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If we dont [Moneylaundering Scheme #1] and at the same time invest in [Moneylaundering Scheme #2] then the Earth will [doomsday scenario] in [Current year + 30].

You have to accept that [undesireable behaviour #1] and [undesireable behaviour #2] are not sustainable in the long run. We need to move towards [desireable behaviour #1] and [desireable behaviour #2] as they are reasonable alternatives.

Forces like [political opponents], [scientists that disagree] or [undesireable organisations and media platforms] need to be censored in order to not dilute the message of saving our planet

[emotional arguments #1-4] are just some examples of people who already suffer the grave conseqences of climate change

i hope you understand this

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>>Have you heard what [Media Puppet #8] and [Corporate puppet #6] have said about [Current Climate Posterchild]s demands?

I am more on the reasonable side of things so i think [Ponzi Scheme #7] and Corporate subsidies for [useless Technology #4] are a good compromise

Have you heard of those maniacs demanding [actually good Tech with no drawbacks]?!?
Havent they heard about [Strawman #1] and [Strawman #2]?

>> No.12375854

the climate right now is super comfy.

at some point, they need to take responsibility for their false predictions.

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>>12375832
Indeed, there is no need for [actually good Tech with no drawbacks]. In a few years we will have [overvalued pipedream #5]

Although i am also concerned that [demonised politician] will try to sabotage the development of [overvalued pipedream #5] because [fossil fuel conspiracy #31]

Dont get me wrong i am all for individual rights and democracy but wouldnt it better if [totalitarian neofeudalist dystopia] would be put into power, at least until the climate is saved?

>> No.12375860

What the fuck happened to 'global warming'?

I was really looking forward to sub-$100 power bills during the winter

>> No.12375872

>>12375860
We are experiencing an abnormal period of climate stagnation - which is unprecedented and dangerous. Study shows that it is caused by fossil fuels and cow farts. If we don't fix the problem in 6 months, the pent up volatility will erupt and kill all humans, especially minorities and transgenders.

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>>12375857
[totalitarian neofeudalist dystopia] should have been put into power years ago

[emotional arguments #21-24] and that is only the beginning

imagine [emotional arguments #62-64] being a normal part of day to day life

imagine having to tell your children that you could have stopped [emotional arguments #33&34] but you didnt because your [basic human right #9] and [luxury good #5] were too important to you

we should [genocidal power fantasys #2] everyone who does not support [totalitarian neofeudalist dystopia]

>> No.12375882

>>12375784
Good thread

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>>12375873
I 100% agree with you
I had to rewrite my PhD thesis in economics because it didnt adress this issue enough
Fortunatly the comitee did let me pass in the end because i came to terms with the fact that one should argue against the SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS

I just hope more people get to see the light and help save our earth from this great danger

I will use my new position as
CLIMATE DIVERSITY LGBTQ+ HUMAN RESOURCES CONSULTANT
at
BIG TECH COMPANY
to pull peoples attention to this topic as good as i can

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>>12375902
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WROTE YOUR THESIS IN DEFIANCE OF [current brainwashing program]

YOU DO REALISE THAT [irrational slippery slope #2] AND WORSE CAN HAPPEN JUST BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU

[emotianl arguments #6-11] ARE PARTLY YOUR FAULT

YOU SHOULD [powerfantasy #19]

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>>12375854
>at some point, they need to take responsibility for their false predictions.
>laughs in millionaire and messiah figure despit each and every prediction being proven wrong

>> No.12375999

Even many on the left don’t agree that climate change is an “existential threat.”
https://www.aei.org/economics/the-case-for-one-billion-americans-my-long-read-qa-with-matthew-yglesias/
“Science” does not agree that climate change is an “existential threat.”
https://www.mcall.com/opinion/mc-opi-climate-change-existential-threat-20191019-kdluxxt45vfdhkfavdppz2yjaa-story.html
>Such talk has scared many young people. Shortly after the 2016 presidential election, a young Clinton volunteer named Zach was upset the Democrats failed to beat Trump. According to cbsnews.com, at a meeting of the Democratic National Committee, Zach yelled at a senior official: “You and your friends will die of old age and I’m going to die from climate change. You and your friends let this happen, which is going to cut 40 years off my life expectancy.”
>Do scientists agree with Zach? The federal government’s Fourth National Climate Assessment was released last November. Hundreds of scientists from 13 government agencies compiled the 1,500-page report. It finds no existential threat from climate change. Zach is likely to have a long life.
Climate change mania is making entire generations neurotic.

