/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12408992]

Why hasn't any government funded a Launch Loop?
Is it just not practical or is that most governments don't care to try even if it would totally work?

[Anonymous No.12409036]

>>12408992
unfortunately humanity is scared of huge projects, long timelines, fraudulent growth, basically the things we can't understand if it'll be worth it
that's why the ladies are scared of my dick

[Anonymous No.12409054]

>>12408992
Too much infrastructure and cost to put up said infrastructure to appeal to a market that's barren even with a single commercial provider of reusable rockets. It might be useful for a far future where hundreds of tons of payload needs to be delivered monthly, but for now and the near future it is simply too much for too little benefit.

Also, it's a convenient target for terrorists.

[Anonymous No.12409139]

very cool idea, OP. never heard of it

[Anonymous No.12409145]

>>12408992
1. People are not aware of it
2. If people were aware of it, they are not demanding it because they don’t understand its implications well enough
3. The government is corrupt

[Anonymous No.12409148]

>>12409054
>Cost
Most estimates say about 10 billion dollars. That is within Nasa's Budget

[Anonymous No.12409151]

>>12409145
Ok, but why isn't Nasa demanding one? It would save them money in the long run.

[Anonymous No.12409156]

>>12408992
Where's the bridge between LA and Japan?

[Anonymous No.12409157]

>>12409151
one downside is that the US doesn't have any territory on the equator. international waters would be the best place for it, but there may be legal issues with that

[Anonymous No.12409231]

>>12408992
1. we don't have a big need to put massive amounts of crap into space
2. the launch loop's fairly low TRL. It's unstable and Lofstrom's solution to fixing the instability is just LOL COMPUTERS! He doesn't show any simulations of stabilizing it, just LOL COMPUTERS!

[Anonymous No.12409259]

>>12409231
>we don't have a big need to put massive amounts of crap into space
consider a spherical brain in a vacuum

[Anonymous No.12409516]

>>12409259
What're you launchin' anon? No really. What do we really need to launch? Not to mention there will be limits to the size of the stuff you can launch with the loop.

[Anonymous No.12409606]

>>12409054
China builds unbelievable amounts of infra in a few years. The problem is the west is that parasites have infested the whole process and every big project is bogged down by every cunt wanting their piece of the pie.
gif related

[Anonymous No.12409621]

>>12408992

For the same reason you personally haven't build a launch loop

[Anonymous No.12409628]

>>12409621
I am not a government with billions of dollars

[Anonymous No.12409633]

>>12409516
When it has to run 24/7 that sorta doesn't matter too much.
If you can get a cycle going every 5 mins lifting a meager 1t thats 288t a day.

[Anonymous No.12409661]

>>12408992
Megaprojects actually turn out to be not worth the effort.

[Anonymous No.12409663]

>>12409516
the iss wasn't built in a single launch. easy access to space unlocks all sorts of new opportunities for humanity, from exploration to mining to manufacturing materials. it doesn't take a lot of creativity to think of ways to take advantage of such technology

[Anonymous No.12409667]

>>12409661
Explain

[Anonymous No.12409699]

>>12409663
>>the iss wasn't built in a single launch
the ISS doesn't make a profit and the scientific benefits per unit cost are questionable
>> from exploration
is not necessarily profitable
>>mining
show me it's profitable
>>manufacturing materials
is not necessarily profitable either. Often better processes can be found on earth

[Anonymous No.12409714]

>>12409663
> easy access to space unlocks all sorts of new opportunities for humanity
The US as the dominant military power on the planet doesn't want cheap access to space for everyone. Change my view

[Anonymous No.12409722]

>>12409699
> Often better processes can be found on earth
Microgravity, vacuum, temps close to absolute zero, there's a shitload of technologies that could benefit from this. Not everything but there's certainly plenty of products that use a lot of energy on earth trying to achieve these environments

[Anonymous No.12409750]

>>12409699
>benefits per unit cost are questionable
uh, that's why we are discussing alternative strategies to get to space, you dummy

[Anonymous No.12409869]

>>12409722
it was thought that microgravity could be used to make better semiconductors because some silicon refining process was limited by gravity. Because semiconductor grade silicon costs bazongas, it might have been profitable to make it in space. Except then we found out that surface tension driven convection still occurs in microgravity and fucks shit up. Processes for making silicon on earth improved too. Metal foam used to be the killer app for microgravity too. Except metal foam's sort of obsolete now. Additive manufacturing can make materials that have BETTER properties than metal foam. A non-random structure is better than a random one, plus you can only put material where it is needed. Funny thing is that some additive manufacturing processes like electron beam melting NEED gravity too.

[Anonymous No.12409914]

>>12409714
No. It is the correct view.

