Getting girls as an engineer/scientist

[Anonymous No.12275529]

Is being an engineer or scientist enough money to get a girl?

Studying engineering in university since I want to make school shit, but I don't know how I'll be money wise to get a girl.

[Anonymous No.12275603]

If you hoping to get rich in science or engineer to get a girl you already lost. Whatever girl you lure in will leave you for a garbage man or someone else who is not a looser with no confidence.

[Anonymous No.12275621]

>>12275603
It's just a bonus. I'm already good looking and funny.

[Mortex No.12275663]

What kind of girl ?

A TGirl is OK ?

[Anonymous No.12275673]

>>12275621
Thinking your good looking doesn't really mean anything if nobody else does
Thinking your funny doesn't really mean anything if nobody else does.

If you had actual redeeming qualities or were interesting or had social skills then you wouldn't have this delusion that you need money to get a woman. The fact you don't even know how to get money in the first place leads me to believe that you're probably not very interesting or have much to offer. I think you need confidence in yourself and not fake confidence.

[Anonymous No.12275684]

>>12275529

No, not even close, blackpill is the only option

[Anonymous No.12275780]

>>12275673
This guys being an asshole but hes right. Women dont care about your money really, it's a lie. If you couldn't pull them without money, you won't be able to with it basically. Any woman that decides she wants you based solely on your money is not someone you want to be with anyway.

[Anonymous No.12275784]

Money is just a bare minimum requirement. Personality is the most important thing (as it should be).

[Anonymous No.12275792]

>>12275529
Im going to tell you the truth. Begin Phraks Greyskull LP weightlifting program. Get 100 g of protein a day at least. Probably get a haircut and shave.
Now go and put yourself in situations where you will interact with women regularly and organically.
Dont try to fill every silence. Roll up your sleeves. If youre not uncomfortable at first then youre not doing it right. Cold approachs can work but its hard not to freak people out nowadays.
After shes laughed at the dumb shit you say hit her with the ol 'I swear i feel like we went to prom in another life.' or something, i dont know how that line works but it always does.
When she asks you who youre texting say its your friend Sam.

Have and then break up with an imaginary gf and say its because you didnt feel the fire anymore.
Ask her if she wants to watch Toy Story 3 and produce an 8ball.
Boom. Never fails.

[Anonymous No.12275808]

>>12275780
incel and MGTOW culture has created a generation of young men who are insecure and automatically lower themselves as men in social situations, they call other men master names like "chads" and have a hard time understand basic social skills, they get most of their ideals about women from things like the media or internet or literature made by men who never really figured it out.

[Anonymous No.12275819]

>>12275684
what is blackpill
teach me

[Anonymous No.12275846]

There will be plenty of single mothers for you to take care of anon

[Anonymous No.12275854]

>>12275529
just take an intro to biology/physiology class and talk to girls there

[Anonymous No.12275874]

>>12275529
You won't get the type of women you would want. You're gonna be attractive to single mothers and gold-digging whores who won't give you any sex because you're not Chad

[Anonymous No.12275887]

>>12275792
>When she asks you who youre texting say its your friend Sam.
lmao ambiguity can make women do the most insane shit

[El Arcón No.12275891]

Being recognized as the best of your kind of scientist or engineer in the world ought to be sufficient.

[Anonymous No.12275917]

>>12275529
>enough money to get a girl
If you think money is how you get the good one's you're ngmi desu

[Anonymous No.12275932]

You'll never get the woman you want. You can aim for 2-3 levels below your looksmatch however and with some luck you'll be successful. If you are a 3-4 it's pretty much over for you.

>>12275917

Money is the most important part, because having money means you must have at least some redeeming quality. It is also a direct measure of your power and protection against hardship.

[Anonymous No.12275949]

>>12275529
you're looking at it the wrong way, don't believe all the bullshit you've been taught. there are women you can get who will bring you money in exchange for penis. there are undesirable female children of wealthy men all over the place who are dying to meet you. the most attractive part of a woman is often her father's wallet. find those women, their fathers will be so grateful for your service that they'll heap money on you faster than you know how to deal with it. then later on you can use the money to fuck hot ladies at the country club, there might even be a european au pair girl or two in your future if you have kids with the hideous golden hambeast you marry.

[Anonymous No.12275957]

>>12275932
Looks and your status in the social hierarchy are most important. The only reason why money helps is because it serves as a heuristic for your social status

[Anonymous No.12276030]

>>12275819
No anon youll be sad.

