Mars colonization budget

[Anonymous No.12089157]

Would $700 billion be enough to create a colony of 100 people in Mars? How long will it take to accomplish that?

[Anonymous No.12089301]

>>12089157
up

[Anonymous No.12089457]

>>12089157
Ok but imagine how many kids you could help poor people have if you put that money into social welfare programs instead.
At least six each. And they could all have 36 grandkids each.

[Anonymous No.12089458]

>>12089457
Okay but if we got to mars we could just send poor people cause more jobs

[Anonymous No.12089464]

>>12089457
most people these days can afford the basic needs of life without welfare. food, water, vehicles are cheaper than ever. housing may not so, but the gov can easily fix that for a couple billion dollars and some legislation regarding abandoned homes.

[Anonymous No.12089470]

id just rather the government not confiscate $700 billion and we kill 100 poor people on network tv

[Anonymous No.12089473]

>>12089470
lmao
>do you want $700 billion go up in flames or 100 people executed on live tv
>lets do both
>mars colony it is then

[Anonymous No.12089474]

>>12089157
never gonna happen

[Anonymous No.12089478]

>>12089157
The issue of the colony is the unsustainability of a food/water system, unsustainability of an active replacement parts manufacturing and the unsustainability of law & order for a bunch of depressed people who think that they're about to die because XYZ happened.
All of these are potential crises that can wipe it out and the response that would come from Earth would either cost a lot, or would be missing. In order for the correct response you would essentially need to have an active highway between the planets and enough volume of transportation so that relocating resources and manpower would be at least barely feasible. Then comes the problem of feasibility. What do you produce there, that's not magnitudes cheaper on Earth anyway, to pay for the rockets, their fuel, and the general cost of the colony?

Elon knows all of this of course but he still kept shilling it. He even claimed back in 2010 that we would have an active colony by 2020. When 2020 hit, he admitted that the earliest possible colony would be around 2050 and that's already pushing it. This is the cold blackpilling truth - we can't colonize Antarctica yet and we actually have the needed feasibility in doing so. But people just can't do it. Mars is much more complicated than Antarctica, or underwater colonization, or even a very basic Saharan colonization.

[Anonymous No.12089486]

>>12089474
this is the reason why /pol/ is so retarded. they keep scapegoating others for their deficiency like a bunch of children. rather than blaming themselves why dont they try harder, be smarter, read more science, telling the naysayers to fuck off, simply move forwards, they lay in bed and fantasize to destroy their scapegoats because they truly believe theyre in the way of their greatness.

theyre like the poles, who constantly blame the germans and the russians for the pitiful state of their nation and they always tell themselves how much better they would be if those nations dont exist. truly pathetic bunch.

[Anonymous No.12089493]

>this is the reason why /pol/ is so retarded. they keep scapegoating others for their deficiency like a bunch of children. rather than blaming themselves why dont they try harder, be smarter, read more science

[Anonymous No.12089507]

>>12089486
This. A wolf does not care what sheeps do or think. /sci/ is the only real redpilled place on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.12089536]

>>12089157
70 trillion maybe. so 7x what we have in all of money supply.

[Anonymous No.12089705]

>>12089486
I don't see how the person you replied to was alluding to any kind of personal deficiency at all, are you implying that if he tried harder we would have space colonies?

[Anonymous No.12089711]

>>12089478
Tis a shame we won't live forever. Another century or two and eternal youth would almost be guaranteed. I hate the pop sci niggers who keep insisting it's only a decade away, though.

[Anonymous No.12089719]

>>12089705
that retard? not a chance.
but him convincing several others its impossible because (scapegoat A) is in the way makes it so much harder for everyone.

[Anonymous No.12089722]

>>12089507
>A wolf does not care what sheeps do or think.
>/pol/ threads always reach bump limit.
Keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.12089730]

>>12089722
Its mostly because the /pol/tards there kept being told to go kill themselves for being retarded and they cant stop replying to the insults.

[Anonymous No.12089733]

>>12089719
I can tell by the way you've written this that you sincerely believe it, and are very sheltered. Bless your heart.

[Anonymous No.12089851]

We need to do more than just land a colony on Mars. I'm all for the scientific advancement of humanity, but if there's no benefit other than dickwaving to putting a colony on Mars then we have no reason to do it yet. We might only have 5-10 years before our tech makes it feasible, but we still have another 100 before it's reasonable.

[Anonymous No.12089916]

>>12089711
>who keep insisting it's only a decade away
Clueless people who have no idea how mediocre humanity actually is.
We are barely able to colonize this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1noUh2NrLI and by colonize I mean not even tap water. And then we will somehow do the exact same thing, on a colder climate during night even on the equator itself, plus radiation, and on a literal another planet that only has a supposed one to two rockets leave every year or so? Completely delusional. This is why I dislike Elon. His goals are objectively good. The fact that he pretends that they're any close to being achievable is not. What he's doing is he's generating a WOW MAN BASED SCIENCE crowd which will inevitably realize that it was impossible and that they fell for marketing, and completely renounce scientism for the rest of their lives. It's already happening in fact.

[Anonymous No.12089943]

>>12089719
it's a 4chan meme you fucking snowflake softcock

[Anonymous No.12089949]

>>12089943
>im dumb
>itz mustz be da blacks faults
4chan isnt that retarded, no

[Anonymous No.12089960]

>>12089916
Nasa plans to prove the concept on the moon, and export that technology to mars. Elon isn't the only one working on these plans.

[Anonymous No.12089975]

>>12089949
you're a sniveling little softcock

[Anonymous No.12090080]

>>12089960
Even that has no economic feasibility until we can terraform

[Anonymous No.12090232]

>>12089486
I mean I believe in the meme you replied to while still being an applied math major and working towards that goal.
Its possible to do both. In fact, unless you're an uber autist you likely can't just work non-stop like you seem to be implying /pol/tards should.

[Anonymous No.12090984]

>>12089493
It's almost as if not being able to go to school, due to extreme poverty, has an effect on IQ

[Anonymous No.12091735]

>>12089157
With reusable rockets you can do it for 100B to 1T, so 700B is closer to yes than no.

[Anonymous No.12091742]

>>12091735
Time is mostly dependent on political and public interest.

[Anonymous No.12091747]

>>12090984
Shouldve already gotten school under wraps, you know, being the og human and all that headstarter shit

[Anonymous No.12092531]

>>12089470
>>12089473
Well, those 2 are essentially the same thing.
Except that sending people on Mars add extra years of psychological tortures for the one chosen.

[Anonymous No.12092567]

>>12089916
I feel you.
That say, humanity isn't that mediocre, we just take lot of time to look beyond false good idea and discover what we've actually been longing for all this time.
Colonizing Mars became a meme because of our bias toward the familiar, not helped by decade of science-fiction depicting terraforming as easy. Not counting the literal new frontier meme.
It is easier to make movie on Earth and pretend it's a colony/Earth-like alien world than to build a city worth of fake space habitat.