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/sfg/ - Space Flight General: MS-17 Edition Anonymous Tue Oct 13 16:55:52 2020 No.12227767 [Reply] [Original]

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Soyuz MS-17 named "Favor" by the crew of Sergei Ryzhikov, Sergei Kud-Sverchkov and Kate Rubins will have liftoff in T-9 hours.

This will most likely be the final Soyuz mission carrying American astronauts and will also use an experimental Express Ascent profile, reaching the ISS in just 3 hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 16:57:50 2020 No.12227779 File: 260 KB, 1036x640, 1602622278307.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:00:10 2020 No.12227785 >>12227767 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl0QDkAwxWY So /sfg/, what is the ugliest rocket?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:01:31 2020 No.12227790 >>12227785 N1

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:02:17 2020 No.12227792 File: 99 KB, 852x1200, 8AFCC613-6315-4B39-9A4D-91CF1C49BF9F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227767 >Rage, rage against the dying of the light

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:02:28 2020 No.12227793 >>12227785 the STS was beautiful in its ugliness

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:04:36 2020 No.12227803 File: 34 KB, 420x1001, russian TSTO.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Say something nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:04:56 2020 No.12227805 >>12227785 I'd say Long march 4c

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:06:41 2020 No.12227810 File: 578 KB, 1857x711, KSP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any KSP bros have the Real Exoplanets mod? How the fuck do I plot a couse to TRAPPIST-1?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:09:45 2020 No.12227824 >>12227792 >it will never fly

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:10:53 2020 No.12227827 >>12227824 of course it wont, it blew up in february

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:12:32 2020 No.12227834 Reminder to bash the fash

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:13:59 2020 No.12227841 >>12227834 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:14:21 2020 No.12227843 >>12227834 shut.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:15:27 2020 No.12227850 File: 25 KB, 300x194, Apu vasaroi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227834 I'll bash you fag

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:15:38 2020 No.12227852 File: 31 KB, 640x328, white.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227834

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:16:55 2020 No.12227856
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>>12227785
I would have thought atlas-able easily but hullo makes a good case for Arianne 4. Asymmetric strap-ons remind me too much of trying to scramble and save a bad rocket design in stock ksp.

>>12227790
no

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:17:42 2020 No.12227860 >>12227834 Good way to derail a thread from the start you retarded piece of shit. Reported.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:18:16 2020 No.12227865 >>12227852 >>12227850 >>12227843 >>12227841 you guys always fall for the most obvious bait. You're easier to troll than redditors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:18:51 2020 No.12227866 File: 80 KB, 975x1024, NotRealCommunism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227834 As long as we also get to bomb the coms

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:20:19 2020 No.12227871 >>12227865 i don't know how much /sfg/ blue origin shilling is me fishing for (you)s but it's more than half

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:22:08 2020 No.12227880 File: 177 KB, 767x750, 1588787046541.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227785 >The scud missile rocket >"it looks like it failed, possibly because the separation system fired early, or it lost the will to live"

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:24:29 2020 No.12227889
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So after binge reading Wikipedia,

Is anyone else alarmed by the fact that SRB's emit concentrated hydrochloric acid as exhaust?

Is no one else concerned with the long term environmental impact?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:25:45 2020 No.12227895 >>12227889 if it kills SLS i'll pretend to care, sure

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:27:01 2020 No.12227900 >>12227889 It's exactly the thing what killed Ares

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:29:14 2020 No.12227912 >>12227889 Fuck the environment

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:30:32 2020 No.12227916 >>12227889 fuck off newfag quit posting bad images of my wife Jahy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:31:36 2020 No.12227919 >>12227810 just wait for kip 2 lol also, is the real exoplanets mod an RO/RP1 add-on (real scale) or is it tiny scale

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:32:48 2020 No.12227925 >>12227834 the femboy fascists on twitter would like that

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:34:08 2020 No.12227931 File: 167 KB, 879x485, Screen-Shot-2020-10-13-at-1.15.11-PM-879x485[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://spacenews.com/ulas-tory-bruno-argues-for-u-s-investments-in-the-production-of-fuel-in-space/ SFG IT'S DEPOT TIME

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:34:25 2020 No.12227934 >>12227767 Europa Clipper is still REQUIRED BY LAW to fly on SLS even though it could launch much cheaper on Falcon Heavy! https://www.supercluster.com/editorial/europa-clipper-inches-forward-shackled-to-the-earth Tell your friends about this madness!

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:35:45 2020 No.12227939
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>>12227767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X9A6jaI0jI
>vice documentary about evil elon kicking people out of their homes
>Chad spacex moves to Boca Chica to send people to Mars
>Chad local politicians need every shekel they can get so they love spacex
>seething boomers living in a hovel with no sewage and 12 square feet seething because Elon offered them 3x the value of their "home" to move

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:35:46 2020 No.12227940 >>12227931 >Hydrogen Invest in it yourself, Tory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:38:51 2020 No.12227951 >>12227934 in the latest spending bill amended it so that it only had to launch on sls if available (and everyone knows it won't be available)

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:40:57 2020 No.12227957 >>12227934 NASA is also required by law to develop SLS. Congress did it that way after the Obama administration canned Constellation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:46:10 2020 No.12227979 File: 6 KB, 163x310, Без названия.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227803 Ayyy. http://www.astronautix.com/n/n1-mok.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:47:39 2020 No.12227986 File: 39 KB, 400x343, reusable_s-1c01.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 1/3

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:47:47 2020 No.12227988

>>12227931
>ULA has hinted it would consider building a three-stage “Vulcan Heavy” rocket, a much larger version of the single-core Vulcan Centaur that ULA is developing and expects to debut next year.

what would be the point of that? it'd still have one fewer be-4 than new glenn and a weaker upper stage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:48:41 2020 No.12227993 File: 43 KB, 400x285, reusable_s-1c02.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227986 2/3

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:49:42 2020 No.12227998 File: 32 KB, 400x292, reusable_s-1c03.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227993 3/3

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:52:41 2020 No.12228010 >>12227785 >he thinks the deathstick is ugly opinions discarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:55:35 2020 No.12228025 File: 14 KB, 350x350, unnamed.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's up with globe fairing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:57:16 2020 No.12228034 File: 133 KB, 813x900, Russian church.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228025 >orthodox wet workshop church

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:00:55 2020 No.12228047 File: 33 KB, 480x170, zlklek2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Invasion of soviet space bugs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:02:01 2020 No.12228051 >>12227810 Use the warp drive and just target it. Any engine that can actually get you there within a century is not much more realistic anyways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:16:02 2020 No.12228097 File: 111 KB, 1065x600, lk-700.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228047 The LK-700 is such a bizarre design. I kinda wish the Soviets went for it over the puny N1 LK lander

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:20:06 2020 No.12228103
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Here's three upcoming livestreams from Roscosmos:

Launch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdZs4ZnIJOU

Docking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WismP5JMfIA

The opening of the hatches:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1JlJGsrZbU

If successfull, this will be the fastest manned launch to docking in history.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:23:09 2020 No.12228111 >>12228103 It'll be so cool if this ascent profile will become standard. Then we'll finally have quick cargo deliveries to anywhere in orbit

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:30:37 2020 No.12228136 File: 377 KB, 2048x1536, noseconeflaps.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] flaps on nosecone

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:31:03 2020 No.12228139 >>12227889 >Is no one else concerned with the long term environmental impact? The faggots who whine about "planetary protection" don't seem to care.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:35:28 2020 No.12228146 >>12227889 Hydrochloric acid is fucking everywhere

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:36:30 2020 No.12228148 >>12228136 I'm fucking READY

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:38:17 2020 No.12228153 >>12228136 It's going to be beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:42:07 2020 No.12228161 >>12228136 >tin foil fundraising prop

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:42:11 2020 No.12228162 >>12227889 All the reasons why SRBs are stupid and you picked this one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:43:01 2020 No.12228166 >>12227834 based :) im ridin' with biden

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:43:28 2020 No.12228167 >>12228136 Which SN is that for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:44:01 2020 No.12228168 >>12228136 Are they gonna bring back SN8 to put nosecone? Or is the nosecone gonna go to launchpad and a crane will put it right there?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:45:13 2020 No.12228170 >https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-20-1187A2.pdf Starlink qualifies for FCC rural broadband low latency funds

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:45:26 2020 No.12228171 >>12228167 Snate

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:45:51 2020 No.12228174 >>12228168 we don't know

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:46:34 2020 No.12228175 >>12228171 SN Feed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:46:59 2020 No.12228180 >>12227939 it's so very based, favorite comedy of the year. thank u vice

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:47:20 2020 No.12228182 >>12228136 They still need to add a few ring segments on the bottom to get the full payload faring, correct? Honestly with that dude for scale the whole "100 people to Mars" thing sounds a lot less absurd.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:47:45 2020 No.12228184 >>12228175 SNeed

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:48:51 2020 No.12228189 >>12228182 yes, 100 people still sounds insane to me, but i think 30-40 is possible

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:49:43 2020 No.12228194 >>12228184 Elon Chuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:50:40 2020 No.12228198 >>12228170 dabbed

