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[Anonymous No.12100725]

Ave Mars edition

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[Anonymous No.12100740]

fuck urf

[Anonymous No.12100754]

I heard it was spacenoid time so I came as fast as I could

[Anonymous No.12100773]

[Anonymous No.12100774]

I love SLS!

[Anonymous No.12100789]

>>12100774

[Anonymous No.12100796]

>>12100725
I started playing around with flags because of this post and somehow ended up with a flag for a fictional African nation.

[Anonymous No.12100806]

>>12100789
>Oh god oh fuck he has a gun
The idea of a psychotic-break Zubrin shooting oldspace enablers at the IAC is hilarious

[Anonymous No.12100808]

>>12100789
Do you think the management of SLS is self aware enough to know they are designing a rocket that when completed will already be outdated by 20 years?

[Anonymous No.12100810]

>>12100806
>angry space manlet kills congressman

[Anonymous No.12100811]

>>12100806
it could happen. if you read his twitter he sounds like he might shoot up an environmentalist convention too. how can one jew be so based

[Anonymous No.12100813]

>>12100796
nice

[Anonymous No.12100815]

>SN10 is getting stacked
did they skip SN9? I haven't heard anything about it.

[Anonymous No.12100817]

>>12100815
Superheavy has begun 0_0

[Anonymous No.12100822]

>>12100815
SN9's parts have also been in work to a similar level. SN10 isn't getting stacked yet as much as domes are getting sleeved, but it certainly looks quite likely that SN10 is the first prototype for Superheavy.

[Anonymous No.12100861]

>>12100815
you can see her in this image, I think

[Anonymous No.12100890]

Ugh, anyone got any good /sfg/ pastas? I was thinking about the “I broke up with my girlfriend and all I do is look at the stars” anon all week lmao

[Anonymous No.12100897]

>>12100811
is zubrin jewish? I thought he was italian

[Anonymous No.12100901]

>>12100890

[Anonymous No.12100913]

Will both SN5 and SN6 fly again before SN8?

[Anonymous No.12100923]

>>12100789

[Anonymous No.12100924]

>>12100789
how can a meme be this accurate?

[Anonymous No.12100936]

>>12100890
Pill me down on this one.

[Anonymous No.12100940]

>>12100789
Is this a graph? Why do only half the dots have a line?
>>12100796
>green red and black with yellow fimbriation, and A TRIANGLE
yep

[Anonymous No.12100963]

>w-well, our lander is closer to the ground. it's s-safer for astronauts because it's closer to the ground
what kind of pussy would justify a baby dick lander over chad starship with this reasoning? ignoring the anon we had recently who couldn't climb up a ladder. imagine setting down and looking out at a lunar vista from 50m, leisurely taking a lift down to the surface. who can even compete

[Anonymous No.12100976]

>>12100963
You can fall 43m on the moon before serious injury is likely

[Anonymous No.12100982]

>>12100976
Why didn't any of the astronauts that made it to the moon just jump as hard as they possibly could? That seems like one of the very first things you'd do, right after saying the most memorable line in human history and planting your flag.

[Anonymous No.12100989]

>>12100982
because rockets explode when they hit the dome. also you can only jump about 3m on the moon. and apollo suits are rigid balloons. and you would risk tearing it

[Anonymous No.12100996]

>>12100963
The year is February, 2021. HLS downselect time. NASA selects Blue Pee National Team to manufacture a lander in the great state of Alabama. SpaceX goes bankrupt. Elon commits sudoku

[Anonymous No.12101028]

>>12100963
>moon skyscraper
vs
>ALPACA

[Anonymous No.12101030]

>>12100982
one of them did, I think on Apollo 12
he was halfway up when he realized that he was an idiot and probably just killed himself

[Anonymous No.12101052]

>>12100808
Yes and they don't care.

[Anonymous No.12101072]

>>12101030
he made it though

[Anonymous No.12101074]

>>12101072
yeah

[Anonymous No.12101089]

Long March more like Long Dong am i right?

[Anonymous No.12101099]

>>12101089
Long Ching Chong?

[Anonymous No.12101136]

>https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-787-dreamliner-quality-problems-737-max-crisis-2020-9
BOING!

[Anonymous No.12101156]

>>12101136
jesus, should I feel bad? i can't stop laughing

[Anonymous No.12101189]

>Ban SpaceX now

[Anonymous No.12101227]

>>12100996
Someone shoop Shelby onto Senator Armstrong

[Anonymous No.12101248]

>https://spacenews.com/space-force-too-early-to-say-if-military-will-need-super-heavy-launch-vehicles/
oh no no no no

[Anonymous No.12101264]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3XS_5L--Qg

[Anonymous No.12101265]

>>12101248
RIP Starship :(

[Anonymous No.12101304]

>>12101264
>being proud to fly the shittle

[Anonymous No.12101315]

>>12101248
space force is a mix of oldspace and weasels that don't want to rock the boat, I'm not expecting anything from them. They could actually end up being a detriment like the airforce kicking and screaming to make sure other branches don't muscle in on their 'turf'

[Anonymous No.12101324]

>>12100861
no, that's SN5, SN8 and SN6

[Anonymous No.12101329]

>reposting
There was a yt video originally titled "Storytime with Tom Mueller - Launch Canada Lecture". It was over 4hrs of Tom being cool, lots of good info. Anyone dl or mirror it? it was rly neat

[Anonymous No.12101363]

>>12101304
>fly and survive the shittle
I mean who wouldn't be proud

[Anonymous No.12101393]

When nearly all jobs become automated, the only choices are UBI or literal slavery. Megacorporations that own the automation equipment will have virtually unlimited wealth and your work will have no value so there will be no way to pay you.

[Anonymous No.12101405]

>>12101393
musk is drunk on soi

[Anonymous No.12101407]

>>12101393
Kill off megacorps and install a fash dictatorship. Simple.

[Anonymous No.12101409]

How hard would it be to grow proper trees on mars? Would it be possible with underground greenhouses, cured soil and UV light?

Just thinking about how drab the living conditions on mars would be if everything was metal or plastic. Some wood would be nice.

[Anonymous No.12101413]

>>12101409
I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard.The issues are building a big enough underground park and maybe power issues due to all the grow lights.

[Anonymous No.12101419]

>>12101393
>unlimited wealth
they wont have consumers to buy the products you retard

[Anonymous No.12101442]

>>12100936
Pretty sure anon is talking about this one:

I would give everything i have and will ever own just for the chance to scrub toilets on Mars.

I’m 18 now. Will I be able to go there? My current plan is very very pessimistic, and it entails me saving up $250,000 over the next 25 years in order to buy a suborbital hop on New Shepard.

My ex literally asked me if I loved her and I said no. She asked who I loved then and I just pointed up at the nighttime sky.

[Anonymous No.12101455]

>>12101407
What does a dictatorship even rule over when the people are superfluous?

[Anonymous No.12101468]

>>12101455
wegottheniggercattlewegottheniggercattle

[Anonymous No.12101470]

>>12101409
I imagine you could have a tree growing in the middle of a dome (spheres/domes have best inner volume/outer surface ratio), so that you can use the space.
But that's more of a park than a tree plantation.
I reckon bamboo would be a much better source of materials.

[Anonymous No.12101472]

>>12101304
If not for them you wouldn't have Hubble.

[Anonymous No.12101475]

>>12101419
1.Corpration buys from another corporation
2.PROFIT

[Anonymous No.12101482]

>>12101393
Automation is a boogeyman that will never actually occur.

[Anonymous No.12101484]

>>12101472
>the poohubble.

[Anonymous No.12101485]

>>12101482
If that helps you sleep at night. Sure

[Anonymous No.12101486]

>>12101442
Holy shit that’s my pasta lmao. I’m at Uni now studying Pre-Med so I can but my ticket. I’m a lot happier now that Starship is doing well. I’m confident I can die on mars now.

[Anonymous No.12101488]

>>12101455
People. Even if every bit of hard labor has been automated away you still need people for a bunch of stuff like maintaining the highest level maintenance robots and people to program all of the robots. The simplest answer is power, and for some unnecessary humans will be seen as just that, but for others they may want to keep them around as a result of some sort of aristocratic form of schadenfreude. Though most generally speaking, innovation in any form is meant to make life better for as many people as possible. You keep people around just because they deserve to be kept around. Though of course even that in and of itself will have decisions that have to be made about who really constitutes deserving of being kept around.
>>12101475
What happens when so many mergers and corporate sabotages happen that a single corporation rules everything?
If they have no people to sell to and no other corporations to sell to then what?
Eventually they have to stop being a corporation and just become a "regular" empire.

[Anonymous No.12101495]

>>12101488
funny how the endgame of capitalism is single party planned economy

[Anonymous No.12101497]

>>12101495
Communism is capitalism in decay.

[Anonymous No.12101499]

>>12101495
the endgame of capitalism is true freedom

[Anonymous No.12101507]

>>12100890
I just don't understand this reusable meme meme...

[Anonymous No.12101516]

>>12101482
>pretending a problem doesn't exist because you don't like the solution

[Anonymous No.12101517]

>>12101495
Capitalism is naturally self-destructive

[Anonymous No.12101518]

https://launcherspace.com/rocket-1

Anyone heard of these guys? Looks interesting for sure. But still a bit off in the future.

[Anonymous No.12101519]

>>12101495
Yeah no shit. That's why you have to control corporations with a tight collar and a short leash.

[Anonymous No.12101549]

>>12101519
based social capitalist

[Anonymous No.12101564]

>>12101518
I'd like to see a bigger version of their engine if it's really as good as they're hyping.

[Anonymous No.12101577]

Today in history:
>1892 – Amalthea, third moon of Jupiter is discovered by Edward Emerson Barnard.
>1940 – George Stibitz pioneers the first remote operation of a computer.
>2012 – The Indian space agency puts into orbit its heaviest foreign satellite yet, in a streak of 21 consecutive successful PSLV launches.

[Anonymous No.12101578]

>>12101442
Yes this is the one
>>12101486
Holy shit you are the original poster?? Anon I think about this post an unhealthy amount. It makes me laugh so much. I hope you make it though friend

[Anonymous No.12101583]

>>12101486
>>12101578
Lol. Was this a real story?

[Anonymous No.12101585]

ULA Exec in charge of Vulcan-Centaur talking on the summit.

[Anonymous No.12101592]

>>12101516
>Pretending a problem exists because you like the solution

What did people do when technological improvements dramatically reduced the percentage of the population engaged in agriculture?
They got different jobs, often created by those same technological improvements.

[Anonymous No.12101597]

>>12101517
In the sense a caterpillar is “self-destructive” because it eventually turns into a butterfly, sure.

[Anonymous No.12101601]

>>12101485
>Just you wait, flying cars will create huge traffic problems any day now

[Anonymous No.12101612]

>>12101585
>the exec holds back tears as he talks about ACES

[Anonymous No.12101614]

>>12101488
>You keep people around just because they deserve to be kept around.

Random shitheads who literally do nothing DESERVE to be kept around?
No. They deserve to starve and die.

[Anonymous No.12101624]

>>12101614
Read the sentence immediately after that.

[Anonymous No.12101625]

>>12101624
People who do not perform labor for others deserve nothing from others.

[Anonymous No.12101627]

>Eventually, Congress got the upper hand, putting NASA on track to build the large SLS rocket at a development cost of more than $2 billion a year. The rocket program mostly benefited the Alabama space center and was championed by Alabama State Senator Richard Shelby. The potential of in-space fuel storage and transfer threatened the SLS rocket because it would allow NASA to do some exploration missions with smaller and cheaper rockets. As one source explained at the time, "Senator Shelby called NASA and said if he hears one more word about propellant depots he’s going to cancel the Space Technology program."

>Some engineers at NASA still wanted to solve the fuel storage and transfer issue in 2011 and put together a $400 million depot development plan. This would have included an in-space demonstration of the technology. They argued that both orbital refueling and large rockets were vital for a sustainable exploration plan. However, Congress never adequately funded the effort, and it fizzled into a series of lesser ground tests.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/07/nasa-agrees-to-work-with-spacex-on-orbital-refueling-technology/

[Anonymous No.12101628]

>The Star-37 is part of a family of apogee solid propellant kick motors known for their volume efficient rounded shape
>Some say that there is a Star-0.25 that when swallowed makes you go down the rabbit hole of solid propellants

[Anonymous No.12101629]

>>12101488
>1488

[Anonymous No.12101630]

>>12101592
More like the old generation of farmers died off and the new generation went to making tractors n shiet

[Anonymous No.12101635]

>>12101628
>The GEM-40 is a solid rocket booster used on the venerable Delta II which itself has a long history of using SRBs
>The name is said to have come from when famous singer Gloria Tang Tsz-kei (known by her stage name of G.E.M.) visited the Northrop Grumman factory as they were producing the prototypes

[Anonymous No.12101637]

>>12101612
oh no no no he's talking about ACES. He said it helped better the centaur. Shame...

[Anonymous No.12101643]

>>12101592
And when those got automated they shoved everybody into the service sector and since then wages and the value of labour have been wheelspinning despite the massive increases in productivity. And now they are getting shoved out of the service sector by automation. Where do you suppose we put them now?

Technological improvements do not create jobs but reduce them, we have simply have been in a job surplus for most of human history.

[Anonymous No.12101648]

>After all, if smaller, cheaper rockets could launch rocket fuel and stash it in low-Earth orbit for staged missions to the Moon or beyond, why should NASA spend $2 billion a year annually to develop the SLS rocket? Why not just use that money to buy commercial launches, starting with the Delta IV Heavy and later the Falcon Heavy, and build an exploration program around existing capabilities? It would likely be quicker and cheaper.

>"We had released a series of papers showing how a depot/refueling architecture would enable a human exploration program using existing (at the time) commercial rockets," Sowers tweeted on Wednesday. "Boeing became furious and tried to get me fired. Kudos to my CEO for protecting me. But we were banned from even saying the 'd' word out loud. Sad part is that ULA did a lot of pathfinding work in that area and could have owned the refueling/depot market, enriching Boeing (and Lockheed) in the process. But it was shut down because it threatened SLS."

>"Let's be very honest again," Bolden said in a 2014 interview. "We don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry."

