/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12280621]

Is he right about climate change?

[Anonymous No.12280639]

His position was that the effects of raised CO2 levels aren't well understood and that Chinas coal burning process was much dirtier than the US's.

[Anonymous No.12280657]

>>12280639
>effects of raised CO2 levels aren't well understood
not true
>china is way worse than the US
true
but even if your neighbor killed 10 kittens last week and you only killed 2, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't reduce your number of kittens killed. both sources need to be addressed

[Anonymous No.12280681]

>>12280639
No, his position was that Earth is losing its atmosphere and that CO2 pumping into the atmosphere is keeping us from experiencing the next ice age.

[Anonymous No.12280693]

>>12280639
>effects of raised CO2 levels aren't well understood
obviously true, considering the Earth has gone through dozens of high-carbon phases and never overheated like Venus

In fact, scientists are now learning that somehow (mostly likely by migrating to the equatorial regions) dinosaurs survived as many as 500 ice ages during their dominance on earth.

[Anonymous No.12280697]

>>12280657
not only that, a lot of China's pollution is caused by the manufacture industry, for which which we are in part greatly responsible.
Western world and especially burgers just overconsoom.
We just outsource our production over to China because the labor is cheap.
We as western consoomers are directly responsible for a great portion of the pollution in China.

[Anonymous No.12280714]

>>12280697
We didnt force them to make it you stupid fuck, they feed their families making that shit. All they have to do is stop making it if they dont want to make it.
>it isnt the fault of the person doing it it is the other reason and thing to blame
Seriously fuck off I cant stand stupid motherfuckes like you. Always trying to push the blame off on someone else.

[Anonymous No.12280743]

Chemtrails?

[Anonymous No.12280754]

>>12280681
this

[Anonymous No.12280761]

>>12280697
>western consoomers are directly responsible

[Anonymous No.12280769]

>>12280697
>it isnt American pedophiles fault for raping little girls Mexico is directly responsible for not guarding the border and letting coyotes bring them to the US

[Anonymous No.12280778]

Elites have weather alteration machines

[Anonymous No.12280781]

shouldn't plants be thriving if there's lots of co2 lol

[Anonymous No.12280799]

>>12280781
they are

[Anonymous No.12280810]

>>12280697
>we
Uhmm you mean Australia right? The country that fuels all of China's growth? And you're trying to say it's Australia's fault for selling them ores and not collapsing their own economy and causing mass starvation?

Ok anon. Explain what they're meant to do. Lets say you are right and Australia right now refuses to sell any ores to ANYONE, causing a complete economic collapse in their own country and in the Chinese manufacturing sector, causing millions to starve and crime to explode. What then? Do you think China wont find other ores?

[Anonymous No.12280824]

>>12280810
>Lets say you are right and Australia right now refuses to sell any ores to ANYONE, causing a complete economic collapse in their own country and in the Chinese manufacturing sector, causing millions to starve and crime to explode
Based

[Anonymous No.12280826]

>>12280621
Climate change is physically unavoidable. It's not even climate change that's the problem, it's the entropy resulting from the technological growth. Even if you solved the CO2 issue you'd still have passive heating up that will only get worse as we advance further. Because this planet cannot dissipate heat from so many people at such technological levels.

When people put forward the issue of heating up, yes they are correct. But what they conveniently do not put forward is the fact that we must either
>1) exterminate people Guidestones-style
>2) revert to pure anarcho-primitivism with a theocratic government that forbids technology
What they propose, carbon taxes and then negative emission plants and low EROI green energy and so on, all of that is literally useless. It generates a tiny local dip but the graph will be up to where it was just a few years later if the population and technological growth rates are maintained. So they must be suppressed on top of enforcing a carbon-prevention dystopia, which is essentially the above two points.

The issue of heating up is, firstly, a malthusian one, and secondly, an issue of our inability to colonize planets that are further away from the Sun and therefor have a higher heating up budget. Non-expansionist technology grew too fast while expansionist technology such as habitability improvements, space travel and GMO all stagnated at a very poor level, not at all the level we should've been on right now. We should have at least a tiny percent of our manufacturing on the moon and at least a test colony on Mars by now, but we barely even have the foundations for either. Our issue of unavoidable entropy has nothing to do with CO2. The process of heating up cannot be prevented locally on the planet when the population variable is unbounded, solving CO2 will only delay it for one generation. But it can be spread across several of them instead which is the more logical solution we should be striving towards.

