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Does this disprove the theory that non-white countries (except for asians) are poor beacuse they are genetically inferior?

>> No.12262234

Have you read it?

Also, Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies is a good book to discuss this as well.

>> No.12262317

>>12262211
Race realism threads belong on pol. Also your on a mongolian basket weaving forum dedicated to the topic of science and math and asking if racial purity makes people more successful while ignoring the state of Alabama and that you can't group celts,slavs,germans,Greek,Anglo and italian as one single race. You ask me if non "white" nations are prone to being poorer while china colonized the world and india industrialized faster than the west could in it's current state

>> No.12262476

>>12262317
>Race realism belongs on /pol/
Huh? Not at all.
It's literally genetics, phenotypes, and haploid groups. All scientific topics.
>>12262234
>Also, Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies is a good book to discuss this as well.
I heard this book was flawed in its conclusions.

>> No.12262982

>>12262476
>I heard this book was flawed in its conclusions.
In a way. The book falsely claims that Africa never had agriculture prior to colonization.

>> No.12262986

>>12262211
No. The book is about institutions.

>> No.12262989

>>12262476
>while ignoring the state of Alabama and that you can't group celts,slavs,germans,Greek,Anglo and italian as one single race. You ask me if non "white" nations are prone to being poorer while china colonized the world and india industrialized faster than the west could in it's current state

You ignored their central point, that racial science is pseudoscience and that history disproves any argument for genetic sources of group, racialized inequality. Europe was 100% the world's shitty backwater until the Early Modern period. You can debate what caused that to change and Europe instead to become the world's slavemaster, but genetics cannot be to credit for Europe's power or to blame for its wickedness.

>> No.12262995

>>12262476
>All scientific topics
That is not what race is, there is no such scientific concept of "genetically inferiority".

>> No.12263250 [DELETED] 

>>12262317
race realism =/= white supremacism
I just hate overwhelming majority of niggers and so do most people (what they say is another thing)

>> No.12263267

>>12262211
Why are Asian countries inferior?
Only Japan and south Korea do well

>> No.12263301

>>12262476
>>I heard this book was flawed
>poltards got their nuts in a twist
big surprise, ignore them and read it yourself
https://youtu.be/vR5KBTqq9QY?t=30m

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>> No.12263316

>>12263301
tl;dw
https://youtu.be/vR5KBTqq9QY?t=46m40s

>> No.12263335

>>12262234
This book is a fucking joke that been debunked on almost every single point, many points such as availability of grains and calories are just straight up bullshit that he didn't other to research or just ied and made shit up about.

>hurt u can't domesticated zebra it's literally impossible bro
>white man
>hm let's give this a go
>tames zebra to useful work animals almost immediately

>hurr the herd animals in the rest of world were to dangerous and impossible to tame and farm
>meanwhile in europe
>fucking aurochs, yeah so docile and easy to tame bro

>jared diamond
>oh he is Jewish wow what a surprise

Conclusion, niggers are shit and stupid, only east Asians have any claim to being able to build a proper functional civilisation. White people conquered the globe with primitive muskets, wooden boats and the sextant, if you think any other race could have done this you are an imbecile.

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>>12262211
"You can have it for free"
Imagine the horror

>> No.12263349

>>12262995
>there is no such scientific concept of "genetically inferiority"

Strawman. There are certain characteristics that different ethnic groups express though their genetics at which aspects they are clearly naturally superior at. I'm sure you are happy to admit that Africans are great at certain types of sports yet will seethe over the same type of data showing that Europeans and Asians are more intelligent than Africans indicating you don't believe in the scientific method and will cope, seethe and stretch shit to suit your political position.

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>> No.12263360

>>12263349
There is more genetic various within "races" than between them.

Being adapted to a particular task doesn't make them genetically inferior, it makes them specialized, it easy to measure sports performance as it is inherently quantified for the purpose of direct competition, but it is nearly impossible to actually measure overall intelligence and the most made up IQ quantification standards are constantly changing and provide temporary results that may change if you retake the test.

>> No.12263368

>>12263360
>There is more genetic various within "races" than between them.

