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/sfg/ - Space Flight General Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:25:55 2020 No.12248813 [Reply] [Original]

SN8 static fire edition

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:30:00 2020 No.12248824 "people are gonna ride that one day"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:32:39 2020 No.12248829 >>12248823 what is the oldest sfg meme?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:38:34 2020 No.12248839 >>12248829 Probably something about scrapyard rockets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:53:25 2020 No.12248856 >>12248813 >>12248820 Was that the static fire test? I don't stay up and watch the stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:55:33 2020 No.12248859 >>12248829 pisslocks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 07:57:55 2020 No.12248862 >>12248856 It was a preburner test. Some think that it was the second preburner test, with the first one happening around 3:30am. They say the first test wasn't noticeable because the oxygen wouldn't have ignited like the methane did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:10:12 2020 No.12248887 >>12248813 when do we put the dildo tip on this fucker? (SN8)

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:13:36 2020 No.12248893 >>12248887 Probably shortly after they're done with the static tests.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:15:46 2020 No.12248900 >>12248862 >wasn't noticeable There was no fireball but it was pretty easy to notice with the white stuff shooting out from the side which always happens during engine startup. It was only hard to tell if it was all 3 engines or only one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:22:47 2020 No.12248913 >>12248893 Assuming they do a full static fire and put the nose on, can we expect them to do another static fire using the header tanks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:23:50 2020 No.12248915 >>12248900 >white stuff >starship coom

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:28:52 2020 No.12248924 >>12248913 Who knows? I don't work for them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:31:43 2020 No.12248927 >>12248913 I want to say yes because playing it safe might be the way to go, especially since the engines are so expensive. But SpaceX is trying to get to Mars asap, so that could mean skipping a second static fire and going straight into 15km.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:38:20 2020 No.12248936 Is the pre-burner like the equivalent of a sparkplug or something

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:44:41 2020 No.12248943 https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-6/Ramping_up_to_launch_sea-level_charting_satellite

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:57:21 2020 No.12248959 File: 441 KB, 1447x1079, Screenshot_20201019-055615_YouTube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >spacex circa 2014 >here's your suppliers bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:59:31 2020 No.12248963 >>12248936 They power the turbo pumps.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 08:59:58 2020 No.12248964 >>12248959 Can't read a fucking thing on that

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:03:25 2020 No.12248970 >>12248964 see a doctor

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:12:28 2020 No.12248979

>>12248936
Preburner has no analogue in combustion engine they are cans that do initial atomization and mixng of fuel far off proper mixture ratio so you end with 80% fuel 20% oxydizer mixture that heats up just to 600-800k and is used to drive the turbine downstream and later goes to main chamber hot gas manifolds where 2 gas streams start to mix going through 100+ centrifugal swirl injector elements into the main chamber that gas gas mixing is essential to stability and throttling of raptor as it both makes chamber shorter and combustion more uniform as vaporization causes most problems in LRE

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:13:07 2020 No.12248980 >>12248970 Maybe you should see a fucking computer doctor if you think that image is of acceptable quality

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:22:30 2020 No.12248999 >>12248813 Should have waited for 900.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:26:24 2020 No.12249003 >>12248980 you besmirch the great garrett reisman, sir, not i. i spit on you, blind man

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:52:38 2020 No.12249046 >>12248915 >humanity spreads its seed by spraying other planets with white stuff from long, rounded, hard objects

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 09:55:54 2020 No.12249054 File: 2.99 MB, 800x1026, SLS_contractors.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12248959 amateur

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:03:05 2020 No.12249071 >>12249046 >flying mother nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:03:28 2020 No.12249074 What kinda ghosts will be on Mars? I’m betting poltergeists

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:09:22 2020 No.12249086 >>12249074 Ghost of microbes past

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:14:28 2020 No.12249093 This badboy ready to get frisky with asteroid Bennu tomorrow. https://phys.org/news/2020-10-touch-and-go-spacecraft-sampling-asteroid.html >>12248888 Dream on Mars Man

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:18:48 2020 No.12249101
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>>12249074
The ghosts of people who hated space colonization. They would become the new gremlin on Mars with the colonists explaining away random odd failures as "the vengeful spirits of evil people who want us to come back to Terra sabotaging us". Various rituals would be made to ward off the ghosts with most of them being ritualized checks of the machinery explained as the spirit of human ingenuity and labor being toxic to those ghosts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:20:45 2020 No.12249103 >>12249101 >despite making up only 10% of the twitter population....

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:21:52 2020 No.12249107 Nose getting stacked onto fairing barrel

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:27:56 2020 No.12249122 >>12248959 Men with a time machine: Elon move everything to Texas now and you will get twice your development speed at 1/100th the cost

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:36:57 2020 No.12249136 >>12249107 Completed Starship by the end of this week?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:39:20 2020 No.12249148 >>12249101 >so the public no longer has a say in it Is there ever a time when this is a bad thing? Especially in spaceflight of all things?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:40:20 2020 No.12249153 >>12249148 um i think the twitter experts know a little more about spaceflight than private aerospace corporations, sweaty

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:44:38 2020 No.12249171 >read /sfg/ >hear loud jet noises >turns out it's some military holiday A MiG-29 literally just flew over my house.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:48:32 2020 No.12249186 >>12249101 When the fuck has the general public ever had a say in space exploration? like what fucking world does this guy live in? All that's changed is space exploration went from government run (private) to commercially run (a bit less private).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:53:42 2020 No.12249201 >>12249186 If they want to have a say then they just need to buy some stonks

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:54:12 2020 No.12249202 >>12249186 >they think apollo was cancelled to feed the niggerkin and they arent completely wrong. thanks welfare state!

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:54:46 2020 No.12249203
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>>12249171
Are you that anon that always talks about russia practicing invasion shit over your country? lmao
>>12249186
Never. Spaceflight twitter is a very niche subset of human degeneracy that get mad when they see others getting mad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 10:58:44 2020 No.12249210 >>12249203 SAY IT WITH ME Space - X

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:05:46 2020 No.12249223 >>12249203 These people really have no frame of reference outside of childrens entertainment

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:09:23 2020 No.12249230 >>12249203 I don't think you could find a bigger fan of SpaceX than NASA. What did Robert mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:11:05 2020 No.12249233 File: 406 KB, 2048x1366, iss crew.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Name that band

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:13:13 2020 No.12249242 >>12249233 Toilet cleaners.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:14:45 2020 No.12249244 I see that there is a static fire test now. What did I miss?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:16:48 2020 No.12249248 File: 417 KB, 2048x1536, EksrojgW0AMepo9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just the tip, just for a second

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:16:57 2020 No.12249249 >>12249233 harness and the greenscreens

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:17:04 2020 No.12249250 >>12249233 Witless and Weightless

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:24:59 2020 No.12249260 >>12249233 Falling Perpetually

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:25:41 2020 No.12249261 File: 81 KB, 601x665, 9aa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249054 Good god oldspace...why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:26:18 2020 No.12249264 >>12249233 >I rode the demonator first

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:28:22 2020 No.12249268 File: 108 KB, 744x516, 1597072185296.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:29:58 2020 No.12249271 File: 250 KB, 1000x1546, 1555278633858.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mission to a black hole when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:30:36 2020 No.12249273 File: 1.61 MB, 1819x760, wall-e_MoonMall.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249203 wall-e is based unironically my optimal future

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:31:01 2020 No.12249274 >>12249233 Endless Horizon Point Traversers Weightless Pilots Residents of the Abyss Deniers of Gravity Always Falling

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:36:14 2020 No.12249287 >>12249233 The Wholesome Keanus

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:46:01 2020 No.12249304 >>12249203 does spacex even put up any space junk? To my knowledge everything from the falcon 9 is either reused or de-orbited. Their starlink satellites are also de-orbited so they don't contribute to the problem

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:47:04 2020 No.12249306 >>12249093 nice. Also Osiris-Rex is a really cool name

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:48:01 2020 No.12249309 >>12249248 How does the crane attach? Internal magnets?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:48:51 2020 No.12249312 >>12249309 velcro

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:50:41 2020 No.12249314 >>12248913 >>12248927 They said there will be a second static fire test after the nose cone is put on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:50:48 2020 No.12249315 >>12249309 Double-sided tape

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:51:48 2020 No.12249318 >>12249314 They?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:52:39 2020 No.12249320 >>12249315 Ohh makes sense thanks. I assume it outgasses for RCS EM Drive thrust

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:58:09 2020 No.12249332 >>12249320 once em drive is proven homo, the field is open for a serious visionary such as myself. my theory of planck string sliding provides the surest path to FTL travel. I am currently in talks with DARPA, wish me luck -Dr. T

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:58:29 2020 No.12249334 >>12249318 Not 100 percent sure where I heard it from, but it was stated it would happen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:00:56 2020 No.12249342 >>12249203 No, I'm from the Balkans. There is nothing here to invade for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:03:04 2020 No.12249351 >>12249101 >apartheid emerald mine owner Weird how NPCs repeat this verbatim without bothering to look it up

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:03:09 2020 No.12249352 >>12249334 cmon man

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:04:27 2020 No.12249353 >>12249351 even if it were true, that would make elon super based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:11:49 2020 No.12249374 >>12249351 Literal original sin talk, and very misleading-musk was broke and no bad terms with his dad when he left home at 17.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:18:29 2020 No.12249390

>>12249374
Exactly, the whole reason Elon left South Africa was to escape his abusive dad. Then he worked on a farm in Saskatchewan and a sawmill in Vancouver to make enough money to move to California and start Zip2. If he was so rich he wouldn't have to do this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:20:33 2020 No.12249399 >>12249271 next time I visit your mom

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:21:33 2020 No.12249402 >>12249233 Come and Fly with the White Guys

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:27:20 2020 No.12249423 >>12249390 >worked on a farm wtf did he do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:29:33 2020 No.12249430 >>12249423 he had family there so he just did work around the farm I guess. I don't know details.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:33:16 2020 No.12249434 File: 316 KB, 1440x1652, 1603124411072.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The visionaries that saved humanity

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:34:33 2020 No.12249436 >>12249233 Magellan Speedrun

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:37:27 2020 No.12249441 File: 1.36 MB, 5568x3712, cargo dragon iss captured.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249434 This explains Kanye's "dragon energy" meme. He's just talking about capsules.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:41:26 2020 No.12249452 >>12249434 >cybertruck shoes

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:42:14 2020 No.12249455 File: 154 KB, 1280x720, Black-Hole-Max.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249271 When we build sufficiently evil robots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:42:42 2020 No.12249456 >nose is being stacked right now >mary got a notice that spacex will be testing tonight starting at 9pm we're so close bros

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:43:56 2020 No.12249459 >>12249456 None of this is new information

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:46:34 2020 No.12249472 >>12249456 we are far bro. fighting chance to make 2024. so far away

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:52:34 2020 No.12249488 >>12248888 Dream On, Mars Man

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:57:15 2020 No.12249508 >>12249434 wtf did Kanye do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:57:21 2020 No.12249509 File: 305 KB, 1535x859, 1590278223562.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stacked

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:57:54 2020 No.12249511 File: 2.11 MB, 5568x3712, dsc_2923orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >core stage is stacked right now >going to preform a wet dress rehearsal in a few days we're so close boeing bros

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:03:50 2020 No.12249527 >>12249511 How fucking hilarious would it be if they didn't secure it and it fell over

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:04:33 2020 No.12249531 File: 479 KB, 1500x500, 1601750910371.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249511 >one of the RS-25s explodes on startup, taking the orange tank with it >entire test stand tips over and falls into the ocean, killing Senator Shelby

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:07:42 2020 No.12249545 >>12249531 >he gets a depot-shaped gravestone

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:09:11 2020 No.12249550 >>12249511 Now there's something to get excited about! Rooting for those guys!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:12:29 2020 No.12249559 >>12249456 Why do they need to stack the nose cone for a static fire test?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:16:04 2020 No.12249569 >>12249559 they arent

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:16:29 2020 No.12249573 >>12249559 they're not testing it tonight? they'll likely static fire then attach the nosecone later this week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:17:53 2020 No.12249577 >>12249573 ??