>SpaceX privately developed the Falcon Heavy rocket for about $500 million, and it flew its first flight in February 2018. It has now flown three successful missions. NASA has spent about $14 billion on the SLS rocket and related development costs since 2011. That rocket is not expected to fly before at least mid or late 2021.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/rocket-scientist-says-that-boeing-squelched-work-on-propellant-depots/

[Anonymous No.12101652]

>>12101643
>imagine being this ignorant of economics and history
why does this thread have to attract such smooth brains?

[Anonymous No.12101655]

>>12101635
>The Space Shuttle Solid Rocket Booster (also known as the Castor 1200) is the most powerful solid rocket motor ever flown with a single stick producing 14.7MN of thrust
>Rumors say that when completed the motors whispered about their thirst for the souls of the damned, official statements say that its just the wind whistling through the o-rings

[Anonymous No.12101659]

>>12101648
>But we were banned from even saying the 'd' word out loud.
It must literally be like working with children. My hope is that one day humanity won't be this fucking pathetic and childish

[Anonymous No.12101660]

>>12101625
You cannot meaningfully perform labor for others if labor has no value.

[Anonymous No.12101662]

>>12101648
>We had released a series of papers showing how a depot/refueling architecture would enable a human exploration program using existing (at the time) commercial rockets
Anyone know where those papers are?

[Anonymous No.12101666]

>>12101625
>>12101614
But what happens when it's literally impossible for a person's work to have value? If a machine can do anything a human can do for free, why pay a human to do a worse job?
The point of being a human isn't slavery or death.

[Anonymous No.12101667]

>>12101662
Try asking him. Pls share if he replies.
https://twitter.com/george_sowers/status/1156602016023498752

[Anonymous No.12101668]

>>12101643
Technological improvements have literally no effect on the volume of jobs, just their distribution.

[Anonymous No.12101670]

>>12101583
>>12101578
Lel thanks and yeah I was being super cringy. Still mean it though. Overall I am very autistic around girls even ones I’ve been dating for a while and I say random shit a lot too. Think of someone who speaks like Joe Biden 24/7 that’s not Joe Biden and you have me.

[Anonymous No.12101672]

>>12101666
My guess is that the people who don't like those conditions will just form their own separate society and economy where automation is regulated, and leave the fully automated economy alone.

[Anonymous No.12101673]

Our wiki has recommended readings on economics. You don't need to be this ignorant anons.

[Anonymous No.12101678]

>>12101668
Yes that is what happens when you remove jobs in a job surplus

[Anonymous No.12101679]

>>12101666
>If a machine can do anything a human can do for free

Then you have strong AI which opens up a can of Mongolian death worms. Humans will merge with technology, not sit around getting rimjobs from roombas.

[Anonymous No.12101681]

>>12101673
You mean Atomic Rockets?

[Anonymous No.12101682]

>>12101660
Labor always has value.

[Anonymous No.12101687]

>>12101681
That too.

[Anonymous No.12101690]

>>12101648
it blows my mind that there are people with that much power in the spaceflight industry who actively and knowingly hold mankind back from exploring the cosmos
it's cartoonishly evil

[Anonymous No.12101692]

Rocket engines sound comfy on orbit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgLyCYuYA4

[Anonymous No.12101693]

>>12101682
let me just break your windows to replace them

[Anonymous No.12101694]

It should be illegal to have such a smooth brain.
Schools should teach economics.
This makes me sad.

[Anonymous No.12101704]

>>12101693
there is a rock in my room. pay me to carry it around.

[Anonymous No.12101709]

>>12101690
Never trust the government.

[Anonymous No.12101715]

>>12101687
The wtf is "our wiki"?

[Anonymous No.12101716]

How close were we to living in the darkest timeline bro’s?

>Falcon 1 flight 4 fails
>SpaceX does not win the CRS contract
>SpaceX dies

10 years later...

>SLS still on track for a 2021 flight
>Vulcan doesn’t even exist
>Blue origin has yet to do...anything
>Trips to mars “Eventually”

[Anonymous No.12101721]

>>12101662
Search on here https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search

I found this, but not a lot of details. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19830002927

[Anonymous No.12101722]

>>12101715
It unironically has a great selection of books on many subjects, including space flight and economics. All with self study in mind.
https://4chan-science.fandom.com/wiki//sci/_Wiki

Cute girl btw.

[Anonymous No.12101725]

Okay, I've changed my mind. Callisto > Ganymede. They're neighbors anyway, so we could always go to Ganymede after Callisto.

[Anonymous No.12101734]

>>12101716
Literally on the edge of a knife. Spacex almost went under in 2008. This timeline could be better, but it could certainly far worse.

[Anonymous No.12101746]

>but what about the gravity
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/07/910504980/researchers-find-a-drug-that-could-allow-astronauts-spend-years-in-space
If i were an astronaut i would volunteer to be a guinea pig for this stuff on my next trip. This could make rotating surface structures unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.12101755]

>>12101746
How long till I can sell my body to experimental drug companies for a ticket into space?

[Anonymous No.12101759]

>>12101746
There are other problems that come from micro gravity. Such as lowered immune response.
Myostatin inhibitors are known to increase your chances of cancer. Ask any genetically modified cattle.

[Anonymous No.12101764]

Back when sci was young in 2013, i remember the black cloud of pessimism that surrounded aerospace discussions. Spacex was widely considered to be unlikely to accomplish much, and the end of the shuttle program loomed large in light of our lack of a successor for human launch. When that string of fiery crashes ended in a landed booster, i will never forget the shock and elation that swept this place.

[Anonymous No.12101770]

>>12101764
yep, these spaceflight generals were originally spacex generals

[Anonymous No.12101773]

>>12101746
I didn't see us finding a drug like this for decades or centuries, if ever.

[Anonymous No.12101778]

>>12101764
We saw the light. Elon burned bright and from that super nova came a black hole.
Nothing can stop him now. He will accrete oldspace and launch senator Shelby away in a relativistic jet.

[Anonymous No.12101779]

>>12101746
>makes your body stop limiting muscle and bone growth
Surely this will only be used to help facilitate space travel.
But also low gravity sucks for a bunch of other reasons.
>>12101773
Crazy genetic modifications are already here, they just aren't used on humans due to current morals and international agreements.
Expect furries to become an even bigger problem sometime soon.

[Anonymous No.12101782]

>>12101773
Myostatin inhibitors are not new. >>12101759

[Anonymous No.12101787]

>>12101782
It says it prevents bone loss tho.

[Anonymous No.12101788]

>>12101690
Wasteful spending on things that don't directly benefit the majority of the world's population is unethical, humanity has one planet, one future. It doesn't matter if it takes us another 300 years to get into space because it will take that long to build a just society for all humanity anyway.

[Anonymous No.12101795]

space is racist

[Anonymous No.12101797]

>>12101788
Siberia is melting. The Earth has maybe 50 years left.

[Anonymous No.12101799]

>>12101788
>it will take that long to build a just society for all humanity anyway
dominance of the space domain makes exporting democracy easier. Besides, a "just society for all humanity" is a moving goalpost that will always be sometime in the future. If we ever become a society that thinks we've fixed everything, that in itself is a bigger problem than any of the problems we have today.

[Anonymous No.12101804]

>>12101795
Space exploration as a hobby for a privileged technocrat class is racist, yes.

[Anonymous No.12101811]

>>12101804
wft i love racism now

[Anonymous No.12101818]

>>12101804
Sounds good to me

[Anonymous No.12101819]

>>12101797
Which is why we need to overcome climate change first before we go on spending sprees that won't amount to anything because we cannot build asteroid mining robots yet. Building a manned base while Earth gets destroyed is vanity and hubris.

[Anonymous No.12101820]

>>12101797
No. We will be fine, although i think it will sadly be a slog to actually fix things because of this
>existential threat! 12 years left to act! Doom! Disaster awaits!
>okay, we have a working fusion reactor, now we-
>not in my backyard

Just watch the environihilists kick and scream and false equivalence fusion power with the mistakes of old fission. Retards are our worst foe, not carbon.

[Anonymous No.12101825]

>>12101804
I wish my hobbies could provide internet access to impovershed rural populations around the world or important communications or imaging satellites for countries to maintain the health of their crops and have autonomy over their own networks.

[Anonymous No.12101826]

>>12101804
Serious question: What will happen to Jews in the future in relation to massively increasing space exploration and off-Earth communities and industries? Also what will Elon do?

[Anonymous No.12101828]

>>12101804
How is it bad to be racist, and why are you lying by pretending classism is racism?

[Anonymous No.12101830]

>>12101819
Climate change is a meme, and won’t “destroy earth” or whatever bullshit you’ve been told

[Anonymous No.12101831]

>>12101819
Space technology, medical research, basic science research, and environmental science/engineering are 4 things the government should be spending money on.

[Anonymous No.12101837]

>>12101819
What we need to overcome is China. And all of the other China-lites there are.
CO2 is only a small part of the pollution on Earth yet it's always pointed to because it allows the largest amount of blame to be laid on the west.

[Anonymous No.12101840]

>>12101819
You are deeply ignorant about the benefits of space exploration and research. Go educate yourself.

[Anonymous No.12101845]

>>12101819
The methane clathrates are melting. It's literally over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian%E2%80%93Triassic_extinction_event

[Anonymous No.12101850]

>>12101837
>What we need to overcome is China

You won’t. China is willing to take measures that western nations are not to ensure stability and power. Minorities that could be troublesome, threaten cultural homogeneity?
Exterminated. Deported. Re-educated.
Political dissidents?
Killed. Imprisoned. Memory holed.
Criminals?
Monitored. Surveilled. Executed. Imprisoned.
Enemy nations?
Create social unrest. Spy on. Domineer.

[Anonymous No.12101852]

>>12101830
>scientists are wrong but the media outlets owned by oil companies are right

[Anonymous No.12101856]

>>12101845
>Cites Wikipedia page which discusses at length about how the clathrate gun hypothesis is bullshit with zero evidence if you scroll down a bit

[Anonymous No.12101858]

>>12101852
Yes. It’s a narrative with an agenda.

[Anonymous No.12101861]

>>12101799
>Export globohomo democracy that destroys cultures and creates unrest

[Anonymous No.12101862]

>>12101850
You underestimate China's ability to waste potential.
>>12101852
Big oil companies are some of the biggest backers of climate change awareness and other such things. It allows them to get laws, regulations, and restrictions passed that they have the money, influence, and power to be able to find loopholes through while their smaller up-and-coming competitors can't.

[Anonymous No.12101867]

>>12101852
No scientists claim that the world will be destroyed by it getting a bit warmer, either. Stop paying attention to liberals.

[Anonymous No.12101880]

Welcome to this episode of SpaceX containment gro... "R&D", tonight...

[Anonymous No.12101884]

>>12101862
>Big oil companies are some of the biggest backers of climate change awareness and other such things
That is a relatively recent development. Before that they were shilling the idea that the was no climate change at all non stop despite their own research indicating the opposite.
That said, oil don't have a meaningful long term future, specially in the USA, where the oil industry have been operating at a loss for a while, only remaining active because of the government throwing money at it.

[Anonymous No.12101890]

Petroleum is a wonder substance. Burning it for energy is a waste of its potential.

[Anonymous No.12101891]

>>12100789
>>12100923
what the fuck does the x axis even represent here

[Anonymous No.12101904]

>>12101891
The axis’ are labeled lol

“Opinion of SLS”
“Time spent in space industry”

[Anonymous No.12101908]

>>12101891
the x axis is the shape of the beak
the y axis is the deal

[Anonymous No.12101910]

>It's a good thing to poison the environment and giving everone cancer as long as Israeli oil execs get a paycheck
-media companies owned by the same Israelis

[Anonymous No.12101915]

>>12100789
>nothing towards SpaceX other than pity
>positive on the "opinion on SLS"-axis
This won't pass peer review.

[Anonymous No.12101916]

>>12101915
*feels nothing towards SLS other than pity

[Anonymous No.12101918]

>>12100808
>by 20 years
Anon, Shuttle engine design is over 40 years old.

[Anonymous No.12101920]

>>12100822
>SN10 is the first prototype for Superheavy
Then it's not SN10, but SN1 of Superheavy.

[Anonymous No.12101926]

>>12100808
>when completed will already be outdated by 20 years?
It is already outdated.

[Anonymous No.12101930]

>>12101920
>Then it's not SN10, but SN1 of Superheavy.
SpaceX cares not for your opinions of their vehicle nomenclature.

[Anonymous No.12101932]

>>12101820
Fusion still produces nuclear waste (and no, we haven't solved the nuclear waste problem) and after 80 years of wasting money on fusion research there's still no working reactor design. Why would you ever want to build expensive, waste producing fusion reactors when you have dirt cheap wind turbines and solar panels?

>>12101840
You mean benefits such as >>12101825 which we had since the 1970ies? By the same logic even CERN isn't a waste of money because it happened to employ the guy who invented the world wide web.

[Anonymous No.12101943]

>>12101932
>Fusion still produces nuclear waste (and no, we haven't solved the nuclear waste problem)

Fusion's waste products are neutron activated reactor walls. No major long term wastes that are going to pollute water, soil, or are are produced, you just don't want to spend your time standing next to them for a few decades. It's an annoying, but solved, problem.

>and after 80 years of wasting money on fusion research there's still no working reactor design.

Starvation-funded but hardware heavy physics program takes time to deliver results, news at 11.

>Why would you ever want to build expensive, waste producing fusion reactors when you have dirt cheap wind turbines and solar panels?

Ask Californians amidst their rolling blackouts from an energy grid that can't cope with anything resembling off-nominal weather conditions. Wind turbines and solar power don't generate power when you want or need it, and nobody can afford the batteries needed to balance the load demand in the volume needed to keep up with the energy demands of civilization.

[Anonymous No.12101944]

Musk should watch out for Novichok tea.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1303387275942940672

[Anonymous No.12101946]

>>12101932
Are you shitposting? Solar and wind are the big gay. Each has a huge array of problems unless you’re on another planet and solar is your only convenient means of generating power. The world could use clean fusion now

[Anonymous No.12101949]

>>12101926
based comment

[Anonymous No.12101962]

>>12101488
Sell it to themselves.

