how long until every american gets covid (at current numbers). They're not even trying anymore.

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Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:17:48 2020 No.12342788 [Reply] [Original]

how long until every american gets covid (at current numbers). They're not even trying anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:35:04 2020 No.12342820 >>12342788 Why does it matter? I'm not in a vulnerable population.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:37:24 2020 No.12342823 Let's put it this way: covid ends by this summer one way or another

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:38:48 2020 No.12342825

>>12342788
>They're not even trying anymore.
wrong. We need 65-80% of the population to get infected with covid to reach herd immunity.

They ARE still trying. It's just ..... now they're trying to get everybody infected instead of preventing infection.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:40:03 2020 No.12342827 >>12342788 retard, covid will disappear on November 4th

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:46:35 2020 No.12342835 by the time biden gets in and does something about it 90% of the country will have it already. >>12342820 permanent lung damage

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:48:51 2020 No.12342841 >>12342820 Just because you are unlikely to die doesn't mean it won't still fuck you up. There are many cases of people that caught it that at the start of the year and still having recovered all their taste sense or other side effects.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:51:27 2020 No.12342847 >>12342820 > taste loss, lung damage, anxiety, depression, lethargy, general weakness, insomnia. that's like saying you don't care about contracting pneumonia. even if it doesn't kill you its some nasty shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:52:12 2020 No.12342851 >>12342835 also heart, kidney, brain damage and increase risk of mental illness. For all we know everyone who had covid will get dementia in 5 years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 20:54:34 2020 No.12342858 >>12342851 i am mentally ill already

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:00:28 2020 No.12342871 >>12342851 For all we know, it might give you superpowers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:03:20 2020 No.12342876 >>12342788 It literally doesn't kill anyone anymore lol who cares

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:03:27 2020 No.12342877 >>12342871 no anon it really wont.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:03:42 2020 No.12342879 >>12342788 >They're not even trying anymore. If you under 20 it is about equal to the common cold If you are 20-30 about the common flue 30-50 a bad flu 50-60 you will live unless you have a "prior condition" 60-80 you probably gonna die 80+ bye bye

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:04:55 2020 No.12342883 >>12342871 Sure, maybe, but we have diagnosed cases of lung and heart damage...whether it leads to future issues is unknown. Do you know of anyone who gained the ability to fly or turn invisible after having Covid?

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:06:20 2020 No.12342888
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>>12342871
>it might give you superpowers.

Mutations only give superpowers in the movies.
Otherwise, everybody would be drinking radioactive waste as if they were boomer energy drinks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:06:24 2020 No.12342889 >>12342788 >They're not even trying anymore. France here, people don't care anymore. They are not afraid anymore. But they are still stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:08:01 2020 No.12342892 >>12342825 there's no way we'll ever reach herd immunity. the only two options are eradicating covid or waiting it out until it domesticates itself. we fucked up the first, the only question is how painful the second will be

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:11:38 2020 No.12342895

>>12342825
>We need 65-80% of the population to get infected with covid to reach herd immunity.
That's definitely how shit works. All the viruses of the past, defeated by making everyone sick!
...no wait, they were defeated with vaccines, and making enough people immune through them so that the virus couldn't spread anymore. That's what herd immunity is, you dense retard!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:18:01 2020 No.12342906 >>12342892 >>12342895 I know that! Tell it to the orange cheeto man. The official US strategy for dealing with covid19 is herd immunity. OFFICIALLY! For the next 10 weeks anyway. Right when covid will be at it's worst. Buckle up everybody.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:22:41 2020 No.12342919 File: 160 KB, 381x384, sad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12342879 my dad is 60

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:29:26 2020 No.12342937 >>12342919 he had a good run

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:31:03 2020 No.12342940 >>12342937 i thought even people who are 80+ have a 90% chance of beating it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:32:12 2020 No.12342941 >>12342906 >Tell it to the orange cheeto man. Mass death is the deserved punishment for the population that elected a fascist egomaniac that showed no sign of empathy or human decency as their leader. Same goes for Brazil.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:32:54 2020 No.12342943 >>12342941 whitoid hands typed this extremely gay post

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:33:24 2020 No.12342945 >>12342788 Coronavirus is endemic and will literally ever go away. It will spread through all countries forever and ever. Fact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:36:32 2020 No.12342949 >>12342945 it won't go away but it will fade into the background just like spanish flu did (which is still in existence today)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:38:33 2020 No.12342954 >>12342949 Of course. Viruses typically mutate to be less dangerous over time. I estimate late 2021 to be when people start giving up on trying to contain it

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:39:12 2020 No.12342956

>>12342943
>extremely gay post
Still having a hard time accepting the responsibility of the vote? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes: people choose poorly and now a significant part of that same population is going to die an entirely avoidable and horrible death. Next time those who survive will hopefully choose better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:40:47 2020 No.12342959 >>12342954 it will happen earlier. People already lost one summer to this. There won't be another.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:41:36 2020 No.12342962 >>12342956 It was never avoidable.

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>>12342945
I'm very worried about the long term effects desu senpai, I already have cognitive problems and I don't want to get even dumber. My therapists says I'm paranoid because I'm not 80+ but I don't trust her. She's always trying to bully me into going outside and claims that online therapy 'just doesn't work' so I have to physically show up in her Covid den twice per week.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:41:48 2020 No.12342964

>>12342940
10% is still a pretty bad mortality rate.
>>12342954
It's political now, they can never give up. It's gonna be like politicians who say they are tough on crime but do nothing but throw a bunch of people in jail and make up new draconian laws. Every year forevermore politicians will campaign as "tough on covid" and just institute a pointless week long lockdown and anti-mask arrests to look like they are doing something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:42:01 2020 No.12342965 >>12342940 where I live (Korea) the death rate for 80+ is ~20%, and the overall death rate in Korea is below average (1.73% vs 2.43% globally)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:44:01 2020 No.12342972 >>12342962 Yet many countries managed to avoid it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:44:57 2020 No.12342974 >>12342963 Dilate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:45:20 2020 No.12342976 >>12342972 list 10 that aren't extremely small

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:47:34 2020 No.12342981 >>12342976 Germany was hardly affected

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:48:39 2020 No.12342983 >>12342972 >Yet many countries managed to avoid it A handful of tiny island nations, you mean. Don’t lie when everyone can learn you’re lying after spending 5 seconds on Google.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:49:05 2020 No.12342985

If we didnt have that first lock down we were on trajectory to have 60-70% of the pop infected by now. Thats the 2 million death toll. Ive been watching pretty close and it looks we are approaching the levels of infectivity that New York had at the start within the month if nothing is done.