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:19:26 2020 No.12249581

>>12249390
>Elon worked on a farm
Lmao he grew up wealthy in Apartheid South Africa where black servants did all the work around the house.He would’ve been absolutely useless if he was really employed on a farm with those soft hands.Its most likely a PR cover story.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:21:08 2020 No.12249587 >>12249581 Growing up in South Africa is why Elon recognizes America will not continue to be an industrial and technological power if this critical race niggery keeps being pushed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:23:08 2020 No.12249593 >>12249581 based elon

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:29:23 2020 No.12249615 >>12249587 Strange.Since all the bad experiences he had in South Africa was at the hands of white South Africans(more specifically the Boers).It was the reason he left.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:30:17 2020 No.12249617 >>12249615 Niggers are much more violent than whites.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:31:02 2020 No.12249620 >>12249233 Tony and the TIGERS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:31:27 2020 No.12249622 File: 496 KB, 634x635, SouthAfricaorUSA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249615 yeah those dirty violent boers am I right fellow progressives

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:32:05 2020 No.12249627 >>12249615 That's why Elon went to America instead of Europe. He realized that Eur*s are the niggers of western civilization.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:32:55 2020 No.12249629
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>>12249615
Anon, use your brain. What would happen to Elon if he came out and said that niggers are a civilization destroying plague right now? He'd be immediately ineligible for all federal contracts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:33:42 2020 No.12249635 >>12249617 Cute projection, since we're talking numbers how many people have whites killed since the start of the 20th century?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:34:04 2020 No.12249638 >>12249627 >Eur*s are the niggers of western civilization. Brown american lips uttered this sentence

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:34:58 2020 No.12249642
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>>12249635
The media told me intraracial violence doesn't count and jews are white, so that doesn't count

You wouldn't go against the mainstream media narrative, would you fellow citizen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:35:19 2020 No.12249643 >>12249635 Not enough

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:35:59 2020 No.12249646 >>12249635 https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf Blacks are more violent. You can’t defend your position. :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:37:43 2020 No.12249654 >>12249646 Lol that's not even a tenth of what euros did to themselves in the first World War and we haven't even started on the colonial numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:39:15 2020 No.12249663 >>12249654 >Muh war Yes, we all know whites are smarter and more technologically sophisticated than other races and therefore more able to inflict casualties in organized large-scale wars. Niggers are still more violent. :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:40:12 2020 No.12249668 >>12249638 >t. eur*id seething with envy >>12249663 >thinking that's anything but bait

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:43:06 2020 No.12249678 File: 1.18 MB, 4619x2599, k0ik6vb7xdt51.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sprays a concealing cloud all over the test stand to escape in the chaos

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:43:14 2020 No.12249680 >>12248813 a question ive always wondered is why dont we have ANY drones in space.Why no drones on the moon. If we are to build structures in space then you'd need to get thousands of robot drones working to move equipment and weld shit.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:45:52 2020 No.12249693 /nigger general/ Every fucking time

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:46:17 2020 No.12249696

>>12249680
>a question ive always wondered is why dont we have ANY drones in space

There’s a few rovers, landers, and probes active right now at various locations in the solar system, but it’s all scientific and very small in scale. Nothing like a mass deployment like you’re imagining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:46:31 2020 No.12249698 uhhhh did the Delta IV launch yet

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:46:52 2020 No.12249700
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Africans are individually violent and low impulse control creatures, but are incapable of the organizational logistics required of a proper war or a real genocide. Their genocides are messy, ad-hoc affairs like Rwanada.

Europeans are masters of technology and logistics, but killed most of their brave and strong specimens during two cataclysmic wars of technology, industry and machinery.

China killed 20+ million of their own in the Taiping Rebellion but nobody cares because there's always more Chinamen where that came from.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:48:36 2020 No.12249708
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>>12249622
Anon,you do realize in 1990 there was still Apartheid in South Africa and that for the majority of people the police were seen as the enemy?

>>12249629
>>12249627
>”Elon attended Bryanston High School when he was a teenager. However, a group of boys assaulted him so badly, he ended up at a hospital in Sandton.”

>”After being kicked in the head, pushed down the stairs and beaten further, Musk was relocated to Pretoria High, but it didn’t do much to alter his perceptions. It’s alleged the school asked him for a R1 million grant, and he agreed – but only on the condition that they never contact him again.”

>”Musk had made his mind up on South Africa then and there, it would seem. The whole Musk family felt let down by the school and the country in general – according to Elon’s father, Errol, the attackers weren’t punished and the incident was passed off as a case of “boys being boys”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/why-did-elon-musk-leave-south-africa/amp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:49:33 2020 No.12249714 >>12249708 What was the murder rate in South Africa in 1990? What is the murder rate in South Africa today?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:51:45 2020 No.12249720 >>12249663 ;)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:52:05 2020 No.12249721 >>12249233 Space Sausage

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:52:17 2020 No.12249722 >>12249680 SHITTY EXPENSIVE BOOSTERS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:52:46 2020 No.12249723 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_oaT_atcFE Inb4 kaputt

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:53:31 2020 No.12249724 >>12249693 welcome to reddit

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:55:38 2020 No.12249729

>>12249663
Nope, whites just found a smarter way to be violent, you just cant stop it, what with all the wars in the Middle East, Vietnam and the drug wars instigated by the us govt in South America. It's called being evil and it's worse than violence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:57:35 2020 No.12249735 >>12249729 Blacks aren't as good at being violent, but they're at least as evil if not worse. See Rwanda. Incompetence is not an excuse for black behavior.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:59:32 2020 No.12249736

>>12249714
>What was the murder rate in South Africa in 1990?
As per article:”South Africa currently has one of the highest murder rates in the world at 36 per 100,000 people.”

“However, the data shows that there was a sharp downward trend in the homicide rate after the country abolished the apartheid system in the early 1990s.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/329027/over-500000-people-have-been-murdered-in-south-africa-since-1994/amp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:00:17 2020 No.12249738 >>12249736 >“However, the data shows that there was a sharp downward trend in the homicide rate after the country abolished the apartheid system in the early 1990s.” Citation fucking needed.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:01:10 2020 No.12249741

>>12249735
Lol don't even try to compare, whites cross their own borders to be violent, you create reasons to be violent, Rwanda genocide actually happened because of the mess the French left there, look at what they're doing in West Africa killing presidents who want to break away from there choke hold, look at what they and the US did to Libya, for every violent black story I can tell you a white violent story behind it

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Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:05:36 2020 No.12249755
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>>12249736
>“However, the data shows that there was a sharp downward trend in the homicide rate after the country abolished the apartheid system in the early 1990s.”
They can't be serious

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:05:52 2020 No.12249756 File: 33 KB, 566x550, RS-72.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249748 Also known as Aestus II.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:05:52 2020 No.12249757

>>12249741
>actually niggers murdering other niggers en masse with machetes is the fault of the french
lol ok darkie
>for every example of black violence I can make up bullshit to blame whites
yeah that's because you're a perpetual victim making up stories, not because of any actual reality

also Libya isn't black retard, and if we want to count Arabs as black you're going to have a lot more black violence to make excuses for (the Iran Iraq war, the Barbary Pirates, everything involving the Ottoman Empire for centuries...)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:05:57 2020 No.12249758 >>12248640 they didn't find out about that during the test lmao, the test went exactly as planned and everybody learned nothing Ares 1-X was literally just spending half a billion dollars in order to waste an SRB

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:07:51 2020 No.12249763 File: 163 KB, 579x811, M-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249756 >>12249759 Big

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:08:42 2020 No.12249765 >>12249757 Nobody said they were black, you're just deflecting to avoid the truth about all the wars your people have instigated around the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:08:48 2020 No.12249767 File: 73 KB, 671x699, f1b booster.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249759 How many years until aerojet rocketdyne goes under and we can see the F1B fly at least once

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:08:59 2020 No.12249768 File: 59 KB, 787x600, LR-91-AJ-5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249763

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:09:19 2020 No.12249769 >>12248829 in a field with a box of scrap Elon's Junkyard and Spaceship parts (the image came later)

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:09:21 2020 No.12249770
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>>12249738
>Citation fucking needed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/facts-show-south-africa-has-not-become-more-violent-since-democracy-62444

>>12249755
Do you really believe police in Apartheid South Africa bothered investigating crime in black townships?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:10:12 2020 No.12249772
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>>12249758
>they didn't even discover an obvious and fatal flaw in Ares 1 despite flight testing it at a price of billions
I can't be angry about niggers when Ares 1 existed, Ares 1 is worse than niggers

thank FUCK omega finally died so we can nail that coffin for good

>>12249765
>nobody said they were black
you did nigger stop being retarded
>>12249741
look at what they and the US did to Libya, for every violent black story I can tell you a white violent story behind it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:10:17 2020 No.12249773 File: 48 KB, 1054x450, AR1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249768

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:11:33 2020 No.12249778 >>12249772 I said around the world idiot, just because I used Rwanda and Libya in the same post doesn't mean I meant they're black, God you're dumb

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:11:44 2020 No.12249779 File: 98 KB, 736x736, space_merlin_engine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249777

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:12:25 2020 No.12249780 File: 44 KB, 648x500, Merlin-1Ci.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249779

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:13:27 2020 No.12249784 File: 21 KB, 509x400, Bell-8247.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249780 Some kind of white coating on the inside of the nozzle. Looks interesting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:13:53 2020 No.12249786 >>12249778 >I said around the world idiot No you didn't, your post is right there, we can read it, what the fuck is wrong with you? The word "world" does not appear in your post. Period. Stop being a dumb, lying nigger.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:13:53 2020 No.12249787

>>12249729
>Nope, whites just found a smarter way to be violent

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886912004047

Nope. Blacks are just outright genetically more predisposed to violence.
I think it’s a good trait myself. Passive people are eternal victims.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:14:40 2020 No.12249790 >>12249309 just weld it on there bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:14:55 2020 No.12249791 >>12249741 >Niggers have no personal responsibility for their actions Lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:15:12 2020 No.12249795 File: 1.88 MB, 2775x3450, space_RD-25 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249784