[Anonymous No.12280862]

>>12280826
>1) exterminate people Guidestones-style
>2) revert to pure anarcho-primitivism with a theocratic government that forbids technology
Releasing a pandemic virus will work too. Fun times just around the corner

[Anonymous No.12280899]

>>12280810
based and economicspilled

[Anonymous No.12280908]

>>12280810
??
Reagan and Nixon sold out American manufacturing to China.
The amount of shit America consumes from China is through the roof.
Their standards are ass. We support it.

[Anonymous No.12280911]

>>12280714
>>12280761
>>12280769
samefag

[Anonymous No.12280930]

>>12280911
Yes I am one and three you stupid fuck I would think it is obvious but no I am not 2 and you are still a stupid faggot

[Anonymous No.12280950]

>>12280693
absolutely nothing you've said had anything to do with the discussion.

[Anonymous No.12280967]

>>12280693
>we don't know eating enriched uranium is harmful because no one has eaten uranium and caused a nuclear detonation. Therefore it's fine to dump it in the water supply

[Anonymous No.12280975]

alex jones is a manchild crybaby and you're a fucking idiot if you take even a single word he says seriously

[Anonymous No.12280979]

>>12280810
What is that growth for? Selling shit to the west and who is the biggest consumer in the west? America dumbass. Look how far we have come it's just a full circle.

[Anonymous No.12280990]

>>12280975
You're retarded. He has been right about everything. Go vote for Biden.

[Anonymous No.12280999]

Alex Jones is based and right about everything.

[Anonymous No.12281001]

>>12280990
it's unironically embarrassing how cucked alex is now. He basically does nothing but simp for trump now.

[Anonymous No.12281015]

>>12280621
he was always right, about all of it

[Anonymous No.12281064]

>>12280810
ah yes, because it's totally not a very complex situation and you can totally reduce this to sino-australian relations

>the only way to solve this is obviously to stop everything immediatly

That's some subhuman deductive reasoning you got there anon, even by /sci/ standards

[Anonymous No.12281081]

>>12280714
>All they have to do is stop making it if they dont want to make it.
>they feed their families making that shit
Are you fucking retarded?

>We didnt force them
Indeed we didn't. But the workshop owner get some good burgerbucks, and the workers are kinda stuck in their situations.
Turns out life isnt some kind of Ayn Rand utopia where you can just Jocko Willink your way to sustenance in two weeks.

Brainlets like you always individuate problems without considering systemic dynamics at play.

[Anonymous No.12281091]

>>12280826
This post is so full of shit.

[Anonymous No.12281092]

>>12281081
>Are you fucking retarded?
Nice argument, obviously you are stupid fuck stfu you stupid cunt

[Anonymous No.12281093]

>>12280862
>>12280862
should we tell them "the pandemic" is going to "mutate" and get worse or that the pandemic will cause food shortages due to argiculture being shutdown causing mass starvation and deaths in the hundreds of millions

[Anonymous No.12281095]

>>12281081
>Brainlets like you always individuate problems without considering systemic dynamics at play.
literally did the exact opposite, you are massively fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.12281103]

>>12281093
Doesnt matter what we tell them they don't listen anyway. They will get what they deserve

[Anonymous No.12281104]

>>12280899
>i took an introduction to economics class in college
>muh free murket
>ayn rand lmao
>invisible handerino
hahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.12281107]

>>12281104
>hahahah I'm smart guise watch I will mock people with non arguments
stfu you stupid cunt, you are a clown

[Anonymous No.12281115]

>>12281095
>literally did the exact opposite
>china is solely responsible for its pollution
>international relations have absolutely nothing to do with this
>I'm totally not being reductive
I'm not blaming you anon, a rat brain doesn't have that much processing power

[Anonymous No.12281117]

>>12281092
>>12281107
Seethe

[Anonymous No.12281121]

>>12281115
>>12281117
wrap my ass cheeks around your face and suck out a wet fart you ass sniffing homosexual