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:51:48 2020 No.12228201 >>12228170 Canadian service when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:52:00 2020 No.12228202 File: 49 KB, 532x360, fcc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228170 SpaceX will likely bid on Baseline and low latency. Maybe above baseline as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:52:02 2020 No.12228203 >>12227785 shuttlestack and shuttlestack-derived rockets

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:52:14 2020 No.12228204 >>12228170 SWAG

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:52:47 2020 No.12228208 >>12228189 If they manage to pack 20-25 in that fucker and they don't end up killing one another on the journey, it'll be a marvelous success.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:53:03 2020 No.12228209 File: 456 KB, 1920x1277, 1920px-STS-134_solid_rocket_booster_segment_stacking.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] god damn casting that much APCP must be a pain

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:53:29 2020 No.12228213 >>12228170 The Starlink IPO cannot get here fast enough. I'm a zoomer and I think it's going to buy me a few rental properties. I just need to build up some more funds in the next few years so I can really take advantage of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:53:32 2020 No.12228214 >>12228189 I doubt they'll actually do 100, but that nosecone is already fucking massive and a few more rings on the bottom will probably double the volume. 100 sounds possible if a bit cramped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:56:25 2020 No.12228222 >>12228201 When Rogers' checks start bouncing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:02:08 2020 No.12228244 File: 50 KB, 500x634, space_shuttle_white_tank.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228203 >shuttlestack >ugly

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:02:27 2020 No.12228246 >>12228202 >https://www.soumu.go.jp/main_content/000691586.pdf SpaceX is applying for Japanese marketshare where they claimed it would offer 350Mb down/150Mb up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:03:29 2020 No.12228250 File: 24 KB, 500x362, cat like readiness.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Keeping myself in a state of cat-like readiness for Dragon launch. Fingers crossed that Dragon explosion isn't the next Fuck You of 2020.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:05:07 2020 No.12228253 >>12228244 >literally 1 (one (1)) flight without orangetank Yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:05:58 2020 No.12228255 >>12228047 The one thing I really appreciate in the cheesy horror flick Apollo 18 is that it gives screen time to the LK lander as a prop/environment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:09:01 2020 No.12228259 >>12228250 who cares if ut blows up? launch escape haha let's goooooooo

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:10:07 2020 No.12228262 File: 3.81 MB, 500x640, DMcpAc1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228244 U G L E H

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:10:11 2020 No.12228263 >>12228250 Don't worry, I bribed the Boing sniper with cost-plus twinkies.

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:13:42 2020 No.12228265
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>Navajo rocket second config (the brazed wall 90% ethanol one)
>XLR-11 third config (the X-15 one)
>AJ10-27 upper stage
>this dumb stack of random rockets actually got to orbit

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:16:59 2020 No.12228273

>>12228136
https://twitter.com/JeffGreason/status/1316104866960375811?s=19
>Have to say that looks a bit like a supersonic panel flutter risk; the tank skins have positive curvature and internal pressure to stabilize them; the fin skins don't and that looks like a long way between ribs.
Sorry fags, this fin doesn't pass the smell test. Space-X is a fraud

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:17:48 2020 No.12228275 >>12228262 Based uglehposter

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:19:32 2020 No.12228278 >>12228246 always had the impression that the japs are protectionist as fuck when it comes to their industries

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:19:51 2020 No.12228280 File: 93 KB, 600x462, bimodalNTR09.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:20:26 2020 No.12228284 >>12228255 Escaping the moon in an abandoned lander is a cool scifi idea, I liked that too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:20:58 2020 No.12228287 File: 127 KB, 272x700, SASSTO03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SASSTO when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:21:12 2020 No.12228289 >>12228278 Not really. Japanese just can produce many things on their own, they're one of the only countries on earth that can match the western industries. Even while their economy is downturn, its still a giant on its own.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:21:54 2020 No.12228292 File: 58 KB, 994x804, rombus3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228287 ROMBUS O M B U S

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:27:17 2020 No.12228302 >>12228287 >single ass to orbit

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:28:01 2020 No.12228303 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1vKMTYa40A when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:32:29 2020 No.12228310 File: 99 KB, 600x447, laserLaunch03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] laser launch when

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:34:17 2020 No.12228313 https://twitter.com/LeoLabs_Space/status/1316147305125490694?s=19 Spacebros... We got too cocky...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:35:11 2020 No.12228317 File: 77 KB, 350x515, based.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228310

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:37:04 2020 No.12228321 >>12228313 >chinese upper stage and old russian sat collision in 1K altitude LEO We need de-orbiting satellites to help guide/push them into proper burning orbit or dumping them into sea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:44:05 2020 No.12228331 File: 24 KB, 310x760, 1579824436119.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228136 Based

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:45:54 2020 No.12228335 >>12228280 That would be fucking awesome for Spaceplanes, a proper (40ish TW/R) NTR with Hydrolox density would be awesome. Though Methane/lox would probably be better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:46:33 2020 No.12228337 >>12228136 Ah yes, soon I will be able to COOOM

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:50:02 2020 No.12228340 >>12228213 >Starlink IPO didn't they end up keeping it a part of spaceX instead of spinning it off into it's own thing? And spaceX isn't going public anytime soon if ever soo

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:52:19 2020 No.12228343 >>12228278 Makes sense when you are known for your high technology companies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:52:21 2020 No.12228344 File: 161 KB, 710x627, 369A94434EC8452ABB16475E93C26EFF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228313 Yeah that would be 2020 alright

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:53:19 2020 No.12228346 >>12228287 This thing was based. Imagine launching them during the Cold War with a pair of SEALS with M16s towards Russian stations. Kino.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:53:37 2020 No.12228348 >>12228321 If Starship works you can start a garbage company.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:54:01 2020 No.12228351 >>12228340 Musk says that Starlink will spin off to IPO once it has a stable revenue stream, and that retail investors will have priority before institutional.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:55:17 2020 No.12228353 File: 34 KB, 768x384, Rikhter_R-23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228346 Я бы нe coвeтoвaл, кaпитaлиcтичecкaя cвинья.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:56:10 2020 No.12228356 >>12228321 What we should actually do is build a MEO trashmoon so we're not wasting orbital mass and have a nice big ball of refined materials to use later

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:05:30 2020 No.12228386 File: 517 KB, 1911x1079, Screenshot_20201013-170359_YouTube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Based Jim and friends sign the Artemis Accords https://youtu.be/-jRmk81OCjo

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:06:23 2020 No.12228389 >>12228386 bros why is his face shaped like that

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:08:00 2020 No.12228394 >>12228356 >What are graveyard orbits?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:29:08 2020 No.12228459 File: 3 KB, 360x62, msedge_WGdt0ELlr3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wat is this

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:32:00 2020 No.12228475 https://www.heavens-above.com/CloseEncounterDetails.aspx?satid1=36123&satid2=19826&mjd=59138.0393607407&lat=0&lng=0&loc=Unspecified&alt=0&tz=UCT 25 mins to conjunction bros

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:37:46 2020 No.12228504 GOD BLESS OUTER SPACE

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:37:51 2020 No.12228505 >>12228386 Is it me, or is Jim's size increasing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:40:13 2020 No.12228513 >>12228505 Sizable Jim

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:42:28 2020 No.12228519 File: 3.27 MB, 4109x5137, Jimantha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228389 He has the face of a kid on the body of a man. Looks like his nickname should be Beaver. >>12228386 >uae Yuck!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:43:46 2020 No.12228524 >>12228475 I didn't realize one of them was retrograde, ofuk

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:45:07 2020 No.12228533 BROS did you see that wobble at the end of the New Shepard landing? https://twitter.com/i/status/1316046059454582785 Not looking good, Jeff...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:46:54 2020 No.12228540 >>12228475 they wont hit, it's a nothingburger as usual

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:48:46 2020 No.12228543 >>12228540 They’ll hit and then smash into Europe and kill off white people ITS OVER WHITE BOI

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:56:40 2020 No.12228573 File: 189 KB, 800x1045, 800px-Jim_Bridenstine,_official_portrait,_113th_Congress.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] conjunction has conjuncted bros

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:56:48 2020 No.12228574 >>12228543 :'^(

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:58:43 2020 No.12228580 HOLY SHIT THEY COLLIDED FUCK FUCK FUCK NO

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 20:58:47 2020 No.12228581 File: 286 KB, 1617x1355, jimwtf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228519 >Looks like his nickname should be Beaver

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:06:22 2020 No.12228600 File: 157 KB, 791x1023, 29505043481_5dbc818a4b_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227785 he's wrong about Ares I

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:06:34 2020 No.12228601 File: 2.40 MB, 4160x2340, KIMG0034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227834 As someone who saw what a spare Skylab actually looked like in person, fuck off tankie

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:09:25 2020 No.12228612 When is the SN8 gonna do a burn?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:10:26 2020 No.12228619 >>12228601 imagine building an entire space station and not even launching it the absolute state of americans