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:15:45 2020 No.12249797 File: 32 KB, 512x450, Riplay.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249789 From Ursa Major Technologies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:16:16 2020 No.12249800 File: 1.52 MB, 540x360, spacex_boom.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What was /sfg/ like when pic related happened?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:16:47 2020 No.12249801 >>12249800 9/11 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:16:59 2020 No.12249802 File: 55 KB, 816x450, Hadley.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249797 Same here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:17:18 2020 No.12249804 File: 77 KB, 564x768, space_F1_engine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249759

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:17:38 2020 No.12249807 >>12249786 What does cross borders mean? And what countries did the French involve in their wars in Africa retard? Libya and Rwanda does that imply they're both black, why are so retarded anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:17:53 2020 No.12249809 >>12249800 /sfg/ is newer than the last Falcon 9 RUD

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:18:35 2020 No.12249811
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>>12249741
>for every violent black story I can tell you a white violent story behind it
>tfw i've been a white guy my whole life but have yet to be let in on the machiavellian scheme of my people to target minorities
what gives bros?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:18:56 2020 No.12249812 >>12249807 >claim you say X, which was a lie >pretend Y meant X Put on a trip so we can filter you, fag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:19:27 2020 No.12249813 >>12249786 You are pol schizo making connections where they don't exist, take your antipsychotics and get off the internet

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:20:20 2020 No.12249815 File: 31 KB, 451x500, XLR-11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249802 >"How can we make a throttleable engine without actually throttling it?" >Hold my Ballantine, I have an idea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:20:38 2020 No.12249819 >>12249813 >>12249807 samefag

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:20:40 2020 No.12249821 >>12249809 wut about proto sfg and launch breads?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:20:45 2020 No.12249822 >>12249770 Reported =/= properly investigated. It's arguable that murders are even less likely to be properly reported now than in a more orderly South Africa but this isn't the thread for it so stop posting your bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:21:40 2020 No.12249824 >>12249815 From General Electric.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:22:27 2020 No.12249829 >>12249811 be the change you want to see

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:22:30 2020 No.12249830 >>12249821 don't forget /kspg/ which for a long time was the only place on this website to have serious discussions about space exploration

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:22:41 2020 No.12249831 File: 38 KB, 591x522, X-405.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249824 >From General Electric. pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:22:57 2020 No.12249833 >>12248888 DREAM ON MARS MAN

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:23:12 2020 No.12249834 >>12249830 >serious discussions about Mexican cat rapists ftfy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:24:12 2020 No.12249838 File: 52 KB, 779x550, RL-10A-3S.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249831 There are too many RL-10 variants.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:24:35 2020 No.12249840 >>12248888 dream on, Mars man!

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:24:51 2020 No.12249842

>>12249819
Can't refute my argument about whites going out of their way to induce violence around the world so you latch on to a stupid misunderstanding about Libyan Arabs being black because that's all you can contribute, you can't face the truth so you cope the best way you know how to

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:25:58 2020 No.12249845 >>12249834 Excuse me? What all was wrong with /kspg/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:26:06 2020 No.12249847 File: 53 KB, 939x500, JAXA_SRBs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249838

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:27:13 2020 No.12249850 >>12249847 Wait, Epsilon is just a baby SRB? Cute!

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:27:16 2020 No.12249851

>>12249842
Are you still going darkie? niggers have a lower kill count because they're awful at organization and Africa was colonized because you spent multiple centuries doing absolutely nothing of value, Muslims bootstrapped themselves from nothing in a desert with camels and yet African blacks are perpetual victims. Japan benefited immensely from interactions with the West because they controlled the terms. China has a higher kill count than all other races combined but your small darkie brain never mentions them. QED.

Also, Jews aren't white.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:27:21 2020 No.12249852 >>12249845 A general that was so derailed that it was banned from a board where people regularly derail threads with fap bait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:28:07 2020 No.12249857 >>12249723 Looks like they pushed it back a day? New stream is a Q&A before the attempt tomorrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msLV_NydC0g

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:28:24 2020 No.12249859 File: 39 KB, 549x418, AJ-260_onthemove.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249847 Imagine seeing this going through your neighborhood.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:28:41 2020 No.12249860 >>12249845 if you try to start a thread on /vg/ with KSP in the title it will autosage because the thread was so terminally awful they managed to get permanently banned from fucking /vg/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:28:53 2020 No.12249862 >>12249834 >tfw stopped posting there before everything got FUBAR dodged a bullet

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:29:32 2020 No.12249864 >>12249741 niggers can't into space lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:30:16 2020 No.12249866 File: 263 KB, 2272x1704, centaur_right_angle_nozzle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249859

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:31:08 2020 No.12249869

>>12249851
We are talking whites compared to blacks idiot, there you go again retard deflecting, you have a talent for it, you really don't want to see how much violence have brought into this world, you want to bring in the Chinese too and also sweeten your people's deeds with the scientific contributions they made, as if that erases all the violence they've done

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:32:31 2020 No.12249872

>>12249869
>darkie is still mad
have you tried being competent as a race?
>YAHR PEOPLES
your peoples have invented nothing of value and continue to be disproportionately criminal in every country you reside in to the present day, go be black somewhere else

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:32:31 2020 No.12249873 >>12249860 The autosage was lifted, but the general died because it kept getting buried by the faster gacha and mobile games threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:32:52 2020 No.12249874 >>12249822 >Citation needed >NOOOO....Not That Citation!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:33:36 2020 No.12249877 File: 289 KB, 2184x1144, Raptor_SN20_tractor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249866

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:34:15 2020 No.12249878 >>12249874 >>12249869 still samefag there is literally one (1) angry niggerposter shitting up this thread with how much he hates whites

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:34:38 2020 No.12249881 File: 154 KB, 497x700, AJ10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249877

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Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:35:00 2020 No.12249884

>>12249872
If you can't talk about the subject violence then fuck off and go read the definition of violence you fucking retard, you probably have terrible concentration, you have to keep bringing up stupid deflection about other topics because your brain isn't rigorous enough with simple definitions

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:35:33 2020 No.12249885 File: 76 KB, 512x396, hammerhead.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249878 >there is literally one (1) angry niggerposter shitting up this thread with how much he hates whites It's a pretty regular occurrence. Just ignore it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:35:56 2020 No.12249887 File: 68 KB, 607x585, XLR-83.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249881

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:36:14 2020 No.12249888 File: 130 KB, 1002x1024, space_dangerous_mission.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:37:17 2020 No.12249891 File: 3.53 MB, 306x172, space_shuttle_ignition.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:37:28 2020 No.12249893 File: 41 KB, 614x326, Continous_Fissile_Detonation_Engine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249887 Also known as Zubrin's Cocaine Fueled Nightmare.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:38:12 2020 No.12249895

>>12249884
>wahhh why can't you limit yourself to my narrowly defined subject wahhh
lol black fragility, take the blinders off nigger, you don't need them, you aren't in a cotton field lol, you can discuss a topic more broadly than laser focused on screeching about whitey as if that's original and not just angst for failing to develop like every other race

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:39:06 2020 No.12249897 >>12249884 i don't get the point at screaming about your hatred for the race that has produced like 99% of space achievements in a spaceflight thread

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:39:30 2020 No.12249899
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>>12249891
Fun fact: The engines on any particular Shuttle are labeled one, two, and three. During the start-up sequence the engines are lit one after the other in order of three, two, then one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:40:13 2020 No.12249903 File: 71 KB, 240x312, 1407284648752.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249893 I want this but with an SRB

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:40:16 2020 No.12249904 >>12249891 You can see it pushing up against the clamps. Neat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:41:05 2020 No.12249905 >>12249874 That wasn't me. Multiple people in this thread think you're a retard who should stop posting and race baiting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:41:19 2020 No.12249906 File: 87 KB, 879x485, Bezos_BE4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249893

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:41:44 2020 No.12249907 >>12249897 if I was born as obsolete farm equipment in a world where everyone else is inherently superior I'd be angsty too

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:42:25 2020 No.12249908 >>12249878 Stop being paranoid.There’s more than one poster.You asked for citations and now you’re pissed that it doesn’t conform to your preconceived beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:42:27 2020 No.12249910 File: 55 KB, 353x428, Gamma_8_engine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249906

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:43:22 2020 No.12249914 >>12249906 At last I have weaved hay into copper. Took me 20 years.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:43:49 2020 No.12249917 >>12249908 >there's more than one poster >thinks I posted something someone else did lol stop being paranoid darkie, the Klan isn't behind you...right now anyways...

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:44:02 2020 No.12249918 [DELETED]

>>12249897
You people are really blind aren't you, so that erases your history of violence doesn't it and you can comfortably replace it with black violence, no wonder you are surprised the west is falling, you really can't figure out why you have to import Immigrant who keep destroying your countries

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:45:28 2020 No.12249920 >>12249918 Violence is good, now shut up lol

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:46:04 2020 No.12249921

>>12249906
>Jeff Bezos shows up for his annual visit
>All the BO employees pretend to work diligently and assure him that his money is well spent
>He leaves
>The employees relax and spend the rest of the year doing nothing.
Such is life at Blue Origin.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:46:08 2020 No.12249922
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>>12249881
The AJ10 is my favorite hypergolic engine, especially the Apollo SM variant.
>90kN of spicy bone cancer
>dead simple and reliable

>>12249903
Last week /sfg/ actually ran the numbers on a NSWR-style fission torch version of the Shuttle SRB and it was terrifying. Something like 64G acceleration with a 100 ton payload for two minutes.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:46:20 2020 No.12249923

>>12249918
>you people
>your history of violence
The funniest part of all this is that the angry nigger is the only one here who actually believes in fundamentally racist concepts like the sins of the father. Imagine if we held all blacks responsible for all black crime in America. Every rape, every murder, every robbery, every looting, every arson.

Maybe it's time for another holocaust?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:50:15 2020 No.12249931 Was the nerva rocket program based? I know almost nothing about it. It ran on hydrogen right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:52:37 2020 No.12249934 >>12249931 Looked promising until they axed it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:52:41 2020 No.12249935
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>>12249931
Definitely based. Shooting hydrogen through a reactor to heat it to seriously high temperatures. There was at least a couple proposals for an air breathing version, like Project Pluto, the Fifth Horseman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:56:02 2020 No.12249943 >>12249935 Russia‘s still working on this. Mildly contaminated a village when one blew up on the pad.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:59:58 2020 No.12249953

>>12249934
>>12249935
Sounds like a legal nightmare, especially for the commercial market. I guess it’s one of those things only the government can really build and test. I have two more questions about it though: 1) how does it compare to something like an RS-25? I assume you are still using hydrogen but it’s way fucking better in terms of thrust? And 2) would a fusion version function the same way? Shoot hydrogen through a fusion (instead of fission) reactor?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:01:51 2020 No.12249957 >>12249953 We need megacorporation takeover

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:02:37 2020 No.12249959 >>12249917 >Jesus take the wheel Please take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:02:51 2020 No.12249960 >>12249953 I'm just gonna pull stays from Wiki here, all stats vacuum >NERVA >841 isp >246KN >dry weight 18 tons >RS-25 >452 isp >2,279KN >3.5 tons

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:04:38 2020 No.12249963 @12249959 who are you quoting

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:05:45 2020 No.12249964 >>12249960 >841 isp I think I just took the nuclearpill bros

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:08:01 2020 No.12249967 >>12249964 >dry weight 18 tons >piss all thrust

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:09:02 2020 No.12249974
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>>12249931
Using it for a reusable transorbital shuttle would've been awesome and enabled the delivery of large large (40-ton+) payloads to the lunar surface with one saturn V launch's worth of propellant.