[Anonymous No.12281125]

>>12281121
im not the one asking for it

[Anonymous No.12281127]

>>12281125
cope

[Anonymous No.12281520]

>>12280621
holy shit is there a new Alex Jones Episode? That's not the shirt he wore the last two times

[Anonymous No.12281521]

>>12280621
YES

[Anonymous No.12281523]

>>12281520
oh my god and it's the new background

[Anonymous No.12281525]

>>12281521
GOD HAS BLESSED THIS DAY
bye faggots I'm off spending my time in far better ways

[Anonymous No.12281574]

>>12280621
He is mostly correct. During the Eocene Epoch earth had far more CO2 and had a far higher carrying capacity. Life was abundant everywhere with very few deserts. There is no reason to think humans would not thrive in such conditions.

Coastal cites will be fine, they will just build dykes like the Netherlands.

[Anonymous No.12281618]

Lemme guess, there's no point in doing anything because MUH CHYNA.

[Anonymous No.12281758]

>>12281618
"Their numbers were off by <5% 30 years ago so lets be completely wrong and dishonest today."

[Anonymous No.12281763]

Why is Alex Jones discussed on /sci/ of all places?

[Anonymous No.12281767]

>>12281763
Because he based

[Anonymous No.12281823]

>>12280697
>for which which we are in part greatly responsible
This thought process right here is why China gets away with every heinous thing they do to the environment, to their people, and as of recently, to the world.
Xi could murder a child live on TV, and there would be a large number of people that genuinely believe western culture would be at fault for his actions.

[Anonymous No.12281840]

>>12281091
nice downvote but why?

[Anonymous No.12282031]

>>12281763
because we arent clueless faggots thatr eat tendies and pick our ass all day and actually have situational awareness about the world around us unlike spergy donkey likes you. We arent sociopathioc fuck tards and actually care about our nations, communities and people and arent real keen on having psyops run on us by psycopaths that want to enslave and kill us. Is that alirght with you you little faggot?

[Anonymous No.12282032]

>>12281763
Why wouldn't he be? You're not one of those >100 IQ anons who think he's crazy, right?

[Anonymous No.12282043]

>>12282031
Inject disinfectant.

[Anonymous No.12282047]

>>12282043
kys mindless gimp

[Anonymous No.12282050]

>>12280621
screencap this.

i guarantee 1000% on my mother and childrens life the loss in freedom and change in lifestyle you will have give up to solve "climate change" will not be worth it. In the beginning it will be sold as finally we are getting this done then they state its actually worse than thought and we have to clamp down more, the creeping regulatory framework will be down right totalitarian with a smile.
but rest assured you will have idiots who will nod and say but we had to do something cuz the crying child and celeb scientist on tv told me so.
ive come to the conclusion the vast majority of humanity are sheep, they exist in every regime doesnt matter if its nazi germany or soviet russia. There is an aspect of society who is always willing to go along with edicts just so as long as they can continue living then convince themselves this actually the best outcome.
I dont want to be in the West when the hammer comes down.

[Anonymous No.12282053]

>>12282050
Anyone who isn't purposefully turning a blind eye out of fear knows this already.

[Anonymous No.12282059]

>>12282053
>Anyone who isn't purposefully turning a blind eye out of fear knows this already.
dting laughing I have been here telling people this since at least 2015 and up until only about 6 months ago every single one of the morons on this board called me schizo and /x/ and you still have donkeys like this >>12281763 in every thread. Don't ever give this boad credit for anything. The people on this board are the thickest you will find anywhere on the internet

[Anonymous No.12282079]

>>12282050
>>12282059
/sci/ are victims of too much chemtrails and fluoride in the water

[Anonymous No.12282089]

>>12282079
peer reviewed source?

[Anonymous No.12282094]

>>12282089
Peer review is part of the globalist agenda to destroy any form of independent thought. Pure propaganda.

