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Scientifically speaking, has the intelligence gap between American academia and the working class always been this large? It seems like the average American is less intelligent now than ever before, yet at the same time increasingly complicated and groundbreaking research is coming out of places like MIT, Stanford etc.

>> No.12439095

>>12439090
No, it was larger before the android takeover.

>> No.12439096

>>12439090
>It seems like the average American is less intelligent now than ever before
its just more noticeable now that you have the internet and can see how blacks and honorary blacks act. the disparity has become larger because the upper classes have become smarter, but the lower classes remain dumb.

>> No.12439099

>>12439096
Are you really telling me the average American frontiersman in 1820 was less intelligent than these "people"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuutVwxHhis&feature=share
Agree about the blacks tho

>> No.12439104

The pace of innovation never skipped a beat even through the great depression

>> No.12439115

>>12439099

Not him but of course the average white frontiersman was smarter than today's pampered, feral niggers. I don't read the post you replied to as suggesting otherwise, and I wonder how you took it that way (it must be largely bound up with the latter clause). I think you read-in the notion that ol' whitey Oregon Trail man who took his whole family's life in his hands is dumber/equal to today's horde, when the post you replied to can't be parsed that way.

I realize that I ought to have watched the video you posted for full context, but the thumbnail showed some badly dressed fat sow so I don't care to do even that.

>> No.12439161

>>12439115
>the lower classes remain dumb
implies that the lower class has always been as retarded as it is now, which is what I'm objecting to. I know that average IQ is dropping because of blacks/mexis, but I'd be curious to find out to what extent average white IQ is dropping as well.

>> No.12439177

>>12439090
America is the product of Europe's overflow population, it's where they dumped all the whites too stupid to make it in European society at the time (and Jews because muh persecution and holocaust). Australia is the same but with a lot more criminals. Of course it was only a matter of time before the Jews took over in America.

>> No.12439237

>>12439090
>Hey, look fat people!
kys

>> No.12439267

>>12439237
fatty detected

>> No.12439276

Why are Republicans so dumb?

>> No.12439326

>>12439090
>groundbreaking research is coming out of places like MIT, Stanford etc.
Done by foreigners.

>> No.12439330

>>12439237
>projection
Eat less. Exercise.

>>12439276
It's not just republicans.

>> No.12439381

I’m a data scientist in the private sector, with an education in economics. My professors included the chair at the AEI and cabinet members of the Reagan presidency. Academia is no smarter now—in fact, the data indicates to the contrary. Not only are years of education returning less than ever before, but a significant minority of scholars are unable to replicate or meaningfully understand the work of their peers according to recent research.

Don’t buy into *their* nonsense. Academia is a business—both for education and for R&D. Just because they say they’re brilliant—doesn’t mean they are.

The majority of our most valuable R&D comes from the private sector—not from academia. Companies like AT&T, Lockheed Martin, SpacEx, Google, General Dynamics, Bechtel, Boeing, Intel, Sony, IBM, Raytheon, and the working-class scientists they employ are the people who’ve made all of the strides in computing, aerospace, energy, agriculture and telecommunications. It isn’t your college professor.

Sure telecommunications has boosted our ability to collaborate and exchange information overall, increasing human and technological development. But the working class is often more valuable in a free market—take tradesmen and engineers for example—than most in academia. Money generally doesn’t lie.

>> No.12439394

>>12439381
Anon knows what he's talking about. US academia is just as much in free fall as its population.

>> No.12439417

>>12439381
>>12439394
Damn. Is there any hope for the US or is it just GG to China?

>> No.12439422

>>12439090
>implying the average person on campus isn't a complete retard brainlet non-stem midwit

>> No.12439425
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12439425

Purely economic factors.

>> No.12439434

>>12439090
Everyone knows that Americans are retarded. All of their brains are imported.

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>>12439090
> increasingly complicated and groundbreaking research is coming out of places like MIT, Stanford etc.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.12439458

>>12439090
Half are less intelligent than the average, half are more intelligent. As a general population increases, the numbers increase in each of the extremes. America has a huge population with a society that rewards the intelligent and punishes the stupid, so you tend to get bigger concentrations of each in that country.

>> No.12439468

>>12439458
Ehhhh ... google "Reverse Flynn Effect", then do the math on the distributions and realize that the gross number of geniuses is likely not moving in the way you want it to.

>> No.12440128

>>12439425
considering many hispanic families embrace the same culture that caused white and black families to stall fertility (female empowerment). Hispanic population will probably only get to 20% at the most, although white families will for sure be under 50%

>> No.12440264

isnt anyone going to mention culture? both in america and in europe, there used to be a cultural appreciation for education, inovation, self reliance and dignity. even the dumbest poorest americans had self respect and dignity. but thats all gone. people are shameless now. for everyone talking about balck crime, look at how the ratio of blacks increased less, than the crime commited by blacks. the same goes for europe. the working class used to resent the idea that they are poor and dumb. they took pride in what they did. now every one of them is an alcoholic smelly piece of shit, stealing and barely completing there jobs. one or two generations canot dumb people down this much. but culture can change

>> No.12440543 [DELETED] 

>>12439090
Feels bad to be a strange kind of semi-clamped among the very very clamped. And yet I know I must escape.

>> No.12440673

>>12440128
Hispanic growth is mainly due to immigration. You are correct that once they're in the US, their fertility rates drop, especially for the second generation and beyond. As long as immigration continues, their population percentage will also continue to increase.

>> No.12440744

>>12440264
>isnt anyone going to mention culture?
In a race bait thread?

>> No.12440798

>>12440744
fair

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>>12439090
not all of academia...

>> No.12440814

America has always been the land of extremes. Only makes sense that if the best and brightest come here, then it should also have the worst.

>> No.12440884

>>12439422
Kek, absolutely true

>> No.12441076

in my uni class of about 200 (originaly 300 but a third has dropped out already) there are maybe 4-5 non tards. some lab classes have "elite " versions, better equipment better profs etc. normali designed for 20 people, criteria for getting in is getting max points previous semester in related class. these classes NEVER fill up. its just me and the same 4-5 people. and this is suposed to be the best uni in my country. uni is going to shit like everything else

>> No.12441120

>>12441076
Is this in the US?

>> No.12441132

>>12439381
>"research" from companies

Haha yeah. Amazing research like:

>cigarettes don't cause cancer
>Gatorade is better than water for athletes
>cereal is part of a balanced breakfast
>fat=bad, sugar=good

The only agenda we had in NC State was to do research. Where as corporations are just trying to sell you garbage.

>> No.12441227

>>12441132
Research done by WayMo, SpaceX, etc which needs to deliver quantifiable results is in no way comparable to propaganda 'research'carried out by Pepsi and McDonalds

>> No.12441310

>>12441120
nope. europe. but i think the problem you are faciing is not limited to the us

>> No.12444019

>>12440801
interdasting...

>> No.12444086

>>12439090
Academia has gotten a lot dumber. I can't necessarily say that the working class has gotten smarter, but I can say that the majority of genuinely intelligent people (a true intelligence, not measured by being a good test-taker or a good careerist) are working class.

>> No.12444126

>>12441132

More like

>Private oil and gas R&D in the past two decades has led to an energy independent United States.

God you are so fucking stupid.

>> No.12444154

>>12444086
>Academia has gotten a lot dumber.
it was globalist policy based to dumb down the population
http://deliberatedumbingdown.com/ddd/