I expect maybe 500-600k deaths by Feb 2021 when the vaccine comes out. Assuming americans arent still fucking retarded by then and refuse it we can reach herd immunity by maybe April.

Take the vaccine people. There were 39k people who were part of the trial and it had no negative effects so far. Chicken pox causes shingles. We dont know what covid will do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:50:06 2020 No.12342989 >>12342981 >Germany was hardly affected ???? Yes it was, and the infections there are going up daily.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:51:40 2020 No.12342996 >>12342985 >Take the vaccine people No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:51:49 2020 No.12342997 >>12342989 >muh cases >>12342985 sure because they are listing every 300lb beetus death as covid

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:53:02 2020 No.12343001 >>12342997 Pneumonia deaths declined in the US at the same time Coronavirus deaths started climbing. Hmm.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:55:05 2020 No.12343004

>>12342976
>>12342983
China, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, Australia, Finland, Mongolia, Thailand, Uruguay, Malaysia, Pakistan, Turkey, Norway, Kazakhstan
In fact the only country in the world that has worse statistics than USA is Belgium. I find it really difficult to believe that being better than 2nd to worst in the entire world is "unavoidable".

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:59:10 2020 No.12343018 >>12343001 Hmmmmmmmm.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:01:10 2020 No.12343023 >>12343001 That doesn't make any sense Most of the COVID deaths should be from pneumonia

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:01:47 2020 No.12343026 >>12343004 US coronavirus deaths were massively inflated to make the Cheeto look bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:03:01 2020 No.12343033 >>12343023 What he is saying is that deaths which would normally be listed as pneumonia are now being listed as covid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:04:32 2020 No.12343040 >>12342820 t. future kidney transplant list waiter.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:16:10 2020 No.12343079

>>12343004
>China
Can't trust the numbers because they are a dystopian dictatorship.
>South Korea
Mass surveilance and culture of masks
>Japan, Singapore
Same as Korea
>Australia
Island
>Finland, Norway
Small country and people have a culture of keeping their distance
>Mongolia
Doesn't even test
>Thailand
Untrustworthy numbers
>Uruguay
Special exception in the middle of the worst affected continent
>Malaysia, Pakistan, Turkey, Kazakhstan
Can't trust the numbers and they don't test enough

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:17:10 2020 No.12343087 >>12343079 we are hitting intense levels of cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:17:59 2020 No.12343092 >>12343087 Argue against the points I raised instead of just resorting to fallacities.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:18:35 2020 No.12343094 >>12342820 based

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:18:58 2020 No.12343095 >>12343087 Everything he said was true. Why are Africa's levels not sky high? Because they don't test.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:19:09 2020 No.12343096

>>12343001
>>12343023
>>12343033
That's a load of crap. Pneumonia deaths are at 230k since February.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

The USA only averages 50k to 60k pneumonia deaths annually.
https://www.lung.org/getmedia/98f088b5-3fd7-4c43-a490-ba8f4747bd4d/pi-trend-report.pdf.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:21:35 2020 No.12343101 >>12343092 >>12343095 china burned corpses and bolted people into their homes. ofcourse they got rid of it. They aren't lying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:21:53 2020 No.12343102 >>12343092 >We have a culture of not wearing a a piece of cloth on our faces so the deaths are unavoidable

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:23:16 2020 No.12343108 >>12343101 China would not care about 4k deaths. It must've been tens of thousends of deaths before someone noticed what was going on. There is no reason to trust Chinese numbers at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:24:19 2020 No.12343111 >>12343102 I just wanted to explain why some Eastern Asian countries didn't have as many infections as the rest of the world had.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:25:48 2020 No.12343115

>>12343108
The government had the foresight to know the possible damage that could have occured had they not done anything, and took extreme measures
It appears to have paid off
Statistically the Chinese statistics are completely naturally and is corroborated with the fact that no local Chinese have noticed any outbreaks at all (yes, you can hear what is going on in China it is not North Korea, many Chinese living abroad and anonymously can be spread content through platforms such as douyin)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:28:00 2020 No.12343121 >>12343108 reddit trusts them. Good enough for me.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:29:43 2020 No.12343128

>>12343115
>It appears to have paid off
We don't have any kind of independent organisations that could validate that claim.
>Statistically the Chinese statistics are completely naturally and is corroborated with the fact that no local Chinese have noticed any outbreaks at all
That's not difficult at all in a dictatorship. Just lock people up for a month after some neighbourhood gets infected and claim it was a foreigner.
>many Chinese living abroad and anonymously can be spread content through platforms such as douyin
The Chinese are extremely indoctrinated and nationalistic with a good surveillance and control system, even in foreign countries.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:30:31 2020 No.12343130

>>12343115
>Statistically the Chinese statistics are completely naturally and is corroborated with the fact that no local Chinese have noticed any outbreaks at all
Well Wuhan's own residents were estimating over 40k COVID-19 deaths, yet China's official figure sits at under 5k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:30:45 2020 No.12343131 >>12343121 Reddit trusts everyone who isn't white or right wing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:31:42 2020 No.12343134 >>12342847 I’ve got all that shut regardless of COVID. Bring it on

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:31:45 2020 No.12343135 >>12343131 >china >not right wing

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:32:24 2020 No.12343137

>>12343128
How about that many fuerdai would pay thousands of dollars for a chartered flight to go back to China? Or multinational company internal testing like Tesla have no confirmed cases? Or that many countries like Korea, Singapore, Japan have fast track programs with China that allow business travelers? Clearly the governments of nations are trusting that China has controlled the virus

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:32:31 2020 No.12343138 >>12343135 How the fuck is China right wing? It's a communist-authoritarian country with some capitalist elements.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:34:17 2020 No.12343144 >>12343138 authoritarianism is right wing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:34:17 2020 No.12343145 >>12343138 It's clearly the most conservative, traditional, patriotic, family oriented modern country in the world now Usually such things are considered right wing but the definition is arbitrary

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:34:53 2020 No.12343149

>>12343137
I'm not saying China did not reduce the number of infections and deaths. But it's not fucking 20 a day. And the total number of cases and deaths is probably at least by a factor 10 higher for both figures.

