/sfg/ - Space Flight General:

[Anonymous No.12332757]

Kino photographs edition

Previous >>12329154

[Anonymous No.12332764]

>Kino photographs

[Anonymous No.12332766]

>>12332757
From previous thread
>https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/independent-review-indicates-nasa-prepared-for-mars-sample-return-campaign

NASA being optimistic as usual

[Lovelace No.12332767]

Fuck boing and fuck urf

[Anonymous No.12332769]

Fuck space

[Anonymous No.12332771]

>>12332757
SLS Will launch before Starship, and makes more sense on paper, coping doesn't make starship better

[Anonymous No.12332772]

>>12332766
Nobody thinks the Perserverance samples are ever going to be collected, right? I mean maybe by Martian archeologists at some point as an historical artifact of the dark ages when cost-plus ruled the Earth.

[Lovelace No.12332773]

>>12332766
>>12332741
>bring back martian regolith
>WE'RE GOING TO SCIENCE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS
>receive martian regolith in 2035
>ok so uh, turns out its just a few grams of rock dust, but SCIENCE n shieet muhfugga we wuz one small step n shieeet

[Anonymous No.12332777]

>>12332764
I like to imagine that the workers just finished painting the External Fuel Tank when one points out that painting it is redundant and could save weight by not doing it.
Imagine the stink eye that one guy gets

[Lovelace No.12332779]

>>12332777
>you know how long I spent painting this cunt? I fucking DREAM orange.

[Anonymous No.12332781]

>>12332771
i started writing a rebuttal but decided not to waste time on this shitty bait

[Anonymous No.12332789]

>>12332781
The guy who made it either a troll or delusional

[Anonymous No.12332813]

>>12332771
>on paper
Science fiction is that way >>>/lit/

[Anonymous No.12332841]

Have you guys ever LARPed as some kinda crazy anti-space person because it was funny?

[Anonymous No.12332843]

>>12332789
https://archive.is/Nv2nQ

> 04/03/17

>The problem is that they don't. Assuming FH flies late this summer, the SLS will have taken longer and costed far more to develop than it took to bootstrap a new space company from scratch, develop a moderate-lift orbital rocket, make the damn thing land itself, and develop a self-landing heavy-lift vehicle.

>That's insane. It means that NASA potentially could've had their heavy lift rocket faster and cheaper if they had started a new company and developed it from scratch than they would have with the "duct tape it together" plan.

Nasa's budget is 22.6 billion,

Musk estimated that Starlink could bring in revenue of $30 billion a year – or about 10 times the highest annual revenue SpaceX expects from its core rocket business. SpaceX deploys 60 Starlink satellites in orbit.

[Anonymous No.12332847]

>12332841

Flat earthers like like on government pay roll.

CIA has a audio recording of US troops raping young boys at gitmo, and it was so hellish that captured women begged for US troops to execute them.

[Anonymous No.12332884]

>>12332841
No because anti-space depresses me too much to joke about. Space exploration is one of the only things I'm able to care about.

[Anonymous No.12332906]

Long March 8 already Vertical.

[Anonymous No.12332912]

>>12332906
How do hypergolics compare to kerosene? I’d assume the thruster for hypergolics is less mechanically complex and maybe lighter

[Anonymous No.12332913]

>>12332789
Those excessive ellipses are the sign of a 100% genuine, delusional boomer.

[Anonymous No.12332914]

>>12332906
How many rocket sweatshops does China have holy shit
They are just cranking them out

[Anonymous No.12332917]

>>12332912
Hypergolics jave Reliable Ignition but less performance compared to Kerolox.
Also the fact that Chinese Launch Vehicle technology is based on their hypergolic Ballistic missile technology like the Dong Feng.

[Anonymous No.12332918]

>>12332914
Oh yes, there will be a launch from Xichang today 1600UTC. NOTAMs are out too.

[Anonymous No.12332920]

>>12332912
However, long March 8 will be using kerolox Staged combustion engines(YF-100)

[Anonymous No.12332940]

>>12332912
The main thing that's nice about hypergolics is that you don't need a complicated ignition system, you just pump. Shutdown is also very easy. This means that for extremely short burns or adjustment pulses, hypergolics are typically going to be more responsive and can be made more compact.

[Anonymous No.12332974]

>>12332771
>2 billion to launch
>it's okay guys it'll only cost 750 million later
>still several times more expensive than starship ever could

[Anonymous No.12332980]

>>12332974

hey, atleast they passed a law that mandates the use of the Senate launch system for some missions.

[Anonymous No.12332984]

>>12332917
to be fair, all rockets are dong when you think about this

[Anonymous No.12332985]

>>12332974
>it's okay guys it'll only cost 750 million later

Kek this shit is such cope, it's never going to cost less than one thousand million dollars a launch. Hopefully starship will pillow that shit in its cradle though.

[Anonymous No.12332988]

>>12332764
>They painted this giant fuckery adding extra weight
>TWICE

[Anonymous No.12332990]

>>12332985

The SLS will never get cheaper, the shuttle became more expensive over time.

[Anonymous No.12333007]

>Starship isn't a spaceplane
fuck you, it is
it flies at an angle and shti

[Anonymous No.12333013]

>>12332767
take your name off you double nigger

[Namey McNameface No.12333017]

>>12333013
what's wrong with names

[Anonymous No.12333018]

>>12333017
they're UGLEH

[Red Engineer No.12333021]

>>12333018
you're ugleh

[Anonymous No.12333034]

>>12331732
is this a real article

[Anonymous No.12333035]

>>12332789
>300 million per launch
oldpsace wishes this were true

[Anonymous No.12333036]

>>12333034
No. It’d be pretty funny if it were, though.

[Anonymous No.12333042]

Why are the SLS test flights using heritage engines?

[Anonymous No.12333044]

>>12333007
A 70 degree AoA is nearly perpendicular to the direction of travel. I think you'd get just as far by claiming that a sky-diver is a glider.

> are you replying to bait?
Yes, sorry 4chan.

[Anonymous No.12333047]

>>12333044
it's not bait, it's the truth
the shuttle did 60 degree AoA

[Anonymous No.12333067]

>>12333047
> 60 degree
Is that where is was during its landing approach or was that during reentry?

[Anonymous No.12333068]

>>12333067
reentry

[Red Engineer No.12333080]

>>12333067
>60 degree landing approach
the most kerbal of landing approaches

[Anonymous No.12333084]

How can I work on space craft, I have a degree in math and computer science. I'm also not a US citizen.

[Anonymous No.12333086]

>>12333084
whose subject are you

[Anonymous No.12333092]

>>12333086
I'm a citizen of the Commonwealth of Australia.
I guess that makes me a subject of the Australian Government.

[Anonymous No.12333093]

What's oldspace?

[Red Engineer No.12333098]

>>12333093
a relic, a pale shadow of better times

[Anonymous No.12333099]

>>12333092
you're a subject of the Queen of England
uhhhhh I think there's some shit going down in either Woomera or somewhere up north, you could try contacting Steven Pietrobon maybe

[Anonymous No.12333107]

>>12333084
Given your background, writing flight control software would probably be the easiest way into the aerospace industry. No idea what kind of specific competencies they want in that field, but you could probably get a good sense for it by looking at job postings for control engineers on the companies’ websites.

[Anonymous No.12333113]

>>12333099
>where did you here my name
anon recommended you on 4chan

>>12333107
Know of any open source "problems" or "challenge" websites or anything?
Preferably something I could do solo.

[Anonymous No.12333114]

Long March 8 is probably not going to land given the lack of grid fins and landing legs

[Anonymous No.12333115]

>>12333084
also consider opportunities in china or india

[Anonymous No.12333117]

>>12333113
Steven is a famous NSF forumgoer and a big supporter of Australia's homegrown space efforts
go find the australia threads in NSF's commercial spaceflight subforum

[Anonymous No.12333118]

>>12333114
won;t stop them attempting a suicide burn maneuver for testing

[Anonymous No.12333123]

>>12332771
It will be a good show

[Anonymous No.12333128]

>>12333117
I've found the threads with him talking about Australia but no Australia general or anything.

[Anonymous No.12333129]

>>12333128
yeah I mean you've seen him, just drop him a DM or email

[Anonymous No.12333136]

>>12333129
I will at some point, I got a contract job coming up. I don't want to start the conversation and then say I can't do anything. But thanks, I will remember his name.

[Anonymous No.12333154]

>>12333117
Australia here, what the fuck does he even talk about? Our space industry is a desolate wasteland, outstripped by some commie Koreans with a budget of four potatoes.

[Anonymous No.12333158]

>>12333154
After reading his posts on the forum, linkedin, and the small worlds website, it seems he wants to change that.

[Anonymous No.12333161]

>>12333080
>>12333068
> 60 degrees at reentry and not in the glide phase
This was my point. The shuttle was a space plane because it had the ability to glide while Starship will only ever be falling. It is the gliding that marks the difference. The AoA of 70 is there for nearly the entire fall while the shuttle dropped to an AoA that let it glide as soon as it it could safely do so.

[Anonymous No.12333162]

>>12333161
>it is the gliding that marks the difference
I disagree but respect your opinion

[Anonymous No.12333163]

>>12333158
That's based and honourable but good luck given our absolute aids tier government.

[Anonymous No.12333166]

>>12333092
There is some SETI type stuff in oz e.g. https://www.aca.unsw.edu.au/

[Anonymous No.12333168]

>>12333114
>Long March 8
it looks like there's mounting points for the central landing legs
what a dumb looking rocket lmao

[Anonymous No.12333176]

>>12333166
Yeah I've been looking at some CSIRO things

[Anonymous No.12333177]

How can we marsform Terra?

[Anonymous No.12333179]

>>12333163
>>12333166
So I found that we do have a Space Agency but it's so small that I don't think it even has a website or people running it full time.
It's more of just an idea that a bunch of already existing government departments will work together for the interest of space research.

[Anonymous No.12333180]

>>12333166
Australia also has one of the OG verifiable ayy encounters

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westall_UFO

>practically whole school sees ayy lmao land on the sports field and fuck around for a bit before yeeting off into the distance
>official explanation: idk like a rogue wind sock bro lmao?
>mfw

Seems legit

[Anonymous No.12333187]

>>12333180
>m
PHONE POSTERS OUT

[Anonymous No.12333190]

>>12333187
I'm lying in bed about to go to sleep, stop seething nigger.

[Anonymous No.12333197]

>>12333190
YAWN
aren't you tired anon?
AHHH YAAWWN
I'm sure getting sleepy

[Anonymous No.12333202]

>>12333162
Why do you say that the ability to glide along a plane does not mark the difference between a plane and whatever the starship ought to be called? I know argument is the fashion on 4chan but I really would like to know. I'm not an expert and know what I do not know.

[Anonymous No.12333206]

>>12333202
planes start looking weird when they're optimized for hypersonic flight

[Anonymous No.12333211]

So after doing some digging.
I have found that the Australian Space Agency is in its infancy and here is a presentation they gave this year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekR7ajmgIrc..
Unfortunately it's quite dry.
But there you go, it does exist.

[Anonymous No.12333248]

So did SN8 ever hop?

[Anonymous No.12333249]

>>12333114
>using solid rocket boosters on a rocket meant to be reusable

[Anonymous No.12333262]

>>12333206
Even optimised for super sonic flight, a plane has to be able to fly along a plane. If the engines cut out, a super sonic aircraft will still have a glide profile though, granted, not a very good one. Starship will have no such ability. Can you offer an explanation of the implied opinion that starship is a space plane? Is there a rational? What is it about the ballistic flappy-tube that makes you say its a space plane? What makes it a plane? (The space part is pretty obvious, I think.)
I just asked a lot of questions but I think the last one is the only one that's really relevant.

[Anonymous No.12333265]

>>12333211

[Anonymous No.12333268]

>>12333262
the important part of the flappy-tube is that it has flappy bits, it's the only distinguishing element from a biconic or truncated conical reentry vehicle

[Anonymous No.12333271]

>>12333265
already a member

[Red Engineer No.12333277]

What does /sfg/ think of my horrific crossover of an atlas V first stage and a titan IV upper stage?

[Anonymous No.12333278]

>>12332757
>Kino photographs edition

[Red Engineer No.12333279]

>>12333277
silence

[Anonymous No.12333285]

>>12333279

[Anonymous No.12333293]

>>12333279
wow runescape sure looks different now

[Anonymous No.12333296]

>>12333278

[Anonymous No.12333302]

>>12333268
The flappy bits do not significantly deviate the craft from its ballistic path. It changes attitude but has little effect on the actual trajectory.

