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alpaca edition
previous: >>12130364
launch schedule: https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
pop: soon

>> No.12133721

>>12133708
Shoebill > Alpaca

>> No.12133725
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ALMA is my girlfriend!

>> No.12133730

sn7.1 being YEETED tonight

>> No.12133732

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AV0h8A4k6U link for pop

>> No.12133733
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scientifically speaking, why does looking at big brain technology in mostly undisturbed remote locations make my dick hard

>> No.12133742

>>12133733
they tend to look scifi due to their mix of scenic locations and advanced technology

>> No.12133746

>>12133708
>Dynetics lander
Hey, that thing's gonna be built next door to my university.

>> No.12133749

>>12133746
sneak in and stuff your cumsock in her balls

>> No.12133750

>>12133708
I read comments earlier this week that said this had the best shot of making the cut by NASA, followed by Starship. Seems like nobody cares about Blue Origin's lander tho.

>> No.12133764

>>12133750
Yeah, it’s the most practical design with the most flexibility. Starship is kinda overkill for the scale of exploration that they’re currently planning for, but it’d be awesome if they could offer it at a price that NASA couldn’t refuse.

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They cant scrub a pop, can they

>> No.12133775

Dynetics seem cool.

Is it just me or is it ultra gay and unfair that BO are part of the "National" team. Unwarranted prestige. Never even been to orbit for christ's sakes.

>> No.12133776

>>12133774
I haven’t been following what’s been going on in Boca China. Have they still not been able to blow that thing up?

>> No.12133778

>>12133708
seriously whats the fucking deal with her solar panels
are they actually different lengths or just placed in different locations and why would you do either of those
i guess maybe they rotate around the one axis and they are placed on opposite corners so they can't block each other when they are turned to the side, but they would still block each other if the sun is coming diagonally

>> No.12133786

>>12133776
Not yet. Trying again tonight, hopefully.

>> No.12133787

>>12133721
First post truth post.

>> No.12133798
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>> No.12133812

>>12133798
the japs should make a rocket anime kind of like that gun anime

i want electron-chan to be a small soft spoken dark-skinned girl and falcon 9 chan to a rough and tumble tomboy. falcon heavy should be a musclegirl,and Starship should be tall and very ara ara~

>> No.12133851
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>>12133749
Which futa hentai is this?
>>12133812
You mean Upotte!!?
>tfw no Saturn V milf gf
but also
>tfw no SS-520-4 pocket rocket loli gf

>> No.12133858

>>12133851
Oh man I love it, Saturn 5 is the upperclassman/student council president who is aloof and intimidating, but really cares about everyone.

>> No.12133859

>>12133812
>tfw no comfy cgdct anime about irec

>> No.12133879

>>12133721
Ka2ban-chan is best girl

>> No.12133893

>>12133879
>>12133787
>>12133721
for me, it's snek (tsuchinoko)

>> No.12133911
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>>12133858
>deep down has a rugged optimism- "roll up your sleeves and get it done"
>genuinely wants the best for everyone but comes across as condescending and unimpressed with everything
>wishes people would rely on her more
This fake rocket anime has more merit to its waifus than it has any right to.

>> No.12133921

pop when

>> No.12133928
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How about 1 atmosphere hardsuits?

>> No.12133930

>>12133928
>stopping at 1atm
bruh
5atm pure oxy hardsuits when?

>> No.12133933

>>12133930
Apollo 1

>> No.12133935

5G
5ATM
PURE
OXY
GAINS
STATION

>> No.12133937

vacuum rated skinsuits when

>> No.12133940

>>12133725
Mine too.

>> No.12133942

>>12133937
technically possible right now-they did tests on one in a full vacuum successfully many years ago,but it's finicky and hard to keep things at a good pressure in the groin.

>> No.12133944
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>>12133940
fuck you faggot, she's mine
go hook up with that fucking slut ELT or something bitch

>> No.12133948

>>12133942
combine it with an onahole at lower pressure so your dick literally gets sucked in. Spacesuits with visible flapping dong sections are the future.

>> No.12133950

>>12133937
Needs custom molded inserts for certain regions of your body.

>> No.12133956
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>>12133948
*ding*
>Brother, stop. I can only get so erect.

>> No.12133957

>>12133948
https://youtu.be/wlMwc1c0HRQ

>> No.12133958
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>>12133948
based

>> No.12133965

>>12133958
man this pic reminds me of the fact that power armor is actually juuuust barely viable now that 500 watthour batteries are on their way to commercialization. Someone needs to pull the trigger on that.

>> No.12133969
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>>12133965
*wh per kilogram

>> No.12133974

>>12133965
Been viable for a while, power wise. The controls need improvement to reduce lag and fine control.

>> No.12133978

Guys......rockets.....penis.....

>> No.12133992

>>12133978
Boys and their toys ;)

>> No.12133993
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>Hololive English starts
>they have a squid girl
>people on /jp/ posting Ika about her
REUSABLE TSTO METHALOX VTUBERS

>> No.12133999

Is 7.1 gonna go pop or fuckin what

>> No.12134005
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>>12133993
She is the /sfg/ approved starship mascot.

>> No.12134009

>>12133928
Kenny go home you're poor

>> No.12134015

how do astronauts deal with nose itches

>> No.12134016

>>12134015
They have little velcro pads inside their helmet to scratch their noses on.

>> No.12134017

>>12134015
Patch of velcro in the helmet

>> No.12134018

>>12134017
>>12134016
what if its in a spot the velcro doesnt reach

>> No.12134019

>>12133911
The N1 is my spirit animal.

>> No.12134024

>>12134018
then you suffer in silence

>> No.12134027

>>12134019
Fat, useless, full of toxic cancer, and falls apart under pressure?

>> No.12134028

>>12134027
hey thats me

>> No.12134031
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What are the chances sn8 nails its’ landing?

>> No.12134034
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>>12133879
>phoneposting
not even once

>> No.12134042
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>>12134005
absolutely

>> No.12134046

>>12134031
why are you posting pics from that autistic, moronic, Alaskan schizophrenic /k/ poster who is sexually aroused by lasers

>> No.12134049

im coomer bois

>> No.12134050
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>>12134046
I'm so happy I'm not the only one that recognizes these photos lmao

>> No.12134055

>>12133928
>1 atm suit
>flexible gloves
Don't astronauts already lose fingernails due to the force required to move gloves in their comparatively less-pressurized suits? I can only assume things would be even less pleasant with a higher pressure gradient.

>> No.12134061

>>12134055
Eww what the fuck? Like the friction slowly tears them off?

>> No.12134062

>>12134027
Yes exactly.

>> No.12134063

guys, im drunk but i want to chat in boca chica nsf chat but it says members only. i was goinna call them faggots lol

>> No.12134070

>>12134061
Something like that. I've heard astronauts describe trying to close a fist in a pressurized spacesuit as feeling akin to squeezing a solid rubber ball.

>> No.12134079

>>12134063
Would you be willing to pay someone to call them a faggot?

>> No.12134080

>>12134070
Yeah; if you read the apollo17.org notes the astros talk a lot about how they should have done substantially more grip training (and their fingernails lifted off)

>> No.12134081

>>12134070
A hard suit should alleviate that. Making it no different than being naked in the iss

>> No.12134083
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MANNED spaceflight

>> No.12134087

>>12134079
i was hoping somme member here could call them that since i cannot. but its ok, i hav mony but i would never give to nsf lool

>> No.12134088

>>12134046
I hope we’ll be using something like it in future space wars.

>> No.12134089
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WHEN IS THE POP

>> No.12134091

>>12134081
Won't make a difference when the gloves are still flexible.

>> No.12134093

>>12134081
If they went with the mechanically-hinged finger extensions (the kind found on deep sea diving suits), that would be true, but the suit in the original pic has soft gloves.