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:12:17 2020 No.12228626 File: 1.49 MB, 1161x893, jimeyes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228619 the apollo generation boomers were retarded, but now we have someone more powerful than any of them

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:13:33 2020 No.12228627 >>12228573 >>12228540 oh wait its on the fucking 16th nigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:14:30 2020 No.12228630 File: 1.64 MB, 1260x720, Skylab.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:15:24 2020 No.12228633 File: 452 KB, 767x650, 1602125573747.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228627 as i said, they wont hit, it's a nothingburger as usual

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:15:35 2020 No.12228634 File: 2.54 MB, 960x720, Skylab2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:16:06 2020 No.12228636 >>12228386 >the outer space treaty is over 50 years old >but it doesn't look a day over 35 god bless this man

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:16:45 2020 No.12228637 >>12228634 when some1 tells you wet workshops are gay, post this and watch them squirm

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:19:32 2020 No.12228641 File: 363 KB, 1226x1550, sbgtsbggbt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228619 Yeah, who would ever build a space station and not launch it? Definitely not the Soviets!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:22:53 2020 No.12228651 >>12228637 Skylab was a dry workshop built from tankage on the ground

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:23:02 2020 No.12228652 >>12228619 Imagine not landing a man in the moon haha

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:24:20 2020 No.12228654 Which waifu rips the stinkiest farts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:25:00 2020 No.12228657 File: 59 KB, 987x662, jimsurge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:25:04 2020 No.12228658 >>12228654 Big Jim

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:26:41 2020 No.12228663 File: 51 KB, 660x440, D9F8A341-2AE0-4EF6-8560-531AC6E909CA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228654 Starship

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:29:01 2020 No.12228667 >>12228654 your mom i fucked last night

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:29:44 2020 No.12228670 File: 544 KB, 2953x3508, 1500183229666.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228202 >datacaps

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:39:53 2020 No.12228702 How precise can they get with a New Shepard landing? Was watching the video as I missed it live and looks like it lands pretty slowly, but I also didn't see any sway or movement at all, pretty perfect looking hover

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:41:57 2020 No.12228707 >>12228702 New shepard was designed by the same people who did the DC-X, which is why it lands in the same short hover way as opposed to the falcon 9s suicide burn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:49:10 2020 No.12228729 >>12228670 >250gb monthly at minimum >this is somehow a problem How do sane people even use that much. Stop downloading porn you fucking dick chopped tranny.

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:49:27 2020 No.12228730
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>>12227785
>shit talks Proton
what
>shit talks Arex-X
..W-What??
>shit talks Navajo supsersonic ramjet nuke rocket
HULLO NOOOOOOO

As a side note I did not know about that V-2 test where the range safety officer was literally restrained by a rocket designer lmao. The germans are fucking awesome; they just wanted their data

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:54:45 2020 No.12228740 >>12228730 Proton is awesome and Ares I was incredibly Kino. If I made this I’d shit on ISRO for painting their rockets brown (Lel) and China for being chinese

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:55:07 2020 No.12228742 What's more likely for the next generation of vacuum engines? Nuclear engines, or high powered argon ion engines?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:56:47 2020 No.12228749 >>12228742 PLASMA SAILS

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:56:58 2020 No.12228751 >>12228729 >How do sane people even use that much A lot of modern games are bigger than that.

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 21:58:53 2020 No.12228755

>>12228742
Hard to tell, nuclear engines are of course radiation hazards by nature and the pussies who run governments for some reason don't want them hurtling through space at half a dozen kilometers per second, ion engines are only workable with solar in the inner solar system so for shots to Mars and further they'll be much slower until powered with small compact nuclear reactors. MDPs at least can be used without nuclear power supplies though so I think they'll become commonplace first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:01:26 2020 No.12228759 >>12228751 What the fuck when did this happen, I haven't been a gamer for a while now but the last games I remember were like maybe 10-20gb. Someone needs to get their pajeet programmers under control, quarter terabyte for a video game is just absurd.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:02:22 2020 No.12228760 >>12228755 I guess then either way nuclear power is involved. MDPs? I can only find unrelated stuff if I look up the acronym.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:02:32 2020 No.12228761 >>12228759 The latest call of duty is going on 300 now

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:03:16 2020 No.12228762 >>12228759 You can also use hundreds of gigabytes if you watch hours of YouTube every day. It’s pretty easy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:07:37 2020 No.12228770 >>12228761 How is that even possible for a fucking fps game, that's insane.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:08:32 2020 No.12228771 >>12228760 Woops, meant MPD's, Magneto-Plasma Dynamic rockets. Basically anything that uses electricity to shoot out a jet of ionized gas. Hall-effect thrusters, VASIMR, AEPS for LOPG when it's ready, Bepiscolumbo's propulsion system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:08:55 2020 No.12228773 >>12228770 Same reason oldspace charged so much for so long. When you have guaranteed theres no incentive to do things well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:09:57 2020 No.12228777 >>12228770 Same reason oldspace charged so much for so long. When you have guaranteed income theres no incentive to do things well.

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:13:57 2020 No.12228793

>>12228770
It’s because of the intense graphics, mostly, and there’s not a huge reason to optimize for storage space since computers with plenty of storage aren’t uncommon either. Modern 2D games like Carrion or Terraria are still in the Mb range or a handful of Gb

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:14:20 2020 No.12228795

>>12228730
>https://www.whiteeagleaerospace.com/the-hermes-ii-incident/
>The WSPG Range Safety Officer(RSO) had both the authority and responsibility to hit the destruct button once it was obvious that the Hermes II was errant. However, a project scientist physically restrained the RSO from doing so! Apparently, the scientist was of the (evidently strong) opinion that the test vehicle’s propellant load should not be wasted on such trivial grounds as the safety of the El Paso populace.
HOLY BASED

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:15:56 2020 No.12228798 >>12228793 >intense grafixxx You mean uncompressed textures. There's noooo fucking reason a yearly FPS should be bigger than RDR2

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:16:35 2020 No.12228800 >>12228654 UDMH waifus

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:19:22 2020 No.12228804

>>12228730
>A member of the team of expatriated German scientists who conducted the Hermes II flight test later was quoted as saying: “We were the first German unit to not only infiltrate the United States, but to attack Mexico from US soil!” Not nearly so amused, the Army tightened-up range safety protocol at WSPG in the aftermath of the international incident.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:22:18 2020 No.12228810 >>12228630 >Starship will be 3 meters wider than this AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:23:42 2020 No.12228813 File: 111 KB, 649x625, 1596161201537.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228810 >meters

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:26:04 2020 No.12228820 >>12228755 Still, Dawn made it out to Ceres on a photovoltaic-powered ion engine, and the upcoming probe to Psyche is planned to function similarly.

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:36:16 2020 No.12228853

>>12228820
True, but it only weighs 1.2 tons, and it's propulsive power is cut to one tenth of it's starting level at 3AUs distance from Sol.
It's final mission time was measured as 11 years, 1 month, 5 days, unacceptably long for any kind of efficient manned flights. Even for a probe I would judge it to be a grossly inefficient expenditure of resources.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:37:39 2020 No.12228859 >>12228820 You can get pretty far with solar panels. Is you use the new 25 kW panels on the Gateway (50 kW in total) you can operate Dawn at Jupiter, or Cassini at Saturn (on solar)

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:39:02 2020 No.12228865 File: 142 KB, 1000x1202, t. coade.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] redpill me on the differences for calculating total dv for a big tanker ladder vs staging t. sleep deprived

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:40:41 2020 No.12228869 >>12228865 and assuming you're just scuttling the tankers after transferring fuel to keep things simple instead of returning them

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:45:35 2020 No.12228883 >>12228729 The absolute state of americans defending this

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:49:48 2020 No.12228892

>>12228865
you're going to have to overcome your sleep deprivation to say what you're asking more clearly.

if you just mean the delta v difference of refueling via a tanker ladder vs. launching one giant staging rocket then a tanker ladder is necessarily going to take at least as much

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:57:04 2020 No.12228905 >>12228136 When are they going to make them actually look nice instead of looking like dented up cheap tin fitted by Mexicans?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:59:05 2020 No.12228907 >>12228905 2100 for the yacht models

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:00:00 2020 No.12228909 >>12228905 Never, cabrón.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:00:11 2020 No.12228911 >>12228654 Kate Tice

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:02:06 2020 No.12228914 >>12228883 The absolute state of Afghani tribesmen who dont use the Internet

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:08:45 2020 No.12228927 >>12228905 elon said "soon" so probably SN10 or SN11 I'm guessing

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:10:01 2020 No.12228930 File: 67 KB, 645x576, hola.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228905 Tu sucio gringo no sabría clase si te cogiera por el culo

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:12:01 2020 No.12228936 What's the easiest way to set up Starship style controls in KSP? I've got procedural everything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:12:08 2020 No.12228937 >>12228911 I could eat her shit she's so fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:15:08 2020 No.12228943 >>12228702 >>12228707 I'm spit balling here, but wouldn't hovering make it more susceptible to getting fucked by winds? I feel that a gust as it is hovering will have more of an effect vs a sudden hoverslam.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:19:14 2020 No.12228954 >>12228943 It also uses more fuel than a suicide burn too. In general I think blue origins way of doing things is worse than spacex but I will admit the new shepards legs are way cooler than the falcon 9s.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:21:49 2020 No.12228959 >>12228954 Nope they’re worse SpaceX is the best