[Anonymous No.12333305]

>>12333302
incorrect but also irrelevant
the flappy bits comprise a significant fraction of the craft's lifting area

[Anonymous No.12333307]

>>12333296

[Anonymous No.12333308]

man on a roofpilled

[Anonymous No.12333314]

very pretty rocket that does thermal aeroentry as a spaceplane

[Anonymous No.12333339]

>>12333265
pic
>>12332789
>shuttle
>300 million per launch
Wasn't it more like 500+ million per launch when you count more than just the marginal cost of each launch? Shuttle wishes it only cost 300M per launch.

[Anonymous No.12333341]

>>12333296
That Soyuz shouldn‘t have tried taking the cheese.

[Anonymous No.12333344]

>>12333339
the Common Wealth Space Expanse

[Anonymous No.12333346]

>>12333314
Yes and it lands filled full of mostly lighter than air gas confined by a steel hull structure so it‘s a zeppelin.

[Anonymous No.12333347]

>>12333344
>CWSE
I don't get it
also Commonwealth is one word, which might let you spell CUNT
>>12333346
yeah sure

[Anonymous No.12333349]

>>12333249
Shit's cheap as fuck.

[Anonymous No.12333353]

>>12333308
Boeing snipers have switched to lasers?

[Anonymous No.12333355]

>>12333353
no it's a tracking telescope/camera for the HOP
we will be getting some SICK camera angles when that thing flies

[Anonymous No.12333365]

>>12333044
>70 degrees is nearly 90 degrees

[Anonymous No.12333370]

>>12333092
Shitloads of money is getting pumped into the Aus space industry, mostly in Adelaide, to deal with the humiliation of getting beaten to orbit by a race of flightless birds. Contact companies in SA.

There's also Gilmour in Brisbane if you want a small launch company.

[Anonymous No.12333383]

>>12333305
But its lifting area is not important. The flappy bits are used change the relative drag on the craft as it plummets, sideways, through the atmosphere. Can some sideways motion be derived from that? Sure. Does that make it a plane? No. At best, it is a smart bomb.

[Anonymous No.12333385]

>>12333370
noice. I will have to look at Adelaide.

[Anonymous No.12333386]

[Anonymous No.12333389]

>>12333107
Computer scientists can't do control engineering, you need to have a background in engineering, too much they don't know.

[Anonymous No.12333415]

>>12332912
kerolox
>useless for icbm's
>tends to freeze in space while the oxygen boils off instead
>unintended explosions may cause fireballs
>ugly dark fumes that smell like a nice car's engine exhaust - very unhealthy

hypergols
>excellent for icbms
>unless valves get stuck it can coast in space for years
>unintended explosions may cause ww1 gas attack tier death clouds
>pretty reddish/orange fumes whose smells sends you straight to heaven

[Anonymous No.12333417]

>>12333415
>unintended explosions may cause ww1 gas attack tier death clouds
Pushing 740 tons silo doors in the air like they're cardboard.

[Anonymous No.12333423]

Why is NASA letting ULA throw their heritage shuttle engines away on test flights when they were going to build more anyways?

They had to pull the engines out of the museum ships.

[Anonymous No.12333426]

>Primary Date
>November 12, 2020
>9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.
>Closure Scheduled

let's fucking go

[Anonymous No.12333446]

>>12332757
fuck the haters. love the thread. push higher and further. can't wait till we figure out a way to travel without expelling mass in the opposite direction

[Anonymous No.12333447]

This may be a dumb question, but how did SLS ever get human rated while using even bigger srb's than the shuttle?

[Anonymous No.12333455]

>>12333447
If SLS wasn't under NASA management there is 0% chance it would ever be considered for launching humans

[Anonymous No.12333458]

>>12333415
well that's 2 of the main 5, might as well do the others

solids
>excellent for ICBMs
>can't be throttled, stopped, or restarted (without a lot of messy engineering)
>multi-segment solids can leak fire trough failed O-rings
>I don't know what the fumes smell like, but they're made out of rubbery shit, so probably smell like a tire fire
>molded into a tube, has the "reusability" of a soda bottle

hydrolox
>useless for ICBMs
>best Isp of cryo fuels
>poor thrust, needs boosters
>requires extra tank mass
>can be throttled and restarted
>LH2 can be troublesome to keep cold
>leaks through tank walls
>embrittlement
>exhaust is pure H2O
>can be generated with ISRU from H2O

methalox
>useless for ICBMs
>second best Isp after hydrolox
>can be throttled and restarted
>shares a temperature range with LOX (no need for inter-tank insulation)
>exhaust is CO2 and H2O
>can be generated with ISRU from CO2 and H2O

[Anonymous No.12333473]

>>12333426
How many of these static fires are they doing?

[Anonymous No.12333483]

>>12333473
today is the expected hop day

[Anonymous No.12333490]

>>12333483
What, was the previous static fire for three engines or just the replaced one? And how do you know this?

[Anonymous No.12333496]

>>12333483
No NOTAMs yet so no way

[Anonymous No.12333498]

>>12333483
Inshallah

[Anonymous No.12333499]

I hope we get to Mars before America collapses

[Anonymous No.12333501]

>>12332841
one time i wrote some nice prose about how leaving earth is against god. got more (you)'s than i'd bargained for

[Anonymous No.12333503]

>>12333501
I think I might have responded to that one lmao

[Anonymous No.12333506]

>>12333490
>And how do you know this?
It's just what people have been guessing.

>>12333496
ikr. I fully expected to see one but the day is finally here and there isn't one.

[Anonymous No.12333514]

>>12333506
Guessing isn't good enough, we don't even know whether they tested one or 3 engines plus right now their full attention is on the crew 1 mission

[Anonymous No.12333517]

Oh the NOTAM was issued last month. It runs October 31 to December 31.
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_0205.html

[Anonymous No.12333519]

Should we do a /sfg/ meetup for Starship's first orbital flight?
>>12333314
Don't think those flaps will be used for orbital. Looks too scrappy.

[Anonymous No.12333521]

>>12333517
No that's just the standard rolling NOTAM which runs throughout the year.

[Anonymous No.12333524]

>>12333114
who will land an orbital booster next, Jeff or Chang?

[Anonymous No.12333530]

>>12333524
Definitely Chang. Jeff is too busy sniffing methane

[Anonymous No.12333545]

When will Tesla get a new spokesman who doesn't sound like a Introverted 10 year old dog?

The stock is currently down 615 dollars pre-split since the split, and musk keeps on bringing out bullshit like the tequila .

He's also a debbie downer by projecting stuff over a year out. If they had a different spokesman on battery day the stock would have mooned.

[Anonymous No.12333558]

>>12333524
They have a reusable orbital class rocket scheduled to launch on December 20.

[Anonymous No.12333566]

>>12333519
No, high concentration of autism never have a good outcome.

[Anonymous No.12333578]

>>12332757
>Kino photographs edition

[Anonymous No.12333580]

>>12333423
ULA is not building SLS. ULA did not build SSMEs.

[Anonymous No.12333594]

>>12333514
nsf seemed pretty confident it was a single engine static fire.

[Anonymous No.12333597]

>>12333594
So if they've never done a 3 engine test, why would they risk a hop, the timing just seems too off especially after how long we've waited for this.

[Anonymous No.12333605]

>>12332764

[Anonymous No.12333609]

>>12333597
The first static fire of SN8 was a 3 engine test

[Anonymous No.12333610]

>>12333597
>never done
There was a three engine test and then a single engine test that was specifically to test header tank feed.
>after how long we've waited for this
Nigger the only reason you even get the privilege of knowing what's going on is the fact that it's in a field, you aren't owed shit lmao

[Anonymous No.12333612]

>>12333605
wat he b doin out der

[Red Engineer No.12333623]

>>12333605
>*a quiet, distant radio signal can be heard echoing through the vastness of space*
>aeiou

[Anonymous No.12333629]

>>12333610
>you aren't owed shit
wrong. progress is owed to all. we need a reason to get out of bed every morning. a reason to be excited. we need a reason to not be empty husks waiting to die.

[Anonymous No.12333632]

>>12333609
>Excel spreadsheet with some red cells
Autism intensified

[Anonymous No.12333633]

>>12333629
Space belongs to everyone! I mean someone else is doing all the work and putting in all the funding but don't forget I have feelings and that's just as important. #teamhumanity

[Anonymous No.12333635]

>>12333610
I'm an interested party senpai, elon owes us news especially after how much he's hyped this project. Plus that first test didn't sound like a 3 engine test, the noise was too low compared to previous static fires, has elon even confirmed that it was a 3 engine test?

[Anonymous No.12333637]

argghh, I just wanna HOOOOP.

[Anonymous No.12333640]

>>12333635
>interested party
>can't even be assed to keep up with the project on his own with a constant deluge of third party updates

[Anonymous No.12333641]

>>12333633
>implying there are enough important jobs to go around
>implying paco and juan dont need someone to work the taco truck while they're on lunch break in boca

[Anonymous No.12333645]

>>12333632
red cells just mean burp/swap

[Anonymous No.12333646]

>>12333640
I watch updates from spacexentric and what about it every week, plus the nsf videos, I'm still not convinced it was 3 engines. All the other static fire tests I've watched were way louder than that supposed 3 engine test. Plus I've not seen anything tweet about it from whom musk, also these supposed sites that update the news keep confounding the preburner test with the actual static fire, so it's not wrong to be a little suspicious of their opinions.

[Anonymous No.12333648]

>>12333640
I watch updates from spacexentric and what about it every week, plus the nsf videos, I'm still not convinced it was 3 engines. All the other static fire tests I've watched were way louder than that supposed 3 engine test. Plus I've not seen anything tweet about it from elon musk, also these supposed sites that update the news keep confounding the preburner test with the actual static fire, so it's not wrong to be a little suspicious of their opinions.

[Anonymous No.12333653]

>>12333633
based

[Anonymous No.12333656]

>>12333648
What is anyone even supposed to say to you? You don't have anything to say but "I don't believe that", who cares. It's internal testing, you aren't going to be given every detail from the horse's mouth. If you want that, get an engineering job at SpaceX. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.12333664]

>>12333656
We all come here for information senpai, if you can't provide it no need to get worked up, I just need to see an elon musk tweet about that first 3 engine static fire, whether it happened or not.

[Anonymous No.12333668]

>>12333656
We all come here for information senpai, if you can't provide it no need to get worked up, I just need to see an elon musk tweet about that first 3 engine static fire, whether it was really 3 engines or not.

[Anonymous No.12333684]

>>12333668
>muh can't believe anything until I read it from Elon
Alright then faggot I'll spoonfeed you https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1318677645358518272
In the future though when you're literally the only person that has an opinion maybe do the most basic research instead of assuming you're right for no reason.

[Anonymous No.12333695]

>>12333684
>looks good
>silently replaces engine
elon is so fucked lmao

[Anonymous No.12333705]

lol

[Anonymous No.12333712]

>>12333684
Thanks senpai, and in the future don't be such a hard ass, life is good when we share that's what makes sfg such a lively discussion general.

[Anonymous No.12333737]

>>12333712
>such a hard ass
I did nothing but tell you the truth.

[Anonymous No.12333742]

Anyone know where you can watch the tiantong launch?

[Anonymous No.12333747]

>>12333737
next time dont spoonfeed him

[Anonymous No.12333765]

>>12333712
SFG is depressing and full of intense hatred and arguing

[Anonymous No.12333773]

>>12332757

[Anonymous No.12333775]

>>12333545
>/sfg/
>Sperging about Tesla because you bought the top and thought you would quickly become a millionaire from a tiny investment when it already has a 400 billion dollar market cap
Fuck off, retard.

[Anonymous No.12333778]

>>12333773
w-where is the propellant stored?

[Anonymous No.12333780]

[Anonymous No.12333783]

>>12333778
In

[Anonymous No.12333820]

>>12333783
The

[Anonymous No.12333825]

>>12333820
BALLS

[Anonymous No.12333834]

>Kino photographs

[Anonymous No.12333857]

>>12333780
faring reentries are kino

https://youtu.be/kfm_ytIcuPk

[Anonymous No.12333858]

What makes people into depressed, delusional, and obsessed doomsayers like the people who inhabit r/collapse?

