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[Anonymous No.12183748]

Oh God Not Again Edition

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[Anonymous No.12183751]

bumper? I 'ardly knew 'er!

[Anonymous No.12183752]

WITH SPACEX AND ULA SIDELINED THE NATION TURNS TO LOWLY ~~ORBITAL SCIENCES CORPORATION~~ ~~ORBITAL ATK~~ NORTHOP GRUMMAN INNOVATION SYSTEMS TO BREAK THE CURSE OF SCRUBTOBERFEST

[Anonymous No.12183754]

>>12183752
inb4 RUD

[Anonymous No.12183761]

>>12183753
>long term though maglevs would be nice for ultimate low friction. on mars it's basically same as hyperloop. no air plus low gravity would get you going pretty fuckin fast
Yeah, I can see maglevs being used on Mars like planes are on Earth, for fast transfer of passengers and light freight, with the big heavy shit using regular freight trains.

[Anonymous No.12183762]

>>12183752
>srb RUD dumps molten flaming aluminum all over the launchpad

[Anonymous No.12183771]

>we need to solve the problems on earth before we can think about going to mars

[Anonymous No.12183776]

I'm posting the THICCC boy again just cos

[Anonymous No.12183780]

>>12183738
>not going the full Juno I 1.8m
enjoy your pencildicks

>>12183771
"Solve all the problems on Mars and maybe I'll let you live on Earth."

[Anonymous No.12183783]

>>12183762
The SRB is the SECOND stage.

[Anonymous No.12183786]

>>12183771
>no rat will ever set foot here

[Anonymous No.12183789]

Lunar megaproject to even out an equatorial ring highway for the construction of orbital rings when?

[Anonymous No.12183796]

First for CONSTELLATION PROGRAM!

[Anonymous No.12183797]

>>12183771
Why do people think that way?

[Anonymous No.12183803]

>>12183796
Didn't that end up getting cancelled because the RS-68 can't cluster?

[Anonymous No.12183806]

>>12183797
Rhymes with tiggers and poohs.

[Anonymous No.12183811]

>>12183803
It’s more that they don’t play well with shuttle SRBs cooking away their ablative nozzles.

[Anonymous No.12183813]

>>12183811
bro just make the shuttle SRBs longer so the ablative nozzle is out of the fire cone

[Anonymous No.12183816]

>>12183797
imagine the brain drain when all the engineers move to mars for the excitement and wonder of starting a branch of human civilization. if you think earth societies have stagnated now, you aint seen SHIT until the great martian exodus

[Anonymous No.12183820]

>>12183803
I thought it was more because death stick

[Anonymous No.12183825]

>>12183820
Good old suicide stick failing to burn out and slamjamming the payload stage.

[Anonymous No.12183827]

>>12183803
like the graphic shows up there, you could still have done ares V with rs-25s. when they cancelled constellation what they were really cancelling was the j-2x.

>>12183813
that or just mount the SRBs lower. there's no reason it couldn't be done.

[Anonymous No.12183830]

>>12183820
>extremely limited test of an incomplete first stage
>$445 million cost
Is this the power of oldspace?

[Anonymous No.12183833]

>>12183813
Yeah, I’ve got no idea why there wasn’t more work done to find a solution other than using SSMEs or converting the 68 into a regeneratively-cooled engine.

[Anonymous No.12183834]

>>12183833
>using SSMEs or converting the 68 into a regeneratively-cooled engine.
I thought the basic difference between an SSME and an RS-68 was the cooling system.

[Anonymous No.12183846]

>>12183834
Yep, that’s kind of why converting the RS-68 into a regeneratively-cooled engine was a dumb idea.

[Anonymous No.12183851]

SOMEBODY HELP HIM

[Anonymous No.12183854]

>>12183833
They actually had an engine plan that saw the would’ve worked, but at that point Ares V was the size of Starship but nonreusable. It was literally a jumbo SLS.

[Anonymous No.12183861]

Reminder that Atlas V Heavy could have easily been flying Orion to the ISS by 2011 with minimal development costs and a per-launch cost well less than half of Ares I

[Anonymous No.12183864]

>>12183861
But muh RD-180s.

[Anonymous No.12183868]

Diet MTN Dew > MTN Dew Zero

[Anonymous No.12183869]

NASA will be live streaming the Antares launch.

[Anonymous No.12183880]

>>12183830
...This isn't even their final form

[Anonymous No.12183882]

Is that Virginia launch happening tonight or not?

[Anonymous No.12183883]

>>12183882
Yep. Posting some pics of it on the pad.

[Anonymous No.12183887]

>>12183883

[Anonymous No.12183890]

>>12183883
It will probably be too cloudy for me to see it. I'm in Maryland, completely overcast here. :-(

[Anonymous No.12183892]

>>12183887

[Anonymous No.12183894]

>>12183783
"we'll just stick an srb on top because it's easier than coming up with our own upper-stage engine" is old newspace mindest

[Anonymous No.12183895]

And here's one of a Cyngus being grabbed by the ISS's Canadarm, from the ISS.

[Anonymous No.12183912]

>>12183752
is antares that rocket which was a repurposed icbm?

[Anonymous No.12183913]

>>12183868
>concentrated orange juice

[Anonymous No.12183914]

>>12183912
No, that’s Minotaur.

[Anonymous No.12183921]

>>12183914
isn't Antares a direct evolution of Minotaur that they renamed because Minotaur kept exploding

[Anonymous No.12183926]

>>12183921
>shut it down

[Anonymous No.12183928]

>>12183913
That's a fucking lemon you dolt.

[Anonymous No.12183929]

>>12183913
CUTE! OOoooo so CUTE

[Anonymous No.12183932]

>>12183928
no, she's a tangerine
all citrus is the same in Japanese

[Anonymous No.12183945]

>>12183932
>all citrus is the same in Japanese
What a dumb language.

[Anonymous No.12183953]

>>12183752
Livestream here:
https://youtu.be/u15ey7lLbmM

[Anonymous No.12183957]

>>12183932
such an interesting culture. and v cuteee!!!!

[Anonymous No.12183959]

>>12183953
I feel like I'm watching a VHS tape

[Anonymous No.12183960]

god i hope this launch goes well, i have major blue balls rn

[Anonymous No.12183963]

>>12183945
Beat me to it.
Why couldn't the Americans have forced them to speak like real people?
But their spoken language is still practically scholarly in comparison to those fucking moon runes.

[Anonymous No.12183966]

>>12183963
>Why couldn't the Americans have forced them to speak like real people?
Because then we'd be denied Japanese girls speaking Engrish cutely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIhGF8TT0U8

[Anonymous No.12183977]

>>12183921
Nope, though it uses a derivative of the Minotaur’s solid first stage for its second stage.

[Anonymous No.12183982]

>>12183977
>Liquid first stage
>Srb second stage

[Anonymous No.12183981]

>>12183960
Jeff pls

[Anonymous No.12183985]

>>12183921
Orbital's naming scheme is all screwy
Minotaur I-V were all icbm-derived rockets.
Taurus I was a Pegasus strapped on top of an ICBM lower stage and was renamed Minotaur C for some reason.
Taurus II was a 2xNK-33 lower stage with a solid upper stage and got renamed Antares. Then after an NK-33 blew up and gave us the most kino explosion in rocket history then they replaced them with an RD-181, which is what we have now.

[Anonymous No.12183996]

>>12183982
The first stage engines are foreign, too. We really need someone besides SpaceX making good kerolox engines in the US. Maybe expendable single F-1B rockets? You'd get thrust similar to an F9 with one engine.

[Anonymous No.12184006]

>>12183882
Why are they launching from Virginia of all places?

[Anonymous No.12184007]

>>12183981
is this real?

[Anonymous No.12184009]

>>12184006
Propellant is stored where?

[Anonymous No.12184012]

>>12184006
It's NASA's east coast launch site for sounding rockets and smol orbiters. It has good launch windows to the ISS. RocketLab is renting a pad their as their LC-2.

[Anonymous No.12184013]

He really does care

[Anonymous No.12184015]

[Anonymous No.12184020]

Aerojew Shekeldyne forgot to pay their web host. Their homepage throws a 403.

[Anonymous No.12184023]

>>12183996
We can't do that anon, space is hard :^(

[Anonymous No.12184027]

>>12184023
Now I want to install KSP just to prove you wrong.

