/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12425350]

Um bros?

[Anonymous No.12425415]

>>12425350
>waning immunity
This isn't news. You're a few months too late

[Anonymous No.12425421]

>>12425350
ya and how many different strains of corona?
how many different vaccines?

this thing aint going anywhere... not ever. we can either learn to live with it or get used to "the new normal".

[Anonymous No.12425543]

>>12425421
vaccines, even if the effect lasts only for 6 months, will drive down the R so eventually (2022) it will be unlikely you ever even bump into an infected person.
Also, the disease you might get wn't be lethal, with proper care you'll survive it.

[Anonymous No.12425551]

i already had sars2 chinkflu

[Anonymous No.12425665]

Stupid question but isn't that why vaccines have booster shots?

[Anonymous No.12425708]

>>12425350
So every 90 days they will inject us with "vaccines" (smart dust) which will be activated by remote 5G networks to monitor and control us.

[Anonymous No.12425718]

>>12425543
ya just like how vaccines wiped out the flu virus, which is way less contagious right?

gimme a break

[Anonymous No.12425747]

>>12425718
kek

[Anonymous No.12425752]

>>12425543
>Person who was vaccinated contracts Covid
>The virus evolves to combat the carrier's immunity

[Anonymous No.12425795]

>>12425543
>6 months
Normal vaccines don't last so fucking short. Yes, you take your reinforcements, but it is after a couple of years. Such a short lived vaccine is fucking useless.

[Anonymous No.12425831]

they'll likely last AT MINIMUM 90 days. but likely longer

but even if they do last that long, if enough people get vaccinated it'll halt the spread of the virus, it'll die out. The outbreak will be over. It'll go away like small pox.

[Anonymous No.12425832]

>>12425831
Reddit moment and non scientist speculation.

[Anonymous No.12425870]

>>12425350
Just vaccinate twice a year what the fuck is the problem?

The west became so fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.12425909]

>>12425708
Just patching the firmware on the NPCs

[Anonymous No.12425998]

>>12425795
It's not useless for the shareholders of the company that manufactures the vaccine.

[Anonymous No.12426059]

>>12425870
Needles suck, bro.

[Anonymous No.12426079]

>>12426059
that's what your gf said

[Stradlater No.12427244]

Ayuuu Ackley Kiddot
Thank your starry skies for the Ump(ire) science

[Anonymous No.12427261]

>>12425718
>ya just like how vaccines wiped out the flu virus
Different strains of influenza every season, and those strains are able to mutate much faster than a coronavirus. Both of those things lower the efficacy of the flu shot, plus under 50% of Americans get the flu shot each year, and other countries barely vaccinate at all. So the situations really aren't comparable.

[Anonymous No.12427356]

>>12425350
So only old people that will die from getting it will need the vaccine. The rest of us should just get it naturally because it seems like the same shit basically.

[Anonymous No.12427371]

>>12425350
90 days is really a low-end estimate. Here's where that information is coming from:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/940896/S907_NERVTAG_certifying_COVID_immunity.pdf

The length of immunity conferred by natural infection or vaccination is currently not
known. Waning immunity is believed to partly underlie the propensity for other
coronaviruses to reinfect after 1-2 years. Studies on MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV
found waning antibody levels over this time period. Reinfections with seasonal
coronaviruses occurs frequently at 12 months, sometimes as early as 6 months but
not within three months. Therefore, based on the variability in the data and
differential responses in the population we conservatively estimate that a protective
immune response after SARS-CoV-2 infection or vaccination may last for 90 days
(moderate confidence).

[Anonymous No.12427426]

>>12425350
They realized the sterilization effect isn't 100% effective, so now they need excuses to give us many doses.

[Anonymous No.12428633]

>>12425350
You know what's better than charging people or the government once a year for a vaccine?
Charging them 4 times a year!

[Anonymous No.12428660]

>>12425708
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[Anonymous No.12428683]

>>12427426
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[Anonymous No.12428739]

>>12428683
>>12428660
>>12427426
>>12425708
Schiz/pol/s go back.

[Anonymous No.12428752]

>>12425350
Can I just go back to my fucking life already? Christ, people don't even want this shit to end, do they?

[Anonymous No.12428771]

>>12425795
>Normal vaccines don't last so fucking short.
depends

[Anonymous No.12428813]

>>12427371
>moderate confidence
Define "moderate"

[Anonymous No.12428814]

>>12428752
Not me. Sorry I'm not sorry. Lockdown life has been nothing but a blessing.

