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Raptor edition

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:38:22 2020 No.12221668 File: 567 KB, 1677x2000, vonbraunletter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:38:24 2020 No.12221669 File: 59 KB, 1200x665, BDC65CCC-5F0B-45B5-A284-90A0F997247F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221661 ASSS TO ASS ASS TO ASS!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:38:24 2020 No.12221670 File: 168 KB, 766x875, AN4k2qF5s8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you can only choose one mission mode

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:39:17 2020 No.12221674 >>12221632 >PISS Conference

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:40:58 2020 No.12221677 >>12221670 im too stupid to read this

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:41:14 2020 No.12221679

>>12221668
Out of curiosity I asked the labpadre stream what they thought of von braun. Wanted to test the waters y'know? They had nothing but good things to say. Called him a visionary and a legend. They said a starship should be named in his honor. Not the answer I was expecting (from them), but they were all correct

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:41:22 2020 No.12221681 >>12221670 >Hydrolox for earth departure (3.8 km/s) >Hypergolics for 5-Sol Mars orbit insertion (900m/s) >Hypergolics for leaving mars from 5-sol orbit (900 m/s) >Direct earth entry

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:42:16 2020 No.12221682 File: 793 KB, 2348x3000, JFKinKSC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221668 >It is our fondest hope that space advancements follow the trend that we attempted to establish in the 1960's We've failed him for too long.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:42:24 2020 No.12221683 File: 83 KB, 1280x720, confusedzubrin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221669 w-what are they doing mommy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:43:29 2020 No.12221687 >>12221683 making a mini-starship

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:43:32 2020 No.12221688 >>12221683 Where are you even getting all these pictures of Zubrin?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:43:46 2020 No.12221689

>>12221668
>After the turn of the century, when this time capsule will be opened, space exploration will have advanced to a degree unforeseen in these opening years of space flight.
>It is our fondest hope that space advancements follow the trend that we attempted to establish in the 1960's and are directed toward the benefit of mankind and toward the uplifting of all earth's people.
I feel sad and ashamed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:44:33 2020 No.12221690 >>12221687 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:44:38 2020 No.12221691 >>12221679 did you ask them that today? how long ago? just curious, i dont remember hearing and i had the stream open

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:44:58 2020 No.12221692

>>12221682
Dude no we didn’t. We have self landing rockets and within five years we’ll have a fully reusable vehicle that is almost a thousand times cheaper than the Saturn V while putting more into orbit than it. I hate this stupid mindset. If we went to mars like von Braun wanted with those big expendable rockets, we’d go for like three missions in the 80s, then some president would cut the funding and we’d be back to square one with the shuttle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:46:26 2020 No.12221696 >>12221668 :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:46:57 2020 No.12221697 >>12221692 Until Starship lands on Mars, we've have nothing to be proud of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:47:08 2020 No.12221699 >>12221682 Better late than never

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:47:14 2020 No.12221700

>>12221691
Like a week or two ago. It was maybe four in the morning? Might have been the less gay crowd but no one brought up his nazi ties or anything. I was pleasantly surprised. One person made the "zat is not my department" joke but said he was still an amazing person

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:47:29 2020 No.12221703 >>12221697 Yes we do you mongoloid. Even if starship doesn’t make it to mars it is a huge improvement over the Saturn V.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:48:16 2020 No.12221706 >>12221670 >Nuclear pulse >Nuclear pulse >Nuclear pulse >Nuclear pulse Yup I'm thinking Mission Mode 16 is based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:48:20 2020 No.12221707 File: 21 KB, 914x251, explorer_4wrEoFm9w5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221688 i spent an hour combing all the search engine results and his twitter. it's not much, but it's honest work

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:50:08 2020 No.12221713 >>12221707 based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:50:47 2020 No.12221716 File: 182 KB, 1024x1024, wernher-von-braun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:52:30 2020 No.12221719 File: 177 KB, 1920x1080, magneto inertial fusion driven rocket.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The fuck is the magneto inertial fusion driven rocket? How does this work and is it possible to build today

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:53:46 2020 No.12221723 File: 3.00 MB, 3000x2347, VonBraunFamily.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221716 >tfw don't have any attractive cousins to marry feels very bad man

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:54:11 2020 No.12221724 If a crime happened on Mars, would Earth laws apply or does it count as "international waters" when you leave Earth?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:55:32 2020 No.12221726 >>12221724 you go to mars jail

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:57:59 2020 No.12221729 >>12221723 I like how everyone's cheery except his teenage daughter. It reminds me of that scene in Apollo 13 where Jim Lovell's daughter is bitching about the Beatles breaking up.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:00:02 2020 No.12221732
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Historically speaking, why hasn't been going THICC been as popular as going tall?
There's Energia/shuttle and kinda Ariane 5/starship, but pretty much everyone else just builds tall sticcs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:00:11 2020 No.12221733 >>12221726 Honestly, they'd probably either execute or force into labor any criminals depending on the severity of the crime. There's unlikely to be sufficient resources in the early years to keep non-productive personnel alive.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:00:13 2020 No.12221734

reboast

>>12221612
Elon will IPO Starlink and it will get some ridiculously fucking parabolic valuation like Tesla, into the hundreds of billions, and then Musk will exercise stock options on Tesla and Starlink for at least 100 billion. And Musk cultists won't even be mad, because that's the Mars money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:01:04 2020 No.12221736 >>12221729 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:01:04 2020 No.12221737 >>12221732 People just didn't think the extra drag was worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:01:14 2020 No.12221739 >>12221732 Tooling scales primarily with tank diameter. It's part of why Saturn I used a bunch of smaller tanks on its first stage instead of one big unit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:01:40 2020 No.12221740 File: 34 KB, 548x566, 2yqiz6xk41k11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Your daily reminder that the math checks out on nuclear fission torch SRBs. They would work in principle. 200 MT thrust from a Shuttle SRB.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:02:22 2020 No.12221741 >>12221733 wring them out for water like on arrakis

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:02:28 2020 No.12221742

>>12221734
>And Musk cultists won't even be mad, because that's the Mars money.
I mean that's his plan isn't it? All the tesla followers expect him to sell his shares and get rich out the wazoo and use it to move to Mars. Sounds so fucking unreal but it is definitely going to happen. And do think he wanted to originally do it in a Red Dragon... Starship is way better and I'm glad he's going with it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:02:55 2020 No.12221744 >>12221740 Now we just need to find an organization with the balls to research it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:03:29 2020 No.12221746 >>12221732 I was gonna say dynamic pressure but did Energia have to throttle down at max Q like the shuttle did?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:04:44 2020 No.12221752 1966 "Aeronautics and Space Report" https://youtu.be/Yqye_Mdy9Xo

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:06:01 2020 No.12221757 >>12221734 Ok mr stock man, so when should i sell?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:06:15 2020 No.12221758 >>12221740 What the fuck even is a fusion torch, and is a normal fusion torch different than an SRB fusion torch? Give me a schematic by brain is childish and only works with photos

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:06:23 2020 No.12221759 >>12221757 just before elon does

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:07:24 2020 No.12221761 >>12221741 based and centrifugepilled

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:07:53 2020 No.12221763 >>12221752 Fuck what a legend. Honestly I think Musk is his reincarnation

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:09:34 2020 No.12221765 >>12221759 after Starlink IPO/baloon i guess

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:10:23 2020 No.12221767 imagine being the guy that has to keep track of every single contractor part delivery for SLS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:11:01 2020 No.12221769 >>12221758 FISSION TORCH. URANIUM 238 DUST IN THE SRB FUEL. NEUTRON REFLFCTOR AT THE NOZZLE. RIDING AN A BOMB. YEEHAWW MOTHERFUCKERS WATCH OUT BELOW. >>12221757 buy and hold Starlink ASAP, don't buy Tesla at this price

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:11:14 2020 No.12221770 >>12221734 Wouldnt it be smarter to do what Bezos does, and just cash out a few billion a year to fund it? cashing out 100 billion sounds silly

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:13:13 2020 No.12221773 >>12221769 do we know when starlink goes public? elon seemed to want to hold off

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:14:17 2020 No.12221775 >>12221773 No clue but he confirmed he wants to do it and apparently wants it targeted at small investors (ie retail) which is fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:15:35 2020 No.12221778 >>12221770 Depends, if he wants to do a huge surge of Starships for a certain launch window he'll need to scale up Boca Chica dramatically to a Starships-per-day production rate. The current Starship factory is as much a prototype as SN8 is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:15:50 2020 No.12221779 >>12221775 last question, how can one man be so based?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:17:14 2020 No.12221782 File: 83 KB, 900x720, 17021632_1928875527344878_1506183085559562443_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] adolf schaller art compilation book I can buy when? t. looking through his posts on facebook

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:17:27 2020 No.12221783 >>12221779 He's also big into the Greek classics and linked to a book that argued Rome fell because of cultural barbarians Daily reminder he's an escaped South African white and knows what racial unrest can lead to

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:19:23 2020 No.12221786 >>12221752 >build VAB to stack 4 Saturn Vs simultaneously >fly more than 2 in a year exactly once

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:19:42 2020 No.12221788 >>12221778 it seems surreal that the first orbital starship /superheavy will have been built in tents and stacked in the open in the middle of nowhere. fuck oldspace

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:20:21 2020 No.12221790

>>12221719
https://youtu.be/tHSOmOu61b0
Honestly I don't understand fusion thrust. Like yes we understand the physics of fusion but we have a bajillion proposals for fusion rocket engines. It's like we don't understand / have the existing technology to make fusion thrust I really don't understand it. But here's a cool video that could probably work (?)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:21:19 2020 No.12221791 File: 207 KB, 1800x911, 20157527_2006480759584354_920018854359697634_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221782 love this nigga

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:22:19 2020 No.12221793

>>12221734
That would be a bad way to do it. Better to keep Starlink in SpaceX and both private so Starlink can generate the billions year over year to fund Mars. An IPO would create a lot of cash quickly, but Mars doesn't need quick cash, it needs consistent cash, and retarded stockholders are too likely to kill the golden goose in pursuit of short term gains.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:22:19 2020 No.12221794 File: 36 KB, 1000x750, 23511130_2062504097315353_6667688811456766464_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221791

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:23:21 2020 No.12221795 File: 62 KB, 678x750, 24312583_2072100726355690_509086135970496716_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221794

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:24:45 2020 No.12221798 File: 460 KB, 979x1200, 26850877_2092071537691942_4599127969505959061_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lunar ski resorts WHEN?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:24:57 2020 No.12221799 >>12221775 Won't The price on the stocks skyrocket the minute it becomes public?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:25:46 2020 No.12221801 File: 393 KB, 1000x1000, 27747500_2103537083212054_7421972031562838019_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221798

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:32:37 2020 No.12221814 >>12221799 Ipo investing is rigged for the rich. By the time normal people can buy it. The rich and hedge funds will have majority positions.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:37:10 2020 No.12221820
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>>12221788
It's going to be like this pretty much forever, imagine something like Newport News, but for Starships. Scale as large as you like.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:39:47 2020 No.12221824

>>12221814
If Elon keeps his word it's possible to do a direct listing, and have a generous options plan for Elon like he has for Tesla. It'll get shorted into the ground initially by the same people who consistently short Tesla, and will pop really hard because Starlink is going to be a money printer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:49:09 2020 No.12221837 File: 1.85 MB, 168x224, 150 meter hop.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /hop when/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:56:50 2020 No.12221851 >>12221742 I can't even imagine living for a year in a tiny Crew Dragon capsule en route to Mars You'd need the most hikki shits ever to be the crew

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:57:26 2020 No.12221852 >>12221837 November 3rd, screencap this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:00:56 2020 No.12221856 >>12221837 never, we already agreed it would blow up before november

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:01:05 2020 No.12221857 >>12221773 Elon said they‘d wait until it actually starts producing actual revnue. Probably a few years out still.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:01:18 2020 No.12221858 >>12221851 I mean with hab modules and whatnot attached it would be okay but god damn talk about a shitty lander. 7 at a time? No other way to get cargo down except a separate lander? Jesus >>12221852 Witnessed in the event you are right

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:01:26 2020 No.12221859 >>12221837 december 28th screencap this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:03:35 2020 No.12221862 File: 257 KB, 1280x960, dadroAS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221852 >>12221856 >>12221859 I see at least two of you have chosen death. Very well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:03:54 2020 No.12221864 >>12221859 my birthday :D

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:04:56 2020 No.12221866 >>12221862 LET MY BUNNY GO

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:08:59 2020 No.12221873 >>12221858 7 at a time is great...for Apollo and Artemis

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:15:56 2020 No.12221887 >>12221740 waaaaaay off. even nuclear lightbulbs are closer just due to being a closed system.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:18:15 2020 No.12221890 File: 142 KB, 400x600, 11766117.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221866 For months it has been unable to HOOOOOOP and it's pent-up aggression could be released on anyone if set free.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:19:43 2020 No.12221892 Guys!! it's IAC today! are you excited??? GET HYPE YUSYUSYUS we are SPACEFARERS hahaha BLASTOFF

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:21:01 2020 No.12221893 i am at my fucking limit HOP WHEN

