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When did it hit you that every second person has a two digit IQ?

>> No.12161376

>>12161073
Every second person also works a pretty good job while I work for free in an unpaid internship despite being in the top 5% of human beings.

>> No.12161391

>>12161073
I dropped out of school to travel and 'experience life'
Up until that point I lived my whole life in an IQ bubble. It was pretty eye opening realizing how dumb the average person is. The world makes so much more sense to me now.

>> No.12161403

A reminder that around 0.1% of the world population work as scientists. That means that (if IQ is objective measure and if you need to be clever to be a scientist), having 150 IQ is necessary prerequisite to be even the pretty shitty scientist. If we are talking about really successful scientists, then you get closer to 170 IQ. If you are a 120-130 retard, forget about achieving anything in /sci/ence.

>> No.12161410

>>12161403
I have a 115 IQ and I'm published. I spearheaded the research too.

>> No.12161412

>>12161403

there are probably thousands of people with an iq of 150 collecting garbage in india

>> No.12161427

if someone with an iq of 70 is mentally retarded does that mean someone with an iq of 100 is mentally retarded to someone with an iq of 140?

>> No.12161653

>>12161412
Millions of such people collecting garbage in india.

>> No.12161658

>>12161427
you mean 130 you retard

>> No.12161663

>>12161658

130 is not intelligent

>> No.12161675

when I was first put in school with other children, so around 3 years old. I've always known I was "different" desu

>> No.12161858

Just go outside and talk to people. It's honestly fucking scary. How to people manage to their day to day lives.

>> No.12162057

>>12161412
150 IQ people don't collect garbage. IQ is not determined by genetics, it's determined by practice. You may have the potential, but IQ is the end result.

>> No.12162106

>>12162057

wrong

>> No.12162117

>>12161073
depends on the context too, since statistical distributions about human qualities follows the law of geography

>> No.12162150

>>12162057
Genetics has a huge impact on IQ regardless of socioeconomic situation, education, etc.

That said, it's relatively unlikely to have genetic high IQ families being stuck in really shitty life situations since they will have multiple generations of chances to use their smarts to get into a better social class.

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>>12161073
You can tell just watching them talk that they're regarded but the higher iq ones are always a little jumpy/nervous unless they have some form of autism or good self control.

>> No.12162295

>>12161073
I absolutely love university. Never before in my life I felt at home as I do now. On the other hand, I'm very uncomfortable anywhere else; it's disturbing to see how stupid the average man is.

>> No.12162385

>>12161376
>I am the top 5% of humans
Lol, at what big boy?

>> No.12162560

>>12161403
>having 150 IQ is necessary prerequisite to be even the pretty shitty scientist.
Lmfao, no. I could name 5 Nobel prize winners, including those in physics, that had an IQ in the range of 125-135.

>> No.12162571

>>12162560
That's 5 off the top of my head without looking for it.

>> No.12162615

>>12161073
1993

>> No.12162699

>>12161073
Is that really correct? How many people have exactly a 100 IQ? It can't be an infinitesimal quantity due to the lack of resolution on IQ measurements. Since 100 is a three digit number, people at exactly 100 throw things off to where slightly less than one in two people have a two digit IQ and slightly more than one in two people have three digit IQs.

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12162725

>>12161073
THIS GUY IS FUCKING STUPID

>> No.12163404

>>12161376
>I have extremely high iq
Literally every faggot online thinks that

>> No.12164377

>>12161073
I have a one digit IQ

>> No.12164722

>>12162150
I come from a family of successful and wealthy people, one of them is a real estate millionaire, but my dad married my mom then divorced her and I grew up with a single mom working at a sewing store.

>> No.12164725

>>12161073
When I read your post

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>>12161073
>every second person on this board has a two digit IQ
Explains a lot really

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>>12161073
>When did it hit you that every second person has a two digit IQ?