[Anonymous No.12101970]

>>12101488
>What happens when so many mergers and corporate sabotages happen that a single corporation rules everything?
checked and Demoltion Man pilled
Don't forget how to use the three shells!

[Anonymous No.12102001]

>>12101867
The world will be fine. It's our modern, human society that will be strained to the breaking point.

>>12101837
>CO2 is only a small part of the pollution on Earth yet it's always pointed to
It's the one being pointed to because it is the one that will deal the most damage in the shortest amount of time to the most amount of people.
So unless micro plastic suddenly starts eating flesh, electronic trash gets up and decides to come visit us all in our homes, or all chemical and nuclear waste spontaneously starts exploding, I think it's ok to focus on climate change above the others.

[Anonymous No.12102011]

I thought it a pretty good joke at the store the other day, I say "Hey, buddy, you think the government is gonna go to Mars? Well, maybe, you just might be from that place then. Why don't you tell us how you got here?" Dropped my stuff and grabbed my stomach, wife doesn't get it though.

[Anonymous No.12102012]

>>12102001
>It's our modern, human society that will be strained to the breaking point.

Good. Degenerate societies ought to be destroyed.

[Anonymous No.12102016]

>>12102001
>It's the one being pointed to because it is the one that will deal the most damage in the shortest amount of time to the most amount of people.

There is no evidence it’s ever damaged anyone or ever will.

[Anonymous No.12102018]

Starship space station concept

[Anonymous No.12102021]

>>12102018
Kinda looks like the septic tank from Joe Dirt if ya know what I mean...

[Anonymous No.12102064]

>>12102018
Would be nice if the engines could be returned.

[Anonymous No.12102090]

>>12102018
Eh it would be better to have a two Starship spacestation instead of one desu.
Attach them nose to nose and you have the best thing since Skylab

[Anonymous No.12102111]

>>12102018
Could Super Heavy put something like that straight into orbit rather than putting a regular Starship up and then faffing around with replacing the fuel tanks and renovating the insides into a space station. I think it would be much easier to put an almost empty shell up and then send up regular Starships to fill it out.
>>12102090
Attach them by a long cable and then start spinning them around each other and then we've got not only a space station that's almost four and a half times larger than the previous largest ever built but also the first artificial gravity space station both at the same time.
Now that would be one hell of an accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.12102113]

>>12100897
He's got a bad case of TDS so Jewish is more likely.

[Anonymous No.12102125]

>>12102064
Just take them off and put them in another Starship.

[Anonymous No.12102133]

>>12101648
>Eric Berger is an /sfg/ poster

[Anonymous No.12102164]

>>12102133
dangerously based picture

[Anonymous No.12102165]

>>12102111
Attach four of them by a perpendicular pair of tethers, and then add more solar panels or radiators coming off the bottom of the Starship at a 90 degree angle.

[Anonymous No.12102169]

>>12102165
lmao

[Anonymous No.12102179]

>>12102165
No.
Put a Swastika-shaped array of mirrors into geostationary orbit directly over Israel.

[Anonymous No.12102203]

Time to repost this classic vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptPdlVAwFg

[Anonymous No.12102205]

>>12102165
>>12102179
Artist's rendition of what such an array might look like.

[Anonymous No.12102206]

>>12102179
>geostationary orbit directly over Israel.
Israel is not on the equator so it would have to be same longitude at best.

[Anonymous No.12102214]

Can a physics anon here give me a basic basic basic explanation of how a neutron is stabilized in an atom when it normally dies in like 15 mins? Does it have something to do with “binding energy is stronger than decay energy” or something. I know it’s the strong nuclear force but i need a quick explanation of what exactly is happening

[Anonymous No.12102215]

>>12102205
truly art

[Anonymous No.12102216]

>>12102203
Cost-plus is a hell of a drug.

[Anonymous No.12102222]

SN7.1 pop when

[Anonymous No.12102238]

>>12102222
feed that piggy till he pops!

[Anonymous No.12102258]

FUCK URF

[Anonymous No.12102269]

01010000 01110010 01100001 01101001 01110011 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001111 01101101 01101110 01101001 01110011 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101000

[Anonymous No.12102273]

>On Monday, a Long March 4B rocket launched from China's Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center carrying a remote-sensing satellite. This 50-year-old spaceport is located in north-central China, about 500km to the southwest of Beijing.

>As often happens with the first stages of Chinese rockets launching from the inland Taiyuan facility, the spent Long March 4B booster fell downstream of the spaceport. In this case, it landed near a school, creating a predictably large cloud of toxic gas.

>Unlike most of the world's spaceports, several of China's launch sites are located at inland locations rather than near water to avoid such hazards. For security purposes, China built three of its major launch centers away from water during the Cold War, amid tensions with both America and the Soviet Union.

[Anonymous No.12102276]

>>12102269
What happened?

[Anonymous No.12102286]

>>12102222
>SN7.1 pop when
Tomorrow night.

[Anonymous No.12102287]

>>12102276
Nothing. Just a reminder to please the machine spirits anon

[Anonymous No.12102305]

>>12102205
jesus, could you imagine the titanic amount of seethe that something like this could bring? and what's more, it could be feasible within less than a decade.

[Anonymous No.12102308]

>>12102273
Then they use the rocket parts to expand the school facilities.
Boom reusability.
Amerimutts on suicide watch.
Elong finished and bankrupt.
Capitalism is over.

[Anonymous No.12102317]

>>12102205
it's been there all along

[Anonymous No.12102338]

>>12100789
All these wojack variants are cancer to the eyes

[Anonymous No.12102339]

>>12101715
read the fucking sticky retard

[Anonymous No.12102350]

>>12102338
no u

[Anonymous No.12102359]

>>12101932
see? the ignorant faggot has no idea how much of a non-issue fusion waste is. we deal with worse substances in hospitals. you don't even need a long term fusion waste strategy-you keep it on site under a bitof water till it calms down enough that it can just be thrown away like any standard industrial waste. these people are so hypnotized by bullshit that even with people dying in blackouts they act like any form of power that isn't wind or solar is some terrible bugaboo that hurts their feelings.

Hey faggot, guess what? California murdered 2.2 GIGAWATTS of clean reliable nuclear power to appease the feelings of people like you, directly worsening their power crisis. Your rhetoric isn't just stupid,it's dangerous.

[Anonymous No.12102360]

>>12101804
>hobby

you fucking short-sighted retard

[Anonymous No.12102361]

>>12102111
Absolutely not, there are three options when it comes to Space Stations done by Starship
1. Space Shuttle style. the Starship IS the space station, and it can come and go as it pleases. You can dock more than one of them together if you need more space, or combine it with #2.
2. ISS/Skylab style. The Starship delivers the space station and then fucks off. This gets you something about the size of the ISS in a single launch.
3. Wet workshop. Like #1 but you destroy your Starship, this is what that image is proposing. It's always worse than the other two options.

[Anonymous No.12102369]

>>12100789
noice
>>12102133
The other way around, the /sfg/ meme comes from Berger
>>12102205
>Geostationary orbit
>Visible from the ground
You'll need big ass mirrors.
Also the mirrors not on the equators won't stay there for all the orbit

[Anonymous No.12102371]

>>12102361
>This gets you something about the size of the ISS in a single launch.

[Anonymous No.12102375]

>>12102371
One normal 9 meter starship has more living space than any space station ever launched....

[Anonymous No.12102376]

>>12100725
>prev: 12096215
Fuck you.
>>12096215

[Anonymous No.12102377]

>>12102361
combining a starship and a bigelow style expanding hab could get us a station that is north of 14 meters wide. literally the same volume as a large commercial building.

[Anonymous No.12102381]

>>12102377
W I D E

[Anonymous No.12102382]

>>12102375

[Anonymous No.12102387]

>>12102377
Yes, options #2
it's a good option

[Anonymous No.12102388]

>combining a starship and a bigelow style expanding hab could get us a station that is north of 14 meters wide. literally the same volume as a large commercial building.

[Anonymous No.12102399]

>>12102371
>>12102382
>>12102388
DID YOU WANT GIANT SPACE STATIONS?
ALRIGHT ANON, GIANT SPACE STATIONS IT IS!
AT CRAZY ELON'S USED ROCKET EMPORIUM WE'LL TAKE ROLLED STEEL AND TURN IT INTO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT!

[Anonymous No.12102400]

>>12102205
>Geostationary orbit
To be reasonably visible (size of full moon) it would have to be 320km in diameter

[Anonymous No.12102405]

>>12101944
Only a person that has not seen what a poisoning looks like,can talk about it in casual terms.
if novichok was a real weapon the one taking it and the ones in 5 mile radius would have been dropping like flies.

[Anonymous No.12102406]

https://www.space.com/mice-muscle-bone-loss-microgravity-myostatin.html

tl;dr there's a protein that inhibits muscle loss and you can prevent astronaut bone/muscle atrophy by blocking it. Use gainzstations for raising kids and there's no reason for lifelong spacers to lose the ability to live on planets.

[Anonymous No.12102410]

SN8 hop when?

[Anonymous No.12102413]

>>12102410
Not in September

[Anonymous No.12102415]

>>12102016
>There is no evidence it’s ever damaged anyone
I guess you could argue that, although I'm pretty sure there's research in that direction going on right now.
>or ever will
Are you retarded? There are literally thousands of papers of evidence of this. The entire field of climate science has been devoted to how many people will be harmed at what point in the future for decades now.

[Anonymous No.12102425]

>>12102388
assuming a 14 meter length and width and minus a bit for its thickness that's somewhere around 74k cubic feet
for perspective on what that internal volume would look like this is only 9 meters wide.

[Anonymous No.12102427]

>>12101725
Agreed
>>12102205
/pol/ will do this within two decades
>>12102377
>>12102387
imagine combining tens of these modules to create a von braun style rotating station with 15 meter diameter sections

[Anonymous No.12102429]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXgLyCYuYA4
>>>/wsg/3614656

So sexy.

[Anonymous No.12102436]

>>12101030
https://youtu.be/16D0hmLt-S0
>The both star jumping, and one of them falls on their ass
Haha

[Anonymous No.12102437]

>>12102410
Not for a while. They'll have to do the SN7.1 testing and at least one more SN5/SN6 hop, likely more, before testing SN8.
They really seem to be experiencing a testing bottleneck right now. SN8 tanks are done, SN9 is well underway, SN10 is beginning work, and Super Heavy assembly is likely to begin soon (assuming SN10 isn't it already). The second test stand and eventually the launch pad should be able to alleviate that, but it'll take a while for testing to catch up.

>>12102429
The cuts in this video really bothered me, especially the one right at launch.

[Anonymous No.12102439]

>>12102205
>>12102179
>>12102165
>>12102215
I'm not offended by this but can someone explain why it's so hilarious to say nigger or put up a swastika? I don't see what's so impressive of picking the most low-hanging fruit out there. Trolling is supposed to be a art.

[Anonymous No.12102444]

>>12102425
Gah. I don’t even know what to say. Elon is delivering hope in a time when Boeing is somehow constantly robbing it. Fuck boeing fuck then all to the icy cold depths of dante’s inferno.

[Anonymous No.12102447]

>>12102425
>No human is fit to live in a commieblock pod, it's just inhumane
>get in the starship with 99 other people
>Yes sir Mr. Elon sir!

[Anonymous No.12102452]

>>12102439
I think you mean trolling is a nart.

[Anonymous No.12102453]

>>12102439
I think it’s an offshoot of /pol/ humor. It was funny to support nazis in the early 00’s but now i think the irony is lost and all the newfags on 4chan assume everyone unironically likes hitler. They shit on socialism without realizing they “support” national socialism. I do hate jews though, that part is unironic.

[Anonymous No.12102454]

>>12102436
thank you, they did it on Apollo 16
there was at least one more instance of this, he goes YIPPEE when he does it
probably Apollo 12

[Anonymous No.12102458]

>>12102439
Why are you expecting 4chan to aim even a plank length above the absolute minimum?

[Anonymous No.12102468]

>>12102439
just think about the amount of seethe that would be generated if such a thing happened anon

[Anonymous No.12102471]

>>12102458
To be fair, /pol/ can pool their autism and catch commies on the run from feds. But the other side of the coin is that they are retarded and have been convinced for the past 3 months that the three gorges dam is doomed to fail “any day now”. Tbh it’s more pathetic than the “fusion is 10 years away” meme we all buy into.

[Anonymous No.12102475]

>>12102447
100 people in a Starship is doable if you're on there with a best friend or lover to share a pod
50 pairs could work for a few months

[Anonymous No.12102477]

>>12102454
If MITs Bio-Suit works, people might be able to jump like 10+ feet in the air

[Anonymous No.12102478]

>>12102447
Anon you realize that sending 100 people to mars at a time is a very long way away right? The first few synods will see Starships packed with food and machinery and some that have like 5-7 people at most. it'll be the mid to late 2030s before these things carry more than 20-30 people at a time. You need much less room with space based quarters-a simple zip-up padded bag will be softer and more gentle than them most luxurious mattress. Even with 100 people it will feel fine-esp if they sleep in shifts. Then you'd only have 30 people active at any given time.

[Anonymous No.12102480]

>>12102388
I'm not convinced about inflated habs in vacuum. One stray asteroid and you're fucked.

[Anonymous No.12102483]

>>12102471
fusion is absolutely less than 10 years away, if anybody wanted to put actual money into it

[Anonymous No.12102484]

>>12102471
10 years away? It's more like 2-5 years away.

[Anonymous No.12102487]

>>12102480
inflatohabs are better than tin fucking cans for that, anon
there's actual science on this in space with BEAM on the ISS, it's much more durable than the rest of the station

[Anonymous No.12102491]

>>12102480
Anon...half the advantage of the expanded habs is they test waaaaaaay better at dealing with micrometeorites.

[Anonymous No.12102494]

>>12102478
was just a joke anon

[Anonymous No.12102495]

>>12102480
I used to think this too before taking the (big)elowpill. Inflatable modules are actually safer than solid structures. They protect against micrometeoroid impacts way better than tin cans (even if those tin cans have whipple shielding), and if you get a hole punched in the thing it still takes weeks to deflate. It’s not like a balloon; it doesn’t explode.