>>12249953
The version that would have flown in space would have had around double the specific impulse of an RS-25. The ISP is higher because you have only hydrogen in your exhaust instead of heavier products like water from hydrolox.

Also NERVA is a closed-cycle reactor where the reaction mass isn't being shot THROUGH a reactor - just heated by it. The real limit on its ISP is how hot you can get the reactor without melting it, not unlike the problem with controlled fusion reactors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:09:05 2020 No.12249975 >>12249967 efficiency is key when interplanetary

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:09:57 2020 No.12249979 >there are "people" on /sfg/ who are just learning what an NTR is Is this why we have an entire thread arguing about niggers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:11:31 2020 No.12249985 >>12249979 nobody on 4chan can resist replying to "we wuz kangz, reee whitey" bait

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:16:05 2020 No.12249996 >>12249724 No

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:16:06 2020 No.12249997 >>12249979 NTR is a sophisticated man's taste. Vanillafags are for low IQ niggers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:23:07 2020 No.12250014 >>12249997 cucks get the rope, your fetish is dumb and gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:23:41 2020 No.12250016 >>12249985 >>12249997 can you people shut the fuck up and talk about something at least partially spaceflight related; senator Sh*lby for instance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:24:04 2020 No.12250017 >>12249906 Well that's craft brewery sorted. Now about those rockets...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:25:36 2020 No.12250019 File: 941 KB, 627x502, 1599851233012.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249877 There is probably a team of Chinese engineers looking at this picture trying to figure out how it works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:25:46 2020 No.12250020 >>12249745 Wraparound plumbing is sexy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:28:12 2020 No.12250025 >>12250019 Everyone knows how it works because the basic principles are available freely online. The problem China will have is metallurgy. They're still struggling to make modern jet turbines, much less an oxygen rich full flow turbopump.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:29:37 2020 No.12250032 >>12249891 What's the point of the sparky things

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:29:59 2020 No.12250034

>>12249979
Anon who originally asked here. I should state that I KNOW what an NTR is. I just haven't thought about it in like, 5 years. Anything I learned from a single hullo video and a rabbit hole googling after playing KSP has been lost from my brain in that time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:31:27 2020 No.12250035 File: 60 KB, 680x680, 1598727069879.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250032 to keep orange foam orange and not crispy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:31:37 2020 No.12250036 >>12250019 >team of BlueOrigin engineers

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:32:03 2020 No.12250039 >>12250032 Ignite any excess hydrogen, they talk about it here: https://youtu.be/vFwqZ4qAUkE?t=188

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:32:35 2020 No.12250040 >>12249877 >literally the most advanced engine on Earth >drive it over to the test stand on a pallet with a forklift beyond based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:35:13 2020 No.12250046 >>12249931 It ran on uranium, hydrogen was just its propellant fluid.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:35:18 2020 No.12250047

>>12250025
>The problem China will have is metallurgy. They're still struggling to make modern jet turbines, much less an oxygen rich full flow turbopump.
People keep saying this. Why is it the case? Is there really that much proprietary knowledge? I mean I know turbine blades are grown from a single crystal of titanium or whatever but surely they must have had really smart people on it for years? I don't buy the propaganda that autocracy wrecks their intellect

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:36:15 2020 No.12250049 >>12249975 Unfortunately not true. TWR and mass fraction matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:37:25 2020 No.12250052 >>12250049 Also an important considerable is that NTR runs on hydrogen, which can be found pretty much all over the solar system

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:37:42 2020 No.12250053

>>12250040
>most advanced publicly known engine on Earth
idk if DARPA and Skunkworks are hiding some sort of magic engine but I really hope they are

>>12250047
China pissed off everyone by the time they wanted to make advanced jet engines, so they've had to develop all their metallurgy at home. And metallurgy is hard. I don't know exactly how far behind they still are (nobody except the Chinese military and US spies probably know), maybe they've snuck up on us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:37:54 2020 No.12250054 >>12249046 >"This is colonization"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:39:44 2020 No.12250058 >>12250054 >feminist team makes vagina shaped lunar lander in protest of "phallic space programs" >it gets lost on the way to the moon and crashes

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:42:33 2020 No.12250069 >>12249233 No Doubt (they imagine fucking her)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:43:27 2020 No.12250072 File: 752 KB, 2522x1649, Artist's_impression_of_ʻOumuamua.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's the anniversary of aliens visiting us and our governments lying to us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:44:41 2020 No.12250079 >>12249953 >>12249974 The Isp is higher but the thrust is worse, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:45:53 2020 No.12250083 File: 55 KB, 344x512, RD-0418.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250079 Yes, but thrust doesn't matter as much when in orbit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:46:20 2020 No.12250086 >>12250072 you have a lot of faith that classified systems would be tasked with looking at "this weird fast rock" instead of China

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:46:56 2020 No.12250089

>>12250047
Its a meme. Chinks are good at copying but innovating is a hard thing that can't be replicated in a country run by a totalitarian government. Atleast thats the common assumption. But we'll see. They do have their advanced hypersonic rockets and they do launch the most amount of rockets and they do test out new rocket engines all the time. So who really knows.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:47:08 2020 No.12250091 >>12250047 China can't steal metallurgy because ITAR works.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:49:54 2020 No.12250098

I kinda hope China is actually far enough caught up to build something like Starship and become a serious threat to American space dominance, because either America rises to the challenge and we get a GLORIOUS space race, or America fails and we get a horrific chinese communist space dystopia like The Expanse which is better than nothing I guess

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:51:35 2020 No.12250102

>>12250098
I think there will be a huge paradigm shift the second chinese boots from a hypergolic rocket touch the lunar surface and SLS is all the government has. Hopefully by that point there will be an emergency meeting and the first idea will be to axe SLS and throw all the money at commercial rockets who are doing much more for MUCH cheaper

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:53:01 2020 No.12250105 >>12250053 >In the 1960s, Rocketdyne fired an engine using a mixture of liquid lithium, gaseous hydrogen, and liquid fluorine to produce a specific impulse of 542 seconds, likely the highest measured such value for a chemical rocket motor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:53:04 2020 No.12250106 >>12249101 I'm sorry, does this person think that something being taxpayer funded means the people have a say in it? Did the people have a say on strapping 7 astronauts to a defective SRB and launching it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:54:07 2020 No.12250109 >>12250102 DESU china isn't planning on a lunar mission until the early 2030's, so we have a chance to set up shop on the moon with both SLS, New Glenn, and Starship

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:55:12 2020 No.12250110 File: 155 KB, 1041x1067, after the booty.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy FUCK, things were a lot different in the 60's. This is fucking fascinating https://youtu.be/xZFnTBSRKcg

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:56:50 2020 No.12250111 >>12249441 >Canada's only space contribution is a boom with two servos in it. I could have built the canadarm with the junk in my backyard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:57:28 2020 No.12250115 >>12249922 Could you actually turn it into something survivable? That sounds like an amazing payload delivery mechanism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:58:49 2020 No.12250122 I think it's amazing how Neptune and Uranus were only visited by Voyager 2. What monsters these Voyager missions were.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:01:12 2020 No.12250131 >>12250115 If you can increase the burn time 15x it comes in a bit over 4 Gs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:01:44 2020 No.12250134 >>12250122 Voyager 3 when?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:02:06 2020 No.12250135

>>12249953
Solid Core NTR's heat propellant to a relatively low temperature (below 3000k usually) however because it's a monopropellant it can be accelerated faster because it's lighter, the SSME gets to 3600k however because Oxygen is almost 15 times heavier than Hydrogen the impulse is lower. NTR's are not a very mature tech but are basically the only non meme tech for a proper mission to the outer solar system. As for performance, you can get past 30 twr with a hydrogen NTR but Methane is king here, some pretty exotic designs could give you a twr better than Hydrogen engines with 600+ isp running methane however they'd be really expensive. The best thing about them though is that they also produce electricity meaning you don't need solar panels and this just gets better and better the further out you go.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:03:43 2020 No.12250141

>>12249964
You could get a solid core past 1000s isp if you had the money to pay the bills, they're great however as >>12249967 says the thrust is not that great,and >>12250049 is correct, which is why Hydromeme is not worth it with NTRs and Methane is objectively superior.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:05:10 2020 No.12250145

>>12250135
>basically the only non meme tech
I love how it would otherwise be a meme but it isn't because they have actually been tested. Man, the spaceflight industry used to have such big balls. Everything was open for consideration. Now it's just hydrogen first stages and SRB's

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:06:30 2020 No.12250148 >>12250105 there's a reason this didn't catch on though

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:06:50 2020 No.12250149 >>12250122 >voyager 1 could have went to pluto but scientists redirected it to get a closer look at europa instead understandable but it would have been supreme kino to have all of the accepted planets at the time be visited in one program

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:07:21 2020 No.12250151 File: 189 KB, 1444x449, chink booster vs falcon heavy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250145 >Everything was open for consideration. Now it's just hydrogen first stages and SRB's [laughs in Falcon]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:07:49 2020 No.12250152 >>12250111 I count at least seven main servos

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:09:30 2020 No.12250157 >>12249906 I know Bezos is a smart guy but in that picture he looks like a legit retard. Like his mom just told him to pose for the picture and he doesn't know what it is or where he is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:09:54 2020 No.12250158 >>12250148 Yeah, I guess keeping together superhot liquid lithium, super cold liquid hydrogen and fucking fluorine wasn't exactly trivial

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:10:23 2020 No.12250161

>>12250145
This is why we must support spacex, they're the only ones doing something useful.
If 20 years ago someone proposed a chemical only mission to Mars he'd probably get laughed out of the room but now Starship is dangerously close to pulling it off, not with mumbo jumbo tech but with superb engineering.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:10:41 2020 No.12250163 File: 2.10 MB, 2862x1800, 1590399585180.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250151 Beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:10:42 2020 No.12250164 >>12250158 common bulkhead designs were probably not considered viable

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:11:27 2020 No.12250166 LANTR but with fluorine afterburner instead of lox when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:12:28 2020 No.12250168 >>12250166 FANTA Fluorine Augmented Nuclear Thermal Autism

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:12:48 2020 No.12250169 >>12250110 Based JFK. Fuck the commies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:12:59 2020 No.12250171 >>12250040 >forklift It's called a zoom-boom anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:13:09 2020 No.12250173 >>12250161 As soon as Elon is on Mars he can start experimenting with things Earth governments might frown upon launching from Earth, like Zube Tubes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:14:00 2020 No.12250178 File: 183 KB, 771x804, 1599682462385.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250054

