Austrian politician dips COVID strip in coca cola and turns out positive

[Anonymous No.12460184]

Now, I'm not about wether these tests are actually usefull or not but rather I just to see if someone can confirm or deny my hypotesis about why this happened.

Coca cola has a pH of 2.7, so what happened is that after exposing the strip to acid the antibodies changed conformation and and made the coloidal gold particles to precipitate turning making the test look like it was positive.

I ask mostly because I can't find any usefull information about what these strips are actually made of. I just find broad strokes about their fundamentals, but I can't find anything about what exactly precipitates to give a red colour and how precipitates exactly and I don't have any strips to simply test the hypothesis, so maybe heresomeone can tell me wether I'm wrong or right.

[Anonymous No.12460196]

Admittedly I know nothing about the chemistry of those blood tests but if you put something else than blood why should you expect correct results.
>insert joke about americans having coca cola in their blood stream

[Anonymous No.12460212]

>>12460196
Good point. But the fact remains that we still don't have a reliable COVID test.
I love how we developed a vaccine before developing a good test.

[Anonymous No.12460217]

>>12460184
you idiot, that's a pregnancy test.

[Anonymous No.12460260]

>>12460184
plot twist
someone with covid doctored his drink

[Anonymous No.12460264]

>>12460212
>But the fact remains that we still don't have a reliable COVID test.
What are you getting this "fact" from?

[Anonymous No.12460269]

>>12460196

The point of the politican was to say
>See? These tests trigger off with anything!
But, well, it wasn't scienitifical at all. He did not use a control like water nor a replication just in case one strip was bad and so on and so on... but I'm still curious if pH can give off a false positive or not.

[Anonymous No.12460286]

>>12460264
The FDA and the ACSH.
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory
https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/04/03/testing-covid-19-false-positives-negatives-14687

[Anonymous No.12460339]

>>12460286
Why don't you actually read those you stupid retard.

[Anonymous No.12460365]

>idiot convinces other idiots by doing something idiotic
>more at 12
The only remotely interesting thing here is it's Australia and the is only interesting to me because I live here and know our politicians are stupid enough to think this is a problem.

[Anonymous No.12460380]

>>12460196
Some covid tests, test for the cells/antibodies produced by your body as a response to the covid cells. So they're testing for the presence of natural antibodies, rather than covid cells themselves, because otherwise they would false positive with dead cells/husks

[Anonymous No.12461145]

>>12460184
>dip delicate scientific equipment into literal acid
>WTF BROS IT BROKE LOOK IT'S ALL A HOAX
What did he fucking think would happen? It's not a fucking space age iPhone equipped with Siri to distinguish between no covid, covid, and soda.

[Anonymous No.12461169]

>>12460184
>australians are this dumb
dipping tests strips into strange things give back faulty results. more news at 11.

[Anonymous No.12461176]

>>12460184
I see a lot of people in this thread calling this guy and people who think covid is overblown, and no one explaining why i wouldn't test positive if i just drank a whole bunch of coke.

[Anonymous No.12461183]

>>12460184 (OP)
I see a lot of obnoxious state zealots in this thread calling this guy and people who think covid is overblown idiots, and no one explaining why i wouldn't test positive if i just drank a whole bunch of coke.

[Anonymous No.12461190]

>>12461176
yeah everyone in this thread is too dumb to realize if you drink enough coke your blood turns into coke.

[Anonymous No.12461221]

>>12461190
oh its a blood test? not a saliva test? great, that's a start!!

[Anonymous No.12461222]

>>12461183
because that wouldnt significantly affect ph of your bloodstream, you nigger

[Anonymous No.12461248]

Whether or not his assertion is correct, the tests themselves have around a 60-70% success rate, meaning that we see 30-40% false positives. I've talked to a few people in labs back in May, they were worried that the numbers we see provided are overblown. That being said the virus and some of the dangers it presents are real, but the panic is manufactured to induce government intervention to create permanent authoritative control.

[Anonymous No.12461297]

>>12461248
>the tests themselves have around a 60-70% success rate, meaning that we see 30-40% false positives
the second part doesnt fucking follow from the first part

[Anonymous No.12461305]

>>12460184
this guy is retarded lol you don't normally have coca cola in your mouth / blood when you do the test

[Anonymous No.12461330]

>>12461248
>I've talked to a few people in labs back in May, they were worried that the numbers we see provided are overblown.
But these rapid tests are not used extensively. PCR is. They are not even close to having 30-40% false positve. How did they explain the numbers being overblown exactly?

[HolyTrinity !rzxclGwUHU No.12461332]

>>12345678

[Anonymous No.12461340]

>>12460184
His twitter feed has nothing more recent than 2019, and the YouTube link fails. Did this actually happen?

[Anonymous No.12461368]

>>12461222
>coke has no effect on the human body
we both know that isn't true.