[Anonymous No.12428829]

>>12428739
Sir this is amazon alexa internet monitor and you have been flagged for being dangerously retarded. We have crossed referenced your google searches and Facebook and determined you suffer from low IQ and a number of personality disorders. We are sending a medical unit to your location to move you to a safer location

[Anonymous No.12428838]

>>12428739
Enjoy your barely tested experimental vaccine, but hey at least you will be able to go into the cinema to watch the latest superhero movie!

[Anonymous No.12428847]

>taking a vaccine for a virus with <0.5% chance of death
AYY LMAO
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[Anonymous No.12428853]

>>12425421
>how many different strains of corona
Literally countless. Every "new wave" epidemic is caused by a new serovariety. New waves are popping up every 2 months in relatively isolated countries, i.e. third world countries nobody visits.

[Anonymous No.12428920]

>>12425350
>disease with 0.5% fatality rate, almost exclusively for the elderly and infirm
>mandatory injections every four months for the rest of your life
>if you don't comply, you won't be allowed to work, shop, go out in public, bank with any federally insured financer, etc
>if you tell anyone this freaks you out they laugh in your face and ask if you think the moon landing was faked and elvis was abducted by aliens

[Anonymous No.12428921]

>How long might immunity to the coronavirus last? Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study — the most hopeful answer yet to a question that has shadowed plans for widespread vaccination.
>Eight months after infection, most people who have recovered still have enough immune cells to fend off the virus and prevent illness, the new data show. A slow rate of decline in the short term suggests, happily, that these cells may persist in the body for a very, very long time to come.
>“That amount of memory would likely prevent the vast majority of people from getting hospitalized disease, severe disease, for many years,” said Shane Crotty, a virologist at the La Jolla Institute of Immunology who co-led the new study.

[Anonymous No.12429025]

>>12428920
Yeah Ebola was a breeze.

[Anonymous No.12429061]

>>12428920
what's the matter pussy, afraid of a little shot?

[Anonymous No.12429065]

>>12428920
This whole thing is such a farce, the mainstream story has become completely nonsensical. The only explanation with a bit of sense is that there is an alternative motive.

[Anonymous No.12429069]

>>12425831
But... antivaxxers...

[Anonymous No.12429090]

>>12425350
who cares?

90% of the people kvetching about this thing are boomer women who think they're going to "mom" away the virus by telling everyone to stay home and only spend time with close family

if you are weak enough to die from covid and not them shoving a ventilator down your esophagus, you deserve it

[Anonymous No.12429123]

>>12429061
Average development time for vaccines, including human trials, is about 5 years, the one's we're seeing put out now are being rushed through development in about ~6 months. If I tried to sell you a car, and you noted that the average assembly time for a vehicle was about 20 hours and the one you were buying was assembled in 2 hours, it would be completely reasonable for you to be hesitant about buying it.

And my bigger fear is the consequences of setting a precedent that the government can restrict an individual's access to a job, medical care, housing, food, etc "for the greater good". Today "the greater good" is getting vaccinated against a disease, tomorrow - who knows?

[Anonymous No.12429131]

>>12425350
Inb4 talks of herd immunity with vaccine

LMAO

[Anonymous No.12429300]

>>12429065
It is the fulfillment of prophecy, yes

Babylonian Money Magic – The Fed
https://esotericawakening.com/the-scam-and-how-it-works

remember how you called everyone pol and schizo like the other donkeys here telling you what was going on? You aren't laughing anymore are you?

[Anonymous No.12429865]

>>12429123
Trump’s warp speed vaccine czar came through. He also set up the production so even if it gets approved first somewhere else, once it is approved in America we will get it faster.
> Average development time for vaccines, including human trials, is about 5 years
Yeah, but we spent 10 billion dollars on this one, and Germany spent billions too.
Scientists can solve almost any problem with enough money

[Anonymous No.12429891]

>>12429865
>money accelerates flow of time
found the retard

[Anonymous No.12429899]

Guys, they're talking about sterilizing immunity. That's the kind of immunity that a strong antibody presence will give you: the virus cannot infect you at all and gets killed as soon as it enters your body. This is known to subside after some time (why keep producing antibodies if you haven't encountered the virus in a while).