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Quality thread.

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>>12375784
Why dont we just go down the nuclear path, uran or thorium idc

my country germany has 80 Billion saved up in case a new nigger crisis erupts and the budget doesnt account for all their gibs (no joke)

imagine just taking those 80 billion and forming a council or whatever of highly qualified scientists to give us the best nuclear power reactor the current theory has to offer and build a prototype. 80 Billion for such a project is basically unlimited funds

Energy prices would plummet, and co2, wether its relevant or not, will all but eradicated as a human byproduct (exept breathing ofc)

why not just do that, why buy into the greta/michael mann memes and destroy your economys and scare a whole generation of youths into depression and schizophrenia as >>12375999 pointed out

>> No.12376057

>>12376037
Vietnam is why. Young people didn't want to be drafted to go die in SE Asia so the anti-war movement became a huge cultural phenomenon. Anti-nuclear armament was naturally a part of anti-war movements. This anti-nuclear sentiment expanded to all uses of nuclear, as it was believed any use of nuclear would benefit those who want to deploy nuclear weapons. It's also possible that the KGB had a hand in this, wanting western nations to fall behind the Soviet Union in nuclear technology.
Hatred of nuclear became a cornerstone of leftist identity and they've never been able to shake it despite it causing a great divide in the environmental wing of leftist groups.
There's also been a strong association between nuclear power and large corporations, as they're the only ones besides the government who can produce nuclear power. The left used to be strongly anti-corporation. Though now they've been captured and subverted for corporate purposes, that anti-nuclear sentiment that came out of anti-corporate viewpoints has lingered with the left.

>> No.12376070

>>12376057
and anti vexers are mostly from the same group, lol.

>> No.12376075

>>12376070
in the age of corona antivax is unironically legit
>inb4 retard
I am not getting a RNA altering vaccince go fuck yourself

>> No.12376086

>>12376075
Doesn't mean much until the vaccine is widely available. I do wonder how many anti-vax moms are going to find a way of rationalizing this vaccine being ok but all the other vaccines being evil.

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>>12375784

>> No.12376252

>>12375784
Are you going to leave now that trump lost?
you should.

>> No.12376269 [DELETED] 

https://youtu.be/9SAZ-9OVt2M

>> No.12376281

>>12376075
wtf is RNA, you mean DNA?

>> No.12376285

>>12376192
Go back
Shoo shoo

>> No.12376343

>>12376281
>american education

>> No.12376377

>>12376281
No he means FNA

>> No.12376387

>>12375873
>we should [genocidal power fantasys #2] everyone who does not support [totalitarian neofeudalist dystopia]
This but unironically

>> No.12376394

Did Al Gore touch OP as a child or something jesus

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SO MANY VARIABLES!!!

>> No.12376435

>>12376285
Don’t let Trump dominate your life!
One thing that's for certain, don't let him dominate you.
Don't be afraid, he's beat. You'll feel better than 4 years ago.
Don't let him dominate, don't let him take over your lives. Don't let that happen.
We have the greatest country in the world.
We're going back to work, we're going to be out front.

>> No.12376443

>>12376435
The next "Trump" is gonna be one of your precious minorities looking for revenge on evil whitey.

>> No.12376446

>>12376443
kek, cope

>> No.12376455

>>12376446
You don't think so? You think we've seen the last "Trump"?

>> No.12376458

>>12376455
rent free

>> No.12376460

>>12376446
In any case I don't think trump was nearly as bad as the globalist corporate msm framed him to be. but if you're afraid of "dictators" and "fascists" you probably haven't seen nothin yet.

>> No.12376466

>>12376458
oh boy, we got a real intellectual here.
a real deep thinker.

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>>12376466
go back

>> No.12376485
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>>12375784
Climate change is legitimately making the Earth warmer disproportionately, and the change is relative to industrial activity. All *actual* scientists know this and are trying to work around it / fix it, only message board autists and literal boomers still deny this.

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>>12376485
But further, we can easily reduce our problem by half with nuclear power. Plus the pollution issue can be fixed with emphasis on trendy reusable items and luxury products like Tesla cars. Stop denying facts and help us make money off of people's greed with sustainable products and options.