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:21:49 2020 No.12221894 >>12221892 Are there any presentations worth watching this year?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:24:21 2020 No.12221898 File: 73 KB, 720x545, 1580632544187.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221890 36m diameter SS hop when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:27:18 2020 No.12221902 File: 287 KB, 1809x2000, 3a0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221898 turn around

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:30:28 2020 No.12221908 >>12221670 N U C L E A R

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:30:43 2020 No.12221909 >>12221894 >>12221892 idk there's some info here https://www.iafastro.org/events/iac/iac-2020/

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:58:24 2020 No.12221945
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>>12221894
(for the nasa stuff, we'll be seeing a lot of big jim)

Monday, Oct. 12

8:40 a.m. – Heads of Agency Plenary Session, including NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine

9:30 a.m. – Heads of Agency Press Conference, including Bridenstine

12:10 p.m. – Exploring as One, featuring NASA Associate Administrator for Human Exploration and Operations Kathy Lueders, and Associate Administrator for Science Thomas Zurbuchen, as well as other panelists

Tuesday, Oct. 13

9:40 a.m. – The Artemis Mission, featuring Lueders, as well as other panelists

12:30 p.m. – International Participation in the Artemis Program, featuring Bridenstine

Wednesday, Oct. 14

8:50 a.m. – Worldwide Missions to Mars, featuring Zurbuchen and NASA Planetary Science Director Lori Glaze, as well as other participants

9:40 a.m. – Astronaut Panel, featuring NASA astronaut Ricky Arnold

10:30 a.m. – Europe on and Around the Moon and Mars: A Discussion between ESA and NASA Leaders with European Young Professionals, with participation from Bridenstine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:05:41 2020 No.12221958 >>12221945 I love Thomas Zurbuchen lmao I was in a zoom meeting with him the other week and he refused to crack a smile and just kept bitching about his computer problems. It was really entertaining I wish I recorded it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:07:46 2020 No.12221964 >>12221958 Love him too, his story is inspiring. If you find time check out this doc, it does have english captions https://youtu.be/2pov_bBZbxc

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:13:52 2020 No.12221975 >>12221958 well you wont forget to record next time

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:33:34 2020 No.12221998

>>12221719
Engine shits lithium covered pellets of deuterium out the back of the rocket. Magnetic fields compress the pellet hard enough to force fusion. The magnetic fields reflect the part of the explosion aimed at them (most of it) away from the rocket and you get thrust. Since the pressure is being applied to deuterium by solid metal instead of magnets or lasers it should be much easier to get working, and there's no need for a Q>1 fusion powerplant to make it work either. It's basically the sounding rocket of interplanetary fusion ships.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:34:31 2020 No.12221999
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When is this nigger going to IPO starlink, forget mooning, that stock will be on a one way trajectory to fucking pluto. Can't wait for all the shitcunt ISPs to be absolutely seething that their customer base is getting nuked after being ultra giga kikes for 30+ years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:36:38 2020 No.12222001 >>12221892 Has Elon attended any since the absolute disaster of the 2016 one?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:37:57 2020 No.12222004 >>12221791 >deep blue sky lol pre-lander conceptions of Mars are so quaint, like Venusian swamps at this point.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:38:34 2020 No.12222006

>>12221998
>there's no need for a Q>1 fusion powerplant to make it work either
This is what pisses me off about fusion propulsion research. People seem to keep waiting for reliable net positive power to treat it as a real possibility, when you don’t need anything close to that kind of efficiency to produce stupid amounts of thrust at a high specific impulse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:39:57 2020 No.12222011 >>12222001 >absolute disaster of the 2016 one That Q&A was fucking hilarious. Disaster or not, I’m so glad it happened.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:42:30 2020 No.12222013 >>12222006 you absolutely need net gain. and you have to power the ignition. where does that power come from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:42:30 2020 No.12222014 >>12222011 Holy shit that was from IAC?? I know barely any anything about it other than the basic gist. I hate watching cringe like my body will not allow me to sit through it. Someone give me recap

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:43:45 2020 No.12222017 >>12221999 Goodbye, Jews! Goodbye, Jews!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:44:47 2020 No.12222020 >>12222011 2017 IAC lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:45:16 2020 No.12222022 >>12221669 Hi anon, Please don't sin like this. This is a Christian board. Thank you. Best regards

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:46:31 2020 No.12222025

>>12222014
>Elon can I come on stage and give you a little kiss? Tee hee tee hee
>Elon I'm just going to plug my shitty comic book real quick, let me come on stage and give it to you
>Bro can I like, take a shit on Mars?
>Uh, um, uh, I'm like super smart 200IQ pls hire me for Tesla general manager

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:47:23 2020 No.12222026

>>12222013
Could you not use a high-power fission reactor to provide the electricity necessary for initiating fusion? That’s bound to be more efficient than using that same fission reactor to simply heat hydrogen in a more traditional nuclear thermal setup.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:47:49 2020 No.12222027 >>12222025 Did he handle it well or walk off stage. This sounds fucking atrocious

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:49:07 2020 No.12222029 >>12222020 Ah, I didn’t realize they did a presentation a year before the one with the Q&A. What was so bad about the 2016 one then? Just general Elon autism?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:49:58 2020 No.12222030 >>12222029 Questions were asked. Bad questions. Really fucking bad ones. See >>12222025

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:51:27 2020 No.12222031 >>12222025 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:52:47 2020 No.12222036 >>12222027 toward the end the host said there was time for one more question, to which elon immediately said goodbye everyone and left. he was not going to indulge them a minute longer

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:53:35 2020 No.12222037

>>12222025
>Uh, um, uh, I'm like super smart 200IQ pls hire me for Tesla general manager
There’s like 100 of those people in the replies of every single one of Elon’s tweets. Sometimes it’s kinda cute, because the author is clearly just a young kid that’s inspired by his work, but it’s kinda depressing when you realize some of them are posted by 40-something men who should know better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:54:34 2020 No.12222039 >>12221945 Still waiting for this group of fucking faggots to do... well... anything really.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:55:22 2020 No.12222042 >>12222026 fission makes sense, or maybe have an ignition battery that is recharged by the reactor

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:55:23 2020 No.12222043 >>12222011 I still do not believe it was real it felt like a sketch from a tv show or something >>12222025 The self described level-2 super-genius has a self published book on amazon and the reviews are funny

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:57:58 2020 No.12222047 >>12222043 >I still do not believe it was real remember 2016 was the year the timelines diverged

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 04:59:04 2020 No.12222048 >>12222039 whomst, NASA? they're doing their best

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:03:41 2020 No.12222058 >>12222039 They’re slapping worm logos on everything they can find, so that’s a good start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:04:11 2020 No.12222060 >>12222027 He handled them fairly well although his cringing levels were off the charts and he fucked off at the end before the last question was asked because he was obviously done with these retards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:05:50 2020 No.12222065 >>12222058 >when the only thing you are capable of doing is resting on your laurels and bringing up past glories NASA is a fucking disaster but at least jimbo managed to funnel some money and contracts to Spacex.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:25:50 2020 No.12222112 >>12222025 I‘m glad the space nerds stepped it up and now journos asking entry level questions is the exception at these events.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:28:45 2020 No.12222119

>>12222112
>the last starship event
>how much will it cost
>how much will it cost
>how much will it cost
>how much will it cost
>um can we please not have any more financial questions guys?
>how much will it cost
>how much will it cost

Redact all journalists

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:29:21 2020 No.12222122 >>12221999 Elon said that he‘ll wait for a stable revenue stream before going public as he‘s sick of Tesla‘s wild ride with all the shitposting short sellers and whatnot. A shame since I wanted to get in while everyone was still fast asleep on this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:31:00 2020 No.12222125 >>12221758 fission torch >>12221769 U-235 or U-233, anon not U-238

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:32:32 2020 No.12222128 >>12222125 Fission torch is a meme, what kind of exhaust could possibly contain a sustained fission explosion?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:35:06 2020 No.12222134

>>12222112
>>12222119
how bout
>what did it feel like
>how did you feel
>what were you thinking about when you saw
>what were you feeling after
>what did you think when you heard
every journo wasting people's time with these shit emotional questions piss me off more than the mars poop guy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:36:43 2020 No.12222136 >>12222128 steam!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:42:11 2020 No.12222149 >>12222134 While I intensely dislike the estronaut, at least he actually asks some half decent questions at these events.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:43:11 2020 No.12222153 >>12222065 We choose to have NASA worm-branded Diet Mountain Dew in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard (to defund).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:43:57 2020 No.12222156 >>12222136 Anonchama.... A fission explosion is not the same as a toasty reactor core.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:44:09 2020 No.12222157 starship energy drinks when starship beer when

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:45:29 2020 No.12222160 >>12222156 I’m sure graphite could contain it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:46:35 2020 No.12222161 >>12222160 Ok go put some graphite next to a nuclear bomb and tell me how well it survives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:47:27 2020 No.12222163 scientifically speaking, who will be the first person to get blackout fucking drunk in space?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:48:42 2020 No.12222166 File: 75 KB, 562x758, 515f35ba999d5.image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222065 thank u frends, i wont let you down

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:48:43 2020 No.12222167 >>12222160 Graphite is used as a moderator you imbecile, it will ablate away instantly under a sustained fission explosion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:50:32 2020 No.12222169 >>12222161 use a fucking superconductor, same way you keep it from touching the walls of a tokamak

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:51:23 2020 No.12222170 >>12222163 A geologist

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:52:42 2020 No.12222172 >>12222169 Yeah that works so well against neutrons which have no charge

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:52:44 2020 No.12222173 File: 161 KB, 710x627, 369A9443-4EC8-452A-BB16-475E93C26EFF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222161 I did, but I couldn’t find any after the fact. >>12222167 Nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:52:54 2020 No.12222175 >>12222163 first, riddle me this: did buzz fuck neil armstrong in the ass on the moon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:54:15 2020 No.12222178 >>12222172 direct them with antineutrons retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:54:43 2020 No.12222179 >>12222163 Aldrin did communion on the moon. For all we know, he drank the rest of the wine on the trip back home. Alternatively, I’d be willing to bet that at least one cosmonaut got plastered at some point during the Salyut program.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:54:49 2020 No.12222181 how does microgravity affect yeast and fermentation surely nasa has at least tried making some prison wine on the ISS to see what happens by now right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 05:58:51 2020 No.12222186 >>12222181 Beer has been brewed from yeast and barley grown from seeds that were in space as publicity stunts. No idea if anyone’s actually fermented anything in zero g, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 06:04:31 2020 No.12222194 >>12222163 not a cosmonaut, that's for sure the amount needed would be just unfeasible

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 06:06:29 2020 No.12222198 File: 48 KB, 288x512, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have a clue wtf happened at that SpaceX Mars workshop in 2018?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 06:44:37 2020 No.12222254 >>12222013 Dude solar panels lmao. Many of these designs require less than a megawatt of electricity for everything including triggering fusion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 06:47:53 2020 No.12222257 >>12222128 Why contain it? Make the thing ablate all the way down to zero as it burns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 06:57:14 2020 No.12222270 >>12222166 JIM WIDRENSTINE

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:00:37 2020 No.12222274 They installed a third raptor on SN8.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:00:56 2020 No.12222275 >>12222179 >Aldrin did communion on the moon. For all we know, he drank the rest of the wine on the trip back home. Buzz Aldrin was always my favorite astronaut.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:01:02 2020 No.12222276 File: 117 KB, 1920x1080, KSP_x64 2020-10-12 04-00-23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] depot haha

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:11:53 2020 No.12222294 >12220664 >NIIGR Based Soviets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:14:54 2020 No.12222299 >>12222294 http://www.astronautix.com/n/n11gr.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:16:01 2020 No.12222302 >>12222299 ahahahaha nigger!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:18:59 2020 No.12222309 Daily reminder that war will eventually occur in space and that’s a good thing. Peace causes degeneracy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:25:52 2020 No.12222321 >>12221778 >surge of Starships for a certain launch window Holy fuck, I didn't even think about how there could be literal fleets of starships sent off towards mars all at once every 780 days

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:27:43 2020 No.12222326 File: 152 KB, 2000x1334, why-pays-be-jerk-like-jeff-bezos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be me >year is 2023 >finally fly people on new shepard >elon slingshots a chink, ringo, and mr beast around the moon mfw

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:28:22 2020 No.12222327 >>12222274 UPSKIRT WHEN?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:29:20 2020 No.12222328 >>12222321 Elon literally said this at IAC years ago. The colonization fleet would depart en masse

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:31:27 2020 No.12222332

>>12222179
There's an anecdote that soviet cosmonauts smuggled a bottle of cognac to space station once, but couldn't figure out how to get it out of the glass bottle in zero G safely and just left it there. Some time later different expedition solved the problem: one guy put the bottle to his lips and another smacked him in the back of the head, propelling him forward with inertia popping cognac out of the bottle and into the mouth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:32:57 2020 No.12222334 >>12222332 kinku

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:38:24 2020 No.12222339 File: 2.62 MB, 600x338, 1502155967255.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222326 lmao sub lunar