[Anonymous No.12102498]

>>12102483
>>12102484
Bros.... come on now.

[Anonymous No.12102503]

K-komrade Dyatlov

[Anonymous No.12102504]

>>12102498
bro no FUD

[Anonymous No.12102508]

>>12102454
Cernan seemed like he was having the time of his life when he was there. Tfw you will never frolic on the Moon.

[Anonymous No.12102509]

>>12102494
sorry im autistic af

[Anonymous No.12102514]

>>12102509
I figured, most of us are, it's ok.

[Anonymous No.12102519]

:(

[Anonymous No.12102522]

If Starship can get 100,000 kg into LEO then how much can it get into geostationary?

[Anonymous No.12102523]

>>12102487
>>12102491
>>12102495
Is there a paper that goes into detail about this? It seems that I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.12102528]

A FUCKING TURTLE

[Anonymous No.12102531]

>>12102522
more than that, if you refuel it, and none of that, if you don't

[Anonymous No.12102534]

>>12102508
Apollo 17 was probably the coolest mission. Cernan shredding around in a lunar buggy, Jack Schmitt going to the moon as a fucking geologist getting to do field work, hella long EVA’s, bringing back giant rocks, earth reentry speed record that has yet to be broken. Absolute chads.

[Anonymous No.12102540]

>>12102534
Based and Jmissionpilled

[Anonymous No.12102543]

>>12102498
Bruh,this isn't a field with one promising approach anymore,there's like 3 totally different types of fusion making stunning progress at multiple companies. even if we stick to the conservative tokamak approach, the work Tokamak Energy and CFS are doing is ground-breaking. TE are literally in the middle of designing a net-gain demo reactor right now and have one of the finest HTS labs on earth that have pushed out some really high performance test coils. SPARC is fully funded and the team is racing to catch up to them. And this isn't even the approach I think hits a Q over one first! This shit is going to be a fuckin Black Swan to the ignorant masses-it's basically like if one of those whacky free energy companies actually made a viable product.

i'm not trying to sell you anything here-these companies aren't publicly traded and I gain nothing from talking them up. But it is 100% rational to be excited about fusion. Go read up on this shit-it's a hell of a time to be alive!

[Anonymous No.12102556]

>>12102543
I don’t want to doubt, i’ve just taken the bait for the past like 15 years. Our biggest breakthrough (in my opinion) would be finding a way to stabilize muons. We could have small reactors that could run at room temperature. That’s why I asked about >>12102214, because I would love to think of a hypothetical way to keep muons from decaying in less than a second

(look up muon stabilized fusion on wikipedia to go down a rabbit hole if you’d like. I found that article in June and it triggered my autism big time)

[Anonymous No.12102559]

>>12102534
It's a shame only one geologist has gone to the moon

[Anonymous No.12102561]

>>12102556
Muon *catalyzed* fusion, my bad

[Anonymous No.12102562]

>>12102498
Lockheed Martin and MIT/SPARC will make their own working fusion reactors in the next 2-5 years
ITER is 5-10 years away from being complete, and test firing if their aren't any major delays

[Anonymous No.12102566]

>>12102018
I remember when I kept shilling that SpaceX-Bigelow starship military train concept. I wonder if it could actually work...

[Anonymous No.12102569]

>>12102566
you're still a retard

[Anonymous No.12102573]

>>12102400
Let's start with a base 320km x 320km square.
That's 102,400 square kilometers.
If we split it up into a 5 x 5 grid of panels we're left with only 53,284 square kilometers left to cover (25 64km x 64km squares with one in the center plus three for each arm).
That's 5.3 odd billion square centimeters.
The density of aluminum is 2.7 grams per cubic centimeter.
We can cut the aluminum down to 1/10 millimeter thickness.
That leaves 0.027 grams per square centimeter.
That leaves us with a little under 144 thousand kilograms of aluminum that needs to get into orbit.
That's not even two full Starships worth of payload capacity.
Even including the necessary mechanisms to unfurl such a colossal amount of material, it certainly wouldn't need even five Starships. Or even 13 if you want one for each panel section.

[Anonymous No.12102581]

First image of the Chinese spaceplane. Source is Planet Labs satellite.

[Anonymous No.12102585]

>>12102581
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/36270/this-remote-base-with-a-massive-runway-looks-to-be-where-chinas-secretive-spacecraft-landed

[Anonymous No.12102590]

>>12102569
A creative one.
>>12102573
Well shit, I guess we can get the jews to seethe after all.

[Anonymous No.12102592]

>>12102573
do the same calculations but work up from one starship worth of aluminum

[Anonymous No.12102593]

Astronomers continue to seethe about Starlink and other megaconstellations
>"Space sustainability should include preserving Earth's night sky"
https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1303757556519763969

[Anonymous No.12102595]

>>12102581
>>12102585
>even in space the Chinese make bootlegs of licensed properties

[Anonymous No.12102599]

>>12102581
This only confirms its a clone of X-37

[Anonymous No.12102601]

>>12102599
it's literally a smudge on the ground, that image doesn't confirm jack or shit

[Anonymous No.12102606]

>>12102601
It lands on a runway.
Its unmanned.
Its reusable.
It does not land like a booster.

[Anonymous No.12102608]

>>12102601
Shut the fuck up CCP chink shill

[Anonymous No.12102609]

>>12102606
and doesn't land like a capsule, yeah
you could call it a dreamchaser clone if you wanted from all you can see on that image
>>12102608
nigger

[Anonymous No.12102614]

>>12102609
watch out guys a real debunker here

[Anonymous No.12102615]

>>12102614

[Anonymous No.12102618]

>>12102601
It doesn't confirm anything but there are several reasons given to why it is probably the spaceplane
>the landing strip is in the area where the spacecraft would have landed
>the image was taken on the day of when it would have landed
>the X-37B is left alone on the middle of the runway to vent toxic fuel, so the Chinese spaceplane may be doing the same thing

[Anonymous No.12102622]

Thank God the CCP are spacepilled. We absolutely need them ot keep fucking around in space to keep the MIC eager to throw money at space. I could kiss those godless commie fucks for this spaceplane-the US program is about to get DRENCHED in new funding, ahahaha!

Ooooh! Could this get them to even go full apeshit and fund Skylon? God that would be cool!

[Anonymous No.12102624]

>>12102615
>cirno weeb poster
>retard
What a shocker

[Anonymous No.12102629]

>>12102622
Skylon is a British program and MIC funding makes everything worse, not better
just look at Lockheed and Boeing

[Anonymous No.12102634]

>>12102629
SpaceX has been given quite a bit of that sweet sweet DoD money and delivered quite a bit of bang for the buck-i think the generals are starting to slowly appreciate how badly they've been getting fucked.

And yeah it's british, but the DoD does launches with electron. No reason the couldn't fund RS. All depends if they think the advantages of a flexible large SSTO spaceplane are worth building it.

[Anonymous No.12102644]

>>12102622
>>12102634
Space Force does integrate with RAF stuff so Skylon funding is possible, if they give us technical data on how they build the thing.

[Anonymous No.12102649]

>>12102592
You could just cut it down to one quarter and it would all very easily fit in one Starship. You could see it about half the diameter of the moon in the night sky. More than enough to still be clearly seen with the naked eye.

[Anonymous No.12102665]

Did anyone save the KSP parts anon made with bocca chica parts?

[Anonymous No.12102671]

>>12102477
it's a scam

[Anonymous No.12102677]

>>12102528
it's so retarted, but why? did juff bozo design it

[Anonymous No.12102694]

>>12102205
>>12102215
So edgy

[Anonymous No.12102697]

>>12102649
>>12102573
>>12102205
>>12102179
>>12102165
It is entertaining to imagine the conversation between a launch company and an individual who wanted to do this. "listen,I want you to instantly make your company a total international pariah and cause most of your employees to instantly quit in abject disgust by helping me launch a giant sky swastika purely to annoy the jews."

A temporary sky sign saying something like "FUCK URF" would be funny and probably woudn't piss too many people off as long as it was only visible for a few days.

[Anonymous No.12102699]

>>12102697
>It is entertaining to imagine the conversation between a launch company and an individual who wanted to do this. "listen,I want you to instantly make your company a total international pariah and cause most of your employees to instantly quit in abject disgust by helping me launch a giant sky swastika purely to annoy the jews."
"Sure!"

[Anonymous No.12102700]

orbital lunchpad

[Anonymous No.12102702]

[Anonymous No.12102708]

>>12102697
iran has orbital launch capability, however small, right?

[Anonymous No.12102723]

>>12102702
uhhhhhhhh
is this over minmus

[Anonymous No.12102726]

>>12102677
Because Blue Origin has alot of self-assigned importance.

[Anonymous No.12102731]

>>12102708
Even iran wouldn't put a swastika into space.

[Anonymous No.12102741]

>>12102723
ye

[Anonymous No.12102742]

>>12102731
India would.

[Anonymous No.12102760]

>>12102731
Iran is already an international pariah that rails against Israel every day. If they refused to put a Swastika in orbit, it would prove to the world they were secretly Israeli puppets being used to justify constant sand wars. They would HAVE to accept the request on those grounds alone.

[Anonymous No.12102767]

>>12102528
>>12102677
"slow steady" They believe slow steady wins the race. Thats assume SpaceX becomes complacent and stagnant with Falcon9. But Falcon9 has doubled the performance since first debut. Now there's Falcon Heavy on top. Plus Starship in making.

The motto "slow steady" shows how delusional they are. They think operating a slow moving company is great because bezos can literally dump 1 billion dollar for infinite years.

[Anonymous No.12102772]

>>12102439
Modern woketardism and philosemitism are the de facto state religion of every government in the Western world. Nothing trolls people like defiling their beliefs.

[Anonymous No.12102776]

>>12102767
What would happen to them if Bozo croaks Paul Allen style.

[Anonymous No.12102781]

>>12102776
they disappear overnight

[Anonymous No.12102786]

>>12102772
this

[Anonymous No.12102788]

>>12102781
Yep. They got nothing right now, so if Bezos goes off, they're done. SpaceX atleast has their workhorse and their investors can rescue even if Elon bites the dust. Starlink could also literally give them unlimited yearly money for Starship and forward,.

[Anonymous No.12102789]

>>12102788
Gwynn Shotwell is Musk rule63.

[Anonymous No.12102792]

>>12102788
if Elon croaks, I think his various heads of departments can hold it together quite well
Starlink and Starship are far enough along that they've got the institutional inertia to progress to the point where they're self sustaining

[Anonymous No.12102812]

So it looks like /sfg/ was right and these final five Delta IV Heavy rockets were literally cobbled together out of old spare parts. You don't get age related failures on a freshly built expendable rocket.

[Anonymous No.12102813]

reminds me of the ending of gravity

[Anonymous No.12102816]

>>12102812
no, the age related failure was on the launchpad, because it hasn't been used in years

[Anonymous No.12102818]

>Mike Pence mentioned that NASA wants to turn Gateway into a propellant depot all the way back in 2018
SHELBY BTFO
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-vice-president-pence-34th-space-symposium-colorado-springs-co/

[Anonymous No.12102821]

>>12102776
They’d still have their national team lunar lander project, their contract to provide engines for Vulcan, and likely enough New Glenn hardware far enough along to have a chance at survival.

[Anonymous No.12102823]

I’ve been super into space telescope lately but what makes me sad is how goddamn expensive they are. Spitzer has a mirror “just” 85 centimeters across and it cost a billion dollars. Hubble’s mirror was 240 and it was colossally expensive.

How hard would it be to use a 12U cubesat (40X20X20 centimeters) to build a small space telescope with a 17 centimeters wide mirror? I know they flew the ASTERIA mission with a 7.5 centimeter mirror, and she was actually able to see the Transit if 55 Cancri E.

[Anonymous No.12102831]

>>12102812
I didn't know Pitbull was into space flight.

[Anonymous No.12102837]

>>12102818
>he used the d word
MODS MODS

[Anonymous No.12102838]

>>12102818
Wasn't lunar depth bad idea, Zubrin called it Lunar toll booth.

[Anonymous No.12102841]

>>12102818
>SHELBY BTFO
Build the depot components at Marshall (or any other facility in Alabama) and he’ll be happy. It’ll take an SLS to launch anything to a lunar depot, anyway.

[Anonymous No.12102843]

>>12102841
>it takes an SLS to launch anything to the lunar tollbooth
bruh should we tell him

[Anonymous No.12102846]

>>12102823
>but what makes me sad is how goddamn expensive they are
Like most problems in spaceflight this is due to bad booster design. You can make a MUCH cheaper telescope for a given capability range with larger, heavier mirrors and lenses. Imagine how easy it would be to build telescopes

>>12102838
It's optimizing for politics rather than delta-V - by turning Gateway into a manned station and propellant depot it means that Congress must continuously fund depot technology and moon/Mars capable rockets. Zubrin is right technically, but he hasn't realized it's the executive branch giving Congress an astro-wedgie until they do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

>>12102831
It's a MySpace angle trick. He's a dork with an underbite.

[Anonymous No.12102847]

What's her endgame?

[Anonymous No.12102852]

>>12102846
*how easy it would be to build telescopes with the MASS of the Shuttle to work with instead of its payload capacity.

[Anonymous No.12102853]

>>12102847
if it turns space autism into even more space autism, she can have any endgame she damn well pleases

[Anonymous No.12102859]

>>12102847
like Weekend at Bernies but Elon Musk and the annual Starship presentation

[Anonymous No.12102862]

>>12102847
To make sure spacex gets contracts because sometimes Elon can be a bit TOO autistic for his own good. Jim sees the potential of Musk but I don't think the DoD or other big money launchers want to go out of their way to trust their multimillion dollar payloads to a guy who shitposts anime girls

[Anonymous No.12102865]

>>12102862
Yes I can post it again

[Anonymous No.12102871]

>>12102865
Is this thing ever going to take people to space?

[Anonymous No.12102875]

>>12102865
Hey its better than this junk.

[Anonymous No.12102876]

>>12102871
Honestly, yeah. It’s just horribly delayed

[Anonymous No.12102878]

>>12102871
Unironically by the time it brings its first commercial crew: Dragon 2 will be considered “old” by spacex, F9 will literally only be used for launching dragon, FHeavy will get maybe 2 launches a year, and Starship will be gearing up to launch Artemis landers and people around the moon

[Anonymous No.12102879]

>>12102875
any decade now bros!