[Anonymous No.12333861]

>>12333858
Reddit is for niggers. double digits iqs.

[Anonymous No.12333865]

>>12333858
being a teenager does that to some people

[Anonymous No.12333877]

[Anonymous No.12333878]

>>12333858
Being depressed feels a little better when you think you know why

[Anonymous No.12333880]

[Anonymous No.12333884]

>>12333519
I'm definitely intending to travel over from the UK for the first full stack flight. I'm not that autistic but I am probably older than most here.

[Anonymous No.12333885]

>>12333858
MSM, mostly. fear sells.

[Anonymous No.12333890]

>>12333825
>>12333820
>>12333783

[Anonymous No.12333905]

>>12333884
Chris B? Is that you?

[Anonymous No.12333911]

>>12333858
They see that a society accepting gays and other degenerates is bound to suck dick.

[Anonymous No.12333913]

[Anonymous No.12333924]

>>12333885
It’s very sad. I generally try to avoid experiencing empathy for random strangers, but I think it’s unfortunate that people really think the world is going to end.

[Anonymous No.12333930]

>>12333924
what happened to assassinations? People need to bring assassinations back and remind everyone that power ultimately lies in the people.

[Anonymous No.12333931]

Remember this? Just a reminder that, for a long time, we all just assumed it would be a stretched dragon or something taking SpaceX to Mars. If you would have tried to describe Starship to me back then I would have told you to fuck off and stop messing around

[Anonymous No.12333939]

>>12333931
Who left their viagra in the Dragon 2 again?

[Anonymous No.12333957]

>>12333931
A Long-Dragon is fine, too.

[Anonymous No.12333972]

Today is the day boys

[Anonymous No.12333975]

>>12333880
I thought we went over this yesterday, monkey man need his PPE. I'm going to have to write you up Elon

[Anonymous No.12333980]

>>12333975
Elon has halo energy shield.

[Anonymous No.12333983]

>>12333975
The halo counts as PPE, infidel

[Anonymous No.12333988]

>>12333858
lol I read that as collectspace

[Anonymous No.12333999]

>>12333858
They will never give their life for the Emperor

[Anonymous No.12334001]

>>12333880
>my ancestor

[N No.12334005]

>>12333931
I mean it has the soul of starship. It awoke something inside me when Elon first started toying with the idea of 100% reusability

[Anonymous No.12334008]

>>12333931
They should still make Long Dragon for Falcon Heavy so they can man-rate it, just take the existing dragon and fuse it with the currently hollow trunk section, make all of that internal space pressurized volume and include a beefier life support system to give it 30-day independent flight like Soyuz.
It could act as a good LEO bus for the small and anemic space projects that governments carry out while Starship does the heavy lifting beyond Earth's sphere of influence.
I also love how the sleek white Iphone look which used to be considered futuristic is now growing to characterize an outdated generation of space vehicles while while the next big heavy lifter will be a semi-retro steel Flash Gordon rocket.

[N No.12334011]

>>12334008
Gah I can't find it by googling but some anon posted a concept for a stretched FH stage with 12 dracos a few threads back. Fucking awesome. Anyone have the pic? I'll keep looking for it in the meantime

[Anonymous No.12334018]

>>12334008
>>12334011
Found it. Also sorry for the gay N in my name I typed that in accidentally a long time ago I think

[Anonymous No.12334020]

>>12334011
I think that was actually me posting the (unfortunately cancelled) Falcon reusable second stage.

[Anonymous No.12334022]

>>12334020
Oh nice I haven't seen that pic before. They definitely would have gone with this assuming starship was never on the table

[Anonymous No.12334026]

>>12334018
>>12334020
Are those renders official?

[Anonymous No.12334042]

[Anonymous No.12334043]

>>12333972
>>12333483
Is it time, brothers?

[Anonymous No.12334044]

>>12334026
I don't think so, considering it's attached to a Falcon Heavy with four boosters, but it does fit the Falcon aesthetic style pretty well. I had said in the previous thread that it would be cool if you just merged a Dragon capsule with the reusable 2S to create a Long Dragon. You could use the same enlarged 2S propulsion unit for payload like it's displayed in the renders as well.
Imagine the Gs you'd be pulling on Falcon Superheavy. 128 tons of payload to orbit at a gentle 20 fucking gees.

[Anonymous No.12334045]

>>12333858
To be honest my enthusiasm is slowing down.

We are following Starship development for so long and so far basically nothing happened. No, tank barely taking off is not development.

Nothing so far suggests that they can achieve what Elon hopes. Yes SpaceX already did great things and lowered space launch costs a lot but Starship is so much of a jump forward and so far nothing suggests they can pull it off.

[Anonymous No.12334058]

If the honk actually meant an engine is fucked, why is the road closed again today? Wouldn't they cancel the closure?

[Anonymous No.12334060]

>>12334045
>No, tank barely taking off is not development.

[Anonymous No.12334063]

>>12334044
Yeah hahah this configuration could probably carry anything to GEO as long as it fits in the payload bay. Pure gold, yeah. Osmium? Yeah. Neutron star degenerate matter? Yes. Only problem is you’d be shaking more than an Ares I-X

[Anonymous No.12334065]

>>12334058
if they do testing again today without swapping an engine it more or less confirms that the honking is nothing bad

[Anonymous No.12334069]

>>12334045
Now imagine being a fan of shuttle and SLS. Want a tank bro? Give it a decade. Anon I just want to remind you that Starhopper was literally just one short year ago

[Anonymous No.12334071]

>>12334045
This same stupid shit is exactly what was said about Falcon 9 though.
>Hurr durr landing rockets will never be practical.
>Hurr durr so what they landed the rocket but look at all the accidents it will never save enough to be worth the effort.
>Hurr durr so what if it's got a 90+% success rate like all of the competitor rockets now, SLS and Vulcan will be able to carry more.
>Hurr durr you can't just slap three booster cores together to create the world's current most powerful heavy lift rocket.
>Hurr durr so what if they slapped three booster cores together to create the worlds current most powerful heavy lift rocket it's not got any contracts because nobody builds payloads for it.
>Hurr durr they can't just build a new superheavy lifter, that isn't even a rocket it's just the water tank.
>Hurr durr so what if it flew once?
>Hurr durr so what if it flew twice?
>Hurr durr so what if it flew three times?
>Hurr durr so what if it flew four times?
YOU ARE HERE
The reason you are here and still looking like a retard is because you fundamentally don't understand how iterative design operates, or why it works.

[Anonymous No.12334075]

>>12333545
Patience, it's only down 15% from ATH, not that bad.

[Anonymous No.12334077]

>>12334045
>We are following Starship development for so long and so far basically nothing happened.
You are witnessing the most ambitious rocket ever designed be put together and tested in a field in bum-fuck nowhere Texas. And they are doing it faster and cheaper than the "safe" option SLS.
Please apologize to every plant, algae, and tree for wasting the oxygen they worked so hard to create.

[Anonymous No.12334079]

>>12334058
>>12334065
The honk is not absolutely an indication of something having gone wrong, but it's not a good noise to hear from a rocket engine, it means there's a slight level of combustion instability inside the lip of the expander bell which is causing the bell itself to vibrate.
This is not a healthy thing for a rocket engine and it can damage the engine post-shutdown or cause it to explode post-startup as was the case with the early F-1's.
There are a couple ways it can be addressed though, you can slightly reduce the length of the bell to reduce flow separation, include baffles on the powerhead, or create a slight inward turning lip at the edge of the expansion bell to keep the exhaust flush with the wall.
If Raptors are having combustion instability issues, it's not even remotely an insurmountable or dealbreaking problem, worst case scenario they'd have to sacrifice 1-2% maximum efficiency in exchange for 100% reliability, not a bad trade.

[Anonymous No.12334103]

>another static fire today
>no hop
You've done enough static fires Elon. Move the fuck on.

[Anonymous No.12334106]

>>12334071
>>12334077
You don't get it.

Yes they will finish it. Yes it will fly. Yes it will probably be significantly cheaper than Falcon 9.

But the goal of being 10x cheaper and having a fleet going to the Mars sounds like bullshit.

There are so many problems still left. Heat tiles. Raptor re-usability. Radiation and loss of muscles during months in space. None of that is even addressed they have problems with way more basic stuff.

[Anonymous No.12334109]

Was there ever any word on what exactly got pulverized during the last static fire? Talking about the sparks, for clarification.

[Anonymous No.12334114]

>>12334106
I don't know how else to explain it to you man, you'll still be fucking dooming and looking retarded 30 years from now when they decide to retire Starship for an even bigger, even better rocket.

[Anonymous No.12334121]

>>12334106
>But the goal of being 10x cheaper and having a fleet going to the Mars sounds like bullshit.
What about it is bullshit?
>Heat tiles
>Raptor re-usability
They're working on it now
>Radiation
They believe that it isn't as bad as some make it out to be, and if they're wrong then they're willing to fix it
>loss of muscles during months in space.
NASA just solved that two years ago. Less reps, more weight

[Anonymous No.12334123]

>>12334109
Some proof pass stuff. Unrelated to Raptor

[Anonymous No.12334126]

>>12334106
I choose to believe.
I choose Mars.

[Anonymous No.12334128]

>>12334109
The ULA sniper who was captured by Zeus last month

[Anonymous No.12334131]

>>12334106
You don't get it.

Yes they will finish it. Yes it will fly. Yes it will probably be significantly as expensive as the Space Shuttle.

But the goal of being 10x cheaper and having a fleet going to the Moon sounds like bullshit.

There are so many problems still left. Tank stability. RS-25 cost. Safety of using two extended SRB's when one already exploded recently during an OmegA test. None of that is even addressed they have problems with way more basic stuff.

[Anonymous No.12334149]

>>12334106
>says nothing's happening
>anons rightly call this statement out
>changes the topic completely
Cool concession anon.
>But the goal of being 10x cheaper and having a fleet going to the Mars sounds like bullshit.
Non-specific complaints based on subjective impressions are for women.
>Heat tiles. Raptor re-usability.
Been undergoing parallel development with the prototypes this entire time.
>Radiation and loss of muscles during months in space
Made up problems by someone who doesn't follow spaceflight in general

[Anonymous No.12334155]

>>12333931
The 40s-50s scifi authors turned out to be the brightest of the bunch.

[Anonymous No.12334158]

>>12334106
This line of thinking is why people believed the moon landings were impossible and thus fake.
Just because a problem has not been solved yet does not mean it's impossible to solve.

[Anonymous No.12334159]

>>12334106
This is the kind of thinking that leads to stagnation and death
We pursue perfection so that we can achieve excellence

[Anonymous No.12334161]

Could Flex Seal be used to paint Starship and protect its steel from corrosion?

[Anonymous No.12334170]

>>12334155
The future was foretold in the old texts.

[Anonymous No.12334171]

Anyone got a SpaceX hop stream link?

[Anonymous No.12334177]

>>12334161
Not having to paint it is one of the advantages of stainless steel (lunar variant notwithstanding but that's for thermal properties)

[Anonymous No.12334180]

>>12334171
Wait are they hopping today?

[Anonymous No.12334185]

Okay, so we've mostly solved bone and muscle loss in 0G, now the only issue is the body ballooning up with blood because of no gravity. How would we solve that issue?

[Anonymous No.12334186]

>>12334180
Not unless something changed. The plan since at least the first has been 1 engine static fire, then 2 engine, then 3 again, from the headers this time.

[Anonymous No.12334188]

What would be the re-entry performance of a Spaceplane orbiter with variable-sweep wings like an F-14? Assuming the undersides of the wings and horizontal tail surface are adequately protected by thermal insulation, would high-speed high-altitude gliding performance be similar to an ogival delta like the Shuttle? Low speed performance wouldn't matter because when the orbiter drops below mach .5 on its glide slope it would unsweep its wings forward for extremely nimble performance.

God-mode engineering would have the wings fitted with single-slotted fowler flaps and leading edge krueger flaps that would allow for cessna-like landing ease. This would allow it to land at absolutely any airport or airstrip in the world, and even potentially on public highways in an emergency.

[Anonymous No.12334189]

>>12334185
Do we really need blood?

[Anonymous No.12334193]

>>12334189
Do we really need that much flesh?

[Anonymous No.12334195]

>>12334180

looks like it.

https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/j545qo/starship_development_thread_15/

[Anonymous No.12334197]

>>12334185
Bloodletting to restore the balance of the fluids in the body.