[Anonymous No.12184030]

>>12184006
>>12184012
Celebrating NASA's birthday by launching from their original de facto HQ at Langley

[Anonymous No.12184055]

>tfw we get ANOTHER scrub today

[Anonymous No.12184059]

aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.12184065]

>>12184059
>not ANOTHER scrub but a full on fire bomb
Uh no

[Anonymous No.12184066]

>>12184059
OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.12184073]

Daily reminder for the low testosterone pacifist fags that bonobos are over 200 times more violent than humans are.

[Anonymous No.12184080]

>>12184073
...wrong thread?

[Anonymous No.12184083]

>>12184059
Could there be 3 scrubs in 24 hours? That has to be a record

[Anonymous No.12184084]

>>12184080
There was a discussion about how based bonobos are in the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.12184086]

>>12183921
No, but it was originally named Taurus-II. It is a frankenstein monster of a rocket: engines from Russia, tanks from Ukraine, solid upper stage (wut?) from the USA, lofting Cygnus mostly built in Italy. All to get the same class of vehicle as the Delta II workhorse.

>>12183985
>Taurus-I renamed Minotaur-C
THAT was due to supplier fraud in the pins holding the fairing together, which caused the loss of two payloads. They couldn't ditch the Taurus brand fast enough after that.

[Anonymous No.12184096]

>>12183913
very cute orang

[Anonymous No.12184101]

>>12184059
/sfg/ Scrubbed Flight General

[Anonymous No.12184113]

>>12183895
I've always been disappointed that Orbital never proposed a dirt simple Cygnus-based manned upper stage for Commercial Crew. Manned launches from Wallops would've been lit.

>>12183894
Tbh Orbital Sciences was almost what I'd call "midspace", being a weird halfway point between oldspace and newspace, and that really shined in their weird-ass 90s-tastic design philosophies.

[Anonymous No.12184114]

oooh it may actually happen yay

[Anonymous No.12184116]

NASA MEATBALL ON THE LAUNCH STREAM
IT BEGINS

>>12184113
One of their Gateway modules is based on Cygnus.
>it'll be launched on a Falcon Heavy lol

[Anonymous No.12184117]

Official NASA is LIVE
https://youtu.be/w8AAdZ1TDUw

[Anonymous No.12184118]

>>12184084
? bonobos are still based

[Anonymous No.12184119]

>>12184096
yes, if you want to save it I recommend you go find the full size image

[Anonymous No.12184121]

>tj creamer

lol this nigga sounds like a coffee product

[Anonymous No.12184126]

>>12184006
Barren coastline with great access to middle inclinations.

Part of me has always wanted to propose a coastal spaceport in Eastern Maine for access to the ISS and to have an east coast pad for polar orbits.

[Anonymous No.12184129]

>>12184116
>One of their Gateway modules is based on Cygnus.

A Cygnus-based manned capsule could have been a dirt simple American Soyuz. It would have been kino AF.

[Anonymous No.12184130]

>>12184118
How? Because they appear hedonistic and that tickles the rotting brains of degenerates and soiboys like yourself? They’re extremely violent compared to humans, and also engage in pedophilia.

Thank God Darwinism is wiping out low-t westoids.

[Anonymous No.12184132]

>>12184113
>cygnus based manned upper stage
how the fuck are you going to transform a cylindrical propellant tank based orbital trashcan into an orbital thermal aeroentry capsule?
give the Astronauts a MOOSE?

[Anonymous No.12184136]

Would a vertical maglev boost from an underground silo work to save some delta V?

[Anonymous No.12184138]

>they named the vehicle after one of the dead Columbia astronauts
whyyyyyyyyyy

>>12184129
Cygnus doesn't have any mass-return capability so it'd be more like an American Soyuz 11.

[Anonymous No.12184142]

>>12184130
have sex

[Anonymous No.12184143]

>>12184136
no

[Anonymous No.12184147]

>>12184136
Eh, the effect is pretty minor.


I do like orbital systems that use an airplane with a rocket-I wonder if any existing airplane could heft an Electron up?

[Anonymous No.12184148]

>>12184136
>gun launch zeroeth stage
it doesn't save enough to be worthwhile

[Anonymous No.12184149]

>>12184138
yeah isnt that bad luck or something?

[Anonymous No.12184150]

>>12184142
All the time.
Did you know that physical strength correlates positively with social Darwinist beliefs?

[Anonymous No.12184153]

>Scott Manley twitter likes: Cringey
>Scott Manley youtube content: Comfy
I cannot think of a better "space enthusiast" who makes videos. I like the fact that youtube isn't his full time job. He is really good at absorbing science quickly and reiterates the information well. I've had a hate boner for manley recently but I can't deny the fact that his videos are the most efficient and summarize spaceflight extremely well. I just want to know you guys' thoughts

[Anonymous No.12184154]

Say what you will about Antares but it's a good looking rocket.

[Anonymous No.12184155]

[Anonymous No.12184157]

>>12184154
I will say what I want about Antares- and I will say that I actually like it

[Anonymous No.12184159]

>>12184132
Like working backwards from a progress to a Soyuz. Keep the bus and propulsion/maneuvering/power systems and swap the tin can out for a Gaganyaan-style simple capsule instead, maybe carrying the RCS system internally, Dragon-style, so it can dock on its own.

[Anonymous No.12184160]

>>12184147
Virgin Orbit is working on it, using one of the 747s from the Virgin Atlantic fleet. Their first test flight failed, but they plan to do another near the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.12184162]

>>12184153
spaaaaaaaaaace
I also like his twitch content

[Anonymous No.12184166]

>>12184147
It would be lighter than pegasus but liquid airlaunch just has major ullage issues, as virgin's been finding out.

[Anonymous No.12184169]

>>12184154
Disgusting Flat Chest. I like my rockets with curves.

[Anonymous No.12184174]

we need to solve the problems of earth before we can think about resupplying the international space station

[Anonymous No.12184175]

>>12184129
The 4ASS design bureau has determined that a scaled up Cygnus is the right direction for inter-orbital inert payload "shipping containers" for use with tugs or mass drivers.

>>12184159
The corrugated tin can with a tiny service module bolted to the ass is the best part of the design, fampai.

[Anonymous No.12184177]

>>12184169
what are various rockets' cup sizes?

[Anonymous No.12184178]

>>12184174
I do love appeal to worse problems fallacies.

[Anonymous No.12184179]

>>12183797
low iq people who need to find antagonists with every aspect of modern life

[Anonymous No.12184180]

>>12184147
>I wonder if any existing airplane could heft an Electron up?

Ask and ye shall receive:
https://youtu.be/96A0wb1Ov9k

[Anonymous No.12184181]

>>12184154
I want at least a little hammerhead on my fairings unless they're soyuz-tier long.

[Anonymous No.12184183]

>>12184179
Conflict is good.

[Anonymous No.12184185]

>>12184174
You would deny astronauts their cheese? You fuck

[Anonymous No.12184186]

>>12184175
But a flying wastebasket with a tiny-ass service module on the end would be just as kino.

[Anonymous No.12184187]

>>12184160
747 is ideal for this: already designed with an extra hard-point, originally used for ferrying spare engines.

[Anonymous No.12184188]

>btw we named this rocket after a dead girl just wanted to remind you

[Anonymous No.12184191]

>>12184160
neat.

i know they're late, but the more space bois the better

[Anonymous No.12184193]

>>12184183
as long as its directed at the right thing. now that we live in this era of world peace and everyone needing to get along people are finding conflict in more esoteric issues like the space program

[Anonymous No.12184194]

>>12184187
Also you can actually get civilians trained to fly and maintain the thing. C-5 is USAF only.

[Anonymous No.12184196]

>>12184193
wtf why is he so cute,am i gay now

[Anonymous No.12184197]

>>12184193
“Peace” is a cancer.

[Anonymous No.12184198]

>>12184185
>all that cheese and sausage going up
ISS is going to get stinky!

[Anonymous No.12184200]

>>12184196

we are bonobos! i love you brother. peace for all mankind

[Anonymous No.12184204]

>>12184200
War for all mankind would be better for us sociologically and psychologically.

[Anonymous No.12184206]

>>12184194
An An-124 could also be used in lieu of a C-5 and would probably cost the same as the 747 to rent and operate. The best part is that you wouldn't need to modify it at all, since you can just drop the rocket out the back.

[Anonymous No.12184207]

>The woman in launch control can't provide her info on time

[Anonymous No.12184209]

>>12184206
I'd rather have Beriev or some American company make a flying boat big enough to carry the rocket like that, entirely and completely to one-up ULA's rocket barge.

[Anonymous No.12184210]

Why does NASA keep adding and removing the countdown timer?

[Anonymous No.12184214]

>hold
>Wrong button

[Anonymous No.12184215]

Woman pressed the wrong button! SCRUB!!!