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:38:57 2020 No.12222342 >>12222332 1.Punch hole in cap 2. Put straw inside 3.PROFIT!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:40:49 2020 No.12222346 >>12222327 either soon or never. elon flew back to florida because of ongoing f9 issues. word is he's pissed, so he might not feel like posting an upskirt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:45:10 2020 No.12222348 File: 251 KB, 1100x1100, stringer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These welds are starting to look pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:49:28 2020 No.12222352 >>12222299 >N11GR Manned ballistic missile complex. >Because of poor guiding electronics each missile inside the rocket is manually steered by African student from Patrice Lumumba University, specifcally chosen to take stab at racist West.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 07:54:50 2020 No.12222357 >>12222342 I wonder if there are any party stores in the orbit where you could grab some drinking straws

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:00:35 2020 No.12222373 >>12222346 Why would he be pissed I want to suck his cock to make him happy again ;-;

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:01:12 2020 No.12222374 >>12222274 How long before static fire?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:02:11 2020 No.12222375 >>12222346 >word is he's pissed Sweet. Cadence is the biggest issue facing SpaceX right now (with both F9 and SS plans) so the more he's seething about it the better

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:02:16 2020 No.12222376 File: 2.08 MB, 861x1080, Luna-3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Human-rated Proton >Nothing but UDMH, NTO and Aerozine50 >Direct ascent hypergolic lunar mission

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:03:53 2020 No.12222382 File: 386 KB, 500x410, iss-19_crew_members_drink_water_from_the_water_recovery_system-yellowsidelink.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222357 You can only drink from straw.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:04:32 2020 No.12222383

>>12222161
It's not clear what you have in mind for most of this post string but "put graphite next to a nuclear bomb" is pretty much exactly what you do in a nuclear pulse engine. The fact that graphite can protect surfaces in a nuclear blast was the whole inspiration behind the design.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:12:12 2020 No.12222396 >>12222346 >>12222375 Isn't it weather issues? There's not much point in being mad about your rocket being unable to do something when it's working perfectly as intended.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:12:39 2020 No.12222399 >>12222382 Apparently they didn't use those back in the day

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:17:08 2020 No.12222407 >>12222396 Usually yes, this time no, there was a turbopump overpressure event which triggered a shutdown.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:18:26 2020 No.12222408 >>12222373 dragon crew-1 got delayed by two weeks because of f9 problems, that's on top of multiple scrubs

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:45:57 2020 No.12222444 File: 379 KB, 1053x1329, 1577404679569.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 08:53:59 2020 No.12222458 File: 58 KB, 890x500, C7F9042C-0B73-43AD-974D-37556AF817FF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It’s easy to forget how big Starship is. SN5 and SN6 are about as big as the Saturn V stage 2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 09:00:15 2020 No.12222467 File: 1.05 MB, 2415x3000, S-IC_engines_and_Von_Braun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222458 Yeah. Just thinking about how pic related is only a little over half a von Braun wider than Starship is pretty crazy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 09:06:35 2020 No.12222482 >>12222001 The 2017 BFR presentation was at IAC. I remember staying up pretty late for it because it was in Australia that year. 2018 was in the factory, 2019 was at Boca.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 09:12:17 2020 No.12222503 >>12222161 A graphite bowling ball covered in oil can actually survive in the epicenter of a nuclear fireball.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 09:13:59 2020 No.12222508 >>12222503 Steel can too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 09:18:49 2020 No.12222518 >>12222482 2016 IAC without the QA is Kino though. It was the true reveal of Starship/BFR/ITS

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 09:22:18 2020 No.12222529

>>12221668
You need to read Darwin's opinion on the interactions between the various races of human and then realize that some very influential people think they are averting nuclear war by mixing the races together in order to dumb down as many humans as they can. If their goal was to uplift humanity through race mixing they would deal the ones that score low on all the tests out of the breeding game instead of paying them to breed like rabbits.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 09:55:24 2020 No.12222582
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>>12221732
Gotta fit shit for transport. The Soyuz has to fit on rails between the VAB and launchpad, and the Saturn had to fit in the Guppy for manufacturing across the continental US to make sense.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:04:00 2020 No.12222604
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Virgin Orbit is seeking another handout, this time for $200 million
https://www.wsj.com/articles/richard-bransons-virgin-orbit-seeks-1-billion-valuation-in-fundraising-11602403201

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:05:51 2020 No.12222608 >>12221668 Gay. I wanted him to write that the Holocaust was made up.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:07:58 2020 No.12222611
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>>12222582
A Super Guppy used to deliver Airbus parts for assembly throughout Europe. Meaning that, for a time, all Airbus were delivered on the wings of a Boeing.
The Beluga now fulfills that role.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:09:32 2020 No.12222614 >>12222604 >launching from a 747 I want air launch to orbit from an F-104. Let the missile with a man in it launch a missile without a man.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:20:11 2020 No.12222642
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My cousin works at SpaceX. Cool guy. He does the software for Crew Dragon. Anyhow I got to tour the facility back in late 2016 after the ITS presentation. It was really cool actually. Anyhow I asked him what the company believed would be the date that the whole “Hey come move to mars for $500K” would be and he said that internally, SpaceX expects this to happen in about 2050.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:24:35 2020 No.12222654 >>12222642 Nice larp, but can your cousin get my a job at Spacex? No i do not have any experience.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:26:39 2020 No.12222660

>>12222654
The dudes kinda condescending. I was in high school at the time and I told him I was in the model rocket club and he said “Oh then you’re probably not going to get a job here with that. You have to be smarter.” Also I had the pics on my old phone but if I find them I’ll post them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:27:16 2020 No.12222662 File: 870 KB, 1480x802, LAG.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guys I found out why my game is laggy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:31:18 2020 No.12222667 >>12222660 That's bullshit, spacex is going to undergo massive growth if starship is successful. They'll hire idiots soon enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:32:44 2020 No.12222670 >>12222667 Man that’s just what he told me. I was like 15 at the time and it fucking hurt but still I got to see B1019 and shit. The dude gave me a tour of SpaceX but whenever I texted him about launches and shit be never replied.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:34:05 2020 No.12222672 >>12222029 No no, "the Q&A" everyone talks about is the 2016 one in Mexico.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:34:48 2020 No.12222674 >>12222672 Elon and the presentation were great actually yeah

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:35:53 2020 No.12222676 >>12222672 there better be toilets on the starship, nobody wants to shit into a baggy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:37:31 2020 No.12222677 >>12222611 I think that's actually more embarrassing for Boeing than Airbus. Using your arch-rival's own technology to defeat it etc

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:41:09 2020 No.12222680 >>12222677 By the time the stopped using the Guppy Airbus didn't have the upper hand, they didn't defeat Boeing. It was very much neck and neck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:48:24 2020 No.12222689 >>12222680 Losing half the potential business out there to a new entrant isn't the best result though really is it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:51:12 2020 No.12222697 File: 239 KB, 1200x938, SaturnIB_SaturnV.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222458 Makes the wet workshop concept for Starship seem plausible.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:52:11 2020 No.12222700
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>>12222689
>to a new entrant
Airbus entered in the 1970s and didn't overtake Boeing until the turn of the century.
Further. it's not the best result - no. But welcome to America where, culturally, we all believe the best should win.
Boeing needs to restructure itself to remain competitive or they'll fall out like Convair and North American.

Then again, both Airbus and Boeing are receiving illegal support from governments.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:52:30 2020 No.12222702 >>12222697 milkstool dry workshop when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:53:43 2020 No.12222705 >>12221752 >"Warner von Brown" everytime

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:57:03 2020 No.12222712 File: 333 KB, 664x930, rita02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222700 >Then again, both Airbus and Boeing are receiving illegal support from governments. Illegal how?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 10:59:30 2020 No.12222715 >>12222712 There's an ongoing legal war between Airbus and Boeing in the WTO. The WTO has charged them both with receiving illegal subsidies and other help. It's just 'no u' back and forth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:01:52 2020 No.12222723 >>12222715 We should disband the WTO any and all international organizations are BS

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:02:13 2020 No.12222724
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>>12222712
https://www.dw.com/en/airbus-boeing-wto-dispute-what-you-need-to-know/a-49442616
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/02/766404561/wto-says-u-s-can-hit-eu-with-7-5-billion-in-tariffs-over-airbus-subsidies

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:02:25 2020 No.12222725 >>12221767 They probably have a contractor to keep track of that

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:07:06 2020 No.12222734 File: 58 KB, 600x503, rita06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222715 >>12222724 What's up with big airline companies and requiring constant government help? Is the industry that bad?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:13:36 2020 No.12222750

>>12222734
Industries with high entry costs and heavy reliance on intellectual capital (like aerospace) have increasing returns to scale. When you have two competing economies with more-or-less evenly matched talent and infrastructure bases the natural result is going to be one country's industry failing in the absence of government intervention.

US aerospace managed to dominate without gibs in the early days just because it was so far ahead of everyone else after 1945.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:14:19 2020 No.12222753

>>12222712
Boeing was Americas golden child for decades after the war, crushing the entire airline production industry across the globe. European aircraft builders were just too small to compete.
EU governments got together and specifically formed Airbus to force their way back into the Airline market and break the monopoly. You better believe the airliner industry is just one massive cesspool of subsidies and bribes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:19:49 2020 No.12222763 >>12222700 the difference is, Airbusses are falling from the sky like it's blizzard

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:19:58 2020 No.12222764 File: 296 KB, 870x1347, EkGXnTPWAAARVsT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >DIRECT/Jupiter shills will defend this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:21:28 2020 No.12222768 >>12222764 scared.jpg

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:23:22 2020 No.12222772

>>12222763
I'm gonna assume you meant aren't.
In any case, anyone with even a remote knowledge of aviation knows those crashes were half pilot error. Boeing is getting more shit than they deserve, those pilots didn't follow the checklist.
But fuck Boeing. Outsourcing American jobs to fucking India.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:23:27 2020 No.12222773 File: 42 KB, 400x570, Elon Musk Furcurious.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12221779 >how can one man be so based?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:24:04 2020 No.12222776 >>12222772 >Boeing is getting more shit than they deserve KEK

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:26:44 2020 No.12222779 File: 516 KB, 1303x957, starlink gateway map.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Updated Starlink gateway coverage maps.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:28:42 2020 No.12222782 Didn’t Boeing make those big bombers

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:30:11 2020 No.12222785 >>12222772 yeah "aren't", sorry I'm retarded but Boeing actively denied the issues even existed until hundreds of people got killed and they couldn't cover it any more they deserve all the shit they get

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:30:31 2020 No.12222786 >>12222782 kamikaze planes don't count as bombers

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:34:56 2020 No.12222803 >>12222773 you never played high tail hall games? >>12222786 I know you mean it as a joke, but they did made kamikaze bombers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aphrodite

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:38:50 2020 No.12222816 >>12222803 >you never played high tail hall games? I did like 10 years ago. Now I play 3D furry sex sims in VR like Yiffalicious and WildLife.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:44:03 2020 No.12222826 >>12222779 So everything inside the big orange circles is covered? >>12222803 >high tail hall games Whatnow?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:46:58 2020 No.12222840 >>12222826 >So everything inside the big orange circles is covered? yep, but usable once sats are in position

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:47:59 2020 No.12222846 File: 263 KB, 576x439, Enzmann.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] enzmann starships when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:48:55 2020 No.12222851 >New Shepard is targeting liftoff tomorrow, Oct. 13 at 8:35 AM CDT / 13:35 UTC for the NS-13 Mission.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:51:06 2020 No.12222859 >>12222779 Link?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:51:51 2020 No.12222863 File: 36 KB, 768x432, skynews-jeff-bezos-blue-origin_4225615.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222851 >Blue beats SpaceX to space AGAIN how will /sfg/ cope?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:52:03 2020 No.12222864 >>12222859 no. starlink

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:53:40 2020 No.12222868 File: 38 KB, 600x459, 57eb45dba2ad485e7d2056ef769c3499bc1511573081fd5a3f134202d8402ea7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222864

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:55:01 2020 No.12222873 File: 177 KB, 767x750, 1588787046541.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222864 huehuehuehue

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:55:11 2020 No.12222874 >>12222859 Never mind, found it. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1H1x8jZs8vfjy60TvKgpbYs_grargieVw&ll=42.83802071464009%2C-94.85800456250001&z=4

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:56:03 2020 No.12222876 File: 65 KB, 1200x671, Blue Balled Original.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222863

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:58:38 2020 No.12222883 File: 48 KB, 879x485, New_Glenn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222863 New Glenn better not be a flop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:00:18 2020 No.12222886 >>12222883 A FUCKING FEATHER

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:00:45 2020 No.12222887 >>12221668 Fuck him. The entire Apollo program was a huge waste of money. If we aren't even able to colonize Antarctica how the hell are we supposed to colonize Space?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:03:18 2020 No.12222891 >>12222887 1/10 I don't think you even tried

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:05:28 2020 No.12222895 >>12222887 >The entire Apollo program was a huge waste of money. this. think of all the poor minorities that could have eaten for a day with that money