>> No.12134100

>>12134089
Pop cancelled due to aids

>> No.12134101

>>12134089
>billions of years in the future
>the sun has turned into a red giant
>Earth is swallowed into the star’s expanding surface
>SN-7 remains unpopped

>> No.12134104

>>12134101
>the sun becomes a black hole with a 4.4 meter radius contained inside SN7.1

>> No.12134107

>>12134100
haha i like tgis aids meme. i wonder if u can cathc aids on a trip to mars. maybe aids powered fusion drive

>> No.12134109

>>12134104
The sun isn't massive enough to form a black hole after collapse.

>> No.12134110

>>12134104
sn71 catxh aids hahahaaa

>> No.12134112

what is the most amount of people that have been in space simultaneously

>> No.12134114

>>12134112
7 billion
Earth is in space

>> No.12134115

>>12134112
Bend over and I'll show you

>> No.12134120

SR71 POP WHEN

>> No.12134124

>>12134112
during one of the shuttle handovers on the ISS there was... 14?
just looked it up, 13 crew on the ISS+shuttle at once

>> No.12134128
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>>12134109
You can make anything into a black hole if you try hard enough.

>> No.12134129

>>12134109
>the added mass of the nigh-indestructible fuel tank is enough to collapse the sun into a singularity

>> No.12134135

Rumor Spacex will use Crew Dragon to transfer crews to Starship until Starship had human rated for launch and landing.

>> No.12134141

>>12134135
Yeah makes sense desu.

POP WHEN!!!!!

>> No.12134144

>>12134135
Source? Definitely seems like a much safer option than flying on Shuttle II: No LES Boogaloo on launch and landing.

>> No.12134154
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>>12133993
i created this image and meme and won't stop until elon Itasha one of his starships

>> No.12134155

>>12134135
fake news, NASA is going to use Orion for that purpose (in NRHO for some reason lmao) and it's too expensive to use Dragon for anybody else

>> No.12134159
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>>12134154
agreed, Elon needs to put anime wraps on his vehicles

>> No.12134167

>>12134155
>in NRHO for some reason
The sole reason anything, including Gateway, is in NRHO is to justify the use of Orion+SLS for a mission NASA loudly claimed for years was the justification for SLS and not "we really just want a new big rocket because you kikes stiffed us by killing the Shuttle." Otherwise they could bolt it on to a Delta IV Heavy or Vulcan... or use Crew Dragon.

>> No.12134171

>>12134135
reasonable thing to do

>> No.12134174

>>12134155
>artemis gets cancelled
>SpaceX just fucking goes and does it anyways without a contract using Dragon II and Starship

>> No.12134177

>>12134167
the only people who got screwed by the cancellation of the shuttle was shuttle contractors and their congressmen

>> No.12134184

>>12134177
And NASA's entire astronaut corps, and the ISS, and ULA's Centaur-G program, and all our international partners, and anyone who wanted to do science in orbit...

>> No.12134191

PAD CLEARED AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.12134190

>>12134184
>ULA's Centaur-G
didn't that get cancelled after Challenger lmao

>> No.12134207

Happening: dent is gone

>> No.12134217

>>12134184
>Astronaut corps
I guess, but the gap didn't get fixed by SLS/Orion, it got fixed by SpaceX
>the ISS
it's been fine, and is going great now that CCP is up and running
>Centaur-G and G-Prime
cancelled after Challenger in the fucking 80's
>international partners
the ISS was fine without the Shuttle
>anyone who wanted to do science in orbit
it was honest-to-god cheaper to just launch your own satellite on Ariane or something to do the science
probably still is except the cheapest ride is Electron or Falcon 9 now

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omfg the NSF stream has emotes

>> No.12134236

>>12134174
I'm pretty sure that's why the Moonship contract exists at all.

>> No.12134237
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when's ol Musky going to put Cirno on a Super Heavy

>> No.12134243
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Fumo zero-g indicator

>> No.12134247

>>12134237
SN9

>> No.12134251

>>12134236
The Moonship will almost certainly do one autonomous landing before carrying crew, so if NASA doesn't take them up on the offer they're going to look really dumb.

>> No.12134254
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POP
WHEN

>> No.12134266

>>12134174
Hell charge a billion for a tourist to walk on the moon. There’s your funding right there.

>> No.12134277

>Friday
>SN8 is still nowhere near complete
Elon lied to us.

>> No.12134282 [DELETED] 

>>12134277
a little bird told me that sn8 will

>> No.12134283

>>12134277
>Elon was wrong about his timeline
>again
whoopdiedo, anon
also, Mary and NSF are holding out on the good photos right now

>> No.12134286

>>12134266
>Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, and Satya Nadella buy tickets
>they put "Jeff Who?" and "You must be at least this tall to win JEDI" signs on the moon
>all Bezos can do is seethe impotently until New Glenn is ready

>> No.12134292

>>12134236
For Spacex's own purposes, the Moonship would probably only exist for the number of missions needed to build a Starship landing pad.

>> No.12134294

>>12134277
He said "about a week" that means it could nearly two weeks.

>> No.12134301
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oh god oh fuck it's got wheels

>> No.12134302

How late do I need to stay up until the pop? they havent even started loading yet

>> No.12134308

>>12134301
Where do you think it's going?

>> No.12134309

>>12134301
>Caster Wheel Starship isn't real, it can't hurt you
AAAAAAAAAA

>> No.12134310

>>12134302
I work evenings and it's been nearly 5 am east coast time before they wrapped it up before

>> No.12134315

>>12134308
whereever it wants now, anon
you can't stop it
nobody can stop it

>> No.12134318

>>12134308
Downhill, with great and terrible speed

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>>12134112
>>12134124
We should be getting back to 13-14 people in space soon. Maybe around this time next year we might see 10-11 on the ISS (7 regular astronauts and 3-4 temporary commercial visitors), and 3 from a Chinese flight to their space station.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_International_Space_Station_expeditions#Future_expeditions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Axiom_Space-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_MS-20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenzhou_12#Future_missions

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>>12134277
soon

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>>12134342

>> No.12134354

Just poped!
Looked much more violent than last time

>> No.12134356
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>>12134309
>Caster Wheel Starship is extremely real, and it intends to hurt you as soon as possible
RUN

>> No.12134364

>>12134354
It's still standing here?

>> No.12134365

>>12134354
don't lie please
we'll see it completely frost over before it pops

>> No.12134369

>>12134365
>>12134364
I'm in the members only stream. Regular stream has 15 min delay

>> No.12134372

>>12134369
post some screenies, pay piggy

>> No.12134376

>>12134354
Yeah looks like weld failure again?

>> No.12134379

>>12134354
Why do you find it necessary to lie

>> No.12134386

>>12134369
The Lab stream is real-time, please just stop

>> No.12134387

>>12134379
>Not supporting NSF and watching the delayed stream
Begone, freeloader

>> No.12134391

NRO here, keyhole reports that the tank is still intact

>> No.12134393

>>12134386
Lab lost its feed they are just looping old video, check nightbot notification

>> No.12134395

>>12134391
is Christina Hendricks sunbathing?

>> No.12134396

>>12134395
no, it's nighttime dipshit

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>>12134393
Christ, it's tiresome dealing with people like you.
What is it? Do you just crave (you)s? Are you a personal associate of someone running the NSF stream and want to get them paid viewers? Something even sadder?

>> No.12134413

>>12134404
Just yous
Was studying pytorch for the last few hours so kinda bored right now

>> No.12134424

Will Harris be a good space president after biden steps down after a few months?

>> No.12134428

>>12134424
Trump will be reelected.

>> No.12134429

ooooh venting

>> No.12134433

>>12134428
I think the pandemic will sink him.