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:15:14 2020 No.12250180 >>12250111 don't forget Chris Hadfields music video

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:16:03 2020 No.12250182 File: 2.70 MB, 640x360, nuclear cannon.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250173 >Zube Tubes NSWR sustainer stages with fission torch SRBs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:16:33 2020 No.12250184 hydroberylliumlox engines when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:17:15 2020 No.12250186 >>12250152 Wow that's almost as many as come in my son's lego set.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:17:24 2020 No.12250187 >>12250072 You must be one of those peoppe who believes in something more strongly the less evidence there is.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:17:32 2020 No.12250189
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>>12250149
>The probe's objectives included flybys of Jupiter, Saturn, and Saturn's largest moon, Titan. Although the spacecraft's course could have been altered to include a Pluto encounter by forgoing the Titan flyby, exploration of the moon took priority because it was known to have a substantial atmosphere.
Seems like the decision was between Pluto and Titan. They did take the best decision at the time, though a Pluto visit decades earlier would have been amazing. I wonder if we'd still have had New Horizons visiting it, had that happened, probably not. I'm always at awe thinking about the incredible complexity necessary to throw a truck sized probe so far on a Grand Tour in the Solar System.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:18:40 2020 No.12250192 >>12250189 >I'm always at awe thinking about the incredible complexity necessary to throw a truck sized probe so far on a Grand Tour in the Solar System. It was the mother of all launch windows, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:19:21 2020 No.12250194 >>12250086 >>12250187 Looks, lads, I'm just trying to spice up the thread. No need to be this rude to me. Totally uncalled for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:19:46 2020 No.12250196 >>12250189 The coolest thing is that they still work 50 years later.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:21:18 2020 No.12250202

>>12250187
We have no clue what Oumaouma is, other than the fact that it accelerated out of our solar system and was previously sitting almost exactly at rest compared to the local cluster. It also didn't appear to outgas like a comet would. That's fucking weird.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:21:25 2020 No.12250203
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>>12250192
We are so fucking lucky NASA was able to secure funding for it. Imagine if all we had were shitty hubble images and nothing but concept art of some of the largest planets in our own fucking solar system in 2020. It's already a shame we don't have modern HD photos that aren't made up of half grains and analog noise

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:22:05 2020 No.12250205 File: 156 KB, 718x920, vivaldi_3KOOX2okWK.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] solid H2 with added boron/beryllium rockets when

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:23:54 2020 No.12250210 >>12250205 >incredibly complex system that pushes the bounds of known physics to create a solid hydrogen rocket >only gets 540 isp Why not spend the same amount of money on half a million Starships

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:24:28 2020 No.12250212 >>12250203 How can anyone look at Jupiter and not realize that it's just a bunch of photoshop swirling effects. Space is fake. Buy my book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:26:41 2020 No.12250222 >>12250202 It was Rama, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:27:10 2020 No.12250223 >>12250212 I own a telescope and can see Jupiter with my own eyes, it's real (unlike Mercury which doesn't exist)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:28:55 2020 No.12250227 fluoropentaborane rockets when?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:33:57 2020 No.12250245

>>12250202
It moved exactly the way an asteroid does; an elliptical orbit around the sun. It didn't approach Earth or any other body, it didn't suddenly change speed or direction other than following its trajectory. Spectrographs showed it to reflect light in the same way most asteroids do, showing it to be composed of silica and iron. And it was randomly spinning along multiple axes, which spaceships don't do.
You believe it was aliens because you want to believe, not because of any evidence.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:38:19 2020 No.12250261
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>>12250245
>it didn't change speed (non-gravitationally)
yes it did

4chan thinks the nature link is spam but you can find it with a google search

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:41:10 2020 No.12250269 >>12250261 >hyperbolic trajectory That's still gravitational.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:41:26 2020 No.12250270 File: 44 KB, 747x686, 1479737660002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how much longer until we get a repeat of SN1054 bros, I want to see a good supernova in my lifetime come on antares fucking blow up already

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:43:32 2020 No.12250281 >>12250261 refute the other stuff in >>12250245

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:45:06 2020 No.12250287

>>12250269
1. You obviously didn't read the article, or even the entire abstract, and based your entire conclusion on half a screenshot.
2. Nobody except you is speaking in certainties and belief. I don't claim any knowledge of what Oumaouma is, where as your posts have made it clear you very firmly believe it to be a simple asteroid and are emotionally attached to that belief.

The actual article abstract claims
>Here we report the detection, at 30σsignificance, of non-gravitational acceleration in the motion of ‘Oumuamua. We analyse imaging data from extensive observations by ground-based and orbiting facilities. This analysis rules out systematic biases and shows that all astrometric data can be described once a non-gravitational component representing a heliocentric radial acceleration proportional tor−2orr−1(whereris the heliocentric distance) is included in the model. After ruling out solar-radiation pressure, drag- and friction-like forces, interaction with solar wind for a highly magnetized object, and geometric effects originating from ‘Oumuamua potentially being composed of several spatially separated bodies or having a pronounced offset between its photocentre and centre of mass, we find comet-like outgassing to be a physically viable explanation, provided that ‘Oumuamua has thermal properties similar to comets

Which is especially interesting because no cometary off-gassing was detected.

>>12250281
No, I don't have to "refute" anything. I'm not the one making a positive claim that it MUST be an asteroid. All I've said is that it's a weird object with several odd properties.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:45:27 2020 No.12250290 >>12250261 It's an interstellar asteroid. The sun was the first star it had encountered in a while, and the heat caused outgassing to occur

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:47:50 2020 No.12250298 >>12250290 Then why wasn't any observed? Movement was observed consistent with a cometary outgassing, but there was no tail, no corona, nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:47:51 2020 No.12250299 File: 179 KB, 682x1024, 6A0C5B13-2020-4C90-A7ED-6BBB041548C1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12249342 Your women.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:49:14 2020 No.12250302 >>12250298 we barely knew the thing existed before it was already leaving, a small thing such as outgassing could be easily missed

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:50:18 2020 No.12250304 >>12250302 that's a valid explanation and hopefully we'll find out when Jimmy Webb finally launches in 2024

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:54:06 2020 No.12250317 File: 58 KB, 499x496, 1481089897171.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250304 >Jimmy Webb finally launches >in 2024

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:54:47 2020 No.12250318 >>12250245 >it was randomly spinning along multiple axes, which spaceships don't do we have a sample size of zero for actual interstellar spacecraft, claiming they don't tumble is rather bold

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:56:06 2020 No.12250319 >>12250317 what happens if James Webb is delayed so long that Ariane 5 is retired? Does Congress force it onto SLS? If so, 2030 is more believable, or maybe never

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:56:18 2020 No.12250320 >>12250318 well there isn't really a reason for an interstellar craft to tumble

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:56:25 2020 No.12250321 >>12250317 Thats when Starship will launch her

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:57:33 2020 No.12250333 >>12250320 how do you know that? we've never built one, maybe it's for thermal management or some exotic drive that requires it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:58:59 2020 No.12250339 >>12250333 A barbecue roll is unlikely for anything that big, and we also can't really think of a drive that would require random spinning

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:01:14 2020 No.12250349 >>12250339 yeah well we also can't drop probes along the local frame of rest with current technology so maybe those two are related???

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:02:01 2020 No.12250352 We'll have a lunar telescope before James Webb ever gets off the ground.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:03:41 2020 No.12250354
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>>12249921
>do THIRTEEN test flights for new shepard over FIVE years
>still haven't flown a single person to space
And its not even orbit, its just 100km. Its doing less than the X-15 did in 1963. Its doing less than SpaceShipOne.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:04:18 2020 No.12250357

>>12250287
>aliens visited us and the government lied to us
>I never said it was aliens
>I'm not going to provide any evidence and I'll ignore everyone refuting me and you have to prove me wrong
>you have an emotional attachment to thinking it's a rock
>Occam's razor? what's that?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:04:22 2020 No.12250358

If an ancient Egyptian ship shipwright was brought a section of hull plate from a battleship and asked to identify it, he would never in a million years believe it's a fragment of a ship. Clearly the plate is made of metal, and doesn't float. So it can't be a ship, ships are made of wood, because wood floats.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:06:00 2020 No.12250363 >>12250182 Poor piggies didn't stand much of chance :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:06:00 2020 No.12250364 >>12250358 mind = blown

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:06:43 2020 No.12250367

>>12250357
>I wasn't the original poster, take your meds
>strong assertions that an object MUST be an asteroid because we don't know what it is
>ignoring multiple published articles from Nature and Harvard because they don't fit your preconceptions
>getting emotionally invested in a maybe rock being a definite rock

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:07:18 2020 No.12250368 >>12250319 They are keeping Ariane 5 infrastructure just for JWST, I read once. Then I went to check and they had some more launches planned past it, but I'm not sure they were originally planned when JSWT was meant to launch

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:07:51 2020 No.12250371 File: 700 KB, 2048x2040, 1518124975532.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250111 >with the junk in my backyard How do you know it wasn't?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:09:04 2020 No.12250374 >>12250134 When? When there's another Grand Tour lineup, which will probably be decades away.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:10:41 2020 No.12250379 >>12250374 Every 175 years, the Grand Tour one. Perhaps there are other great routes inbetween, if there are they must've been already calculated for sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:14:35 2020 No.12250396 >>12250333 >>12250318 >If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's definately a dragon :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:15:59 2020 No.12250401 >>12250396 Dude it’s literally a comet that outgassed but not everything’s gotta be some weird /X/ shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:16:34 2020 No.12250406 >>12250358 But Oumaouma wasn't made of metal its made of rock. So if you gave an ancient egyptian a rock and said it was from a ship he'd laugh at you, no matter how butthurt you got.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:16:36 2020 No.12250407 >>12250396 this but unironically

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:16:52 2020 No.12250408

>>12250047
More advanced turbine blades have crystal grains grown vertically, with a ceramic insert. This requires some VERY advanced casting equipment to do, as any imperfections can create microporosity and other defects that are hard to detect. Also there is the challenge of creating the small cooling channels in the surface of the blade, which I can only guess is done with lasers. All of this technology is tightly controlled thanks to ITAR. Also the Chinese language is absolute gutter-trash for conveying meaningful concepts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:17:40 2020 No.12250411 File: 111 KB, 600x655, rocketdyne01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Atomic Rockets added some cool LEU NTR stuff this week. http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesigns.php#rocketdyne >same THROOST as an RL-10 at twice the Isp

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:18:29 2020 No.12250415 >>12250358 Surely even an Egyptian knew you had to add ballast (rocks) to make your ship stable. So you needed non-floating material to make a viable ship.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:18:46 2020 No.12250416 >>12250245 >it didn't suddenly change speed or direction other than following its trajectory. Wrong. It accelerated

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:19:11 2020 No.12250417 >>12249682 Well, it's a cool model anyway. The earth battle cruisers were cool as fuck.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:19:16 2020 No.12250418

>>12250406
>objective claims about something we have barely a glance at with middling telescopes
we have no fucking clue what it is, we have a size that's calculated by apparent magnitude but we don't actually KNOW the albedo, it could be significantly smaller and thinner is it was shinier, stop presenting speculative claims as fact