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:08:31 2020 No.12222907
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>>12222886
>be me
>martian posting on starchan
>its Elon day
>discussion is civil and on topic
>suddenly a fucking feather joins in
>hes endlessly shitposting about how much better o'neill cylinders are
>thread gets derailed
>mrw
Fuck feathers! Starchan would be so much better if the entire block of DSN addresses for Earth orbit was banned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:08:56 2020 No.12222909 >>12222895 Think of all white women who could carry black babies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:09:22 2020 No.12222911 https://vimeo.com/465512979/ed18ea2087

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:11:45 2020 No.12222921 >>12221661 >SN39 Imagine an oldspace exec's face if you told him you wanted to go through this many engines just in testing, and it needs to happen in the course of a few months

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:12:09 2020 No.12222923 File: 734 KB, 1920x1080, raptors.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222911

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:14:51 2020 No.12222938
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>>12222883
>start development on methalox engines before elon rips you off
>your new engine is so good even ULA thinks it's a worthy successor to the RD-180
>invent world's first fully reusable rocket
>perform the first propulsive landing of a rocket stage from space
>work on a new rocket that's going to be more useful than FH because you aren't too lazy to develop a proper upper stage and a wide fairing for it unlike SOME billionaires
>rack up boatloads of DOD contracts because the pentagon sees where the future is for heavy lift

>/sfg/ relentlessly concern trolls about how you're somehow losing the commercial space race because elon is hopping around a tin can in texas that can't even do what new shepard was doing 5 years ago

get it together, guys. stop embarrassing yourselves. look at spacex vs. blue side-by-side and tell me you SERIOUSLY can think that sticc-thin strap-ons and kerolox upper stages can compete.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:18:23 2020 No.12222952 File: 1.14 MB, 1280x720, SPACEX AND NATIONAL SECURITY.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New video! https://youtu.be/DCEhQAgeVlM Why are spy satellites so cool bros?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:18:41 2020 No.12222955
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>>12222938
>/sfg/ relentlessly concern trolls about how you're somehow losing the commercial space race because elon is hopping around a tin can in texas that can't even do what new shepard was doing 5 years ago
I never doubted New Glenn. It's just frustrating to not see any meaningful progress from BO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:19:59 2020 No.12222959 File: 963 KB, 2852x2016, corona_j_inboard_profile.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222952 >Why are spy satellites so cool bros? because they're invaluable at maintaining peace

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:21:11 2020 No.12222961 >>12222921 They ran through 20 engines between SN5 and Starhopper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:25:14 2020 No.12222980 >>12222909 >>12222907 rent free

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:25:21 2020 No.12222981 >>12221707 so chad

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:26:28 2020 No.12222985 >>12222959 >corona Your taste is impeccable

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:27:59 2020 No.12222995 I don't know if this was already posted here but this YouTuber appears to be chosen for the #dearMoon project. https://twitter.com/MrBeastYT/status/1315023620574507008

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:29:36 2020 No.12223004 File: 93 KB, 1200x675, 43543543543.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just realized something. If the Starliner keeps getting delayed, India's ISRO might actualy beat Boeing into space with the Gaganyaan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:30:33 2020 No.12223011 >>12222995 >Mr. Beast Remind me why we hate him again? I don't watch his content, but I've heard that he had a charity where for every dollar a tree would be planted or something.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:31:09 2020 No.12223015
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This rabbit hole goes so deep. They're shit talking Dmitry Rogozin and the FEDOR twitter account (the russian robot) just called these cosmonauts "drunk" before deleting the tweet lmaoooooo

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:33:00 2020 No.12223025 File: 326 KB, 750x757, D1C064A8-44AA-490A-BF04-1B8F18AE6C9B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223015 >It’s all real holy kek https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1315687366674313217?s=21

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:35:36 2020 No.12223036 >>12223011 just a normie

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:36:09 2020 No.12223037 >>12222697 Starship wet workshop is dumb

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:37:56 2020 No.12223043 >>12223011 I'm too old to have ever heard of the guy but I'm not gonna like somebody just because he paid to plant trees. The world has plenty of trees now that most people don't use them for firewood.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:37:56 2020 No.12223044 >>12223015 >Cлoв нeт, вcё видитe caми. >No words, you see for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:39:50 2020 No.12223053 >>12222907 No, no, they're right about O'Neill cylinders if nothing else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:40:32 2020 No.12223054 >>12223025 >Then FEDOR deleted his account. but @Msuraev is still around?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:41:12 2020 No.12223057 >>12223054 get cucked, soyuz boyuz

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:41:31 2020 No.12223060 >>12223037 No

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:43:37 2020 No.12223064 >>12223060 Why would you do something retarded like expending a Starship when that single Starship could deliver dozens or hundreds of times its own volume in modules?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:43:40 2020 No.12223065 >>12223015 I'd feel bad for Rogozin if he didn't talk so much shit. Man captains a sinking ship but if you ask him sinking is a good thing and Russia has nothing to worry from floating memeships

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:44:23 2020 No.12223067 >>12222995 I thought the idea was to bring genuine artists in order to inspire them. Why bring Mr. Beast? His only talent is having a shit ton of money

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:44:54 2020 No.12223069 >>12222887 >If we aren't even able to colonize Antarctica We are, just nobody in the 21st century is gonna spend money to do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:45:42 2020 No.12223074 >>12223064 Because that metric ignores the fact that the starship itself is the cheapest and most easily replaceable part of that entire equation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:49:41 2020 No.12223086 >>12223053 >another fucking feather

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:50:21 2020 No.12223089
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i had a question about starship booster. What element do we have now prevent the problems that occurred on the N-1 from repeating ? If i remember correctly the great flaw of the N-1 was its multiple engine on first stage that failed because engines interaction, and the booster have quite a lot of engines too.

What advance make failure like this less worrying ? maybe computers ? i heard the N-1 had a faulty computer which caused lots of failures

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:50:28 2020 No.12223091

>>12223011
I think they just find him annoying and obviously the point of his charity is to gain as many fans as possible and capitalize off of it. The whole thing can be pretty wasteful as his team just destroyed a relatively nice house for a video they did just so he could buy his brother a new one.

I'm probably not going to like anyone in the dear moon project but it's not really out of jealousy. I don't even like the project outside the concept of sending a spacecraft around the moon, the inspiration the artists gain from it is worth fuck all and it's a meme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:52:17 2020 No.12223096 >>12223089 N1 had no static fires.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:53:34 2020 No.12223104 >>12223089 N1's biggest issue is that it didn't have a test stand because they couldn't get permission to build one. Super Heavy is gonna have teething problems but they'll be worked out well before they try an actual launch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:54:34 2020 No.12223109 >>12223104 what are teething problems ?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:54:42 2020 No.12223110
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>>12223089
>What element do we have now prevent the problems that occurred on the N-1 from repeating ?
Soviet computer technology was lacking even for the time, and they didn't have a way to test complete stages before launch. SpaceX has both much better computers and can test states. Also, they've launched rockets with many engines before.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:56:54 2020 No.12223112

>>12223104
Weren't the engines only able to be fired once? And they also rushed the development, plus the computer was pretty shitty.
Starship is completely different. Falcon heavy has 27 engines, which isn't much fewer than starship. Testing will make sure.

>>12223109
Infants go through a period where they grow teeth and practice by biting on things like pacifiers. It means the early trial period. Where are you from? Your syntax makes it feel like you're foreign.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:58:10 2020 No.12223116 >>12222734 Boing! absorbed McDonnell-Douglas and got infected by their management problems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:59:13 2020 No.12223119 >>12223112 yep completely foreign, from belgium. but mostly i'm lazy and don't reread myself.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 12:59:57 2020 No.12223123

>>12223067
That's what Yusaku Maezawa said but he probably chose Mr. Beast to draw attention to the project and help document it. The term artist is pretty subjective and I'm just glad he hasn't yet chosen some woke SJW slam poet that would produce zero value from the experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:01:03 2020 No.12223129 >>12223116 Then what made McDonnel-Douglas do bad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:01:23 2020 No.12223132 >>12223112 Korolev planned to get around the lack of static fires by giving it multiple engine-out capability. It might have worked if pogo oscillations didn't wreck the plumbing every time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:02:59 2020 No.12223134 >>12223129 Decades of stagnation and buying up their rivals. The F-4 and the MD-11 were the last good planes they made.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:03:18 2020 No.12223135

>>12223086
Why do you want to fuck up people's growth so badly?
Why can't you concede on this single thing that having people live in 1g environments as close to natural life on Earth is better for their health and necessary for multi-generational living in space without crippling defects?
SpaceX is indisputably better in every single metric, why do you insist that they have to be right about every single thing as well? Has Starship gone to orbit yet? No, because we all know that Elon is overly ambitious with his time-frames. Is Starship exactly the same as what was initially unveiled? No, because Elon realized that wasn't going to work for what he needed. Will 1g space habitats holding sizable numbers of people come long after colonies are on Mars and likely other celestial bodies? Yes, because they will require significant space infrastructure to construct.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:05:10 2020 No.12223143

>>12222750
>US aerospace managed to dominate without gibs in the early days just because it was so far ahead of everyone else after 1945.
Not so sure about this. The UK was ahead of the US in a number of areas, forcing latter to pull its usual underhanded tactics to squash legitimate competition. The US hates having to compete on a level playing field because it's products are often proven inferior

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:06:09 2020 No.12223148 >>12223123 I can't speak for anyone else but I find the idea of some rich kid making a clickbait-y off the wall vlog about going to the moon a lot more distasteful than some pretentious artist doing something obnoxious in an art gallery

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:06:46 2020 No.12223151 >>12223135 Nice pasta, featheranon

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:09:02 2020 No.12223158

>>12223148
I get what your saying but this is MY argument (i.e. this is how I am coping with all of this):
Thankfully these people will NOT be the first space tourists. We have already had billionaires and such launch themselves to the ISS. And hopefully Tom Cruise goes to the space station before Dearmoon happens. That way all the weirdos will have made it to space and will lessen the "historical" impact of having youtube fags go around the Moon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:10:27 2020 No.12223164 >>12223143 Anon, I...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:11:52 2020 No.12223169 >>12223135 >trying this hard Oneillians are so shit at shitposting. Lunarians do it much better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:16:01 2020 No.12223179 >>12223164 I think you forgot to finish your post anon. Anyway there are tons of examples of the US interfering in foreign governments etc to shut down projects, influence procurement etc. It's not really up for debate

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:16:47 2020 No.12223182

>>12223148
Oh it's definitely distasteful, but the greater effect is that the millions of Zoomers that watch his channel will be exposed to spaceflight and that's good for everyone. What's the benefit to sending some expert violinist around the moon? I highly doubt their music will become that much better from the experience and very few people will hear the result.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:19:31 2020 No.12223189

>>12223182
Yeah this is probably the best answer I have seen. Yes there are some great musicians alive today who could make it around the Moon. But sending someone like Mrbeast will expose a LOT of people, who really are just normies, and suddenly they will think space is badass. It will shift a lot of people into supporting the Moon and they will probably do a deepdive and learn about how we could have Mars colonies and whatnot

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:20:59 2020 No.12223195 >>12223123 >>12223182 >>12223189 He'll be irrelevant by the time the mission happens.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:27:05 2020 No.12223212

>>12223182
>>12223189
I think you guys are vastly over-estimating the impact such a thing will have on zoomers. Disregarding that cool shit like the Falcon Heavy launch already gathers millions of views and gets millennials and zoomers excited, the biggest take-away of this for them will be that MrBeast is cool, not space.