>> No.12134434

>>12134433
lmao no

>> No.12134435

pop is scrubbed

>> No.12134439

I should probably ask somewhere else on /sci/ but I find all of you guys relatable. Anyone have tips on how to start learning Python with next to zero knowledge of programming (aside from a matlab course in college)? Any youtube channels i could watch and do exercises with?

>> No.12134441
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>GSE leak
SN7.1 is fucking invincible

>> No.12134446
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it's cold now

>> No.12134450

>>12134424
Just to give you an idea about
>how bad things are
for the Democrats right now:
Trump doesn't feel the need to hold rallies in Florida right now
Bloomberg is dumping $100 million into PAC funding in Florida to help Biden (remember, $1 billion of spending only got him two electoral votes from American Samoa)
Minnesota, a state that hasn't gone Republican in basically forever is now being visited frequently by both camps
Biden is not spending in Georgia or Texas
Biden is under-performing across all critical minority groups in major urban areas in Florida, North Carolina, and the Blue Wall. Trump is over-performing considerably.

Finally, and most importantly: of the voters who favor a candidate, 92% of Trump's supporters are "very excited" to vote for him and only 60% of Biden's are "very excited" to vote for him. This is the largest spread in the history of recording this stat, and the other groups (somewhat excited, "meh", and not excited) can peel off almost at the drop of a hat. For example, if it's raining in a district "meh" and not excited just do not turn out to vote that year, along with a fraction of somewhat excited.

>> No.12134451

>>12134433
I would’ve agreed a month ago, but people seem to no longer give a shit now that jobs are coming back rather quickly. Trump’s behind, but beginning to regain parity with Biden in a number of swing states at the moment. It’s Biden’s race to lose, but the outcome is becoming much less predictable.

>> No.12134452

Wow, massive methane leaking on the ground, not looking good for spacex.

>> No.12134453

I JUST SAW BEZOS NEAR 7.1 WHAT IS HE DOING HE HAS SOMETHING IN HIS HANDS WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.12134457

>>12134452
lol vice will hear you anon

>> No.12134458

>>12134452
that's a liquid nitrogen leak, retard

>> No.12134459

>>12134452
They don't pressure test with methane, smoothbrain

>> No.12134460

>>12134452
Bait or uninformed. They don’t fill it with methane, they fill it with nitrogen when testing pressure. All that gas you see is nitrogen... which is what earth’s atmosphere is basically already made up of anyways

>> No.12134463

>>12134439
All the free resources are crap, and I particularly don't like learning something text based like a programming language from a video channel that might or might not have compression problems. I'm a big fan of No Starch Press for programming and Linux/Unix books, so I recommend this.

https://nostarch.com/pythoncrashcourse2e

>> No.12134465

>>12134450
>Trump doesn't feel the need to hold rallies in Florida right now
Yeah, who the hell let Biden talk about warming relations with Cuba on a talk show in fucking Miami? I’m genuinely astounded that there wasn’t a single person in the campaign that thought that might not be a great idea.

>> No.12134466

>>12134463
thanks

>> No.12134467

>>12134460
no, all the gas you see is water ice that's condensed out of the air and then froze

>> No.12134468

How many individual steps are there to build a rocket?

>> No.12134470

>>12134468
5

>> No.12134473

>>12134467
I don’t know enough about fluid dynamics and matter phases to know if this is wrong or not... Makes sense in my head tho

>> No.12134475

>>12134468
two
you build an engine and then you build a tank

>> No.12134476

>>12134439
What do you want to do with Python? It's easier if you have a focus in mind (ie gamedev) and then you can look up tutorials for that thing. Just learning a language for the sake of learning a language can be difficult because languages tend to be pretty broad and you need a starting point.

>> No.12134478

>>12134468
Somewhere between one and one million.

>> No.12134479

>>12134468
2

>> No.12134480

>>12134473
ice dust is possible with the temperatures of liquid nitrogen but it's probably water vapor
you occasionally see clouds of liquid nitrogen but that's only when they spill it

>> No.12134483
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What do we think of the Russian nuclear tug?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxEGiCiYKiA

>> No.12134484

>>12134476
Honestly I use Python to argue in /sfg/ sometimes. It beats the hell out of a calculator or excel for plugging values into a formula.

>> No.12134488
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What are they circling here??

>> No.12134491

>>12134488
peeing

>> No.12134492

>>12134476
I do a bunch of my research in excel, and it requires me writing some tricky “code” to get things to do what I want. It’s more for business people after all. I want the ability to be like, “take these three numbers and graph them on a ternary diagram”. Or, “count each point from this data set and turn it into an image, and divide it into these colors so I can look at chemical zoning”. If it helps, i’m a geologist and most of my data comes back as chemical fractions from an electron microscope and remote sensing satellites (I study the petrology of mars and compare them to chemical data of rocks here on earth but without clever programming we have to basically do small sample sizes of our data and i want the ability to write code to utilize all the data)

>> No.12134493

Bros I'm losing control of my life, I spent literally all my spare time in the last week watching vtubers, what have I missed at boca?

>> No.12134495

>>12134483
NTRs are always in every possible conception, based as fuck

>> No.12134498
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>>12134493
>watching vtubers
enjoy throwing your money away for your "waifu"

>> No.12134500

>>12134498
I don't pay them nigger

>> No.12134501
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I think this version is more realistic given the issues that CF was giving them, but I miss the ITS's sheer majestic bulk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA

>> No.12134506

>>12134483
godspeed,hopefully this inspires us to come back with something even better

>> No.12134507

>>12134501
ITS was absolute peak rocket kino in both design and name. Starship is entirely soulless compared to ITS.

>> No.12134509

>>12134318
This isn't Nikola

>> No.12134512

>>12134465
He's under-performing Hillary in South Florida by something like 18%. It's pretty brutal.

>> No.12134516

>>12134507
I wouldn't go that far-it's a pragmatic rocket, but it has a very art deco ethos to it, as opposed to the very neo-apollo energy of ITS.

>> No.12134517

>>12134507
I like Starship's stubby little flaps

>> No.12134518

Imagine running a senile old man about to kick the bucket who regularly sniffs and touches little girls on stage for president.

>> No.12134525

>>12134507
>Starship is entirely soulless compared to ITS
The hell are you talking about. Starship is pure 50s pulp raygun scifi, but real.

>> No.12134529

>>12134507
>Starship...soulless
I mean maybe when you directly compare the two, but starship has lots of soul. I think the main reason for the switch was that starship is more pragmatic. It’s WAY easier to test a 9m starship than a fuckhuge ITS. Starship allows Musk to still do more than any competitor, and gives him all the fundamental research to scale up to ITS once he gets a new engine and learns everything he needs to know from starship. Imagine if he was testing ITS at boca right now. The whole program would be like 3-5x the cost (and that’s being conservative).

>> No.12134530
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>>12134492
You'll want to look at the matplotlib library, then, as well as the math library. What you want is definitely doable, and Python can even import CSV files.

>>12134493
Squid a best.

>> No.12134540

>>12134529
I know I know, its much more realistic but its just so bland and lame looking in comparison.

>>12134530
Excellent taste

>> No.12134542

>>12134529
Yeah, carbon fiber is amazing stuff but even after decades of industrial optimization it's pretty expensive and has some thermal properties that don't go so well with aerospace. Steel is a great choice,esp for a reusable rocket.

>> No.12134543
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>dry mass of super heavy is 180000 kg
>dry mass of starship is 120000 kg
>difference is less than max starship payload
>you can get an entire superheavy into orbit by partially fueling it and launching it on top of another superheavy
>???
>profit
pls hire me

>> No.12134546

Starship better have an interior thats a mix of art deco and sleek modern

>> No.12134549

>>12134543
For what purpose? If you say the d word I will be required to summon the shelbyposter.