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:23:22 2020 No.12228962 >>12228954 If you watch today's landing, the legs wobble and and almost look close to snapping

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:23:27 2020 No.12228963 File: 3.18 MB, 2326x1550, sfg ring.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In commemoration of the soon-to-be constructed SN8, let's add memes to this steel ring.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:23:29 2020 No.12228964 File: 162 KB, 900x1200, New_Shepard_OSH2017RK_09.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228959 New shepards landing legs are fucking kino you tasteless nigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:24:57 2020 No.12228969 >>12228964 I hope SpaceX Starship's landing legs look like this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:25:10 2020 No.12228972 >>12228964 They suck SpaceX is awesome I love Elon HES so cool

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:26:00 2020 No.12228976 >>12228964 They seem more complicated compared to the falcon

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:26:25 2020 No.12228977 File: 177 KB, 515x450, chooChoo02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:26:28 2020 No.12228978 >>12228963 needs dolphin sex

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:27:27 2020 No.12228982 >>12228964 they dont look very sturdy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:27:53 2020 No.12228985 File: 103 KB, 1556x864, mspaintdolphin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228963 Add tranhumanist dolphin GF

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:29:35 2020 No.12228989 >>12228136 Indeed, those are called nose flaps

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:31:26 2020 No.12228994 File: 54 KB, 1280x720, chinese space program landing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228985 what the fuck >https://youtu.be/3escvQEziag?t=40

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:31:50 2020 No.12228998 >>12228985 Transhumanism is a coping mechanism for fat nerds

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:39:33 2020 No.12229020 >>12228998 Coping for what? Not being allowed to fuck animal pussy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:47:02 2020 No.12229045 File: 88 KB, 360x450, Inka_Musame_Squid_Girl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228963 >meta cooler made it on there but not squid girl Please correct this error at once onegai

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:48:56 2020 No.12229049 >>12229020 W... would you anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:50:10 2020 No.12229052 >>12229049 Hell yeah I'd fuck uplifts, what other point is there to uplifting them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:52:04 2020 No.12229054 >>12229052 to train underwater super soldiers for conquering europa?

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:55:07 2020 No.12229063

>>12229052
Purely speculative but I wonder if ANY communication could be achieved with dolphins or bonobos with a nueralink implant. The way elon speaks of "communicating without even talking... just reading the raw emotions". I doubt we know enough about their brains (our our brains for that matter) for this to be a viable option for the next 50+ years). But imagine being able to communicate with a fucking dolphin and understand what it is trying to say.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:55:08 2020 No.12229062 >>12229054 Sounds gay

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:56:13 2020 No.12229064

>>12229045
Is the squid girl shiny? Does the squid girl fight an overblown orange retard (SLS) and a second banana blue retard (New Shepard)?
>>12229054
I for one would love to set up an aquatic base to see all the simple lifeforms swim by in Europa and other Jovian ice moons.
>>12229063
There would probably be some language barriers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:56:54 2020 No.12229068 >>12228813 Space travel is always metric.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:56:57 2020 No.12229069 >>12229045 will do

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:57:23 2020 No.12229072

>>12229063
>Give me some mackerel nigga. Hey wanna see me blow some water rings?
Tbh I think part of the reason dolphins aren’t advanced to our level is because they occupy a very easy niche. All their troubles are solved just by eating fish and they don’t need hands to grasp anything or make complex tools. Dolphins are probably very boring

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:59:55 2020 No.12229077 >>12229045 post lewds

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:00:17 2020 No.12229078 >>12229020 No, just being ugly and weak and inferior, but I guess zoophile degenerates who belong in death camps count too

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:01:19 2020 No.12229081 >>12229052 There’s something wrong with your brain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:01:59 2020 No.12229084 >>12229078 Oh shit, here come the space wolves.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:02:05 2020 No.12229085 >>12229081 Okay roastie

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:02:43 2020 No.12229088 >>12229072 >Tbh I think part of the reason dolphins aren’t advanced to our level There’s no such thing as “advanced” or “our level” retard nigger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:03:34 2020 No.12229091 >>12229088 Yes there is dipshit faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:04:11 2020 No.12229094 >>12229085 >t. virgin

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:04:35 2020 No.12229096 >>12229094 >t. roastie

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:04:37 2020 No.12229097 >>12229088 There definitely is. Fuck off with your muh objective intelligence bullshit. Humans are the only creature with cities and civilizations and tools and buildings and spaceships.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:05:31 2020 No.12229099 >>12229091 No there isn’t. Humans aren’t any more “advanced” than a potato. There is no reason whatsoever to believe it’d be “good” to “””uplift””” other animals. They’re likely happier the way they are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:06:33 2020 No.12229102 >>12229097 >Humans are the only creature with cities and civilizations and tools and buildings and spaceships. So what? Who cares? Dolphins don’t. They’re happy eating fish and fucking in the sea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:07:25 2020 No.12229105 >>12229099 >>12229102 Left libertarian on this chart >>12227939

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:07:35 2020 No.12229107 >>12229096 Sex doesn’t change the shape of labia. You’re a virgin. Stop making it obvious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:08:35 2020 No.12229111 >>12229107 Watch out guys, this roasties getting toasty

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:08:36 2020 No.12229112

>>12229099
I'm not arguing we should uplift other species. I just think that humans are more intelligent than any other life form here on Earth (I say that from an empirical standpoint but you could definitely argue it quantitatively if you so pleased). If you think a fucking oak tree is as intelligent as a human you are, in fact, as retarded as an oak tree

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:09:16 2020 No.12229114 >>12229105 >I want to inflict existential terror and soul-crushing industrialization on random animals so I can legally fuck them haha

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:10:19 2020 No.12229117 >>12229112 >I just think that humans are more intelligent than any other life form here on Earth Sure, but so what? Being smart does not per se increase fitness or wellbeing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:10:27 2020 No.12229118 >>12229114 Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:11:21 2020 No.12229120 >>12229118 Why do you want to fuck animals?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:11:42 2020 No.12229123 File: 3.63 MB, 2326x1550, 1602645807385.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228963 Mandatory ULA sniper

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:11:54 2020 No.12229124 >>12229120 Answer the question

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:12:47 2020 No.12229127 >>12229111 That’s not how vaginas work, incel.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:13:39 2020 No.12229130

>>12229117
That's not what I am trying to say. I whole heartedly agree with >>12229102. Dolphins don't need computers to be happy. They are definitely smarter than most species but they are fine knocking about with fish and bubbles and dolphin sex. But as I said in my reply >>12229072 they occupy a niche that isn't pushing them to evolve intelligence further. They don't need to be crafty and make advanced tools or smelt or make computers. Early humans had pressures that pushed us to make these things and in turn made us smarter

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:13:48 2020 No.12229132 >>12229124 Killing yourself is dumb, unless you’re a degenerate who wants to fuck animals, in which case you should definitely kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:13:50 2020 No.12229133 what happens when uplifted animals think that sapience and sexual consent are retarded and they want to go back to being normal?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:13:55 2020 No.12229134 >>12229127 cope roasty

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:15:07 2020 No.12229135 >>12229133 Why haven't you returned to monki?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:15:31 2020 No.12229136 >>12229130 Dolphins can’t really evolve dexterous manipulators because they’re already adapted to open-water swimming, so they’re locked out of developing in that direction. Plus discovering fire underwater is basically impossible, and so is farming.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:16:01 2020 No.12229139 >>12229133 Then they have achieved levels of based far surpassing humans and they will go build a colony rocket and fuck off on Enceladus and leave urf behind

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:16:32 2020 No.12229143 >>12229134 Cope incel

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:16:41 2020 No.12229145
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>>12229127
>unironically uses incel
GET A LOAD OF THIS BUGMAN
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>12229133
Literally the return to monke meme
>>12229136
so the next step is to make dolphins go on land

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:17:01 2020 No.12229146 >>12229136 Water farming is trivially easy, we farm tons of seaweed. Problem for dolphins is that they're obligate carnivores and thus can't eat plants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:17:34 2020 No.12229148 >>12229146 Plants are shit. I only eat flesh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:18:02 2020 No.12229150 >>12229148 Sounds expensive

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:18:42 2020 No.12229153 >>12229150 Meat is cheap this isn’t 1200

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:19:06 2020 No.12229155 >tfw you'll never participate in submarine warfare on europa

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:19:25 2020 No.12229158 >>12229153 More expensive than potatoes

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:20:09 2020 No.12229160 Since we're talking food, what would be the best food for space colonizers? I say aquaponics-based food. Fish and seaweed are highly nutritious and delicious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:20:28 2020 No.12229161 File: 10 KB, 700x394, 44096252_401.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You guys gonna watch the soyuz launch?