I don't know, I think the thing that bugs me most about it is that it's something he was just invited to do because he's popular at the moment. All the previous space tourists all went out of their own way to get there and clearly have a lot of passion for space exploration. Anyways I'll gonna try let it go for now and just hope that the guest list for dearmoon is altered by the time it launches.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:29:15 2020 No.12223219 >>12222407 On a new booster at that. Someone fucked up on assembly. Human error will always fuck things up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:29:36 2020 No.12223221 >>12223212 It's a good sign if people who don't really give a shit about spaceflight can start flying up there at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:30:56 2020 No.12223224 >>12223179 Yes, and? Why should they waste money developing things that they could just easily get in bulk from the US as leftover surplus? America was just helping them be smarter with their money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:31:32 2020 No.12223228 >>12222373 Jesus Christ.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:32:55 2020 No.12223233

>>12223212
That's what bothers me about it, like I don't disagree with you anon. That's why I have been saying I have been trying to cope. Probably everyone here on /sfg/ wants to go to space, and even the dumbest person here has a general idea of Starship and engines and space tech and space history. But we will have to watch Yusaku go with a bunch of cringe people who probably know nothing about Musk other than what they see in memes. Just gotta cope bro. Hopefully a FEW people on the mission are based... but I am willing to bet 99% of the people on that mission will know nothing about space or spaceflight

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:33:22 2020 No.12223235 >>12223221 This. It’s a sign that space is no longer the domain of the ultrauberchads that are astronauts. Average people flying up there is now a reality

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:34:57 2020 No.12223241 >>12222995 Come on I want to see The Everyday Astronaut fanboy from Lunar Orbit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:35:15 2020 No.12223244 >>12222764 Is this just a shitpost rocket or was it a real plan? If so did it have a name?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:37:37 2020 No.12223252 >>12222667 I’m stupid and I know I could work circles around the majority of people with grinders/ metrology equipment. There’s a place for average folk in aerospace.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:37:42 2020 No.12223253 File: 261 KB, 600x841, 6e9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223241 Pretty sure his jaw would snap from opening his mouth so wide.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:40:28 2020 No.12223262 >>12223259 Oh shit, Elon really is going to kill somebody.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:41:50 2020 No.12223267

>>12223253
Lmao. Part of me wants him to go. Imagine how funny it would be to see his “hey everyone it’s tim dodd here!!!” vlog where he is trying to talk to everyone about starship, but they’re all preoccupied. Mrbeast is throwing out cash, Yusaku will be desperately flirting with everyone in the background, Ringo Starr will be a dead corpse floating around, ryan gosling is constantly trying to comb his hair in the corner, thots twerking everywhere

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:42:12 2020 No.12223268 >>12222764 I love how all these renders have the target celestial body in the background.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:42:25 2020 No.12223269 File: 657 KB, 1111x894, nQaxvIZBu1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223244 it's real and from one of the early jupiter family pitches https://youdieifyou.work/files/yghlnnmejppi.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:43:15 2020 No.12223273 >>12223015 >Economy class at First class price

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:43:40 2020 No.12223275 File: 71 KB, 845x564, jeff_bezos_6629226_ddd3f9a0aa_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223259 SpaceX is finished. It wasn't that easy in rocketry after all. Goodbye SpaceX

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:43:50 2020 No.12223277 >>12223224 Weak bait. France has demonstrated pretty well that it's perfectly possible to tell the US defence industry to foxtrot oscar

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:44:11 2020 No.12223278 >>12222779 I doubt that Alaska circle is accurate based on no knowledge at all

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:44:14 2020 No.12223279 File: 585 KB, 780x879, 1527341850334.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223259 >Elon stop building things in house your being paranoid, contractors can do just as good a job!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:45:02 2020 No.12223283 >>12223259 Didn't they have a launch get pushed back earlier this year because of second stage problems? Could it be the same thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:46:54 2020 No.12223289 >>12223253 >>12223267 kek

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:48:39 2020 No.12223295

Big Jim just posted this on twitter
https://blogs.nasa.gov/bridenstine/2020/10/12/statement-on-international-exploration/

Sounds like the Russians are mad over the gateway

>In order to build as broad a coalition as possible, we shared a draft of the proposed Gateway MOU with Roscosmos in November of last year, and we remain open and interested in receiving their feedback on the document and our general approach of utilizing the ISS’s IGA for the Gateway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:49:34 2020 No.12223298 File: 129 KB, 1740x736, 1531926373085.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12222863 >hops to Karman line and back >to space If I stand on my tippy toes and jump, I can beat you to my ceiling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:51:23 2020 No.12223307 >>12223298 Would it be funny if Vulcan fucking explodes on its maiden launch due to faulty BE-4 engines? Or should we be rooting for Blue Balls to actually make it to space for the sake of spaceflight

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:52:23 2020 No.12223312 File: 75 KB, 782x561, 1576857574718.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223004 ha ha ha POO IN LEO

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:53:58 2020 No.12223316 >>12223089 >What element do we have now prevent the problems that occurred on the N-1 from repeating ? Actually testing it before launch? Yep, that's a big one. N1 couldn't be re-fired.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:56:03 2020 No.12223320 >>12223267 best non-green greentext post

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:56:09 2020 No.12223322 Space is now pop culture thing https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/spacex-series-hbo-elon-musk-1234801389/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:56:42 2020 No.12223326 >>12223004 Even if Starliner flies on time, India deserves the credit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:57:48 2020 No.12223327 >>12223253 why is /sfg/ so obsessed with hating someone who is way cooler than they'll ever be?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:59:44 2020 No.12223331 >>12223011 >Remind me why we hate him again? He’s a soiboy idiot. > I don't watch his content, but I've heard that he had a charity where for every dollar a tree would be planted or something. Huge waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:03:43 2020 No.12223344 >>12223132 I totally understand the Soviets’ mindset but not testing your engines at the very least is retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:03:47 2020 No.12223345 >>12223015 >>12223025 lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:03:48 2020 No.12223346 >>12223269 That's so fucking cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:06:14 2020 No.12223353 >>12223089 The biggest issue with the N-1 was its garbage engine control system. SpaceX isn’t exactly lacking in the computer science department, so they’re unlikely to have similar issues.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:07:26 2020 No.12223357 >>12223331 Tbh I found him to be really comfy. Also his video on engines is really good. Of course I hate the fact that he’s one of those “Hey everyone were all one team :))))) I luv China” faggots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:08:33 2020 No.12223363 >>12223134 >ignoring the F-15, the most successful air superiority fighter in history MD didn’t really begin to fuck up until the 80s.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:08:39 2020 No.12223365 >>12223357 Reading comprehension is important.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:16:27 2020 No.12223394 >>12223089 Whats the reason that tapered design isn’t more prevalent? Looks very aerodynamic.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:20:41 2020 No.12223407
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Ok so I did some math and I found that if you take the SLS core and put 3 RS-68s from the Delta IV, and give it a balloon upper stage like a fat Centaur, you can put 41 tons into a Trans Lunar Injection.

Why is this important? It means that we could’ve made SLS without needing those 4 expensive SSMEs and instead used the RS-68s. SSMEs are $240 million for the full set (or were in 2010), while RS-68s would cost $60 million for 3. We could’ve had 2 or 3 or 4 of these vehicles flying per year goddamnit

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:24:20 2020 No.12223419
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>>12223407
The vehicle still uses the 5 segment boosters. The core is also the same except it has 3 RS-68s, which are twice as heavy as the SSME and have 10% lower isp (410 vs 452). They are shittier, but a lot cheaper.

The upper stage is cool though. It is a balloon tank with a mass fraction of 0.93458 without the engines, which is similar to the S-II stage in the Saturn V (and that wasn’t even a balloon stage). The upper stage can either use 6 RL10Bs, or a single J-2X. The J-2X is cheaper but needs more development cost.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:24:35 2020 No.12223420 >>12223407 You can't engineer your way out of a grift, anon. If we had gone with RS-68s for SLS then they would have found a way to jack up the price on those too (probably by saying that regenerative cooling would cost billions to develop for them)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:24:45 2020 No.12223423 >>12223407 That website is a blast from the past. Does that company still exist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:25:35 2020 No.12223429 >>12223357 You replied to someone shitting on mrbeast, not everyday estrogen. But yes... I agree on tim dodd. Although he isn't comfy he is cringe

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:26:37 2020 No.12223433 >>12223429 >anon on 4chan calls others cringe

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:26:52 2020 No.12223435

>>12223420
To be fair though if an in-line configuration is used, you wouldn’t even need the regenerative cooling on them. They would be protected from the SRB blast. Man-rating them is concerning but honestly NASA should’ve stopped being faggots and realized that they have a LAS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:27:40 2020 No.12223437 File: 269 KB, 1080x1598, Screenshot_20201012_192511.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223233 Come on guys, Mr Beast isn't all bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:28:14 2020 No.12223440 >>12223437 Most normal people are inherently homophobic lmao. I like him a bit more desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:28:49 2020 No.12223445 File: 17 KB, 398x257, cc9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223437

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:30:53 2020 No.12223450 >>12223433 I have done very embarrassing things in my life but never have I ever bought a multi thousand dollar space suit and stood in front of a camera and lectured my chat on team humanity and why china is numbah one. That is fucking embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:32:25 2020 No.12223456 >>12223450 I am tempted to make a space YouTube channel but without pandering bs and shit. Too bad I have no idea how to make videos that aren’t you staring at the camera.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:32:59 2020 No.12223458 >>12223295 what do they have to be mad about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:33:35 2020 No.12223463 >>12223407 >>12223419 They investigated RS-68s for various SLS precursors (DIRECT, Ares) but found that the nozzles got too hot because of the SRBs and that regeneratively cooling an RS-68 basically gets you a shittier SSME anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:33:57 2020 No.12223467 >>12223458 SpaceX stealing their market share

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:34:09 2020 No.12223468 >>12223407 The heat from the other engines would harm the ablative nozzles. And separators might reflect the hear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:36:13 2020 No.12223474 >>12223463 WHY NOT BUILD A FUCKING FIREWALL TO SHIELD THE RS-68S FROM THE SRB PLUME????? DID NO ONE EVER CONSIDER THAT?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:36:45 2020 No.12223476

>>12223463
Damn. Was shuttle derived fucked from the start? You
1) Have to use SSME’s
2) cannot put shit on top of the tank without redesigning the whole thing
3) Can only put two boosters on the thing thanks to the core thrust beam location
4) if you do decide to have a side-mounted payload module, it is diameter limited to about 8 meters, and now you really have to use SSMEs

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:38:39 2020 No.12223483 >>12223467 i personally think they're incapable of making a docking port

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:39:46 2020 No.12223489 File: 16 KB, 349x267, 5FF5D10A-C5A2-4D7D-8F5A-76AE358A80CF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223468 >>12223474 >>12223463 It looks like they had a fix to it? There’s pictures of Ares V with the engines hanging off the side.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:39:51 2020 No.12223490 >>12223483 The russians? But they make plenty of them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:40:58 2020 No.12223494 File: 391 KB, 1536x2048, 5hxadesmvwm11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223327 Do you know who I fucking am???

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:41:04 2020 No.12223495

>>12223456
>you staring at the camera
Honestly the best. But don't be like the shitty ones who wear the spacex hat and sit in front of their computer with their big ass gaming mic. Personally I think Hullo has the best formula. Shoot it in one take, just sitting on your couch sharing what you know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:48:00 2020 No.12223517 >>12223494 How much can Elon squat bros

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:49:07 2020 No.12223520 File: 112 KB, 650x922, 2b62d489d4ce8a423851d9efab73d908.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223490 not anymore. now they're getting reamed by chinese COCK. poor proud ivan, giving china the POOPY WEINAR

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:50:35 2020 No.12223524 File: 89 KB, 238x468, Vepk0imAYc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223476 a side-mounted earth departure stage would have been flying pretty quick but it wouldn't have met the congressional SLS requirement of 130 tons to LEO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:58:15 2020 No.12223549 >>12223517 420 xD

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:59:10 2020 No.12223553 >>12223524 I used to shit on this vehicle but looking back...it was the right choice and it would’ve saved a lot of money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:59:23 2020 No.12223555 >>12223549 fooooucking funny bro, made my day. mind if i post this one on readdit and tink tok? hehee

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:01:29 2020 No.12223563 >>12223278 Dumb post

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:01:51 2020 No.12223565
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>>12223489
Just move the SRB's up so the nozzles don't overheat the engines... but then you need to deal with the tank. Okay let's get rid of the orange tank and switch to stainless steel... but the plume will still hit the tank so let's get rid of the SRB's. Hmm but now we need more thrust. Let's change to some methalox engine so we get more thrust. And while we are at it let's make the first stage reusable with propulsive landing. Idk, rate my design

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:02:38 2020 No.12223570 >>12223295 Russians dont have the money or the capacity to deliver. They also dont like America so they're partnering with the Chinese

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:03:46 2020 No.12223576

>>12223456
I'm literally retarded and I manage to make videos. Just do voiceovers or manley type videos with a mix of talking and graphics. You don't need anything crazy, but if you have a facecam, try to make your background mildly interesting. Lots of people look like they're being held hostage on their facecams

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:06:25 2020 No.12223585 >>12223565 imagine how much faster starship could go if it has srb. elon, make it happen!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:08:16 2020 No.12223599 >>12223570 trust me, theyre building nuclear rockets though

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:10:03 2020 No.12223605 File: 216 KB, 458x402, 1472819062361.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223259 >>12223279 Remember that CRS-7 RUD from a bad strut? and... >OH NOES YOU CAN'T USE A ROCKET TWICE >THE PARTS WILL BE ALL WORN OUT

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:10:04 2020 No.12223606
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>>12223553
Its biggest problem was that it looked too much like the shuttle at a time when everyone was desperate to pretend that NASA was getting back to the good old days, using saturn paint schemes in the concept art that were obviously never going to happen

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:10:08 2020 No.12223607 >>12223524 Would never work because NASA hates Shuttle-C.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:14:35 2020 No.12223621 >>12223607 They can learn to love

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:18:24 2020 No.12223635 Only serious answers: How long before I can 3D print the full shuttle stack in my garage with consumer printer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:20:13 2020 No.12223646 >>12223635 trick question. you don't have a garage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:21:19 2020 No.12223650 >>12223646 Ok my mom's garage

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:21:42 2020 No.12223652 >>12223606 >we want Shuttle derived hardware, but make it LOOK like Saturn NASA deserved SLS desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:24:57 2020 No.12223662 File: 6 KB, 275x183, upscale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone have this photo but not garbage? It got corrupted somehow

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:29:38 2020 No.12223671

>>12221851
Ok, idea:
We educate a few hikkis to the point that they know how to fly that thing and perform the mission.
Then we give them a few terabytes of anime, manga and the ability to download all new releases.
We stick one each into a dragon and send them to mars.
For them it's nothing special to not see anyone for over a year and to not go out.
So they won't go crazy and it should work.
They also don't care about osteoporosis or muscle loss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:32:10 2020 No.12223680 File: 3.52 MB, 2326x1550, sfg barrel section.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223662 here

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:33:30 2020 No.12223684 >>12223467 they should just make affordable orbital fuel depots

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:34:56 2020 No.12223688 Static fire when? I wanna hear those raptors roar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:40:03 2020 No.12223703 >>12223671 what happens when they refuse to go outside after they land on mars though >>12223688 i'm betting saturday

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:41:37 2020 No.12223710
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In history:
>1492 – Christopher Columbus's first expedition makes landfall in the Caribbean, specifically in The Bahamas.
>1964 – The Soviet Union launches the Voskhod 1 into Earth orbit as the first spacecraft with a multi-person crew, and the first flight without pressure suits.
>1994 – The Magellan spacecraft burns up in the atmosphere of Venus.
>2005 – The second Chinese human spaceflight, Shenzhou 6, is launched, carrying two cosmonauts in orbit for five days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:46:16 2020 No.12223723 >>12223710 >*Today in history Pls, no bully.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:50:13 2020 No.12223739

>>12223132
>multiple engine-out capability
That‘s certainly one way to say: it shuts down all engines as soon as one fails in a collossal software fuckup, leading to the largest non-nuclear explosion ever caused by man.