[Anonymous No.12282095]

>>12282089
you want a study specifically on the users of /sci/ or what

[Anonymous No.12282097]

>>12282095
>>12282094
it was a joke anons about how thick and retarded the people on this board are. They arent allowed to think something unless it has a stamp of approval by the high priests of scientism

[Anonymous No.12282113]

>>12282031

[Anonymous No.12282254]

/sci/ needs a purge

[Anonymous No.12282269]

>>12282254
from the likes of you who're trying to stifle discussion so as to push their own anti-/pol/ agenda
its interesting that you do not post the same post in this thread >>12261933 which is currently being bumped for close to a whole week as we speak. It's off-topic anti-racist political garbage as well so how come you don't seethe at it? 6 days and no such replies. Another example right here >>/sci/thread/S12174390 - exact same thread, up for 5 whole days until it calmly reached page 10 with no 404 whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.12282280]

>>12282254
I agree, starting with you
>>redit

[Anonymous No.12282290]

>>12280862
>inferno.jpg
prophetic
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/148447887/#q148481025

[Anonymous No.12282345]

>world is full of sheep
>except for me

[Anonymous No.12282358]

>>12282345
>especially you

[Anonymous No.12282364]

>>12280621
I don't even need to know what he said to tell you he's wrong. It's all made up, he has no sources for any of it, and lizardmen were not involved. Same refutation for all of Alex Jones nonsense.

[Anonymous No.12282371]

>>12282364
>I don't even need to know what he said to tell you he's wrong.
this is the mindset of the average coincidence theorist

[Anonymous No.12282386]

>>12282364
I dont even need to read any more posts from you to know for 100 percent fact you are a drooling midwit. In a single post you revealed all your cards that you smooth brained dipshit whose opinion on anything and everything is absolute dogshit

[Anonymous No.12282394]

>>12282364
>source: just trust me bro

[Anonymous No.12282455]

>>12280967
>we dont' know how to string together coherent sentences.

[Anonymous No.12282458]

Yes we definitely should take seriously the lunatic ramblings about how the deep state pedophile sulfur smelling demons are manipulating and controlling the weather with HAARP, chemtrails and ancient alien technology.

[Anonymous No.12282473]

>>12282458
divorced from reality moment

[Anonymous No.12282491]

>>12281574
the eocene was far warmer than now, like +10 degrees C more. but these geological changes like this happen over millions of years allowing for ecosystems to adapt. our climate change is much more rapid

[Anonymous No.12282492]

>>12282458
>he says as the Bidens are literally being exposed as deep state pedophiles just after another major extortion racket ran by a Mossad agent was exposed and the mastermind is murdered in a max security prison with 24 hour surveillance cameras on the inmate
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you friendo?

[Anonymous No.12282495]

>>12282458
do you actually listen to AJ or are you just repeating stuff you've heard about him

[Anonymous No.12282505]

>>12282458
glowing hands typed this

[Anonymous No.12282510]

>>12280639
>Chinas coal burning process was much dirtier than the US's
because the western world is already industrialized. china is going through that exact process, what do you think happens when 100s of millions of poor rice farmers start industrializing?

[Anonymous No.12282520]

>>12282510
there's a reason for everything, it's still true that if we wanted to stop pollution the focus should be on china and not the us

[Anonymous No.12282523]

Oh look

It's the, let's listen to absolute brainlets for their hot take on important issues

MODS!!?!!

[Anonymous No.12282538]

>>12282520
china isnt just going to lower its standard of living or hurt its economy so that western countries with higher CO2 emissions per capita can keep their lifestyle. you need international agreements to do this and if the biggest economy in the world isn't on board it isnt going to work

[Anonymous No.12282544]

>>12282538
One could make the same argument about our standard of living in the US. The correct is that climate change mitigation efforts are futile across the board

[Anonymous No.12282554]

>>12282544
sure, but you can't just say "oh its china's fault" and do nothing if you're actually being sincere about the problem

[Anonymous No.12282557]

>>12282523
mod here, fuck off back to redit you little crying faggot

[Anonymous No.12282558]

>>12282554
Sure I can. It is China's fault and I will do nothing, what am I supposed to do? I don't belong to any world-changing organizations

[Anonymous No.12282567]

>>12282558
i was referring to the current US leadership

[Anonymous No.12282569]

>>12282079
you do know that Europe and East Asia don't fluoridate their water, right? Funny how it's mostly an American thing, yet everyone who knows nothing about it assumes that only retards would have a problem with fluoridation.