[Anonymous No.12461385]

>>12461340
Found this video in German with Spanish subtitles no less. Looks like he did it in the parlament. What a fucking clown show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbp9P72N-xw&ab_channel=RadioRadioTV

[Anonymous No.12461399]

>>12461368
we dont know what causes this faulty test to happen. it could be the acidity of the coke could be something else. lets assume its the acidity of the coke. do you actually think the coke that you drink will change the acidity of snot in your nose to any great effect? no kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.12461411]

>>12460196
I am in awe at how fucking stupid the people on this board are every time I come here. You sir are so fucking stupid it defies belief

[Anonymous No.12461421]

>>12461411
Care to explain what's wrong with it? That's like claiming condoms don't work because vinegar melts through them.

[Anonymous No.12461427]

>>12461411
>>12460184
It's like arguing that water is explosive because it can be denatured into H2 gas and then combusted

[Anonymous No.12461432]

>>12461385
That's italian you fucking mutt

[Anonymous No.12461444]

>>12461432

[Anonymous No.12461449]

>>12461421
>something people all around the world consumes on a regular basis causes false positives on a "test" politicians are retarded as you are are using to shut down global economies and bankrupt people
Gee I dont fucking know it must be a real fucking mystery when you are retarded

>>12461427
No it isn't like that at all unless you are massively retarded

[Anonymous No.12461453]

>people confusing Austria and Australia in this thread

[Anonymous No.12461467]

>>12461453
welcome to /soi/

[Anonymous No.12461473]

>>12461449
>something people all around the world consumes on a regular basis causes false positives on a "test" politicians are retarded as you are are using to shut down global economies and bankrupt people
...what?
It's like claiming a carbon monoxide detector doesn't work because it malfunctions when you chuck it into a volcano.

[Anonymous No.12461485]

>>12461473
Volcanos proven to be a hoax pushed by Big Magma

[Anonymous No.12461495]

Typical big pharma scam. I did a urine test and it was positive for glucose. Did the same thing with coca cola and it was also positive
Hoax???

[Anonymous No.12461512]

>>12460184
US and eurpoean politicans are already idiots. I would only expect worse from austria. its amazing that humanity has survived this long given how stupid most of the world is.

[Anonymous No.12461520]

>>12461453
thats the joke

[Anonymous No.12461523]

>>12461449
>>something people all around the world consumes on a regular basis causes false positives on a "test" politicians are retarded as you are are using to shut down global economies and bankrupt people
I'd like to get more clarification on this. The claim was that it's an antibody blood test. If that's true, then first of all, using coca cola to disprove something is ridiculous. No one consumes enough coca cola that it will actually change their blood. Second of all, antibody tests aren't being used to shut down economies, that would be PCR and antigen tests. But let's just assume it's actually a PCR or antigen test. Those generally use nasal swabs. Are you snorting your coca cola?

[Anonymous No.12461536]

>>12461523
ssssh, dont question the premise

[Anonymous No.12461538]

>>12461495
Are you diabetic?

[Anonymous No.12461543]

>>12461538
Hell no. The tests are FAKE

[Anonymous No.12461547]

>>12461495
>I did a urine test and it was positive for glucose.
I'm assuming you're joking, but if not, you should see a doctor and having fasting glucose and A1C checked. Glucose doesn't end up in piss unless your levels are excessively high.

[Anonymous No.12461667]

>>12460365
It's Austria

[Anonymous No.12461708]

>>12461523
>Are you snorting your coca
Of course.

[Anonymous No.12461726]

>>12461667
Do you have peer reviewed article to back up that claim?

[Anonymous No.12461742]

>>12461495
kek. gems like this are why I browse this forsaken board.

[Anonymous No.12461766]

>>12460196
If there is no covid, you'd expect negative or at least inconclusive results.
I mean, it would be a dumb demonstration to take covid positive fluid, mix it with coca cola, then have the test come out negative.
But this demonstration is something else entirely as it shows the test can show positive when there no covid is present at all.
Again, not "negative". Not "inconclusive". "POSITIVE".
>>12460269
>>12460365
>>12461145
>>12461169
>>12461305
>>12461427
>>12461473
^shills on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.12461787]

>>12461667
source?

[Anonymous No.12461835]

>>12460286
Holy shit. Did you really just link a guide from the FDA in how to ensure the specificity and sensitivity.

It lists the actual stats and explains how to do the tests correct.

You can't honestly be this retarded right? Omegalol

[Anonymous No.12461843]

>>12461766
Prove there no covid

[Anonymous No.12461871]

>>12460184
blood has a ph around 7.4, coca cola has a ph of 2.3. of course it doesnt work

[Anonymous No.12461874]

>>12461330
PCR uses DNA primers that focus the polymerase on a specific spot in the genome - it's how the test "knows" whether a piece of DNA is there or not. If your primer sequence is too broad or the parameters of the assay (like annealing temperature, aka the temperature at which the primers stick to the DNA sequence) are off, you can get non-specific amplification that will result in false negatives. For instance, when using short primers, the chances of a partial match elsewhere in the genome is high. So the test developer will set the annealing temperature very high to make sure it can bind to only spots in the genome that are a perfect match to the primer sequence and only specific PCR amplification can occur.