[Anonymous No.12334198]

>>12334106
"You should always aim higher than you intend to go because the arrow drops in flight."

~my mom

[Anonymous No.12334199]

>>12334189
We don't need all of our blood, just some

[Anonymous No.12334202]

>>12334188
Anon at that point you're assuming so much magic engineering you might as well make it a VF-1 that SSTOs and turns into a mecha.

[Anonymous No.12334203]

>>12334185
In the long run, cyclers with spin gravity. In the short term, limiting individual stints in freefall to less than a year.

[Anonymous No.12334208]

What are you bringing to Mars?

[Anonymous No.12334211]

>>12334121
>NASA just solved that two years ago. Less reps, more weight
/fit/ figured that out ages ago

[Anonymous No.12334212]

>>12334188
>Spaceplane orbiter with variable-sweep wings like an F-14
The wasteful use of dry mass in such a system would make NASA hydrolox engineers coom

[Anonymous No.12334213]

>>12334202
Kek that made me laugh out loud

[Anonymous No.12334218]

>>12334211
You have to consider that NASA is run by women

[Anonymous No.12334219]

>>12334208
A shovel and a gun.

[Anonymous No.12334221]

>>12334170
>one even has the forward drag flaps or whatever they're called
wild

[Anonymous No.12334225]

>>12334170

[Anonymous No.12334227]

>>12334170
>Anon cowers on URF doomerposting and illiterate in space technology while the ghost of von Braun torments him.

[Anonymous No.12334234]

>>12334170

[Anonymous No.12334236]

>>12334234
It's like poetry

[Anonymous No.12334237]

>>12334185
SPINNY HABS

[Anonymous No.12334243]

>>12334234
I think we need a new version of this image with SN8

[Anonymous No.12334244]

>>12334234
I've seen both of these images so many times but the fact that this one is actually a reference only dawns on me now. I am retarded.

[Anonymous No.12334246]

>>12334237
Skin-tight flight suits is more sexy.

[Anonymous No.12334247]

>>12333498
holy fucking keke

[Anonymous No.12334248]

Trump is sperging out on twitter again about election fraud. Good news is if he's right and can prove it Jim probably stays.

[Anonymous No.12334249]

>>12334234
>>12334244
Same.

[Anonymous No.12334250]

>>12334208
Islam

[Anonymous No.12334253]

>>12334244
Same

[Anonymous No.12334254]

>>12334198
that's actually not a bad quote, trying to spoiler on this board aside

[Anonymous No.12334258]

>>12333780
holy fuck, which flight was this

that was pure fucking kino

[Anonymous No.12334259]

>>12334250

[Anonymous No.12334260]

>>12334202
sick

[Anonymous No.12334263]

>>12334043
probably not, isnt elon at kennedy for crew 1?

[Anonymous No.12334266]

>>12334248
The election has been over for a week anon....

[Anonymous No.12334267]

>>12334185
>wideship
is that general shape viable at all? Or are modified cylinders going to be all that's seen during our lifetimes?

[Anonymous No.12334269]

>>12334248
There's some pretty compelling evidence, but it's not /pol/ so I won't go into detail. Future looks bright, boys.

[Anonymous No.12334271]

>>12334258
Every rocket that flies without a camera on board is a waste.

[Anonymous No.12334273]

>>12334195
Stop spreading bs, nigger. No NOTAMs = no hop.

[Anonymous No.12334274]

>>12334258
the payload that looks like a big CPU heatsink is a Starlink stack

[Anonymous No.12334275]

>>12334170
>>12334155

[Anonymous No.12334276]

>>12334243
Anyone got a good pic of SN8 with its wings folded out?

[Anonymous No.12334277]

>>12334258
Not sure what mission, they just have the video on their youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWio4zHShM

[Anonymous No.12334279]

>>12334267
It gets asked a lot. From what I understand it would be possible but a) you would need a heat shield on the bottom (obviously), b) those three heavy's would need to basically be fused when made because they would shake a fuck ton

[Anonymous No.12334280]

>>12334185
Smart and easy solution: spinhabs, they even work on planet surfaces.

Hard brute force solution: ultra precise genetical engineering to just make sure the body doesn't react like this to 0g

[Anonymous No.12334283]

>>12334271
You can thank NOAA and their salty ass rules for that

[Anonymous No.12334284]

>>12334275

[Anonymous No.12334286]

>>12334065
We already know honks arent a showstopper, it depends on how violent the honk it. there is a honk gradient

[Anonymous No.12334287]

>>12334280
>ultra precise genetical engineering to just make sure the body doesn't react like this to 0g
What would such a person even look like?

pic semi-related

[Anonymous No.12334289]

>>12333780
>>12334258
>keralox 2nd stage exhaust is super pretty
bros just imagine the methalox wake.

[Anonymous No.12334291]

>>12334271
Watching Antares switch from ground cameras to 1999 era computer simulations is painful.

[Anonymous No.12334292]

>>12334267
You could probably make the basic shape functional (much is wrong with the actual depiction besides that) but from a rocketry standpoint it doesn't make any sense to do it that way anyway.

[Anonymous No.12334294]

>>12333780
I love how the fairings are rotating one way but then the force from the merlin vac reverses it

[Anonymous No.12334298]

>>12333423
I sometimes think of how blacks stayed behind in africa and proto euros and asians left for new frontiers. Makes me wonder if there is an evolutionary component to exploration and discovery. Like blacks lack the drive to seek out new things and would rather remain the same holding themselves back subconsciously. Probably BS but an interesting thought experiment nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.12334299]

>>12334103
The static fires will continue until Raptor improves

[Anonymous No.12334300]

>>12334277
beautiful exhaust plume

[Anonymous No.12334302]

>>12334283

what did they do?

[Anonymous No.12334303]

>>12334289
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Starship 18 meter's on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched methalox wakes glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

[Anonymous No.12334307]

>>12334291
Also switching from liquids to solids.
>whyyyyyyy

>>12334298
A race that lacks any real awareness of time or mathematics is not going to wonder what's over the horizon.

[Anonymous No.12334308]

>>12334298
They'll call you racist for this, but all evidence points to you probably being correct.

[Anonymous No.12334309]

>>12334248
he has a bunch of lawsuits out already, but none of them materially change the election result so it's over. It's just theater so that he can run in 4 years on a comeback platform after having been wronged by the system.

[Anonymous No.12334310]

>>12334302
From what I learned in the last thread, Elon didn't "register his cameras and fill out proper paperwork" for that first FH launch where he put his tesla in orbit so NOAA banned him from using cameras on the next flight or two. Fucking assholes like why the fuck do I need to get permission to strap a gopro on a rocket.

[Anonymous No.12334312]

>>12334287
how does adding 10 nipples make him more apt at surviving car crashes?

[Anonymous No.12334314]

>>12334302
Decided that they own all sensing equipment in space which somehow flies despite the fact it sounds like something out of a communist dystopia

[Anonymous No.12334316]

>>12334298
Based and mountainclimbingpilled

[Anonymous No.12334318]

>>12334277
would there still be sound at this point?

[Anonymous No.12334320]

>>12334310
>>12334314
How do we dismantle the NOAA? Or at least strip them of this unearned authority over filming shit in space?

[Anonymous No.12334323]

>>12334320
Land on Mars and break every rover and tell Earth they can’t take photos of our planet unless they file the paperwork first

[Anonymous No.12334327]

>>12334292
>>12334279
sounds about right. I imagine vehicles that have to deal with earth's gravity/atmosphere are all going to be pretty samey. But once we start building ships in orbit - ships that will never touch down on earth - things will get more interesting

[Anonymous No.12334338]

>>12334327
Orbital shipyards fucking WHEN

[Anonymous No.12334342]

>>12334248

[Anonymous No.12334351]

>>12334342

[Anonymous No.12334352]

>>12334269
>There's some pretty compelling evidence
Then why was the only thing that clown Giuliani could conjure up in PA was a washed up candidate from NJ who's a literal pedo?

[Anonymous No.12334355]

>>12334248
The dems are shooting down all his appeals for recounts or lawsuits.
The MSM is already backing up Biden.
It wont happen anon, just accept kamala harris as your new president after joe's dementia finally gets revealed to the public.
Repubicans will never win the election again, NASA will never be great again.

[Anonymous No.12334359]

>>12334351

[Anonymous No.12334361]

>>12333905
No

[Anonymous No.12334363]

>>12334338
After moon mines. Orbital shipyards from Earth based materials is silly.

[Anonymous No.12334364]

>>12334355
>Repubicans will never win the election again, NASA will never be great again.
Trump is in his element heckling from the sidelines. All he has to do is yell about everything Biden does and he's got a clean runway for 2024.

[Anonymous No.12334365]

>>12334359
Imagine the shitstorm if musk pulls that off in the third year of bidens presidency and posts that.

[Anonymous No.12334366]

>>12334338
Lifting the fuel and rv the tanker with the ship is more expensive than just launching the fully-fueled ship.

[Anonymous No.12334367]

>>12334359

[Anonymous No.12334371]

>>12334355
What happens in NASA has little to do with Dem-Rep politics

[Anonymous No.12334383]

>>12334371
Yeah, that massive change in policy every 4 or 8 years has nothing to do with it.
Politicians are honest people, they are not vindictive at all.

[Anonymous No.12334384]

>>12334359
>thanking trump and the artemis accords for a privately funded endeavor which has no reliance on and was in fact drawn up before the artemis accords

[Anonymous No.12334392]

>>12334383
Was the Constellation SLS debacle due to partisan politics or congress keeping contractors in their districts open? Even when Bolden was the NASA admin and he pushed for more funding for the development of depots and more money for SpaceX who stopped it and why?

[Anonymous No.12334406]

>>12334371
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.12334408]

>>12334392
So you do admit that politicians on both side are vindictive little bitches?
And sure, the reps are corrupt fuckers, but so are the dems, but with a "diversity" cherry on top, and that spells disaster for a space agency.

[Anonymous No.12334409]

>>12334392
You just disproved your own point, are you seriously this daft anon?

[Anonymous No.12334414]

>>12334408
>>12334409
As I said, there are politics, but they have very little to do with liberal vs conservative and more to do with jobs and keeping their districts happy. Shelby didn't block the depots because he was a Republican he did it because he wanted to keep money pouring into his district.

[Anonymous No.12334419]

>>12334406
Constellation happened under a Rep admin, SLS under Dem admin, notice that that had nothing to do with partisan politics and everything to do with where the money was allocated to. Also contractor lobbying.

[Anonymous No.12334428]

I've heard a hypothesis that once spaceflight becomes widespread, then any splinter belief can go out to make their own home in space, and there will be an explosion of culture diversity due to this. How valid is this?

[Anonymous No.12334429]

>>12334359
SS is privately funded. No governments involved they are too busy tackling - not solving - global issues and funding boing. The butthurt will be immense.

[Anonymous No.12334430]

>>12334408
>and that spells disaster for a space agency
Or maybe the fat that there is simply no political or public will to fund a large scale space exploration project. Even Apollo was cut short because people stopped giving a fuck.

[Anonymous No.12334432]

how does spacex start their raptor engines if they aren't using helium?

[Anonymous No.12334435]

>>12334430
>Even Apollo was cut short because people stopped giving a fuck.
to be fair public engagement was the one thing that NASA really sucked at. Should have made a huge deal of the whole thing with a fuckton of high-quality cameras. Even take a celebrity to the moon or some shit to keep the gravy train going.

[Anonymous No.12334444]

>>12334248
funnily enough even non-republicans were raising a stink about these voting systems for a while now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQmfLDeghpI

but of course no one listened.

[Anonymous No.12334446]

>>12334435
>Should have made a huge deal of the whole thing with a fuckton of high-quality cameras. Even take a celebrity to the moon or some shit to keep the gravy train going.
Would that even work if the population is already apathetic to spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.12334447]

>>12334435
That just wasn't possible in the 60's all three astronauts had to be highly trained test pilots, save for Jack Schmitt who was a geologist but helped design the LM (to an extent) and proved himself to be a quick learner when it came to flying a rocket. The apollo landings were kino as fuck and NASA did everything they could to keep the hype up after Apollo 11. Unfortunately the average person is pretty retarded and didn't care lmao

[Anonymous No.12334450]

>>12334435
>Should have made a huge deal of the whole thing with a fuckton of high-quality cameras.
That and allow their history making lunar astronauts to speak freely rather than make it mandatory that all conversation be kept as mundane as possible

[Anonymous No.12334452]

>>12334298
If you look at the skull of a black person they literally lack the part of the brain that makes us human.