>> No.12376497

Your shitty memes do not prove or contribute anything to it. Keep being retarded.

>> No.12377639

>>12376485
>Any scientists who does agree with my political opinions aren't real scientists
Whew, glad we got that cleared up.

>> No.12377787

>>12377639
found the message board autist

>> No.12377838

>>12377787
>noooo you cant call out my confirmation bias noooo

>> No.12377880

>>12375784
1 term

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>>12377880
>>12377787
>>12376485
>>12376489
>>12376497
>>12376466
>>12376455
>>12376443
>>12376435
>>12376394
>>12376387
>t. pic related

>>12376281
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA
seriously this is high school shit how are you in STEM

>> No.12378823

>>12375784
We should go on as usual because [problem (science gives evidence about) #1], [problem (science gives evidence about) #2] and [problem (science gives also evidence about) #3] is a hoax because otherwise I would have to step back from [resource-intensive habit #1], [resource-intensive habit #2] and [resource-intensive habit #3.]

By telling myself that these undoubtedly drastic changes are just money thrown out the window and will never have a benefit, I am able to maintain my own small and retarded worldview.
I am even prepared to lie to myself in the argumentation, for example by talking about scientists who take my point of view although I am perfectly aware that with the sheer number of people on this planet there must always be someone who wants to share my prejudices. I ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of all ever existing scientists have a different opinion on this.

Furthermore, by reducing my social exchange to a circle of people who share these prejudices with me - even develop them further - I form other very dangerous views, such as the belief that the establishment of a new system here is accompanied by the suppression of opinions, or that politics and organizations are suppressed.

Through this selective perception, I am able to recognize my completely made-up bullshit as facts and to dismiss the factual arguments of the other side as clumsy emotional reactions.

Essentially, my goal is to maintain the status quo until my death, because that is more comfortable for me. Everything else does not interest me.

i hope you understand this:
>>>/pol/

>> No.12378837

>>12377787
>Any scientists who does agree with my political opinions aren't real scientists
>Anyone who points out my logical fallacies is an autist
Whew, glad we got that cleared up.

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>>12378823
I am literally 28 years old PhD and have belived that bullshit all my live since its shilled everywhere you go until getting into an argument with a "climate denier" which forced me to read henrik svensmark and tim ball becaues it thought i could refute that really easy

i literally tried desperatly to find ANYTHING that even comes close to the closely knit agrumentation and barrage of statistical and rational argumented evidence

then i actually looked up michael mann and other prominent climate people ....

there is no evidence for this bullshit,
people who belive that eiter really want to conform and fit in or are just too lazy to really get into the whole debate

moldbug was right on everything. the media can make 90% of the population belive literally anything they want just as the church was in the past.

you fucking bugmen disgust me

come at me
explain to me to how much °C 1PPM CO2 causes
if we rose 60 PPM and around 2 °C since 1850 thats a really easy equation isnt it?

NOOO always "its to complicated" "its a complex system"
like OK if you dont get it yourself dont make predictions on it you goddamn moron
take all the time you need i am here
DM me if you must

I design airplanes for a living, i spent 11 years in university to get to this point and somehow my well informed and qualified opinion on the matter is trash because i disagree but a fuckign 18 year old autist and some career politician who lost an election are messiah figures?!

you are religious nutjobs, nothing more

>> No.12378900

>>12378882
>that pic
Sides in Orbit

But seriously these guys cant be reasoned with
We need to shed the idea of turning them back and healing western society and just come to terms with the fact that we will have to literally Kill them all and not look back

They already think that about us so whats the matter?
The quicker the war starts the less suffering for everyone

>> No.12378903

>>12378882
I dont think you have a phd.
but you can prove that very quickly.
I will wait.