But that's not there's all there is to the immune response, because there is also T-cell immunity. Some T-cells keep a memory of past infections and know to recognize pathogens that you've encountered before. That then prompts the renewed production of antibodies, and mobilizes killer immune cells. This kind of immunity does not make you immune to reinfection, so you could get sick again. However, it lasts a very long time, and it'll offer protection in the sense that you won't nearly become as sick as when your immune system would have been naive to the pathogen. That means you're less likely to end up with a severe infection, and that you're infectious to others for substantially less long. All of these factors are exactly what we need to curb the pandemic.

[Anonymous No.12429906]

>>12429865
>Scientists can solve almost any problem with enough money
So, what you're saying is
>have faith in scientists
>necessity drives innovation
>higher consumption drives efficiency, eg. economies of scale

Cool religion dude. Whatever gets you to sleep at night.

[Anonymous No.12429929]

>>12429123
see >>12418658

[Anonymous No.12430136]

>>12425415
>This isn't news. You're a few months too late
this
/cvg/ knew about ADE, potential problems with the vaccine and other stuff from preprints back in jan/feb but /sci/fags thought it was a nothingburger lel

[Anonymous No.12430710]

>>12428920
you forger about
>next year's recession that will make the 2008 economic crisis look like economic growth.
>small businesses that will slowly disappear, you will only be able to buy from corporations
>tens of millions of unemployed people
>more power, control and surveillance have corporations and governments world
>mob culture on the internet and in real World they will literally ruin life/family if you do not agree with them

the future look great

[Anonymous No.12430757]

>>12429891
>Developing a vaccine needs a set amount of time instead of a set amount of work
How do you even write this shit with a room temperature IQ?

[Anonymous No.12430763]

>>12429899
This kills the doomer

[Anonymous No.12430771]

>>12427426

[Anonymous No.12431420]

>>12425350
>>12425998
lmao this happens every time. usually the vaccines are just used on a few old people and the bulk sits in storage until it expires. purely artificial economic fuckery, like everything in our worldorder seems to be.

yet this time they have pushed hysteria hard, weird because they ignored it for a few months initially, and i'm thinking they'll force a lot of us to take it regardless. this is a little suspicious given the past but it might just be them flexing their power, their totality, for future reference when it will be meaningful. the long-term reaction to covid seems like this, normalising and testing it out. there's practically no point in taking the vaccine for most people so i wonder what exactly they're doing. high on their own supply and incompetent, perhaps? i notice people in positions of power are the most ideologically entrenched and likely to be influenced by propaganda. it used to be other way around. seems no one is at the helm.

[Anonymous No.12431442]

>>12431420
Good thing you're such an independent thinker immune to propaganda.

[Anonymous No.12431493]

>>12429865
You're not entirely wrong, but
>Scientists can solve almost any problem with enough money
you just posted cringe. Throwing money at problems won't make them go away.

>>12430757
It does take a set amount of time. You seem to have no clue about biochemistry, production and statistics.

[Anonymous No.12431494]

>>12431442
no i'm not. why would you say that and ignore my entire post? has nothing to do with me, i'm not the one who can force people to do things and ruin their lives on a whim. almost seems like you're a dishonest person :/

[Anonymous No.12431569]

>>12431493
>It does take a set amount of time.
How long? 2 vaccines are more or less ready so it's obviously not as fixed as one would think.

[Anonymous No.12431597]

>>12429899
This, lol. Of course /pol/ is jumping all over this because they haven't got a clue how an immune system functions.

[Anonymous No.12432353]

>>12425831
One problem I have with this whole situation is creepy ghoul Gates hovering around in apparent ecstacy like he's just won the lottery a million times which is - obviously - seriously inappropriate and troubling given that we're talking about a virus that has killed thousands upon thousands. And then there's all the predictive programming stuff including from just weeks before the news broke to the point that it really stretches credulity for there to be no link. And then the supposedly opportunistic Great Reset 'you VILL own nuhzing unt you VILL be heppy!' madness from WEF, which again, given the context is - even if it is only genuine opportunism and nothing more sinister - absolutely revolting and megalomaniacal in itself.

If there really isn't anything sinister going on, they're managing to do a really good job of inadvertantly making it look like there is.

[Anonymous No.12432363]

>>12425350
Ha
So its pointless
Ha
When are we just gonna stop being pussies and live our lives?

[Anonymous No.12432415]

>>12431420
They're so used to sucking their own farts they've actually given themselves brain damage from the fumes.