[Anonymous No.12102883]

>>12102871
Eventually, yes. The US government originally wanted Boeing to be the sole 'commercial' crew provider, and that company will continue to get funding until they get the product ready.

[Anonymous No.12102884]

>>12102871
For the sake of the lives of astronauts, hopefully not.

[Anonymous No.12102886]

>>12102875
>tfw no russian cosmonaut gf

[Anonymous No.12102889]

>>12102875
imagine if this flies before Starliner

[Anonymous No.12102890]

>>12102883
Jesus FUCKING christ, imagine a world where boeing just lazily awarded the contract to boeing. We would still be flying on soyuz and boeing would use it as an excuse to delay SLS even further

[Anonymous No.12102891]

it's going up

[Anonymous No.12102894]

>>12102841
new meme

[Anonymous No.12102896]

>>12102890
NASA, not boeing, y’all get what I mean

[Anonymous No.12102897]

>>12102879
>any decade now bros!
That applies to this too. It's just crazy that the Russians inherited some of the best space flight technology in the world yet they fail to use it.

[Anonymous No.12102899]

>>12102841
>It’ll take an SLS to launch anything to a lunar depot, anyway
Falcon Heavy will be launching two of the modules and has a resupply contract.

[Anonymous No.12102901]

>351 posts
>78 posters
Lmao

[Anonymous No.12102902]

IT'S GOING UPPPPPPP

[Anonymous No.12102903]

>>12102875
What is she thinking bros

[Anonymous No.12102904]

>>12102890
What's ironic is that while NASA (mainly Jim and his supporters) fought hard to have two equal providers for commercial crew despite Congress wanting solely Boeing, now NASA has to keep Boeing in the contract or else they have to go back on their arguments on the benefits of having two providers.

[Anonymous No.12102906]

>>12102896
no no, you were correct the first time

[Anonymous No.12102907]

>>12102901
you did this like yesterday bro

[Anonymous No.12102909]

>>12102901
>i dont understand /sci/
Here is your (you) retard.

[Anonymous No.12102910]

>>12102901
What did my liver mean by this

[Anonymous No.12102911]

>>12102901
I have posted 30 times in this thread

[Anonymous No.12102912]

>>12102901
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12102913]

>>12102897
>It's just crazy that the Russians inherited some of the best space flight technology in the world yet they fail to use it.
Russia has been experiencing severe brain drain since 1991. This broke the chain of apprenticeships that was the backbone of Soviet technical training. Additionally, many of their spaceflight programs were distributed to various other SSRs for political reasons (exactly like SLS contractors el oh el), and so when the Soviet Union collapsed they lost those. They'd have reannexed Kazakhstan outright if the Kazakhs tried to deny them access to Baikonur.

Also, the last fully Soviet trained cohort is going to age out of military service in six years. Expect Russia to completely implode in 2027.

[Anonymous No.12102915]

>>12102904
JOBS
O
B
S

[Anonymous No.12102917]

ENCELADUS
WHEN

[Anonymous No.12102919]

>>12102904
they could bring Sierra Nevada or Blue in once cargo Dreamchaser/New Glenn flies

[Anonymous No.12102920]

>Orion? nah, here's your lunar capsule bro

[Anonymous No.12102921]

>>12102913
god i love the free market

[Anonymous No.12102923]

>>12102906
Lmao
>>12102904
Yeah maybe i’m reading between the lines here but it seems like Jim is done with boeing’s shit. He’s just not in a position to say anything. He looks like charlie visiting willy wonka’s factory when he visits spacex

[Anonymous No.12102925]

>>12102875
How can I get a qt russian cosmonaut?

[Anonymous No.12102926]

>>12102917
Ok encel.

[Anonymous No.12102928]

WHEN

[Anonymous No.12102929]

>>12102923
>Yeah maybe i’m reading between the lines here but it seems like Jim is done with boeing’s shit.
His embrace of fixed price per ton cargo contracts for lunar delivery and stating that NASA is moving away from cost plus was a giant neon sign to that effect.

[Anonymous No.12102930]

I just want to see the colossal seethe if Elong gets to the moon before Nasa. Or even better, if he gets to mars before Nasa gets to the moon.
The congress. Alabama. Twitter. Those cheap woke news sites.
Holly shit. Guys we have to get that angry-drive engine thing working soon.

[Anonymous No.12102931]

>>12102920
Just put the Orion stack on an expendable FH, Orion to lunar injection for 150 million, versus 2 billion per launch for SLS

[Anonymous No.12102932]

>>12102929
>fixed price per ton cargo contracts
Nice.

[Anonymous No.12102934]

>>12102917
>>12102928
We need to build six colonies on that rock named Habitat Primus, Habitat Secundus, etc. so that "Hab Sextus, Enceladus" is a real place in the solar system.

[Anonymous No.12102935]

>>12102929
When he announced the three candidates my jaw dropped when I saw starship, and when he announced cost-per-ton I almost shit myself. Big jim is the best thing to happen to NASA in a long time.

[Anonymous No.12102939]

>>12102931
>150 million, versus 2 billion
Don't forget that Nasa is paying for the R&D too. Are we at 10 billion yet?

[Anonymous No.12102940]

>>12102929
How did someone so based become admin of NASA? Especially when compared to Charles "SLS is real" Bolden.

[Anonymous No.12102942]

>>12102940
Donald Trump knows how to hire people.

[Anonymous No.12102944]

>>12102940
I think Trump just liked his double chin or something.

[Anonymous No.12102945]

>>12102940
Donald Trump likes three kinds of people:
1. his friends and family
2. people who know how to stroke his ego
3. people who know how to get shit done
it appears that Big Jim is #3

[Anonymous No.12102947]

>>12102931
Wait holy shit. The weight of Bolden’s stupid “SLS is real” comment just dawned on me. We could have started the entire Artemis program already... the second Elon launched his Tesla into space we had a rocket with the capability to being orion, gateway, and other landers to the Moon. Literally FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK boeing

[Anonymous No.12102952]

>>12102940
A bunch of people seethed because Big Jim was a climate change denier, but I guess that didn't affect his ability to actually run NASA at all lmao

[Anonymous No.12102953]

>>12102947
Now you know why that little Bolden quote a meme.

[Anonymous No.12102957]

>>12102947
>"Let's be very honest again," Bolden said in a 2014 interview. "We don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry."

[Anonymous No.12102959]

>>12102952
Yeah vox and vice and other liberal lügenpresse journos were trying to act like it was the end of the world. But iirc Jim has done a 180 and now even tried to get more earth observation satellites in orbit. And I think liberals have come around to really liking him. Tbh his chances of staying in the administrator position is very high no matter who the POTUS is

[Anonymous No.12102962]

>>12102942
>>12102944
>>12102945

[Anonymous No.12102965]

>>12102959
>lügenpresse
lmao Von Braun wouldn’t stand for these shitty hit pieces. Fake news. Sad!

[Anonymous No.12102966]

>>12102962
Trump is selling official hats and shirts with that line now.

https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/make-space-great-again-hat

[Anonymous No.12102970]

>>12102959
>Tbh his chances of staying in the administrator position is very high no matter who the POTUS is
Nah. Biden doesn’t give a shit about space, and Boeing will try to lobby for a more traditionally-corrupt administrator.

[Anonymous No.12102972]

>>12102952
>A bunch of people seethed because Big Jim was a climate change denier, but I guess that didn't affect his ability to actually run NASA at all lmao
He changed opinion long ago. And he did make it clear that humans are responsible for climate change when appointed to head nasa.
Some woke outlets made a big fud around it because of his previous opinion.

https://www.wired.com/story/nasas-jim-bridenstine-agrees-humans-are-responsible-for-climate-change/

[Anonymous No.12102973]

Could you build a rocket just from McMaster parts?

[Anonymous No.12102975]

>>12102973
no

[Anonymous No.12102976]

>>12102973
yes

[Anonymous No.12102977]

>>12102901
What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.12102982]

>>12102952
Jimmy change his views on climate change after getting to the top. Also his boner for space commerce putted him at odds with the boeing shills that plague the congress.

[Anonymous No.12102986]

>>12102973
maybe

[Anonymous No.12102993]

So are the ruskies and chinese actually going to persue a moon base? Is the Blyat Dragon supposed to be an orion competitor? Thank god for starship bros, once again no one will be able to compete with the US. I’m just glad elon didn’t start up his business with canada or russia or something

[Anonymous No.12102997]

>>12102886
I too want a spacefu

[Anonymous No.12102999]

>>12102993
I can only see half her face, but she a CUTE. Not even trying to shitpost, that room probably reeks of vodka

[Anonymous No.12103004]

>>12102993
>Blyat Dragon
kek

[Anonymous No.12103012]

>>12102993
It's supposed to be, but I very much doubt it actually exists. This is a classic combloc "Potemkin Village" trick.

[Anonymous No.12103013]

>>12102993
Xi will wait until the burgers get something going on Luna so he can copy that, and Russia is a Colombia with nukes, so don't expect anything from them.

[Anonymous No.12103019]

>>12102886
>Tfw no astrolass

[Anonymous No.12103022]

>>12102439
It's like the pornography of the art that is trolling. It's cheap, easy to make by anyone, ubiquitous, and guaranteed to get reactions.

[Anonymous No.12103024]

>>12102934

[Anonymous No.12103027]

>>12103019
Is the plural of astrolabe astrolabia?

[Anonymous No.12103029]

>>12101692
holy shit those RCS pops and turbopump whines make my dick HARD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn81Mr1vyUE

[Anonymous No.12103030]

>>12102439
In order to troll the most amount of people you have to go to the lowest common denominator. Everyone dislikes nazis and racism, so doing so is what will piss off the largest number of people.

[Anonymous No.12103037]

>>12103027
According to Wiktionary it's astrolabes.

[Anonymous No.12103040]

falcon 9 source code released so we can implement it in kOS when?

[Anonymous No.12103044]

bloop

[Anonymous No.12103046]

>>12103040
It's three Linux machines running the same code in parallel and checking each other's decisions so you'd need a pretty beefy hypervisor setup to mimic that.

[Anonymous No.12103055]

blap

[Anonymous No.12103059]

>>12103046
What does /g/ think of this?

[Anonymous No.12103069]

>>12103059
The /g/entoomen love it, the applefa/g/s and /g/amers are furious.

[Anonymous No.12103078]

>>12103046
>checking each other's decisions so you'd need a pretty beefy hypervisor setup to mimic that.
Running 3 vms is easy. How do they do the checking? Just network?
Also how do you know that is what is happening?

[Anonymous No.12103079]

>>12103069
I know they probably test the shit out of it, but I wonder if there are conditions that could lead the three systems to freak the fuck out and not know what to do a la ariane.

[Anonymous No.12103084]

>>12103078
He just knows those things.

[Anonymous No.12103088]

>>12103078
>How do they do the checking? Just network?
IIRC yes.
>Also how do you know that is what is happening?
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/9243/what-computer-and-software-is-used-by-the-falcon-9/9446#9446

>>12103079
>but I wonder if there are conditions that could lead the three systems to freak the fuck out and not know what to do a la ariane.
Cosmic rays flip different bits in each of the three systems to create deadlocks enough times in a row that they can't make decisions and the rocket misses orbit. This is wildly unlikely, which is why the system works.

[Anonymous No.12103097]

>>12103088
>Cosmic rays flip different bits in each of the three systems to create deadlocks
Yeah while the chances of that aren’t zero, for all intents and purposes it’s zero. You’d be one unlucky SOB to be on a dragon when this happens (though it has manual, so...)

[Anonymous No.12103104]

>>12102966
Looks like I'm buying another hat

[Anonymous No.12103114]

>>12103078
>Running 3 vms is easy
Holy fucking shit, 3 vms is easy as hell, but do you have any idea what the hardware is on those 3 computers?
Stop talking out your ass you retard.

[Anonymous No.12103121]

>people unironically and genuinely argue as if there are people claiming that we don't have to worry about climate change because we can just go to mars and try to imply this position is commonplace among spacers. despite the act that the lead mars man is maximum gay for clean energy
i fucking HATE this.

[Anonymous No.12103123]

>>12103114
Wild card: it’s just 3 raspberry pi’s running scaled up ksp code

[Anonymous No.12103124]

>>12103046
Apparently Elon copied Japan...

[Anonymous No.12103130]

>>12103124
No, it's just a CS thing. Three is the minimum number of nodes you need for consensus algorithms to work properly.

[Anonymous No.12103135]

>>12103114
KSP doesn't have a timestep small enough for the full Falcon 9 hardware/software package to make sense

[Anonymous No.12103142]

>>12103123
>raspberry pi’s
Funny enough, Raspberry Pis have been launched in amateur rockets and are known to fail under high G force/shock/vibrations. They're hobby toys and not friendly to harsh environments

[Anonymous No.12103147]

>>12103124
>>12103130
I'm pretty certain it was a joke

[Anonymous No.12103149]

>>12103142
That's what the RPi compute module is for. You have one SODIMM interface for everything and the module can be screwed in place.

>>12103147
4ASS prides itself on taking stupid ideas and posts seriously.

[Anonymous No.12103151]

>>12103121
People have this weird group mentality. Like if we have people working on going to mars, that somehow makes it impossible to work on fixing climate change. It's so bizarre. Like how many people are working the space industry as a whole? Like half a million or something. And somehow because those half million, a mere fraction of the US population, is working on one thing then that means we can't do the other. It's just baffling elementary school logic.

[Anonymous No.12103153]

>>12103142
How the fuck did the saturn v even work without failing? hand woven electronics in a ring around the booster? I swear, that was the craziest generation of engineers and scientists

[Anonymous No.12103164]

>>12103151
I mean, these people are literally NPC’s. They want to complain all day about how there’s “too much money in human spaceflight”, but they don’t give a fuck about geologists and climate scientists getting paid. They will only be happy when they can wake up and drink their onions latte and see that kurzgezat uploaded a “the earth is finally cooling!” video

[Anonymous No.12103165]

>>12103151
It's because nobody knows what the government is actually spending money on. Space is high profile so people assume it's where the money goes. The reason politicians like to talk about discretionary spending is that if you include "mandatory" spending something like 2/3 of the entire federal budget is debt service or free shit for niggers and boomers.