Oh, but I forgot. They fixed it. They added a timer that guaranteed that it would shut off all the engines slightly less prematurely in the flight so it would only ruin the mission and not the launchpad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:50:18 2020 No.12223740 >>12223710 Columbus was so fucking based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:52:02 2020 No.12223742 >>12223740 reported for racism and bigotry

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 15:59:20 2020 No.12223764 File: 161 KB, 676x429, martian_wojak.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223703 >>12223671

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:02:27 2020 No.12223771 >>12223680 who the fuck removed the maracas I added?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:03:44 2020 No.12223776
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>>12221851
Honestly I feel like I would be such a good martian explorer. I'm a geology major and I fluctuate between staying in my one bedroom apartment for weeks at a time to going camping and rock climbing with my geobuddies for a week. I work well with groups but can literally confine myself in a tiny ass space for long periods as long as I have work or something to occupy my mind. I could live the rest of my days on Mars with no human interaction and function just fine. The hardest part of Mars missions early on will be dealing with the psychology of being so damn far

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:07:32 2020 No.12223791 >>12223771 when were they added? Current pic is from 10th of september

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:08:37 2020 No.12223793 File: 2.37 MB, 4094x2004, Screen Shot 2020-10-12 at 10.22.47 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What rocket should I make a video on next?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:11:16 2020 No.12223800 >>12223793 Aggregat 12

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:14:20 2020 No.12223807 >>12223791 Like a month or two ago. I deleted the image on my pc, so I'll have to look through the archive to find it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:17:35 2020 No.12223814 >>12223793 kosmos and tsyklon don't have any good youtube treatments afaik but that's probably because nobody cares about them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:20:22 2020 No.12223820 >>12223776 based, i wish i had geobuddies

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:23:02 2020 No.12223826 Kanye's insane presidential run has a new video up. it includes a short CGI clip of a... mercury? capsule going through space. aight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:25:13 2020 No.12223829 >>12223826 based kayne reviving the mercury program

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:26:00 2020 No.12223831 >>12223829 big mercury launched on a redstone heavy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:26:58 2020 No.12223836 >>12222582 Can't super guppy trace its roots all the way back to the B-29?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:27:58 2020 No.12223837 >>12223831 brb realism overhaul

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:28:18 2020 No.12223839

>>12222604
Seriously what's the fucking market for this thing? Falcon 9 and electron are both flying right now, and both are probably going to be cheaper than launcher one. Unless you absolutely need to have a dedicated launch from the equator, why the fuck would anyone use this piece of shit?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:29:41 2020 No.12223845 >>12223839 I dunno, but a 747 carrying what's basically a shitty IRBM on an underwing pylon looks pretty dope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:32:07 2020 No.12223854 Guys Reddit is mad because SpaceX has military contracts now. And it's all Musks' fault. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCulture/comments/j9qfm0/space_cunt_promises_new_and_faster_ways_to_commit/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:35:07 2020 No.12223863 >>12223854 just wait until they find out about what ICBMs were designed to do

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:35:12 2020 No.12223864 >>12223854 lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:36:27 2020 No.12223867 >>12223854 >SpaceX looking for ways to get more income in an industry where even the largest companies need regular handouts from the government I see nothing wrong with this.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:39:24 2020 No.12223876

>>12223854
>The Culture is a sci-fi story about the most powerful military force in the galaxy whose slogan is literally "Don't fuck with the Culture"
>Fans get mad when it's militarized
btw this subreddit hates Musk because he's an ebil capitalist who referenced The Culture in naming the SpaceX droneships Of Course I Still Love You and Just Read The Instructions. These are Culture spaceship names.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:40:46 2020 No.12223882 >>12223839 Welcome to the smallsat launch industry, where you have a dozen people selling you the same thing

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:42:25 2020 No.12223890

>>12223854
The whoest of the whos. But the general phenomenon is pretty funny to me. A lot of people apparently don't realize that a) every major aerospace company is either a defence contractor or heavily intertwined with them and b) orbital rockets are inherently considered a matter of national security

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:42:39 2020 No.12223891 >>12223867 Yeah don’t a lot of people criticize SpaceX for getting handouts? Lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:43:00 2020 No.12223893 >>12223826 >>12223844 Kanye's based and redpill levels are off the charts

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:44:01 2020 No.12223898 >>12223839 Any orbit from any airport, no weather restrictions. But yeah, I can't see any customers for that, not even the military.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:44:56 2020 No.12223902 >>12223882 it's a race to the bottom, like the electric scooter market

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:49:16 2020 No.12223921 >>12223891 People bitch at Tesla for getting billions in clean energy credits meanwhile the oil and gas industry gets 20 trillion per year in subsidies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:49:46 2020 No.12223925 >>12223882 if we just had d*pots then electron-tier launchers could get decent-sized satellites into GEO

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:57:13 2020 No.12223957

>>12223898
If that's enough to justify a rocket's existence then explain to me why the Pegasus rocket no longer has any customers? Sure, it might be more expensive than launcher one, but being able to launch from anywhere in the world should outweigh cost issues.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:57:42 2020 No.12223961 File: 72 KB, 442x594, B88F2769-A810-467F-B2D3-7E7975976622.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Here’s your Elon Musk bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:58:33 2020 No.12223965 >>12223854 Communists deserve swift executions.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:00:40 2020 No.12223972

>>12223876
My impression from the couple of books I've read is that the Culture series revolves around a decadent and dysfunctional empire where most of the main characters and ships are doing or witnessing the hard (often militaristic) work of maintaining the peace, but uh fuck war or whatever I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:06:39 2020 No.12223990 >>12223898 Israel would like to have that for themselves so they don‘t have to launch over Arabia or against the spin of the earth. But I don‘t know what an America based company would have to do with that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:10:14 2020 No.12223999 File: 3.55 MB, 2326x1550, sfg barrel 2020-10-12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223807 It got split into 2 "branches" so I just merged them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:12:09 2020 No.12224005 >>12223961 redpill me on ashlee vance. is he a hack?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:19:11 2020 No.12224027 Why does NASA hate the Shuttle C again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:26:43 2020 No.12224050 solid boosted hydrolox core

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:31:13 2020 No.12224066
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>>12224027
Its a side mount carrier so it has a lot of dead weight and higher per unit costs. It’s payload are also volume limited. During constellation, it was also shit on for throwing away 3 SSMEs per flight while being able to put like 70 tons into LEO.

However...it was probably the right choice. It requires zero redesign of the tank, which is/was the main problem of the SLS. It also uses less SSMEs than the SLS does. In a report it was shown that 2 of them (with an upper stage) could do a 4-man lunar sortie with Orion.

Pros:
>Cheap as shit to develop
>Does not need a redesign of any tanks at all
>Reuses like 95% of the shuttle infrastructure
>Short development time. If development started in 2011, it was estimated to start flying in 2014.
>Can carry out a lunar sortie in 2 launches

Cons
>Throw away 3 SSMEs on every flight
>Giant cargo carrier is very heavy and has a huge mass penalty
>giant cargo carrier is also very expensive and probably will make the thing cost more than an in-line launcher per flight
>Payloads are volume limited to 7.6 meters. Mars missions would be tricky.
>Crew capsule is put right next to the orange tank, and if the tank explodes they fly through the boom.
>Requires the development of the J-2X engine for lunar missions, which adds more to development cost.
>Even adding a fifth segment to the boosters, and up rating the SSME thrust, the thing can put like 80 tons into orbit max.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:32:14 2020 No.12224069 >>12224050 Hydrogen and Oxygen snow/snice mixed together? Nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:32:35 2020 No.12224070 >>12224005 The Elon Musk book is really good but it’s a period piece. There is zero about Starship or anything, and it’s kinda outdated given how far SpaceX has come

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:34:02 2020 No.12224079 File: 242 KB, 1920x1315, space_shuttle__chaffee_ox_132_usaf_mission_lunar_2_by_bagera3005_dcx5bzo-fullview.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] R8

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:36:01 2020 No.12224089 >>12224079 Based but the space retard in me is gonna point out that the shuttle ET can only have two parallel boosters because of its thrust beam in the intertank. More than two are going to need a substantial redesign of the tank

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:37:28 2020 No.12224096 >putting the fucking SSMEs on the shuttle where they are just dead weight once the tank detaches instead of just putting them on the tank for what purpose

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:37:37 2020 No.12224097 >>12224066 >>Requires the development of the J-2X engine for lunar missions, which adds more to development cost. Didn't they end up mostly developing the J-2X anyways as the contracts were signed before Obama cancelled Constellation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:38:48 2020 No.12224102 >>12223854 Who cares what retards on Reddit think

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:38:54 2020 No.12224103 >>12222611 Beluga XL building was also an inefficient clusterfuck where they made parts for it all over europe. Moving complete wings to Toulouse for installation took weeks because they were so fucking large and had to pass through old villages.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:39:19 2020 No.12224107

>>12224027
It came during a time when NASA was struggling to find a reason to keep the Shuttle flying and keep NASA manned spaceflight going. Shuttle-C would've been essentially a cheaper unmanned shuttle while keeping shuttle contractors happy. NASA was terrified of this prospect because it would kill manned spaceflight for them, so they had the design buried.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:39:45 2020 No.12224108 >>12224096 Same as then engines were the most expensive part of a rocket. Re-using them was a smart idea, making them the most complicated engines flown at the time wasn't

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:40:05 2020 No.12224109 Wait isn't Redstone Heavy just Saturn IB

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:40:11 2020 No.12224110 >>12223972 It’s supposedly a retarded anarcho-communist, the dumbest ideology on earth, fantasy, but the author was smart enough to know that doesn’t work with human psychology, so it’s actually an AI dictatorship

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:40:28 2020 No.12224112 >>12224096 Well the theory was they would reuse the very expensive rocket engines instead of having to build new ones every flight

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:40:59 2020 No.12224113 File: 39 KB, 800x565, 200253705-800x_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223179 This. Fuck CIA for ruining our march to success in small submarines.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:41:47 2020 No.12224118 >>12224079 >what's in the penis head? >why does Shuttle have canards >why is it repainted black which will fuck the thermal management >Shuttle isn't rated for lunar return anyways >MOAR BOOSTAHS

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:43:17 2020 No.12224125
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>>12223164
>>12224113
Press F to pay respects
>tfw you will never have a Canadian launch industry based around the Arrow yeeting small sat launchers at high speed and altitude

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:43:22 2020 No.12224126
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>>12224107
NASA has a pretty long history of cancelling any project that challenged the Shuttle until Columbia. Either because A) Like you said something like the Shuttle-C might make manned flight redundant or B) Shuttle contractors getting worried that a smaller cheaper manned craft might make the Shuttle redundant

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:43:35 2020 No.12224127 File: 320 KB, 287x713, 1516493936_1475007364209.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12223999 does anyone have the faster version of this gif?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:45:00 2020 No.12224131 >>12224126 Well, now that you mention it, the combination of Shuttle C with HL20/Atlas would indeed make the Shuttle entirely pointless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:48:23 2020 No.12224140 >>12223867 I believe rather than income its military backing they're looking for to make it harder to fuck them over with some nonsense

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:50:43 2020 No.12224150 >>12224131 >before Columbia NASA was expecting to keep the shuttle flying until at least 2020 The entire Shuttle program really did become this rigid old guard. It's no surprise they were quick to cancel the X-33 even after spending so much on it

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:54:35 2020 No.12224163
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>>12224125
A dedicated interceptor was an outdated concept by the time the Arrow was in development. The Soviet nuclear threat was rapidly shifting from bombers to ICBMs, and the Arrow was going to be effectively useless by the time it was introduced.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:55:30 2020 No.12224168 >>12223074 If you can turn Starship into a wet workshop, you can build a dry workshop module for cheaper than a Starship