Holy fuck why do you Chinese shills even have to do propaganda on 4chan of all places.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:37:39 2020 No.12343154 >>12343149 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gH4ZjX6Hk8 When China discovered 9 cases in Qingdao from imported meat, was testing every single person in the city just for publicity?

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:38:48 2020 No.12343157

>>12343144
No you fucking retard.
Authoritianism can be found on both the right and left wing spectrum.
>>12343145
China is an one party state where the economy is largely controlled by the government.
>It's clearly the most conservative, traditional, patriotic, family oriented modern country in the world now
China is not family friendly at all, nor is it conservative or traditional. Patriotic sure, but left wingers can be patriotic too.
>Usually such things are considered right wing but the definition is arbitrary
Again, China is not conservative and it's called a left wing country due to the massive control of the government over the economy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:40:06 2020 No.12343158 >>12343157 >China is not family friendly at all And you have exposed yourself as knowing nothing at all about Chinese culture

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:40:31 2020 No.12343159

>>12343154
>When China discovered 9 cases in Qingdao from imported meat, was testing every single person in the city just for publicity?
1. Do we have independent sources that verified that testing?
2. How reliable was the testing? The equipment the Chinese sent to other countries sucked.
3. Did the actual numbers get released or just arbitrary ones while the cases were dealt with in secret?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:43:04 2020 No.12343163 >>12343158 The Chinese work 20 hours a day and live in tiny containers. How is that supposed to be family friendly?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:45:42 2020 No.12343169 >>12342883 Really? You're an MD? You've personally diagnosed people with those conditions and you personally were able to connect them to COVID19? Or are you some rando on the internet repeating doomer porn to feel important?

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:46:16 2020 No.12343172

>>12342788
A year or so, either through vaccines or rampant uncontrolled spread of the disease. Imagine 5 years from now after several households ruined economic collapse, death or disability of household income contributors, several other secondary health effects from economic collapse, and a huge increase in demand for economic relief and medical access.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:48:07 2020 No.12343174 >>12342940 It's not about death. It's about the warts that it will grow on your nose and the webbing it creates between your fingers and toes. It's super serious and you must take it super serious or you'll turn into a toad!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:48:28 2020 No.12343176 >>12343144 The CCP's endgame is still communism and unlike Western leftist LARPers they've actually got a decent shot at implementing it. >>12343163 You're confusing China with Japan

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:49:33 2020 No.12343180 >>12343174 so i'll turn into pepe

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:51:01 2020 No.12343183 >>12343040 I'll destroy my liver long before any chinky virus harms my kidneys.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:57:55 2020 No.12343193

>>12343095
>Why are Africa's levels not sky high?
Practically no testing of anyone who isn't wealthy or a high government official.
Extremely young populations. The average age in Niger, Uganda, Mali, and Angola is 15. Most other African nations also have average age in the teens. Lots of them probably have it but don't know it.
Death is common in African countries and no one does a post mortem the vast majority of the time. If someone dies from covid, their family probably will think they died of AIDS, evil spirits, or a random infection as is very common there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:59:57 2020 No.12343199 >>12343108 >China would not care about 4k deaths. If the Three Gorges Dam burst and killed 300 million people, it'd be but a blip for China. Their population size is just insane.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:24:29 2020 No.12343235 >>12342827 april said the genius

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 01:57:44 2020 No.12343567

>>12342851
Damn crazy how all other diseases people catch dont have all these crazy fucking affects but the super hyped media bonanza virus might give people dementia. Or its over fucking hyped. Not saying its just a flu but positively no way it isnt iverhyped

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 02:00:41 2020 No.12343571 >>12343567 Well maybe because those other sicknesses don't affect pretty much everybody due to its insane infectivity?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:05:04 2020 No.12344760 >>12343199 >Losing ~21% of your population in one event is a blip. Why are /sci/tards so bad at math?

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:16:39 2020 No.12344802

>>12344760
It's true though. China wouldn't be in any sort of existential crisis from losing 21% of its population. They would have more than enough with their remaining 79% of the population to keep humming along and would be back to pre-dam break population levels in less than a generation.
The true danger from the Three Gorges Dam breaking would be the lost of infrastructure and agricultural production. COVID19 doesn't damage either of those.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:18:52 2020 No.12344809 >>12342788 Who cares. I already had it and it was nothing worse than a typical flu. It kills the elderly, who deserve death anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:19:45 2020 No.12344814 >>12342851 >unironic fear of the unknown How does it feel to be a credulous moron?

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:20:07 2020 No.12344818

>>12343571
Covid's infectivity is unremarkable. Compare it to measles or any of dozens of other commonly transmitted maladies. The only reason why anyone is scared of Covid at the macro level is because the Imperial College study made wild predictions for both 'do nothing' and 'go to extremes' that haven't come close to being true. We're operating on inertia from an improper initial push caused by criminally faulty models at Imperial.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:22:31 2020 No.12344829 >>12342788 >how long until every american gets covid Never because I will never get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:23:43 2020 No.12344830 Everyone at my workplace had it. It somehow spared me. They got over it. I'm hoping they don't get it again in three months.

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:30:37 2020 No.12344867

>>12342788
>TFW parents were initially paranoid af
>Now they want to have a 40 person gathering at their house for Xmas
>Anon it's going to be outside so sorry ya safe
>Everybody is old and none of them have made the slightest effort to protect themselves
Wew fucking lad

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:51:44 2020 No.12344949 Look at the bright side. We saved Medicare and Social Security!