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:21:15 2020 No.12229164

>>12229136
You raise a good point. If the "end goal" of evolution is to get as intelligent as possible, then dolphins got fucking unlucky. They sacrificed land and returned to the sea, and unbeknownst to them they kind of fucked themselves.
BUT... evolution does not have an endpoint. You could also argue that dolphins are way better off. They aren't extinct, so returning to the ocean was probably a good thing. Humans just got lucky with the fact that land supports fire and agriculture and thus an abundance of food and the ability to build and explore chemical reactions and such

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:23:20 2020 No.12229170 >>12229164 >If the "end goal" of evolution is to get as intelligent as possible It’s not so lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:23:25 2020 No.12229171 >>12229114 yes

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:24:06 2020 No.12229174

>>12229164
This may actually provide a solution to the fermi paradox. Why colonize space when you've basically got all you need at home? Of course, early humans actually faced hardship and gained more intelligence. This is why we have so many fucking dullards going "WE NEED TO SOLVE PROBLEMS ON UUUURF," they don't know what it's like to constantly need resources and broaden your horizons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:24:57 2020 No.12229178 >>12229171 Stop watching porn. Warps your brain

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:26:12 2020 No.12229182 >>12229160 Isn’t there some aeroponics shit? Also what about bugs? I’d rather eat bugs than basedbeans, especially if it’s fun bugs like crustaceans

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:26:59 2020 No.12229184 >>12229182 Bugs are a pretty good snack food, but as actual nutrition, eeeeeeh.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:27:04 2020 No.12229185

>>12229170
Yeah I know keep reading lmao I literally said "But... evolution does not have an endpoint". Evolution is just natural selection. We had a ton of good RNG and luck to get us to where we are. Dolphins had the same opportunities up until the K-Pg extinction when mammals started to diversity, but their natural selection was different than ours

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:27:16 2020 No.12229186 >>12229160 Potatoes are the best

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:30:15 2020 No.12229190

Tilapia (through aquaponics like you mentioned) for protein.
Various microgreens for vitamins.
Corn (to feed the tilapia).

Anything else that they can manage to grow. Mental health is a big deal for astronauts, and diverse food plays a big part in that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:30:45 2020 No.12229191 >>12229185 Humans are less fit in Darwinian terms than a bacterium that eats slime in the ocean

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:32:25 2020 No.12229196 How many bongs until Soyuz launch

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:33:14 2020 No.12229199 >>12229191 Okay THIS I disagree with, you cannot define something as "more fit" in darwinian terms. The best you can say is that if it is still alive and has a lot of members of its species than it is fit

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:33:16 2020 No.12229200 realistically how long until we get subsurface colonies on europa, assuming spacex has in the low hundreds of thousands of people on mars by 2050

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:33:39 2020 No.12229202 >>12229190 Meant for >>12229160

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:35:21 2020 No.12229205 >>12229200 never, all colonization would happen on the surface for ease of access to imported goods

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:35:44 2020 No.12229206 >>12229196 1 bong

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:35:57 2020 No.12229210

>>12228386
>On 5 May 2020, Reuters reported that the Trump administration was drafting a new international agreement outlining the laws for mining on the Moon.[3] NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine officially announced the Artemis Accords on 15 May will be a series of a bilateral agreements between the nation states in the Artemis program.[4][1]

>The accords outline areas like “safety zones” where work on the Moon is being conducted and where other countries should not interfere.[5] Two researchers writing in Science have called on countries to speak up about their objections, and that the United States should go through the United Nations treaty process in order to negotiate on space mining. They were concerned NASA's bilateral agreements, if accepted by many nations, would enable the U.S. interpretation of international Space law to prevail and make the United States —as the licensing nation for most of commercial space companies—the de facto gatekeeper to the Moon and other bodies in the solar system.[6]

Imagine thinking that the gatekeeper to the moon and solar system is not gravity, but the United States. Imagine thinking that the UN's blessing will be worth anything in the heartless black of space. Imagine thinking that we need to sit at a table with cowards after we have stood on the moon. When we leave them behind, the only shame will be that we knew them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:36:13 2020 No.12229211 >>12229196 1 bong and 10 bings

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:40:20 2020 No.12229230 >>12229199 >Okay THIS I disagree with, you cannot define something as "more fit" in darwinian terms. Fitness is reproductive success, plain and simple.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:43:14 2020 No.12229245 >>12229190 agree. shrimp would be another good easy to manage way to get tasty food,and their waste products could be good fertilizer. Oh and yeast of course! Our settlers deserve a martian beer at the end of the day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:43:18 2020 No.12229246 >>12229210 Imagine thinking that you personally had anything to do with this

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:44:17 2020 No.12229248

>>12229230
By that definition asexual organisms are thriving at 100% because they can reproduce whenever need be. But that's not true because they have a huge lack of genetic diversity and are more likely to die off from one virus or bacteria strain that can infect and kill every member

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:45:41 2020 No.12229250 >>12229246 What are you going to do? Internationally cooperate with me?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:46:36 2020 No.12229251 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqJTcQqDIro AY BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:52:19 2020 No.12229263

Has there been any useful scientific output from the ISS? Like NASA can list off a shitload of experiments in their press releases but I don't see anyone winning nobel prizes for this stuff and I haven't seen any businesses beating down the doors to start up zero-g manufacturing based on what they've done either.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:56:05 2020 No.12229270

>>12229263
There's some work on protein synthesis in microgravity but it's taking a while. We have learned a lot about bone loss and other issues of microgravity and may move to test drugs to prevent it for martian colonists there someday,god willing. I think they've also done stuff with the dark matter people.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:58:07 2020 No.12229275

>>12229263
Not every experiment deserves the nobel prize. That’s why we are lucky NASA exists. The USA has so much money that even on a shit budget, NASA can maintain and operate and expensive laboratory where microgravity experiments can be conducted (no matter how mundane). A lot of it is just for adding data to fields like biology and material science. No one is actively looking for a nobel prize. ISS isn’t exactly worth its weight in gold but it’s nice to have it since we can afford it

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:58:27 2020 No.12229276 >>12229263 They've been fucking around with plants for a while https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/meals_ready_to_eat

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:06:26 2020 No.12229285

Man imagine getting to chill on a space station and just do science and shit. Seems really relaxing. I hope when they get starship going we see people using ducted fan jetpacks to fly around inside of it, probably the closest anyone can get to feeling like superman

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:08:23 2020 No.12229290 Jeez six months of >Sergei? > Da? Da?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:10:59 2020 No.12229295 File: 35 KB, 400x400, dew.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:11:01 2020 No.12229296 Love the skullcaps w/microphones desu. Aesthetic af

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:13:17 2020 No.12229301 File: 3.21 MB, 1920x1080, russiannap.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] cute af

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:14:56 2020 No.12229305 New bread soon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:16:37 2020 No.12229308 >>12229305 Not stale yet newfriend

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:17:37 2020 No.12229312 Kate Rubins isn't hot, but she is very pretty. Her prelaunch interviews are always cool. She really loves being an astronaut for the science >>12229305 °_°

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:18:21 2020 No.12229314 File: 131 KB, 1234x738, Screenshot_41.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:20:51 2020 No.12229321 >>12229314 Which lunchables do they have in their lunchboxes, /sfg/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:21:01 2020 No.12229322 Is it true you have to piss on the back wheels of the bus before you launch from baikonur?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:21:09 2020 No.12229324 dman that thing is cramped

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:21:10 2020 No.12229323 >>12229314 How do I achieve this physique. Also lmao at the shitty soviet opera music being piped into the cabin via radio

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:22:11 2020 No.12229327 File: 1.03 MB, 676x855, based ivan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229324

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:22:14 2020 No.12229328 Do you think they fought over who gets the window seats?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:23:31 2020 No.12229331 >>12229327 lol russkies are such a great people,shame their political system is even more fucked than the us

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:24:10 2020 No.12229333 >>12229327 You already KNOW the fist thing Rubins is doing is checking out the Dragon the second it docks to the ISS lmao.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:25:14 2020 No.12229335 >>12229324 yeah but korolev did a great job pushing the r7 design to its absolute limit. almost as much internal volume as the apollo csm with less than half the mass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:25:22 2020 No.12229336 File: 77 KB, 400x287, Spinoff-2016thumbnail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are spinoffs still a thing? Has the average lay-man benefited from space technology innovation in the last decade?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:26:43 2020 No.12229340 >>12229336 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:28:55 2020 No.12229343 File: 3.64 MB, 2326x1550, dew.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229123

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:29:20 2020 No.12229344 >>12229336 when was the last time the average man had to unfold a giant map in his car because he was lost?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:31:05 2020 No.12229348 >10-15 launches per year Soyuz is a god damn work horse. God bless ivan

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:31:16 2020 No.12229349 File: 257 KB, 1280x960, madrabbit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i need a hop i am going nuts

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:31:52 2020 No.12229352 HOW LONG BEFORE THIS COMMIE ANTIQUE LIFTS OFF GODDAMMIT

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:32:30 2020 No.12229356 >>12229348 this. the gov is fucked but the people are great

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:34:54 2020 No.12229358 >>12229349 big big chungus big chungus big chungus

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:34:55 2020 No.12229359 >>12229348 How long does it take to build one? How much does it cost to make?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:36:13 2020 No.12229364 >>12229340 Such as? >>12229344 GPS was decades ago. Has there been anything more recent?