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:58:30 2020 No.12224178 >>12224168 STARSHIP VENUS FREE-RETURN WET WORKSHOP WHEN

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:58:35 2020 No.12224179 >>12223277 Pssh lmao this has got to be a joke

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:01:02 2020 No.12224195

>>12224163
Sure, other than the fact that the MiG 25 and MiG 31 are still in service today as interceptors. Interceptors were SEEN as outdated because "lol ICBMs", but it turns out 99% of conflict doesn't involve ICBMs. And look at the poor F-104, they dragooned the poor fucker into CAS and it still did okay.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:02:37 2020 No.12224206

>>12223074
>>12224178
>>12224168
Why not just use the Starship tank tooling to make 9m diameter stainless steel station segments? You could even double or triple wall it and fill the gap with water for way more micrometeor protection than anything else flying.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:03:24 2020 No.12224210

>>12224195
>the MiG 25 and MiG 31 are still in service today as interceptors
That's primarily because Russia is poor and needs all the functional airframes they can get. Every first world air force switched from dedicated interceptors to multi-role and air superiority fighters back in the 80s for a good reason.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:06:41 2020 No.12224217

>>12224206
Well it needs to go in the payload bay, but you could do this anyway because the Starship tank "tooling" is basically just a sheet steel bender. You'd want some kind of foam for the outermost hull gap so that a micrometeor doesn't immediately space all your water supply/shielding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:07:32 2020 No.12224224 >>12224217 >You'd want some kind of foam Would the foam be orange?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:09:59 2020 No.12224232

>>12224210
>That's primarily because Russia is poor and needs all the functional airframes they can get
We're talking about Canada right now. Still flying OG F-18s because we can't even afford Super Hornets Canada. The Arrow would absolutely still be chugging along with half a dozen LEPs if we had adopted it. It would have ended up dragooned into a multi role and weighed down with a bajillion drop tanks, and Canadians would be proud of it anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:11:37 2020 No.12224239 >>12224224 Over my dead body, Shelby.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:14:49 2020 No.12224249

>>12224232
>The Arrow would absolutely still be chugging along with half a dozen LEPs if we had adopted it
...which would've been even worse than the legacy hornets they currently use. The Hornet platform has an established ecosystem with a number of costumers to keep costs down. Canada would be the only Arrow operator, meaning any upgrades would be comparatively expensive. It sucks that Canada's aerospace industry effectively died when the program was cancelled, but that doesn't mean the Arrow would've been worth keeping.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:17:15 2020 No.12224261 >>12224168 Shut up

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:19:29 2020 No.12224267 >>12224249 Shut up our entire country is rotten through worse than the UK and the Arrow was the last cool thing Canada ever built

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:20:15 2020 No.12224272 >>12224261 My apologies, wetworkshopautism-kun

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:20:16 2020 No.12224273 >>12224267 nice freudian slip there, weakleaf

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:22:14 2020 No.12224280 >>12224267 On the bright side, unlike the bongs, Canadian aerospace engineers have an easy time getting jobs in the US aero industry, where they're paid way more than they'd ever make in leafland.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:24:24 2020 No.12224285 >>12224273 >freudian slip it's not a slip if I'm open about the fact Canada hasn't produced anything worthwhile since the fucking Ram tank, Canadian industry is just horrifically sad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:25:27 2020 No.12224288 >a fucking arm

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:27:40 2020 No.12224294 File: 137 KB, 1000x449, 5-canadian-dollars-banknote-frontier-series-reverse-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224288 >they put it on the currency

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:28:08 2020 No.12224295 >>12224288 That, and very deep philosophical discussions about the nature of human psychology during extended spaceflights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwkKFWOWGzU

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:32:09 2020 No.12224303 >>12224294 I canadarm precice enough to grab an onahole and pleasure you with it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:33:35 2020 No.12224306 File: 227 KB, 2405x1583, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224294 >>12224288 Hey Chris Hadfield is a gem. And he did more to get the public interested in space than almost anyone. That has to be worth something,

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:35:15 2020 No.12224312 >>12224306 >Hey Chris Hadfield is a gem Don't be so sure >>12224295

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:44:24 2020 No.12224330 File: 98 KB, 880x660, a-propos-canadarm2-id-7805-eng.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224303 Can't you just stick it into the latching end?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:47:09 2020 No.12224337 >>12224330 >servicing the ISS since 2001 It certainly sounds like it's designed for that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:51:22 2020 No.12224349 >>12224337 I wanna be serviced by canadarm

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:51:51 2020 No.12224351 >>12224337 >tfw no ISS mommydom to service

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:52:08 2020 No.12224352 >>12224349 >that feel good, eh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:53:05 2020 No.12224356 File: 49 KB, 255x512, faster.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:55:07 2020 No.12224360 >>12224066 Why could it only put 80 tons into orbit when the shuttle stack could do 120?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:55:40 2020 No.12224362 >>12224356 not fast enough

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:56:01 2020 No.12224363
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>>12223999
My turn.
>>12224118
I assume the canards are for an escape route should the SRBs royally fuck up (as expected).
>>12224351
You could probably service a starship with a mommy AI or something.
>>12224356
SHIFT HIM INTO FULL SPEED

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 18:58:25 2020 No.12224370 >>12224356 it's fucking vishnu

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:00:58 2020 No.12224380 Scientifically speaking, what is the total mass of all objects launched to orbit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:01:29 2020 No.12224384 >>12224370 >"I am become death, destroyer of boing"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:07:58 2020 No.12224405 File: 1.20 MB, 1920x1080, Hyperspeed Maracas.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224362 Did you say faster? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Cn6iX4rYU

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:14:59 2020 No.12224427 >>12224405 not a gif, but if you turn it into clipart i'll be happy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:20:37 2020 No.12224444 File: 1.02 MB, 798x1175, 1597433587656.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224370 If I was Vishnu I would accept this as worship and bless all launches unless it was funny

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:34:21 2020 No.12224474 >>12224444 About time he got something good. Shiva already monopolized CERN.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:48:46 2020 No.12224505 did they really select a flavor of the month youtuber to go on elon's jap rocket? What if he's no longer relevant by launch date, how does that work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:50:44 2020 No.12224512 >>12224505 Just send up Michael Stevens if that happens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:51:39 2020 No.12224513 >>12224512 >Michael Stevens would unironically be based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:52:05 2020 No.12224516 File: 183 KB, 766x1024, 118D1524-AE3B-4B20-B47A-8A58A524D42B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224503 Fuuuuuck that

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:53:22 2020 No.12224520 >>12224516 >Ywn see low earth orbit dogfights between Big G Gemini and TKS over control of Salyut 32

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:54:09 2020 No.12224522 File: 52 KB, 800x800, Mare_Tranquillitatis_pit_crater (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OwO whats in here???

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 19:55:45 2020 No.12224526 File: 113 KB, 1024x1024, 1024px-Pavonis_Mons_lava_tube_skylight_crop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OwO

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:19:10 2020 No.12224576 >>12224522 Reminds me of my wife’s gaping butthole on saturday

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:19:50 2020 No.12224580 File: 259 KB, 540x1174, Lunar_collapse_pits.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] imagine the cave spiders!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:20:35 2020 No.12224584 File: 1.17 MB, 1200x1200, fixed.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224405 >>12224427

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:24:06 2020 No.12224596 >>12223999 Oh shit. Thank you, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:25:44 2020 No.12224600 >>12224516 does anyone have that meme nasa paper investigating infantry weapons for moon use

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:32:26 2020 No.12224619 File: 129 KB, 723x844, sausage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224600 oh found it again, it was army not nasa https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3038458/The-Meanderings-of-a-Weapon-Oriented-Mind-When.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:33:31 2020 No.12224622 File: 209 KB, 819x1023, 15117470963_e40b64dbb4_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why are der so many thrusters

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:39:56 2020 No.12224639 File: 283 KB, 1024x1037, 1024px-ALSEP_AS16-113-18377.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] firing mortars on the moon again when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:42:10 2020 No.12224646 >>12224619 >lunar gyrojet neat, but also why? the only issues with using an M16 on the Moon is cooling and dust.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:45:02 2020 No.12224653 >>12224622 Are those V2 engines? A lot of von Braun's early ideas were giant V2 clusters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:47:13 2020 No.12224658 File: 549 KB, 360x359, 1405373403543.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224584 we reached interstellar escape velocity

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:47:33 2020 No.12224659

>>12224622
>>12224653
http://www.astronautix.com/v/vonbraunlunarlander.html
>No fewer than fifty engineers and scientists would fly to the moon aboard three spacecraft assembled in earth orbit. At 3964 metric tons each, one of these spacecraft alone, already in earth orbit, had the same mass as the Saturn V used 16 years later to launch the actual first lunar voyage from the earth's surface. Two of the lunar landers would house 20 crew, and one 10 crew plus 259 metric tons of cargo for lunar exploration. The cargo lander would be left on the lunar surface; the crew would return in two of the landers, 25 men per spacecraft.
kinda based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:49:51 2020 No.12224661 >>12224659 >tfw missed out on an era of rinky dink oversized expeditions to the moon in the 50's

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:50:14 2020 No.12224662 >>12224659 bruh they could sing shanties on the way to the moon doh

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:51:30 2020 No.12224663 >>12224639 you wouldn't be thinking of militarizing space now would you you dirty colonialist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:52:41 2020 No.12224664 File: 582 KB, 993x1623, 1598750086180.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224663 Can you imagine militarizing space? Unthinkable!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:54:07 2020 No.12224667 >>12224664 space is pure. in fact no one should even go there in the first place and we should focus our efforts on improving lives here on planet earth

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:56:11 2020 No.12224672

>>12224646
because it's a lot simpler mechanically so dust and cooling isn't as much of a worry, you don't have to worry about casings flying around and potentially causing some kind of problem, and the design can easily be operating in big huge clumsy space suit
if you have experience with the lunar environment and figure out how well regular guns work and any adaptations you might need to make then yeah you can probably do way better, but this was just guessing at how to make something that should work reliably on the first go even in uncertain conditions

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:56:15 2020 No.12224673 File: 63 KB, 1280x738, soiwors.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224664 >>12224663

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:56:47 2020 No.12224675 File: 35 KB, 595x312, 1590954294087.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224667 Exactly, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:57:52 2020 No.12224677 File: 2.85 MB, 960x720, 1569914595300.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224673 >Star Wars Literally the worst of space fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:57:55 2020 No.12224678 >>12223089 ttthe issue with the N1 was that it had shit engines that exploded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:57:58 2020 No.12224679 >>12224658 https://youtu.be/ASM6dozyyhU?t=249

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:58:09 2020 No.12224680 >>12224673 my face when biden wins and cancels artemis and all associated manned space flight beyond earth orbit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 20:59:21 2020 No.12224681 water cooled guns making a comeback for space when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:02:15 2020 No.12224687 >>12224680 That’s just letting SpaceX have the solar system Lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:02:40 2020 No.12224688 >>12224677 but also the most normie and popular, despite sois being insufferable pacifists. some kind of cognitive dissonance

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:02:46 2020 No.12224689 File: 739 KB, 2000x1334, soyuz-ms-17-crew.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Soyuz 2.1a launch, Oct 14, 05:45 UTC That's 28 hours from now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:05:24 2020 No.12224694 >>12224689 While this may seem just another routine Soyuz launch, this one is important as it represents Roscosmos losing their last line of international life support, after losing the commercial market to SpaceX

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:05:47 2020 No.12224695 File: 2.82 MB, 720x304, 1535498675967.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224688 Because they're stuck in their childhood. Don't get me wrong, it's a great series of movies to watch when you're younger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:05:57 2020 No.12224696 >>12224679 THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THESE GUYS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:06:40 2020 No.12224699 >>12224696 You're welcome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:06:49 2020 No.12224700 >>12224688 Pacifism is suicide.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:07:50 2020 No.12224701

>>12224688
>but also the most normie and popular,
As someone who was a part-time normie before Corona, everyone I know was mostly sick of Star Wars
>t. saw rise of skywalker with a gang of over 20 and we were all giving out about it on the way to the pub

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:10:05 2020 No.12224708 >>12224700 indeed

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:11:24 2020 No.12224712 >>12224658 Based oldfag gif

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:12:54 2020 No.12224715 >>12224701 disney has been creatively bankrupt for ages, and star wars was barely substantive to begin with. it's popularity is mainly due to manchildren, not zoomers

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:13:06 2020 No.12224716 File: 301 KB, 520x678, 1377012373485.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224712 >tfw started posting regularly in 2010 and still consider myself a newfag where did the years go

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:15:02 2020 No.12224719 >>12224716 you are a fucking newfag

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:15:40 2020 No.12224720 >>12224719 >t. 2016 election tourist

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:20:48 2020 No.12224728 File: 122 KB, 640x713, 1484419998072.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224127 Looks like it's not cropped very well, but here's the fast one that I saved.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:21:08 2020 No.12224731 >>12224720 I always thought of 2016 as the second reddit invasion

