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What happens when an unstoppable and indestructible object collides with an immovable, indestructible wall?

>> No.1219137

false will happen.

>> No.1219140

they combine to make bacon

>> No.1219143

Unstoppable object moves through immovable wall. Both objects remain perfectly intact.

>> No.1219144

An impossible theoretical result will happen.

>> No.1219149

No.

>> No.1219154

Unstoppable object means that there exists no object which can stop it.
Immovable wall means that there exists no object which the wall is unable to stop.

Those two objects just cannot coexist in the same universe.

>> No.1219157

>>1219154
much less collide.

>> No.1219160

>>1219154

They can in a hypothetical universe.

>> No.1219164

>>1219160
no, no they can't

>> No.1219167

>>1219143

I agree, neither is tangible, so neither interacts with the other.

>> No.1219170

An unstoppable force has infinite energy.

An immovable object has infinite inertia.

No. Just no.

>> No.1219199

They couldn't just cancel out couldn't they?

>> No.1219231

>>1219160

If your hypothetical universe isn't logically consistent, yes. But then again, that would be a dumb and useless hypothetical universe.

>> No.1219239

ITT fags don't know about different sized infinities

>> No.1219262

>>1219239
ITT fags don't realise that is irrelevant.

>> No.1219269

>>1219239

Lol wut

Infinity is infinity, if they had defined sizes, it wouldn't be infinity.

>> No.1219284

Unstopable force breaks a hole through immovable object and keeps going. Force hasn't stopped, Object hasnt moved.

>> No.1219308

>>1219284

Part of the object has.

>> No.1219310

>>1219284
>Unstopable force breaks a hole through immovable object

part of object has moved, and OP specified it was indestructible anyway

>> No.1219314

>>1219269
>Infinity is infinity, if they had defined sizes, it wouldn't be infinity.

Get the fuck out. Seriously. Just get the fuck out. Not knowing isn't the problem. Insisting on being wrong when it would take you half a minute to confirm or disprove your opinion is lazy and stupid. Come back when you're not 13 anymore.

>> No.1219316

nothing because these don't exist

>> No.1219326

>>1219314
No u, it doesn't matter what infinity you use to mathematically model this situation, the other one has to be the same, if one was modeled with the countable infinite, and the other with a greater one, one of the objects could not be as described, as the other one would have the ability to either move or stop it. So in this particular situation he is right, there is only one infinite in this model.

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>>1219314

You could try being constructive for once and just tell me what's wrong with my reasoning.

>> No.1219341

>>1219326

Oh, that's not even the point.

>Infinity is infinity,

The general claim is the point.

>> No.1219344

>>1219269

There's an infinite number of rational numbers.
There's an infinite number of real numbers.
There are more real numbers than rational numbers.

>> No.1219347

>>1219328

Why would I? If you're too lazy to research your own claims, I don't see why I have to do it for you.

>> No.1219351

They pass through eachother, satisfying the conditions

>> No.1219357

In a magic universe where these two magic entities can exist, I assume magic would happen.

>> No.1219360

>>1219347

Okay, I looked it up, and it still has nothing to do with this situation.

Ergo, you're still a fucktard.

>> No.1219371

Something logically impossible will happen.

>> No.1219378

>>1219269
Take your mouse and divide it into 2, repeat ad infinitum
Take your keyboard and divide it into 2, repeat ad infinitum

The keyboard starts bigger so therefore will have a bigger infinity

>> No.1219381

ghosts&demins prove that science is wrong.just look a google u fools

>> No.1219397

>>1219378
mind = blown

>> No.1219400

>>1219131

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>> No.1219410

>>1219134
DRAGONFORCE

>> No.1219435

So does this mean The Blob and Juggernaut are neither Unmovable, or Unstoppable respectively?

>> No.1219457

>>1219143
>>1219167

Simplest answer. Should've been over here.

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>>1219134
>What happens when an unstoppable and indestructible object collides with an immovable, indestructible wall?

Clipping errors.

In theory... assuming an ontological object made of mathitonium and a wall of the same properties (which is bolted to the back of a giant turtle with infinite mass)

* If they are colliding at an angle -- the object bounces off, having lost none of its inertia. The wall acts like a kinetic blackbody.
* If they are colliding straight-on -- the object come to an instantaneous halt, and you, as the impartial observer, are killed by a massive burst of gamma radiation.

