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0.4% mortality rate

>> No.12085488 [DELETED] 
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post threads that annoy jannies and evade bans

>> No.12085495

Are you a virologist or something?

>> No.12085530

>>12085495
Yes
No
Maybe

>> No.12085668

>>12085478
>https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
The CDC also said that for 6% of deaths, COVID was the only cause mentioned. The vast majority of people who actually die from COVID have preexisting health conditions. Why should I be forced to look after unhealthy overweight people who don't even look after themselves?

>> No.12085670

AIDs has 0% mortality rate, cause nobody dies from AIDs, they die from secondary infection.

I guess AIDs must be harmless then? Maybe OP should get AIDs to show everyone how harmless it is.

>> No.12085679

I love how fast all the happening fags turned into deniers.

>> No.12085685
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>>12085679
The complete 180° that /pol/ has undergone is fascinating. Just a few months ago, this was one of the most doomsday prepper-tier places on the Internet. Now that people here are realizing this COVID thing is a giant social engineering operation, the mainstream is back to where /pol/ was several months ago. It's bizarre.

>> No.12085704

Government says it's a problem.... anfhey can't use you if you're dead, so I listen...nuff said

>> No.12085713
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>>12085704
>Government tells you to eat bugs to save the environment

>> No.12085719

>>12085478

if you get symptoms, your chance of dying is 4.4%

877,704 / (877,704 + 18,876,687) = 4% CFR (worldwide)

If we now exclude cases in mainland China, using current data on deaths and recovered cases, we get:

873,070 / (873,070 + 18,796,424) = 4.4% CFR (outside of mainland China)

>> No.12085720

>>12085713
Cover that little bugger [haha] in hot sauce..... If he don't run away that is

>> No.12085725

>>12085679
it turns out living in bunkers and eating rations isnt as fun as fiction made it to be.
/pol/shitters are the biggest sissies in the world lel

>> No.12085733

>>12085679
>I love how fast all the happening fags turned into deniers.
Government says the virus is nothing. Everybody freaks out!!!
Government says the virus is real. Everybody denies it.

What can be learned from this?
Conspiracy theorists are contrarian by their nature.

>> No.12085815

>>12085733
I think the biggest takeaway is that you cannot trust the government

>> No.12085850

>>12085685
>>12085679
Its almost like anyone can come to this website and post, and that there could easily be a concerted organized effort to form a certain narrative................................................

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>>12085850

>> No.12085887
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>>12085850
>N-noooo they're not gullible idiots
>It was da juice!

>> No.12085889

>>12085685
>>>12085679
>The complete 180° that libtards have undergone is fascinating. They try to control everything people do for spacing and have laws for everyone to wear masks; yet don't care if thousands of orcs assemble without masks to burn things down and murder innocent people.
>its bizarre

>> No.12085891

>>12085887
>doesn't want people to point out the world controllers

Reddit fag detected. How does that dick in your ass feel?

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imagine being in this much booty blasted denial when confronted with how much of a useful idiot you've been

>> No.12085927

>>12085911

Not you talking to anyone right now. Your just shouting words out your window and hoping someone understands

>> No.12086409

>>12085668
Maybe because you're a decent human being who doesn't want people to die

>> No.12086432

>>12085719
Now post the chances of getting symptoms

>> No.12086467

>>12085668
Maybe because 45% of people have just one of those conditions.

>> No.12086490

No, bad goy! Covid is like the black death, and it's Drumpf's fault! You don't want to be a science denier, do you? Then put on that mask, listen to SCIENCE! and vote for Joe Biden in November!

>> No.12086512

>>12085478
Trump should be blasting this all over the place and pushing for reopening of the economy. It's his duty as a world leader and because it might save the election.
Btw cdc already buried the paper.

>> No.12086516

>>12085891
>DA JOOOOOOZ!

>> No.12086518

>>12086512
>>12085478
i would ask that you please contain your autism

>> No.12086519

>>12086512
Cdc released that paper in march
Trump retreated a tweet talking about it a few days ago, which is why /pol/ is obsessed with it.
The guy who posted the original tweet died of COVID 19 in may, a victim of his own stupidity.

>> No.12086641

>>12085733
>What can be learned from this?
That government is inadequate (or evil)?

>> No.12086649

>>12086409
Then stay the fuck home.

>> No.12086656

>>12085670
If you are a man who does not have sex with men or injects drugs, your chance to get it is negligible.

>> No.12086659

At the very least covid19 has proven how much of a sham our current economy is. By the time the next big pandemic rolls around nobody's gonna care and shareholders are gonna make everyone work while they die because god forbid we don't see growth every quarter until the end of time. We're hilariously underpepared for these events and people would rather see others die before they lose out on their own comforts.

>> No.12086676
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>>12086516
You always know a JIDF shill because all they do is try to ridicule and use social shaming. Just look at them like they are stupid, say yes and laugh at their histrionics

>> No.12086680

>>12086659
>how much of a sham our current economy is.
How so? What the fuck? What economy is robust enough to operate during a fucking pandemic?