[Anonymous No.12276041]

>>12275874
Whoa nelly. Im not Chad and Ive been a poor drug addict most of my life. Banged tons of girls.

[Anonymous No.12276079]

going into stem to get money to get girls is fucking dumb.
getting girls is about humor and confidence (witch is not the same as arrogance), and also knowing what you are looking for. and being an interesting and preferably decent person. develope some hobbies, do some self reflection, figure out what you want from a partner, and understand that a partner is a person, not a fucktoy. (this does not mean sex is not an important part of a realtionship, it just means taht there is a whole person atatched to that vagina). Beyond taht is just about socialising, and finding someon who is passionat about the same things you are. whatever that may be.
if you go into stem, do that beacause you are interested in stem. and if thats your passion maybe you will find a girl who is passionate about the same field.
It is true some fileds have mor girls, if yours doesent, find a hobby jou genuinely enjoye, that is popular with girls too.

[Anonymous No.12276118]

>>12275808
I know, I'm one of them basically and am just now starting to figure things out.

[Anonymous No.12276124]

>>12275957
This guy knows. I wish I knew this sooner.

[Anonymous No.12276171]

>>12276124
looks are not nearly as important.
you can be 10/10 but autistic and broke.

social skills,money and iq

social status is a state and not really somethíng you can train

[Anonymous No.12276285]

>>12275949
Where to find plainface rich christmas cakes? I would love to marry into money

[Anonymous No.12277008]

If money doesn't get you women then explain all those rich celebs and politicians whatnot with 20 gorillion net worths

certainly they're not using that money for themselves, you can get pretty much whatever the hell you want at even 60k/year

[Anonymous No.12277013]

>>12275529
Pickup artistry + Social skillz
If you talk to enough women + know the magic words to say to get into their pants it kinda works

Sure you'll need to talk to like 100 women before it works and many of them will outright reject you but it still works.

[Anonymous No.12277487]

>>12275529
Maybe software engineering

[Anonymous No.12277669]

>>12275621
You're going to be fine dude.
I know anyone can say anything on the internet but I'm poor and fucked a woman worth millions purely through hitting it off with her. I know it sounds cliche but literally just don't be intimidated by women and the problem of money is way smaller.

[Anonymous No.12278037]

>>12277008
to be a rich celebrity you need to be good looking and charismatic in the first place, these qualities are attractive

[Anonymous No.12278050]

>>12275808
Such is the harsh reality for young men today.

[Anonymous No.12278715]

>>12278037
Explain Harvey Weinstein

[Anonymous No.12278805]

>>12275673
>>12275780
This is dumb. Money correlates with your social status, and girls are attracted to that. How many models do you see dating garbage collectors?
>b-b-but you dont want girl like that
All of them are like that, it doesnt even happen on concious level mostly

[Anonymous No.12279271]

>>12275529
>Is being an engineer or scientist enough money to get a girl?
If you're using money to bait a girl, you didn't get the girl she got your money in exchange for sexual services.

[Anonymous No.12279278]

>>12278805
One of my professors claimed to be some master pickup artist who dated models all the time. His secret was that you just had to be confident in yourself and be an asshole. The guy makes like 60k/yr at best.

Then again, so he claims.

[Anonymous No.12279431]

Lol it's not hard to get a girlfriend, just stop being an autistic piece of shit

[Anonymous No.12279440]

>>12279431
Also I got a girlfriend while I was literally homeless. If your only concern is making money, you won't attract a girlfriend, you'll attract a prostitute

[Anonymous No.12279462]

>>12275529
The only people that think it's hard to get girls are the people who quit after trying to date for two weeks.

[Anonymous No.12279473]

>>12275529
Also money doesn't mean shit. Girls will fuck borderline homeless people if they like them enough.

[Anonymous No.12279479]

>>12279473
OK go be homeless then lol

[Anonymous No.12279482]

>>12279479
>>12279440

[Anonymous No.12279496]

>>12279278
Having fancy title helps your status as well. Not saying money is the only thing that matters but to say that it doesnt matter is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.12279498]

>>12279479
>Missing the point this hard

[Anonymous No.12279512]

>>12279496
He has no fancy title and taught at community college. The point is anyone can get laid as long as you have the personality and talk to enough women. Most people here talk to one woman and cry when their ass gets rejected on 1st try.