That's when you've got ontological objects, made of pure mathetonium whose internal structure is much more rigid than mere atoms or polymerized condensate. (Note: I'm 98% sure that polymerizing condensate is both impossible-by-definition and incredibly stupid.)

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>>1219463

If, OTOH, the you had ontological-by-definition non-Mathetonium objects-- Literally unstoppable, immovable under ANY circumstances, presumably because a Gnostic extra-temporal God is pouring Kardashev-10 force behind every quanta in these objects-- which are made of Neutronium-- holding them in rigid formation...

* They would pass through one another. Just like yanking a Ragdoll Bush (http://www.mostfungames.com/bush-ragdoll.htm)) through overlapping circles-- ENOUGH force (like an ontologically unstoppable object must have) would override the binding forces which keep atoms apart. Or,
* The Unstoppable Object would begin to slow such that it would traverse 1/2 of the remaining D distance between it and the unmovable object for every unit of T time. Zeno's Paradox; the object does not stop, and the wall does not move. (You are again killed by a massive burst of gamma radiation as the object sheds inertia.)

(Of course this is a patently ridiculous question since you failed to answer; unmovable relative to what, or explain how you plan to get a turtle of infinite mass to stand still for that long.)

>> No.1219478

I like it when people start calculating using "infinitive" like a number.

>> No.1219513

>>1219134
>unstoppable and indestructible object collides with an immovable, indestructible wall?

You would have a very big bang.
That is to say, the at-instant energy of the two objects at the moment of collision would exceed the ex-nihilo creation of the universe (which TV Tropes assures me is 7.4 * 10^112 watts.) and since energy has mass, you would instantly create a black hole with more mass than the entire universe in which this experiment was occurring.

Even given the objects involves are indestructable, once caught within the vent horizon of the hole, their collision would never actually finish, so no outcome is possible.
So... basically the Zeno's Paradox answer someone else gave. The by-definition properties of the objects involved would trigger a stellar phenomenon which would prevent their interaction from ever reaching a conclusion.

(And you would be killed by a massive Gamma-Ray burst. Again.)

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1219578

Who is to say that both objects interact? It is fine to say that the immovable object is a meson.

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>>1219578
>implying that a meson is an object

>> No.1219595

What happens when you troll at 400 miles per hour into a wall made of trolls?

>> No.1219604

>>1219578
>implying a meson can't interact with other particles
>implying any 2 objects exist which can't interact in anyway

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>>1219587

Who is to say they aren't?

>> No.1219615

>>1219513
>>1219469
>>1219463
I like you

>> No.1219626

>>1219587
troll harder, faggot

>> No.1219625

>>1219595
Nothing. There is only 1 troll and he's samefagging.

>> No.1219637

>>1219595
A 4chan is born

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>>1219605
An unstoppable, indestructible Polywater Icicle collides with an immovable, indestructible wall...

>> No.1219686

>>1219595
YouTube Comments.

>> No.1219726

>>1219513
Heh heh. Heh heh heh.

7 trillion googols. Hehhehhehheh. I got to use the world googol.

>> No.1219940

an inconceivable crash

/thread

>> No.1219979

ITS LIKE WHAT IF SOMEONE COULD THROW A BASEBALL SO FAST THAT NO ONE WOULD CATCH IT BUT THEY DID

>> No.1219994

>>1219979
makes sense,,,

>> No.1219996

cant happen if there is an unstoppable force that would imply there are no object that can stop it and vise versa. learn physics and think.

>> No.1220014

Wouldn't the unstoppable object just bounce off?

>> No.1220030

At first I thought, "Is that a baseball?" Then it hit me.

>> No.1220047

it bounces backwards, duh.

>> No.1220048

It' called niggers....

>> No.1220058

Unstoppable object goes through immovable object

>> No.1220072

it creats the universe

>> No.1220123

Depending on the form of the objects and the angle of the impact the following are possible:
1. The unstopable object strikes the wall and slides off, changing its trajectory.
2. It collides and is unable to change its path so therefore all the energy in the universe would be expended