My Unusual Solution To Global Warming/Climate Change

[Anonymous No.12385790]

I have been brainstorming a possible last-ditch approach to dealing with the looming climate crisis. It's obvious now that we're already well past the "critical point", where the warming from humanity's emissions have given the process enough momentum to make it self sustaining.

I think now we're at the point we should shelve carbon cutting measures indefinitely and instead focus on managing the Earth's climate directly, by forcibly increasing it's albedo. I propose that we build massive nuclear powered blended-wing-body airplanes that spray millions of gallons of filtered seawater in the lower stratosphere which then immediately turns to enormous clouds of sunlight-reflecting ice. When the plane runs out of water it lands in the ocean again to refill its tanks with more filtered seawater for another spraying mission. It will repeat this process until it's reactor fuel needs replacing. The overall design of these special "Jötnar" airplanes would be similar to pic related, and have onboard closed-cycle nuclear reactors. Unlike the experimental nuclear-powered bombers of the 1960's (which were ultimately never built), where heated air from a reactor was used to turn a turbine compressor in place of combusted jet fuel, the Jötnar planes will have their reactors serve as generators for an array of electrically driven propellers. The planes would perform their spraying missions almost exclusively far out at sea, both to minimize risks of fallout in the event of a crash, and to reduce the amount of heat absorbed by the ocean from sunlight.

The Jötnar airplanes would be enormous, similar to the obscure Lockheed CL-1201 airborne aircraft carrier proposal. If enough of these machines are put into operation together, they can potentially slow or even halt the runaway warming process.

I know this would ultimately be a trillion dollar (at least) effort, but I think it's a good idea to at least have on the drawing board if things really get serious in the future.

[Anonymous No.12385812]

How many of these airplanes would we need? At least perform a rough calculation to investigate whether it could effective.

[Anonymous No.12385819]

>>12385790

Meh,

I may be willing to fun preliminary studies on your project... on the condition Boeing has absolutely no role whatsoever in the development process.

[Anonymous No.12385841]

>>12385812

I imagined the first prototypes being dramatically scaled-down land-based conventional jets to test the technology and ice spreading effects which will be used for these calculations.

From there we'll work on airborne nuclear propulsion, seawater filtration systems, and amphibious hull designs.

[Anonymous No.12385866]

>>12385790
The solution is simple. Force China and India to actually change their industry to a green one.

[El Arcón No.12385875]

>>12385866
They're already doing that...

[Anonymous No.12385877]

The feedback loop we have started is methane escaping the Arctic, I say we concrete cap the huge areas that are leaking to contain the gas long enough that we carbon controls can take effect.

[Anonymous No.12385920]

>the year is 3,000,000,000 AD
>sun is swelling into giant
>mentally ill leftoids still screaming about carbon heating the earth

honestly can't wait for the chinese to take over. they'll just throw you extremists overboard and the rest of us can return to the structured orderly life we enjoy

[Anonymous No.12386050]

>>12385790
Too much money and resources. I doubt those with the money care enough to give it all away to build some planes.

>international (people) response
people already whine about "chemtrails", imagine if suddenly a megacorp turned around and started spraying shit into the air, people will be outraged and conspiracy theorists will come out of the woodwork. regular cell towers are all ready being burned because people think they are 5g towers, so imagine the guerilla response to these planes

>international (government) response
do you really expect countries and united orders of governments to allow such planes into international airspace to do such tasks?

>global effect
the climate problem is a big problem, sure, but animals are adapting slowly and it has changed the face of our earth already. what we need is a measured response to slowly drive the earth back on the right track, not a sudden jolt, otherwise you will flip the entire train. imagine using this to suddenly drop global temperatures. it would have devastating affects on worldwide climates, species and economies

[Anonymous No.12386287]

>>12385866

>forcing china to do anything with the power it has

[Anonymous No.12386355]

>>12385790
You could just fix climate change with a trillion already. If we really were forced to alter the atmosphere to lower the temperature then you would use conventional planes to spray chemicals instead of some kind of meme magic plane making clouds.
Basically incredibly dumb post.

>>12385866
China is the world leader in renewable industry mate and they don't even emit as much as americans do, let alone when you take into account where all of the junk they produce is actually consumed.

[Anonymous No.12386462]

>>12385866
Chinese people are already living on half the energy than you wasteful americans, Indians on one fourth. You are the real problems. If China and Indian were divided into nations the size of the US you would be the big polluters. What gives you the right to pollute much more than the others, and then complain about the others' emissions. Get your shit together americans

[Anonymous No.12386470]

Just build a crap ton of nuclear power globally and cull the surplus populations in the 3rd world.

[Anonymous No.12386500]

>>12386462
>>12386355
China burns as much coal as the rest of the world combined. Over half their railroad rolling stock is in moving coal. They build new coal plants alongside the renewable.

Per capita is meaningless. When most of the pollution is tied to state controlled export.

[Anonymous No.12386540]

Except it might have the complete opposite effect, OP.