>> No.12378916

>>12378903
>literally ask you to show me compelling evidence to support your alleged undeniable and easily provable bullshit
>haha you asking me to prove my claims shows you dont have a PhD

why are you like this
what made you this way
it wasnt like this pre 2018
2 years of climatebullshit on TV made normal people into cultists

>inb4 i am distracting from proving my PhD
suck a dick
i asked you to support your claims first

>> No.12378925

>>12378916
>>>/pol/

>> No.12378947

>>12378925
conversation so until now
>give me any evidence that refutes Ball or Svensmark or at least comes close to their level of cohesion
>>haha you dont have a PhD because you ask for this
>just show me what i asked for if its that obvious
>>haha you must be a nazi go back to /pol/ lol

this is not how Hegel imagined science to work when he wrote his essays about the scientific method

but then again i cant imagine you have ever read a book in your life let alone a real one that doesnt just jerk your ego

>> No.12378958

>>12378947
>>12378925

>> No.12378974

>>12378958
> https://www.reddit.com/

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>>12378958
>>12378925
>>12378903
AHAHHAHAHAHAHA Holy Shit i hate this fucking world
They arent even interested in Debate
"Science" for them is getting the truth from some authority and then circlejerking about how true its is and how smart you are for beliving it

AND THESE BUGMEN RUN ACADEMIA AND SCIENCE
AHAHAHAH
FUCK THIS IM MOVING TO TAHITI

>> No.12379156

>>12377639
Find me a valid paper that refutes climate change.

>> No.12379171

>>12379156
This is the short version but it contains everything you need to know to understand
if you want to know more you will have to read from the beginning in 2008 so i link you this
https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2019/03/SvensmarkSolar2019-1.pdf

>VALID paper
please dont do this shit. For the love of science just read the theory and tell me where it might be wrong. Going "OHH THIS GUY PEER REVIEWED WRONG, THAT GUY WAS PAYED OFF" is just fucking gay
>REFUTES climate change
the climate is changing, but its not because of CO2. Also it was warmer than it was now in the Middleages and ever warmer durig Pax Romana and the Bronze Age. Backdating plants is bullshit because Plant growth directly corrolates with CO2, regardless of temperature. Use Ice cores

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Achieve intercourse, /sci/.

>> No.12379197

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
at least it was entertaining to read that.

>> No.12379204

>>12379197
>hurr durr too much text gotta attack the guys who sponsored the research instead

read the fucking paper you absolute moron
there is no flaw to be found in how this was worked out and tested at the danish space institute

is this all you can do
/pol/ here ad hominem there

you literally cannot beat me on the merits of your theory alone and you know that

>> No.12379214

>>12379171
>the climate is changing, but its not because of CO2.
>paper states that solar activity affects climate change, but doesn't make the case that it's causing our current circumstance
CO2 levels are about 1.5x the historical average ppm over the last 1,000 years: https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/ , and the increase correlates to industrial activity. The increase in global temperature also correlates to this. Sun activity hasn't been positively trending with temperature, as indicated by NASA's climate division: https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/189/graphic-temperature-vs-solar-activity/
The evidence disagrees with your notion.

>> No.12379215

>>12379204
well I take a look at it. despite youre bitching around and a lier.
if I find out that Im just looking at shit Im going to fuck you so bad for a week here that youll be sick of it, I promise.

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>>12379197
>>12379156
>give paper
>no not that one

this is it isnt it
this is how the dream of space dies

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>>12379217
Are you alright, dude? The paper talks about their findings of the solar activity's effect on past climate phenomena, and I gave you a link showing that current solar activity isn't irregular and doesn't trend with temperature. The paper ***is irrelevant***. This is called ***discourse*** guy.

>> No.12379234

>>12379217
you can still post your phd degree with a timestamp.
otherwise youre a fucking liar.
and you bitching around for hours now.
let me read.

>> No.12379236

>>12379214
>CO2 levels are about 1.5x the historical average ppm over the last 1,000 years
>last 1000 years
really convenient cutoff if you look at the 10000 or 100000 scale
>and the increase correlates to industrial activity.
ofc it does. When did i dispute that. if we could indulge in your bullshit without destroying our civilisation then i wouldnt give two fucks

>The increase in global temperature also correlates to this.
It doesnt. It merely coincides. The corrolation is fabticated by computer models that crunch numbers until they fit the narrative. See Mann VS Pool
>Sun activity hasn't been positively trending with temperature