[Anonymous No.12184216]

on hold again because someone pressed the wrong button

[Anonymous No.12184218]

launch scrubbed because somebody hit the wrong button

[Anonymous No.12184219]

WRONG BUTTON WAS SELECTED

[Anonymous No.12184220]

>hold at T-11m
Oh for FUCK'S SAKE

[Anonymous No.12184221]

>>12184204
bonebolent bonobo

[Anonymous No.12184222]

Now I get why spacex uses computers for this shit

[Anonymous No.12184223]

Cursed launch week?

[Anonymous No.12184224]

oh come ooooooooooon guys get it together!

[Anonymous No.12184225]

One launch every 6-12 months and they can't practice which buttons to press?

[Anonymous No.12184227]

>>12184225
It's a woman.

[Anonymous No.12184229]

>Woman in the SpaceX Crew mission presses the wrong button
>Capsule deploys parachutes in space

[Anonymous No.12184230]

>>12184229
Now you know why Dragon uses touchscreens for everything. They can just "accidentally" shut off her controls.

[Anonymous No.12184231]

when is zucc going to get involved in space stuff? he seems like the kind of autistic nerd to like it

[Anonymous No.12184234]

at least she didn't hit spacebar

[Anonymous No.12184235]

>>12184230
They have manual buttons for backup for critical systems in case the screens go down. There is still a chance.

[Anonymous No.12184236]

STAGE 1 NO GO

HOLY FUCK NASA

[Anonymous No.12184237]

[Anonymous No.12184238]

the girl had a cute voice

[Anonymous No.12184239]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8AAdZ1TDUw

NASA cargo launch live

[Anonymous No.12184241]

A FUCKING BOAT!!!!

[Anonymous No.12184243]

wayward boat

[Anonymous No.12184244]

scrubby the wayward boat strikes again

[Anonymous No.12184245]

>>12184236
Is it because of the button? Funniest shit ever if so.

[Anonymous No.12184246]

ITS THE SPACEX DRONESHIP

[Anonymous No.12184247]

did hit my Diddy PR today, the launch will be scrubbed

[Anonymous No.12184248]

FUCK OATS

[Anonymous No.12184250]

Women were a mistake. Unironically.

[Anonymous No.12184253]

GET READY FOR MORE PARANORMAL LAUNCH HOLDS
IT'S A SPOOKY SCRUBTOBER

[Anonymous No.12184254]

FUCK THE BOAT JUST LAUNCH IT

[Anonymous No.12184256]

>>12184250
I love women, I'm mad about women, I've been married 3 times, I'm infatuated with women

[Anonymous No.12184257]

RESUMED

[Anonymous No.12184258]

Will they be able to fuel up the upper stage in time?

[Anonymous No.12184259]

>>12184254
it's them choinese come to steal our hypergolics and women in them boats!

[Anonymous No.12184262]

Scrubtober lmao

[Anonymous No.12184263]

>>12184258
heh

[Anonymous No.12184264]

>>12184256
Based.

[Anonymous No.12184265]

>Dis woman did somethin bad so all women bad

[Anonymous No.12184267]

come oooooooon atkbros,break the curse!

[Anonymous No.12184268]

>>12184265
>T. woman

[Anonymous No.12184269]

>>12184262
we are NOT scrubbing this launch. we must feed the astronauts

[Anonymous No.12184270]

>>12184258
anon please

[Anonymous No.12184271]

>>12184177
Direct correlation with tonnage to LEO.
Overall size of the rocket is size of rocket girl.
Saturn V and Starship around same cup size with Starship slightly taller and a bit thicker. Sea Dragon would be an absolute Amazonian monster; 6'6", breasts each bigger than a man's head and too large to grasp even just one with both hands, thighs that could snap titanium tubes and hips that could bulldoze bunkers. N1 would be fairly bottom heavy. Energia would basically be a dwarf. Falcon Heavy would be a spunky and deceptively small tomboy.
>>12184234
>presses spacebar
>capsule ejects
>parachutes deploy
>both stages instantly start firing full-blast
>first stage tries to land but doesn't realize it's already on the ground
>quickloads
>accidentally presses F5 instead
>capsule finally touches down on the launch pad at 0.1m/s
>explodes

[Anonymous No.12184272]

>>12184259
Fake news. China has plenty hypergolics landing on their homes.

[Anonymous No.12184273]

>>12184269
Bob is on standby to safeguard the payload.

[Anonymous No.12184276]

>>12184271
>Saturn V and Starship around same cup size with Starship slightly taller and a bit thicker. Sea Dragon would be an absolute Amazonian monster; 6'6", breasts each bigger than a man's head and too large to grasp even just one with both hands, thighs that could snap titanium tubes and hips that could bulldoze bunkers.
Someone commission this. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.12184278]

>>12184265
Correct

[Anonymous No.12184279]

>>12184269
there are two slavs up there and Chris is a trained killer
I think he can manage for another day
>>12184271
cup size is related to the upper/lower stage ratio
this, naturally, gives Starship the biggest titties

[Anonymous No.12184282]

>>12184273
Please tell me no one left him alone with the food supplies.

[Anonymous No.12184283]

>>12184231
Lizard folk from the center of the earth have no interest in space.

[Anonymous No.12184284]

>>12184279
Delta-III would like to have a word with you.

[Anonymous No.12184287]

>>12184284
[Titan 4 has entered the game]

[Anonymous No.12184289]

>>12184231
He's going to try to buy starlink/neuralink to grab all your data

[Anonymous No.12184290]

>>12184284
that's just a fairing, she pads

[Anonymous No.12184291]

>>12184282
i replaced all the food with copies of my new book, The Case For Space. Food is temporary, knowledge is eternal.

[Anonymous No.12184292]

>>12184278
This is why I only fuck with men. Women are too dumb to hold a conversation. I only suck high testosterone cocks

[Anonymous No.12184294]

>>12184279
>navy SEAL kills and eats two Russian cosmonauts on the ISS
>somehow not the most embarrassing thing a SEAL has done in the past couple years

[Anonymous No.12184296]

>>12184287
ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT

[Anonymous No.12184297]

SCRUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.12184300]

oh god it IS scrubtober!

[Anonymous No.12184302]

>>12184132
just put a heat shield on the end

[Anonymous No.12184301]

>abort
Chris confirmed for cannibal

[Anonymous No.12184303]

>>12184291
Bold of you to assume Bob didn’t already eat the books to gain their knowledge.

[Anonymous No.12184304]

[Anonymous No.12184305]

>>12184297
WTF

[Anonymous No.12184306]

Who’s kinda interested on the Bartolomeo module on cygnus?
https://www.airbus.com/space/space-infrastructures/bartolomeo.html

[Anonymous No.12184307]

mfw

[Anonymous No.12184308]

JESUS CHRIST

[Anonymous No.12184311]

>>12184302
no, MOOSE for every astronaut

[Anonymous No.12184312]

>>12184296
Trump’s new justice needs to hurry up and overturn Roe v. Wade to stop all these late term abortions. This is getting ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.12184313]

this week freaking sucks

[Anonymous No.12184314]

JIM IS GOING TO FIRE EVERYONE

LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD

[Anonymous No.12184315]

>>12184308
i pat ur head

[Anonymous No.12184316]

make it stop

[Anonymous No.12184317]

holy shit wtf why how everything is fucking scrubbing

[Anonymous No.12184318]

FUCK

[Anonymous No.12184319]

So many aborts Planned Parenthood is getting jealous.

[Anonymous No.12184320]

>>12184253
I TOLD YOU

YOU DIDN'T LISTEN

YOU WEREN'T READY FOR THE PARANORMAL ABORT

YOU WEREN'T READY FOR SO MANY SCRUBS IT'S SCARY

YOU WEREN'T READY FOR SPOOKY SCRUBTOBER

[Anonymous No.12184321]

THE WOMAN PRESSED THE WRONG BUTTON

[Anonymous No.12184322]

>>12184314
he should have Trump do it complete with the Apprentice style gestures

[Anonymous No.12184323]

>>12184311
>
>>12184317
welcome to Scrubtober

[Anonymous No.12184324]

Sim managers blocked space access

[Anonymous No.12184326]

>all these aborts
Multi-stage rockets were a mistake.

[Anonymous No.12184327]

>9:16PM Antares
>9:43PM Falcon
What's the record for fastest back to back scrubs?

[Anonymous No.12184328]

OH SHIT, SOMEONE SNAPPED A PIC OF THE SUSPECT SAILING THE WAYWARD BOAT

[Anonymous No.12184331]

>>12184326
wrong

[Anonymous No.12184332]

>>12184328
He can’t keep getting away with it!