[Anonymous No.12282574]

>>12282558
>its those sweatshoppers fault for making those iphones! They should have chosen to starve to death instead of succumbing to the economic event horizon that is rich white people.

[Anonymous No.12282578]

>>12282567
What should they do instead?

[Anonymous No.12282581]

>>12282574
People are motivated by incentives, steaming hot take

[Anonymous No.12282587]

>>12282569
What's your point?

[Anonymous No.12282588]

>>12282523
>mods people are discussing science on a science forum and our shills attempts to derail the thread isn't working. Make them stop!

hahaha die in a fire you dick sucking faggot

[Anonymous No.12282590]

>>12280826
Jesus Christ. This is the most intelligent thing I have read on this shitty forum in ages, and on this topic in particular. Strategic level thinking. You got any links to the approach you are taking? This is interesting.

[Anonymous No.12282627]

>>12282458
>say something objectively proven to be true beyond all doubt mixed with absurd strawman psyops ran by the Masons and CIA
Ah the ole Shermer Sandwich shilling technique. Cheers mate, I too glow in the dark

[Anonymous No.12282636]

The real problem with pollution is overpopulation but fiat currencies require eternal growth in order to sustain itself and the debt.

If we just remained 3 billion people on the planet we could pollute all we wanted and there would be no housing shortages for young people.

[Anonymous No.12282714]

>>12281823
nice strawman. I'm not saying China isn't responsible for what's going on in their country.
We all know how it's turning into an Auth left surveillance state shit hole.
What I'm pointing out is that the situation is a lot more complex than burgers think and that the western world is part of the responsible actors on this issue.

[Anonymous No.12282720]

>>12280826
Fuck the bond math, tell us about the jungle.

[Anonymous No.12282984]

He is always right

[Anonymous No.12283023]

>>12282491
More fake news. The Azolla event that ended the Eocene was remarkably short and the drop in temperatures that set us in the current temperature regime caused one of the worst mass extinction events.

[Anonymous No.12283064]

>>12283023
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.12283098]

>>12283064
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azolla_event
Maybe >>>/toy/ would be a better fit for someone like you.

[Anonymous No.12283216]

>>12283098
>wikipedia
not science or math
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.12283345]

>>12283216
>>>/trash/

[Anonymous No.12283371]

>>12283345
>seething
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.12283695]

>>12280681
This is kinda ture too.
We are delaying the cooling due to the Milankovitch cycle by pumping out so much CO2.
Without the fossil fuel burning of the past 100 years, we'd probably be on our way to another ice age.

[Anonymous No.12283946]

if you think the seas raising by 4 feet is a big deal (it's not), imagine 2-mile high glaciers descending as far south as Chicago like the last Ice Age glaciation, what will that do to the world economy?

Also, has any animal ever gone extinct because it was "too warm"?

[Anonymous No.12285333]

maybe, you will have to wait and see

[Anonymous No.12285336]

>>12281525
>faggots
Why the homophobia?

[Anonymous No.12285340]

>>12285336
how is using a word homophobia?

[Anonymous No.12285429]

>>12283946
>nothing to worry about folks, move along.
Wet bulb temperatures are not a thing.

[Anonymous No.12285480]

>>12282491
>our climate change is much more rapid
For all the established science knows, climate could have been changing just as rapidly back then as it does now. The extremely high resolution of data that exists for the past 150 years is just not available for that time.

[Anonymous No.12286668]

So you’re saying we should be bringing back V8s

[Anonymous No.12286734]

>>12280826
retard

[Anonymous No.12286877]

>>12283023
Is that dog okay?

[Anonymous No.12287720]

>>12280799
>>12280781
They never stopped thriving...except in the west coast

[Anonymous No.12287965]

>>12287720
Well theyre especially thriving here. Thats partially why the wildfires are so bad.

[Anonymous No.12288027]

>>12281081
Fucking great post. Fuck all the pol people getting salty. If you’re enabling something bad you’re obviously a part of the problem.

[Anonymous No.12288034]

>>12282269
Because it’s obviously bait for you /pol/ idiots. Amazingly all it takes to get you morons wound up is to say racism is bad

[Anonymous No.12288114]

>>12282523
mod here I have traced your IP to Langley Virginia please tell the glow niggers not to get involved in threads unless there is CP involved. We only gave you backdoor access to monitor and bust pedophiles not to try and trick and brainwash our users.