THATS THE FUCKING POINT READ THE PAPER

>> No.12379248

>>12379227
>>12379234

>>12379217 is not me

>>12379227
>The paper talks about their findings of the solar activity's effect on past climate phenomena,
>Over the last 20 years, much progress has been made in understanding the role of the Sun
in the Earth’s climate. In particular, the frequent changes between states of low and high
solar activity over the last 10,000 years are clearly seen in empirical climate records. Of these
climate changes, the best known are the Medieval Warm Period (950–1250 AD) and the Little
Ice Age (1300–1850 AD), which are associated with a high and low state of solar activity,
respectively. The temperature change between the two periods is of the order of 1.0–1.5 K.
This shows that solar activity has had a large impact on climate. The above statement is
in direct contrast to the IPCC, which estimates the solar forcing over the 20th century as
only 0.05 W/m2, which is too small to have a climatic effect. One is therefore left with the
conundrum of not having an explanation for the difference in climate between the Medieval
Warm Period and Little Ice Age. But this result is obtained by restricting solar activity to only
minute changes in total solar irradiance.
There are other mechanisms by which solar activity can influence climate. One mechanism is based on changes in solar UV radiation. However, the conclusion seems to be that the
effect of UV changes is too weak to explain the energy that enters the oceans over the solar
cycle. In contrast, the amplification of solar activity by cosmic ray ionisation affecting cloud
cover has the potential to explain the observed changes. This mechanism is now supported
by theory, experiment, and observations....

you goddamn dishonest dogs

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>>12379248
also dont even get started on that "medival warperiod was like +0.5 °C" bullshit
Literally every backdating exept the plant bullshit shows it was at least at todays level

>> No.12379266

>>12379236
>really convenient cutoff if you look at the 10000 or 100000 scale
ok.... https://niwa.co.nz/file/32553
>ofc it does. When did i dispute that.
Nigger what is your fucking argument at this point

>>12379248
Yes, so it does prove that solar activity has an effect on climate. What i'm trying to say, is that it doesn't try to make a case that solar activity is the cause of our *current* climate change dilemma - it only proves that it's happened before.
This is why I posted the NASA link with the trend comparison between solar activity and temperature - i'm saying "yes, solar activity can affect the climate, but that isn't the case at the moment".

>> No.12379284

>>12379266
>Nigger what is your fucking argument at this point

there is no way you have read anything in that timeperiod so i will sum it up for you

>it was warmer than today before
>it was cooler than today before
>the current rate of rise in temperature is not alarming and comparable to past warmperiods
>those can be really well traced back to the sun and its various effects as outlined in the paper
>because we are dealing with a situation comparable to multiple events in the past when bis factories and powerplants did not exist i conclude that the sun is at fault and we will probably be fine

>>ofc it does. When did i dispute that.
>Nigger what is your fucking argument at this point
also i really need to adress this garbage
did you really think anyone could dispute that factories proudce CO2? Is that what they tell you we "deniers" belive? Are you actually that retarded

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>>12379266
this proves my point you absolute retard
if we have an almost 60% increase why does temperature stay within the boundaries of the past fluctuation?!

Like if you go from 280ppm to 400ppm you could expect the temperature the follow suit but it doesnt even breach the heights from before the last ice age

goddamn idiot

>> No.12379311

>>12378882
Good post. Wish I saw more like this

>> No.12379329

>>12379297
Jesus, the graph you posted is in an upwards trend...
Please, if you have the capability of pattern recognition - if the temperature line is pretty closely following the CO2 line, then what's going to happen if the CO2 line skyrockets?

>> No.12379331

>>12379311
Awareness of the global warming scam is finally rising, this is a good sign

>> No.12379336

>>12379329
https://www.co2.earth/
THIS TAKES 30 SECONDS TO GOOGLE
YOU GODDAMN BUGMEN SHOULD ALL BE GASSED

>> No.12379337

>>12379284
...but "before" means thousands of years ago. yes, there's a natural temperature cycle, but we are *accelerating* it. Why tf do you want rapid change to happen???
>i conclude that the sun is at fault and we will probably be fine
>probably
get off this board

>> No.12379340

>>12379336
The temperature graph is literally going upwards, I don't know what else to tell you.