[Anonymous No.12184333]

OK /sfg/ WHAT IN THE FUCK IS GOING ON????????
>Oh baby a triple scrub
This shit ain't normal

[Anonymous No.12184334]

>>12184323
Only male moose have antlers. That's a futa.

[Anonymous No.12184336]

>scrubbed at T-2min
daaaamn I was all set up outside to watch it too.

[Anonymous No.12184339]

>>12184334
yes we are aware

[Anonymous No.12184340]

>NASAspaceflight advertising an "Eat-Sleep-Scrub-Repeat" T-shirt
how did they know!?

[Anonymous No.12184342]

>>12184322
https://youtu.be/Z2u8OVK4qD4?t=207

[Anonymous No.12184344]

>>12184331
>right
no, you're wrong

[Anonymous No.12184345]

>>12184328
Why would Zubrin scrub an Antares/Cygnus launch? I could see him messing with a Delta or SLS launch because orangetankbad devoured his dreams.

>>12184339
That was such a good doujin.

[Anonymous No.12184351]

We should bring back ceremonial armor for our future martian constitutional monarchy

[Anonymous No.12184352]

>>12184345
>the doujin that killed Kemono Friends

[Anonymous No.12184353]

>>12184345
>why
well it's not like it's going to mars

[Anonymous No.12184356]

yet another GSE malfunction!

[Anonymous No.12184357]

scrubba dub dub

[Anonymous No.12184358]

>no simp September
>no launch October
>no nut November

[Anonymous No.12184359]

>>12184345
The payload isn’t launching on a direct Hohmann transfer to Mars, therefore it’s wasting valuable resources.

[Anonymous No.12184360]

SpaceX > NASA

[Anonymous No.12184362]

doujin is hedonistic. you are low T soibois. cringe

[Anonymous No.12184363]

>>12184360
nigga they scrubbed today, too

[Anonymous No.12184365]

This night is ruined. I was prepared to see a rocket go up into that dark, black space. Now what am I supposed to do?

[Anonymous No.12184367]

>>12184360
#DefundNASA

[Anonymous No.12184370]

>>12184365
Find the men responsible, and kill them.

[Anonymous No.12184371]

>>12184363
stop trying to defend nasa you simp

[Anonymous No.12184373]

>>12184365
stop being a faggot

[Anonymous No.12184374]

>>12184370
in ksp

[Anonymous No.12184378]

>>12184370
but a woman is responsible anon...

[Anonymous No.12184380]

>>12184365
>Now what am I supposed to do?
Build rockets.
Design rockets.
Design payloads.
Plan missions.
Read SMAD.
Play KSP.
Drink.
Shitpost.

[Anonymous No.12184382]

>>12184323
>>12184334
>>12184339
>>12184345
Irrefutable proof that /sfg/ is the smartest general on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.12184383]

>>12184378
Well then kill her

[Anonymous No.12184388]

your launches need more vitamin C

[Anonymous No.12184390]

>>12184365
Do what >>12184396 said

[Anonymous No.12184394]

>>12184388
AAAA MY EYES

[Anonymous No.12184395]

>>12184351
>ceremonial
FUNCTIONAL artisan-customized power armor for prominent positions, with varying grades of body armor (mechanized or not) being standard fashion.

[Anonymous No.12184396]

>>12184383
I disavow,this kind of rhetoric has no place here!

[Anonymous No.12184397]

>>12184365
Have sex with your wife

[Anonymous No.12184398]

>>12184395
>with varying grades of body armor (mechanized or not) being standard fashion.
GainzPlates to partially offset the low gravity.

[Anonymous No.12184402]

>>12184390
based time travel poster

[Anonymous No.12184404]

>>12184390
>>12184395
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.12184406]

>>12184398
Tactical dreadnought armor on the moon when?

[Anonymous No.12184408]

>>12184395
functional carbon-carbon armor so you can parachute down to the martian surface from orbit.

strong against flamethrowers, weak against foam chunks.

[Anonymous No.12184413]

>>12184408
i think musk's new batteries make PA actually viable in the near term.

[Anonymous No.12184415]

>>12184408
>weak against foam chunks
Only during reentry. Just avoid the other guy's MOOSE bag and you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.12184417]

>>12184402
BASED "based poster" poster

[Anonymous No.12184421]

Bob has had it. He isn't putting up with this shit anymore. If you want to go to space, you have to go through him

[Anonymous No.12184422]

>>12184417
Based on what?

[Anonymous No.12184423]

>>12184421
"you're about to have more problems on earth than you ever dreamed of"

[Anonymous No.12184424]

>>12184422
ORANGE EXPENDABLE HYDROLOX TANKS

[Anonymous No.12184425]

>>12183834
>I thought the basic difference between an SSME and an RS-68 was the cooling system.
No, it's the powerhead cycle. RS-25 uses fuel rich staged combustion, RS-68 is just a hydrolox gas-generator, basically a hydrolox F-1 but worse for its niche

[Anonymous No.12184426]

>>12184422
OMEGAAAAAA
B-B-B-BAAAAASED

[Anonymous No.12184427]

>>12184421
punished bob. a man denied his mars direct

[Anonymous No.12184430]

>>12184426
*cancelled

[Anonymous No.12184432]

>>12184422
Careful with that posting, bud. You got dubs, so I'll leave you alone. But if you'd gotten singles, I'd be squatting low to plow that hole so hard you'd think you was permanently poopin'.

[Anonymous No.12184433]

>>12184421
blessed zubrin-poster

if anyone could replace jim and keep the momentum going at nasa,it would be bob.

[Anonymous No.12184437]

>>12184425
Why didn't they ever try to make an RS-68V for Ares upper stages? Was air-starting it that much of a problem?

[Anonymous No.12184438]

This stream still has live updates:
https://youtu.be/fHIgm3cEilU

[Anonymous No.12184439]

>>12184433
He needs to take the buzzpill.

[Anonymous No.12184440]

>>12184437
They were gonna have the J-2X for that. Instead, we’re stuck with clusters of RL-10s forever.

[Anonymous No.12184442]

>>12184438
anything worthwhile?

[Anonymous No.12184443]

>>12184439
Buzz "THERES A MONOLITH THERE" Aldrin

[Anonymous No.12184446]

cheap hydrolox engines for kickstages when?

[Anonymous No.12184448]

>>12184443
>buzz will probably die very soon

fuck man,i hope he gets to see us land on mars

[Anonymous No.12184451]

>>12184448
That's half the reason I hope we make the 2024 launch window. I think he can make it to 2026 if he knows he can see men on Mars.

[Anonymous No.12184453]

>>12184451
he would be 96 by '26

[Anonymous No.12184456]

>>12184453
My grandfather made it to 98.

[Anonymous No.12184457]

>>12184443
Based Aldrin.
Is there a more kino moment in film than Ryan Gosling's Armstrong autistically trying to land on the moon while Corey Stoll's Aldrin warily keeps an eye on the constant alarms?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfNhkYHrfj0

[Anonymous No.12184461]

>>12184448
>Aldrin had been around long enough to see a cavalcade of both democrat and republican senators tell him how whichever current administration is totally committed to a trip to Mars
Gotta feel bad for the guy. He's been routinely the most outspoken 60's era astronaut advocating the advancement of manned spaceflight

[Anonymous No.12184462]

Who's ready for GPS3 scrub tomorrow night?

[Anonymous No.12184465]

>>12184462
I love watching streams of nothing happening with a small chance of explosions.

[Anonymous No.12184466]

>>12184462
I'll have the launch/scrub thread up as always

[Anonymous No.12184467]

>>12184465
I get to do it with my friends. /sfg/ is my family

[Anonymous No.12184468]

>>12184448
oh man i forget where this image was from, this is probably the most spectacularly stupid video about the moon ever made,I love it dearly.
https://youtu.be/crczVPgc570?t=11

[Anonymous No.12184474]

>>12184461
Maybe we can convince him to beat Shelby to death with a moon rock.

[Anonymous No.12184487]

So,
>SpaceX meaningful capacity to build permanent infrastructure on orbit: 2030
>China meaningful capacity to build permanent infrastructure on orbit: 2040
>Everyone else: 2050?
Is that right.

[Anonymous No.12184491]

>>12184487
China will get delayed another ten years by the Three Gorges Dam popping.

[Anonymous No.12184493]

>>12184491
That is still being hyped up?

[Anonymous No.12184506]

>>12184493
The water keeps rising behind it, already causing massive crop failures even without a pop.