>> No.12134553

>>12134507
ITS was peak post Apollo Nova aesthetic, ridiculous, cool as fuck though, but fuck carbon composites
Starship is nearing peak 1950's retro sci-fi, and it lands the same way too, which is also pretty fucking cool
18m starship will be kino as fuck

>> No.12134554

LN2 LOADING THIS IS NOT A DRILL I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL

>> No.12134555
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what did she mean by this

>> No.12134556
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>>12134546
PIPES AND GRATES AND PIPES AND GRATES AND ONLY MOTION LIGHTING

>> No.12134557

>>12134512
Trump is a democratic plant. Biden will loose on purpose like Hillary. The 2022 election will be the death of the gop. Trump is impeached and slinks away out of public life for good. While facing no further legal troubles. Some groomed minority candidate wins the white house in 2024 by a huge margin. As president pence doesn't run and there isn't a decent human left willing to stick up for the gop.

Super majority democratic government stacks the courts to make trump appointments moot. If they cannot impeach them out. Lots of amendments to favor the democratic party. Russia suddenly back to being a non issue.

The dems have been playing a long game. The gop is too stupid to realize it. As they rebuilt themselves as an opposition party and have no interest in administration.

>> No.12134559

AEROSPACE GRADE
CARBON FIBER
SPACESHIPS

>> No.12134561

>>12134555
She fears we will abuse and persecute the mooninites

>> No.12134562

>>12134555
oy vey wont someone think of the poor lunar negroes having their soil exploited

>> No.12134565
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>>12134557
>Trump is impeached and slinks away out of public life for good
Cool story breh.

>> No.12134566

>>12134556
SOUL

>> No.12134568

>>12134555
Lol how old is that picture she's using as her pfp.

>> No.12134571

>>12134543
Why though. Inflatable habs exist. You can get more useful volume in space with three reusable Starship launches: two 50m inflatable habs and a tank of compressed air to fill them.

>> No.12134573

fucking pop the stupid can already i need to go to bed

>> No.12134574

I keep hoping someone announces a tethered rotating mars gravity station. It doesn't even have to be that big,just send a coupe people up for a few months and see what happens to them ffs

>> No.12134575
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>>12134562
No. We won that war fair and square.

>> No.12134577

>>12134549
>>12134571
>why?
because now you have a skyscraper sized wet workshop, do you need any other reason?

>> No.12134578

HYPERGOLIC
WET
WORKSHOPS

>> No.12134580

>>12134553
How big was ITS supposed to be, diameter wise? 9m is already huge. Throw a couple of inflatable habs on a current starship and you probably have more living space than all space stations ever launched, combined. 18m is going to be bonkers. You wouldn’t even need to prooooont or mill out housing on mars. Just land old 18m starships on mars as part of their last flight once they get old and use them as apartment complexes

>> No.12134582

>>12134577
Yeah, justifying the cost of throwing away 31 Raptor engines.

>> No.12134583

>>12134580
ITS was supposed to be 12m. 18m Starship will be completely ridiculous.

>> No.12134584

>>12134582
you could always unmount them on the moon and keep them as backups in a maintenance shop.

>> No.12134586
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POP WHEN

>> No.12134587

PRESSING TANK
ANY SECOND

>> No.12134588

>>12134578
China ssto crew launches, by pouring hypergolics directly onto uyghur astronauts.

>> No.12134590

>>12134582
QUICK DETACH THRUST PUCKS FOR INDUSTRIAL SCALE STATION BUILDING IN LEO

>> No.12134592

>>12134588
>Compressed Uyghur/H2O2 hybrid solid rocket motors

>> No.12134594

>>12134580
18m starship will be like, sci-fi levels of huge

>> No.12134597

>>12134592
>solid core NTR with liquified subchilled Uyghur propellant
>pressure fed

>> No.12134602

When an engine is given as “millions of dollars”, why exactly does it cost that much? Maybe for like the RS-25 or something i can see that; you’re trying to squeeze the gooberment for every penny. But when spacex builds their own why doesn’t it cost them just a couple of thousand?

I guess what i’m trying to ask is: why exactly does “these are complicated parts to make that require intricate machining” always translate to “okay that’s millions of dollars”? I understand that the process might be complicated yes- but pricey? God dammit does this question even make sense

>> No.12134605

>>12134602
making complicated things is expensive

>> No.12134607
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>it was a detanking the whole time

aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.12134609

>>12134607
you guys just got pranked

t. elon

>> No.12134612

>>12134605
But why does it cost elon so much when he’s making it himself, aside from the raw material cost? My only guess is that the actual machines used to make the engines are expensive?

>> No.12134615

Long Live SN7
Spacex Btfo

>> No.12134616

>>12134602
man hours, machine hours, materials, and research/development amortization

>> No.12134617

>>12134582
well this hypothetical partially fueled superheavy could well weigh less than a typical fully loaded starship, so you could get away with only flying with however many engines a starship has, and theres no real reason why you couldnt remove those in an eva and bring em back to earth on another starship

>> No.12134621

>>12134602
Rocket engines have crazy tight tolerances and the metallurgy is high level wizardry. That gets even more complicated for repeated throttle up/down and relight technology, let alone the durability to be reusable without major refurbishment. Raptor is CRAZY cheap for what it is. Aerojew Shekeldyne is charging $165 million PER INDIVIDUAL ENGINE for new RS-25s that will be dropped into the ocean after ONE flight.

>> No.12134623

>>12134616
Oh that makes way more sense. Duh. Thank you. I hope raptor can get as low as possible in price while still being safe and reliable

>> No.12134624

>>12134617
At that point just use an empty Starship since you'll also want a nose cone.

>> No.12134627

>>12134621
>Aerojew Shekeldyne
Bwahahah. Yeah, one engine costs more than the expected launch price of a whole starship. Cost plus contracting can kiss my ass and i’m glad Big Jim told it to fuck off for the artemis landers

>> No.12134628

>>12134624
you could do that, but putting a nosecone on a superheavy will be a trivial task, and bigger is always better

>> No.12134633

Yeah just defund SpaceX already they can't do shit at all

>> No.12134638

>>12134633
Meanwhile NASA succesfuly ground fires a rocket that they've been using for 30 years already.

>> No.12134642

>>12134628
Okay but even without any wet workshopping just a Starship has more habitable volume than the ISS. Starship with the outer tanks wet workshopped (maintaining the header tanks for station keeping) would be literally stadium sized volume. Scaling up to a Superheavy wet workshop seems a little overkill.

>> No.12134647

>>12134642
like i said, bigger is better

>> No.12134648

>>12134647
why do they make mary stand at night? Can't just operate the camera remotely?

>> No.12134652

>>12134648
guten frsswfvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

>> No.12134655

>>12134621
I don't think people fully understand how insane the conditions inside of these things are,with the hot oxygen and the insane temperature gradients. The fact that the nozzle doesn't just immediately melt as it belches out ultra hot exhaust is the result of an incredibly complex and refined system of piping that runs fuel at crazy high pressure through the structure. The fuel oxygen mixhas to be managed super carefully so as not to flood the engine out and make it a very expensive squirt gun. Making something like that and then going on to make it reusable is the work of warlocks.

>> No.12134667

nice commentary on nasa space flaight

>> No.12134669

Mary hasn't sold of yet.
Nomadd has sold

>> No.12134671

>>12133775
>"Blue Origin is a super-rich girl, and then there is this poor girl over here, Aerojet Rocketdyne. But we have to continue to go to planned rehearsal dinners, buy cakes, and all the rest with both."
And that, is why Blue Origin gets picked. Just like Brett Tobey said and subsequently got fired for.

>> No.12134676

>>12134655
Orion battleships with chemical SSTO spaceplane landing craft when?

>> No.12134677

>>12134669
Nomadd sold a long time ago
they just recently decided to have him leave, and gave him 30 days notice

>> No.12134682

So how does this supposed photon loop EMdrive wizardry work? What's the geometry involved? Fucking around with fiber optics and jigs in my garage seems within my skill set, unlike precision machining copper.