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:36:24 2020 No.12229366

>>12229356
Roscosmos (as a company) is really bullheaded and filled with pride. But I wish there was a way to ask cosmonauts to come with us to the Moon as a sign of good will. The russians are all friendly astronauts and they should come along for the ride alongside japanese and canadians and whatnot. I don't want to leave them in the dirt

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:36:42 2020 No.12229367 File: 1.56 MB, 1920x1080, russiandoll.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >birthday launch based

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:37:47 2020 No.12229370

>>12229359
Lots of parts are in storage seeing how its been flying for ages. They typically build them in less than a month. Cost is out the roof though. IIRC the company that builds soyuz is bankrupt but Roscosmos continues to use them because of national pride lmao. I don't blame them; it's a legacy antique launcher that at least works in an era before starship

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:37:59 2020 No.12229371 >>12229366 I still can’t believe Starliner is more expensive than Soyuz per-seat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:39:28 2020 No.12229374 >>12229371 Oh boeing totally made it more expensive on purpose. They knew they could charge more because the point of commercial crew was to flex on the russians. I fucking hate boeing so much

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:39:58 2020 No.12229376 File: 1.78 MB, 1920x1200, mtdew.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229366 >they should come along for the ride alongside japanese and canadians and whatnot. I don't want to leave them in the dirt based international collaborationist

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:40:01 2020 No.12229377 Can you have a wet workshop inside a SRB? what would happen if we just made a big chonky SRB to live inside?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:40:49 2020 No.12229378 >>12229367 >Don't forget me while you are up there with that blond American lady.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:42:58 2020 No.12229382 T-3 minutes!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:43:12 2020 No.12229384 File: 285 KB, 400x400, spacehippy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is Chris G from NSF such a fuuucking pussy. I so badly want to hold him down and shave off that hippy mop of his

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:43:24 2020 No.12229386

>>12229359
the true price of soyuz and proton launches has been the subject of a lot of debate. lately they've been charging around $80 million for a soyuz launch but that's thought to be artificially low since they're trying to undercut other countries.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:43:44 2020 No.12229387 >>12229246 He had as much to do with it as the UN does. Why should they have ANY say in what happens on the moon or any other planetary body?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:44:03 2020 No.12229388 >>12229378 Imagine zero-gravity spit roasting

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:44:08 2020 No.12229390 let's hope we don't have another mid flight abort, that was crazy shit

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:44:45 2020 No.12229392
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>>12229370
To be fair, their new Soyuz-5 rocket is really cool. It’s basically capable of doing everything Soyuz does but as a single stick launcher. You can remove the upper stage and put two boosters on (think of a headless Delta IV Heavy) and you can put like 20 tons into LEO. Put an upper stage on and you’re at 30 tons. I really like this thing because it just makes sense you know?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:45:48 2020 No.12229398 File: 41 KB, 730x490, 3DE275B7-D36B-4584-8F3C-1BF274F51F5C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229370 >>12229392 Or... you could strap five boosters onto a core stage and put 70 tons to LEO.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:46:43 2020 No.12229403 for all roscosmos's problems they never cockblock you with scrubs

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:49:28 2020 No.12229407 >>12229388 Definitely need velcro straps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:49:39 2020 No.12229408 File: 188 KB, 830x670, automatedcaptions.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:50:36 2020 No.12229411 iwant a soyuz button pushing rod

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:52:53 2020 No.12229415 The fuck do they do if there is a total engine shutdown? Do they have to scramble into the descent stage?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:53:30 2020 No.12229416 >>12229403 Yeah, they don't care about clouds, rain, snow, anything. When it's time to go, they go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:53:40 2020 No.12229417 >>12229392 Isn't Soyuz-5 effectively a Zenit-3 with all the Ukranian parts replaced?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:54:03 2020 No.12229419 >>12229415 They have a launch abort system

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:55:31 2020 No.12229424 god dman those solar panels pop open fast

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 01:56:21 2020 No.12229426 >>12229419 Yeah but it jettisons pretty quickly. Most rockets ditch the launch escape tower pretty fast.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:00:20 2020 No.12229433 Great launch. Na zdorovie.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:00:30 2020 No.12229435 >>12229426 they aborted after the escape tower got ejected on MS-10. they're already in the descent stage and they just separate and do a ballistic reentry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:01:50 2020 No.12229439 >>12229435 Ahh makes sense. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:02:51 2020 No.12229441 File: 44 KB, 512x400, 92FBC5C6-1C47-48ED-9C27-E05A05C1B939.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229417 Yes. The super heavy version switches the Kerolox second stage with a Hydrolox one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:04:17 2020 No.12229446 >>12229435 Then hope the bears don't eat you while you wait for recovery teams.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:05:32 2020 No.12229448 >>12229364 Well very soon Starlink will provide high speed internet to millions of rural Americans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:07:50 2020 No.12229453 Is there any danger of fucking up the second-orbit rendezvous or is it the same as any other?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:08:10 2020 No.12229455 >>12229398 So is Angara just dead at this point? I haven't heard of any future launches and Russia seems to be going ahead with Soyuz 5, which has a similar or even greater lift capacity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:09:08 2020 No.12229458 >>12229392 What are the chances they could at least try reusability with a single stick soyuz 5? They probably have no inclination to do so, but what if... would it even be possible?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:09:13 2020 No.12229460 File: 63 KB, 1000x669, tp-82.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.iflscience.com/space/why-cosmonauts-used-to-take-guns-into-space/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:09:18 2020 No.12229461 >>12229435 I'm pretty sure the Soyuz still fires rockets to separate from the booster, just not the launch escape tower.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:10:19 2020 No.12229466 >>12229458 Isn't Russia developing a Faclon 9 ripoff with a reusable first stage?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:11:02 2020 No.12229468 >>12229455 There's an Angara A5 test flight scheduled for next month so I assume the program is still around. If anything I'd figure Soyuz 5 is more likely to get killed just because it's probably going to be too expensive for them to develop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:14:20 2020 No.12229482 File: 332 KB, 1020x1275, 5785473.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229466 they put out a picture of an F9 knockoff using Soyuz 5 engines but beware of roscosmos trumpeting their paper rockets

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:16:21 2020 No.12229489 >>12229482 >steering wheel

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:16:48 2020 No.12229490 File: 790 KB, 596x501, 1599521681886.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227790 Shittiest taste ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:19:36 2020 No.12229496 >>12229490 THICCER!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:20:37 2020 No.12229499 File: 56 KB, 1715x15, wide5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229496

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:21:45 2020 No.12229501

https://twitter.com/BoeingSpace/status/1316023517280788486
>SLS Block 1B with Exploration Upper Stage has almost 3X the lift power to Trans Lunar Injection as any other rocket, enabling diverse science and exploration missions -- John Shannon, Boeing VP
It's happening guys!! AAAAA

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:22:54 2020 No.12229503
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>>12229468
Angara has Ukrainian parts though. But it’s such a strange rocket even though I love it. It’s too small to do anything without heavy modifications really.

>>12229466
“Developing”. But they should go the Zenit route with reuse it’s simpler and they have a bunch of land.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:23:32 2020 No.12229506 >>12229499 that might be too thick

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:24:13 2020 No.12229507 >>12229501 >3X SLS BLOCK II can put like 48 tons into TLI. Falcon Heavy can do 16. Expendable Starship can do like 50 I think without refueling

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:26:07 2020 No.12229516 >>12228813 That‘s 150 midget girl toes for all you americans out there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:27:26 2020 No.12229519 File: 200 KB, 1200x900, F8C0A5A0-D5BD-4574-916D-F5671D3678EF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kino

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:29:05 2020 No.12229524 File: 276 KB, 786x1024, 786px-Saturn-V-Apollo-4-VAB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229501 if we're talking about rockets that don't currently exist i can think of one that could throw 10 tons more to TLI than block 1B...

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:29:21 2020 No.12229525 >>12229519 POOOP FART SNIFF SNIFF POOOOP

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:32:47 2020 No.12229537 SKYLON UPDATE >https://youtu.be/htZVq4QaHLY GET UR SKYLON UPDATE HERE

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:33:54 2020 No.12229540 >>12229537 What’s the point of SSTO if you can just build Starship clones? They don’t even have to be as good but TSTO fully reusable btfos Skylon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:38:01 2020 No.12229549 >>12229540 Skylon is real.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:38:18 2020 No.12229551 >>12229540 I guess it's more comfortable to launching like 20-50 people in LEO, since it takes off like a plane

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:40:25 2020 No.12229558 >>12229540 The craft is what Virgin should have built. It's more useful for point to point

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:45:32 2020 No.12229573 >>12229537 Imagine all the problems they'd fix using Methalox instead of Hydrolox lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:47:25 2020 No.12229578 >>12229573 they're also contacting out the rocket part, and consulting boeing on stuff. do they have a goddamn clue what they doing??