>> No.12379344

>>12379337
>>probably
>get off this board
YES SCIENCE ALWAYS MAKES ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS
LIKE IN THE 1850 WHEN THEY THOUGHT RADIOWAVES TRAVEL TROUGH A HIGHER PLANE OF EXISTENCE CALLED THE AETHER

>> No.12379346

let me summarize.
realization: yes, sunlight varies in a 11 year term.
is it responsible for the temperature increase? no
but it could be part of it, could it? at least in a small percentage range? yes, maybe, we cant tell exactly.
can it explain the temperature development? no
can we now lean back again, because the sun is responsible for everything? no
>hurr durr climate change is hoax, here have a paper
*shakes head and leaves*

>> No.12379348

>>12375873
> basic human right
come on now

>> No.12379349

>>12379329
>then what's going to happen if the CO2 line skyrockets
You don't know your sides assumed mechanics of co2 increase? Why are you posting here if you can't even recite the gospel of your own priests? Are you a useful idiot?

>> No.12379363

>>12379340
it does not rise proportionally to the CO2 graph which suggest either inverse corrolation in additon with different factors
>Temperature increase melts frozen CO2 and humans add on top of it
or it suggest that both corrolate with a 3rd factor that hasnt been discovered yet and acts in unpredictable ways

it literally disproves the more CO2 = More °C theory

>I don't know what else to tell you.
i know
you had nothing but popscience and echochamber confidence to begin with

>> No.12379367

>>12379346
>shakes head and leaves
Running away because you got dominated by the actual facts of actual reality? Weak.

>> No.12379368

>>12379346
>*shakes head and leaves*
never come back

>> No.12379373

>>12379346
>let me summarize.
how about your prove your shit with actual data instead like, you know, scientists do?
>*shakes head and leaves*
good to see that we have one redditor less tho

>> No.12379383

>>12379340
this is just dishonest jewry at this point
OP said
>>12379297 = the CO2 doesnt pull the °C up with it, therefore direct causation is out
you said
>>12379329 = its a trend not raw data, it MIGHT be 400 in the future and WILL pull °C up proportionally
OP responded understandably angry
>>12379336 = No, 400 PPM is raw data right now, and it didnt pull the °C up with it
So you say
>>12379340 = GRAPH GOES UPWARDS THO HAHA CHECKMATE

dishonest to the core

>> No.12379387

>>12379363
Again, it's not a theory, it's literally trending the same in every graph. I don't know why you're making the statement that "it does not rise proportionally", when it's literally in the middle of an upwards trend if you look at more focused graphs. (you obviously can't tell looking at a graph with a span of hundreds of thousands of years)
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/news/2007/

>> No.12379396

>>12379383
It's somehow dishonest to say you can't properly see a 50 year trend on a graph with a span of 400,000 years, my sides
>>12379387
Fuck me some of you start speaking in tongues when you reach the limit of you argumentative capabilities

>> No.12379402
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12379402

>>12379387
>https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/news/2007/
>literally one degree in almost 150 years
>rate between 1920 and 1940 matches the rate between 1980 and 2000 despite CO2 increasing tenfold
>CO2 also kept increasing by a fuckton inbetween 1940 and 1980 but temperature stagnated
>somehow this makes a case FOR +CO2 = +°C

delusion

>> No.12379425

>>12379396
>It's somehow dishonest to..
no i dont give a shit
its dishonest that you change the way you ment your arguments to be understood everytime you get debunked
also yes the 50 year trend increases slightly, the 10 million year trend is a hard decrease
what are you trying to say here
you are trying to prove a corrolation with CO2

>> No.12379436

>>12379402
>>CO2 also kept increasing by a fuckton inbetween 1940 and 1980 but temperature stagnated
No it didn't, it stagnated over 1940-50 because of WWII and then increased with economic recooperation.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Global-temperature-red-and-CO2-emissions-blue-over-the-past-decades-14-16_fig6_236331802
You're flat-out lying now. I love how you're making all those assertions without a source to any CO2 ppm graph

>> No.12379450

>>12379425
>>12379436
And you can literally see a lag between the CO2 and the temperature curves.

>> No.12379459
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12379459

>>12379436
>>CO2 also kept increasing by a fuckton inbetween 1940 and 1980
>>No it didn't, it stagnated over 1940-50
>1940 and 1980
>1940-50
DISHONEST
>>I love how you're making all those assertions without a source to any CO2 ppm graph
>pic related
TO
>>https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Global-temperature-red-and-CO2-emissions-blue-over-the-past-decades-14-16_fig6_236331802
>your own graph shows it went from 2GTC to 6GTC
THE
>>rate between 1920 and 1940 matches the rate between 1980 and 2000 despite CO2 increasing tenfold
>1920 to 1940 ~1.8 GTC 1980-2000 ~7GTC
>same temperature increase
CORE

>> No.12379469
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12379469

>>12379450
yes temperature almost always comes first

>> No.12379481

>>12379459
>still using large span graphs to show small rates of change

>>12379469
what in the absolute fuck are those lines trying to show

>> No.12379488

>>12379344
You know nothing about science, nigger. If you have the evidence, your assertion is true until someone proves it wrong with better evidence. You're making a *wrong* assumption with no evidence, and saying it's "probably" true. Not the same as some quack physicists who were making hypotheses based on assumed variables that they couldn't prove true.