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:53:19 2020 No.12344952 >>12344867 Why do you care?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:54:59 2020 No.12344960 >>12344952 Cause he doesn't want his parents dead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:56:32 2020 No.12344962 >>12344960 Odds are they'll be fine, but it's their life anyway. If his parents what to have covid parties or go base jumping, who is their son to say they shouldn't?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 12:59:58 2020 No.12344976 >>12344962 Because if you can't protect your own family and friends you are a waste of skin.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 13:02:19 2020 No.12344986 >>12344976 Your parents are not your children, it is not your responsibility to keep them safe against their own wishes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 13:13:19 2020 No.12345021 >>12342820 extremly based. Fuck boomer and fuck the weaklings

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 14:06:19 2020 No.12345176

>>12343169
>Really? You're an MD?
There's something called studies, where doctors and scientists report on the conditions of patients diagnosed with COVID-19. If you happen to know of one such study which established a patient developed super powers after contracting the virus, I'd love to see it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 14:25:41 2020 No.12345241 File: 41 KB, 749x428, zario.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12344809 >>12345021 careful with that edge there chump

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 14:26:50 2020 No.12345247 >>12345241 Why should I be, boomer?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:07:28 2020 No.12345751 >>12344818 >worse things exist, therefore it's unremarkable No, not really.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:10:15 2020 No.12345778 >>12342788 Does anyone else remember the whole "flatten the curve" thing? Or was that memory-holed?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:11:44 2020 No.12345796 >>12345778 they realized its impossible so they gave up. It will burn itself out soon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:13:56 2020 No.12345810 >>12345778 The intent of "flatten the curve" was to prevent hospitals from being overrun. Well that never happened, so you could say the curve was "flattened".

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:16:54 2020 No.12345833 >>12343144 pfffffffffffft

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:20:15 2020 No.12345851 >>12345810 >Well that never happened It did though. New York, Italy, Spain...

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:24:12 2020 No.12345875 >>12345851 even at the height of daily deaths in new york (mid april) hospitals weren't overwhelmed. Why where there no videos or pics from inside? Hoax.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:26:35 2020 No.12345885 File: 151 KB, 1440x960, E7KBFDYQSVC6LA43Y6HCEIKUDA[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12345875

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:28:25 2020 No.12345900 >>12345885 apparently nurses had time for posting on tiktok during all this

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:28:38 2020 No.12345903 File: 41 KB, 470x877, 26289770-8142013-Patients_can_be_seen_lying_on_the_floors_of_the_corridors_with_f-a-10_1584962814425[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12345875 Crisis actors?

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:31:15 2020 No.12345921

>>12344818
>Covid's infectivity is unremarkable. Compare it to measles or any of dozens of other commonly transmitted maladies.
True that it's nowhere near the level of the measles, but it's extremely infectious. Original estimates of placed the R0 at 2-4, but that was prior to mutations to the spike protein that allows binding to ACE-2 receptors, and it's been estimated that it's now 10x more efficient than the original strain in China.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:32:17 2020 No.12345926 >>12345875 Are you joking? Even in fucking Maryland, they were renting refrigerator trucks to place the dead bodies in because the morgues ran out of room.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:34:30 2020 No.12345938 >>12345926 why do they keep saying hospitals are at their limit and they're about to be overrun but it never actually happens? I don't see bodies piling up in the streets.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:35:02 2020 No.12345945 staten island btw

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:36:00 2020 No.12345950 >>12345851 No, that never happened. Not in New York. They never ran out of hospital beds in New York.

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:36:54 2020 No.12345957

>>12345938
>I don't see bodies piling up in the streets.
Do you really expect hospitals will just start tossing the bodies out the windows? They're doing exactly what I told you, renting trucks to place them in, and NYC even started burying them in trenches. It's almost like just leaving rotting, dead bodies in the street would be unsanitary and could cause alarm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:37:06 2020 No.12345958 >>12345926 That's not a real problem, that's a culturally imposed problem. If they couldn't muster enough bulldozers to push bodies into ditches, that would be a real problem.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:39:08 2020 No.12345967 >>12345950 I didn't say they did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:39:10 2020 No.12345968 >>12345957 >Do you really expect hospitals will just start tossing the bodies out the windows? if they're not the virus is a lot less dangerous than pol keeps saying

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:40:04 2020 No.12345979 >>12345968 by historic standards the bat flu is truly pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:41:22 2020 No.12345986 >>12345979 almost half the death toll of the smallest of the great plagues.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:42:45 2020 No.12345997 >>12345986 yeah, it's that pathetic. even worse when you look at it per capita.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:43:06 2020 No.12345999 >>12345958 >That's not a real problem, that's a culturally imposed problem. Sure, the same goes for shitting in the street. Go live in India.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 16:46:23 2020 No.12346013 File: 261 KB, 448x395, 1597426190441.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12345999 My cultural preference for pooing in the loo hasn't caused me any problems, so there's no logical reason for me to reevaluate that preference.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 17:26:16 2020 No.12346216 >>12342851

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 17:50:37 2020 No.12346356 >>12342851 And loss of semen production. That seems to be a big one.

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:24:41 2020 No.12348151

>>12342820
people like you just dont seem to understand that its not a huge chance you come out unscathed. first of all there a lot of blood clots after, even for young people. say you got a decent cough from it and your lungs were permanently scared by 5%. not a big deal but what happens when you keep getting it over and over again?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:25:42 2020 No.12348159 >>12348151 pneumonia can scar your lungs too retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:46:35 2020 No.12348226 File: 58 KB, 976x850, Pepe8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When did you catch covid, /sci/? I had it in July.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:47:46 2020 No.12348229 >>12348226 i sniffed coronachans feet.