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:48:30 2020 No.12229579

>>12228798
Textures on that game are ass. First Crysis had better textures than most modern games with hundreds of gigs of disk usage. They use uncompressed media, audio and videos weight a ton. A notable part of MW2 for example was made just of blink videos between missions. Some argue it's on purpose to reduce piracy. It's probably just being fucking idiots because nobody seems to understand how computers work and what is optimization.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 02:53:07 2020 No.12229590 >>12229579 Crysis PC was the Saturn V

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:01:53 2020 No.12229607 >>12229549 Citation needed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:02:03 2020 No.12229609 If we didn't care about G loads, how much faster could we get to space

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:03:37 2020 No.12229613 File: 22 KB, 285x374, download (25).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229609 15-25 seconds

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:05:50 2020 No.12229615 >>12229613 what if you use a mass driver?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:07:34 2020 No.12229619 >>12229613 Sprint was so fucking beautiful

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:09:15 2020 No.12229624 File: 943 KB, 980x513, plumbob.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229609

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:11:02 2020 No.12229630 >>12229615 Conventional SRB's, Nuclear manholes, and conventional cannons would probably out perform a mass driver

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:27:17 2020 No.12229655 File: 27 KB, 490x600, D2C4FDA9-36B1-493E-93F6-18CC959C92B5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ares V. Say something nice about her

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:28:13 2020 No.12229658 >>12229655 An idea so perfect for NASA that they couldn't stop trying to build it three times.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:32:41 2020 No.12229672 >>12229655 shoulda never cancelled constellation

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:37:03 2020 No.12229684 >>12228025 >>12228034 soyuz, like most russian designed stuff is onions. Look at all those onions domes

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:52:38 2020 No.12229714 >>12228964 a fucking feather

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:57:07 2020 No.12229725

>>12228729
Just fucking streaming eats up that shit in no time. I haven't pirated in god knows how long, I don't watch twitch, I don't really watch much youtube streams or anything like that, I don't really play that many games either anymore.

Yet over the last month, windows reports that I used 488GB over the last 30 days. Good thing I have over 300mbits connection and don't live in a country with data caps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:58:49 2020 No.12229729 File: 258 KB, 603x1232, Probably how it works.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229655 >Say something nice about her

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:59:12 2020 No.12229730 >>12228202 >>12228670 >>12229725 the datacap entry in that table is to prevent the internet ISPs from say... giving you a gigabit connection for 1 GB a month and the rest of the time you're at 2 Mb down

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:01:26 2020 No.12229735

>>12229730
Luckily you can't do shit like that here. If you state a number as an ISP here, you have to provide that 24/7. Shit, if I lose connection and more than one person reports it, I get free fucking internet that month. There's no overbooking of the bandwidth either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:02:39 2020 No.12229738 >>12229735 >there's no overbooking I assure you, they're probably overbooked by at least 10 times, which is low enough to ensure you never notice

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:03:35 2020 No.12229741 >>12229738 You have no idea how strong consumer protection is here and how much they fucking hate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:04:58 2020 No.12229744 >>12229741 that doesn't sound like "consumer protection" to me anon, it sounds like "government mandated waste"

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:08:47 2020 No.12229755

>>12229744
Yeah, what's 2 years longer warranty on consumer electronics than every other fucking country? What's making sure that ISPs can't overbook their bandwidth and have to provide what they state they provide?
No, that's not waste. That's them delivering me the product they promised.

But if you would rather pay full price to be allowed to share a crowded side road with a shitload of people and have a limit to how long you're allowed to spend on it before you have to pay an extra premium on top of it, go right ahead man. I'm sure that's "efficiency" in some bizzarro world.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:10:18 2020 No.12229758 >>12229755 overbooking is an efficiency thing, you can overbook by between 20 and 100 times before literally anybody who doesn't have access to your paperwork will ever notice

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:11:37 2020 No.12229761 >>12229758 Yeah, look how well that's gone this year when everyone has been at home binge watching netflix and doing "home office".

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:12:05 2020 No.12229763 >>12229761 it's been fine for me and all my friends lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:12:39 2020 No.12229765 >>12229763 >wOrKs fOr mE Thank you for your anecdote.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:13:12 2020 No.12229770 >>12229765 works on my machine lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:21:55 2020 No.12229787 Bandwidth general. Every time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:37:29 2020 No.12229826 Date for SN8 yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:39:55 2020 No.12229831 Damn. Launched just 3 hours ago and they're already docking to the ISS https://youtu.be/WismP5JMfIA

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:49:42 2020 No.12229848 >all 3 engines are installed What's the holdup on the static fire?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:51:57 2020 No.12229854 >That wonky gopnik soft mate They came in at an angle, that shit's gonna take a bit longer to settle than normal I think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:56:54 2020 No.12229861 >>12229854 da, is of insufficient wodka in autodocking module

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:58:16 2020 No.12229864 File: 2.35 MB, 2731x4096, EkO2G2mXsAAfRm0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:58:40 2020 No.12229865 >Hellish radio feedback this is the ISS not fucking Event Horizon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 04:59:23 2020 No.12229868 File: 1.42 MB, 4608x3456, index.php.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the new nosecone flaps are much bigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:01:53 2020 No.12229871 File: 7 KB, 194x259, Apu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] happy birthday Kate

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:02:11 2020 No.12229872 >>12229540 The engine tech alone is worth pursuing

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:06:08 2020 No.12229875 >>12229872 it's not significantly better than turboramjets, except maybe in complexity

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:07:20 2020 No.12229876 File: 57 KB, 728x546, 27ubmxpu6ra21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hop when hop when hop when hop when hop

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:09:55 2020 No.12229880 >>12229868 why the fuck do people write their names in big ass letters all over their pics? who gives a shit if someone steals them or doesnt credit you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:10:35 2020 No.12229881 >>12229880 people who make money from it

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:18:07 2020 No.12229898 Mini starship will happen. Don't ask how I know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:20:33 2020 No.12229904 >>12229880 >Why does a photographer, or person who owns the photo put their signature on their photo Gee I wonder why

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:26:46 2020 No.12229915 File: 122 KB, 544x720, IMG_20201014_122523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >SN8 upskirt from Elon AAAAAAAA, I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:30:31 2020 No.12229926 >>12229915 I found the COPVs

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:31:05 2020 No.12229931 >>12229915 Same fucking crumple zone legs? That shit ain't going high.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:33:46 2020 No.12229937 >>12229931 You mad bro?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:34:57 2020 No.12229938 >>12229931 it's not about height its about speed for the legs

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:35:22 2020 No.12229941 >>12229915 Now throooooost.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:35:44 2020 No.12229944 >>12227785 Would to add I'm disgusted the UR-700 is on there.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:35:55 2020 No.12229946

>>12229937
>>12229938
I really wish they'd put on something a bit more reusable any day now instead of something designed for one time testing then back to the scrapheap. Also, when you're intending to go up 20km or whatever, it's not a bad idea to have a little bit more to go on than the shit that gave away at 150m.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:40:17 2020 No.12229952 >>12229946 they have rockets, it's the same landing profile no matter what

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:40:28 2020 No.12229954 >>12229946 Anon. It‘s not about height of the flight. It's about how hard they botch the landing. They could fly 15 km and still land silky smooth if they figure it out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:41:15 2020 No.12229957 >>12229952 >>12229954 It's a pretty new landing profile considering they've never done this belly flop before. They have no idea how hot it'll come in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:42:03 2020 No.12229960 >>12229957 yeah so why waste effort on the legs?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:42:27 2020 No.12229961 >>12229957 it will stick the landing. screencap this

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:42:56 2020 No.12229962 >>12229960 Well, it would help the fucking testing cadence not having to send the shit back for a fucking month if it actually sticks the landing for one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:44:33 2020 No.12229965 >>12229962 it takes a day to swap the legs, anon we've watched them do it

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:46:29 2020 No.12229970 >>12229962 Cool it with the autism bro

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:46:40 2020 No.12229972 >>12229961 In my mind there‘s no doubt the first flight will fail. It would be pretty insane if they pulled this off easily on the first try. Then again they are gambling three raptors on it... So maybe chances aren‘t as remote as they seem to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:47:21 2020 No.12229974 >>12229972 If the raptors are as cheap to produce as they claim, that's not a big gamble.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:48:50 2020 No.12229981 >>12229974 two million dollars is a lot of money no matter how you slice it, anon of course, it should add another ten seconds of footage to Elon's How Not To Land an Orbital Upper Stage montage

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:49:33 2020 No.12229984 >>12229981 To me and you it's a lot of money. It's not RS-25 expensive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 05:51:49 2020 No.12229989 >>12229984 the only things that are RS-25 expensive are union labor and congressmen

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:05:58 2020 No.12230008 >>12229946 It wouldn't surprise me if good legs cost more than a fully fueled prototype in its entirety, especially considering that they want more capable legs for SS than F9 has. Current crumple zone legs are ridiculously fast/cheap