>> No.12134695

>>12134655
What is the best advance for rocket engines since apollo, in terms of material design and metallurgy? Like what exactly is the chamber made of? Some super wizard metal?

>> No.12134703

>>12134695
yeah, super wizard nickel/chromium superalloy or whatever, I don't know, it's proprietary
also, SpaceX are super wizards at CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) modelling of rocket engines, which is another big breakthrough
and milled channel-wall cooling is much cheaper to make than brazed tube cooling

>> No.12134705
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>>12134682
It needs to be narrower at the front, wider at the back. You get higher total power by using wider fiber, and more loops of fiber gets you more efficiency per watt of input. The Spanish team used 2000 loops. Here's a picture.

>>12134695
Raptor unironically. It's the only full flow staged combustion engine to ever fly, and methalox to boot.

>> No.12134710

>>12134705
Clarification: you get more total power with more laser watts. The wider fiber gives you more material to absorb the heat. McCulloch has been working on this problem recently.

>> No.12134712

>>12134705
Are the loops the red fiber around the outside? That's all you need to do, wrap fiber optic cable around a fat airfoil shape 2000 times and shine a laser in?

It can't be this easy. There's no way this works.

>> No.12134715

>>12134695
Inconel

>> No.12134720

>>12134703
>>12134705
>>12134715
Is there even a hypothetical solid out there that could reach like 100000000°C or whatever before melting (obv i’m exaggerating that number but i hope you guys get the point). It annoys me that we haven’t found a solid that, for all intents and purposes, just doesn’t melt unless you threw it into the sun or something.

>> No.12134724

>>12134720
Diamond?

>> No.12134731

>>12134724
diamond burns really really early, and if there's no oxygen it just turns back into graphite at some point not much later than the ignition temperature
tungsten can get pretty hot but it has shitballs mechanical properties

>> No.12134733
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Here is your "Chinese FH"

https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1306871334350315520

>> No.12134737

>>12134712
Yes, the loops are the red fiber. From my discussions with Mike on social media it's capable of ~0.7N/kW... but good luck shoving even a hundred watts of laser through that setup, much less a kilowatt.

>It can't be this easy. There's no way this works.
Rockets are retard simple in principle. Scaling them up to useful power levels while keeping them light enough to fly is the challenge. Same thing applies here.

>>12134720
Some types of Hafnium Carbide have a melting point of ~3900K. IIRC that's the current winner.

>> No.12134739
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>>12134733

>> No.12134745

>>12134705
Wait, there is a confirmed reactionless drive and I'm only just finding out about it?

>> No.12134750

>>12134745
Don't disturb them, leave the /x/ people alone

>> No.12134754

>>12134745
Allegedly two teams with two drive setups (one photon loop, one microwave emdrive) independently confirmed thrust in line with quantized inertia predictions in the past month. Papers have not been submitted for review yet, so all we have to go on is leaks on social media.

>> No.12134760

>>12134750
If the photon loop meme actually works isn't that kind of huge? That eliminates magnetic field interference as a source of error

>> No.12134781

>>12134760
Yes it is, which is why /sfg/ has been following it. Even at current drive efficiency that can replace ion drives if you scale them up. At ~1N/kW you can replace solid core NTR. At ~6N/kW it replaces plasma magnet sails, with none of the drawbacks of a sail.

And yes, this is still pending peer review, but I'm cautiously optimistic. One of the guys who confirmed thrust is Tajmar, and he's been shitting on emdrives for about a decade trying to prove they don't work.

>> No.12134783

>>12134733
>Now they can drop 3 boosters responsibly on small towns at once.
Is it at least hypergolic?

>> No.12134786

>>12134783
Probably. If they got cryogenic fuels working, /sfg/ would be flooded with chinklish posts bragging about it.

>> No.12134787

>>12134781
what efficiency is required for brachistone memes and thrust gravity

I want my Rocinante and I want it now

>> No.12134791

>>12134786
It's probably keralox, they've had that tech for a while. I can't see how you could go wrong just copying the Merlin, it's a dead simple engine by design.

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>>12134791
>I can't see how you could go wrong just copying the Merlin
Let me tell you about Chinese steel, anon.

>> No.12134800

>>12134791
Yeah, I'm guessing kerolox too. It's probably YF-100 or YF-115.

>> No.12134803

>>12134796
While that pic is wholely accurate, that's just your typical chinkoids ripping off stupid baizuo, the CCP knows where to get quality stuff for critical projects and it will be delivered to spec because factory operators will be under penalty of death for falsifying that shit.

>> No.12134806

>>12134803
Baizuo is the wrong term in this context. Gweilo would be a better term.

>> No.12134807

>>12134787
Honestly even 6N/kW gets you to Neptune in under a year, which is pretty close to Expanse stated travel times if not acceleration levels. For >1g thrust and Earth lift, that depends strongly on how light you can make the power plant. Fusion is the magic word here.

>> No.12134809

>>12134806
There's probably significant overlap these days - no one but a dumb baizuo is starting a new business venture in China.

>> No.12134815

>>12134809
Baizuo are the dumb fucks out to save the world from the confines of their computer, they don't do business. They do animal cruelty free söy latte cooperative commune coffee shops, not international steel trading.
The only ones doing business with China do so for one reason and one reason alone, greed.

>> No.12134819
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jesus

>> No.12134826

>>12134819
Yeah Starlink is basically a license to print money.

>> No.12134829

>>12134815
Baizuo is sjw.

>> No.12134831

>>12134829
No shit and since when did they do international steel trading?

>> No.12134832

>>12134815
Jeff Bezos is a huge baizuo.

>> No.12134833

>>12134803
That's because the government are the biggest crooks in the game.

>> No.12134836

>>12134832
Astra and Blue Origin support BLM.

>> No.12134838
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>>12134832
No he isn't. He gives a little bit of money so the cunts leave him alone. Just like J.P. Morgan Chase gives a little bit of money to pride parades and whatnot in the wake of OWS so nobody gives a shit that they all tuck their money away in tax paradises instead of letting it get taxed in the US.

But now we're seriously derailing here.

>>12134836
pic related.

>> No.12134847

>>12134838
You know outside of social media they do mandatory ideological trainings like in USSR?

>> No.12134849

>>12134847
Yeah and I know it just got some serious blowback. I know exactly how it happened too, it's nothing but an extension of the long march through the institutions, in this case the long march through human resources.

>> No.12134858

>>12134849
Did somebody say Rong March?

>> No.12134859

>>12134858
Wrong March off the cliff.

>> No.12134863

>>12134847
>>12134849
have you frens seen that sandia labs ee's presentation on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyNW9nlFDBk

>> No.12134866

>>12134863
No I haven't, but I know it was enough to cause said blowback. But I already knew what this bullshit entailed, so why the fuck would I have to put myself through this shit?

>> No.12134912
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SN7.1 stronk

>> No.12134929
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>>12134580

>> No.12134931

>>12134912
SN will probably crumple under its own weight.

>> No.12134934

>>12134931
9 even. God damn unicode denying board software.

>> No.12134988

SN7.1 indestructible lmao

>> No.12135016

How do different types of radiation compare in hazardousness for unshielded exposure from a source outside the body?
Like, is beta radiation worse than gamma radiation? What about positrons or protons?
Also does neutron radiation even exist in space?

>> No.12135024
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dear moon update is coming
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFQgF_snNZw/

>> No.12135064

>>12135016
Alpga beta decay are harmless unless naked or you get it inside you.

>> No.12135128

>>12134807
Don’t the meme drive basically breaks law of conversation of energy?

>> No.12135134

>>12135128
No, it breaks momentum. This thing also shatters QFT into pieces, if it was actually real, they'd have a nobel prize by now.