Thank you for using 4chan

[Anonymous No.12288120]

>>12280990
too late i already voted for howie

[Anonymous No.12288122]

>>12288027
>Fucking great post

[Anonymous No.12288995]

>>12282050
they already did this for covid lmao

[Anonymous No.12289001]

>>12282345
at least 90% of people don't question anything very deeply so it's not an unreasonable assertion

[Anonymous No.12289515]

>>12280975
>alex jones is a manchild crybaby and you're a fucking idiot if you take even a single word he says seriously
only non-retarded post in this thread

alex is funny to laugh at (I laughed a ton at the recent episode) but if you think anything he says has any basis in reality you need to play in traffic

[Anonymous No.12289522]

>>12289515
Brainlet take. A lot of it is wrong but he also brings up truths you won't hear in the mainstream. For example he was one of the first people popularizing Bohemian Grove, well before that became general knowledge

[Anonymous No.12289584]

>>12281520
>>12281523
Go back to Plebbit

[Anonymous No.12289608]

>>12289522
>Bohemian Grove
So fucking what? A weird ritual that you think is spooky?

[Anonymous No.12289729]

>>12289608
It's an example of something that only Alex Jones and people like him talked about. Bilderberg is another one.
Of course all that stuff was floating around in conspiracy circles for decades, but Alex Jones mostly brings up things from the general conspiracy canon. The point is that it's a refutation of "nothing he says has any basis in reality." Whether or not you think politicians and wealthy businessmen annually burning an effigy in front of a 40 foot stone owl to Walter Cronkite narration is weird is up to you

[Anonymous No.12289744]

>>12282523
>hot take

fuck off

[Anonymous No.12289769]

>>12282050
>screen cap this
>thinks he is saying something original and bold after I have been saying this here since 2015
not hard to say when there is very little risk to do so. Where were you when they were all calling people schizo, /x/ and /pol/ for telling this to the mindless gimps here? You were probably right in the mix doing it with them

[Anonymous No.12289775]

Believing in global warming is the real hot take if you think about it

[Anonymous No.12289780]

>>12289515
I laugh at morons like you and if anyone thinks anything you say is credible in the least they should die in a fire and take you with them. When enough people do the golden age utopia will be here

[Anonymous No.12289847]

>>12280810
>Let's say you got a papercut on your finger and you chop off your hand with a chainsaw. That would actually make it HURT WORSE!!!111!!! Therefore there is nothing you can do about the papercut. Checkmate

[Anonymous No.12289994]

>>12283695
No we're not. The effects of burning all fossil fuels will be long gone by the time the orbital cycles coincide to create glacial cooling. The next glacial period is trend of thousands of years from now regardless of what we do. If anything, we should be saving our CO2 emissions until then.

[Anonymous No.12290003]

>>12280681
>Earth is losing its atmosphere
False.

>that CO2 pumping into the atmosphere is keeping us from experiencing the next ice age.
Idiotic.

[Anonymous No.12290017]

>>12280693
>>effects of raised CO2 levels aren't well understood
>obviously true, considering the Earth has gone through dozens of high-carbon phases and never overheated like Venus
Non sequitur, we understand that too. It's because the cold troposphere keeps water vapor from escaping Earth's atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.12290022]

>>12280826
>Even if you solved the CO2 issue you'd still have passive heating up that will only get worse as we advance further.
Humanity's waste heat is completely insignificant. Don't post if you have no clue what you're taking about.

[Anonymous No.12290032]

>>12282031
>because we arent clueless
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.12290212]

>>12290032

[Anonymous No.12290518]

how come nobody ever talks about the bombs being launched into the ocean for 70 years now
isn't the first time people dismissed or aren't aware of the side effects

[Anonymous No.12290523]

>>12280621
Yes

[Anonymous No.12290609]

>>12280621
Yes, right about everything.

[Anonymous No.12290653]

>>12290022
>Humanity's waste heat is completely insignificant.
Today.

Give it a few centuries of fusion power, power beaming and solar redirection.