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:19:41 2020 No.12250421 File: 412 KB, 621x759, Screenshot_2020-10-19 Realistic Designs A-F - Atomic Rockets.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250411 HOLY SHIT WHICH ONE OF YOU FAGS WORKS AT AEROJET ROCKETDYNE NUCLEAR ORBITAL YEET TRAIN

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:21:41 2020 No.12250430 >>12249770 Yeah, there was a "sharp downward trend" when the truth and reconciliation committee was ongoing because nobody wanted to report what was really going on. Bad publicity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:22:30 2020 No.12250433 File: 684 KB, 665x768, 1582478367641.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250354 Blue Origin? More like Green Destination, amirite?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:28:40 2020 No.12250453

>>12250089
>innovating is a hard thing that can't be replicated in a country run by a totalitarian government
I think this is an utterly bogus argument. Democracy and supposed freedom of speech are very much the exception in history and yet it's not like innovation only started once we were given the vote etc. And we're often told war generates massive innovation and yet wartime is hardly a time for intellectual freedom except purely as directed towards the war effort. Specifically as regards China I'd suggest they didn't help themselves by killing off loads of smart people during the Cultural Revolution. And the corruption and fear surrounding the CCP probably don't help either. But China apart, I haven't seen a convincing argument or data to support the claim that lack of political freedom inevitably harms innovation. Finally it's worth pointing out that the US is looking pretty shaky itself on the freedom front these days - try speaking out against the woke brigade and see where it gets you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:31:03 2020 No.12250460 >>12250421 >2033 >4 orbital stages >takes longer to get to Mars than Starship with less payload how

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:35:07 2020 No.12250468

>>12250453
>Democracy and supposed freedom of speech are very much the exception in history
Rapid innovation, industrial revolution, scientific revolution is due to advances in freedom of speech and democracy. For most of the history, innovation takes place once every few hundred years or so

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:37:43 2020 No.12250476

>>12250408
>Also the Chinese language is absolute gutter-trash for conveying meaningful concepts.
Now this I'm far more willing to believe, along with other cultural factors specific to China. But I refuse to believe that dictatorship/totalitarianism precludes creativity. I mean Von Braun FFS!

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:40:12 2020 No.12250480

>>12250468
>Rapid innovation, industrial revolution, scientific revolution is due to advances in freedom of speech and democracy.
That's just a pure assertion on your part. How do you account for innovative regimes throughout history that weren't free? Or are you saying they simply don't exist? What about Nazi Germany? Isn't that the perfect example of a phenomenally innovate totalitarian regime?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:40:29 2020 No.12250481
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>>12250453
>I'd suggest they didn't help themselves by killing off loads of smart people during the Cultural Revolution. And the corruption and fear surrounding the CCP probably don't help either.
No kidding

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:41:09 2020 No.12250482

>>12250476
V2 was kind of a dumpster fire because the Nazi mucky mucks forced a prototype into series production. Do you really think von Braun couldn't have built a better Scud with more freedom to innovate?

Also, most Nazi innovations ended up being retarded, like Ferdinand Porsche insisting every tank Porsche builds be hybrid electric.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:43:16 2020 No.12250488 Milk cow Starships when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:43:18 2020 No.12250489 >>12250418 Spectographs showed it to be made of rock. Anything else is baseless speculation.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:44:26 2020 No.12250493

>>12250480
Those three took place in western europe/US where democracy and freedom of speech was taking shape. If the scientists could not speak out against the historical religious powers, then scientific revolution would not have happened. If the democratization process didn't take place, then the free establishments of commercial industries would not have taken place. Rapid innovation comes as a result of free thinking individuals thinking outside the box. This cannot happen in a repressed totalitarian government who will come and kidnap you at a moment's notice if you speak against the oligarch/powers that be.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:45:26 2020 No.12250497

>>12250453
The answer is hardly as simple as 'totalitarian = no advancement', but that totalitarianism is one facet of a culture of suppression of the individual which stifles advancement. In addition, chinks treat perception as reality, meaning that the ability to fake results or produce a copy which 'looks close' but doesn't perform as intended is as good as the real thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:45:53 2020 No.12250499 File: 2.55 MB, 2102x1034, 22707DAF-541A-4D6C-A4EE-4620005250FB.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Say what you want, but Lockheed has some great ideas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:48:28 2020 No.12250506 >>12250497 >chinks treat perception as reality Where do you get that from? Genuinely asking, I'm not a chink I SWEAR

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:49:53 2020 No.12250508 >>12250497 >chinks treat perception as reality The problem is even worse. 100% of the world treats it as such.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:51:18 2020 No.12250510 >>12250506 Its also a war/deception tactic 101 from Art of War (Sun Tzu). Appear strong where weak. Appear weak where strong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:54:47 2020 No.12250515 >>12250499 >great ideas their mars ascent concept looks cool but we all know "gateway phase 2" is already a stretch much less anything gateway related at Mars

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:55:14 2020 No.12250516

>>12250506
It's their modus operandi. Don't like the stock market? Fake it. Want to be seen as a world leader in medicine? Fake the trials. Want to be seen as a world leader in aircraft? Make an airframe that looks close enough, put a spare outdated engine on it. I believe it comes out of 'face' culture with its focus on image as opposed to material results.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:57:23 2020 No.12250523 >Land on Mun >Conduct experiments >Not enough Delta V to get back to Kerbin >Send rescue mission I must be doing something wrong this happens every time

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:59:05 2020 No.12250529 >>12250523 Send a two stage lander, so you don't need to bring the fuel for your return journey down and up again from the moon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:00:40 2020 No.12250532 >>12250516 >stock market crashes >make selling illegal >??? >profit this is unironically what they did in March

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:01:47 2020 No.12250538

>>12250523
yeah I found several problems here
>1. consult a dV subway map and actually plan your mission instead of just yeeting skyward with reckless abandon
>2. install realism overhaul so you can ask us for help reaching space at all much less the moon

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:01:59 2020 No.12250540

>>12250497
This is more in line with what I think which is that probably totalitarianism in China is part of a negative cocktail that could harm innovation, but that it's far from conclusively proven that political freedom is necessary for innovation. China looks pretty damn innovative to me, and fucking hell, you have to give them credit for being where they are now after what Mao left behind. I think it's a catastrophic error to misunderstimate them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:03:16 2020 No.12250547 >>12250523 Just use a separate landing and ascent stage, makes it much easier to just dump the landing gear, empty fuel tanks and science experiments

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:03:16 2020 No.12250548 File: 38 KB, 474x664, OIP (24).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250540 >tfw someone misunderestimates the enemy near you

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:06:16 2020 No.12250559

>>12250532
Its just trip wire so people don't panic sell. This happens to both US stock market and the Chinese stock market. If the stocks are really bad, then trip wire won't do much except delay the inevitable. If its just purely emotional response, then the trip wire stops the emotional rollercoaster.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:06:52 2020 No.12250560 File: 391 KB, 437x480, 1385183819067.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250354 What are they even testing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:07:42 2020 No.12250563 >>12250560 Lunar lander sensors most recently

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:07:57 2020 No.12250564 >>12250560 How ferociously they can go slow and steady

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:11:28 2020 No.12250572

>>12250559
The trip wire (more often called a circuit breaker but whatever) fired repeatedly in March. What China did is different, they had a whole slew of rules and hard locks that basically make it impossible for the price of a stock to go down. On the NYSE the circuit breaker only trips after a 7% decline, halting for an hour, and then again at a 15% decline, halting for the day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:12:15 2020 No.12250576 >>12250560 Dude why the hell are they waiting? They could’ve flown people in 2016

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:13:04 2020 No.12250578 >>12250497 Pretty much, China is all about saving face and looking good, which is great for speculative banking and investment, but not so much for producing real quantifiable results.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:22:23 2020 No.12250611 >>12250576 better to be safe than sorry anon :)

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:22:39 2020 No.12250613

>>12250540
It's good not to underestimate the enemy but there is such a thing as overestimating them as well. This can be utilized as a tool (the brass uses it to keep up funding constantly), but more often it's a lazy bit of fearmongering used by doomers and it gets pretty tiring.
In any case we're very lucky that SpaceX specificially doesn't really rely on its material enemies for extrinsic motivation but on intrinsic motivation for the task. If it were the former, they would have rested on their laurels some time ago to the detriment of human spaceflight as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:25:05 2020 No.12250619 >>12250613 We've gotten here so far due to misunderestimation of China. Now they're building an ISS equivalent with blessings/partnerships from the ESA, the Russians and the third world countries.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:25:46 2020 No.12250620 >>12250611 >his company doesnt follow the "move fast and break things" motto ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:26:22 2020 No.12250621 File: 81 KB, 768x768, f16bcca8-2e2f-11e7-8928-05b245c57f03_1280x720_135127.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250548 Bush was easily the funniest prez I can remember

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:29:52 2020 No.12250632 >>12250578 I recall my Polish ex saying all Poles above a certain age are great liars because they had no choice

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:31:47 2020 No.12250640

>>12250619
>misunderestimation
Alright I gave you one motherfucker come on now
>Now they're building an ISS equivalent
That's not a point in their favor, kek. The ISS was and is an expensive boondoggle set up to absorb the spare industriousness of a large but poorly utilized space industry. It's kind of like the Buran: neat and all but at the end of the day you're copying the wrong homework.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:32:54 2020 No.12250643 >>12250499 someone redpill me on gateway

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:34:00 2020 No.12250649 >>12250643 The US government wants you to pay a Delta-V tax in space

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:41:04 2020 No.12250661 >>12250643 People call it a tax, but it will be useful for mission staging, as well as a longer missions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:48:32 2020 No.12250678 File: 142 KB, 1000x1000, 1ea4476a771bd875898ae3a63a4da278 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250643 this image says everything that needs to be said

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:54:41 2020 No.12250692

>>12250540
>China looks pretty damn innovative to me
lol no, they're soulless bug people who only ape "innovation" by stealing Western ideas.

t. software engineer who has to deal with chink bullshit in a field where they can't hide the bullshit behind national security theater

>>12250643
Its fuck-you orbit is designed so that Congress must keep funding moon/Mars capable rockets just to run supplies to the thing. It's financial engineering with the aerospace as a side effect, just like SLS.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:14:30 2020 No.12250738

>>12250476
>>12250480
Germany had already developed a scientific/research community way before the world wars. So the nazis just rode on their coattails. And the nazis didn't last for long enough to be a relevant case. Even Russia had intellectuals, some of which were smart enough to conform the commie regime and survived the revolution. But the last years of painful stagnation of the CCCP are the argument against totalitarian regimes. Turns out people want to be able to take credit and rewards for their efforts, and totalitarian regimes tend to reward political cronies while giving the credit to the state.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:20:41 2020 No.12250757 I got warned for a fucking joke. Why are mods such faggots?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:21:52 2020 No.12250761 >>12250757 >(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:22:48 2020 No.12250763 >>12250761 Jokes on you I'm using incognito mode.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:23:07 2020 No.12250765 >>12250757 what was the joke anon?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:24:04 2020 No.12250769

>>12250757
I saw a jannie in a thread on 4Chan yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him by posting choice copypasta that would result in a three day ban.