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:48:24 2020 No.12348233

Meanwhile in people's brains:
>In a survey of 389 psychiatrists, carried out in June by the Royal College of Psychiatrists, 46% said they had seen a rise in workload involving emergency interventions and 55% also reported an increase in the number of patients needing urgent interventions.
>"We're also seeing an increase in the numbers of people, but also in the severity of their disorder and this is a very common thing that is being reported up and down the country."
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-psychiatrists-warn-of-coronavirus-lockdowns-toll-on-mental-health-12131309
Remember, if a person dies in an automobile accident while they have covid, that's a covid death. If a person commits suicide because they can't cope with the isolation and despair of the lockdowns, that's not lockdown related, that's just a mental health issue that was going to kill them anyway. Funny how doomer math works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:56:05 2020 No.12348263 >>12343134 No, you don't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:57:23 2020 No.12348266 >>12345247 Pride cometh before the fall, young retard. You're not invincible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 22:15:06 2020 No.12348328 >>12342956 >democracy is great but people like you shouldn't vote Got it

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 02:58:04 2020 No.12349200 >>12342788 it's already happened. this second wave is just reinfection cases now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 03:02:49 2020 No.12349212 >>12342841 Except that the vast majority of cases for any of the non vulnerable age groups aren't even close to severe or hospitalized, you fucking moron.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 03:03:39 2020 No.12349219 >>12343004 Look at the infection rates of every country and compare it to lockdown and mask mandates. There is absolutely no correlation.

Anonymous Mon Nov 16 03:09:27 2020 No.12349229

>>12343144
Hierarchy is right wing, yes, but authoritarianism, without the concepts of duty and accountability, for the purpose of enforcing an egalitarian utopia is not right wing. Commies claim its an intermediate state between capitalism and communism. It's incoherent, but all leftism is incoherent, so it's in good company.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 03:11:52 2020 No.12349236 >>12343158 China is family friendly but their families aren't friendly. Your family is your retirement plan, not your beloved kin. Aborting your daughters is also not particularly friendly, either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 03:12:55 2020 No.12349240 >>12345778 They had to memory hole it because it was an implicit admission that lockdowns don't reduce total cases.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 04:26:14 2020 No.12349402 >>12349219 Here in Melbourne Australia we went from 700 cases a day to 0 in two months of lockdown and masks that’s pretty weird huh

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 04:45:29 2020 No.12349453 File: 301 KB, 1182x687, lockdown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12349219 Are you sure about that?

Anonymous Mon Nov 16 06:28:38 2020 No.12349600

>>12349219
Here in korea, cases go to 400 per day from Sarang jaeil church outbreak in Seoul
Increase social distancing to no karaoke, no internet cafe, no dining indoors after 9pm, mask usage mandatory (~80usd fine for not wearing)
Cases goes back down to 30 per day
Reduce social distancing to level 1
Cases back to 100+ per day
very strange..

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 06:35:10 2020 No.12349604 Covid fags are so annoying. Nobody knows anybody with covid19, It’s all some big (((trick))). >muh exponential growth

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 06:36:13 2020 No.12349608 >>12342972 Then go live there

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 06:39:33 2020 No.12349613 >>12349608 I already do

Anonymous Mon Nov 16 06:54:59 2020 No.12349639
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>>12349453
My country (Argentina) went full retard with a 8 month lockdown and mandatory facemasks. It didn't work. Or more accurately, it worked until it didn't.

Because you can't leave people locked down forever. People need to work. Lockdowns are not a solution, just a stopgap.

They will never admit it, but our government has basically given up.
Now, you have second waves in Europe, which proves Sweden was right all along.

Anonymous Mon Nov 16 07:03:16 2020 No.12349643
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>>12349639
Same chart but with deaths per million.
Sweden was right in its approach.
Even if had a second wave, it's much smaller than in the rest of Europe. When this is all over they will emerge revindicated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 07:08:25 2020 No.12349650 >>12349643 it kind of looks like under all the curves has the same area though

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 07:11:45 2020 No.12349653 >>12349650 Exactly. That's why Sweden was right. No pointless damage done to their economy, same amount of deaths. Here we are looking at a -12% GDP contraction, compared to Brazil -4%, Sweden -4%.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 08:06:51 2020 No.12349757 >>12342985 >10 months to go from 0 to 250,000 deaths >3 months to go from 250,000 to 500,000-600,000 deaths wat

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 08:25:05 2020 No.12349789 >>12344867 literally same, my parents were scared and paranoid as fuck then but now they don't give a fuck anymore and will go out at every opportunity and won't even wash their hands anymore when they get back

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 08:28:16 2020 No.12349793 >>12349653 Would be great if you compared Sweden to their neighbours. Also, Sweden is closing down as we speak with similar measures as they have in other countries.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 08:28:26 2020 No.12349794 >>12344986 >Your parents are not your children they wiped your ass and fed you, the least you could do is convince them to be less stupid

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 14:57:01 2020 No.12350828 >>12342835 >does something about it What the fuck is he going to do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 14:58:37 2020 No.12350830 >>12350828 At the very least attend the meetings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 15:07:56 2020 No.12350848 >>12350830 Not really going to accomplish anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 15:18:26 2020 No.12350893 >>12350848 Everything is better than the current shit show.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 15:23:20 2020 No.12350910 >>12350893 You could put an actual doctor in the White House and it wouldn't significantly alter the progress of the disease.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 15:45:17 2020 No.12350978 >>12350910 Nothing can be done? Just give up?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 21:35:37 2020 No.12352354 >>12342835 Bullshit, it is just a fucking cold.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 23:29:22 2020 No.12352820 >>12352354 when did the cold kill a quarter of a million mutts in under a year?

Anonymous Mon Nov 16 23:46:47 2020 No.12352905

>>12352354
>induces cytokine and bradykinin storms, recking neuronal and pulmonary tissue
>disables t-cells and stays in your bone marrow for life
SARS-NCOV-2 came from a lab. It's the closest thing to airborne aids we've got. The problem isn't muh death like retard who replied to you said. Its chronic mild illness for healthy adults. I don't want this shit in my body and China needs to pay. You get COVID-19, you'll suffer life long consequences.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 00:27:06 2020 No.12353123 >>12350978 (You) can bunker down

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 00:37:12 2020 No.12353172

If there were no vaccines probably 3 years for everyone in america to catch it, same as the spanish flu.

Luckily there are vaccines and they are looking really effective so this shitshow in America should be coming to an end by mid next year.

And from there its just math, You would be halfway through your 3 year period to infect everyone, the thing is kind of exponential, so my prediction is by the time the vaccine is rolled out 20% of Americans will have had Covid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 00:41:48 2020 No.12353195 >>12353172 what if the vaccine doesn't work?