[Anonymous No.12279524]

>>12275792
>'I swear i feel like we went to prom in another life.'
I'm not saying that you faggot.

[Anonymous No.12279564]

>>12275529
You don’t

[Anonymous No.12279588]

>>12275663
>namefag
>tranny

[Anonymous No.12279604]

>>12275780
>Women dont care about your money
sounds like bs
>Any woman that decides she wants you based solely on your money is not someone you want to be with anyway.
ahh that makes more sense, it was just a cope
>>12279278
>be an asshole
this is only understood in the warped perception of low status men, used to groveling for female attention.

[Anonymous No.12279646]

>>12279604
>low status men,
Found the incel.
There's no such thing as low vs high status men when it comes to getting just a woman.
You're either a "real" man or not. You either adhere to standards of what's considered a man, in terms of sex and dating or you don't.

A lot of mentally ill men, especially the socially anxious type, don't fall into the norm of what's considered a real man for obvious reasons. So they don't get anywhere with women.
Basically, fix your mental illness, stop caring about what people think and let your mind adapt as you do more things that are considered normal for a man to do.

Low vs high status only matters when you're looking at shit like marriage, especially in other societies.

This all sounds old fashioned and sexist, but it's true. You still live in a very gendered society, so act like a real man and don't expect women to make the first women, they rarely ever do so.

But since you're an incel, who's never even been or talked to women, you'll dismay all of this to justify your worldview which gives you some sense of satisfaction of being right as to why you're alone.

[Anonymous No.12279692]

>>12279646
that's a lot of cope for someone you think is an incel.
>>12279278
>master pickup artist
anyone who says cringe like this, bragging about picking up girls to his students, is pathetically insecure.

Do not take the advice like from these coping losers, most of the they have no idea what they are talking about.

[Anonymous No.12279737]

seriously. id bet most of the people here have never had a gf. look at all of you discussing techniques and tactics like dating is a fucking videogame. just go out ther, and talk to people. youll find someone with whom you get on well. if you have chemistry with someon, ask them out. hve coffe, or some shit. thats realy all ther is to it.

[Anonymous No.12279768]

>>12279692
>hurr durr cope
Typical incel jargon.

[Anonymous No.12279769]

>>12279737
>tactics like dating
it is a science board, no wonder the evolutionary perspective is going to be used and sound like some-sort of systematic analysis of human mating.

>>12275529
>Is being an engineer or scientist enough money to get a girl?
you'll be better then fine anon, these are good career paths

[Anonymous No.12279879]

>>12279769
i supose thats fair. it just seems kind of counter productive. like the incel and pickup artist things. That way of thinking is a hinderance. Realy all you need is a place where you meet girls, and then to talk to them. to find someone you get along with. there isnt some big secret, or a trick.
And it will be hard to find someone you get along with if you are a scumy asshole

[Anonymous No.12279912]

>>12275529
Social norms change, and correlates to a women's preference for a male. If you want to think in shallow terms.

[Anonymous No.12279932]

>>12275529
Hey man,

It's actually negative points in my opinion. Girls I'd say actually getting a girl is like 50% attraction and 49% social opportunity and 1% other sprinkled shit (like money). This is why you see rich housewives fuck their hot latin poolboys.

Engineers are a special breed, and while there definitely are chad engineers, most of them are awkward unfit white/asian/indian guys, and they typically either marry really young, or are the incel type.

t. actual engineer.

However, I'm also going to say that I'm coming up on 30, and if you do a job you hate it will fuck with you. For instance, I worked my ass off for my degree. I moved out of a low paying engineering job that was doing cool shit (building satellites) to a high paying with good benefits more office type setting and I miss my engineering work all the time. I have zero job satisfaction here but it is a hell of a lot more secure at keeping food over our heads and a roof over the table.

Find a balance, son. Do something you enjoy doing, not because you think it will get you pussy. If you want to do that, just lift weights and become friends with dudebros.

[Anonymous No.12279933]

>>12279737
>>12279879
There are technique and attributes to get a girl for sure, in the same way there are techniques for being a good salesman. But being told techniques doesn't matter unless you practice.

Of course, PuA crap is mostly bullshit. Negging doesn't work for example.
>>12279769
Evolutionary perspective to explain psycho-social phenomenon is nonsense considering social norms have changed so much in just the last century for it to be due to any genetic change.