[Anonymous No.12334453]

>>12334428
Extremely.

[Anonymous No.12334457]

>>12334452
Jesus calm down Josef Mengele

[Anonymous No.12334458]

>>12334428
>separated by large distance/time
>tight knit communities shaped by experienced and troubles

It makes the most sense. Hence earth governments will do their best to prevent it early on.

[Anonymous No.12334468]

>>12334371
Which NASA?

[Anonymous No.12334469]

>>12334432
They are using helium on SN8 the helium tanks or on the inside unlike on the outside of the previous versions

[Anonymous No.12334472]

Why hasn't China announced its launch date for Chang'e 5 yet? Are they keeping it a secret, or are they aiming for a window and really haven't found a date yet?

[Anonymous No.12334478]

>>12334312
He can breastfeed himself while waiting for paramedics to cut him out of the car

[Anonymous No.12334482]

>>12334450
>"Houston, the engine's over the red degrees and my heart beats as much as I can't breathe. But I don't wanna claim any stop. They want to say I'm quitting. Speedy speed boy, gasoline is burning."
>Eugene Andrew Cernan, Apollo 17

[Anonymous No.12334484]

>>12334452
/pol/ has been leaking here too much lately. this is one of the last boards that hasn't been colonized.

[Anonymous No.12334487]

>>12334446
The first moon landings were all the rage, dude. But all the public had to go off of were blurry videos and dull monologues. Humans are massive suckers for novelty. When there's nothing new in x area they go for the new thing in y area. Gotta keep things exciting. It's just part of the job;

If you want to look at how to do this right: look at the Falcon Heavy. Its importance was, in retrospect, very overstated but that didn't stop everyone from wetting their pants over it. "Launching Elon's personal car to Mars" was a brilliant hook, and they did an amazing job of turning the event into a genuine EVENT. I mean, synching fairing release to music? Holy shit! And the synched landings as a crescendo solidified the entire thing in people's minds forever. Even though the FH hasn't seen much action people still remember and talk about it because the communication surrounding it was ace.

[Anonymous No.12334492]

>>12334359
Trump would make electric cars illigal if Musk said anything bad about him. Before he was elected, Musk constantly said he wasn't fit to be president. Musk was backing Yang for 2020 when he was running.

[Anonymous No.12334495]

>>12334469
Those are for the nitrogen rcs. Raptor with helium purge is a meme from a fan diagram.

[Anonymous No.12334497]

>>12334185
Knee high socks that suck on your legs and feet to pull blood away from your head

[Anonymous No.12334499]

>>12334472
they're having a fierce debate on which village to destroy with the 1st stage. So many options but only 1 rocket.

[Anonymous No.12334507]

>>12334499
So what's the reason behind not launching off Hainan? Why use the launch spots during the Soviet era?

[Anonymous No.12334515]

>>12334469
RCS tanks?

[Anonymous No.12334516]

>>12334487
>syncing fairing release to music
>synced landings
It was like a movie, awesome in every sense of the word.

[Anonymous No.12334519]

>>12334432
Compressed oxygen gas and compressed methane gas

[Anonymous No.12334524]

>>12334487
yeah good point. They hype and marketing around it was brilliant.

[Anonymous No.12334530]

>>12334524

You can watch the progress of the starship almost daily.

BO and SLS needs to do this.

[Anonymous No.12334541]

>>12334492
>Musk constantly said he wasn't fit to be president. Musk was backing Yang for 2020 when he was running
And yet, even with all that was said and done, Trump has publicly stated he still likes Elon.

[Anonymous No.12334543]

>>12334530
>Alabama tank watchers
>"OMFG they installed a bolt today!!!"

[Anonymous No.12334544]

>>12334487
>tfw you realize why oldspace is so bad at PR is because then people would start expecting them to get stuff done rather than siphon taxes

[Anonymous No.12334549]

>>12334499
>working in the rice patties 12h a day to feed the cities
>hypergolic surprise falls out of the sky and kills entire family
>poisons 20 other people and contaminates the water
>rice production plummets.
>As punishment CCP moves everyone else to the local "reeducation" camp
>now dying surrounded by screaming muslims
thank you glorious leader

[Anonymous No.12334554]

>>12334543
come to think of it this is probably why they've never done this: they can't.

[Anonymous No.12334558]

>>12333093
Nickname given to underfunded national agency who have to do "space stuff" without actually costing money, asking for change, or doing anything the congress/current president didn't approve.

Opposite to newspace were unqualified millionaires brute force their ways with money, take credit for others' works and market themselves as visionary on social network.

[Anonymous No.12334564]

>>12334558
>second line
How is this even legal? How is this tolerated!? Nationalize, I say!

[Anonymous No.12334572]

>>12334558
based retard.
Tweet this to celebrities and see how many retweets you get.

[Anonymous No.12334574]

>>12334558
Riding on that $1 stock increase high, Boing?

[Anonymous No.12334575]

>12334558

>Nickname given to underfunded national agency who have to do "space stuff" without actually costing money, asking for change, or doing anything the congress/current president didn't approve.

>Opposite to newspace were unqualified millionaires brute force their ways with money, take credit for others' works and market themselves as visionary on social network.

Why are you so salty?

[Anonymous No.12334605]

>In a conversation that von Braun captured with a secret recording system he had installed in his office, he told NASA Administrator James Webb that they needed to make it clear who was opposing Wallace...
>Webb and von Braun met Wallace with a full-on NASA extravaganza. Von Braun corralled the governor, the legislators and the press into a holding area and treated them to a rare and explosive show—a static firing of the Saturn V rocket’s first stage.
>Von Braun and Webb walked out and lectured their captive audience about race. “The era belongs to those who can shed the shackles of the past,” he said
I cannot figure this man out. Seriously a strange and fascinating life. Went from using jewish slave labor to attending ceremonies at historically black colleges and lecturing southern politicians

[Anonymous No.12334615]

>>12334605
Ah fuck left out one more thing
>Wallace never came back to Huntsville for the remainder of NASA’s mission to the Moon.

[Anonymous No.12334621]

>>12334605
Jesus christ, using a saturn v static fire as an intimidation method. Willy Wonka energy

[Anonymous No.12334623]

>>12334554
Just look at how they hype up every minor event that happens with SLS

[Anonymous No.12334654]

>>12334484
Outside of this general, which is almost entirely comprised of crossboarders and has been since before it was even a general, /sci/ is an absolute festering garbage heap.

>white people proud of their races achievements and with hope for escaping this hell planet like this general

Shocking

[Anonymous No.12334662]

https://vimeo.com/355337477
>10:25
The fucking balls on that lad.

[Anonymous No.12334664]

>>12334623
>"We are so excited to do a gimbal test of the mighty SLS!"
>what about the green run?
>"Umm... look! We can assemble an RS-25 in just two minutes!"
>what about the green run?
>"...first woman on the moon soon..."
>green run?
>"aren't you excited that we made the first bolt for the Artemis program?"
>green. run.
>"Turns out there is a serious issue with the core stage, no green run this year...or next. Now stop asking!"

[Anonymous No.12334665]

>>12334219
Plan on shooting some aliens while up there?

[Anonymous No.12334673]

>>12334662
Some countries can’t even get to space: Meanwhile the USA has already docked humans directly to satellites and is preparing to visit mars with scrap metal rockets just because we can

[Anonymous No.12334675]

>>12334665
No, just anyone who gets too lippy.

[Anonymous No.12334699]

>>12333248
Stop avatarfagging this is a place of learning damnit

[Anonymous No.12334704]

[Anonymous No.12334707]

>>12334699
>this is a place of shitposting damnit
ftfy

[Anonymous No.12334708]

We need to cancel spaceflight right now, it's too dangerous to the climate and the climate comes first!
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/an-underappreciated-danger-of-the-new-space-age-global-air-pollution/

[Anonymous No.12334709]

[Anonymous No.12334713]

>>12334704
What's with the red helmet, I've never seen anyone explain it before and I have seen this photo all my life

[Anonymous No.12334715]

[Anonymous No.12334716]

>>12334699
Peko posting is the new pepe anon, he's not avatarfagging.

[Anonymous No.12334718]

>>12334716
Eugh no

[Anonymous No.12334723]

>>12334708

If the space industry manage to make it near economical for the average man to go to space the libs will jack the price up with carbon taxes.

[Anonymous No.12334726]

>>12334713
>http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000900.html
>http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000596.html
Seems like Apollo 9 didn't pack the white thermal covers for their helmets which exposed the red helmet. As to why they're red, no idea

[Anonymous No.12334727]

>>12332841
It’s not funny and they do it to create their own boogey man to snigger at.

[Anonymous No.12334728]

>>12334708
Didn't SpaceX show that methalox isn't very polluting?

[Anonymous No.12334730]

>>12334726
Oh hmm interesting. It's probably just a thermal paint or something

[Anonymous No.12334734]

>>12334482
he was brave to say this

[Anonymous No.12334756]

>>12334203
Why can’t you people read before spouting shit like this.

[Anonymous No.12334759]

>>12334708
>opinion piece
into the trash

[Anonymous No.12334768]

>>12334298
I would say go back to pol, but it sounds like you haven’t even been groomed by them yet. Only a matter of time though.

By the way, the Polynesians were black and did plenty of exploring.

[Anonymous No.12334778]

>>12334768
They were and are austronesian you retard

[Anonymous No.12334785]

>>12334768
we wuz explorers and sheeit

[Anonymous No.12334786]

>>12334716
His pic had a caption that had no thing to do with his post content. Avatar fagging

[Anonymous No.12334789]

>>12334768
Imagine thinking pacific islanders compete with white people at any level lmao. Navigating between islands on barely seaworthy rafts is their only achievement of note, and that as a result of population pressure and generations of aquired weather and sea lore. This general is /pol/ by the way, offworld colonisation is the last stand of implicit white identity and manifest destiny. If you don't like it then fuck off back to r*ddit where you came from.

[Anonymous No.12334793]

>>12334786
Report it then if it bothers you, faggot.
Pictured: my avatar Elon Musk

[Anonymous No.12334796]

>>12334789
Last I heard, a bunch of native hawaiians are trying to block the largest telescope from being built on a mountain there. A bunch of scientists want to build it and feel like it would be an apt monument to polynesians (because they used the stars to navigate), but the hawaiians are claiming its a burial ground or something.

[Anonymous No.12334800]

Static fire yet?

[Anonymous No.12334801]

>>12334615
>>12334605
was Wallace some politician down South opposing Apollo, racebaiting?

I never heard of this

[Anonymous No.12334805]

>>12334796
Reminder that you are free to bring your spirituality to Mars, but if you try to block important science projects becuase "muh religion" or something you will be ground to a pulp and fed to the /sfg/ biosphere farm

[Anonymous No.12334806]

>>12334796
but placing telescopes in space is unacceptable because it allows the capitalists to win somehow

[Anonymous No.12334811]

>>12334708
That's fucking retarded considering the launch cadence of rockets now and even in the future

[Anonymous No.12334812]

>>12334572
Why would I want to be retweeted by idiotic fanboys? If I tweeted that in Muskland they would blow a casket or Elon will call me pedophile.

[Anonymous No.12334816]

>>12334801
Wallace was a segregationist who hated blacks and von braun thought the engineers and physicists from the local black colleges brought new ideas and hard work to NASA

[Anonymous No.12334818]

>>12334789
Right Polynesians aren’t black. I’m sure you’d have the balls to say that to a Polynesians face Pepe poster

[Anonymous No.12334819]

>>12334541
If you suck Trumps dick he likes you. It is too much the rich kid to know a yes man when he sees it.

[Anonymous No.12334821]

>>12334818
What are they going to do, eat a can of spam with pineapple pizza in front of me?

[Anonymous No.12334823]

>>12334821
Lol. Probably so.

[Anonymous No.12334831]

>>12334708
#fuckspace
#savethehumanrace

[Anonymous No.12334836]

>>12334723
Not just carbon taxes but high altitude water vapor as well.
There were also talks about falcon rockets punching holes through the earth's protective blanket that would take ages to close...

[Anonymous No.12334860]

>>12334818
Ok bro

[Anonymous No.12334864]

>>12334836
If that were true wouldn't that be the case for any rocket ever?