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POP WHEN?

>> No.12135139

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptPdlVAwFg
/sfg/ thread without having this classic quote in it? Heresy

>> No.12135146

>>12135134
Don’t breaking momentum allows one to break conservation of energy as well?

>> No.12135212

>>12135146
Yeah, at some point you're getting more kinetic energy than you're putting in with a reactionless drive.

>> No.12135221

>>12135146
Yes, you could put two of them on the ends of a bar, attach the bar to a drive shaft, attach the shaft to a generator, and then power them on. Assuming they are sealed in a vacuum where air resistance isn't a problem they could theoretically continue accelerating until they're generating more energy than they consume.
If they do turn out to work though, I'd assume that they aren't "breaking" anything, but that it would be a sign there are still major deficits in humanity's understanding of physics.

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>>12134498
What is a vtuber?

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>>12134556
This, it has to look like a submarine carrying bulks of faulty crt's

>> No.12135247

>>12135232
Streamers who use software to sync their motions and expressions up to a 3D model, usually an anime girl. There's been an explosion of them recently since some big companies started curating them.

>> No.12135248

>>12135232
people who pretend the are anime girls to sucker money out of simps

>> No.12135271
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>>12135247
>>12135248
Gee that sounds terrible I only found out earlier this week what simps are. We are steering for desperate times.

>> No.12135300
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>>12133798
>not using the superior design

>> No.12135304

>>12135271
I seriously hope Elon gets our asses out of here before earth goes full Weimar.

>> No.12135306

>>12134621
They said that they MIGHT get the price into that. Now they cost over 200 million and take fucklong to make.

>> No.12135312

How many times do they need to go "haha pressure meter go brrrr" before they finally pop this soda can?

>> No.12135325
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12135325

BROS I am currently in a zoom meeting with my old advisor concerning our instruments on the Mars 2020 mission. We have some visitors from the Chinese space agency and we have a set of rules in the chat about what we are and aren't allowed to talk about because of ITAR. This is weird...

>> No.12135340

>>12135325
They let these guys go to space with a beard?

>> No.12135361

>>12135340
Some men have test levels high enough to grow this on the mission, anon. Do you expect them to shave mid-flight and spread hair flecks everywhere?
>tfw "the right stuff" REQUIRES that you have the ability to grow respectable stubble within 3 days minimum

>> No.12135374

>>12135361
My stubble grows in damn near immediately but it takes months to grow past that.
In any case, I wasn't sure when the photo was taken. Although, now you've piqued my interest. Shaving in space, how do they do it? It probably didn't matter much on week long trips to the moon but month+ long on the ISS?

>> No.12135381
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>>12135271
It's a clowny clown world.

>> No.12135387
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>>12135340
>>12135361
The true chads go up with a stache.

>> No.12135388
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>>12135325
>schmitt doesn't think global warming is real
big yikes

>> No.12135391

>>12134929
Where's the 110m version?

>> No.12135404

>>12135374
With vaccum cleaner.

>> No.12135413
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>>12134556
Any design looks better than 3D printed buttplug post-modern minimalism.

>> No.12135418

>>12135361
>>12135374
>>12135404

Chris CHADfield explains it in brief:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai8N3SYjup8

>> No.12135419

https://twitter.com/WevolverApp/status/1306946421120212992

>> No.12135432
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>>12135419
Those blow torches look familiar.

>> No.12135435

>>12135388
I think his position is more “people who don’t know what they are talking about are blowing it out of proportion”. He left the planetary society due to disagreements with the virgin Bill Nye. He stated his reasoning as Bill was trying to push a scare tactic agenda on the Earth burning in order to get more money from the general public. But yeah he is a political-astronaut. Big conservative, to the point where he might deny climate change overall to keep his friends happy. I don’t know enough about him personally (I would really love to talk to him about this though, especially before he croaks of old age :(

>> No.12135439

Is it okay if i simp for NASAspaceflight because i just donated 50 currency units?

>> No.12135440
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>>12135413
Honestly I don't think the buttplug looks too bad with more windows. But more windows would be kind of an issue on Mars.

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>>12135418
Thanks for the link.

>> No.12135444

>>12134612
Lots of machining expensive metals spread across a production run that's so far still about the same size as the production run of hyper-rare exotic cars like the Bugatti EB110 or the Pagani Zonda.

Once mass production starts I'll bet we see the cost per engine drop down to $1m a piece which is competitive with small turboprops like the PT-6 or turbofans like the Garretts and Williams ones in small business jets, and that's incredibly fucking impressive.

>> No.12135451
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>>12135435
Oh, in that case I kinda agree with him
Climate change is a serious problem that needs to be addressed but people need to stop fucking acting like the sky is falling.
> (I would really love to talk to him about this though, especially before he croaks of old age :(
Ah, you're the guy who talked about him last time. The geologist, right? Who wants to meet him?
Have any successes yet? I know covid is messing things up but surely he must be doing some presentation somewhere, right?

>> No.12135461

>>12135439
Nah that’s understandable. They are awkward people but we watch their stuff religiously whenever they are doing testing down in boca
>>12135444
Checked and thank you for your response
>>12135451
Yes that’s me lmao. No luck yet unfortunately. He has no social media presence and doesn’t seem to use any of his contact emails anymore. I will keep trying though. He is definitely /ourguy/

>> No.12135471

>>12135413
>>12135440
Those designs would probably look a lot different as functional habitats. You'd want to stack as much regolith around them as possible for shielding, so they would look like something more akin to termite mounds I'd bet.

>> No.12135476
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Todays NSF stream got fucked by climate change arguments and it became a member only stream.

>> No.12135482

>>12134858
[chinese villagers covering in fear]

>> No.12135484

>>12135476
i mean member only chat

>> No.12135485

>>12135413
>I'M GONNA EXTROOOOOD!

>> No.12135488

>>12132992
another storm in the middle of the atlantic just got named wilfred, so the boca hurricane is probably gonna be alpha

>> No.12135490

>>12135482
i need long march-chan hentai or i will drink NTO

>> No.12135508

>>12135490
Needs to be a Chun-Li looking futanari that pees UDMH on people

>> No.12135524

>>12135508
Cute!

>> No.12135529

>>12135508
you said Chun-Li but my mind pictured Chumlee
cannot be unseen

>> No.12135537

>>12135508
fuck, project rocket girls need to step up their content and make this shit.

>> No.12135542

>>12135451
>Climate change is a serious problem that needs to be addressed but people need to stop fucking acting like the sky is falling.

Climate change is real, we're almost certainly exacerbating it,but I don't understand what people actually expect to be able to do in order to curb, say, 10 feet of sea level rise in the next 250 years when the sea level already rose >500 feet over the past 10,000 years without any input from us whatsoever.

I mean, it sucks that Greenland is thawing and what little il left of the glaciers in Alaska are thawing, but come on now, within the past 20,000 years we had miles of Antarctica-style ice pack extending as far down as New Jersey, and the northern hemisphere glaciation today is barely 5% of what once was, meaning that we've already lost 95% of it thanks simply to natural climate cycles.

That said, I'm all for conservation and we need to stop littering and polluting, not because doing so will stop climate change, but because we're better than the fucking chinsects, street shutters, spear chuckers, or favela monkeys.

>> No.12135545

>>12135542
We also need to start building Pickering or Bruce-tier nuclear power stations everywhere, using CANDU or AGR descendant reactor architecture, and stop burning coal for power like we're in a fucking Charles Dickens novel.