[Anonymous No.12432435]

>>12432363
When you're no longer living as a result of the industrial revolution, and the advances made possible by its high population densities.

[Anonymous No.12432480]

>>12432435
>the advances made possible by its high population densities
>the advances were made possible by high population densities
>Im not even joking guys. I actually believe this crap.
>muh grof
>NOM NOM NOM

[Anonymous No.12432486]

BOOSTER SHOTS EVERY 3 MONTHS
YOU'LL HAVE TO WEAR A MASK FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE TO TRY TO SAVE 0.2% OF THE GLOBAL POPULATION

[Anonymous No.12432516]

>>12432486
At least we'll be doing it for actual people and not abstract ideals like "muh economics."

[Anonymous No.12432521]

>>12432516
>actual people
How much of a person is 0.2% of a person, huh?

[Anonymous No.12432533]

>>12432521
At scale, nearly ~16 million persons.

[Anonymous No.12432630]

>>12432533

"Persons"

[Anonymous No.12433107]

>>12431493
Two scientists working on a vaccine are going to finish it faster than if there was only one scientist. Throwing billions of dollars and thousands of qualified resources on a problem is going to greatly reduce the time it takes to solve it compared to an approach which tries to minimize the cost.

Thinking that, because some of the trials need a set minimum amount of time to complete, the whole process cannot be sped up is either ignorant or doomer talk. They literally had phase I and II trials in parallel so as to shorten development time.

[Anonymous No.12433153]

>>12425350
>get illness once with 0.3% death rate overall which way less for your age, probably asymptomatically
or
>take vaccine which causes side effects every 90 days

[Anonymous No.12433165]

>>12433107
Can I get a baby in a month if I get nine women pregnant?

[Anonymous No.12433178]

>>12433165
You can get 9 vaccines in a normal timeframe if you spend 9 times the money and separate the efforts for no reason.

[Anonymous No.12433215]

>>12433165
Don't bother with analogies on retards. They need their world to be extremely simple, and can't help but instinctively reject any notions of intricacy that might implode their childish world views. They'd go insane otherwise.

[Anonymous No.12433237]

>>12433215
>irrelevant comparison
>notions of intricacy

[Anonymous No.12433373]

>>12433165
>Developing a vaccine is a purely biological process
>Putting an equal amount of effort in nine parallel projects is the same as putting nine times as much of work in one

Wow anon, that comparison is the dumbest thing I saw today. No sure if you are trolling or are really that retard.

>>12433215
> A fixed and unchangeable amount of time to complete a project is a more intricate and accurate model than the schedule depending on the amount of work put on the project while considering diminishing returns.
> Stating that a world view that doesn't align with yours is childish and that others "just can't understand the truth"

Want to know how I know you are a retard and wear a fedora?

[Anonymous No.12433828]

>>12433107
>Two scientists working on a vaccine are going to finish it faster than if there was only one scientist
That's absolutely not a given and sometimes takes even longer in a team.
>Throwing billions of dollars and thousands of qualified resources on a problem is going to greatly reduce the time it takes to solve it compared to an approach which tries to minimize the cost.
Only if the team is extremely qualified and experienced and everybody has the exact same idea of what to do. It seems like you never worked in a team.

>>12433215
Yeah, this.

[Anonymous No.12434284]

>>12433828
> That's absolutely not a given and sometimes takes even longer in a team.
This is not university anon.

> Only if the team is extremely qualified and experienced and everybody has the exact same idea of what to do. It seems like you never worked in a team
This is Pfizer, they have decades of experience doing this shit and thousands of qualified employees.

[Anonymous No.12434305]

>>12433107
>Two scientists working on a vaccine are going to finish it faster than if there was only one scientist

That's manager thinking. It only works up to a certain point, after which there will be so many people running around nothing will get done

[Anonymous No.12434349]

>>12430136
It IS a nothingburger. Biological immunity means that your immune system so aggressively counters the virus that it literally cannot take root in your body at all. That doesn't matter. Vaccines grant you "immunity" in most people's minds by preventing the illness from being bad enough to be an issue, or making it so mild you don't even notice. This article is talking about "After three months the virus can enter your body again" which is, you know, standard for most viruses. Your system will still know how to recognize and fight the virus after three months. If some government desk jockey tells you that you need to take the vaccine every three months to maintain immunity, they're fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.12434421]

>>12429123
looks like you've had too much think son. You better report to the ministry of truth tomorrow to be re-educated