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 00:47:15 2020 No.12353225

>>12342879
>If you under 20 it is about equal to the common cold
idk i had it and it was worse than a cold. One night it climaxed and out of nowhere I got hot sweats and started coofing like a maniac and my breathing was fucked. I am not fat, but I'm probably obese like the rest of America. Oddly enough though, I never had a temperature.
When I went to get tested, I told the doctor my symptoms and he was like
>oh you have COVID. If it comes back negative it's a false neg.
and the test came back positive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 00:53:25 2020 No.12353260 >>12353195 pfizer and moderna have both got results from there massive phase 3 trials now, both are over 90% effective. The fact both of them where tested on 1000s and 1000s of people and both of them have very similar success rate means they work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:07:52 2020 No.12353321 >>12353260 Long term effects though. It may work but what if I get fucked up from taking it 5 years down the road

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:10:32 2020 No.12353330 I live in California and know like 10 people that have got it, all pretty young and most have fucked up side effects like no smell, weird brain issues and one girl had super fucked up lungs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:13:58 2020 No.12353343 >>12353330 >I live in California opinion discarded. Your friends are probably all mexicans who it affects more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:16:34 2020 No.12353368 >>12353330 All the Mexicans got kicked out of my area by the Asians. The mall near me has the directory signs half in English and half in Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:20:15 2020 No.12353390 >>12353343 back to pol, chud. cope sneed nazi!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:21:34 2020 No.12353401 >>12353390 name one white person it killed under 20

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:22:43 2020 No.12353405 >>12353401 I don’t know anyone personally that it killed. Literally all the people I know recovered.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:25:00 2020 No.12353415 >>12353401 me almost I think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:31:23 2020 No.12353444 >>12350978 You can manage your own risk. Just accept that culturally Americans won't go through another lock down and that people will get uppity (ie riot) without social interaction. We aren't Japan with a high trust society.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:33:40 2020 No.12353452 >>12353444 This unfortunately. If I have to go through another full lockdown I’m going to start killing district attorneys.

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:37:58 2020 No.12353473

>>12353405
you said all the people you know who were affected by it have permanent damage now. Imagine how fucked this world is, being a kid in this clown world.
>2080
>my grandmother had covid when she was a teenager and it destroyed her lungs. People back in 2020 were retarded. If only they knew to make vaccines equipped with quantum molecular phasing technology that imbues each cell with an impenetrable layer of antibodies that viruses can't break through the pandemic would never have happened
future generations will look at us the same way we look at the ignorance of people who thought the sun went around the earth 400 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:41:09 2020 No.12353486 >>12353473 I dunno if you know anyone with kids trying to do their education through zoom classes, but basically this generation is gonna be absolute retarded.

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:42:59 2020 No.12353500

>>12353486
i don't hate zoomers. I feel sorry for them. They don't know what a non-terrified world looks like because a post 9/11 one is all they know. The economic damage the virus did, even it the virus went away in a few months, is going to take years to recover from.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:44:58 2020 No.12353512 >>12353500 I'm a Zoomer who was born after 9/11 and I am just fucking losing my mind >>>/pol/291240997

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:48:03 2020 No.12353524

>>12353512
life is unfair. people die everyday who are not even a year old from diseases, never having a chance to experience life. Nobody can explain why. Evil is a force that is ingrained in nature itself. The lion kills the gazelle. It orphans the gazelles children to feed its own. An ant colony goes to war with another, and the winning ants gain a larger territory. A group of chimpanzees gang up on a rival chimpanzee, and beat him brutally to death. Evil has always existed, but humans are just the first species intelligent enough to realize it for what it is, and lament its horrors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 02:06:01 2020 No.12353568 >>12344962 >sure grandma, go skydiving you will be fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 02:50:58 2020 No.12353655 >>12353401 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/college-student-dies-covid.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 02:53:48 2020 No.12353662 >>12353655 black

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 02:55:42 2020 No.12353664 >>12353662 https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/18-year-old-college-student-dies-after-lengthy-hospitalization-due-to-covid-19/2358694/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 02:59:03 2020 No.12353669 >>12353664 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109867/coronavirus-death-rates-by-age-new-york-city/ almost half as many deaths as the weakest of the great plagues. Truly pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 06:22:02 2020 No.12353965 >>12344986 >American values No wonder most Americans are poor and unsuccessful, retard American parents throw their children out on the street ASAP, retarded American children do the same with their parents when they are older.

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Anonymous Tue Nov 17 14:52:46 2020 No.12355711
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>>12342788
I'm scared bros. I live in New Jersey where the rate is quickly approaching 9% infected. Now we can't even have over 10 people over at a time. I have asthma myself so I am even more nervous (even if it's mostly controlled).
>Only boomers die!
It's a 2% chance of death which is more than anyone should have to gamble. Plus it already killed off one of my Church leaders.

Where can I move to? Between the pending civil war with Trumpschizos, the ignorance and arrogance the population has with science/Covid and /uni/ likely shutting down for next semester too, I think I need to escape for a bit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 15:05:08 2020 No.12355751 File: 729 KB, 1483x1500, corona hooves.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12355711 just sniff her feet and get it over with

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 15:42:30 2020 No.12355909 >>12353500 >years Decades. The consequences of what's being done both on a government level and in the business world is still being hidden by the mostly shutdown economy. When things get "back to normal", all of this debt is going to blow up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 16:56:32 2020 No.12356203 >>12342985 >Take the vaccine people lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 17:21:24 2020 No.12356281 >>12355711 >It's a 2% chance of death which is more than anyone should have to gamble. You know life has a 100% chance of death? Maybe you should have thought of that before you were born.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 21:32:12 2020 No.12356950 What went wrong bros?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 21:52:53 2020 No.12356994 >>12356281 >You know life has a 100% chance of death? That's incredibly stupid anon. Might as well tell someone to jump out of a plane without a parachute, sure they'll probably die, but they have a 100% chance of dying some day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 23:09:42 2020 No.12357131 >>12353452 In minecraft I presume

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 23:30:11 2020 No.12357161 >>12355711 I got it twice but was asymptomatic so you'll probably be fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 06:30:41 2020 No.12357843 >>12357161 >I fucked hookers without a condom twice and didn't get AIDS, so go ahead and fuck some too, you'll probably be fine.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 14:58:54 2020 No.12359042

>>12349793
We cannot yet evaluate the effectiveness of this move, and it was likely at least partly due to public push and criticism. Their graph already looked pretty good IMO, after they lost all those elderly in the nursing homes. AFAIK the Swedes wanted it more strict measures, despite gov't waiting for more evidence to support it being the right move.