I live in southern USA... I can literally look at at someone and tell you they are double digit IQs

>> No.12164850

>>12161663
I guess this makes sense
I think it's more applicable in terms of how much complexity those people can confidently handle and how fast they realize patterns. Ie the 100 IQ is to the 70 as 130 is to the 100
>>12162699
Assuming IQ scores are approximately normally distributed the probability of any person scoring exactly 100 (and not 99.x or 100.x) any approaches zero
But I suppose the over/underestimation is practically irrelevant when considering the population as a whole
>>12164774
Assumes the board's user base mirrors the population which may or may not be true, and probably isn't

>> No.12164877

>/sci/
>representative for the general population

>> No.12165143

>>12161412
>there are probably thousands of people with an iq of 150 collecting garbage in india
>India has an average IQ of 84

>> No.12165213

>>12165143
>N = 1.37 billion

>> No.12165316

>>12161376
>I work for free in an unpaid internship
>being in the top 5% of human beings
These are mutually exclusive

>> No.12165321

>>12161403
Youre throwing these numbers around without having any idea what they mean.

>> No.12165348

>>12163404
1 in 20 is not that rare

>> No.12165447

>>12161403
Average IQ is based on white Americans, not the world population.

>> No.12165482

I have an IQ of 140 and I feel like a retard.

>> No.12165505

It occurred to me a long time ago that one in every two people has below average intelligence. Later in life, it occurred to me that is a more useful statistic to point out that eight in ten people are real close to average.

>> No.12165515

>>12165505
Absolutely based Tooker

>> No.12165549

>>12165316
I'm published and I can code. I just can't prove that I can code because everyone wants company experience. Only 1/100 people are published before they are even a grad student on this continent and I am one of them.

>> No.12165628

>>12165549
You might be published but are you cited in others' papers? Academia is awash with unread, makework papers by people who can find the occasional acorn.

>> No.12165688

>>12165505
Yeah but if the average person is an idiot...

>> No.12165914

>>12165549
I published my cock into your mom and I can code and get paid for it

>> No.12165967

>>12162150
With an 2 digit IQ you have to believe that smart people have nothing better to do as engage in a game of comparing dick-size.

>> No.12165974

>>12162699
"every second person" isn't a high-precision statement. Even the presence of 1-digit IQ people doesn't really change things significantly.

>> No.12165980

If you are smart you going to make you life better.
No wrong you just going to hate people and humiliate them cause this is what they earn.

>> No.12166081

>>12161403
No, more like 145, and also creativity is very relevant here, that is just being intelligent isn't enough, you need to also have novel ideas, and some of these people with novel ideas will have sub 145 IQs and be better scientists than 170IQ robots who only know how to do math very quickly with few mistakes. IQ stops being a significant predictor of life success past about 120, and there is also a certain upper limit where the social disconnect is even an impediment, and someone with a 170 IQ would definitely be affected by this. The 130–160 range is ideal—above midwit but still capable of relating to and working with other people.

>> No.12166089

>>12165505
>8/10
Eww simplify your fractions pls

>> No.12166105

>>12161073
the first time I read about IQ you fucking brainlet

>> No.12166120

>>12166089
.8/1

>> No.12166525

>>12161391
fell for the PhD (which is essentially wageslaving, but people think you are smart).
Thinking of dropping out and travelling Europe on 15 euro air fare tickets.

did you fugg hot backpackers trying to find themselves?
should I do it?

>inb4 pajeet
I am European

>> No.12166705

>>12166089
In this case it's better not to simplify the fraction

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>>12161073
>assuming IQ is distributed normally in the population and that therefore median = mean

>> No.12166752

>>12162057
Imagine actually believing this.

>> No.12166815

>>12164850
>I think it's more applicable in terms of how much complexity those people can confidently handle and how fast they realize patterns. Ie the 100 IQ is to the 70 as 130 is to the 100
Not true. The difference between 120 and 130 is the speed at which some book about philosophy can be understood.
The jump from 80 to 90 is whether the person needs extensive schooling for manual labor tasks or is generally okay on their own.

>> No.12166858

>>12165628
How would I be cited within days of it happening?

>> No.12167183

>>12166525
The problem atm is covid. Im planning to hold tight and finish the degree and then go off backpacking

>> No.12167257

>>12167183
fuck covid man. Europe is open, and cheap.
I will simply not go home to endanger my family.

I'd rather do this than physical chemistry PhD

>> No.12167414

>>12161403
If you are smart, you want to be a scientist.
If you were really smart, and with a tiny bit of experience in the field, you would realize that being a scientist is a fucking dead end.

Our time on earth is too precious to waste it chazing grants and publishing papers on abstract shit that nobody really cares about. Shit that was here long before us, and will be here long after we're gone.