>> No.12379494

>>12379481
>>still using large span graphs to show small rates of change
literally irrelevant
if you think thats somehow a problem here get me one that shows what you think i am missing
>>yes temperature almost always comes first
>what in the absolute fuck are those lines trying to show

>> No.12379501

>>12379488
so show me the evidence you have and end this debate
all you tards did was try to dissuade or illegitise my objections to +CO2 = +°C
Noone ever showed me compelling evidence beyond
>LOOK GRAPH LOOKS THE SAME! QUICK DESTROY THE BASIS OF OUR CIVILIZATION

>> No.12379506

>>12376485
>industrial activity has exponentially increased for over a hundred years
>global temperature has not exponentially increased
?

>> No.12379509

>>12376037
If they were serious about carbon footprints they wouldn't be flooding Europe with high breeding low IQ migrants, using birth rates to pay muh retirement as an excuse

>> No.12379524
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12379524

ITT pic related

>> No.12380811

>>12375784
>All R&D into sustainable industrialization should be fully privatized, proprietary, and owned by private interests, with maximum IP exclusivity.
>Capitalism of the purest Crony kind, aided by libertarian larpers and paranoid schizos working tirelessly in its service, is the only true utopia. All else is dystopia, and more feudal than the former, democratic republics particularly.
>Only Orange Jesus and his worshppers can save us from eating bugs, drinking soi, and science practiced in the long-term public interest.
>>12379524
I'd hardly call it that, though it is mighty spooky in the precision of its inversion-by-projection choreography, as most such disinformation threads are.

>> No.12380817

>>12379506
I'd argue that all industrial activity added only a small cumulative effect to climate in terms of greenhouse gases, which is why we're seeing small incremental changes in temperature

>> No.12381156

I sense in the root of my soul you all want self sufficient heat pump like nobody ever before.

>> No.12381171

>>12375784
Climate "crisis" is class warfare only this time from the top down instead of the other way around. Ask yourself this, who can afford electric cars, rising electricity prices and nice environmentally friendly houses ?

>> No.12381216

>>12376458
stop trying to use chanspeak to fit in, youre making a fool of urself, dude
you'll never be a woman btw

>> No.12382446

>>12378882
I love how they think that only a "climatologist" or "climate scientist" can have any say in this matter.
The general public aside...
They won't let meteorologists, geologists, biologists, or chemists have a say.
It is always "hurr durr you're not a climate scientist!".

>> No.12382747

>>12382446
except if you are a malnourished 18 year old girl or a late 50s failed presidential candidate

they bend the rules over who can have an opinion on the matter accoding to whos opinion is right

>> No.12382757

>>12380811
with >>12379524 i meant you climatefaggots not the guys poking fun at your delusions

>> No.12382795
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12382795

>>12375784
Even if we did [reasonable cost effective solution #2] that does not treat the problem at the source.

We can only [aspect of pipedream future #4] if we implement [incredibly costly inefficient scheme #3].

I think a step in the right direction to [disguised global power scheme #1-18] is to implement [minutely less potent version of incredible costly inefficient scheme #1-18].

Just think [emotive argument #3-7] next time you engage in [perfectly normal human activity #27-35].

>> No.12382815

>>12376037
Because it's shit economically, the nuclear industry has had like 80 years and a shit ton of it's R&D handled by the government and it's utterly failed to even come close to completing with fossil fuels. This is true globally. Expecting them to do any better because you feed them even more tax dollars is just insanity.

>> No.12383542

>>12375872
>cow farts
Burps

>> No.12383546

>>12375784
Go back to /pol/ faggot

>> No.12385075

>>12383546
>faggot
stop hitting yourself, why are you hitting yourself?

>> No.12385145

>>12376281
>/sci/
lmao