My question is, what IS the right move at this point? I've not yet come to a firm conclusion regarding the effectiveness of masks and lockdowns, but believe they are both socially unsustainable as long as a vaccine is not being rolled out at the same time. Hinging a plan on a hypothetical seems bad move. Barring some China style event that breaks the social instability. The simplest solution is obviously to let people govern themselves, but this comes at the cost of a lot of death, largely due to ignorance that the media forced on us by polarizing the topic, and entrenching beliefs on both sides.

I try not to have an opinion on this stuff as it's just divisive, even among my close friends. I try to remain detached, objective and skeptical (due to the complexity of the situation, so many variables) but my friends, who are not mathematically or logically inclined are all so entrenched that if I voice any opposition, right or left, I've created some friction in our relationship. They think I'm implying things or 'taking a side' when really I most often just try and paint a picture of how complex and inherently unknowable these things are. Unfortunately this concept is true for most topics these days.
>itsallsotiresome.png

Luckily I live in a rural area and work from home. I just put gloves and a mask on and wash frequently. Better safe than sorry but I don't believe in imposing rules on others without more clear evidence. We saw what happened with the Patriot Act.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:13:30 2020 No.12359091 >>12359042 Balanced post. I like it. I'm a bit biased as a Norwegian, but Sweden recorded 96 deaths today. 61 yesterday and they have a total of 6000+ deaths so far. We have a total of 300 deaths. I prefer our approach.

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:41:05 2020 No.12359219

>>12359091
You guys don't really have the polarizing media circus we have in the USA right? I think that's our biggest problem, along with different policies between states and open travel between them. I just read about the Norwegian response and see you guys quarantine incoming people for 10 days, which we don't do at all (interstate at least). With the state of the media in the US I'm just not really sure what our best move would be.

I also feel that Sweden is likely just getting the deaths out of the way sooner, and that if this goes on long enough your death totals per capital may be very similar (considering some degree of inherent randomness ofc).

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:43:20 2020 No.12359224

>>12359091
That is insane difference in death totals though, I read 3000 the first time so nevermind about my latter comment about Sweden getting them out the way first; that's a huge difference between the two. Nice you guys have enough unity and respect going on, not schizophrenic paranoia and enough real corruption to justify it like what we have. Can't really blame the schizos and deniers desu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 15:44:11 2020 No.12359230 >>12342883 Are American brains simply unable to consider the impact on anyone but themselves? What is the source of this great retardation of normal human function?

Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:17:57 2020 No.12359320

>>12359219
>>12359224
We are lucky. The authorities have been very open and available. There has been very little politicization. They don't talk in absolutes, but are open about uncertainties and different approaches. There are open discussions in the media where different views are presented and the authorities respond when challenged. It's a completely different world from America.

I think the communication part is one of the reason it has been successful (so far). You have to get your citizens on board. But honestly who knows if our approach or Sweden's approach is the best one in the long run. We will see. I'm comfortable were we are at now though.

Most of the infections now come from abroad. Foreign workers that were either exempted or broke quarantine.

A little caveat: Sweden has 2x the population with virtually all of them living in the south. We are more spread out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:41:58 2020 No.12359410 >>12346356 that was Utopia vax plot you retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 16:48:13 2020 No.12359433 >>12357843 true, see stephan zweig's the world of yesterday. It tells you the truth about hookers, they didn't get aids back then, but still...

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:17:03 2020 No.12359730 >>12359410 I don't know what that's supposed to mean, but here: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30348-5/fulltext

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 18:31:11 2020 No.12359796 >>12349212 Read before posting, or better yet, go back. Most people with long term effects didn’t have severe cases

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 07:52:28 2020 No.12361806

>>12343108
There are likely millions of expats living in China. Any death around them will be huge news, unless you think that any foreign person became a CCP shill the moment they land in China, which would be much more serious problem than covid numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 08:18:20 2020 No.12361865 >>12359230 Diversity The less similar the genetic, you occupy a different region of experiential space

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 08:29:56 2020 No.12361883

>ITT non-claps care more about the average life expectancy of claps falling than claps
Fuck them, at this point all the rest of the world can do is close their boarders to the US and try to take advantage of the long term economic effects of US life expectancy and productivity falling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 08:40:19 2020 No.12361900 >>12342788 things will improve drastically exact moment orange pringles man is gone. He is one and only root of all of our problems.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:46:59 2020 No.12362984 File: 94 KB, 619x436, tokyo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12343111 >I just wanted to explain why some Eastern Asian countries didn't have as many infections as the rest of the world had. It's a mystery.

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:14:01 2020 No.12363041
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>>12345247
Another bug could come along that preferentially kills the young, like the Spanish Flu, and your surviving elders will remember your selfishness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Patterns_of_fatality

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:53:06 2020 No.12363131 >>12355711 take your anti anxiety meds loser

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 15:58:29 2020 No.12363146 >>12363041 but you said everyone who catches it gets dementia

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 16:53:23 2020 No.12363337 Fat Americlaps die because they're fat and old. Japs are in good physical condition and shame fattys. The chink flu kills fat retards so who cares.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:46:56 2020 No.12364051 >>12363041 God I wish. We need a zoomer purging flu badly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:52:56 2020 No.12364065 >>12364051 god doesn't exist because young are allowed to die

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:54:01 2020 No.12364072 >>12364065 You presume a god would care.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:54:59 2020 No.12364075 >>12363146 kekt and rekt

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 19:55:38 2020 No.12364076 File: 108 KB, 500x667, christianity.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12364072

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:10:45 2020 No.12364117 >>12364076 That doesn't seem to support your presumption. The conclusion that a good is not good or not loving isn't ruled out by anything. Also, >christianity.png Are you also presuming the christian god specifically?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:12:57 2020 No.12364124 >>12364117 the christian god is the only one that claims to be all powerful and all knowing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:14:27 2020 No.12364132 >>12364124 What do such claims have to do with this conversation?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:18:30 2020 No.12364139 >>12364132 because im a zoomer and probably will be dead soon so fuck life

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:20:07 2020 No.12364142 >>12364139 What does you being a zoomer with a death wish have to do with the presumption that a hypothetical god specifically be an all powerful and knowing christian god?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:21:15 2020 No.12364146 >>12364142 i don't have a death wish. The virus will kill me. I already had this weird feeling in my lungs in january 2019 and it still didn't go away.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:23:08 2020 No.12364148 >>12364146 This still does not support your presumption that a god would have the properties attributed to the god christians believe in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:24:26 2020 No.12364152 >>12364148 if god doesn't have special powers why is he god?