He said, "Oh, like you're doing now?"

I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Sneed?", but he kept saying "Global Rule 6" and doing things for free in front of my face. I closed the window and continued my shitposting, and I heard him seethe angrily through the internet. When I came to solve the Captcha I saw the jannie waiting to ban me with a few of my posts on his computer.

I was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Hey you fucking faggot, why don't you stop being such a fucking cocksucker?" At first he kept pretending that being a /tv/ jannie was a worthwhile use of his time, but eventually turned around and revealed that he was going to ban me for off-topic posting.

I started screaming autistically and began to appeal my ban, but the jannie called me a "fucking wagie" and told me to "have sex". I don't even think he's dilated recently. After he denied my appeal and started looking for other threads to ruin, he went over to his bull and started sucking his cock really loudly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:33:04 2020 No.12250791 >>12250692 At some point the CBO will ask why they aren't opening a competitive tender when Starship exists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:59:14 2020 No.12250861 >>12248888 DREAM ON, MARS MAN

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:12:01 2020 No.12250906 Boca road closures are now every night through the 26th

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:14:57 2020 No.12250916 File: 1.30 MB, 3617x5505, DSC_3331 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wow it looks retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:17:38 2020 No.12250923 >>12250916 her nose is BEAUTIFUL, goyim

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:17:57 2020 No.12250926 >>12250916 I’d expect nothing less.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:18:36 2020 No.12250928

>>12250270
Soon I hope. It's just a dream of mine, but obviously seeing Betelgeuse fucking eviscerate within our lifetime would be so kino. I pray that there is some weird coincidence where the next local star to go supernova has lots of telescopes coincidentally pointed at it so we can see the whole process from the very beginning in glorious HD.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:19:55 2020 No.12250930 >>12250270 seeing "SN" and mentioning antares blowing up made me think this was actually spaceflight-related for a second

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:20:35 2020 No.12250933 >>12250421 4ASS II: Nuclear Boogaloo

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:20:38 2020 No.12250934 File: 144 KB, 538x511, elong.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12248888 Dream On, Mars Man!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:21:07 2020 No.12250935 >>12249248 Just to see how it feels

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:22:53 2020 No.12250938 >>12250916 >a fucking tin can

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:23:47 2020 No.12250941 >>12250934 Involuntarily had me fooled anon; thumbnail kinda looks like Jack Ma

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:24:33 2020 No.12250943 >>12250916 It looks pretty cool actually, will look even better once its stacked onto SN8.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:25:06 2020 No.12250944 >>12250930 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:25:36 2020 No.12250946 >>12249233 Warsaw Pact featuring the NATO's

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:31:04 2020 No.12250955 File: 24 KB, 316x286, space pepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250916 Folks, this is where the magic happens. Incredible to finally have the real scale of the payload section in front of our eyes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:32:04 2020 No.12250959 So they did 2 preburner test last night/early this morning. Now tonight will be static fire test possibly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:34:24 2020 No.12250967 >>12250941 That's one interview I could never watch all the way through, and I watched ALL of the IAC 2016 Q/A

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:36:24 2020 No.12250976 >>12250967 The Musk/Ma panel that they did? I’m sure language barrier plays at least some role, but Ma seemed like a fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:02:31 2020 No.12251013 >>12248888 dream on mars man !

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:05:34 2020 No.12251017 >>12250976 Ma is absolutely retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:10:07 2020 No.12251025 >>12250916 How are they gonna make the cargo variant nose tho?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:15:20 2020 No.12251031 File: 3.68 MB, 3300x4434, IMG_9906.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250916 No way this works first try.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:16:18 2020 No.12251032 >>12251031 Looks a lot like the cupola module for the ISS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:16:39 2020 No.12251033 File: 102 KB, 1080x1080, SpaceX_Lunar_Starship_cutaway_diagram_by_Rocket_Posters_humanMars.net.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250916 >Here's your 1000m3 habitation section bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:21:15 2020 No.12251038 File: 375 KB, 960x538, 1589424907101.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >yfw Starship could do a 20km hop next week

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:21:21 2020 No.12251040 >>12251031 >ufo docking port what did they mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:23:51 2020 No.12251047 File: 478 KB, 1423x1068, 20201019_202214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This kills the Shelby

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:26:41 2020 No.12251053 File: 2.48 MB, 4608x3456, oancas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250916 new fins look objectively worse than on mk1. the absolute state of spacex right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:28:15 2020 No.12251056 >>12251047 >propellant d*pot THE CURSED WORD IT BURNS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:30:18 2020 No.12251063 >>12251053 Fins still need work but you are blind

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:33:05 2020 No.12251071 >>12251063 keep coping spacex stan, your precious mk1 fins are never coming back

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:40:12 2020 No.12251087 >>12250408 Us has abandoned metals long ago in hot sections china is chasing 1980-90 tech and it is seen in publications of tsinghua around SC

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:40:50 2020 No.12251089 >>12250967 Complete opposite here. I shrug off the Ma interview like some billionaire who doesn't really give a fuck. But that 2016 IAC? My body physically does not allow me to watch a minute of it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:43:31 2020 No.12251094 >>12251089 cringe works in mysterious ways

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:50:58 2020 No.12251118 >>12251053 looks don't get you into orbit and back fag

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:54:44 2020 No.12251126 >>12251071 ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:01:15 2020 No.12251147 File: 66 KB, 482x427, 1477060822571.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the fins were the last straw...now i can see spacex is well and truly finished...we're never leaving earth orbit...its time to...#BelieveInBoeing ...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:06:09 2020 No.12251157 File: 17 KB, 998x521, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12251053

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:09:02 2020 No.12251163 >>12251147 >#BelieveInBoeing #Don'tImmediatelyAssumePhonyElonRight

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:11:33 2020 No.12251172 >>12251118 >>12251126 >>12251157 so many texas tank watchers crawling out of the woodwork tonight haha

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:13:19 2020 No.12251178 >>12251172 Are you five years old?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:13:31 2020 No.12251179 >>12251172 lol

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:15:18 2020 No.12251189

>>12251053
The MK1's look like a fucking batarang, and are hanging by a thread. Yeah the new ones don't look perfect but I think if they keep this shape they will look better in the final form. Plus the only BAD thing about them is that weird downward angle at the bottom

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:19:11 2020 No.12251202 >>12251172 Imagine comparing the opposition's spaceship to a water tank and then losing to a fucking flying water tank.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:21:06 2020 No.12251207 File: 62 KB, 1280x720, starship horizontal flight.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250916

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:25:31 2020 No.12251220 Road closed due to nigs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:27:27 2020 No.12251224 >>12251172 ha tank nigga bank nigga fuck ya crank nigga niggas are so dank nigga a lank nigga he thank niggas bitches rankin niggas how the fuck this jankin nigga

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:27:47 2020 No.12251226 >>12250499 >Separate lander and descent

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:29:46 2020 No.12251232 >>12250499 which is why they got picked for >checks notes no HLS contracts

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:33:55 2020 No.12251244 >>12251025 I assume they just fucking BLAST water through the steel via a robotic arm in the inside of the nosecone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:50:49 2020 No.12251270 >>12251232 IIRC they didn't get picked because they proposed it BEFORE nasa asked for proposals and also it supposedly carries way more cargo than NASA wanted (so I'm surprised they went with starship which can land a metric fuckload)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 23:05:06 2020 No.12251301 >>12251270 sounds like lockheed wasnt serious if they never proposed it again lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 23:11:38 2020 No.12251319 >>12251301 I don't think you understand how NASA contracting works

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 23:19:40 2020 No.12251340 >>12251319 You can pitch existing programs for new contracts, literally see Starship for example. They've pitched it for anything they thought it had a slight chance of winning, even EELV.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 23:52:19 2020 No.12251414 >>12250967 Bro how could you not watch that mild cringe but handle the overwhelming cringestorm of that IAC Q&A.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:13:06 2020 No.12251452 Andrew with the dank video once again https://youtu.be/_xCsMBMqbx8 look at them use that good old fashioned alignment tool

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:15:09 2020 No.12251461 >>12251452 based and junkyardpilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:16:28 2020 No.12251467 >>12251414 i think i lost my tolerance for cringe in recent years

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:17:29 2020 No.12251468 >>12251452 Oldspace absolutely positively BTFO

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:20:40 2020 No.12251477 >>12251452 Geez that's a fucking sketchy looking operation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:26:46 2020 No.12251494 some venting down on the farm but the pad's still not cleared

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:30:12 2020 No.12251503 >>12251477 One might say, commercial space companies like SpaceX are reckless and are going to get people killed. The heroes would fight to stop SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:36:00 2020 No.12251519 >>12251503 Taking risks is good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:42:06 2020 No.12251535 File: 500 KB, 673x746, CONCERN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffaKVVzXWuw Uhhhh guys?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:43:18 2020 No.12251538 >>12251535 super old vid

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:45:48 2020 No.12251549 >>12250245 >an elliptical orbit around the sun. A hyperboloid is not elliptical

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:56:32 2020 No.12251578 >>12251535 It flew the same week

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:03:52 2020 No.12251603 File: 338 KB, 480x160, 1573072101264.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12250333 >interstellar travel demands that those doing the traveling must be in a vomiting or near-vomiting state

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:04:48 2020 No.12251606 >>12251603 80% sure tumbling would be unnoticeable to passengers

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:05:00 2020 No.12251608 File: 267 KB, 304x460, 81JO9vqIQQL._AC_SL1500_.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mikan no

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:06:32 2020 No.12251613 >>12251608 god i want to squeeze her oranges

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:08:11 2020 No.12251618 >>12251603 the pentagon confirmed aliens exist and crop circles are real. the whole pandemic is a cover for disclosure. rockets explode when they hit the dome

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:10:36 2020 No.12251621 how many falcon 9 heavies would it take to refuel a starship DEPOT STYLE

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:11:52 2020 No.12251625 >>12251621 1,200,000 kilograms of propellant divided by ~63,000 kilograms per launch, you do the math.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:14:47 2020 No.12251633 How long before Elon starts development of the penis tanker version of Starship (with the mushroom tip fairing)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:20:17 2020 No.12251645 File: 447 KB, 2019x1662, bfr2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw Falcon XX has same payload capacity as Starship with only 9 raptors on the first stage and almost half the thrust

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:24:09 2020 No.12251656 >>12251645 Yes, an expendable paper rocket gets as much payload as a fully reusable rocket with real world hardware to reference for mass estimates etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:34:33 2020 No.12251683 >>12251656 If I make it in KSP and reuse it, I expect an apology from you

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:42:37 2020 No.12251694 >>12251683 >>12251645 the Raptor in the Falcon XX has almost twice the thrust of the Raptor in the Starship design

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 01:44:58 2020 No.12251696 >>12251645 bfr when bros

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:02:56 2020 No.12251735 File: 326 KB, 2188x1232, 2020-09-24_19_25_54-2020_Annual_Shareholder_Meeting_and_Battery_Day_-_YouTube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Blocks your path