>> No.12135564

>>12135542
Way she goes. The Earth is a dynamic planet and has seen times where it has been quite frozen, and other times when it is quite temperate (I'm specifically thinking of the PETM when there was almost zero ice on the surface. Think about Antarctia having tropical conditions, that's how hot it got). Pumping CO2 into the atmosphere is certainly not helping - and transitioning to Nuclear would really help (be it Thorium or Fusion if we are lucky). But when you have politicians yelling about "we only have 12 years left" it does not help the cause and only digs opposing people further in to the point where they will outright deny ALL climate change data. Just food for thought.

>> No.12135565

lads, does anyone remember that anon who was talking about some mysterious spacex ocean vessel in the works a while back? did anyone ever figure that out? i cant remember if he was talking as an insider or not, but could that be a starship ocean droneship?

he was saying "i'm surprised nobody's found it yet"

>> No.12135577
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>>12135529
kek

>> No.12135604

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5l9ZxsG9M
Stormy

>> No.12135608

>>12134819
What's this?

>> No.12135611

>>12135608
Satellite internet

>> No.12135614

>>12135542
The part we as a species need to focus on is just local pollution. The goal should be to cut out smog and other hazardous pollutants, and in general maximize the efficiency of our industrial and chemical processes to eliminate as much wastefulness as possible. The same goes for the energy industry, ironically coal at least in the west is already doing that, they've been devising ever more complicated systems of filters and postburners to rip every last bit of energy out of that coal as is humanly possible, resulting in an overall reduction of emissions.

>> No.12135621

>>12135564
>But when you have politicians yelling about "we only have 12 years left" it does not help the cause and only digs opposing people further in to the point where they will outright deny ALL climate change data. Just food for thought.

I mean it's transparently obvious that politicians and "green economy" shysters are using climate change hysteria to dupe well-intentioned idiots and line their own pockets.

>> No.12135624

>>12135461
>Yes that’s me lmao. No luck yet unfortunately. He has no social media presence and doesn’t seem to use any of his contact emails anymore. I will keep trying though. He is definitely /ourguy/
He's unlikely to respond to just you.
You have to try to invite him to something. A guest of honor type thing.

>> No.12135634

Are the 12m/18m Starships real plans/hopes from Elon or just "holy shit imagine how awesome that would be" sort of things?
Also what are the advantages of inflatable habitats in space? Seems like they'd be way too vulnerable to the elements.

>> No.12135644

>>12135634
He said 18m is possible in twitter.

>> No.12135647

>>12135634
no idea, but my guess is it's hopes and dreams. they probably haven't done anything on it other than the sketch and are going to wait until starship is flying, proven, and actually doing the quantity of business they want before they even look at it again

>> No.12135650

>>12135634
>Are the 12m/18m Starships real plans/hopes from Elon or just "holy shit imagine how awesome that would be" sort of things?
Just holy shit imagine how awesome that would be. No point in seriously thinking about a supersized version of your rocket before the original rocket is even done, that's SLS think.
>Also what are the advantages of inflatable habitats in space?
It's a neat way to get around volume limitations. The inflatables themselves are made from kevlar so they're tough enough.

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>>12135614
>The same goes for the energy industry, ironically coal at least in the west is already doing that, they've been devising ever more complicated systems of filters and postburners to rip every last bit of energy out of that coal as is humanly possible, resulting in an overall reduction of emissions.

Yeah, I know modern coal and gas-fired combined cycle power plants are getting frighteningly efficient, but they'll never be as a e s h e t i c as nuclear.

>> No.12135656
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoqv0PAAT8

bros... fuck the Roche limit, fuck the laws of planetary motion, fuck fuck fuck

>> No.12135689

>>12135656
what does saturn look like from enceladus?

>> No.12135692

commercialization" of the space industry is just a meme by the DOD and NASA to justify their spending , change my mind

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>>12135634
The 12/18m Starships are necessary for Mars colonization at the scale that Elon in hoping for, and iirc with the switch to stainless they should be relatively simple to build since they're just the regular old Starship, but thicc.

>> No.12135706

>>12134819
How much is starlink gonna cost

>> No.12135712

>>12135706
My guess is twice the going rate for terrestrial broadband

>> No.12135729
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>>12135304
Yea the shitter surely is clogged.
I read somewhere borderline credible that we are like 7 months beyond the point of no return for the climate change. That is not even counting the time we'd need for global society to become somewhat sustainable from half a year ago.

>> No.12135730
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>>12135689
Probably something real fucken kino like pic related

>> No.12135735

>>12135621
...yup lmao. It’s unfortunate. As I said earlier i’m pretty sure this is the main reason geologist astronaut hero Jack Schmitt left the planetary society. He didn’t want to be a part of an organization lead by Bill “the shill” Nye who was just selling out to alarmist politics of
>muh Earth is under siege by le carbon
Like it’s a big deal but it gets blown out of proportion for political gain

>> No.12135742

Vega C is the future

>> No.12135753
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As far as sky kino goes we really got the short end of the stick, it's not fair...

>> No.12135761
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>>12135388
Realtalk, the F4 Corsair is actually a really ugly plane that by coincidence has like the most iconic wing ever. But everything else is quiet disproportioned and un-aesthetic if you get her out of that one specific angle that hides it all.

>> No.12135783

>>12135735
>>muh Earth is under siege by le carbon
>Like it’s a big deal but it gets blown out of proportion for political gain

I'm honestly for more worried about non-white overpopulation than I am about climate change, and if you're paying attention to the data then you should be, too.

>> No.12135790

>>12135761
>really ugly plane
No it's not.
Looks like a typical WWII era plane, save for the gull wings.

>> No.12135820
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>>12135790
It looks like a workhorse. A capable, but very disformed workhorse. Not even dragging out the obligatory Spitfire or Catalina PBY but just compare it to a Wildcats tail section and other details.
The Corsair is almost as ugly as a Blackburn rock.

>> No.12135828
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>>12135820
Mariner > Catalina

>> No.12135836
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>>12135820
PBY Cataline is a CUTE. I love the idea of being able to sleep on a big boat and then take her to the skies for battle. Also the dauntless is beautiful. It is simple, has those cool red aerodynamic flaps for dive bombing, and looks like a natural progression from wood airplanes from WW1 to metal airplanes of WW2. But I have to say, the german planes were the most interesting looking. The bf109's have pure intimidation factor

>> No.12135850

>>12135488
>another storm in the middle of the atlantic just got named wilfred, so the boca hurricane is probably gonna be alpha
too late, one just claimed alpha, maybe the one about to hit boca chica will be named beta
https://twitter.com/NHC_Atlantic/status/1306992408911994880

>> No.12135852

>>12134468
1. Lobby government.
2. Negotiate cost-plus contract.
3. ?
4. Profit.

>> No.12135860

>>12135850
another storm was already names alpha, the boca storm is still a depression so it might be Beta

>> No.12135862
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watch your ass europe

>> No.12135869

>>12135860
named*
It's a subtropical storm in the Atlantic, which is lame as fuck, but it's formed close to Iberia

>> No.12135871

>>12135862
Storms in Europe is not quite the same as the shit you get across the pond or the ones in Asia. It can still get a bit nautical in some coastal areas though.

>> No.12135873

>>12135862
Oh no! Not the Portuguese launch sites!

>> No.12135880
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>tfw there's 2 months left in the hurricane season
>tfw this season has been a busy nothingburger
REEEE I WANT CAT 5 STORMS

>> No.12135889

>>12135753
the tidal forces and radiation and shit from being that close to Saturn would suck though

>> No.12135909

>>12135889
Tidal forces are good because they increase volcanism

>> No.12135943
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>the absolute state of spaceflight

>> No.12135948

>>12135943

Ok what is wrong this time?

>> No.12135952

>>12135909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZAJJXK41ZA

>> No.12135953
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>>12135828
Bigger, more powerful and newer, nowhere near as beautiful.

>> No.12135966
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>>12135836
I sure love the airbrakes. In this conversation I noticed how similar they are to Corsairs in some key areas. But hte cockpit and vertical stabilizer tie it up so much better... also THESE DIVEBRAKES!