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:21:51 2020 No.12224732 File: 85 KB, 960x540, spock-960.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224294 Can that face be Spocked?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:22:14 2020 No.12224735 File: 67 KB, 880x640, 1479764079004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Propulsively and chemically speaking, where do we go after FFSC methalox?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:23:02 2020 No.12224737 >>12224731 when was the first, gamergate?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:26:19 2020 No.12224743 >>12224720 oh yeah??? ▲ ▲ ▲

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:29:15 2020 No.12224747 >>12224743 unequivocally irrevocably BTFO

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:29:22 2020 No.12224748 >>12224737 2010-2013

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:29:23 2020 No.12224749
File: 105 KB, 874x401, J2ZQz0H.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>12224294
>>12224732
oh wait, here it is on a different version of that style
>>12224743
At this point I think we're just going to have to get the Unicode consortium to add a code point for a triforce.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:30:04 2020 No.12224751 >>12224715 Zootopia was good, if only for the fact that it had great characters to lewd. >>12224716 Anyone who came to 4chan before 2005 is a newfag. If you don't know what Ron Paul /b/, or SINEP, or puddi, or Crescent Fresh is, you're a newfag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:31:16 2020 No.12224754 >>12224735 Nuclear

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:31:36 2020 No.12224755 >>12224751 >crescent fresh oh man

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:31:54 2020 No.12224758 File: 78 KB, 267x200, 1351640237906.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224751 >Ron Paul /b/, or SINEP, or puddi, or Crescent Fresh what are these, old reddit memes like rage comics?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:32:39 2020 No.12224759 File: 11 KB, 314x266, 1370533776064.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224751 >Anyone who came to 4chan before 2005 is a newfag >before

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:32:57 2020 No.12224760 >>12224754 it's pronounced nuclear

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:35:21 2020 No.12224763 File: 3.29 MB, 336x252, mmm.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224759

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:38:40 2020 No.12224770 >>12224759 I meant after.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:44:50 2020 No.12224783 >>12224735 hydrolox. It has a higher ISP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:46:06 2020 No.12224784 >>12224751 ebaums raid on IAC when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:46:18 2020 No.12224785 >>12224294 >>12224732 Canadian money is so cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:47:25 2020 No.12224786 >>12224751 >great characters to lewd haha imagine that right

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:49:37 2020 No.12224791 >>12224785 if you're down for monopoly money as an official nationally representative currency then sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:50:27 2020 No.12224793 >>12224306 He's reddit incarnate though

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:52:25 2020 No.12224794 >>12224793 He only became reddit incarnate due to reddit latching on to him. And if we're going by that logic then supporting spacex is the most reddit thing you can do considering the cult around elon on most space subreddits

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:53:03 2020 No.12224795

>>12224576
haha yeah lad! Heck yeah!! I, too, enjoy gaping my wife's bootyhole on the weekend!
Dank post, lad. Absolutely dank.
haha goddamn that's dank. I've sure got egg on my face
haha gosh you're so goddamn funny, lad! So funny! Makes me laugh!
I'll kill you, nigger. I'll fucking kill you. You bitch. You fucking punk ass faggot. You nigger bitch.
Fuck you.
Fuck you, you fucking piece of shit. You want to fucking die? Is that what you want?
You want to get fucked? You want this dick, bitch? Fuck you, yeah suck it.
Suck my cock.
You want this up your ass, faggot? Yeah, you do. You do because you're a fucking faggot. You fucking bitch.
Take this dick. Yeah shut up fag, take my cock up your ass. You fucking fag.
Get stuffed, bitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:54:09 2020 No.12224799 >>12224791 you're just mad because your money is boring

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:55:22 2020 No.12224802 >>12224751 >Crescent Fresh >giga puddi >old Uncress of you to say

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:56:24 2020 No.12224803 >>12224689 Think those Russian guys will double team that bitch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:56:25 2020 No.12224804 >>12223015 At least First and Economy class will take you safely to the ISS, but there is also Boeing class, that not even a test pilot is willing to fly

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:56:28 2020 No.12224805 File: 50 KB, 318x313, Irish_pound_(reverse).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224799 our money used to be cool until we started to suck on the EU's cock

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:58:50 2020 No.12224808 >>12224803 They have already spent months together, training for the flight I mean

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 21:59:16 2020 No.12224814 >>12224784 fuck man ebaumics

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:00:25 2020 No.12224817 >>12224805 based homelander

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:01:26 2020 No.12224822 >>12224794 He almost fricking died in space from crying like a little bitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:02:21 2020 No.12224823 File: 66 KB, 381x381, Italy_1Lira.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224805 I always found it a bit bland, tb h. >t. numismatist

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:02:30 2020 No.12224824 >>12224795 You said what we were all thinking, based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:06:15 2020 No.12224837 >>12224822 oh no not the heckin hadfield-arino!!!

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:06:22 2020 No.12224838
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>>12224758
Ron Paul /b/ was my first introduction to the 4chan filter, and puddi was a long lasting meme, but never heard of the other two.
So clearly I'm a newfag. Too bad that I didn't think to keep image numbers before 2008. Some of them were from 2chan though.
>>12224785
>Canadian money is so cool
The real cool stuff is Canadian Tire money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:16:31 2020 No.12224867 >>12224805 Éire go, Deo!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:22:39 2020 No.12224888 File: 72 KB, 509x720, 5eb03b14647c7c965087242b57456569.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224838 Canadian Tire money is based but Trailer Park Boys money is kino.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:23:00 2020 No.12224890 >>12221661 seems like SN8 is actually getting aerocovers for the nosecone

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:26:48 2020 No.12224899 >CAD >AUD honestly speaking, which is the bigger meme

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:28:41 2020 No.12224903 >>12224899 USD

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:28:55 2020 No.12224905 File: 21 KB, 447x223, Norwegian_200_kroner_reverse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224899 Have you seen what they use in Norway? Literal color gradients.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:30:15 2020 No.12224909 >>12224890 >aerocovers Like, to cover the joints on the canards?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:32:47 2020 No.12224916 >>12224899 its always aussies i hear giving out about inflation so i'll go with that

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:47:11 2020 No.12224940 File: 177 KB, 553x752, shuttlepassenger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >hop in anon what do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:47:40 2020 No.12224941 >>12224675 >We cannot voice support for a dangerous, oppressive regime just because it lets us launch rockets The hell we can't

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:48:57 2020 No.12224944 >>12224940 I would rather die trying to get to space than never hopping at the chance so yeah I’d do it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:51:48 2020 No.12224949 >>12224940 imagine the smell

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:52:50 2020 No.12224950 scientifically speaking, what happens when you rip a stinker in a spacesuit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:55:08 2020 No.12224956 >>12224950 I’ll tell you when I do it haha

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:59:33 2020 No.12224967 >>12223437 This actually makes him seem more normal

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:05:17 2020 No.12224978

>>12224956
haha great lad! Let me leave you with a sample off my new mixtape. It's called "Shitty Shitty (Poo-poo yeah)"

Hurnggghh!
Aight! Yeah!
Haha!
Yeah you know it's J-Rizzay!
Aight nigga lemme show these muthafuckas how it's done!

Shitty, a shitty shitty
Poo poo yeah shitty!
Shitty, a poo shit yeah shitty now
Ain't no half steppin'!

Shit lads droppin trou in a Payless
Poop ducks with a fuck in my Chuck Suck
A blow poop in a doop on my ring side
A nigga smirks at my cheeks while he gettin snide

Shitty, a shitty shitty
Poo poo yeah shitty!
Shitty, a poo shit yeah shitty now
Ain't no half steppin'!

Niggas ducking and they cluckin in my shit house
Bitches ploppin buckets down when they see Klaus
Fuck a nigga and his poo poo in the road
A bitch'll gimme poopy pants when I show this chode

Shitty, a shitty shitty
Poo poo yeah shitty!
Shitty, a poo shit yeah shitty now
Ain't no half steppin'!

Shitty, a shitty shitty
Poo poo yeah shitty!
Shitty, a poo shit yeah shitty now
Ain't no half steppin'!

haha yeah PooPoo Boyz!! We in this shit for life! Niggas stinky up in this bitch! haha
Yeah nigga you betta hold your nose nigga! We don't play like that! I ain't here to clench these cheeks nigga! Watch your ass or I'll make you smelly nigga!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:07:21 2020 No.12224984 >>12224978 haha :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:09:01 2020 No.12224989 >>12224909 yes. a lot of people for whatever reason assumed SN8 wouldn't get aerocovers, I guess they were still thinking of the Mk1 disaster

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:09:51 2020 No.12224992 File: 75 KB, 600x419, photonSail04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:11:20 2020 No.12224996 File: 3.56 MB, 1164x1200, 1 - yk75Y1t - The Hope of Mankind.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:11:36 2020 No.12224999 i just went on other /sfg/ space threads and its all old space is the only way/space is hard shills and flat earthers, never again

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:17:38 2020 No.12225013 >>12224999 What other /sfg/ threads are there?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:22:17 2020 No.12225020 >>12225013 sorry, meant to say other /sci/ space threads

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:24:15 2020 No.12225025 File: 131 KB, 600x800, photonSail02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what is this style of art called

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:25:17 2020 No.12225026 >>12225013 >he doesn't know about the real /sfg/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:33:08 2020 No.12225043 >>12225020 Say what you mean, nigger. A white man doesn't have the time to listen to you babble on about additional /sfg/ threads that don't exist. I work hard for my money, and I value my time. You should, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:34:04 2020 No.12225046 File: 59 KB, 1200x1200, 5447a47ce3acf.image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12225026 God damn it you better tell me right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:36:59 2020 No.12225058 File: 44 KB, 640x427, download (4) (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] jupiter aerobraking when

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:37:21 2020 No.12225061 File: 19 KB, 480x480, 1602149140803.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12224999 Still better than space threads on /g/ or /pol/.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:39:11 2020 No.12225067

>>12225046
I was only nine years old. I loved space so much, I had all the merchandise and movies. I'd pray to space every night before I go to bed, thanking for the life I've been given. "Space is love", I would say, "Boeing is shit". My dad hears me and calls me an Elon simp. I knew he was just jealous for my devotion of space. I called him an oldspace fag. He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep. I'm crying now and my face hurts. I lay in bed and it's really cold. A warmth is moving towards me. I feel something touch me. It's Big Jim Bridenstine. I'm so happy. He whispers in my ear, "Do the Dew". He grabs me with his powerful administrator hands, and puts me on my hands and knees. I spread my ass-cheeks for Jim. He penetrates my butthole. It hurts so much, but I do it for Jim. I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water. I push against his force. I want to please Jim. He roars a mighty roar, as he fills my butt with his love. My dad walks in. Jim looks him straight in the eye, and says, "Moon by 2024". Jim leaves through my window. Space is love. Space is life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:42:22 2020 No.12225075 File: 36 KB, 800x450, Like_That's_Ever_Gonna_Happen_Banner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12225067

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:49:04 2020 No.12225099 >>12225067 I do want to hug jim, i bet he has a very warm and strong hug

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:50:14 2020 No.12225101 >>12225067 Based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:56:57 2020 No.12225125 >>12225067 It's been so long since I've seen any variation of this pasta

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:59:45 2020 No.12225134 >tfw doing my weekly update of RO/RP-1 from the latest github files who /living on the edge/ here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:01:44 2020 No.12225141 >>12225134 not as risky a contracting out parts of your gas generator

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:03:01 2020 No.12225148 >>12225134 I saw kerbalism got updated with full ISRU support. If another few hours slogging through bees is the price of a real moonbase I'm willing to pay it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:07:32 2020 No.12225157 File: 24 KB, 97x116, 1371647075881.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12225061 Between the death of /kspg/ and the arise of here there was no place on this accursed website to talk serious spaceflight business

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:09:42 2020 No.12225159 File: 57 KB, 657x627, 1479757558004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] subcooled syntin FFSC

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:17:12 2020 No.12225172 File: 45 KB, 409x409, 1475570301374.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12225159 >FFSC for fuck sake capcom?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:20:44 2020 No.12225185 >>12225172 full flow staged combustion, the raptor meme

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:22:04 2020 No.12225188
File: 102 KB, 1703x1505, 1479737660001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

why the fuck did nobody actually do full flow staged combustion until spacex
>muh rd270
>muh integrated powerhead
if it doesnt get off the ground at least once under its own poer it doesn't count

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:23:10 2020 No.12225191 >>12225185 >the raptor meme oh please, starship will never fly. this is a BE-4 Blue Origin thread. slow and steady anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:24:29 2020 No.12225195 >>12225188 >the last image in this thread was used by this ummmm based....?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:27:37 2020 No.12225203 Someone make a new thread. And before you say it, no I won't do it, fuck you

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:28:29 2020 No.12225206 >>12225203 Make it yourself faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:28:39 2020 No.12225207 Thread has staged. Ignition: >>12225205

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:44:15 2020 No.12225271 >>12223585 >adding SRB add Raptor instead

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 00:51:12 2020 No.12225289 >>12225191 >starship will never fly >starship has flown thrice what meaneth thine post

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