>> No.12167433

>>12166746
IQ IS CALCULATED SPECIFICALLY TO FIT A NORMAL DISTRIBUTION SO THAT SD = 15 AND MEAN = MODE = MODE = 100 YOU FREAKIN' MORON

>> No.12167454 [DELETED] 

>>12161073
When I realized that immediately clamping off the umbilical cord, vitamin K injection, vaccination, and lack of brestfeeding prune off 3-10 points each.

>> No.12167469 [DELETED] 

>>12167454
Also, fuck the IQ scale. Absolute metric or go home.

>> No.12167489

>>12167469
IQ being normalized makes it easier to interpret.

>> No.12167496 [DELETED] 

>>12167489
While obfuscating underlying changes.

>> No.12167689

>>12161073
I have always known even as a kid most people are idiots but at least in irl you generally gravitate towards people like you, birds of a feather and all that, so you generally the mass of stupidity that constitutes humanity. Social media however quickly brought back into reality. Most people are so stupid it is astonishing, you can't have a relativity simple conversation with most people, they are barely even literate. So social media I guess and this board is no different. Most of the people on this board are really stupid

>> No.12167694

>>12167689
>so you generally
*so you can generally avoid

>> No.12167919

>>12161376
intelligence is just one quantifier
There's physical capabilities too
Then there's drive

>> No.12167923

>>12167496
Well if you wanna look at changes then of course IQ is bad, but in terms of comparing an individual to the population, it works pretty well. Context dictates which system is better.

>> No.12167965

This isn't true, the demarcation is 100, a triple-digit. You'd then have less than half double-digit people unless the entire lower half was offset by sperg lord outliers

>> No.12168286

>>12161073
When I read about George Carlin saying that explicitly.

>> No.12169448

>>12161073
Do we know for sure IQ is an absolutely standard distribution, with both tails crossing the X axis at the same mirrored point?

>> No.12169485

>>12167965
If you don't round but only count the digits before the decimal, it's exactly half, or one person less than the other "half".

>> No.12169512

>>12169448

central limit theorem

>> No.12169520

>>12169448
It is by definition and construction normally distributed. It cannot be otherwise.

>> No.12169543

>>12169520
So what's the probability that someone exists with a negative IQ?

>> No.12169650

>>12169543
1.3*10^-9%

>> No.12169907 [DELETED] 

>>12167923
Okay, I will partially yield to your point.

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>>12161403
Only four posts in, and our winner steps forward. Behold: the Official Thread Retard

>> No.12169932

>>12169543

You can't score less than 0 on the test.

>> No.12170432

>>12162057
Intelligence not Industriousness

>> No.12170435

>>12166089
8=D----------

>> No.12170467

>>12169448
hey retard, the tails in a normal distribution NEVER cross the x axis

>> No.12170469

>>12161073
with a million iq you could imagine and understand chaotic function whic have infinite complexity

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>>12165505
>one in every two people has below average intelligence.
This statement feels wrong. I just can't formulate why.

>> No.12170634

>>12162571
Go on then.

>> No.12170647

>>12162615
I miss 1993. It was a comfy year.

>> No.12170746

>>12161073
Never, cause I don't give a shit unlike you obsessed faggots. Dumbfucks.

>> No.12170772

>>12169932
But we know the test is only an approximation to a normally distributed statistic, because the number of possible scores is finite.

>> No.12170774

>>12170467
No values with a negative density? Aw, shucks;

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>>12161376
I feel like society is really dysgenic. Shits on intelligent people while rewarding low iq

>> No.12170817

~40% of Americans are young earth creationists, who believe our planet is approx. 10.000 years old. The implications are more interesting than IQ
itself.

>> No.12170820

>>12170816
It’s more that society rewards immoral behavior than it does low intelligence. I would argue the result is the same though. If you’re stupid you are more likely to think practices like networking and social media marketing are acceptable.

>> No.12170827

>>12164774
4chan appeals to high IQ

>> No.12170842

>>12170827
are you in 2010? it’s the opposite now and has been for a while. this site is pretty much the hub for brainless, immoral political extremists. this is probably the forum/message board with the worst average intelli-jans

>> No.12170947

>>12170827
4chan appeals to the dregs of humanity.
To the shit

>> No.12171345

>>12170518
well it is sort of a consequence per construction