[Anonymous No.12409917]

>>12408992
>Is it just not practical

[Anonymous No.12409948]

That's a nice big volatile valuable infrastructure you have would be awkward if some one flew a plane into it r something you all really smart in this thread it really is a no brainer to just invest in this

[Anonymous No.12410034]

>>12409148
You couldn't even buy enough materials with 10 billion to make one let alone actually build it, try 10 quadrillion.

[Anonymous No.12410054]

>>12409948
>Fly a plane into it
How fucking often do people fly planes into huge structures you idiot? 9/11 comes to mind but most people aren't willing to die to stop a space elevator.

[Anonymous No.12410127]

>>12409948
just don't let arabs near planes

[Anonymous No.12410136]

>>12409606
China also builds 20 story buildings that end up falling over because they were dirt and garbage instead of concrete.

[Anonymous No.12410162]

[Anonymous No.12410187]

>>12410034
Shut up faggot and actually read up on the thing

[Anonymous No.12410200]

>>12410187
Take your meds bucko

[Anonymous No.12410204]

>>12410200
Is this bot broken? It's responses don't make sense any more.

[Anonymous No.12410209]

>>12410204
You need to take your meds if you think you could build one for 10b, simple as that.

[Anonymous No.12410211]

>>12410209
>He didn't read the papers on it detailing the costs
Oh, you are a brainlet, lol

[Anonymous No.12410214]

>>12410211
Just because someone who hasn't taken his meds either wrote a paper on it doesn't mean it's true.

[Anonymous No.12410219]

>>12410214
Yeah this bot is fucking broken. Try again with a better one China

[Anonymous No.12410222]

>>12410214
>How to spot an underage poster

[Anonymous No.12410228]

>>12410222
Yes if you unironically think you could build a launch loop for 10b then you are most likely underage or at least have a mental age that's 12. Meds will help with that too.

[Anonymous No.12410241]

>>12410228
Yes and there are detailed explanations from scientists and engineers explaining how. You are a retarded child.

[Anonymous No.12410250]

>>12410241
Every cost estimate that ends up at 10b is written by a totally delusional retard. Delusions can be fixed with meds.

[Anonymous No.12410253]

>>12410250
>I-I don't need an argument
Lol, child.

[Anonymous No.12410259]

>>12410250
There are bigger/longer structures that are cheaper to make then that. God you are dumb.

[Anonymous No.12410265]

>>12410253
The argument is that it can't be done with 10b, which is obvious. The insult is that these people need to take their meds because they are delusional.

In the end there are 2 camps.
The people who aren't delusional who understand the technical limitations and the expense that would go into making one
And the delusional group who simultaneously thinks it's easy and cheap and wonders why smart people aren't making one.

>>12410259
There are no structures like a launch loop, if you can't understand the difference between a thing spinning at incredibly speeds and a railway line then you need medications.

[Anonymous No.12410268]

>>12410265
>Which is obvious
Like your love of cock?

[Anonymous No.12410271]

>>12410268
keep seething

[Anonymous No.12410273]

>>12410265
>Spinning
Nigger, it's just a lot of metal wire. The movement comes from applying energy, now any expensive material.

[Anonymous No.12410276]

>>12410271
>lose argument
>SEETHING
Lol. Cope

[Anonymous No.12410285]

>>12410276
I won the argument which is why you are seething. Reality is on my side

[Anonymous No.12410287]

>>12410265
>I don't need to argue, IT'S OBVIOUS
Lol. Imagine telling actual engineers and scientists this. You are a child

[Anonymous No.12410294]

>>12410287
Take your meds bucko, magic doesn't exist just because you keep repeating it does.

[Anonymous No.12410295]

>>12410285
>>12410271
>>12410200
Fuck off back to /v/.

[Anonymous No.12410299]

>>12410295
>nooooo if you don't believe in magic you need to go to v
Take your meds and calm down

[Anonymous No.12410315]

>>12410299
>>12410287
>>12410265
>>12410250
Nice LARPing as an American politician.

[Anonymous No.12410569]

>>12409151
NASA has better things to worry about, like social equality in the workplace

[Anonymous No.12411756]

>>12410294


Takes the items of today and go back in time boom your a magical wizard.

Magic= things that don't exist.

Once it exists it is not magical.


Next thing your gonna tell me is flying cars don't exist.

Wtf is a helicopter ? Some even have wheels. How much engineering would it take to put wheels that work the same as a car.

Wtf is an air plane if not a bus that flies?

[Anonymous No.12411770]

>>12409606
China doesn't have OSHA or stringent building codes.

[Anonymous No.12412769]

>>12411756
You can't get a helicopter with 50 bucks, you can't buy an airplane with 100 bucks. That's what makes it delusional.