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12094206 No.12094206 [Reply] [Original]

You think humanity will inevitably abandon reality and switch to virtual reality? I mean what’s the point in living in the real world when all of your wild fantasies can come true through VR?

>> No.12094217

More like you'll be forced to.

>> No.12094234

Sorry, but no.
People who live in VR are literal leaches and we cannot have a working economy if everyone is a leach.
At best it would be banned. At worst, the manufacturers would use their VR tech to manipulate your memories and turn you into their slaves

>> No.12094236

>>12094234
>we cannot have a working economy if everyone is a leach.
During last few months half of population was literally forced to stop working.

>> No.12094239

Ask me again when it will be possible to have a blow job in vr.

>> No.12094240

>>12094236
And who do you think would keep the machines working and people alive and healthy?
Robots? Of course not, any human invention would have human error.
You need human maintenance and they would never do it for free

People who live in VR does not offer any benefits to society and would thus be culled. appropriately

>> No.12094315

>>12094240
>And who do you think would keep the machines working and people alive and healthy?
Several percents of people.
>and they would never do it for free
Will they do it for the half-price (or third-price)?
>and would thus be culled
You will be given a choice: to get in VR (and limit your sustenance costs to a bare minimum) or to get culled.

>> No.12094322

>>12094315
Your idea of a world is completely non functional.
Get up and stop fantasizing about a future where you can laze around

>> No.12094464

>>12094322
>Get up and stop fantasizing about a future where you can laze around
Anon, I know that you like to ignore reality, but if you missed last half-year, then it can't be helped.

>> No.12094476

>>12094464
Don't change the topic
A hedonistic lifestyle is just a glorified leech
Sooner or later, you have to work or starve. Prepare accordingly

>> No.12094482

>>12094476
It's you who is changing the topic from the
>During last few months half of population was literally forced to stop working.
See, you have a delusion that you possess a great set of skills which will always let you to earn your bread while preserving all your rights (and that is also true for the majority of population). That's far from truth and will be less true with every year. So in the end 99% of people will not have the choice
> to work or starve
they will either starve or will be forced in cheap VR with a permission necessary to get out. What can they do to oppose it, a strike?

>> No.12094488

>>12094482
No one's going to give you anything if you cannot provide anything.

>> No.12094489

>>12094488
So you will starve then.

>> No.12094490

>>12094489
*sigh*

>> No.12094494

>>12094490
I'm happy that you finally got what was said in >>12094236

>> No.12094501

>>12094494
Get a job, mate.
Everyone here either has one or a student. No one's wasting their time fantasizing over being a useless nut

>> No.12094507

>>12094501
I can only cite
>See, you have a delusion that you possess a great set of skills which will always let you to earn your bread while preserving all your rights (and that is also true for the majority of population).
again.
I know what your thought process is: "I will either have important skills or starve. I don't like starving. Therefore I will always have important skills." Sadly things don't work this way.

>> No.12094511

>>12094507
I already have a job and I have papers to publish
Sorry, that does not work

>> No.12094514
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12094514

Kindly head back to /a/

>> No.12094516

>>12094511
Great, then maybe you will be in the important percent (for some time). Or you will starve pretty soon. Or you will be get some minimal benefits if you will dutifully stay in VR... I mean, home. Judging by the fact that you lack any reading comprehension, you will probably fail with your papers.

>> No.12094519

>>12094516
Your VR future would not happen as no one wanted to take care of vegetables.

>> No.12094521

>>12094519
Is >>12094489 post hard to understand?

>> No.12094524

>>12094519
>as no one wanted to take care of vegetables.
Psych wards and nursing homes exist.

>> No.12094527

>>12094524
You pay for those.

>> No.12094532

>>12094527
What happens if you are clearly mentally deficient and your relatives don't pay for you?

>> No.12094533

>>12094532
What do you think?

>> No.12094535

>>12094533
What do *you* think?

>> No.12094752

>>12094234
>>12094240
>>12094322
>>12094476
>>12094488
A fully automated society/economy where machines produce everything and no one/less than 5% of the population works and everyone just hangs around taking the output of the machines is 100% possible and achievable and we're going to get to this point in about ~15 years

>> No.12094767

>>12094752
Why would the 5% keep the other 95% around? The 5% that run the system can have it produce just for themselves and thus reduce the consumption of power and resources by 95%

>> No.12094777

>>12094767
5% as in only 5% of the population needs to be working at any time, so you just cycle out who works along the week. And eventually, 05 of the population will have to work and machines will do everything.
Otherwise, 5% of the population can not beat 95%, especially when everyone has machines and weapons because automation has given everyone an armory. Some weird fantasy of the rich culling off 95% of people is literal communist incel fearmongering that has no possibility of happening

>> No.12094778

>>12094777
obvioulsy the 05 is supposed to be 0% but I guess I missed the shift key when hitting the % button.

>> No.12095156

>>12094752
Ah, yes. A fully automated world where innovation and reproduction are gone and all of civilization would collapse in 1 generation.
Please kill yourself

You don't care about education
You only wanted to be lazy.
Get out of /sci/

>> No.12095579

>>12094206
Read Diaspora by Egan

>> No.12095589

>>12094777
>Some weird fantasy of the rich culling off 95% of people is literal communist incel fearmongering that has no possibility of happening
Why?

>> No.12095663

This thread is full of a bunch of pathetic retards with simple minds. You do realize that the concept of VR doesn't preclude people being able to meet up within vr right? Do you even understand the possibilities of this? Entire business meetings can be done in VR. Schooling can be done in VR. You can setup robots to be manipulated through VR. People can LITERALLY FUCKING WORK and not be "useless leaches" like that one retard earlier was stating. The fact that some of you can't even imagine the transformative implications of VR on the working world is just mind boggling. Mouth breathing shitheads

>> No.12095845

>>12095663
Why do it in VR when you could do it in real life?
Do you really want to be a dependent vegetable so badly?

>> No.12096234

>>12095845
VR is economical. Why spend thousands of dollars per employee to fly and put them up in hotels for business trips when you can just conduct them virtually at a fraction of the cost. Why force everyone to commute to roughly the same area on the same schedules wasting 10s of thousands of dollars and gas and peoples time when you can just have them log in to control a robot on-demand when a job needs to be done?

>> No.12096294

>>12096234
It's called internet connection.
VR is neither needed nor wanted.