Anyways, there's basically no proof that the primers used for their assay aren't cross-reacting with regular coronavirus DNA, which most people would test positive for several times per year. Has the primer sequence been published? Usually test companies can keep that secret until the test comes off-patent.

[Anonymous No.12461877]

>>12460269

Do you expect a politician to be good at or understand what good science is? Let alone know what the scientific process is?

>NO
Also I'd like to know how many labs or volunteers would have something of a low enough pH to actually 'trigger' a false positive.

>Also come the fuck on.
>MP dips test in substance with dodgy pH
>MP: THIS PROVES SOMETHING

Am a physics fag, someone explain if it is EVEN POSSIBLE for someone's blood to be of that low a pH, assuming his 'experiment' was done properly and is trustworthy.

[Anonymous No.12461879]

>>12461874
>false negatives
Typo, I meant to type false positives here

[Anonymous No.12461883]

>>12461877
>Am a physics fag, someone explain if it is EVEN POSSIBLE for someone's blood to be of that low a pH
The person with a blood pH that low would be dead.

[Anonymous No.12461885]

>>12461883
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.12461891]

>>12461877
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17154421/
Low pH is generally very destructive to antibodies. If this was caused by the indicator molecule precipitating out of solution - why isn't that occurring along the entire length of the capillary paper instead of precisely at that point?

[Anonymous No.12461893]

>>12461766
hear me out. It's a well-known effect of alcohol that when you drink it, it gets absorbed into your blood stream. Some of it diffuses into your lungs, and escapes your body when you breathe. The more alcohol in your blood, the more in your breath. Since a typical person has no other reason to have alcohol molecules in their breath, law enforcement can use breathalyzers to test your BAC.

But this test also shows positive in cases where your BAC isn't high, doesn't it? If for example you take a swish of mouthwash as the police car pulls you over. Does that mean the test is trash? Or does it just mean the test has caveats and won't produce correct results if the correct conditions aren't maintained?

[Anonymous No.12461896]

>>12461145
>delicate scientific equipment
It's a mass-produced antigen indicator strip, analogous to a pregnancy test. They're single use and intended to be disposable.

[Anonymous No.12461898]

>>12461877
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_acidosis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_acidosis
literally cnditions where ph below ~7.3 is a problem and 7.1 is considered severe
>It is often associated with poor prognosis, with a mortality rate as high as 57% if the pH remains untreated at 7.20.

[Anonymous No.12461910]

>>12460196
Good post. What the heck is the moron in OP supposed to be proving?

[Anonymous No.12461914]

>>12461893
Sure, but replace "alcohol" with "covid-19" and your analogy makes zero sense:
>If for example you take a swish of (fluid containing covid-19) as the police car pulls you over

[Anonymous No.12461916]

>>12461874
>Has the primer sequence been published? Usually test companies can keep that secret until the test comes off-patent.
I swear to God. Have you heard of something called google?

[Anonymous No.12461919]

>>12461495
>coca cola tests positive for hemoglobin

[Anonymous No.12461924]

>>12461916
Has it nigger?

[Anonymous No.12461934]

>>12460196
So if it's so easily spoiled then what does that say about the accuracy of the test results when they're putting them up your nose? They might be thrown off by any number of contaminants.

[Anonymous No.12461950]

>>12461924
Have you not checked? Are you just arguing a strawman?

[Anonymous No.12461967]

>>12461934
>easily spoiled
By a pH way outside human norms? Come on.

[Anonymous No.12461985]

>>12461934
>when they're putting them up your nose?
They don't. They take a drop of blood from your finger.

[Anonymous No.12462005]

>>12460184
>covid test aren't good at telling if a glass of coke has covid
what did he mean by this?
>tampons aren't good at sealing pneumatic pumps

[Anonymous No.12462085]

>>12461914
Don't be daft. The point of an analogy isn't to be literal, just to highlight a way of thinking. Breathalyzers could also produce erroneous positive results for other reasons. Notably they are meant to detect ethanol intoxication but will trip on other alcohols present in even ethanol-free mouthwash.

[Anonymous No.12462123]

>>12461985
the one i got went way the fuck up my nose while the nurse reached around and told me to cough

[Anonymous No.12462236]

>>12462123
That was a PCR to see if you had an active infection, right? Supposedly the test we're talking about is for antibodies, which would be a blood draw to detect a prior infection.

[Anonymous No.12462252]

>>12460212
> the fact remains that we still don't have a reliable test
Double digits aren't allowed to post here. Please go back
>>12460365
Lern2reed you fucking bogan.