[Anonymous No.12334866]

>>12334864
Yes which is why we have to keep launch cadence as low as possible to protect minorities from climate change.

[Anonymous No.12334874]

>>12334864
Some rockets for vital earth observation satellites and SCIENCE is okay but colonizing and enslaving other worlds like straight out of the darkest parts of our history books...? Yikes!

[Anonymous No.12334886]

Would someone post the contractor list webm please, I need to show it to someone

[Anonymous No.12334889]

>>12334886
Are you preparing to drop the SLS redpill on someone? Make sure to tell them it took 11 years to design the tank when it was supposed to literally just be the shuttle's external tank

[Anonymous No.12334892]

>>12334886
Don't have the webm but I have the website
https://www.nasa.gov/specials/ESDSuppliersMap/

[Anonymous No.12334906]

>>12334889
It goes back to the politics. They should have been forced to do shuttle-c.

[Anonymous No.12334907]

>>12334889
Yes. He knows that, but he still doesn't really know how bad things really are
>>12334892
Good enough, thanks

[Anonymous No.12334918]

>>12334892

[Anonymous No.12334919]

I watched Gravity
I know realism is not the goal yadda yadda, but this scene annoyed me as fuck.
The movie showed people bouncing left and right when their tether were tense, but then suddenly Clooney is pulled by magic and we get 1 min of retarded dialogue before he sacrifice himself heroically...

>>12334248
He will leave anyway anon
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/11/jim-bridenstine-is-leaving-nasa-how-should-we-assess-his-30-month-tenure/
also, Biden was elected

[Anonymous No.12334920]

>>12334907
My favorites include: Walmart, Cable Ties & More, O'Reilly Automotive, and Hotel Supply Inc.

[Anonymous No.12334932]

you guys think ULA will actually launch tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.12334938]

>>12334920
You see showmecables.com and Home Depot, inc. I see AMERICAN CONTRACTS for AMERICAN JOBS

[Anonymous No.12334940]

>>12334918
had to get wyoming involved somehow

[Anonymous No.12334943]

>>12334932
>United Launch Alliance
>can't launch

[Anonymous No.12334947]

>>12334943
United Scrub Alliance

[Anonymous No.12334959]

>>12334886
I gotchu anon

[Anonymous No.12334961]

>>12334708
oh fuck off. Rocket launches have a minuscule impact on carbon emissions.

These people are absolutely not serious about bettering the climate. They always raise hell over insignificant contributors and NEVER touch on the true problems.

https://everydayastronaut.com/rocket-pollution/

[Anonymous No.12334966]

>>12334932
I WISH THAT I COULD TURN BACK TIME
CAUSE NOW THE GUILT IS ALL MINE

[Anonymous No.12334968]

>>12334961

[Anonymous No.12334988]

>>12334968
>Starship production takes off
>agent provocateurs start crying that rocket emissions have gone up 10,000 times
>.059%

[Anonymous No.12334989]

>>12334234
>>12334243
It's not perfect

[Anonymous No.12334996]

>>12334989
based, good work anon

[Anonymous No.12335006]

this thing looks cool. If I've understood it correctly it flies up and then drops out a 2nd stage that does the rest of the work

[Anonymous No.12335011]

>>12335006
>cross-feed
>aerospikes
yeah this thing is never going to see the light of day, is it
https://firefly.com/launch-gamma/

[Anonymous No.12335018]

>>12334716
Anon, stop posting your autistic bunny outside of /gif/&/wsg/

[Anonymous No.12335021]

>>12335006

[Anonymous No.12335024]

>>12335006
>>12335011
Looks interesting, I doubt it'll ever fly in this form, but I wish them the best of luck

[Anonymous No.12335025]

>>12334208
estrogen

Fun fact: in good conditions estradiol powder can be stored indefinitely and turned into pills/injections etc. as needed.

[Anonymous No.12335051]

>>12335025
What's the ISP of estrogen?
About 30, because that's the age when they kill themselfs.

[Anonymous No.12335064]

>>12335051
You tried

[Anonymous No.12335076]

>>12334961
>make valid point with graph
>have to put cartoon on it in order to change it from a logical argument to an emotional one
Why do NPCs do this?

[Anonymous No.12335080]

>>12335006
Aaad it launches 2 kg in LEO!

[Anonymous No.12335086]

>>12335080
still probably cheaper then SLS.

[Anonymous No.12335090]

>>12335086
A soda bottling company could develop a more cost effective launch vehicle than the SLS

[Anonymous No.12335103]

>>12334079
why are you certain that the "honk" is a result of combustion instability?

[Anonymous No.12335124]

>>12335051
thats not ISP that's half-life

[Anonymous No.12335127]

>>12334816
>von braun thought the engineers and physicists from the local black colleges brought new ideas and hard work to NASA
On the flip side, he pushed for the founding of UA Huntsville specifically due to the fact that the local schools didn’t provide a sufficient level of talent for the area.

[Anonymous No.12335158]

Generator for the fuel pumps has been started and the pad is emptying. Hopefully testing in the next few hours

[Anonymous No.12335168]

>>12334079
"Honk" has previously occurred when combustion resonances in the turbopumps caused localized pressure spikes that blew out the turbopump stator. Not really combustion instability, the problem was that some frequencies were TOO stable and led to feedback loops that generated the 600 Hz vibrations. Also, this had nothing to do with the main combustion chamber or nozzle.

[Anonymous No.12335177]

>>12335168
>the problem was that some frequencies were TOO stable
man, rocket engineering is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.12335178]

>>12335168
SpaceX problems be like

[Anonymous No.12335181]

>>12335177
Tell me about it.

[Anonymous No.12335188]

>>12335181
.....To this

[Anonymous No.12335199]

>>12335188
Rule 1 of spaceflight manufacturing: You MUST have a vertical US flag in your warehouse

[Anonymous No.12335205]

>>12335199
Let's prove this anon right.
first up: rocket lab

[Anonymous No.12335208]

>>12335199
spacex

[Anonymous No.12335210]

>>12335199
Oh NO NO NO BLUE ORIGIN ISN'T VERTICAL

[Anonymous No.12335212]

>>12335199
boing

[Anonymous No.12335215]

>>12335199
>Vertical Processing Area
>vertical flag
>>12335208
>horizontal processing area
>horizontal flag?
Too bad the camera was pointing the wrong way to see it.
>>12335210
Looks like they're ready for some horizontal assembly!

[Anonymous No.12335217]

>>12335215
>Too bad the camera was pointing the wrong way to see it.
Damn, I finally saw it. Vertical. There goes my brilliant theory.

[Anonymous No.12335218]

>>12335199
Northrop

[Anonymous No.12335244]

Flag confirmed, right corner. Kind of small but it's there

[Anonymous No.12335255]

>>12335181
How much of that blueprint is for the massive hydrogen leak seals? I'll be honest most of this is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.12335262]

>>12335212
Fuck I don't want to admit it but Starliner is actually beautiful

[Anonymous No.12335270]

>>12334654
The achievement of another white person has nothing to do with you and isn't your achievement, you schizoid.

[Anonymous No.12335273]

>>12333648
spacexentric and what about it are total trash, stop watching them

[Anonymous No.12335279]

>>12335270
>The achievement of another black person has nothing to do with you and isn't your achievement, you schizoid.

[Anonymous No.12335281]

>>12335262
Apollo-esc aesthetics have always been good desu

[Anonymous No.12335285]

Why the fuck did i get a ban warning for talking about US politics influencing the upcoming NASA policy?
This is ridicilous, US new president administrations are highly /sfg/ related because of how they always try to destroy the legacy of the previous one.

[Anonymous No.12335297]

>>12335285
Good. Leave.

[Anonymous No.12335298]

>>12335051
one joke

[Anonymous No.12335299]

>>12334026
no and they're also shit
>>12334077
we've only been here what, a year?
two?
>>12334320
it's not the NOAA
well I mean, it is, but it's just a front for the CIA and the NRO

[Anonymous No.12335307]

>>12335297
>NOOOOO, i dont like it when people bring up how destructive democrats will be for NASA&spaceflight.
Go cry and report me again.

[Anonymous No.12335308]

>>12334447
all three astronauts had to be highly trained test pilots because if you tried to replace one of them with a geologist (only one) they would have thrown a huge stink

[Anonymous No.12335313]

>>12335025
No trannies

[Anonymous No.12335314]

>>12335285
Because we all recognize shitposting when we see it.

[Anonymous No.12335318]

>>12335299
>no and they're also shit
You have no soul, your hair is probably red and skin fair like a piece of letter paper

[Anonymous No.12335321]

>>12334208
Some literature from Giovanni Gentile

[Anonymous No.12335324]

anything happening today lads?

[Anonymous No.12335329]

>>12335324
https://youtu.be/Ky5l9ZxsG9M

[Anonymous No.12335333]

>>12335329
static fire incoming?

[Anonymous No.12335335]

>>12335318
anon, appeals to emotion will have no effect here, it's just not a good design

[Anonymous No.12335359]

>>12335333
>>12335324
Pad has been cleared but no tank farm activity yet. There's supposed to be another static fire today but that's probably another few hours out

[Anonymous No.12335365]

>>12335359
thanks mate. if this goes well, do we anticipate the flight in the next few days?

[Anonymous No.12335367]

>>12335365
If this is the two engine static fire as planned then it should be the three engine static fire after that, then the hop

[Anonymous No.12335372]

>>12335365
hard to say. For one we're not sure how many static fire remain. Probably at least one like >>12335367 pointed out and maybe another one after that to test switching from main to header tanks. Assuming all goes well the hop should be pretty close

[Anonymous No.12335387]

What a realistic independence movement in space might look like
>Short-term, private actors could use contracts to begin separating activities from terrestrial control. Could require participants to use space-based dispute resolution & avoid recourse to terrestrial courts, so long as everything is consistent with the OST & applicable law.
>Skipping ahead, once you have a functioning entity, you're going to largely be meeting traditional requirements for independence. Territorial control, institutions of governance, etc. You did all this without doing any violence to the existing legal system.
>You've got at least two interrelated issues. 1, how to get recognized. 2, where you fit in the international system. Recognition is hard, and will be a (hopefully peaceful) fight. But we've done that before, kosovo, etc. You need to demonstrate that you can govern.
>Being truly self-sustaining probably isn't necessary (no country is) but as a practical matter you are going to need an independent source of funds, something to trade, etc. as bare minimum.
https://twitter.com/Monkeybane_DC/status/1326988494917545988

[Anonymous No.12335390]

>>12335367
>>12335372
thanks fellas, appreciate the info

[Anonymous No.12335392]

it just occurred to me that the most recent droneship landed F9 had to make it back while dealing with that hurricane. Bet that was fun.

[Anonymous No.12335409]

>>12335279
True. Fucking wingnat.

[Anonymous No.12335413]

>>12335409
Correct, natwing fucking.

[Anonymous No.12335416]

>>12335307
commcercial crew was a obummer era program.

wingnats MUST go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.12335426]

>>12335416
We have been over this, commercial crew program was just another way to throw a shitload of money at boeing.
SpaceX just got lucky and recieved some pocketchange compared to the cut that boeing had because they needed some other parties because of the "commercial" part of the program.
Nobody expected spaceX to succeed, hell, boeing's entire plan was to ask for more money when spaceX eventually failed if recent leaks are real.
You demfags trying to pin spaceX succes on Obama's legacy is a fucking travesty.

[Anonymous No.12335430]

jimposting will never feel the same bros...

[Anonymous No.12335435]

>>12335426
>boeing's entire plan was to ask for more money when spaceX eventually failed if recent leaks are real.
wait, what the fuck really? I figured that people saying this were just dumping on boeing, not referring to a leak

[Anonymous No.12335440]

>>12335387
This flag is so ugly it evokes physical disgust in me

[Anonymous No.12335444]

>>12335430
Just make a bunch of Punished Jim memes

[Anonymous No.12335449]

What the fuck? Victor Glover is the first black person to live on the ISS? 20 years and he is the first? Manley's tweet was super gay he should have at least mentioned this- not talked about how DM-2 was only white men

[Anonymous No.12335451]

>>12335426
>when your republican house denies funds for space and you cope it into somehow being evil dems
Also Boing and oldspace in general fucking hate being expected to work under non-costplus conditions. CCrew isn't perfect but it's about a million times better constructed than we're used to seeing out of NASA.