[Anonymous No.12279951]

>>12279933
i can believe that. i supose thats the sort of thing one learns just by trial and error. i wonder if its posible to learn though. im finding it hard to imagne having a nice relaxed conversation with a girl, wilst constatntly thinking abot what tactic i should be using. is it posible to act confident instead of just being confident?

[Anonymous No.12279959]

>>12279951
The girl will be able to smell the creepiness on you if you're constantly thinking about tactics to get in her pants instead of treating her like a human

[Anonymous No.12279962]

>>12275529
Being an engineer/scientist increases the amount of money you would need to get a girl because that shit dries up pussy. So, no.

[Anonymous No.12279968]

>>12279278
Being an asshole doesn't get you women, women don't like men because they are assholes. Insecure losers THINK women like men for being assholes, because they lack the trait those men have. What women actually find attractive, is a guy who is confident enough that he doesn't care if she likes him or not. "Master" pickup artists just prey on drunk women and sluts.

[Anonymous No.12279970]

>>12279431
Jokes on you, I'm an autistic piece of shit AND have a girlfriend

[Anonymous No.12279986]

>>12279959
thats my point. thats why i think most of this advice is bullshit. just go outside, talk to girls, and see what they respond positively and negatively to. just learn how to socialise, by practicing. develope a sense of humor. and if you feel you arent confident enough, better yourself a bit. get a hobby. learn an instrument or paint or cook or some shit. for whatever reason being a decent artist and a good cook has benn great for me. girls like that shit.

[Anonymous No.12280000]

We're all gonna make it lads
The numerals never lie

[Anonymous No.12280010]

>>12279933
Unless you believe in a divine creator, then all of our instincts are adapted behaviors. The evolutionary perspective is how everything we think and feel came into being, evolved from the time we were a single cell organism. It is using what we know about natural selection and the time of our evolution to speculate about the innate underlying instincts we have, then asking how those instincts will manifest in the modern age. Both for men and women.

It will always be relevant.

[Anonymous No.12280014]

>>12279951
>is it posible to act confident instead of just being confident?
yeah, but the latter is definitely better. Or even better is to have some reasons to be confident.

[Anonymous No.12280015]

>>12280000
T-thanks

[Anonymous No.12280030]

>>12280010
not necesseraly. tha 4 fundamental forces are also relevant, but they ar so distant, you cant speculate on how she will respond to your text based on them. im being hyperbolic, but you get where im going.
evolution, neurology are relevant, and so is human ethology, but they are too far removed. the field that examines human beahvior is psychology.

[Anonymous No.12280039]

>>12279986
Agreed

[Anonymous No.12280046]

>>12280014
yep. i didnt have a lot of success with girls until i had a bunch of thing i was proud of and was pretty happy with my life. its a bit of a shitty cycle. if you are lonly, youl think you are worthless and continue to be lonly etc.

[Anonymous No.12280049]

>>12280030
> they are too far removed
the reason you want to have sex with a women or man in the first place is because of your instinct to.

[Anonymous No.12280083]

>>12280000
Seriously though, where are these mediocre rich bitches I can use the fact I am a second generation collegiate athlete stemfag to get?

[Anonymous No.12280086]

>>12280049
that is true. my point is there are quite a few steps between getting a boner, and a romatic realtionship

[Anonymous No.12280118]

What parallel universe do you live in where money doesn’t get women? Why become rich in the first place?

[Anonymous No.12280398]

>>12275529

Depending on where you live as an engineer you could easily buy escorts. If you’re looking for something meaningful and long term. I can’t help you there as I am self diagnosed narcissist/socio path.

[Anonymous No.12280584]

>>12279769
>>12279737
Why wouldnt evolutionary perspective be important in reproduction, the second strongest instinct after survival?

There is a set of rules, the thing is most people run them unconsciously. Its too large and complex to try to use them while communicating, since you cant evaluate each action according to game theory and evopsych. But that doesnt mean you cant derive some general principles. Im tired of people acting like relationships somehow dont comply to rules of nature.

Also yes, I have tons of sex, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.12280627]

>>12280584
>Why wouldn't evolutionary perspective be important in reproduction
depends if it suggest things that I like versus things that I don't like. I have concluded the latter therefore human nature is irrelevant to my analysis

[Anonymous No.12280633]

>>12280627
>irrelevant
excuse me, I meant to say, it is too far removed.