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:09:17 2020 No.12251754 >>12251735 heard that battery day was a disappointment musk losing money and starship cancellation soon

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:13:35 2020 No.12251767 >>12251754 I don't know why, the tech they've made is neat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:18:26 2020 No.12251778 File: 819 KB, 1122x633, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Siren has sounded. FIRING IMMINENT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:20:37 2020 No.12251786 >>12251754 It's only a disappointment to daytraders

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:22:14 2020 No.12251791 File: 64 KB, 500x669, 1545931746465.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just a fucking preburner starship is finished

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:27:45 2020 No.12251804 File: 981 KB, 1914x816, ITS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I miss it bros....aesthetic will never be topped

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:32:54 2020 No.12251820 File: 3.79 MB, 3300x4434, IMG_9906.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12251031 Fixed

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:34:10 2020 No.12251827 >>12251820 I bleve I can fly I bleve I can touch the sky

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:36:47 2020 No.12251835 File: 112 KB, 1280x720, 20201020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12251778

Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:39:04 2020 No.12251844

>>12251754
Big problem with Tesla/Evs were lithium supplies and cobalt supplies. Battery day was how to solve both IN SCALE in just 1-2 year. They already have a working solution, but it wasn't at scale. The day traders got butthurt Musk didn't hype up "lol we have million mile battery but will come in 2 years" instead he went the "we will have a mass scale battery operation in 2 years." By mass scale, I meant a path to producing 30-50% of world's lithium battery and becoming the largest battery company in the world, made locally in America. The path he laid for the next 10 years was immense to the point that if Tesla achieves even 5% of the scale of what they talked about, then they will be the #1 EV company in the world with 0 battery supply issue. If they reach 20% of their plan, then every EV company should start to commit suicide. If they reach 100% of their stated goals, well, lets just say Tesla will be producing couple trillion dollars in annual revenue alone and their stock will reflect multiple of that. And this is JUST the battery side of things. The scale/speed they're talking about is otherworly that many battery industry experts have claimed it might be impossible or truly herculean feat if Tesla manages to do even half of Tesla's plan. The big thing is, they're not re-inventing much. They've already re-invented it a year ago. They are simply talking about scale/speed now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:42:54 2020 No.12251851 >>12251754 the sois wanted a product event

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:45:03 2020 No.12251853 >>12251804 Whoever composed that track they use was a genius

Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:46:19 2020 No.12251856
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>>12251033
i just cant imagine people living in that shit for 9months or 3 years..Id totally fucking lose my mind. At least build a proper hab station with rotating disk to simulate gravity

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:48:45 2020 No.12251859 >>12251856 you don't know how big it is

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:53:33 2020 No.12251867 >>12251835 What was that, just woke up?

Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:57:37 2020 No.12251878

>>12251859
a couple of things that worry me about spacex's claims about going to mars. How will they deal with radiation shielding as i understand it, ISS is still protected by earths magnetic field.

The better solution would be to use spacex starship as a build platform for a larger ship like shown in the previous post and have government loan them a nuclear reactor for a ion thruster to cut down time from earth to mars from 9 months to maybe 6 months for radiation effects and then tow a starship along for descent and ascent to and from mars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:59:06 2020 No.12251880 >>12251867 Preburner test

Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:59:53 2020 No.12251883

>>12251878
>how do you deal with radiation from the sun?
not an issue unless it's a solar proton storm
in that case, everybody climbs into a storm shelter inside your water and food supplies and hunkers down for an hour or two
>how do you deal with cosmic radiation
go fast lmao, there is no protecting from cosmic rays aside from minimizing duration
SpaceX's plans on this are much more credible than NASA's plans

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 03:12:00 2020 No.12251902 File: 436 KB, 2048x1280, 1589619474715.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12251880 Hop when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 03:26:33 2020 No.12251915 strategic orbital propellant reserves

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 03:33:20 2020 No.12251922 >>12249332 Dr. Tranny?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 03:35:02 2020 No.12251928 They‘re recycling for the actual static fire now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 03:39:04 2020 No.12251941 >>12251928 maybe. NSF is speculating that because no one came back to the pad to make adjustments. But again, speculation.

Anonymous Tue Oct 20 03:47:48 2020 No.12251959

>>12251883
>go fast lmao, there is no protecting from cosmic rays aside from minimizing duration
This is the shit that infurates me about all the Youtube fags who say "we can't go to Mars because it's so dangerous".
It's like a 5% increased cancer risk throughout the rest of your life in order to go and begin colonization of another fucking planet. Anyone who is terrified of that isn't qualified to be going anywhere near a spacecraft. Suck it up, accept the risk, and then go and do the single most important thing a human being could be doing in current year.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:04:03 2020 No.12251983 >>12249678 What a good looking model there

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:05:32 2020 No.12251986 10 MINUTES SIREN ALERT

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:14:08 2020 No.12251999 >>12251986 woosh

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:14:36 2020 No.12252001 Static fire success

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:14:53 2020 No.12252003 Oh shit I thought it exploded there at first

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:15:17 2020 No.12252004 New thread fags

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:15:56 2020 No.12252005 FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHH FUCKING BRAP IN MY FACE SN8-CHAAAN

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:16:10 2020 No.12252006 >>12252003 Imagine 30 Raptors in SuperHeavy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:16:27 2020 No.12252007 I don't know about you but the sound reminded me of 1954 gozilla's roar

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:17:10 2020 No.12252008 >>12252003 the sound was extremely impressive >>12252006 that would take care of their boomer problem. And everything else in the vicinity

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:17:16 2020 No.12252009 File: 313 KB, 2560x1440, firefox_2020-10-20_03-16-34.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:21:05 2020 No.12252013 >>12252009 Has it exploded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:21:28 2020 No.12252014 >>12252013 no

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:22:03 2020 No.12252015 >>12252013 no, that's what happens when you don't manually set your camera's ISO/aperture

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:22:09 2020 No.12252016 File: 1.09 MB, 1339x1256, firefox_2020-10-20_03-21-54.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12252013

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:23:14 2020 No.12252017 >>12252009 THE SUN RISES

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:24:45 2020 No.12252019 >>12252015 Honestly it was way better than the NSF stream where it just looked like any other static fire.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:24:48 2020 No.12252020 >>12252013 It exploded into the turbo pumps and out the nozzles. I wish we could somehow harness this accidental occurrence for propulsion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:25:43 2020 No.12252021 File: 1.56 MB, 1948x1096, 1590250635082.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what do you guys think that weird metallic groan was at the end? The stand being pushed to near-failure?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:25:44 2020 No.12252022 >>12252013 yes, spaceX is finished

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:25:49 2020 No.12252023 >>12252020 Unfortunately that would never work in space since the propellant would have nothing to push against.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:26:28 2020 No.12252025 >>12252021 do you mean the seal bark or...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:28:47 2020 No.12252027 >>12252021 My understanding is that it was the turbopumps running out of fuel to pump. The other static fires made similar noises.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:29:30 2020 No.12252029 File: 712 KB, 952x534, flop.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We're so close bros

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:29:46 2020 No.12252030 >>12252027 I‘m not an expert on this but I recall hearing that turbopumps running dry was pretty terrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:31:05 2020 No.12252031 >>12252030 The turbopumps pump fuel. What do you expect them to pump once the fuel is gone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:34:17 2020 No.12252036 >>12252029 Won't happen in our lifetimes. Elon is a hack

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:34:41 2020 No.12252037 File: 43 KB, 600x637, 1484892029937.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >That shut-down sound

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:37:23 2020 No.12252040 >>12252023 Ah, damn, good thing you were here to point this out now or we would‘ve embarked on a 60 year endeavor sending approximately 567 people to space using this before reality caught up to us and we realized we were just fooling ourselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:37:24 2020 No.12252041 >>12252031 are the lines not sloshed?

Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:38:31 2020 No.12252043
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>>12252030
I was wondering the same. With any luck they're not retarded and didn't damage the engines

This infrared stream was pretty neat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss_XUaLEp1Y

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:41:11 2020 No.12252046 >>12252037 it's the bad noise, yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:41:19 2020 No.12252048 >>12252043 I recall SN4 making the same noise multiple times and then went on to fire again. In which case let's just hope the noise isn't GSE related.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:43:59 2020 No.12252051 https://twitter.com/austinbarnard45/status/1318470483998871552

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:45:32 2020 No.12252052 >>12248829 jello babies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:47:35 2020 No.12252055 >>12252021 Pump spin-down amplified by the engine nozzle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:47:53 2020 No.12252057 >>12252052 that's not an /sfg/ meme, that's older than this general that's like saying longcat is the oldest /sfg/ meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:48:23 2020 No.12252058 >>12250738 Have you seen the way US tech giants are going? Freedom is dying in the West also

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:49:36 2020 No.12252060 >>12248829 Brain meme about production quality maybe?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:49:46 2020 No.12252061 File: 130 KB, 1625x838, 1600818401239.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12252023 BEHOLD

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:50:48 2020 No.12252065 >>12252061 Wouldn‘t work without the shark teeth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:54:06 2020 No.12252070 >>12252009 >causing massive irreversible ecological disruption in protected areas >expelling large amounts of toxic co2 gas and methane NATIONALIZE. NOW!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 04:57:39 2020 No.12252074 Preburn and static from LabPadre https://youtu.be/FLZFMaJsxYM

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:05:42 2020 No.12252080 So they‘ll take this thing off the pad, weld the nose on and move it back to the pad. Flight next week?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:06:24 2020 No.12252082 >>12252080 give it a couple weeks but yeah

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:07:25 2020 No.12252083 >>12252080 They'll most likely take the nosecone to the pad and bold it on then static fire like tomorrow or the next day then sometime next week is the flight. If I had to hazard a guess I would put a flight at next Monday at the latest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:21:59 2020 No.12252099 >>12252083 I'd put a flight next monday at the absolute earliest. I'm guessing the flight will happen sometime in early november.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:24:09 2020 No.12252103 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86UIK6JpfQk I was looking up old videos of previous SN numbers doing static fires and this came up lmao

Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:33:48 2020 No.12252116

>>12252103
Such a strange couple. She's pretty successful and well-off herself so it's not really a money or status play, and her vibe is almost a polar opposite to Elon's. It's like he got bored of the pretty blondes so he went in an entirely different direction for the hell of it

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:34:11 2020 No.12252118 >>12252103 he sure loves his cameos

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:34:48 2020 No.12252120 >>12252021 Might be the infamous 600hz resonance problem they've been having on hoppy and reportedly fixed, but maybe not really. A good indication will be if they take engine down for inspection.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:54:55 2020 No.12252144 Thread has staged. Ignition: >>12252141 >>12252141 >>12252141

Anonymous Tue Oct 20 06:06:00 2020 No.12252170

>>12249054
lmao oldspace industry really sucked
Imagine all people that will lose jobs because now SpaceX manufacturing is all internal with minimal outsourcing.
Not saying it is a negative thing tho. Let the rotten carcass of the past be surpassed by the future.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 06:09:30 2020 No.12252176 >>12249203 the volume actually occupied by these satellites is actually incredibly small compared to the available spherical volume.

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