[Anonymous No.12335453]

>>12335449
What? That can't be right, there were black people on the Shuttles all through that period.

[Anonymous No.12335458]

>>12334709
What does it look like when you get close to a gas giant? Excluding the plasma sheath around the spacecraft as it burns like a Talmud in Nazi Germany.

[Anonymous No.12335459]

>>12335449
Berger wrote an article on it today and it's super gay. Comes across as super white apologetic. I mean don't get me wrong it IS weird that a black astronaut hasn't flown since 2011. But Berger is so fucking annoying. He's the type of person to see a black person on the street and raise a fist in solidarity

[Anonymous No.12335462]

>>12335453
I don't give a shit about skin color but if you want the data: black people have visited the ISS but usually for less than a week. They were all mainly shuttle missions that did satellite deployments and stuff and just so happened to visit the station for a few days to deliver supplies. Glover is the first to actually go there and have a room to himself and stuff

[Anonymous No.12335463]

>>12335462
>and have a room to himself and stuff
It somehow never occurred to me that everyone has their own rooms. Sounds super comfy.

[Anonymous No.12335466]

>>12335463
iirc their "rooms" are just a closet with a sleeping roll

[Anonymous No.12335468]

>>12335453
But they didn't stay, kek how many japs have stayed there before NASA bothered to send him?

[Anonymous No.12335470]

>>12335466
Yeah but in microgravity everything feels a lot bigger because the entire cubic space is yours. You aren't just stuck on the floor. That's why schematics of the apollo capsule look cramped but once they're in space it looks big- because you can float around the whole thing

[Anonymous No.12335472]

>>12335468
Probably not a lot. Ugh I'm torn because it IS surprising that he is the first black person to stay there and the ISS has been around for twenty fucking years. But at the same time skin color doesn't matter. I just wish we lived in a society where skin color didn't fucking matter. It irks me that people want to make everything about race.

[Anonymous No.12335476]

>>12335470
good point. When we reach the point where living spaces in space aren't 100% decided by necessity things like room design and layout would be interesting. I guess you could devote each wall to something, like have a desk on one and a bed on the other. Would get surreal really quickly, though.

[Anonymous No.12335477]

>>12335463
>>12335466
>>12335470
For me, it's shitposting from the Russian sleeping pods

[Anonymous No.12335478]

>>12335459
Maybe he couldn't learn Russian so he fucked off.

[Anonymous No.12335482]

>>12335210
Not going to make it

[Anonymous No.12335485]

>>12335477
The russian segment is so fucking depressing lmao. The ISS as a whole is so cluttered, but the US segment is very crisp and clean and white. Even the spacesuits are white. Everything russia makes is so dim and dark and yellowed and shit. The russian segment has a ton of cramped spaces and random tubes running everywhere

[Anonymous No.12335487]

>>12335466
I guess it beats being stacked like cord-wood in the bottom hull.

[Anonymous No.12335488]

>>12335485
Smoker's teeth yellow is peak Soviet aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.12335490]

>>12335472
>Probably not a lot
Five apparently

[Anonymous No.12335491]

>>12335485
Watch her go from the USA segment to the Russia segment. It goes from a bright happy station to a fucking depressing claustrophobic dungeon. The ruskies just have a different philosophy when it comes to spaceflight
https://youtu.be/06-Xm3_Ze1o?t=1166

[Anonymous No.12335495]

Why do all these photos of modern space factories have no fucking workers? someone post the F-1 factory with workers scrambling

[Anonymous No.12335496]

>>12335477
THIS NIGGA EATIN BEANS

[Anonymous No.12335497]

>>12335491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--qXxZeZq_I
The Mir/Shuttle contrast is even more extreme.

[Anonymous No.12335499]

>>12335495
You tell the drones to get the fuck out of the shot before taking the picture.

[Anonymous No.12335501]

>>12335485
It's worth noting that the Russian modules are based on 70's technology and Zezvda was literally built in the 80s

[Anonymous No.12335503]

>>12335485
Why didn't they paint it the same delightful shade of blue they use for their planes and tanks to make up for the otherwise shitty interior conditions?

[Anonymous No.12335504]

>>12335440
Agreed. The Trek version the the martian flag sounds much better.

[Anonymous No.12335505]

>>12335497
Holy fuck that made me cackle out loud. Mir looks like a fucking prison. The shuttle looks like a clean heavenly spacious oasis by comparison

[Anonymous No.12335506]

>>12335496
Imagine farting in space haha

[Anonymous No.12335512]

>>12335477
This is literally MFW I'm typing out a 300 word /sfg/ response as to why I hate SLS

[Anonymous No.12335519]

>>12335435
Per NSF's Starliner discussion
>The problem is that Boeing figured that - since the client was NASA - they could get away with doing a lousy job on a milestone-based Firm Fixed Price contract and finish the milestones properly upon getting (much) additional money.

>But reality bit Boeing in the behind when NASA did NOT turn the Firm Fixed Price contract into (pseudo) Cost-Plus. Which in turn led Boeing to flying OFT while the d*rn thing was nowhere near ready to fly.

>And even after the disaster that was OFT-1 Boeing still expected that NASA would pick up the tab for the OFT re-flight. In essence, Boeing expected NASA to pay additional money so that Boeing could meet a required milestone. That is not how milestone-based Firm Fixed Price contracts work.

>Fortunaly NASA said no despite Boeing trying to convince NASA during negotiations that lasted for months.

>Boeing management fundamentally does not understand the workings and implications of a milestones-based Firm Fixed Price contract.

>From what I have learned from various sources in the 10 months since OFT-1 is that Boeing management expected (from 2013 forward) that the Firm Fixed Price contract for CCtCAP would eventually morph into a pseude Cost-Plus contract.

>Fortunately for Commercial Crew that never happened.

>This expectation by Boeing management was based on a number of incorrect assumptions, prime being that they expected SpaceX to fail in delivering a working product for just $2.6 billion (which is exactly the thing you already mentioned). Boeing expected that SpaceX would eventually go back to NASA and ask for more money. Which in turn would open the door for Boeing going to NASA and asking for more money.

>Quite frankly I find it amazing that Boeing expected SpaceX to fail, given the track-record SpaceX had by then (2013), courtesy of COTS and CRS phase 1.

[Anonymous No.12335522]

>>12335505
Between the fire and the collision, it's amazing no one died on Mir. It's the most ghetto spacecraft ever flown.

[Anonymous No.12335526]

>>12335522
I look forward to the day when space is so busy that attitudes as cavalier as Mir are commonplace and car crash-tier death rates are accepted as a consequence of doing business

[Anonymous No.12335527]

>>12335519
What is more ridiculous bros?
The fact that they expected spacex to fail- or the fact that they expected NASA to pick up the entire tab on their failed test

[Anonymous No.12335528]

>>12335522
It might be the alcohol but you are making me laugh my ass off. Ghetto lmao. The Mir fire should have grounded it for good. And the collision was literally a worst-case-scenario come true

[Anonymous No.12335535]

>>12335527
It was reasonable for them to expect NASA to bend over for them considering that under cost plus conditions and other management that is what happens every single time. The kids glove attitude with Boing is still present, even Jim engaged in it when he singled out SpaceX and ignored Boing despite boing inferior performance

[Anonymous No.12335539]

>>12335025
trannies in 1g have osteoporosis and joint and muscle dysfunction. Imagine the bags of useless adipose they would be in micro-g and on mars.

[Anonymous No.12335541]

>>12335539
Good thing they will be disqualified from colonies. We will only be taking horny men and women who A) have the ability to multiply, and B) aren't gay
Why don't you tweet THIS out scott manley

[Anonymous No.12335545]

>>12334106
Muscle atrophy was solved years ago

[Anonymous No.12335547]

>>12334298
You are 100% right anon.

[Anonymous No.12335549]

>>12335497
Looks like something out of a horror film

[Anonymous No.12335553]

>>12335541
MFW Mars will be a nuclear family paradise

[Anonymous No.12335555]

>>12335025
Trannies should die

[Anonymous No.12335561]

>>12335555
Fucking checked

[Anonymous No.12335567]

>>12335506
What's the ISP of a bad fart
You can't tell me some astronaut or cosmonaut hasn't floated touching nothing, ripped ass then tried measuring the imperceptible change in their motion.

[Anonymous No.12335573]

>>12335506
What is the Isp of a fart? Does it improve if you light the fart? How do different beans affect the propulsive properties?
4ASS needs funding for important studies like these.

[Anonymous No.12335574]

Another static fire tonight what the fuck let's fucking go

[Anonymous No.12335577]

>>12335567
>>12335573
Now you've got me wondering what kind of nozzle an ass makes

[Anonymous No.12335579]

>>12335577
Depends on how much you clench.

[Anonymous No.12335585]

>>12335076
>Noooo don’t use memes on 4Chan

[Anonymous No.12335586]

we're igniting the fart right? or is it just a hot gas thruster

[Anonymous No.12335591]

>>12335574
People are claiming it's just a wet dress rehearsal.

[Anonymous No.12335599]

>>12335519
Christ, even I could run a space program better than Boing

[Anonymous No.12335601]

>>12335591
>>12335574
According to NSF it's just a WDR tonight and probably some other things like messing with the RCS. Apparently a static fire was in the plans but it got shelved for today. Probably tomorrow instead?

[Anonymous No.12335604]

>>12335599
systems without built-in accountability always ALWAYS turn to shit. No exceptions.

[Anonymous No.12335608]

MY FUCKING EYES

[Anonymous No.12335615]

>>12335608
STARHOPPER HAS AWAKENED!

[Anonymous No.12335618]

>>12335608
>starhopper goes orbital out of nowhere

[Anonymous No.12335632]

God damn why does one of the guys on NSF sound like he has a metric ton of marbles in his mouth

[Anonymous No.12335635]

>Elon wanted SN8 flying far sooner
>But her creators quickly grew attached and are delaying so they can increase her survivability chances as much as possible
this is my shitty headcannon

[Anonymous No.12335642]

>only two of the bottom vents are venting instead of all three
People were saying that yesterday's test was a single engine. Are we getting a two engine test today and a three engine test tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.12335647]

>>12335608
Oh god it's waking up

[Anonymous No.12335648]

>>12335579
>Variable geometry nozzle
The key to efficient engines was your asshole all along.

[Anonymous No.12335649]

>>12335608
>>12333880 father >>12334243 son >>12335608 holy spirit

[Anonymous No.12335653]

>labpadre streamer is talking
>*mutes*
Fuck your donation begging.

[Anonymous No.12335656]

>>12335615
>>12335618
I like how they're using starhopper as a mount for a bunch of random shit

>>12335632
Strangely I've met a few people who talk exactly like that. They're all eccentric, really smart, huge nerds, and can't fucking talk. Still better than your average normie though.

[Anonymous No.12335660]

>>12335649
Deus Vult

[Anonymous No.12335663]

siren apparently going off

[Anonymous No.12335664]

>>12335632
I can't listen to that stream without a growing feeling to punch a hole in my wall

[Anonymous No.12335665]

>>12335648
With enough sphincter control you can perform short duration bursts to fly around the interior of a ship.
>inb4 next Cygnus goes up full of beans and glade plugins

[Anonymous No.12335668]

【OPEN YOUR EYES】

[Anonymous No.12335669]

>>12335615
>>12335618
>>12335647
>>12335649
it actually looks pretty cool behind all the condensation

[Anonymous No.12335670]

>>12335669
It's like a vision of Heaven.

[Anonymous No.12335671]

SIREN
>SIREN
SIREN
>SIREN
SIREN
>SIREN
SIREN
>SIREN

[Anonymous No.12335673]

>>12335663
yeah, apparently Mary of NSF heard one but I've not heard shit from the stream. Maybe the on-site sound isn't working

[Anonymous No.12335675]

>>12334989
Bretty Good, danke anon.

[Anonymous No.12335679]

>>12335608
>The power of the sun in the palm of my hand

[Anonymous No.12335689]

NOOOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK IT WASNT EVEN FIRING YET

[Anonymous No.12335690]

I've got a bad feeling tonight bros...

[Anonymous No.12335695]

short fire, more debris flew up.

[Anonymous No.12335696]

STATIC FIRE LMAO

[Anonymous No.12335697]

>600hz
ITS OVER
T
S
O
V
E
R

[Anonymous No.12335699]

Just static fired

[Anonymous No.12335700]

BRRRRAAAAAAAAP

[Anonymous No.12335703]

>>12335664
i think he has no teef

[Anonymous No.12335704]

>>12335690
Tomorrow's Friday the 13th.