[Anonymous No.12184511]

>>12184493
China is facing a lot of issues desu. In 20 or so years they’ll have a large(r) population crisis of a lack of working ethnic Chinese and literally millions of incels because of their stupid 1 child policy.

[Anonymous No.12184513]

>>12184491
wouldn't it be funny if someone accidentally deorbited a giant tungsten satellite on the 3gd haha like as a joke

[Anonymous No.12184515]

>>12184511
I wonder if their rapid pace of industrialization has paved the way for a rapid pace of toward degeneration/stagnation

[Anonymous No.12184523]

>>12184511
If there is a thing China is good at is social engineering. Turning around their birthdates would be fairly compared to other countries.

[Anonymous No.12184524]

>>12184523
Why haven't they done it then?

[Anonymous No.12184528]

>>12184524
The still have a shitload of people, albeit they are already starting to course correct, having abolished the one child police already.

[Anonymous No.12184532]

>>12184528
Well they switched to a two child policy in 2016, yet the rate of decline in birth rate seems to be accelerating.

[Anonymous No.12184534]

>>12184532
yeah it's a demographic problem not a legislative one.

[Anonymous No.12184538]

>>12184534
Its probably because when you limit the number of kids people can have, 9 times out of 10 they’ll want a son. Also it’s bad to limit the number of children citizens can have anyways thanks to stagnation and the like. Yeah

[Anonymous No.12184544]

>>12184532
It’s sitting at 1,6-and-something per woman since 1995, which put it above all of Europe as well as native-born americans. They aren’t doing that bad.

[Anonymous No.12184552]

>>12184538
There were already a lot of exceptions to the one child policy. For the wealthy who weren't excepted, they could simply pay off the officials.
The poor families had to send their kids away or essentially hide them, so there's a large group of Chinese who received no education and have no health care because they're not officially recognized as even existing.

[Anonymous No.12184558]

>>12184532
>trusting china to implement any policy successfully

[Anonymous No.12184559]

>>12184544
They're behind the USA and quite a few European countries.

[Anonymous No.12184561]

>>12184544
Why the fuck do other countries use commas as
decimal points, that shit makes no sense. 7.00 vs. 7,00... which one makes more sense

[Anonymous No.12184568]

>>12184544
heh... let me over there bud... i'll fill them china bitches fulla babies... young dumb and fulla cum they'll be... heh... "Ti Ying"? more like "peen sing" cuz she'll be singin on my peen...

Dave Hayden
USMC '87-'89 1171 "Water DOGS!"
"Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, 80are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are luucky to have them, for they make teh battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrrior, ansd he will bring the other's back."

[Anonymous No.12184576]

>>12184568
go back to /k/ please

[Anonymous No.12184578]

>>12184568
thank you for your service

[Anonymous No.12184579]

>>12184559
In the USA it is because high fertility rates amongst latin american immigrants(hence why I said native born), otherwise it would be below China.
In Europe it varies per country, but most are below China as well, and discriminating birthrates between native-born and immigrants is hard.

[Anonymous No.12184585]

>>12184568
Do not do
>>12184576
this, because fuck this anon.

[Anonymous No.12184587]

>>12184491
I fucking wish but it will literally never happen

[Anonymous No.12184592]

>>12184585
should I have told him to go back to arfcom

[Anonymous No.12184594]

>>12184532
I’ve always been curious why exactly “””development””” kills birthrates. Civilization was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.12184599]

>>12184568
based, thank you for your service

[Anonymous No.12184603]

>>12184544
Those countries you're comparing it to are substantially richer.
China is undergoing demographic transition at a far lower level of economic development.

[Anonymous No.12184605]

>>12184576
>>12184592
Based newfag

[Anonymous No.12184608]

>>12184603
Still, they can course correct, like I said, and are ruthless enough to use any means to achieve so if they deem it necessary.

[Anonymous No.12184611]

>>12184605
knowing about ancient memes from /k/ about the retarded boomers on arfcom doesn't make me a newfag, anon
I just don't think those memes have any place on /sci/ or in this spaceflight thread

[Anonymous No.12184618]

>>12184594
Women have access to both birth control and a welfare state. Removing both would fix the problem.

[Anonymous No.12184619]

>>12184603
China is one of the few nations that would actually try to solve this issue by raising the birthrates of their primary ethnic demographic instead of importing hostile, evil, and alien foreigners.

[Anonymous No.12184620]

>>12184611
Based unnecessarily serious faggot

[Anonymous No.12184622]

>>12184568
> 1171 "Water DOGS!"
Only the best and bravest went for that MOS.
Thank you for doing what needed to be done.

[Anonymous No.12184633]

>>12184620

[Anonymous No.12184634]

>>12184618
>Women have access to both birth control and a welfare state.

Why don’t women more commonly have a breeding urge? It’s as if they’re infected by some deleterious meme.

[Anonymous No.12184638]

>>12184622
What’s a water dog?

[Anonymous No.12184639]

>>12184620
>>12184611
>>12184605
Real talk tho, as penance I'll post some hi res pics of the Shuttle since we're at the bump limit.

[Anonymous No.12184646]

>>12184639

[Anonymous No.12184647]

>>12184638
1171 is the MOS for the the Marines in house plumbers
they deal with everybody's poop and make sure you can take a shower

[Anonymous No.12184649]

>>12184646

[Anonymous No.12184650]

>>12184634
Birth control tricks their body into thinking it's already pregnant.

[Anonymous No.12184655]

>>12184649

[Anonymous No.12184657]

>>12184655

[Anonymous No.12184659]

Spaceflight

[Anonymous No.12184660]

>>12184657

[Anonymous No.12184661]

>>12184638
https://www.cool.navy.mil/usmc/enlisted/1171.htm
>and for an /sfg/-related comment
We see from these recent scrubs that conducting launch operations during a transition to a new generation of vehicles is complex. The ground infrastructure is aging, yet the needs of the new rockets sharply limit how much it makes sense to invest in upkeep of current system.s

[Anonymous No.12184662]

>>12184660

[Anonymous No.12184663]

>>12184662

[Anonymous No.12184664]

>>12184663

[Anonymous No.12184668]

>>12184568
Thanks you for cervix

[Anonymous No.12184670]

>>12184664

[Anonymous No.12184671]

koreastronauts best astronauts

[Anonymous No.12184673]

>>12184670
And done. Sorry I called you a faggot, bro >>12184611

[Anonymous No.12184674]

Did someone say shuttle?

[Anonymous No.12184676]

[Anonymous No.12184677]

>>12184650
Disturbing.
I long for the supposed “Islamic takeover” /pol/ lives in fear of.

[Anonymous No.12184681]

[Anonymous No.12184686]

Seriously can't decide if the Shuttle is fucking beautiful for being so novel and cool, or fucking ugly for being an SRB deathtrap

[Anonymous No.12184690]

[Anonymous No.12184691]

This is one of my favorite pics, it looks suspended in the vacuum but its traveling at 17,000mph

[Anonymous No.12184695]

>>12184686
it was beautiful in its terrible majesty

[Anonymous No.12184696]

>>12184686
Hot but crazy. YandereSpace.

[Anonymous No.12184701]

>>12184691
god I fucking hate that stupid fucking shitty logo canada puts on everything holy SHIT I never want to see that trash again
just use a fucking FLAG like literally everyone else in the fucking world does jesus christ

[Anonymous No.12184704]

>>12184701
CANADA

[Anonymous No.12184706]

>>12184686
It was beautiful, an ornament of a space programme.
It just never should've been the workhorse.

[Anonymous No.12184715]

>>12184594
High quality of life encourages focusing more investment into fewer offspring, coupled with less living space this leads to fewer total offspring. Low quality of life but large open spaces to live in (and perhaps plentiful natural resources such as edible fruits and animals) encourages larger birth rates, there will be a higher attrition rate among children so more must be had to maintain replacement rates.
This is all stuff humans and pretty much all other omnivores or obligate carnivores have evolved to know without the need for excessive thinking on the matter.

[Anonymous No.12184719]

>>12184701
why do they pride themselves in building a robot arm? like congratufuckinlations canada, you made stick. imagine being so inconsequential

[Anonymous No.12184731]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Identity_Program
literally not a fucking country
canada should be annexed and forced to use the American flag immediately

[Anonymous No.12184733]

>>12184715
>High quality of life

That’s a myth. “Developed” countries have lower qualities of life than fucking bushpeople

[Anonymous No.12184735]

If the belly flop maneuver proves infeasible for some reason, what are the alternatives?