>> No.12135968

>>12134101
>SLS gets a seat installed

>> No.12135978

>>12135783
>I'm honestly for more worried about non-white overpopulation
People saying this usually end up killing the most white people

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>>12135968
They already canceled again for being too expensive, The seat would have cost another 400 million to fully bolt down, removing it again only cost 350 million.

>> No.12135987

>>12135978
Jews aren't white.

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>>12135987

>> No.12136011

B-29 > Catalina > Hellcat > everything else > jap "engineering"

>> No.12136018

>>12135985

But what if you only partialy bolt it down? Expendable seats if you will.

>> No.12136035

>>12135413
I looked into these, and they could work in areas where the atmosphere is thick enough to gentle down the CR levels. The water skylight idea is genius-uv resistant plastic and water are both great at blocking rads.

>> No.12136038

>>12135476
Did vice prompt this?

>> No.12136046

>>12136018
That would only need a bit of testing setting us back for like 8 years tops. Let's pitch it!

>> No.12136047

>>12134705
I think that it may be that dark matter and quantized inertia exist, they just have similar effects and accordingly it confused everyone.

>> No.12136058

next (attempt at) pop when?

>> No.12136060

>>12135271
Simps and gacha whales are proof that business psychology has become advanced enough to regulate the use of it.

>> No.12136069

Maybe they are doing fatigue testing on SN 7.1. I noticed they went away from the square tank access hatches to circular ones after SN 6 (a la the De Havilland Comet). If thats the case you all might have a bad case of blue balls for a while.

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>>12136060
Okay what are gacha wh... nevermind I just looked it u... on second thought, fuck nevermind. What the hell are gachawhales??? I'm more confused than I was prior to binging it!

>> No.12136135

>>12136122
gacha whales are people who give lots of money to digital slot machines in order to roll for pictures of anime girls
which is very strange, when it's easier to just rip the images...

>> No.12136140

>>12136122
Gacha games are basically slot machines where you pull the lever to collect random waifus and husbandos (and powerups for them) of varying rarities, and some shallow gameplay to grind materials and use your waifus in battle. Some even have auto-battle mode because the combat is so removed from the real point of the game. You get a certain number of pulls from free play, but to collect all the really rare ones you need to pay real money for extra tokens. Whales are the retards who keep these games afloat by paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to unlock their waifu (or husbando) in a phone game.

>> No.12136152

>>12136069
Square hatches on SN1-6 were just welded shut after they were done with internals since those were limited use test articles. Circular hatches are actual doors that can be opened for cleaning & inspection and imply they're expecting a lot more reuse from now on (not in case with SN7.1 as its destiny is to pop eventually, but still). They have those on F9, and on hoppy as well.

>> No.12136154

>>12136011
>B29
Excellent taste

>> No.12136159
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>>12136135
>>12136140
I hate it that skinner boxes have become so relevant to our society, that we have words for not only them, but everything surrounding them.
This is some dystopic sci fi shit.

Thanks for enlightening me.

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>>12136154
I can live with that. They are beautiful in the same sense that Mil Helicopters and the millennium falcon are beautiful.

>> No.12136178

>>12136159
>web service providers kick off alt right groups and act like heroes
>blithely allow this wickedness to ruin lives

Im not altright, i think they are retards, but this is so hypocritical

>> No.12136203

>>12135862
nigga we classify winds over 30m/s as major storms

>> No.12136206

>>12136178
Wait until you figure out who's behind it all.

>> No.12136221

>>12136135
>>12136140
>>12136159


It makes me happy when these games get shut down and the whales start to cry about money lost.

>> No.12136224
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>>12136178
Plus the fact that they dictate political landscapes by selective censorship. I'm not political at all exactly because of this. It's not even just the reporter bringing a highly biased story to print, now the printer only prints parts of it.

Nowadays I've stopped watching tv and reading news in fear of becoming a misinformed tool for some thinktank.
It's a good way to get hooked on history because it ultimately doesn't matter who's side you're on.

Now excuse me I have to fix my tinfoil hat.

>> No.12136238
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>>12136221
Sir would you elaborate on how one may partake in this endeavour? It sounds highly entertaining and I'd shirley fancy a schadenfreudedab, or two.

>> No.12136249
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>>12136122

>> No.12136293

>>12136238
If you're in the US, call your Congressman, your Senators, and the White House. Complain about Chinese gaming companies siphoning millions of dollars out of the United States through legalized gambling, many of those dollars coming from innocent underaged children. Really play up the moral outrage bit. Most of the top-grossing gacha games are Chinese, so there will be limitless salt mining available.

>> No.12136306

>>12133708
Is this the one with a detachable rover?

>> No.12136326

>>12134929
>never talk to me or my son or my dad again

>> No.12136333

Why did the retards at NASA (and ESA/Roscosmos kinda) chase efficiency/per KG versus dollar/per KG?

>> No.12136338

>>12136333
Probably because they were thinking of spacecrafts as vehicles instead of civilization's economic assets. This is what happens when your job is to build a spacecraft instead of build humanity's fleet.

>> No.12136339
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12136339

>>12136293
No I'm not from the US. I don't wanna fix the world, I just want to laugh at gamblers.

>> No.12136344

>>12136333
The Shuttle's design constraints were so retarded that there was no possible way to make it cheap, and the Saturn V got cancelled. That meant nobody in the West has had 100+t super heavy lift rockets since the 1970s, and nobody even had 50+t rockets until Falcon Heavy, so people got autistic about shaving grams. Starship will enable more cost-optimized space payloads.

>> No.12136352

>>12136333
Nationalized industry is garbage. The invisible hand is what guides humanity to greatness.

>> No.12136356

https://cntechpost.com/2020/09/18/china-plans-flight-based-space-transportation-in-2045-with-one-hour-access-to-the-globe/

Gross. They really have no shame.

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>>12136344
>there was no possible way to make it cheap
If they could only have known...

>> No.12136384

>>12136356
>In 2045
Why not 2100?

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>>12136384
Because of all the rapid, unscheduled decompression of pressure vessels they scheduled in and the unplanned, rapid deconstruction of living spaces around the launch complexes they planned in. At some time they will also have to take a break for them to replenish until they go extinct from overstaging.

>> No.12136407

I'm putting my small satellite on a rocket soon™, it's on ELaNa XX. I can't say the date, but if they let me take pictures I'll post them here.

>> No.12136426

>>12136407
Neat. Transmit a meme with it.

>> No.12136431

>>12136333
Necessity at first due to crappy engines and technologies and little knowledge that later turned into a sort of a norm that would get you a stink eye just for trying to stray from it. You can still sometimes see people screech how falcon 9 loses a lot of payload capacity due to reusability. Why the fuck does it matter if it's still enough for most existing payloads and it blows literally everything else in price per kg while at that? Fuel is cheap. Can't lift enough into orbit? Just make a bigger rocket lmao

>> No.12136440

>>12136431
Also that's literally why the Heavy exists, and has twice the payload to LEO of any other rocket flying. Starship will make these people look so dumb.

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>>12136407
Is your "small satellite" an explosive payload made from farming supplies
and the "rocket soon™" a loose and scaled interpretation of SCUD missile plans you found on the interwebs, anon?
And where did you point it?

>> No.12136449

>>12136431
the lost deltaV argument makes no sense at all when you look at the price, and performance of a f9
It's like a 90-70 million dollars cheaper than the Atlas V, and can launch more shit into space even with lost deltaV
Is f9 performed worse than other rockets, those arguments would make sense, but it outperforms them even with reuse

>> No.12136451

>>12136449
70-50 million* My bad lmao

>> No.12136458

>>12136407
>Launcher one
RIP your payload. Also we're on page 10, lads.

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>>12136458
yay new thread

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