered. In the west, hardly any country had a lockdown. France and Italy did.

From your arguments it would be best to have a strict lockdown for three weeks. It worked for Asia. Then we strictly trace people who get it and their contacts. Easy.

[Anonymous No.12468403]

>>12463186
I trust the science behind vaccines. They're an amazing tool that have done a lot of good for humanity in the past.
I don't trust the government and big pharma that currently are in absolute control of this science (which can AND has been used for harm before).
The media outlets, which have very openly become the left arm of the elites, constantly telling me how batshit insane I am for even daring to quesstion the people in charge doesn't give me a lot of confidence either.

[Anonymous No.12468407]

>>12463186
I've had a year to see that Covid's pretty much a joke. In a year, I'll evaluate the vaccine.

[Anonymous No.12468446]

>>12462631
>be game programmer
>get into gene editing
>"bugs will be fixed 6 months after launch!"

[Anonymous No.12470006]

>>12462608
>Beyond man imagine the applications to agriculture. All livestock diseases wiped out.

This was expressed before and now all our front-line antibiotics are failing.

Thanks you dumb, dumb meatheads

[Anonymous No.12470069]

>>12470006
mRNA vaccines are not antibiotics. If a diesease vector mutates then the mRNA vaccine will simply be changed to express the new protein and reteach the host immune system to target that. The age of disease is over, science has remade the Earth into a new Eden, sing gaudete.

[Anonymous No.12470757]

[Anonymous No.12470813]

>>12462912

Fuck it. Downloading.

[Anonymous No.12470820]

Why would I take a vaccine for a virus that doesn't kill 99.7% of people that it infects, when I'm a young adult with a working immune system that can manufacture its own antibodies of almost any geometry.

[Anonymous No.12470829]

>>12462950
Who cares? It’s literally nothing. Your face freezes for a few days and it goes away. Did your retarded ass look up what Bell’s palsy is? No of course not. It’s a disease that kills everyone

[Anonymous No.12470916]

>imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.12471003]

>>12470820
>killls 3 out of 1000
>1 in every 333.3
Ever been in a room of three hunred or so people? Been to a concert, party, or event with thousands of people? You're the one (of many) that dies.

You get the vaccine because the disease affects the public health and public authority dictates to you that you take it for the protection of the public.

[Anonymous No.12471025]

>>12470820
Its not a big deal. Its a shot in the arm doesn't hurt eat the bugs

[Anonymous No.12471029]

I got all the shots eat the bugs and am going to be first in line.

[Anonymous No.12471034]

>>12462594
>>12462594
So placebo looks much better because it goes through the roof, it can be expressed as y=x graph. While the red graph is really flat. It is y=n where n is a constant. Bad.