[Anonymous No.12184736]

[Anonymous No.12184739]

[Anonymous No.12184740]

[Anonymous No.12184742]

>>12184735
just point it forward so you have less air resistance and it doesnt heat up as much, its that simple

[Anonymous No.12184748]

Has anyone made a RO SSTO?

[Anonymous No.12184751]

Why did she have to die bros?

[Anonymous No.12184752]

Hey /sfg/, I picked up ksp after being inspired by this general. I know something happened with /kspg/ on /vg/, but I have never heard what actually happened. pls spoonfeed me.

[Anonymous No.12184756]

>>12184752
imagine /ksg/ but even more autistic

[Anonymous No.12184758]

>>12184594
With development, both the direct and opportunity costs of having a child rise, for no additional personal gain. The need to spend years in education or training pushes such life events back, and makes them less likely to happen.
The people living in "less developed" societies generally would like fewer children, but their economic position and lack of education on the subject/access to birth control and the biological fact that, as Malthus put it, "the passion between the sexes is necessary and will remain nearly in its present state," combine to produce high birthrates.
>>12184701
Japan had a flag and the country's English name. They paid into these programmes, so they're going to apply their brand identity to them.

[Anonymous No.12184759]

>>12184752
imagine a general so bad its name in subject field gets the thread autosaged

[Anonymous No.12184762]

>>12184751
Honestly good question. Sad that USA didn't project paperclip the project somehow.

[Anonymous No.12184765]

>>12184762
Why would they? Wouldn't that basically amount to an admission that the space shuttle sucked and the soviets managed to make a better shuttle?

[Anonymous No.12184768]

>>12184758
yeah, but japan uses the flag as the primary element instead of some fucking awful wordmark that whoever designed it should have been shot

[Anonymous No.12184769]

Why can Soyuz launch in this? Are American launch providers all pussies?

[Anonymous No.12184770]

>>12184758
Decadent and dying civilizations are inevitably destroyed.

[Anonymous No.12184776]

>>12184762
Why would they?
They already had an orbiter, and weren't planning on building more.
Shame they didn't paperclip Energia. It would've kept SLS from existing and radically lowered the costs of the ISS.

[Anonymous No.12184778]

[Anonymous No.12184781]

>>12184778
yeah I'm thinking based

[Anonymous No.12184785]

>>12184739
Literally two apollo engines slapped next to three hydromeme engines

[Anonymous No.12184787]

>>12184778
The hell does this have to do with spaceflight

[Anonymous No.12184788]

>>12184769
https://youtu.be/DKx87zc5lsg

[Anonymous No.12184789]

>>12184778
Ladies and gentlemen, this is why the USA leads spaceflight

[Anonymous No.12184792]

>>12184778
Well someone just got fired. Kek

[Anonymous No.12184794]

>>12184778
>ground systems
explains all the scrubs

[Anonymous No.12184797]

Wait, did Antares get scrubbed? Is that three scrubs in the last 48 hours in spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.12184798]

>>12184778
hot mic! hot mic!

[Anonymous No.12184799]

>ULA - scrubs
>SpaceX - scrubs
>Northrop - scrubs
So, what the fuck is going on across the pond?

[Anonymous No.12184801]

>>12184797
3 scrubs in the last twenty four hours. Pain... all I know is pain

[Anonymous No.12184807]

Where is a good place to put Gainz Station 13?

[Anonymous No.12184808]

>>12184759
holy shit. even more curious now. seriously though, what happened? I know the refugees ended up in /egg/, but honestly, that general needs to be split.

[Anonymous No.12184809]

>>12184807
bend over and I'll show you

[Anonymous No.12184810]

>>12184769
weather in baikonur is totally shit for half the year and hot and windy for the other half, they don't really have the option of just waiting a couple days for optimal weather like you can do in florida or california
US philosophy is basically every time there's a weather related issue then try to fix the issue on the launch vehicle but also completely avoid those weather conditions forever just in case, slav philosophy is just build it sturdy and if something goes wrong LES exists so why worry

[Anonymous No.12184813]

>>12184807
low polar orbit for maximum kino

[Anonymous No.12184815]

>>12184810
To all anons who like spaceflight: I HIGHLY recommend this video. It perfectly encapsulates the difference in philosophy between USA and Russia philosophy.
https://youtu.be/814kuAcpemY

[Anonymous No.12184823]

>>12183776
Thanks, Brunel!

>>12182423
Its fun reading all the old scifi stories that have Venus as a Jungle Planet.

[Anonymous No.12184852]

>>12184778
what did nasa mean by this

[Anonymous No.12184862]

>>12183985
The NK33 that blew was one of the 60 left over from the N1 project.

[Anonymous No.12184867]

>>12183996
We bought a lot of Russian stuff starting in the 90s because of low cost and also to keep the Russian aerospace industry from collapsing and leading to an exodus of skilled engineers leaving the country to make ICBMs for Iran.

[Anonymous No.12184873]

>>12183752
snibeti snab! teh gurse of sgrubtoober sdriges again

[Anonymous No.12184891]

>>12184719
>why do they pride themselves in building a robot arm? like congratufuckinlations canada, you made stick. imagine being so inconsequential

It’s a really good stick though.

[Anonymous No.12184895]

Trump has Coronavirus and will die BTFO

[Anonymous No.12184896]

>>12184528
It won't work. Cost of living in urban areas is too high for more than one kid.

[Anonymous No.12184898]

>>12184896
Urban areas fucking suck. Cities were a mistake

[Anonymous No.12184907]

>>12184895
POTUS Pence, the White Fox. NASA's budget goes up a million fold and SpaceX gets a blank check

[Anonymous No.12184924]

scientifically speaking, what does jim smell like

[Anonymous No.12184925]

>>12184924
mt dew

[Anonymous No.12184926]

>>12184907
But what if there's a democrat senate and he's Punished Pence: A Man Denied His Budget Requests

[Anonymous No.12184927]

ABSURD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WQTCYsiS_s

[Anonymous No.12184928]

>>12184924
Aftershave, gold bond, and good old fashioned artificial lemon-lime flavor

[Anonymous No.12184931]

>>12184927
only TWO raptors will lift this absolutely ASTONISHING beast of a booster

[Anonymous No.12184934]

>>12184733
In the animal sense, that's not true. Food is plentiful and can for the most part be relied upon to be fresh, it can also be preserved and stored for much longer. Water is mostly clean and free of parasites. Even the most basic medical care available to nearly every person in developed countries obliterates almost all of the infant mortality issues faced by those in completely undeveloped countries, and offers a broad range of readily available treatments for preventable or treatable diseases which would in the absence of modern medicine be fatal.
One can argue about the psychological and social ills of modernity all day, or about the lifetime nutritional benefits of different diets, but in the end far fewer people living in the developed world die young or violently, this puts less of a pressure on us to reproduce as much, and more of a pressure to invest heavily in few offspring.

[Anonymous No.12184938]

>>12184931
I'd imagine though that's only when it's partially fueled.

[Anonymous No.12184942]

forestry jobs on mars when bros?

[Anonymous No.12184949]

>>12184934
Life is easier in the developed world, and that’s a BAD THING. LIFE IS SUPPOSED TO BE REALLY HARD YOU FUCKING IDIOT. That’s why people in “”developed”” countries are so depressed and mentally ill and freakish
Return to monke

[Anonymous No.12184957]

>>12184949
>Return to monke
Yeah bro just dismantle your space programs haha

[Anonymous No.12184963]

>>12184957
Colonizing other planets offers a frontier experience which is a step up from the soulless nightmare of typical industrial society

[Anonymous No.12184979]

>>12184594
With abundance and ease of access to basic resources, as well as developed health and social care children stop being an investment into your future when you're too old and weak to feed yourself and become more like a nuisance that only drain your income you could use for yourself

[Anonymous No.12184985]

>>12184963
Which can only be achieved through a typical industrial society.

[Anonymous No.12184997]

>>12184985
(different anon) True, but (in my opinion) it offers a way for the scientific-inclined to escape to a wild frontier where they can utilize their knowledge to do some of the most cutting edge science, while at the same time live out a frontier lifestyle. Geologists for example will bring all the tools and computers and software/hardware they need. Life will be just as much about growing food and upkeeping the colony as it will be crunching numbers and studying outcrops and graphing/interpreting geochemical data from the microscope. Yeah you need an industrial society for this but only to the extent that they can make you rolls of stainless steel and methalox engines to get you where you need to go. Why have a boring oil office job in a concrete jungle when you can go to the Moon or Mars

[Anonymous No.12185010]

>>12184927
Super Heavy is comically large

[Anonymous No.12185015]

is he gonna be alright bros?