[Anonymous No.12103167]

>>12103153
Russians used hand woven electronics until 2000s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBIhzEZkWEA

[Anonymous No.12103169]

>>12103114
How does it feel to be retarded? The anon provided source here: >>12103088
It is 3 dual core x86 computers. Flight calculations are not hard for modern cpus.
The anon also said that you would need a "beef" hypervisor, which makes no sense. Even if it was an weird architecture, if it runs linux then kvm/qemu can emulate it.
Not that you need to run those 6 cores. One would be just fine since you are using it on your home computer and not on a rocket. Change the "string" to compare the result of one core against itself so the result is always "correct".

Stop talking out your ass you retard.

[Anonymous No.12103171]

>>12103149
>RPi compute module is for
That has a better chance to work, but I'm cautious that the SMD SOC chip itself would bust loose. IIRC, its a BGA package, and those aren't vibration friendly either

[Anonymous No.12103172]

>>12103149
>4ASS prides itself on taking stupid ideas and posts seriously.
BREAKING NEWS: Private Space Organization 4ASS Sends Man On Moon To Steal Flag From Chinese Base

[Anonymous No.12103174]

>>12103169
>Even if it was an weird architecture, if it runs linux then kvm/qemu can emulate it.
Hey dingus, what do you think running the game as a VM with three nested dual core Linux VMs would do for system requirements?

[Anonymous No.12103176]

>>12103164
>geologists
lmao
Hi geology anon.

[Anonymous No.12103179]

Y’all i’m no expert but i’m pretty sure the autists and young slaves at spacex have lost weeks of sleep making sure the hardware of falcon 9 doesn’t shake loose lmao

[Anonymous No.12103181]

>>12103164
I'm so sick of negativity. Like i know that's sort of a lame statement, but people get so emboldened by being negative all the time, and it blinds them from the truth so often. A big reason 2020 has been "such an awful year" is because people are so caught up in the fact that they "totally know how fucked everything is", when the reality is that things are going more or less ok.

[Anonymous No.12103184]

>MFW they've already started building SN11

[Anonymous No.12103191]

>>12103174
idk, im not a nerd lol

[Anonymous No.12103192]

>Ex Terra ad Marte
>Ex Terra ad Marti
Anyone know the correct version?

[Anonymous No.12103196]

>>12103192
Cinco de Mayo ad Mardi Gras

[Anonymous No.12103197]

>>12103153
LOL, you have no clue about electronics design I see.
There are different methods of soldering/securing chips and other components onto a pcb. A through-hole chip will hold 100 times better than a surface-mount chip.
Electronics experience some nasty G force and vibrations during launch, so engineers have specific standards to follow when designing electrical systems for high stress systems. Its very similar to electronics in a jet plane too.

Also, once in space, they have to be protected from stray radiation.
Here is a page from Microchip, a supplier I've used:
https://www.microchip.com/design-centers/aerospace-and-defense/radiation-hardened

[Anonymous No.12103198]

>>12103184
I usually don’t talk or cheer or anything during launch streams, but i’m pretty sure i’m going to be yelling at my computer screen when we see the first orbital test

[Anonymous No.12103199]

>>12103184
OOPS ALL STARSHIPS

[Anonymous No.12103202]

>>12103174
I once again come to ask you:
>How does it feel to be retarded?

>Hey dingus, what do you think running the game
No one talked about any game. But you can get almost bare metal performance on games with GPU pass through. You can also run just the flight computer on a VM (which you don't need because it is x86) and pipe the results to the game through networking.

>as a VM with three nested dual core Linux VMs would do for system requirements?
They are not nested you illiterate subhuman and you don't need to run the 6 cores for a game, as I explained.

Stop talking you illiterate subhuman, go back to complaining about how automation steals jobs, fucking your cousin in a swamp or whatever you were doing before.

[Anonymous No.12103204]

>>12103197
No lol. As >>12103176 deduced, I am a simple rockfag. Thanks for the info though.
>>12103167
Also interesting.

[Anonymous No.12103206]

>>12103202
>No one talked about any game
Holy shit, anon. This ENTIRE DISCUSSION has been about how hard it would be to set this up inside of KSP.

[Anonymous No.12103207]

>>12103192
Marte.

[Anonymous No.12103208]

>>12103199
where's photoshop anon

[Anonymous No.12103210]

>>12103207
Ta, lad.

[Anonymous No.12103211]

>>12103165
This. Also the average burger overestimate the amount of foreign aid that the gov pays(which is mostly used to buy military hardware from USA companies) by a factor of 20, and not even get started with the shit such as the nuclear panic, despite coal being basically dumping more radioactive in the air in a month than Chernobyl since 1986.
>>12103181
Its a combination of a shitload of things, but I think(hope) shit will improve next year, maybe.

[Anonymous No.12103213]

>>12103192
Ad takes the accusative.
>Marte
What word are you looking for?

[Anonymous No.12103214]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-exploration-boeing-exclusive/exclusive-boeing-to-face-independent-ethics-probe-over-lunar-lander-bid-document-idUSKBN2603F2
ha ha, time for boing

[Anonymous No.12103215]

>>12103211
Why the fuck are climate crusaders anti-nuclear? I’m pretty sure the green new deal explicitly wanted to ban nuclear. Are liberals retarded?

[Anonymous No.12103217]

>>12103206
I once again come to ask you:
>How does it feel to be retarded?

You are still wrong, as I explained.
The vms are not nested;
You don't need the 6 cores for a game but just one;
There are consumer CPUs with well over 6 cores;
It is x86 so it doesn't even need a VM;
Games can run fine on VMs.

Pls kys.

[Anonymous No.12103220]

>>12103215
>Why the fuck are climate crusaders anti-nuclear? I’m pretty sure the green new deal explicitly wanted to ban nuclear. Are liberals retarded?

Because the end goal is the destruction of the West or the destruction of humanity in general, with little to no in between. They're not just retarded, they're malicious.

[Anonymous No.12103221]

>>12103192
>>12103213
Oh, I'm stupid. Mars.
It's Martem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lczHvB3Y9s

[Anonymous No.12103223]

KSP doesn't even have radiation failures retards, you can just strip out all that bullshit and run it as a single kOS script

[Anonymous No.12103224]

>>12103214
Omae wa mou shindeiru. Boeing fucked up and I hope they get the punishment they deserve

[Anonymous No.12103226]

What should the name of the first operational Starship be /sfg/? My contribution
>Starship Final Frontier

[Anonymous No.12103228]

>>12103223
more like kys script

[Anonymous No.12103230]

>>12103226
Satanichia chan

[Anonymous No.12103232]

>>12103226
pillar of autumn

[Anonymous No.12103234]

>>12103215
Populist anti-nuclear discourse, which was heavily fueled by the sword of Damocles over everyone heads that was the cold war, and ironically big oil and big coal dismissing anything that wasn't themselves because of "muh job".

[Anonymous No.12103235]

The asteroid belt will become the new rust belt in the 2200s when Mercury is destroyed for metals to make a Dyson swarm, and the belter scum will elect the TrumpNet AI into power to bring back their jobs

[Anonymous No.12103237]

>>12103226
VENUSIAN 1
OOOOOoooo

[Anonymous No.12103239]

>>12103217
You know much less than you think you do. The systems do need to be nested inside the game for the game to have control over them, which means the game needs to be a VM itself to have access to their memories, and you do need virtualization for x86 on x86 because they're running full Linux kernels rather than just single application binaries. If your argument is "lol well you can just have the VMs be black boxes and communicate with the game", then skip the VMs entirely and use high level emulation of sending the flight strings based on existing game engine data. The problem is not core count but context switch penalty. Each single context switch from kernel to hypervisor to host system (game) adds hundreds of microseconds of latency, and for juggling three VMs and a game those context switches will make the game perceptibly slower unless you have at least ten physical cores (six for VM, two for game, one for kernel, one extra) and enough RAM for all the VMs' allocations (probably at least 32GB), so you need either a high end Ryzen with 12+ cores, or you need a $4000+ workstation build. AND THAT'S ASSUMING KSP DOESN'T LEAK ANY MEMORY WITH THIS SETUP.

tl;dr kys fgt

[Anonymous No.12103241]

>>12103226
Challenger 2.0

[Anonymous No.12103242]

>>12103226
Big Fucking Rocket

[Anonymous No.12103243]

>>12103226
I’m not too big on Heart of Gold, and Enterprise isn’t cool anymore like it was 10-20 years ago. I’ve given it lots of thought and I think Von Braun would honestly be the best. Not only is it a great homage to a man ahead of his time, but it would generate enough cope to feed me for a while

[Anonymous No.12103245]

>>12103204
>rockfag
Thats still pretty awesome, we each have our own thing we are good at, I just happen to be an EE.
>Thanks for the info though.
No problem, I've learned it the hard way myself, didn't mean to sound like such a dick. PCB design is insane.

[Anonymous No.12103246]

>>12103151
>fixing climate change
That's hundreds or thousands of years away, unless you're referring to reducing pollution which is a noble cause and should be managed better but often gets blown out of proportion and conflated with global temperature changes by western climate alarmists

[Anonymous No.12103248]

>>12103226
YEET

[Anonymous No.12103249]

>>12103226
Fuck Shelby.

[Anonymous No.12103252]

>>12103226
SS SLS (Suck Long Schlong)

[Anonymous No.12103254]

>>12103226
Untitled Space Craft

[Anonymous No.12103257]

>>12103254
Unlimited Braaap Works

[Anonymous No.12103260]

>>12103226
Lightning to the Nations
you can do Sucking My Love and It's Electric next

[Anonymous No.12103264]

>>12103254
Untitled Spacecraft is a really good name

[Anonymous No.12103268]

>>12103239
Holly shit you cannot be this illiterate about computers. You have not even had CS101.
At this point you are obviously regurgitating garbage you saw on /g/ because you don't want to be wrong online. Given that, I will not bother educating you and will go on with my life.

[Anonymous No.12103271]

>>12103254
New New Project (2)

[Anonymous No.12103276]

>>12103249
Gotta name a Starship after every person that has stood in SpaceX's way

[Anonymous No.12103278]

>>12103226
F-URF

[Anonymous No.12103283]

>>12103239
lmao this kid is in junior high. Reported for underage

[Anonymous No.12103298]

>>12103276
Starship Pedo Guy

[Anonymous No.12103301]

>>12103243
they would never let that happen

[Anonymous No.12103305]

>>12103276
SS Eberhard

[Anonymous No.12103304]

>>12103164
>calls others NPCs
>entire post is just /pol/ memes

[Anonymous No.12103308]

>>12102993
>blyat dragon
>squats on the moon

[Anonymous No.12103312]

>>12103283
Makes me think of that video of fat kid shilling applel in the class room to impress some girls.
>you don't even know something arm cortex something satania pls step on my balls while i call you mommy something

[Anonymous No.12103315]

>>12103226
The Alluring and Intoxicating Aroma of Elon's Musk

[Anonymous No.12103317]

>>12103315

[Anonymous No.12103319]

>>12103304
Do you have a point you were trying to make anon

[Anonymous No.12103323]

spaceflight please

[Anonymous No.12103327]

>>12103226
STARSHIP DISCOVERY ONE

[Anonymous No.12103331]

I know it went nowhere, was supposed to be an SSTO, and that NASA didn't like it, but it was incredibly cool and I like it.

[Anonymous No.12103334]

>>12103226
Big Jim's Big Balls

[Anonymous No.12103339]

>>12103331
>STILL no tapering and chamfer/fillet available on all procedural parts
just about to fuckin snap bros

[Anonymous No.12103340]

>>12103331
Yes. Agreed.

[Anonymous No.12103341]

>>12103331
it was a good idea pretending to be a bad idea in order to get funding

[Anonymous No.12103350]

>>12103341
this fucking timeline man i swear

[Anonymous No.12103366]

>>12103226
I think Blood in some language would be cool. Homage to the color of mars, representing man's shared heritage, sacrifice of those before us.

[Anonymous No.12103372]

>>12103366
could you get away with naming them after Build engine games?
I don't think Randy would let you name one Duke Nukem 3D

[Anonymous No.12103375]

>>12103366
nice try satanist, but mars is a christian planet

[Anonymous No.12103383]

>>12103339
Coulda sworn some modder was working on a project to allow near absolute shape customization for procedural parts which would basically allow you to make anything you could think.

[Anonymous No.12103393]

>>12103151
You can’t “fix climate change” because it’s not an issue.

[Anonymous No.12103396]

>>12103375
anyone who thinks Mars will be anything but irreligious is delusional.

[Anonymous No.12103401]

>>12103396
>Mars will have a birthrate of 0.5 children per woman and an average age of 60

Lol good luck with that. Atheism kills.

[Anonymous No.12103405]

You were born two generations away from immortality.

[Anonymous No.12103409]

>>12103393
>The overwhelming majority of scientists are wrong but the one whos right is your cousin on facebook whos profile picture is his truck with a "NASA LIES" bumper sticker and who thinks vaccines cause autism and that global warming is a chinese hoax

[Anonymous No.12103412]

>>12103409
>Unironically making an appeal to authority fallacy

The world won’t end because the sea level rose a meter in sixty years. You are delusional.

[Anonymous No.12103416]

>>12103409
Seems like you touched a wound, anon.

[Anonymous No.12103417]

>>12103401
People will have kids if they need to. Mars certainly won't be cultist smoothbrains worshipping a dead jew on a stick.

[Anonymous No.12103422]

>>12103412
It's not a fallacy to believe the side with evidence.

[Anonymous No.12103423]

>>12103417
That's right, it'll be muslim

[Anonymous No.12103425]

Are amateur rocket clubs worth it in terms of gaining experience around high power rocketry?
gif unrelated

[Anonymous No.12103427]

What's the chance of SpaceX starlink partnering with Google voice to meet FCC voice calling requirement.

[Anonymous No.12103433]

>>12103405
>you were born in the generation that allows men to pound other men's bussy
Makes up for the lack of immortality.