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>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:25:53 2020 No.12230047 File: 1005 KB, 2048x1365, eande-ss-rs25-injectors.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12230035

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:40:00 2020 No.12230079 >>12229946 >>12229954 >>12229957 >inb4 it perfectly performs the belly-flop, swing around and final landing on the first try, only for it to tip over once it lands

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:41:41 2020 No.12230084 >>12230079 *because the cheap stub legs crush unevenly

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:45:38 2020 No.12230094 >>12230079 >>12230084 So far they have stayed upright despite flying on one off-set engine and thus landing with uneven force. For it to land so poorly that it actually tips over the landing wouldn't be acceptable anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:59:09 2020 No.12230125 File: 920 KB, 1280x854, index.php.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] aaayyyyyyy blyat

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 07:02:10 2020 No.12230136 >>12229946 They probably expect it to explode, and only sn 12-13 are going to have legs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 07:04:23 2020 No.12230145 >>12229655 Better name than SLS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 07:06:28 2020 No.12230152 File: 566 KB, 2528x1355, lok-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] test

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 07:07:31 2020 No.12230156 File: 583 KB, 3993x2800, file_2171086.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12227785

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 07:19:58 2020 No.12230189 >>12229112 An oak tree can live for hundreds of years. So there!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 07:54:43 2020 No.12230274 >NASA still showing animations during Soyuz launch instead of rocket cams Is there some technical restrictions or are they just lazy? In general, NASA launch coverage is always terrible, they stuck somewhere in early 2000s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 08:06:49 2020 No.12230296 >>12230274 Soyuz can barely lift 8 tons. A fucking webcam is a strain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 08:09:43 2020 No.12230308 File: 368 KB, 1683x840, DLsyw2f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12228742 >Nuclear engines Soon komяade. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxEGiCiYKiA https://german-kmw.livejournal.com/112316.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 08:23:48 2020 No.12230346 >>12230274 Roscosmos stream didn't have animations

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 08:23:53 2020 No.12230347 File: 105 KB, 1920x950, truth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How come there's a "G" in "/sfg/" when "scientists" say there are "zero G's" ins space? Sorry, globeheads. Flat earth wins again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 08:25:00 2020 No.12230350 File: 580 KB, 2000x1800, 1574126854348.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229068 Is it? I know lbf still beats out kN in engine specifications.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 08:37:59 2020 No.12230390 >>12227900 But the SLS uses the same boosters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 08:45:06 2020 No.12230411 >>12230390 SLS has a different flight plan, which is why during an abort the capsule would have a safe trajectory. With Ares I the would have been caught in the plume of the SRB, which would have burned the parachutes

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 08:57:05 2020 No.12230445

>>12229482
Oh okay okay it's all coming together now. Aside from the loads of rockets Roscosmos claims they have (but never fly) they also have like a million proposals right now, It's just confusing me. Is Soyuz 5 the one they are going with? Also I hope they try this

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 09:21:37 2020 No.12230500 File: 2.08 MB, 1600x900, Boca Boomer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] To anyone who hasn't, get your ass to watch Vice's gay docu on boca. We have Maria and Super Boomer Karen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X9A6jaI0jI

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 09:22:44 2020 No.12230505 >>12229160 *aeroponics

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 09:35:58 2020 No.12230542
File: 1.08 MB, 2100x2100, Lunar_rover_at_station_8,_EVA3,_Apollo_17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Today in history:
>1947 – Chuck Yeager becomes the first person to exceed the speed of sound.
>1968 – The first live TV broadcast by American astronauts in orbit is performed by the Apollo 7 crew.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 09:38:50 2020 No.12230549 >>12229387 As a Brit it's going to be especially fun to troll amerilards every year on Martian Independence Day > perhaps they will forget this year?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 09:44:26 2020 No.12230563 >>12229904 > muh pixels

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 09:57:48 2020 No.12230588 >>12229880 Yes you are that retarded. I expected you were crying for the giant pink text NSF marks their photos but dumb of you complaining for Nomadd who has a smaller text and the green is not that annoying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 09:58:13 2020 No.12230592 >>12230563 Fuck off communist

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:16:59 2020 No.12230642 File: 9 KB, 259x194, index.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12230549 This is the closest brits will ever get to mars lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:22:33 2020 No.12230659 >>12229327 We should start charging 86 million and let them ride on the dragon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:30:30 2020 No.12230680 >>12230549 >Brits >Rockets

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:30:32 2020 No.12230681 >>12230308 fuck it looks so scifi but what are they gonna use it for?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:37:57 2020 No.12230698 >>12230152 Does any space craft look as cool as the soyuz?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:39:07 2020 No.12230703 >>12230698 soyuz looks like an old submarine

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:40:12 2020 No.12230704 File: 56 KB, 543x376, big_g_landg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12230698

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:42:08 2020 No.12230708 >>12230698 >>12230703 >>12230704 I've always liked the souyz look more than the conical capsule, because the conical capsule design is aerodynamic, while the soyuz is full on spaceship aesthetics

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:43:28 2020 No.12230712 >>12230698 >muh reentry gumdrop I hope the replacement looks cooler

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:43:39 2020 No.12230713 File: 908 KB, 2052x1544, ISS-45_Cygnus_5_approaching_the_ISS_-_crop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think the cygnus is pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:44:42 2020 No.12230717 File: 7 KB, 237x212, ye.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12230713 it indeed is

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:46:16 2020 No.12230720 >>12230713 There are so many beautiful Cygnus pictures

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:48:41 2020 No.12230728 >>12230713 Bitchin pop can, I love it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 10:49:43 2020 No.12230729 >>12230500 Imagine a town of a dozen max boomers block a potentialy largest spaceport of US, in texas, creating a shitload of jobs. Also didn't they all get a lot more money for their homes then it was worth?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:06:03 2020 No.12230775 >>12230681 Spending what little money they have to keep jobs in failing state.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:10:55 2020 No.12230786 >>12230274 Soyuz has cams, they are rarely made public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1bCikeXFcA&t=29s

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:11:36 2020 No.12230789 >>12230729 Boomers are incredibly self centered and narcissistic as a group.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:22:37 2020 No.12230821 >>12230729 Tbh, Elon would have set up shot somewhere north of Miami if that happened, brownsville would have been fucked to remain a shithole in South Texas lmao, now it's the Titusville of Texas (which is still a shithole)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:25:17 2020 No.12230831 >>12230729 can't elon have picked a different place around the area?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:27:40 2020 No.12230841 >>12227860 worth it to bash this fash

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:28:56 2020 No.12230847 >>12230841 >>12227866

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:29:35 2020 No.12230848 >>12230841 Ban-evading or the jannies are just lazy

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:29:52 2020 No.12230849 >>12230831 I think it was a spot with the least amount of bullshit in terms of environment impact, etc....

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:31:28 2020 No.12230862 File: 193 KB, 960x960, SN8SOON.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:36:47 2020 No.12230881 New thread? New thread. >>12230879 >>12230879 >>12230879 >>12230879

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:38:41 2020 No.12230886 >>12230841 killing communists is ALWAYS self defense

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:02:22 2020 No.12230966 >>12230862 >Yeah, we're gonna pack 100 people and everything they need inside that nosecone area.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:07:53 2020 No.12230984 >>12230966 fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:08:46 2020 No.12230989 File: 2.61 MB, 1218x2457, Stardineship.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12230984 What, do you suggest they sit in the methane tank then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:10:31 2020 No.12230995 >>12230989 100 people in a small room is going to turn in a methane tank anyway after a while. >BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:11:15 2020 No.12231001 >>12230995 Install a fume hood and compress it. Who needs sabatier processors?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:33:33 2020 No.12231077 >>12230989 Unironically, I've always wished I could slide into a rack and get knocked out for airplane journeys, a la The Fifth Element. At least, the ones over water or at night.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:48:55 2020 No.12231124 File: 296 KB, 646x1020, Screen Shot 2020-10-14 at 11.12.10 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New video! This time on the Falcon 1. https://youtu.be/EinKX4IHKNk

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:50:40 2020 No.12231128 >>12230125 Looks cozy

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:42:04 2020 No.12231303 File: 1.71 MB, 1344x842, 1601050251477.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12229573 Like 40 threads ago I talked about ssto methalox airbreathing engines and everybody REE'd at it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:43:49 2020 No.12231307 >>12229377 Genius post

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:07:13 2020 No.12231385 >>12230966 There's 6 more rings between the nose cone and the fuel tanks, each a little taller than a person I believe

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:19:28 2020 No.12231432 >>12231385 100 people and their luggage is still a bit of a stretch, wouldn't you agree? Especially for a 3+ month voyage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:19:34 2020 No.12231433 >>12230831 Using common sense here, elon doesn't want to buy suburbs and can't disturb the wildlife too much. So he probably picked the area with the least amount of residents that was allowed.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:21:51 2020 No.12231444

>>12231432
Oh yes, I don't even believe the mars colony thing in the near future if ever. If you're going to mars you're sending a small crew of bad ass test pilots and scientists

But the point of the post is it isn't just the nose cone that's the internal volume

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