[Anonymous No.12185020]

>>12184979
So soulless hedonists and their DNA are culled from the population. I love Darwinism

[Anonymous No.12185024]

>>12184985
Not necessarily. Technology can probably be exploited without the societal cancers common to the “””first world””” developing. A healthier and more fertile civilization will replace modern industrial civilization after it inevitably collapses in the near historical future, along with the possible birth of a secondary civilization on Mars, if resource independence is achieved before Earth civilization falls apart.

[Anonymous No.12185025]

My first words on mars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ

[Anonymous No.12185026]

>>12184997
“Return to monke” is retarded but I really like what you’re getting at. I envy the people of the next century who will live in a world where traveling to Mars or Titan or Ganymede is like a cruise ship trip to another country.

Lucky bastards. But maybe the fact that space is so inaccessible to us now is what makes it special.

[Anonymous No.12185032]

>>12185024
Elon estimates independence will come 50 to 100 years after the first landing.

I’m just curious as to when the first conflict between to worlds will occur.

[Anonymous No.12185033]

>>12185025
Lmao. When your professor asks you for a 30 page writeup but you only have four sentences worth of a conclusion to really give

[Anonymous No.12185041]

>>12185032
This is all sci fi thinking but I guess it's worth talking about as a possibility. I'll give my two cents. It's very likely that conflict won't happen. At least not between planets. There will probably be intra-colony conflicts as the retarded people who can afford colony startups start fucking with the planet and hogging important areas. The only "revolutionary war 2.0" scenario I can see happening would be kickstarted by a retarded administration who taxes all rockets going to Mars and demands 50% from all profits once colonies become self-sustaining

[Anonymous No.12185047]

>>12185026
“Return to monke” is genius and a natural reaction to the horrors of modern life.

[Anonymous No.12185050]

So this is just my coom brain thinking, but microgravity creampies. Think about it. In gravity the coom just runs down a women's leg, but in microgravity the coom will tend to stay in the pussy because of surface tension. It's possible that creampies could last days. You could just keep filling her up every day and she'd have a constant creampie. I bet that intercourse in space will be more likely to cause fertilization than on earth because of this.

[Anonymous No.12185051]

>>12185032
Earth will be in no position to bully Martians when they’re living in burned-out cities filled with bones because the oil ran out

[Anonymous No.12185054]

>>12185047
“Return to monke” is genius until you scrape your knee and die of gangrene.

Modern life is not that bad you’re just looking at it and only seeing shit. Get out and have fun. You have one chance at life do something with it.

[Anonymous No.12185055]

>>12185041
Fighting is natural and good. Hopefully Martian colonies beat the shit out of eachother.

[Anonymous No.12185056]

Musk is posting SS updates rn

[Anonymous No.12185057]

>looking for more parts to make me retarded lander work
>realize I've never isntalled B9 aerospace so give that a try
>find these external RCS blocks that even have RO configs
im gonna fucking COOOM bros, finally I have some good external RCS that doesn't look like shit

[Anonymous No.12185059]

>>12185054
>“Return to monke” is genius until you scrape your knee and die of gangrene.

Apes get hurt all the time but they get over it.

> Modern life is not that bad you’re just looking at it and only seeing shit.

It’s literally the worst way to live humans have yet concocted. People huddle in unnaturally dense cities with unnatural lighting while their brains rot from air pollution
At least we can do cool shit like go to Ranger school or hunt still.

[Anonymous No.12185060]

>>12185047
I mean I get your point, but it isn't like we are going to some desert oasis with oxygen and natural springs to drink from with climate weather. Mars doesn't want humans to survive there naturally. It will take our best technology, only available because of an industrial society, to even survive and grow on the Martian surface. Look at it this way... going and building a research station at the South Pole certainly isn't return to monke. It does, however, offer a chance to sort of "restart" civilization from scratch. The first batch of people will be scientists. But as Elon's proposed "city" grows they will need to impliment rules and ways of life from the ground up. In that respect it is return to monke

[Anonymous No.12185063]

>>12185059
Lots of apes die from illnesses too. Or from predators. Or other accidents.

I get that but seriously man life is way better for humans now than ever before.

[Anonymous No.12185068]

>>12185063
No iti s not. In the past I could have been a millionaire ladies man

[Anonymous No.12185073]

>>12185056
More important than the SS update is the news that laser interlinks for Starlink are progressing well.
He seems like he's in a good mood about quite a few things right now.

[Anonymous No.12185081]

>>12185060
>Mars doesn't want humans to survive there naturally.

Yeah but neither does Earth. You couldn’t walk around naked eating berries and not fearing predators basically anywhere. Native Americans had to survive every winter in America without air conditioning, access to plant foods, and lower game populations by using animal skins to create insulating clothing and staying near warm fires, and engaging in time-consuming and strenuous hunting with simple weapons like spears, bows, and snare traps. That’s the whole point; satisfying basic needs is a time-consuming and important goal you face daily, but can surmount, not a side task solved by going through the McDonald’s drive thru on the way to work. That is how humans achieve optimum psychological wellbeing and do not sink into pathology. Of course, Mars will eventually no longer be a frontier over the course of decades and maybe centuries of colonization and expansion, so then it’s further beyond the Sun’s light for those with adventure at heart.

Perhaps this enterprising spirit will lead mankind to plunge into the interstellar void in due time.

[Anonymous No.12185082]

>>12185063
If it was actually “way better” then tribespeople would rate their average happiness lower than people in civilized countries do, and exhibit way more mental illnesses, but it’s the other way around.

[Anonymous No.12185091]

>>12185081
Bro all things considered earth is amazing. The average temperature for this planet is quite climate. You absolutely could survive butt naked: We come from africa where this was possible in the past. As we expanded out to, say, europe we used the skins of animals for clothes. When we got to hot places we built shelter with natural cooling. Not every place here is survivable but for the most part it is
proof: this is the planet we evolved on so by definition it supports humans in their natural form

[Anonymous No.12185092]

>>12185082
But you're being a bit cute-some civilized populations have much lower rates of mental illness than others. And some tribes rape children and do all kinds of hideous shit to women or the disabled. They have no conception of democracy, or the universe,of of their own bodies.

They will die with the world. We will go on and inherit the stars.

[Anonymous No.12185095]

>>12185082
I’ve had this discussion with my archeology professor back in college. We concluded that, 2 million years ago, there definitely HAD to be at LEAST a few instances of early humans who happened to live in an area with plentiful food and perfect weather. It’s very likely that a troglodyte from way in the past lived to be 50 years old... never had a bad day in his life, and died of natural causes. Just eating and fucking and hunting all day everyday with the tribe

[Anonymous No.12185102]

>>12185082
>If it was actually “way better” then tribespeople would rate their average happiness lower than people in civilized countries do
Yes human perception of quality of life is relative. Doesn't exactly seem like a reasonable excuse to revert to a lower level of resource consumption to me.
>exhibit way more mental illnesses
That's just because we have the resources to accept more dead weight and let such people live halfway productive lives.

[Anonymous No.12185105]

>>12185091
>You absolutely could survive butt naked

Only in the tropics where humans evolved. Hunter-gatherers from such environments are practically naked except for loincloths, but it gets more complicated if you start talking about temperate environments and deserts or steppes and such. It can get very cold in Europe and America in the winter, cold enough to kill.

> Not every place here is survivable but for the most part it is

You can survive anywhere from Australia to the arctic circle utilizing only Paleolithic technology but it’d be strenuous regardless of wherever you chose to inhabit.

[Anonymous No.12185109]

>>12185102
>Doesn't exactly seem like a reasonable excuse to revert to a lower level of resource consumption to me.

I’d definitely use less resources if it improved my wellbeing

> That's just because we have the resources to accept more dead weight and let such people live halfway productive lives.

That’s not a good thing

[Anonymous No.12185115]

>>12185105
Yeah. I think PART of what fueled human’s mental evolution was the fact that we expanded (be it to follow food, look for new land, pure curiosity, etc.) The conditions weren’t always favorable so we had to adapt: make clothes, develop new technology, forge metals to make life easier. I think expanding into harsher environments helped kickstart the ability to do more and more complex things, out of necessity. Even in the golden age of exploration this was the case. When you have the ability to construct armadas of ships and store food for voyages, why not go chart the entire globe? Why not go to Mars? If we didn’t do these things we would still be dwelling in africa, fighting for resources, likely extinct already due to endless fighting and never leaving the monke stage

[Anonymous No.12185116]

>>12185109
I’d definitely use less resources if it improved my wellbeing.
It wouldn't. All you'll do is take a step down in the pyramid of self actualization so the time you used to spend wondering about the world and your place in it is now spent trying to secure resources for subsistence.