[Anonymous No.12280649]

>>12280627
Thats not very scientific of you

[Anonymous No.12282645]

>>12275819
In condensed form it's the idea that only looks matter, that your whole life is defined by your genes and circumstances of your birth

[Anonymous No.12284348]

>>12279768
>Typical incel jargon.
why do you hate these people. The less fortunate have the same desire to have a family in our society as anyone else. If you want to disagree, bring an actual science based argument as to why they shouldn't, not just your hatred of them

[Anonymous No.12284892]

Hey this is /sci/ I think you want to try advice Anon

[Anonymous No.12284901]

>>12284348
They just hate ugly people but have to come up with some way to demonize them so they can justify the hate to themselves.

[Anonymous No.12285078]

>>12275529
>>12276079
>>12276171
>>12277487
>>12278805
>going into stem to get money to get girls is fucking dumb.
Yeah search this guy Grant Ridder. Midwest techie transplant to SF, he got enough STEM bux and married a gorl... but then he had a few issues with other gorls and is spending 15+ years in federal prison now...

[Anonymous No.12285095]

>>12275529
Its a solid career to get a girl when you're 30 or so. She may have a kid already, but you'll get to raise it.
Get fit while you're at it and grab a cool hobby or two if you want a fresh one sooner.

[Anonymous No.12286154]

>>12276041
When he says Chad he means that gold diggers aren’t attracted to their betabux account.

[Anonymous No.12286217]

>>12275529
Betabuxxing is pointless. Any girl thats settles for you is only in it for the money and will look elsewhere for sex

[Anonymous No.12286218]

>>12275529
1) You are supposed to choose career paths that suit your interests, not because of fucking money. I'm pursuing Mech Eng because I want to build on my depth of knowledge and applications to manufacturing processes in precision machining.
2) It's a fucking number game, you will fail. And a lot. But that isn't an excuse for you to try, eventually you'll find links.
3) Take care of yourself. A lot of fucking STEM nerds are anti-social and stay clear of the gym to their own detriment, and that's the current perception of them today in women. Stand out, be smart AND strong. The true pill is /sci/+/fit/+/lit/.

Don't worry about fucking planning and calculations like all other /sci/fags here, sometimes the only way of knowing is doing, EXPERIMENTING.

Ask out some girls, analyze your decisions and their reactions, and come back to us.

[Anonymous No.12286252]

>>12275792
Bulkfag facelet cope. Take anabolic steroids and get real muscle over a few years. Not fake shit and bulking. I'd rather be 150 and cut and all muscle than 190 bulk fag with fake muscles and high body fat %.

[Anonymous No.12287533]

>>12285078

How is this relevant? That moron went to prison for cp.

[Anonymous No.12288315]

>>12286218
I don't get how I'm suppose to do /sci/+/fit/+/lit/ though, I'm on campus pretty much every day of the week and when I'm not on campus I'm in my room studying till I go to bed, how am I suppose to find the time to read and go to the gym?

[Anonymous No.12288331]

>>12275529
Christ, OP... You know there are worthless unemployed drunks out there who beat their hot wives, right? They're everywhere, too. You don't need to be funny, good looking, employed, or smart to get a girl. You hang out around enough people, and it will just happen. Your problem is your lack of socializing. Join the local bike or jogging club, join a bible study group, volunteer somewhere, do anything

[Anonymous No.12288338]

>>12275529
As an engineer, I tend to set up elaborate rube goldberg machines to capture unwitting females. Works like a charm.

[Anonymous No.12288366]

>>12288315
I think the /sci/+/fit/ pill is reasonable. Working has diminishing returns and you gotta take a break so you should make that break the gym. Especially since gym helps slow down cognitive decline a bit. but now you also have to pull whatever this guy does
>>12288331
And socialize, bible group, yoga or whatever women do. Frankly its a lot of work and most guys can’t pull it off especially if you’re say in gradschool. At least a few guys I know can’t manage that. Is it cowardly to think that sometimes in life you just gotta live with no gf until you can go through the grind, ask like 100 girls or whatever it takes to get a date etc?

[Anonymous No.12288374]

>>12275673
girls will dump you if you don’t earn enough money

that’s the real life lesson

[Anonymous No.12290554]

>>12288374
cope

[Anonymous No.12290556]

>>12290554
>copeposting

[Anonymous No.12290985]

>>12275529
Which one?