>Like regular cirrus clouds, contrail clouds trap heat radiating from the earth’s surface, causing warming in the air below

https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-airplane-contrails-are-helping-make-the-planet-warmer#:~:text=And%20after%209%2F11%2C%20when,of%20the%20University%20of%20Wisconsin.

You are on point with the albedo thing, but think surface mirrors or building everything whiter.

[Anonymous No.12386559]

>>12385790
You can spray water of tower on boat, and have some enthalopy to get loose, up to cold itself and down again.

You can power boat with heat from sea water itself. You just spray thin aerosol from carbon tower on top of a large area boat and have multiple boats like that.

You put high ultrasound resonance there, which will break a lot of water at once into thinniest aerosol, and it will absorb heat from atmosphere.

By spraying up layer you solve nothing much more. I know it's colder there, but usually heated water gets there, so solution is just to get heat in water that's in air and it'll find itself.

[Anonymous No.12386569]

>>12386559
>You can spray water of tower on boat, and have some enthalopy to get loose, up to cold itself and down again.
Yes. And do that just before sunrise so that the vapour will dissipate before nightfall, otherwise you trap heat back on earth.

[Anonymous No.12387374]

>>12385812

three fiddy

[Anonymous No.12387410]

>>12385790
>millions of gallons of filtered seawater
Use something like white phosphorus instead. More efficient cloud generation and we already have tons of WP munitions we're not supposed to be using on people.

[Anonymous No.12387543]

>>12387410

Interesting twist.

[Anonymous No.12387668]

>>12385819

based

[Anonymous No.12387684]

Or pump gallons of cum into the atmosphere to form cum rainclouds.

[Anonymous No.12387938]

>>12386540

uh oh

spaghetti'oh's

[Anonymous No.12388666]

>>12387410
>Let us pump out enormous amounts of fertilisers, much of which will end up in the oceans.
What could possibly go wrong?

[Anonymous No.12388691]

>>12388666
We won't know unless we try it.

[Anonymous No.12388735]

>>12388691
Environmentalists threw a fit when it was discovered someone was fertilising the sea with iron. Any improvement in CO2 conversion to O2 is badthink. The idea, it seems, is that we can only gain redemption by returning to the stone age.

Noticed there is NO change in the atmospheric CO2 trend even though the traffic has dropped like a rock?

[Anonymous No.12388850]

>>12385790
>forcibly increasing it's albedo
This is a stupid and suicidal solution. It means less sun which in turn decrease food production drastically and therefore widespread famines. Also how would we reverse the process if we needed to?

[Anonymous No.12388853]

>>12386050
/thread

[Anonymous No.12388856]

>>12386470
*Just build a crap ton of nuclear weapons globally and cull the surplus populations in the 3rd world.

[Anonymous No.12389013]

>>12385790
>It's obvious now that we're already well past the "critical point", where the warming from humanity's emissions have given the process enough momentum to make it self sustaining.
Incorrect.

Cloud seeding is only a temporary solution because clouds will eventually start to dissipate faster from increased heat.

[Anonymous No.12389030]

>>12388735
>Environmentalists threw a fit when it was discovered someone was fertilising the sea with iron.
Source?

>The idea, it seems, is that we can only gain redemption by returning to the stone age.
Nice strawman.

>Noticed there is NO change in the atmospheric CO2 trend even though the traffic has dropped like a rock?
There is a small change, which is expected since a short term change in our emissions will not have an immediate effect on longer term feedback loops that are already running.

[Anonymous No.12389043]

>>12386500
>China burns as much coal as the rest of the world combined
OK, and? The issue is emissions.

>Per capita is meaningless. When most of the pollution is tied to state controlled export.
LOL, so the state is purely to blame for the export, but just ignore the importers.

No, per capita is very important. More people means more emissions. It's like saying China has an obesity issue because China eats more food than the US.

[Anonymous No.12389239]

>>12388735

what?

[Anonymous No.12389578]

>>12389030
>>Environmentalists threw a fit when it was discovered someone was fertilising the sea with iron.
>Source?
There are many.
https://www.nature.com/news/iron-dumping-ocean-experiment-sparks-controversy-1.22031
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/iron-dumping-ocean-experiment-sparks-controversy/

>>The idea, it seems, is that we can only gain redemption by returning to the stone age.
>Nice strawman.
Well then, why is all forms of geoengineering triggering protests?

>>Noticed there is NO change in the atmospheric CO2 trend even though the traffic has dropped like a rock?
>There is a small change, which is expected since a short term change in our emissions will not have an immediate effect on longer term feedback loops that are already running.
Cite? I was checking the data from Hawaii but cannot see much evidence there.

>>12389239
Not sure what you ask for.

[Anonymous No.12389598]

>>12389578
Also worth reading this:
https://www.nature.com/news/2008/080603/full/453704b.html
Essentially we have to rush to remove CO2 but we must not rush to investigate the use of iron fertilisation of the oceans.

[Anonymous No.12390004]

>>12389030
>There is a small change, which is expected since a short term change in our emissions will not have an immediate effect on longer term feedback loops that are already running.
Here are the measurements:
https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/