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Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:10:35 2020 No.12194166 [Reply] [Original]

a set? isnt that basically an array?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:10:51 2020 No.12194167 >>12194166 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:14:02 2020 No.12194178 >>12194166 An array is an ordered set. A set is generally too unorganized for popular datatypes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:26:07 2020 No.12194205 >>12194166 of numbers, yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:26:55 2020 No.12194208 >>12194166 yes, but it's more general to say that a set is just a tensor

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:54:55 2020 No.12194271 >>12194208 But a tensor is just an array of numbers, or I guess generally, an array of arrays.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 21:56:44 2020 No.12194277 can you define it in C#?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 23:23:10 2020 No.12194525 >>12194178 >an array is ordered set wrong majorly accepted definition

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 00:27:23 2020 No.12194610 >>12194166 >/g/tourist

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 00:33:36 2020 No.12194630 >>12194271 But arrays are just trivial tensors

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 00:34:40 2020 No.12194632 >>12194525 okay von neumann, a penny for your thoughts

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 00:37:01 2020 No.12194638 >>12194525 lmao it absolutely is. An array is a collection of elements from a universe U indexed by a keys. You could inductively define an array as tuples with the idea that [A1, A2, A3] = (((A1), A2), A3) or a similar list structure as seen in lisp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 00:38:09 2020 No.12194639 >>12194525 don't be the guy that dies on the ordinal hill over arrays lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:23:29 2020 No.12194737 >>12194638 how do you express an uncountably infinite set as an array? oh wait, you can’t

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:25:00 2020 No.12194743 An array is ordered A set is unordered

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:25:41 2020 No.12194745 >>12194525 >an array is a set when an array is a set nice tautology

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:36:06 2020 No.12194770

>>12194737
>how do you uncountably infinite set as an array
i'm not claiming that arrays are same construction as sets, but one can construct arrays inductively from any naive theory of sets. It's like you want me to say the most simple finite data structure out there has the same expressive power as ZF.
Again, as someone said, this is not the hill you want to die especially if you've read any sort of mathematical logic. arrays are clearly just a structure to do sequential operations on in the same way you would work with finite sets

On the other hand, eat shit
https://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~mhe/papers/exhaustive.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:41:00 2020 No.12194782 >>12194178 an ordered set is an ordered set.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:43:32 2020 No.12194788 Arrays are actually functions that map an integer to some other thing that you defined previously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 01:47:23 2020 No.12194795 >>12194743 "Ordered" means that the members can be compared with =,< and >.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 02:04:55 2020 No.12194837 >>12194166 An array can have duplicate elements whereas a set does not. There are sets in programming too though.

Anonymous Mon Oct 5 03:40:21 2020 No.12195075

>>12194782
>>12194795
no, ordered in a combinatorial sense in the sense that bins are distinguishable and position in the representation is meaningful. not ordered with a partial or total ordering
>>12194837
multisets can have duplicates, and it's not hard to construct from a basic set. just consider it a function f: S -> N where S is some finite set, and for every s in S, f(s) is the number of duplicates of s

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 03:49:20 2020 No.12195092 >>12194166 >a set is an array Ok then cocksucker, the reals are a set, please enlist them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 03:53:02 2020 No.12195097 >>12195092 Well order theorem bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 04:05:34 2020 No.12195115 >>12194166 >>12194167 >>12194178 >>12194205 >>12194208 >>12194271 >>12194638 Are you people trolling, or really this retarded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 04:30:11 2020 No.12195140 >>12195115 I don't know man, what do you think?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 04:32:08 2020 No.12195144 File: 944 KB, 1440x596, 1599035963904.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12195115 >he doesn't know about the 2 week period where was /sci/ was more unbearable than usual

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 04:49:34 2020 No.12195158 >>12195115 >trolling What's trolling? Define it in C#

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 05:23:50 2020 No.12195210 >>12194166 a tuple? isnt that basically an array?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:06:08 2020 No.12195300 >>12195210 Yes. An array of numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:07:56 2020 No.12195305 everything is an array of numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 06:37:10 2020 No.12195378 >>12195210 >>12195300 Thought a tuple was a set that couldn't lose or gain any of more members?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 5 07:46:29 2020 No.12195447 An array isn't an ordered set, since arrays can have repeating values

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