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:31:54 2020 No.12364183

>>12364152
Must a god have those specific qualities? You said yourself only the christian god is claimed to have these qualities (I doubt that, but let's roll with it.) There are many other god described by religions throughout history and across cultures. The qualities attributed to these gods are very diverse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:34:38 2020 No.12364192 >>12364183 still doesn't explain why he allows 2 month olds to die from this virus

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:34:58 2020 No.12364195 >>12348233 >Remember, if a person dies in an automobile accident while they have covid, that's a covid death. No its not you fucking Qanon turd faggot

Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:37:14 2020 No.12364203

>>12364192
Perhaps a god would allow a 2 month old to die because the god thinks that is hilarious. Or maybe the god draws power from child sacrifice. Or maybe the god doesn't care about humans and instead only cares about the wellbeing of Martians. Or maybe the god has been taking a million year nap. There are a myriad of possibilities, which you seem blind to because you have limited the scope of your consideration to gods with the properties attributed by christians to their god.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 20:37:14 2020 No.12364204 >>12359042 Right move was to not be retarded and obsessed with MUH FREEDOM If they had done a china-style lockdown across the west for a month, this shit would have ended by April

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 22:07:56 2020 No.12364592 >>12342788 >They're not even trying anymore. Sorry, but I haven't given a flying fuck in months. I don't care. You cannot force me to care. Many others feel similarly

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 22:50:49 2020 No.12364721 >>12364204 I prefer the way it's going right now to that "china-style" approach.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 23:00:31 2020 No.12364747 >>12364204 You should move to China. You'll get what you deserve.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 23:01:50 2020 No.12364754 >>12364195 Well, except it is, at least in the US where the death numbers are based on death WITH covid, not death FROM covid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 23:26:47 2020 No.12364836 >>12364754 COVID-19 is listed as the underlying cause of death on 95% of the death certificates. Your motorcycle story would fall under the other 5%.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:19:29 2020 No.12365084 >>12342788 Who cares? It has virtually no effect on a healthy person. Even Orange Man got over it in a couple of days.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:23:21 2020 No.12365095 >>12365084 >Even Orange Man got over it in a couple of days. he has access to the best doctors on earth you absolute retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:23:53 2020 No.12365096 >>12364836 It's funny how doomers have to resort to outright lies to keep their fearmongering going.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:26:44 2020 No.12365099 >>12342788 we can end covid by killing each. just wait till the next civil war

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:27:56 2020 No.12365104 >>12365095 So? To re-iterate: >It has virtually no effect on a healthy person What exactly are you so worried about that you want to get a vaccine for this trivial thing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:30:05 2020 No.12365111 >>12365104 >no effect on a healthy person that isn't really true. I saw someone say on pol they had it and had migraines every day for like 3 months. What the fuck is this virus. He was 30 by the way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:32:39 2020 No.12365119 >>12365104 It's baffling how uninformed people are here. A vaccine is not just to protect you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:34:11 2020 No.12365121 File: 32 KB, 600x688, 361.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12365119 >A vaccine is not just to protect you.

Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:35:13 2020 No.12365123

>>12365119
And it's baffling how compliant other people are here. Doesn't it strike you as odd, the timing of this announcement? Blorpft himself said that there would be a vaccine around Christmas, and the entire media shat on him for it
>HAHAHA ORANGE MAN BAD THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE A VACCINE THAT FACE
Yet here we are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:35:23 2020 No.12365124 >>12365119 >A vaccine is not just to protect you. Then I shouldn't care. In point of fact, the more the vulnerable population suffers and dies, the better off I'll be in the long run. Less people = more capital, more jobs.

Anonymous Fri Nov 20 01:36:35 2020 No.12365127

>>12365119
Look after your own affairs, and let other people look after theirs. They can get vaccinated if they're at risk. No virus eradication scheme in history has relied upon universal vaccination. Smallpox was treated by localised vaccination. There's not even talk about doing that this time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 02:01:31 2020 No.12365168 >>12365119 faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 03:53:51 2020 No.12365389 >>12342945 Perhaps because the test was set up so 2-3% of the results will always be positive? A positive result does not correlate with any symptoms, let that sink in.

Anonymous Fri Nov 20 04:40:58 2020 No.12365466

>>12342841
Its just the flu. Normal flu can kill you too. Have you ever had a high fever? Some people go blind over a fever. One of my uni math teachers died from some flu-pneumonia lung thing 20 years ago, he was 49, he tought it was just a flu. He was right it was just a flu, people have died from flu and fever and hemorrhoids and ulcers and heart attacks at 36 forever. Its normal, 1% of the population dies every year.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 04:43:12 2020 No.12365472 File: 1.17 MB, 1080x1241, Screenshot_20201120-114158~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12362984 Who is this man? Enhance..

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 04:46:06 2020 No.12365476 >>12365168 >faggot Why the homophobia?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 04:53:52 2020 No.12365495 >>12365466 It's not about dying, you sub 80IQ nigger. Read the post you responded to. covid19 is not like the flu, especially because of the long lasting effects on your body.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 05:10:39 2020 No.12365531 >>12365495 Nigger i talked too about lasting effects. A high fever will cook your organs and there is no decooking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 05:10:49 2020 No.12365532 >>12365495 >covid19 is not like the flu How do you know?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 05:32:54 2020 No.12365573 >>12365532 Not him, but by actually not closing your eyes in front of everything going on currently.

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