[Anonymous No.12103436]

>>12103422
The climate is changing (and that's a good thing)

[Anonymous No.12103437]

>>12103405
Reproducing is immortality

[Anonymous No.12103442]

>>12103427
None. It is only a matter of having low latency and reliability. There are many good open source implementations of voip protocols.

[Anonymous No.12103445]

>>12103422
The environment is gay.

[Anonymous No.12103447]

>>12103433
based
>>12103437
>retardation
It is okay if you want to reproduce but don't pretend it gives continuity to your consciousness.
>b-but in a way
Don't.

[Anonymous No.12103449]

>>12103445
finally a good take. i hate all these doomers and libtards. even if climate change is real, why would you want to fight it? think of how much more interesting the world would be.

[Anonymous No.12103450]

>>12103417
>People will have kids if they need to

But they don’t “need” to. You can live your life childless and absorb yourself in soulless hedonism and work, then die, which is exactly what many westerners do already.

[Anonymous No.12103452]

Post aesthetic spaceflight hardware.

[Anonymous No.12103454]

>>12103422
There is no evidence that climate change will be overtly dangerous to humans, and there’s literally nothing we could actually do about it anyway.

Did you know that the Earth has become significantly greener over the last few decades due to higher levels of CO2?

[Anonymous No.12103456]

>>12103450
He's probably a Jew trying to prevent white people from having a safe haven.

[Anonymous No.12103461]

>Sorry, payment is required to access our exclusive live stream: 'Live Footage of First Crewed Mission to Mars'.

[Anonymous No.12103462]

>>12103452

[Anonymous No.12103465]

>>12103456
Secular societies, absolutely 100% of the time, have negative birthrates and more depression.

[Anonymous No.12103467]

>>12103462

[Anonymous No.12103472]

>>12103465
>>12103456
None of this is an argument about whether god exists or not or whether there will be more christians or atheists on mars.

[Anonymous No.12103473]

>>12103447
Sorry that you couldn't find a woman willing to bear your children lol. Doesn't mean the rest of us won't be able to live on without the need for AI surrogates or gene therapy

[Anonymous No.12103474]

>>12103467

[Anonymous No.12103480]

>>12103474

[Anonymous No.12103482]

>>12103472
If Mars is “atheist”, there will never be a Martian colony, only an outpost sustained purely by immigration. Whether or not religion is true is irrelevant. Lol

[Anonymous No.12103485]

>>12103473
Reproducing doesn't give continuity to your consciousness. You are just making mental gymnastics to justify something you want. It is okay to want it, but the mental gymnastics just tell that you are dumb.

[Anonymous No.12103487]

>>12103480

[Anonymous No.12103488]

So what do you think Big Jim will announce tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.12103490]

>>12103482
it won't be atheist, it will be muslim you absolute retard

[Anonymous No.12103491]

>>12103480
>Directly over the united states
What did ivan mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12103492]

>>12103482
That is not the discussion. I would be happy with importing highly educated people from earth and letting the brainlets here to rot.

[Anonymous No.12103493]

>>12103488
#CancelBoeing

[Anonymous No.12103494]

>>12103488
Some gay SLS/Artemis shit.

[Anonymous No.12103495]

>>12103488
literally nothing

[Anonymous No.12103499]

>>12103215
Can't make money of climate change hype if climate change is fixed. Nuclear is a huge problem if you're trying to perpetuate climate change so you can sell books/merch/get funding/etc.

[Anonymous No.12103500]

human for scale

[Anonymous No.12103501]

>>12103491
Ivan wanted to land in Nashville.

[Anonymous No.12103503]

>>12103452
Challenger is the peak of aesthetic spaceflight disasters

[Anonymous No.12103504]

>>12103492
>Miserable old childless degenerates sitting in a bunker all day
>95% of deaths are suicide

[Anonymous No.12103506]

>>12103487

[Anonymous No.12103507]

>>12103504
um, sounds like a badass boomer holiday

[Anonymous No.12103508]

>>12103504
nice, I'm glad Mars was so successful at reducing gun violence

[Anonymous No.12103509]

Life is meaningless without God. Reminder to go to Mass every week anon

[Anonymous No.12103511]

>>12103503
That bifurcation

[Anonymous No.12103512]

>>12103506
this is so badass to see up close. if you guys are around tucson you better go

[Anonymous No.12103513]

>>12103492
>moving to mars
>smart choice
more like mars will take all of the brainlets from earth

[Anonymous No.12103514]

>>12103503
AHHHH IM GONNA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST

[Anonymous No.12103519]

Hey guys, I'm curious what you all would think happen if green run happens and sls BLOWS THE FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.12103520]

>>12103503
Reminder that the engineers who argued against launching were fired while the management who approved the launch were left alone.

[Anonymous No.12103526]

>>12103519
First launch delayed until 2030, and the budget balloons to $30 billion.

[Anonymous No.12103529]

>>12103520
All MBAs are a drain on society

[Anonymous No.12103531]

>>12103519
>Haha guess we can't launch for another 4 years guy's :^)
>don't forget to pay us though, remember those jobs

[Anonymous No.12103534]

>>12103503
>kills 7 people, including a teacher while every school in America, and maybe the west is playing it for their students live
Whoops

[Anonymous No.12103538]

>>12103503
lmao hot take

[Anonymous No.12103541]

>Twenty airmen assigned to the 16th Expeditionary Space Control Flight and the 609th Air Operations Center at Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar, transferred into the Space Force on Sept. 1
This makes them the first officially deployed Space Force personnel

[Anonymous No.12103540]

>>12103534
>"Hey, maybe we should move away from those SRBs? We can use those F-1s."
>nah, just blame those people who tried to stop the launch for not trying harder and keep things the same

[Anonymous No.12103546]

>>12103519
Trump would say something hilarious... like, it's all Obama's fault, and give Jim the D-word pass

[Anonymous No.12103547]

>>12103541
So is the Spaceforce and even bigger desk job than the Airforce?

[Anonymous No.12103548]

>>12103546
>the D-word pass
kkkkk anãozinho

[Anonymous No.12103549]

Cute

[Anonymous No.12103550]

>>12103547
The only military force without combat troops...

[Anonymous No.12103553]

>>12103549
Her head looks like the top of the shuttle main tank behind her.

[Anonymous No.12103556]

>>12103546
Holy fuck if that thing FUBAR's we gotta send our best SLS meme to don jr. and get Trump to tweet it

[Anonymous No.12103558]

>>12103534
>tfw no timeline where big bird died on live national tv

[Anonymous No.12103559]

>>12103549
I would lick the ISS toilet after she took a dump

[Anonymous No.12103561]

>>12103556
Which is the best?

[Anonymous No.12103566]

>>12103561
probably curb your development

[Anonymous No.12103569]

>>12103556
Dump SLS memes.

[Anonymous No.12103570]

>>12103559
>not cristoforetti

[Anonymous No.12103571]

>>12103569

[Anonymous No.12103576]

>SLS explodes on the test stand and sets back SLS another 5-10 years
>congress compensates by giving SLS an additional 5 billion dollars, and cutting Commercial Crew, and Artemis

[Anonymous No.12103577]

>>12103571

[Anonymous No.12103578]

>>12103561
If shelby were a democrat this one >>12102953 would be great. He might still tweet it if we sell it as a "horrible business deal, probably the worst like, ever." Anyone got anything else?

[Anonymous No.12103582]

>>12103576
good thing we have elong

[Anonymous No.12103583]

>>12103577

[Anonymous No.12103585]

>>12103577
Might have to add europa clipper to that list soon. I don't have any sources, but I remember Burger tweeting something about how they might need to take instruments off of Clipper to save money (and they might not be able to survive the shaking of SLS)

[Anonymous No.12103586]

>>12103570
I would lick all the lesbian ISS ass, none are safe

[Anonymous No.12103591]

>>12103585
Really? They're neutering a flagship probe so it can launch on an overpriced recycling project that might seriously damage it?

[Anonymous No.12103597]

If you see anyone here using the 'd' word let me know.
I want this to be a safe space for american jobs.

[Anonymous No.12103601]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_spacefarers
look at all these HIGH TEST JAWS dude goddamn

[Anonymous No.12103602]

Am considering making /sfg/ archived at Page 10. Autism secured.

[Anonymous No.12103605]

bruh

[Anonymous No.12103606]

[Anonymous No.12103610]

how can i get this much testosterone bros

[Anonymous No.12103616]

>>12103591
As far as I remember yes. There were talks of cannibalizing Europa clipper's budget for SLS. I want to burn boeing's headquarters down in minecraft y'know?

[Anonymous No.12103617]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceLaunchSystem/comments/ibkpbt/serious_question_about_the_sls_rocket/g1y2rt5/

>Starship doesn't exist yet, there are still a lot of unknowns involved in developing it, and there is currently no market for such a rocket. While the intention is for Starship to eventually launch for only a few million dollars, that is only after many thousands of launches. Starship will be in trouble if SpaceX runs out of funding and/or is unable to develop new markets that justify such a launch vehicle. SpaceX is building a mars rocket, the commercial aspect is just a means to that end.

>SLS and Orion exist now, should perform almost exactly as expected, and are funded because of the political desire to go back to the moon. There are no risks associated with the rocket and crew vehicle needing to be commercially viable. Re-usability is great for SpaceX because they're launching Falcon 9's 1-2 times a month. For NASA, the cost of re-usability would not be justified by only one or two launches per year.

>Last year, Musk predicted Starship would launch to orbit in the next six months. Six months later they were still blowing up fuel tanks on the ground. This is rocket science with a kind of rocket that has never been built before and is not something NASA can count on for a manned space program. Like the Falcon 9, Starship will need to demonstrate its reliability before being considered for manned missions.

[Anonymous No.12103618]

>>12103606
Actually a cutie
>>12103610
kek

[Anonymous No.12103621]

>>12103617

[Anonymous No.12103622]

>>12103606
Ok now this got me thinking. Who's the hottest astrogirl? I need to know

[Anonymous No.12103623]

>>12103610
Go to space, the longer you fly the higher your T goes.

[Anonymous No.12103629]

>>12103617
this can't be real

[Anonymous No.12103631]

>>12103569

[Anonymous No.12103632]

>>12103622
me

[Anonymous No.12103633]

>SLS and Orion exist now, should perform almost exactly as expected, and are funded because of the political desire to go back to the moon. There are no risks associated with the rocket and crew vehicle needing to be commercially viable. Re-usability is great for SpaceX because they're launching Falcon 9's 1-2 times a month. For NASA, the cost of re-usability would not be justified by only one or two launches per year.

Imagine being so NPC

[Anonymous No.12103635]

>>12103617
This is within "SLS is real" territory.

[Anonymous No.12103637]

>>12103632
do you play basketball?

[Anonymous No.12103638]

>>12103617
>SLS and Orion exist now
poetry

>should perform almost exactly as expected
that's like saying "we project that it will perform as projected"

[Anonymous No.12103642]

>>12103622
Anna Lee Fisher duh. Astromommy

[Anonymous No.12103644]

>>12103569

[Anonymous No.12103645]

>>12103617
>bitching that Musk didn't make his obviously aggressive timeline
HOW MANY FUCKING YEARS HAS SLS BEEN DELAYED GOOD SIR

[Anonymous No.12103647]

>>12103637
Yes, I can throw a ball in the direction of a metal ring.

[Anonymous No.12103648]

>>12103617
>Starship doesn't exist yet
>SLS and Orion exist now
If that's the case, then why aren't SLS and Orion flying now?

[Anonymous No.12103650]

>>12103633
Circlejerking for Starship is fun, but I reallylaugh my ass off when these threads break out into shitting on SLS

[Anonymous No.12103651]

>>12103642
she looks so young...IM IN

[Anonymous No.12103654]

>>12103638
GET THIS MAN A JOB AT BOEING

[Anonymous No.12103657]

Reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptPdlVAwFg

[Anonymous No.12103660]

>>12103648
*crickets chirping*

[Anonymous No.12103666]

>>12103617
SLS and Orion exist now, we've seen it in Michoud. Starship may pan out but for now, its just a paper rocket.

[Anonymous No.12103668]

>>12103044
>>12103055
So they're deorbiting some of them already?

[Anonymous No.12103669]

>>12103606
I’d rim Mae for six hours straight

[Anonymous No.12103670]

>>12103647
ok i coom in you

[Anonymous No.12103675]

>>12103657
Is there full video of the "SLS is real" clip out there?

[Anonymous No.12103685]

>>12103617
>>12103657
Any year now guise...

[Anonymous No.12103686]

>>12103685
>complains about Falcon Heavy not being equipped for deep space missions
>doesn't give Falcon Heavy deep space missions to justify equipping it for such
This is your brain on oldspace.

[Anonymous No.12103689]

>>12103668
the initial test launch of v0.9 Starlinks is being deorbited
there's a few dead sats from the first launch of real Starlinks that are deorbiting naturally

[Anonymous No.12103690]

Any manufacturing engineers in the thread?

[Anonymous No.12103694]

>>12103686
When you drink too much of the excess hydrogen

[Anonymous No.12103699]

*steals your lunch money*

[Anonymous No.12103706]

>>12103699
*steals your launch money*

[Anonymous No.12103710]

>steals your heart

[Anonymous No.12103712]

no memes, what's actually holding up the SLS at this point? it seems like they have a bunch of the stuff working and it's not like building rockets is something novel. so what's going on?

[Anonymous No.12103716]

>>12103685
https://youtu.be/YfAbIiKgCL0?t=69
>The first person to step foot on Mars is gonna get there on a Boeing rocket
Really?
>Yep

1 yr later.....

>Boeing Fires C.E.O. Dennis Muilenburg

[Anonymous No.12103720]

>>12103716
>CST100 Starliner will be the first american made capsule to get us back to the space station
oh no no no n o

[Anonymous No.12103722]

>>12103712
be patient :)

[Anonymous No.12103723]

>>12103712
>what's actually holding up the SLS at this point?
Honestly, no clue. My only guess is that they're triple checking everything before the test fire.
>so what's going on?
imo, busywork to fill out hours. There's no rush and funding is guaranteed, so why work faster than the bare minimum?