And we'll probably still not have a problem because the global warming meme is a retarded monkey just wanting to get more grant bananas.

[Anonymous No.12290660]

>>12280639
>Chinas coal burning process was much dirtier than the US's.

US and china are about equal. no developed country should be burning coal anyway

[Anonymous No.12290682]

So is carbon good for the atmosphere?

[Anonymous No.12290702]

>>12290682
Yes. makes the plants grow.

[Anonymous No.12290717]

>climate rebounds from a cooling periods that ended 1850 (ever saw a temp graph that started before 1850? of course not)
>CLIMATE CHANGE!!!111
>used to put a tax on air to steal money from the lower and middle class and move it to the upper class
>blame the "climate change" on oil while we dont even really understand where the fuck it comes from.

[Anonymous No.12290791]

>>12290717
World Economic Forum Openly Admits Communist Agenda 2030
https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/world-economic-forum-openly-admits-communist-agenda-2030_5bVHrTpeZH22xne.html

[Anonymous No.12290849]

>>12290660
If you actually watched the podcast this thread is about before commenting you would already know US coal plants release zero carbon emissions.

Here is the death strike that kills all climate change fags. If they really wanted to get rid of fossil fuels they have had the technology since at least the Third Reich. The Germans invented UFO's using ancient Vedic knowledge of the esoteric sciences (foo fighters).
Applications Of The Torus – Anti Gravity
https://esotericawakening.com/applications-of-the-torus-anti-gravity

This technology is also applicable to free energy, research nitonol memory metal and vortex energy. Hell just jewgle free energy and surf around there are countless ways to get off of fossil fuels if there was the will.

https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/randy-powell-explains-the-vortex_JWMOZVWKXrhhZXH.html

Then research what happened to Tesla and his tech after he died and anyone who tries to reveal these secrets to the public.

Inventor Of ‘Water-Powered Car’ Died Screaming ‘They Poisoned Me’
https://www.unilad.co.uk/life/inventor-of-water-powered-car-died-screaming-they-poisoned-me/

If they really gave a fuck about carbon and fossil fuels they have had the tech to get rid of it all for at least 100 years. It is just the wolf in sheep's clothing, just as this video is >>12290791

It is the 1000's of years old Jewish plot to enslave the world under communism that is outlined in detail in their own "holy books" and countless other books written by people that know what they are doing, don't be fooled like a donkey. This is how a snare works, you lay the bait and wait for your prey to take it which springs the trap. They will use your emotions and good intentions against you, they are experts at this shit here don't doubt it for a second. I have been coming here a long time trying to show you guys what's going on because I love you little faggots and dont want you to destroy your life and future.

[Anonymous No.12290900]

>>12290849
Don't ever be confused about it these are ruthless individuals that will take everything from you and laugh about it. There are psychopaths, serial killers. You can't even process what they think or how they think. Imagine if Jeffery Daumer controlled the world with a cult of his acolytes that have always kept their true nature and intentions secret. These are literal baby fuckers and killers. Don't ever let your guard down fro a second because they will strike with lightning speed to destroy you and anyone else that gets in their way. Anyhow I am drunk ask questions if you want but don't think you know anything about this world, because you don't.

t. bodhi mantra

[Anonymous No.12290925]

>>12290653
maybe humanity problem is actually one of heat dissipation not pollution. Pollution is output of procressing. Things that result in excess co2 is merely a byproduct of wasteful power dissipation.

that said, would we worry about pollution if the most toxic shit was produced on say Venus and shipped to earth.

[Anonymous No.12291035]

>>12290900
>>12290849
They are the prey and we are the predators. Cart and mouse. Why are you telling them this? You will disrupt the natural order. Best to leave them with their delusions of control and safety. It is all they have. If you take it from them they will only cause problems. They are too stupid and full of ego to be anything else, you already know this bodhi. Why do you show them what is behind the veil? They would destroy you if they got the chance. I just don't understand you baka

[Anonymous No.12291060]

>>12280621
>populism
audience whispered quietly.

[Anonymous No.12291525]

>>12290653
Nope, still irrelevant. You are retarded.