An extremely tired, much debunked talking point. Just because there is a genetic varience in random junk dna means exactly fuck all when there are clearly observable and documentable traits defined across ethnic lines. If your talking point was correct then every race would just be a random hodgepodge of crazily different looking people which is demonstrably not the case.

>IQ doesn't exist bro

If you want to throw IQ, the most strongly correlated measurement of success and intelligence into the bin then you can go right ahead and throw the rest of the field of psychology into the bin because everything else in that field is WAY more sketchy then IQ. The raven progressive matrice is a standard test that has been used for ages and provides consistent results, if you want to argue that niggers can't understand patterns and shapes then that's just fine.

>> No.12263378

>>12263335
>wall-of-text of unsubstantiated bs
take your meds

>> No.12263384

>>12263378
>unsubstantiated bs

Please tell me what part is unsubstantiated and I will freely provide you with a link, although it would be pretty simple to search any of it. Unlike that kikes book where he just spews bullshit.

>> No.12263389

>>12263368
>Just because there is a genetic varience in random junk dna
Its not just in random junk DNA, the prevalence of various diseases and things like autism is mostly pretty similar in various ethnic groups and all races are likely to have abominations and a random hodgepodge of variety that can easily be seen by looking through photos of developmentally delayed people of all races.

> throw the rest of the field of psychology into the bin because everything else in that field is WAY more sketchy then IQ.
Psychology is like practicing magic, you can find tricks that will work on certain groups who have been conditioned in certain ways for certain periods of times, but when the times change all the tricks tend to work less effectively.

Psychometrics like IQ are inherently more softly quantified and variable than point counting in sports.

> The raven progressive matrice
Not even the most common IQ test and will produce vastly different IQ results than other tests because psychology has reproducibility problems and always has going back to the ancient greeks.

>> No.12263417

>>12263368
>The raven progressive matrice
Kind of funny your go to IQ test is the one that is proven to be biased in favor of autism and aspergers.

>> No.12263422

>>12263384
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=where+to+buy+meds

>> No.12263444

>>12262211
African and African majority nations just happen not to develop "much inclusive institutions" That the writers go on, and on, and on and on about

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>>12262211

>> No.12263653

>>12263378
https://youtu.be/8KgW4LB8lqM

This is a rather thorough take down of it.

>> No.12263658

>>12263653
>tiger king proves they are good pets
fuck off retard

>> No.12263770

>>12263360
>There is more genetic various within "races" than between them.
This makes no topological sense I have no idea why people keep saying this.

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>>12262989
>Europe was 100% the world's shitty backwater until the Early Modern period.

Why do you "people" lie about things that are proven wrong in a millisecond google search?

>> No.12263844

>>12262989
>Racial science is pseudoscience
Cringe and kikepilled
>Europe was 100% the world's shitty backwater until the Early Modern period.
Only from the start of the Christian period until the Renaissance.

>> No.12263909

>>12262476
>and haploid groups
Dunning-Kruger full force

>> No.12263912

>>12262989
>Europe was 100% the world's shitty backwater
You know how I know you aren't white?

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>>12262317
>you can't group celts,slavs,germans,Greek,Anglo and italian as one single race

You actually can, they all cluster under Caucasian genetic cluster. This does not mean there cannot be any intra-racial genetic neural differences as well..

>> No.12263968

>>12263360
>There is more genetic various within "races" than between them.

Lewontin's fallacy is a fallacy. Just because distributions overlap does not mean they are not real.

>> No.12263971

>>12263389
>prevalence of various diseases and things like autism is mostly pretty similar in various ethnic groups

Nope, as a rule is tends to differ by around 2 standard deviations. Same as IQ.

>> No.12263974

>>12263916
https://youtu.be/tYSVW8nszo4?t=15s

>> No.12264041

>>12262317
alabama is largely black

>> No.12264043

>>12263360
>more genetic various within "races" than between them
This statement starts with the presumption that no one can define what a race is in terms of genetic difference, then ends knowing what a race is and is certain that it doesn't exist.

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