[Anonymous No.12103727]

>>12103712
good things are in store. big jim has big news, and he's gonna dump a donkey doodoo on our heads tomorrow. sls expedited, artemis 1 launching december 24th. screencap this

[Anonymous No.12103732]

>>12103712
Patience is a virtue anon. Oh- and so is an extra $5 billion, because we are doing cost-plus contracting so I'm not penalized for falling behind schedule ha ha. How did this happen??? Oh well money please.

[Anonymous No.12103737]

>>12103727
On what, a Falcon Heavy? That shit ain't gonna fly with congress hombre

[Anonymous No.12103741]

>>12103737
I mean............... it has a better chance of flying than SLS does.

[Anonymous No.12103745]

>>12103712
>What's holding up SLS
If SLS was finished on time, Boeing investors, and subcontractors would sue Boeing :D
Boeing, their investors, and their subcontractors want to make that sweet sweet development dosh, which you can't make if the program is complete, and only launched once a year

[Anonymous No.12103746]

>>12103699

[Anonymous No.12103747]

>>12103732
couldn't boeing theoretically just create delays indefinitely until congress cancels the program? (they won't) free 2 billion per year for doing nothing. they have huge incentive too since no one's gonna be buying planes from them

[Anonymous No.12103752]

>>12103747
:)

[Anonymous No.12103751]

>>12103746
imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.12103768]

>>12103745
>>12103747
are there any technical problems left before SLS can fly?

[Anonymous No.12103778]

>>12103768
Not enough money.

[Anonymous No.12103779]

>>12103768
no, the only hurdles are bureaucratic at this point. far worse than any technical problem

[Anonymous No.12103783]

>>12103768
Boeing probably needs the approval from NASA, thousands of contractors, and their board of directors and investors before they can do anything major on the project

[Anonymous No.12103784]

>>12102970
Not a single president gives a fuck about space. Trump is just trying to get clout from SpaceX's achievements

[Anonymous No.12103788]

>>12103747
I see you finally understand what's going on here
actually, I think they get some reward money for achieving milestones or maybe it's for good performance per year and NASA just hands it out every year I dunno

[Anonymous No.12103790]

>>12103784
Trump is probably the best thing to happen to space since JFK. Why? Because he didn’t decide to tear down what was already in place. Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, all cancelled the shit their predecessors did. Trump let go of the ARM program, but it was already dead when he came into office.

Also it’s cool that he recognizes SpaceX/Elon.

[Anonymous No.12103791]

>>12103778
Hahahah

[Anonymous No.12103794]

HE HOP

[Anonymous No.12103796]

>>12103784
I mean can you really blame him though

[Anonymous No.12103799]

>>12103790
This. Trump amazing things for space flight by doing nothing to it.

[Anonymous No.12103804]

>>12103790
The politics behind the bullshit that is the shuttle contractors have little to do with the President and more to do with Congress. A president doesn't really have much agency over NASA. All those past plans failed because there is no real drive to fund actual meaningful manned missions. Space Shuttle, Constellation, SLS and now Artemis are half assed projects that won't get anywhere.
SpaceX and maybe BO are the ones with the will to do meaningful things.

[Anonymous No.12103805]

>>12103790
>Biden/Harris fire Big Jim
>cancel/cripple Artemis program
>dismantle space force
>revert NASA to being the bitch of NOAA and the Air Force
I've seen the future, and it SUCKS

[Anonymous No.12103806]

>>12103805
>cancel/cripple Artemis program
Defunding SLS and Artemis will be amazing though. What NASA has done best is the science missions that squeak by through all the bullshit

[Anonymous No.12103811]

>>12103805
>Biden screws up NASA
>SpaceX continues on
>they send a man to Mars
>everyone else wonders why the US government can't do that
>they figure out why
>Democrats are painted as the party that tried to kill space flight
>not wanting to lose voters, the party changes it's line to be more pro-space flight than Kennedy
>Republicans respond with their own pro-space flight platform
Doesn't seem too bad.

[Anonymous No.12103815]

>>12103811
Why this retarded meme that Biden will fuck up NASA?

[Anonymous No.12103817]

>>12103805
Great thing that this shit ain't gonna happen. Biden/Harris literally endorsed and gave aid and funding to domestic terrorist organizations like antifa and have, together with corrupted DAs shielded them from prosecution and punishment for their crimes.
They should have just stayed in the ivory tower and condemned the bullshittery going on and pretended like it wasn't their party that instigated it, but they've handcuffed themselves now to radical elements who nobody else in the country likes, they're fucked, Biden is brain dead and Kamala must be sub 90 IQ to pull that shit and think it's going to benefit them.

[Anonymous No.12103818]

>>12103815
on average, dems are worse for space because muh why not spend money at home instead of in space

[Anonymous No.12103820]

>>12103817
Ok grandpa, stick to facebook

[Anonymous No.12103823]

>>12103818
NASA has been an afterthought of all administrations after Apollo. They lost interest and cancelled two Apollo missions because no one gave a shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.12103825]

>>12103815
Many reasons:
>Trump is associated with the latest space flight developments
>growing anti-space pro-"real problems" sentiments
>the last Democrat in the White House fucked up NASA
>Biden and Harris are oddly quiet about their opinions on space flight

[Anonymous No.12103830]

>>12103823
I'm talking from a funding standpoint

[Anonymous No.12103832]

>>12103825
the last dem in the white house pushed for commercial crew retard

[Anonymous No.12103844]

>will Biden fuck up NASA
No, I think he'll leave Commercial Crew and SLS alone because "those are Obama policies"
He'll leave Artemis alone because of National contracts
He'll probably get rid of Big Jim when Boeing lobbies to have his axed, which would be a minor disaster
>Will Kamala fuck up NASA
Yes 100% she gives no fucks about space, and will probably see space as a waste of money

[Anonymous No.12103846]

>>12103825
>Trump is associated with the latest space flight developments
Why? Commercial crew is an Obama era program. Even then the famous depots were from back then and Shelby fucked that up

>growing anti-space pro-"real problems" sentiments
Strawman.

>Braun served as chief technologist in 2010, back when the Obama administration created NASA's Space Technology program to foster just this kind of innovation in America's private space industry. It was a contentious time in space policy, as the White House was pushing for more funding for new space companies—and new space ideas such as fuel-storage depots—while Congress wanted to keep NASA in the rocket-building business.

>Eventually, Congress got the upper hand, putting NASA on track to build the large SLS rocket at a development cost of more than $2 billion a year. The rocket program mostly benefited the Alabama space center and was championed by Alabama State Senator Richard Shelby. The potential of in-space fuel storage and transfer threatened the SLS rocket because it would allow NASA to do some exploration missions with smaller and cheaper rockets. As one source explained at the time, "Senator Shelby called NASA and said if he hears one more word about propellant depots he’s going to cancel the Space Technology program."

>The line from other NASA officials was that as a technology, propellant depots were not ready for prime time. In 2011, former NASA Administrator Mike Griffin and current Executive Secretary of the National Space Council Scott Pace—both SLS advocates—wrote a withering criticism of the technology for Space News.

[Anonymous No.12103849]

>>12103820
Can't wait to watch you scream and cry in the street, just like last time.

[Anonymous No.12103856]

https://spacenews.com/northrop-grumman-to-terminate-omega-rocket-program/
OmegA is officially dead

[Anonymous No.12103863]

>>12103301
Musk is south african
he doesn't care what the long nose tribe thinks of him

[Anonymous No.12103866]

>>12103849
? I voted for trump fuckwit

[Anonymous No.12103870]

>>12103844
>Kamala
I can't get a read on her outside of identity politics. Does she have any record at all on space?
I agree with you in general though. Biden is probably fine, but Harris and her possible presidency down the line scare me.

[Anonymous No.12103877]

>>12103870
No, she's an ex-Prosecutor who's record indicates she's as crooked as a fucking crowbar, doesn't give a single shit about anything except what will grift will benefit her ego, career, and checkbook next. Now if she could somehow turn a profit and look good by endorsing space, she would, but she's much more comfortable with the IDpol retards so she'll be strongly for absolutely shredding every program not involved in gibsmedats. Biden is a non-entity, his brain already checked out six months ago, if he were to become president, what'd you'd really have is President Harris, which is exactly the DNC plan.

[Anonymous No.12103881]

>>12103863
im just saying they'd never let him name a ship after a nazi

[Anonymous No.12103882]

>>12103870
>Does she have any record at all on space?
Nothing beyond simple professional congratulations to NASA whenever they do something big.

[Anonymous No.12103885]

>>12102562
>mfw a massive untied science project with dozens of countries collaborating with hundreds of scientists, will get BTFO by a bunch of defense engineers

Say all you want about America, but let's not pretend the massive amount of funding for the military doesn't produce some great fucking results sometimes.

[Anonymous No.12103886]

>>12103877
maybe lthis is why big jim is appointing so many women, as insurance

[Anonymous No.12103890]

>>12103885
they're making a fission reactor now lol. but the sentiment is true, that a startup full of chucklefucks stand a good chance of lapping ITER. kinda like SpaceX and the launch industry

[Anonymous No.12103905]

>>12103886
Nothing would save him or NASA from those freaks except for the fact that I'm not even sure if they'll make it to November before doing something so heinous they completely torpedo their entire party and campaign along with it, and assuming they even make it to the debate stage Trump will flatten them like Starship flattened it's landing legs.

[Anonymous No.12103919]

>>12103881
That’s the beauty of being self-funded. If they get mad they’ll just look like a crying cabal. And if they pull the whole “NASA paid for an artemis lander and you can’t use government money to name a ship after a nazi” he can just retaliate by saying wernher worked for NASA. It’s the best name for a starship (not to mention von braun was the original elon who tried to see into the future)

[Anonymous No.12103925]

>>12103919
Besides who cares what those assholes think lmao

[Anonymous No.12103973]

is relativity space a meme?

[Anonymous No.12104051]

>>12103601
d-daddy...

[Anonymous No.12104067]

combat drones but in SPACE when?

[Anonymous No.12104068]

>>12103308
Needs a big ass adidas logo on the side lmao

[Anonymous No.12104081]

>>12103885
Yeah this is true. I want it on the record that we shit with SLS and want it cancelled, but it can still do more than any other country could. We are only mad because we also happen to have Starship. Even our shittiest rocket outpaces any other country.
(Also if another space race were to kick off between the USA and Chi-rus-com, every company could kick it into high gear and get to the moon/mars and tell everyone else to fuck off and not build a base in our territory)

[Anonymous No.12104083]

>>12102993
Russia doesn't have the money and the current Chinese state won't exist by the time serious moon bases are getting established by the US.

[Anonymous No.12104085]

Man Jim potentially losing his job hurts...he's GOOD at it! Even Reddit likes him now,and they originally acted like he would personally burn down NASA's climate science division.

If he is replaced I hope to god they keep him on as an advisor. Do we have nay idea about who Biden could tap to lead NASA?

[Anonymous No.12104106]

>>12104067
Probably not ever, larger ships can move for longer periods and thus achieve higher top speeds, they can carry larger power supplies and larger heat management equipment, they can carry larger more power hungry weapons which will have longer ranges.
"What about Aircraft carriers though?"
Well, a plane is essentially like the first stage for an A2A or A2G weapon, it's the booster for the missile or bomb. In space it will be easier to just streamline all of that down into a two stage weapon, a cruise stage and a terminal stage. The cruise stage will create an intercept with the target at high speeds and the terminal stage will perform last second guidance and avoidance to attempt to prevent itself being shot down before it can maximize it's destructive effect.
I figure even capital ships will end up being essentially flying torpedo magazines with low profile, low albedo hulls composed of radar absorbing composites backed by a layer of laser resisting material and a whipple shield. The only other weapon worth carrying will probably be large aperture NUV fiber lasers to counter enemy torpedoes.
Most space warships would probably be drones in-and-of themselves, because taking a hit is likely a death sentence, either your huge magazine of missiles cooks off and blows the ship into millions of coin sized chunks, or you get flashed with an NUV or XUV laser and instantaneously irradiated to death.

[Anonymous No.12104124]

>>12104085
I’m convinced Don will win, but in the shitty timeline where he loses and Biden kicks Big Jim out, I imagine he will find a really good job in aerospace. Not only do republicans love him but all of libspacetwitter and reddit enjoy his presence. He’s really made a name for himself and I could totally see him at spacex or something.

[Anonymous No.12104128]

>>12103617
Save this if you want

[Anonymous No.12104131]

Is there any form of communication superior to DoD powerpoint?
I think not.

[Anonymous No.12104135]

>>12104131
yes but they're all illegal

[Anonymous No.12104136]

Sept. 10/11Rocket 3.1 • Test Flight
Launch window: 0200-0430 GMT on 11th (10:00 p.m.-12:30 a.m. EDT on (10th/11th)
Launch site: Pacific Spaceport Complex, Kodiak Island, Alaska
A commercial small satellite launch vehicle developed by Astra will make its first orbital launch attempt. Astra says there will be no payloads on this test flight. Scrubbed on Aug. 2 due to upper level winds and boat in range. Scrubbed on Aug. 4 and Aug. 6. Delayed from Aug. 30 due to poor weather forecast. [Aug. 28]

[Anonymous No.12104152]

>>12104128
Omg that reply was written by hands burdened by extra chromosomes or something

[Anonymous No.12104154]

take the DoDpill

[Anonymous No.12104159]

>>12104154
They need to go back to infographics

[Anonymous No.12104164]

it ain't page 10, but holy fuck 700 replies is a good enough reason
>>12104160
>>12104160
>>12104160
>>12104160

[Anonymous No.12104201]

>>12104128
>Starship will be in trouble if Spacex ... is unable to develop new markets that justify such a launch vehicle
I assume that this person either doesn't know what Starlink is, or is in denial about how much goddamn money it'll make.

[Anonymous No.12104208]

>>12104201
maybe they're in denial about how much money full reuse will save

[Anonymous No.12104214]

>>12104159
Something about oldschool graphic design is just so fucking cool

[Anonymous No.12104509]

>>12102875
>plastic aluminum mockup
what could have been in USSR was not a corrupt shit hole

[Anonymous No.12104544]

>>12100725
Mars is fucking stupid

t.Titan gang

[Anonymous No.12104611]

>>12100725
[math]\frac{x^2-4x+3}{x^4-4x^3+6x^2-4x+1}[/math]
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