[Anonymous No.12335705]

>static fire lasted 2 seconds
ENGINE FAILURE

[Anonymous No.12335706]

[Anonymous No.12335707]

IT'S PISSING MOLTEN TURBO PUMP LMAO

[Anonymous No.12335708]

What the fuck is leaking out of the bottom???????

[Anonymous No.12335709]

>>12335632
Honestly that guy isnt as bad as the retard blowhard photographer jack beyer they get on stream

[Anonymous No.12335710]

Oh fuck, that surprised me. Had the stream open on one monitor and was playing nethack on the other, seeing orange in my periphery without any talk of sirens scared the hell out of me.

[Anonymous No.12335711]

>>12335705
nah dude it was a good 4 seconds or so

[Anonymous No.12335712]

F

[Anonymous No.12335714]

>>12335707
Holy shit. Rip sn8

[Anonymous No.12335715]

HOLY FUCK I'M NOT EVEN SHITPOSTING, STARSHIP IS BLEEDING FIRE FROM THE ASS

[Anonymous No.12335718]

Flames still coming out the bottom

[Anonymous No.12335719]

>molten shit
OH NO NO NO SPACEX BROS

[Anonymous No.12335720]

wtf is that shit under the engines is it on fire

[Anonymous No.12335721]

>SpaceX can test fire a highly experimental rocket with engine troubles in a field
>Boing! can't test fire a 30 year old rocket with artesian made parts on a clean test stand

[Anonymous No.12335722]

>>12335706
>mystery event
kek

[Anonymous No.12335723]

>>12335703
He's ok compared to the other two.

[Anonymous No.12335725]

Looks like we're set back 6+ months FUCK

[Anonymous No.12335726]

if the "debris" were of any consequence it wouldn't be able to fire again after yesterday you idiots. It's probably just ice I mean there's a fuckton of shit venting there

[Anonymous No.12335727]

>they haven't depressed the thank
WHAT ARE THEY DOING???

[Anonymous No.12335728]

>>12335706
Holy shit imagine 27 Raptors

[Anonymous No.12335729]

>>12335726
Bro what type of ice melts like slag. It looks like SN8 just had turbopump taco bell and it's now suffering an anal prolapse or something

[Anonymous No.12335731]

>>12335689
lmao

[Anonymous No.12335733]

>>12335726
It's not the debris, it looked like lava pouring out of the bottom.

[Anonymous No.12335734]

>raptors are liquid fire
>starship still full of fuel
explosion imminent

[Anonymous No.12335737]

>>12335733
Where? All I see on padre's stream is billowing gas.

[Anonymous No.12335738]

>>12335734
>>12335733
>>12335729
>>12335725
I watched yesterdays static fire and it did the same drip thing afterwards too lmao, just not as much

[Anonymous No.12335740]

LabPadre guys saying NONE of the metals on starship could have melted at all given their melting points, especially given the short deration. Could be an internal part but most likely slag that deposited and melted off

[Anonymous No.12335741]

>>12335729
the debris are not emitting light on their own, they're just reflecting the fire. As soon as the engine turns off the sparks disappear. They're not molten

>>12335733
bro... that's what a rocket does

[Anonymous No.12335744]

w-what was that stuff sparking down the skirt

[Anonymous No.12335745]

What in the hell could have melted in that quantity in such a short time?

[Anonymous No.12335746]

>>12335710
based roguelike bro

[Anonymous No.12335747]

>>12335734
>explosion imminent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Boca_Chica_Disaster

[Anonymous No.12335748]

>>12335744
afterbirth

[Anonymous No.12335751]

>>12335737
>>12335741
Not sure how to do it on live, but if you go back ~8:30 you'll see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4jeTasfroM

Either some gas getting purged catching, or something weird.

[Anonymous No.12335752]

There's no way combusting Methalox can melt steel that fast, that's physically impossible lmao

[Anonymous No.12335754]

>>12335725
Q2 2021 BROS

[Anonymous No.12335755]

>>12335752
Methalox can't melt steel turbines

[Anonymous No.12335756]

Wtf the actual labpadre guy sounds like a retard normie potsmoker who knows nothing about rockets. Is he just some low life boca chica local who set up a channel and got a bunch of smarter people to help him run it?

[Anonymous No.12335759]

>>12335751
you mean this residual fire? I've seen that before. Don't think it's anything to worry about

[Anonymous No.12335762]

>>12335756
Bingo!

[Anonymous No.12335765]

No detank yet. Another static fire?

[Anonymous No.12335766]

>>12335744
prehop

[Anonymous No.12335767]

>they haven't detanked yet
Looks like they're setting up for another static fire

[Anonymous No.12335768]

>>12335759
it looked more like this

[Anonymous No.12335771]

>>12335759
It wasn't just a residual flame it was pouring down. Speculation on the broadcast was relight sparkler.

[Anonymous No.12335776]

Well perhaps they will do a second static fire tonight, that would be nice

[Anonymous No.12335778]

It was probably burning liquid methane pouring out of the engines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSItpibTSVk
Video related :)

[Anonymous No.12335779]

>>12335776
>>12335767
That'd be bitchin'.

[Anonymous No.12335781]

>Vehicle is still pressurized
>Bottom dripping fire
>Drone inspecting
The madmen are going to do it

[Anonymous No.12335782]

>>12335767
Actually, the LOX vent valve froze shut. They're currently drawing straws to decide who has to run out there with a 12 gauge and manually vent it.

[Anonymous No.12335783]

>>12335778
>liquid methane
>burning
I find this thermodynamically dubious

[Anonymous No.12335784]

>>12335778
Nice to see lab safety protocol being followed kek

[Anonymous No.12335786]

wait what happened with static? I missed it. another howl?

[Anonymous No.12335788]

FUCKING STATIC FIRE AGAIN I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WE NEED A HOP WHATEVER THE COST. SN9 IS READY IF NEED BE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.12335791]

>>12335788
NNN hurting you anon?

[Anonymous No.12335792]

>>12335786
Honk seemed quieter this time. Still had debris. Then it started having something flaming coming out the bottom.

[Anonymous No.12335793]

>>12335765
Maybe they're switching to fire from the header tank's fuel? The first fire was using the main tank, right? That'd be a useful thing to test, make sure you can swap between the two in short order.

[Anonymous No.12335794]

The honk wasn’t as loud this time

[Anonymous No.12335797]

>>12335788
UGGGHHHH IM GONNA STATIC FIRE AM I EDGING YOU ANON? DOES THIS FRUSTRATE YOU?

[Anonymous No.12335804]

>>12335788
>SN9 is ready
SN12 is already getting fins on it's nosecone. We need more pads for testing.

[Anonymous No.12335807]

>>12335804
I suspect the limiting factor is the total number of engineers and technicians rather than the number of vehicles that can be on a pad at a given time.

[Anonymous No.12335813]

>>12335807
also I doubt they have the ground support equipment set up for multiple pads. GSE is never though of much but in reality it's a real pain in the dick to get right.

[Anonymous No.12335821]

>Getting a static fire and already craving more in one night
What the fuck anons, don't get too cocky. Imagine rooting for SLS with the hunger you guys have lmao

[Anonymous No.12335824]

>>12335804
Mexicans labor is cheep, and they're good at welding together rockets

[Anonymous No.12335828]

>>12335821
Yes we've already had static fire, but what about second static fire?

[Anonymous No.12335832]

>>12335828
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.12335837]

>>12335828
>He doesn't know about second static fire

[Anonymous No.12335841]

More ice is forming?

[Anonymous No.12335842]

>>12335821
After years of being blue balled by oldspace, this is understandable

[Anonymous No.12335846]

>>12335828
SLS gives you elevenses... (eleven years that is)

[Anonymous No.12335851]

>>12335824
Lunar starship demonstration flight using cetacean mass simulator when?

[Anonymous No.12335853]

>>12335821
When did they test fire the SRB again? Months ago. And nothing since

[Anonymous No.12335858]

>>12335853
Two months ago. It's made by Northrup who also pitched the OmegA (which is literally the exact same SRB as shuttle and SLS) and the nozzle fucking exploded during testing

[Anonymous No.12335859]

>>12335853
Pretty sure that was like a year ago lmao.

[Anonymous No.12335862]

>>12335853
Space is hard anon, one cat1 hurricane in the vicinity of the test site and you need to delay for six months and request $6 billion more

[Anonymous No.12335865]

How can it be legal for that lab guy to film the launch from his porch? And even if it is legal, what about cancer?

[Anonymous No.12335869]

>>12335865
>what about cancer?
What ABOUT cancer?

[Anonymous No.12335870]

>>12335862
Im pretty sure it was a tropical storm and it wasn't even a direct hit. Fuck NASA it's full of pussies
>>12335865
Elon said he doesn't mind. If there is something worthy of violating ITER he said he would do it in private where no one can see. DESU I'm pretty sure Elon checks in on NSF and labpadre footage sometimes after they do testing. As for cancer I have no idea what you are talking about

[Anonymous No.12335872]

>>12335865
>How can it be legal for that lab guy to film the launch from his porch?
He's standing on his property using equipment that's commonly available to everyone to watch something that someone has put no effort in covering up. If SpaceX doesn't want anyone watching them, then they should erect a wall.

[Anonymous No.12335875]

>>12335865
Do you actually think he's sitting there with a camera?

[Anonymous No.12335878]

>>12335870
>ITER
International Traffic in Erms Regulations

[Anonymous No.12335880]

>>12335608
HOPPER HAS ASCENDED

[Anonymous No.12335882]

>>12332762
Never got to reply to you but this made me laugh
>>12335880
It's bright as shit right now

[Anonymous No.12335886]

>>12335865
>what about cancer?
Do you think Starship is using hypergolics? Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.12335887]

>>12335872
Um sweaty, walls are racist.

[musclegirlposter No.12335889]

>>12334208
my winning smile.

[Anonymous No.12335890]

>>12335869
>>12335870
that site is 10 times worse than any soviet chemical plant, plants have filters and high chimneys and don't blow out huge amounts of carcinogenic smoke at ground level
>>12335875
he's still getting cancer even when he's not outside when they test.

[Anonymous No.12335892]

>>12335878

[Anonymous No.12335893]

>>12335890
Anon I-
Liquid nitrogen and oxygen being pumped out as air isn't going to kill you. And any methane gets burned off

[Anonymous No.12335896]

>>12335890
ogey

[Anonymous No.12335897]

>>12335890
>carcinogens
>methalox
Shit burns cleaner than, may Allah forgive me, pr*pane

[Anonymous No.12335899]

>>12335892
>International Thermonuclear Axperimental Reactor

[Anonymous No.12335900]

>>12334812
As the OP of that meme, I am very proud to have left some form of legacy here.

[Anonymous No.12335901]

>>12335890
Uh
are you sure anon?
Maybe you should double check.

[Anonymous No.12335904]

I get bullied cause I called it ITER Im sorry

[Anonymous No.12335907]

>>12335853
They've done 3 static fires for the SRB over the last 5 years and nothing else

[Anonymous No.12335908]

>>12335900
what corruption did Musk reveal?

[Anonymous No.12335912]

IMAGE LIMIT REACHED, THREAD IS STAGING
>>12335909

[Anonymous No.12335917]

>>12335908
I was referring to jewish corruption in journalism. I take it you've seen that screencap of Elon going "uh HELLO, who owns the news outlets?" and twitter checkmarks kvetching like someone dropped a penny into a well

[Anonymous No.12335918]

Fuck Image limit reached
Page 8 stage 8, hot staging boys:
New Thread: >>12335913
>>>12335913
12335913
>>12335913
>>>12335913
12335913

[Anonymous No.12335920]

>>12335912
FUCK I HAD MINE TYPED OUT LIKE HOURS AGO WAITING TO GO. Oh well let's go with yours first and change to mine after

[Anonymous No.12335931]

>>12335920
ah, my bad.

[Anonymous No.12336215]

>>12334208
The Book of Mormon

[Anonymous No.12336456]

>>12335726
>It's probably just ice
It's not ice, it's concrete

[Anonymous No.12336465]

>>12335865
>And even if it is legal, what about cancer?
Are you under the impression that Starship uses some kind of fusion torch propulsion system, anon?