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in the maths exam i just took, you only needed 14% to pass (45% for an A). what makes maths disproportionately hard compared to other subjects? is it badly taught?

>> No.12411472

>>12411294
you can't bullshit your way through it

>> No.12411481

>>12411472
true anon, i think a lot of people get pissed off over the fact the exam questions are usually 10x harder than any unit test questions, textbook questions or even questions available online

>> No.12411483

>>12411294
>what makes maths disproportionately hard compared to other subjects?
you and your peers being fucking stupid

in other news, adaptive scoring criteria are retarded and thresholds should be 90% correct for A, 75% correct for B, 60% correct for C, anything below 60% a fail
if the whole class fails because they can't be assed to learn, chemically castrate them because retards shouldn't be allowed to reproduce

>> No.12411519

>>12411481
me basicly
how can it be that i did ALL the training qustions from the calaoge twice and still sit in the exam like an idiot.

how am i supposed to know if nobody told me that i had to know?

>> No.12411520

>>12411519
instead of victimizing yourself, actually learn from your mistakes or drop while you can. Nobody in the real world is gonna tell you what you need to know. If you're asked to do something, you do it or they find someone else who can.

>> No.12411553

>>12411520
i work a confy part time job.
i have no intresst in a career anyway.
i'm in universty cuz it's confy and i like the people.

yet, i thing they sould tell me, learn to handle this types of excersises, and if you can solve all of the above we let you pass.

>> No.12411556

>>12411553
just give me the D allready

>> No.12411560

>>12411483
sounds like you go to a piss easy uni

must be a dumbass american who's used to easy exams. if a student can get 70% on a test, the test is clearly not difficult enough

>> No.12412432

>>12411560
wow you must be so hardcore

realistically, if you want a hard test, you should probably aim to make the distribution as spread out as possible. If your average is 14% then you're passing/failling too many people on whether or not they got lucky on just a few points. move the average to 50% but have a tail that goes down to 0% and now you can be much more confident that people you are passing at least know something and definitely know more than people scoring 30% or below

>> No.12412468

>>12412432
in canuckland we have below 50% a fail, with letter grades going up in intervals of 10%. So 50-60% is a D and so on, with the last 90-100% being an A+ and 80-90% being an A- to A.

I think this is pretty reasonable, but no grading system matters in comparison to how its balanced based on the design of a test. I can only imagine "14%->pass" in a bizarrely long and difficult test for it to be meaningful, but it's definitely not impossible.

>> No.12412476

>>12411483
Basado.

>> No.12412483

>>12411483
It's almost like you're paying for the professor to teach you.

>> No.12412499

>>12411481
Can confirm this. I took 4 marked assessments during my course and averaged over 85%. On my first mock exam I scored 12%. Every question was multi-part and if you couldn't do the first section everything else after that was impossible.

>> No.12412501

>>12412483
nice professors will help you and answer your questions at least during the time that they are supposed to be teachers, but hard upper div mathematical classes are necessarily going to require more effort from you and less from the professor. the professor still performs the job of building a curriculum that will prepare you for graduate work or industry since the relevant topics may change over time.

>> No.12412508

>>12411294
Math is a skill you have to practice. It's not just memorization of information which you can forget after the test. Most students don't practice, or they get behind on their practice, and then they're perpetually fucked. I sucked at math in school until geometry. Excelling in geometry had nothing to do with how well you mastered preceding material. It was all totally new material and a totally different style of doing math. When I got to college I was mature enough to put in the work to master math and ended up getting a B.S. in physics.

>> No.12412517

>>12411481
thats the professors fault. the professor should be making it clear what level of knowledge you will need for the course and how hard the questions on the exams will be. A professor can't just lecture you and never give you problems or tell you what will be on the exam because then depending on the subject it will simply be impossible to reasonably prepare for the worst case exam.

>> No.12412522

Questions take time to think about it. It's literally that simple.

>> No.12412538

>>12411294
> you only needed 14% to pass (45% for an A)
those numbers are a lie, my maths experience tells me so

>> No.12412553

>>12411294
I had several electrical engineering classes that graded on a similar scale.

>> No.12412882

>>12411481
Yep, was with me and calc 2 the case. After the first failed try, I put in 6-8 hours a day for the other 2 tries and busted my ass off for 4 months.
I failed because almost zero of the questions were on the level of the homeworks, exercise exam my professor uploaded or her exercises on the lecture material. I did all of it several times and failed.

Why even bother giving out that stuff then when the exam is way harder and has a 70-80% failing rate.

>> No.12414438

>>12411294
Easy peezy titty squezzy

>> No.12414445
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12414445

>>12411294
Because math is overrated, any subject where it is applied on the other hand is useful.

>> No.12414461

>>12411294
It's because math requires effort.
You can't read 60% of the pages and score a 60%. You have to read the whole thing and understand it properly and intuitively.
Also, you can't cheat it.

>> No.12414472

>>12412882
calc 2 is the most effective engineering gatekeeper. You're not alone. My friend who got a B in calc 1 flailed so hard in calc 2. He worked his ass off and got wrecked on the final with a 30% or something.

Our prof was also pretty horrible. He had a thick indian accent and read his slides every lecture. His thought process was so whack you'd try and listen then he'd just change the slide to the answer with a box around it. Ended up using pauls notes and youtube. So glad I'm done with it. Arguably harder than calc 3