[Anonymous No.12185123]

>>12185092
>But you're being a bit cute-some civilized populations have much lower rates of mental illness than others

It’s worst in the most “developed” places for whatever reason. Southern South America. Western Europe. North America. East Asia

> And some tribes rape children and do all kinds of hideous shit to women or the disabled.

Yeah? Doesn’t mean it’s not better psychologically for a human to monkey around bashing rocks together than to sit in a cubicle under those weird grey-white lights that cause migraines.

> They have no conception of democracy, or the universe,of of their own bodies.

So? They have a good time and don’t care about Alpha Centauri’s metallicity, because there’s no need for surrogate activities when sustaining yourself is difficult and time consuming.

[Anonymous No.12185127]

>>12184927
There's something about seeing a CG concept video for a crazy future tech like every aerospace company makes but then knowing that I'm gonna see it happen for real in a month or two that still feels surreal about this entire era.

[Anonymous No.12185128]

>>12185116
Yeah I for one agree with this. The idea of living in a cave society has been romanticized. Life is utter shit. If you went back with the knowledge you have now you would get tired of trying to kill mastodons with rocks. You would quickly find the smartest guy in the tribe and have him smelt iron. You would then want the best clothes as soon as the weather turned south. You would want to establish trading networks if you had an abundance of one thing and other tribes had an abundance of another. You would want boats to facilitate more trade... basically if you started society over it would all go down the same path again and you would end up going from flint knapping to building spaceships anyways

[Anonymous No.12185135]

>>12185115
I have no idea why the ancestors of the Inuit decided to live on ice when they could move south and hunt deer in the forest but whatever floats their boat I suppose. Stagnation is death and stagnation is what the world at large is in, but it is possible to escape the crab bucket and stride across the surface of other worlds as intrepid explorers looking to settle on the fringe.

[Anonymous No.12185144]

>>12185116
Dunno what the fuck the point of “self actualization” or “wondering shout the world” is supposed to be when it evidently doesn’t make humans happier.
As if the modern prole is somehow elevated because he knows the sun is made of hydrogen and a caveman didn’t. It has no practical bearing on their lives whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.12185159]

>>12185128
>If you went back with the knowledge you have now you would get tired of trying to kill mastodons with rocks.

I dunno I have lots of fun bow hunting.

[Anonymous No.12185184]

In space, is it possible to keep methane below boiling point entirely with semi-passive cooling?

[Anonymous No.12185201]

making progress on my stupid fucking lander, engines and control avionics are sorted out and I can hover it and fly it around waypoints and land around the KSC without problems now
I want to figure out a nice mount for the engines that doesn't look like shit, but it's tricky because I'm stuck with a cylindrical body because procedural polygons don't support tapering or chamfers and I can't find any good structural parts for the body

[Anonymous No.12185209]

>>12185201
Where do the people go?

[Anonymous No.12185214]

>>12185128
People often believe that if they were sent back in time they would be able to rapidly advance society, but how much does the average person or even someone very knowledgable know about production from basic resources?
At least they'd know the gist of things.
Personally I could:
>tell them that metal comes from heating the right rocks, but I don't know the technique and can't identify ores
>design a furnace able to reach sufficient temperatures
>give a hint for how to make steel
>design a written language
>show how to make basic mechanisms, and maybe even a lathe (a lathe would help enormously)
>emphasise the importance of figuring out electricity and explain how magnets can create current, although I do not know how to produce artificial magnets nor how to actually use electricity for anything (except perhaps lights, but I'd have no clue how to produce the materials for it)
>slim possibility of a steam engine (would be very difficult to manufacture and optimise to a useful state, even if the basic principles are clear to me)

So personally I could only get technology to a very imbalanced state where the prerequisites for an industrial revolution exist, but not enough is known or developed to actually make use of that technology. One of the only practical things that could possibly come about from it within my lifetime would be trains.

[Anonymous No.12185244]

>>12183797
crabs-in-a-bucket mentality, misery enjoys company

[Anonymous No.12185251]

>>12184250
My privately-funded asteroid mining colony will only recognize marriage between femboys and definitely-not-gay-i-swear /fit/ men.

[Anonymous No.12185270]

>>12185209
it's unmanned, started out as just trying to figure out how to get a rover on the moon for a contract, but since then mission creeped to become a generalized cargo lander for dropping off rovers or equipment or base habitats or whatever else needs to go down
I wish I could give a more exposed structural look like pic related, but since I can't find any parts to make that possible it has to be a bucket instead

[Anonymous No.12185322]

Starship update in ~3 weeks, according to Musk

[Anonymous No.12185344]

>>12185201
prettied it up a bit and moved from pad testing to lunar testing, results not perfect but better than I expected on the first try
some issues with thrust vectoring oscillations spinning it out a few times and TWR needs to be reduced for final landing burn, but with some better RCS and maybe reaction wheels for fine pointing stability it should be good

[Anonymous No.12185348]

Why are electric power systems so fat and gay? All I want is a featherweight spaceship I can use with ice ISRU and non chemical propulsion.

[Anonymous No.12185354]

>>12185348
just steal one of lockheeds compact submarine fusion reactors and hook up some big boy MPD thrusters to it

[Anonymous No.12185371]

>>12185348
Just use zero point energy, bro.
You might start a false vaccuum catastrophe, but at least your space craft will have been dope for one microsecond.

[Anonymous No.12185429]

>>12185214
Even without seeing any of those come to fruition it would still massively advance the world by many hundreds of years just from them having the most basic building blocks for it (assuming the people you taught all this to didn't get wiped out and all of it forgotten).
>>12185322
Update about what?

[Anonymous No.12185431]

>>12185057
B9 parts is an absolute must for KSP

[Anonymous No.12185566]

>>12184271
Does the Starship payload include the vehicle itself?

[Anonymous No.12185569]

>>12185566
No.

[Anonymous No.12185578]

>>12184674
>"Man this space station sure is cold"
>"It almost feels like a... Blizzard"
>Shuttle emergency undocks and blasts rock music as it thrusts away at top speed.

[Anonymous No.12185607]

>>12185184
If you're out beyond the asteroid belt, absolutely.

[Anonymous No.12185608]

How would you move a sun?

[Anonymous No.12185612]

>>12185608
shkadov thruster

[Anonymous No.12185629]

>Elon Musk stated that Super Heavy would use a lot of the same components as Starship, so its development should be fairly straightforward
oh no no no! it's happening again

[Anonymous No.12185639]

>>12185608
>Build small, artificial sun
>Build ring worlds around it
>Build Dyson sphere around that
>Syphon off plasma to power fusion torches to move ringworld/shieldworld/cybertron planet-thing
>...
>Profit!

[Anonymous No.12185664]

>>12185608
Big ass teleporter

[Anonymous No.12185682]

>>12185608
No dessert or video games until it happens.

[Anonymous No.12185688]

Reminder to exercise or you’re a faggot beta male

[Anonymous No.12185699]

>>12185608
A huge half-spherical mirror on one side of the sun:
the sun would eject photons only from one side, meaning it goes in the opposite direction.

[Anonymous No.12185701]

>>12185688
>Tfw you hiked and did field science shit all the time since you were a kid and soon a lower gravity frontier will open up
Feels good man

[Anonymous No.12185705]

Was Sagan based

[Anonymous No.12185709]

>>12185705
For the most part yeah

[Anonymous No.12185728]

>>12185699
That just sounds like a solar sail with more steps

[Anonymous No.12185730]

>>12185705
For a while I started to dismiss Sagan because he became the hero to 12 year old atheists everywhere but after re-watching Cosmos I have to say he's still pretty based

[Anonymous No.12185748]

>>12185728
Yes, but how would you attach a solar sail to the sun?

[Anonymous No.12185758]

>>12185748
attach the cable to the night side duh

[Anonymous No.12185763]

NEW THREAD >>12185720
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>NEW THREAD >>12185720

[Anonymous No.12185764]

>>12185763
>page 9

[Anonymous No.12185821]

>>12184862
Why exactly did they think that using engines from a project that failed because of its untestable engines was a good idea?

[Anonymous No.12185823]

>>12184927
The livestream UIs gave me a chuckle

[Anonymous No.12186051]

>>12184927
>test stand didn't shatter
>engines aren't on fire in skirt cam
2/10

[Anonymous No.12186068]

>>12185608
>you take the sun
>you push it somewhere else