[Anonymous No.12291534]

>>12280657
>using emotional nonsense arguments
you're just proving that alex jones is more rational than you, well done retard

[Anonymous No.12292646]

>>12282714
>situation is a lot more complex than burgers think
That is merely generic gunk trying to absolve the Chinese from their pollution problems and trying to externalise their cost to the West.

Your argument is morally bankrupt.

[Anonymous No.12294433]

>>12280621
lol fat and white what a shit combo

[Anonymous No.12294439]

>>12290003
whoa that settles it then

[Anonymous No.12294803]

>>12281081
He's talking about assigning moral blame for climate change, not the practical solution to it

[Anonymous No.12294808]

>>12280697
>they get the money, we get the blame
fuck off, tariff their shit then

[Anonymous No.12294812]

>>12281823
He could always use some similar sophistry to connect china's massive pollution to the west as long as the two economies are connected at all.

[Anonymous No.12294963]

>>12280621
No, excessive CO2 doesn't help plants grow unless it is a limiting factor. The plants in the desert don't need more sunshine, the plants in the rainforest don't need more water, the trees aren't struggling for CO2, and will adjust the amount of stomata open based on how much CO2 they need, increasing CO2 just makes them close their stomata .

[Anonymous No.12295016]

>>12280810

>selling them ores
>not collapsing our economy

Ausfag here, it's this kind of greedy, smooth-brained, short-sighted thinking from our leaders and decision makers which not only sells us out of our strategic reserves for pennies on the dollar, but also has our prosperity structured on a ticking time bomb.

We should not only be reducing the rate at which we extract minerals, what we still do mine should be run through domestic manufacturing and processing to add value to it, and increase our autonomy and economic complexity. With some of the worlds strongest labs and universities, and an army of students, we're in a great position to do so efficiently and sustainably with advanced manufacturing.

Unfortunately our government is controlled by a mixture of US, British and Chinese interests, and even if we miraculously shed ourselves of them we'd be coup'd and have them re-imposed upon us.

[Anonymous No.12295023]

>>12280681
No, his position was that excess carbon dioxide is immediately absorbed by plants and fossil fuels were placed by god to keep carbon based life going.

[Anonymous No.12295093]

>>12280621
No, Alex Jones is wrong about everything.

[Anonymous No.12295101]

>>12286668
Reject modernity, embrace tradition. Bring back 640x480 and V8-s

[Anonymous No.12296445]

>>12280657
>but even if your neighbor killed 10 kittens last week and you only killed 2, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't reduce your number of kittens killed
Except the neighbor has been supporting political campaigns whose platform is making you kill less kittens while they continue to kill 10 per week and you have to subsidize their transition to kill slightly fewer cats, and even if they continue to kill 10 kittens per week, there's no penalty.

[Anonymous No.12296568]

>>12294963
>increasing CO2 just makes them close their stomata .
Which helps them in dryer climates.
However some areas will be getting even dryer due to climate change.

[Anonymous No.12296595]

>>12281574
This is what someone who doesn't read any scientific literature sounds like

[Anonymous No.12296599]

>>12281763
Shitposters. Sleepy janitors. The onslaught of /pol/ tards. Alex is an idiot and a con-man, and delusional. Joe Rogan is an idiot. Get them together and you make an idiot sandwich, it tastes and smells like shit. You toss this shit on /sci/ because that's a board targeted for colonization by /pol/tards. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.12296709]

>>12296599
>targeted for colonization
you are taking the internet too seriously

[Anonymous No.12297957]

>>12282627
>Federal authorities disrupt, track, and bait cultish paranoid conspiritard groups and individuals into exposing their retarded notions and retarded plans.
Who knew? I would say good for them if not for the degree to which their techniques increase the cancerous stupidity they're purported to decrease. Yet the fact remains that pop figures like Jones, and trolls backed by Asian despots, such as Putin, are a hundred times more cancerous, and the primary reason this slum of a website, whose absentee landlord deserves a good raping on national television by Frontline or some other such entity. It does not follow, of course, that a broken clock like Jones is wrong all of the time. It does follow that his devotees are incompetent at research and inductive reasoning from it.

[Anonymous No.12297971]

>>12280621
Alex Jones is a snake oil salesman. Literally nothing that comes out of his mouth belongs on /sci/.