>> No.12086682

>>12085911
I am sure 99 percent of the people in this thread were calling people schizo and /pol/ only a few months ago while they make fun of the other idiots here even dumber than they are for still being so clueless. Pretty easy when people have dumped it in your lap

>> No.12086683

>>12086676
Why would JIDF be on sci you stupid fucking loser. It's not a shill or a higher conspiracy, everyone just hates you /pol/ faggots, and your arrogant stubborn coping only proves everyone else's point that you're schizophrenic paranoid contrarian niggers

>> No.12086696

>>12086676
>all they do is try to ridicule
Because you lot are fucking retarded and you don't even try to hide it
>and use social shaming
Pretty sure this described any angry 4channer, but for the sake of your paranoid tantrum I'll repeat the aforementioned point: you're hated because you are fucking dumb, lol. Now put the dunce cap back on and shoo

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>>12086683
>>12086696
Not reading that schizo shit rofl, hahaha what a couple of faggots. You suck each others dick on break?

>> No.12086714

>>12086659
>half of the world is forced to stop working
>nothing happens
If anything that proved that most people are not needed. Pray that it wasn't a testing before the implementation.

>> No.12086717

>>12086676
>JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ!

>> No.12086734
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>>12086706
>schizo shit
Says the one convinced everyone disagreeing with him is a jew. Based on you attaching images to every single one of your posts, I'm guessing you're the same anon in the other thread arguing about conspiracy theories?

Back to your containment board stinky piggot! Shoo shoo now

>> No.12086751

>>12086734
Shouldn't you wear the tinfoli hat to prevent covid from getting on your hair?

>> No.12086760

>>12086751
Get off 4chan and get some friends dude, jfc. I'm going to bed - good luck anon.

>> No.12086771

>>12085679
I always said it was going to be a nothingburger, and every day I feel more vindicated

>> No.12086886

I wish mods would ban these kinds of fake news threads like the do on reddit. This is dangerous information and not true

>> No.12086887

>>12085670
The IFR calculation already takes that into account, if it didn't it would be around 0.02 considering that the CDC said only 6% of COVID deaths didn't have comorbidities

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>>12086886
>This is dangerous information and not true

>> No.12086897

>>12085670
Great analogy anon.

>> No.12086901

>>12086886
Agreed. These threads don’t even belong on /sci/ because they are inherently unscientific.

>> No.12086914

>>12085679
People hoped for something exciting and their expectations were betrayed once again. Naturally they'll become frustrated.

>> No.12086926
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Also lockdowns were justified by a model that used 15 year old code of which a quarter was translated from fortran to C, and was made by a guy who said bird flu would kill 200 million in 2005

>> No.12086936

>>12086886
What is not true?

>> No.12086946
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>>12086432

>> No.12086949

>>12086886
Which part is not true? In my country its even lower than that because people are less fat. Its entirely possible fatality rate in us is 0.4%

>> No.12086967

>>12086886
go back there faggot and never come back

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>>12086734
THIS NIGGA EATING BEANS

>> No.12086993

>>12085478
>170,000 dead in 6 months
>50% of survivors have permanent heart failure

Go lick a handrail, you dumb monkey.

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>>12085478
You mean 4.0%

Also, began at 20% abd were just now starting to be able to treat it.

>> No.12087002

>Covid killing all the unhealthy people on the planet.
>Most young healthy people are immune.
This is fine.

>> No.12087004

>>12086993
>3 millions dead in 2019, 2018 and before
Truly a genocide.

>> No.12087005

>>12085668
>preexisting health conditions
Insurance industry buzzphrase for "we don't pay".

>> No.12087012

>>12087002
ya, fuck your parents

>> No.12087014

>>12086997
Judging by the fact that Sweden had no lockdowns or masks and yet their deaths are almost zero now, 4.0% of Swedes already died from covid.
Oh, wait, they did not.

>> No.12087016

>>12087012
If your parents don't want to get covid, why won't they stay inside?

>> No.12087021

>>12085478
Thats not true i know at least 100 people who die from covid. 50% of them turned out be mutated to covid zombies.

>> No.12087024

>>12087014
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&location=Denmark&location=Finland&location=Norway&location=Sweden

>> No.12087032

>>12087024
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&location=Denmark&location=Finland&location=Norway&location=Sweden

>> No.12087052

>>12087024
Sorry but i went to a higher school and i know how natural growth looks like, not like this.

The main point is not that some people die a horrible death of covid. The main point is that you need with that logic, melt down all cares cause of care accidents and allow only basics transportation like food, supply. That you need to ban metal knifes and allow only plastic ones.

Even soap scores high in lethality, cause its slippy, you also need to ban this. And some things i mentioned are even more deathly and cruel as covid and should be banned even more.
The out of proportion reaction, with an rat tail of logic falsity's. I dont want to call it lies cause my families told me to assume stupidity before purpose.

>> No.12087057

>>12087052
He is a spambot who spams this link without even reading what he answers to, so you won't be successful in arguing with him.

>> No.12087062
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>>12087052
>oh noes actual data

>> No.12087066

>>12087052
>Even soap scores high in lethality
hurr durr soap contagious.

>> No.12087068

>>12087062
Which fully supports >>12087014 (and >>12086926)
Covidists are destroyed by data again.

>> No.12087071

>>12087066
>non-contagious things are OK
Guess you should jump from somewhere or get shot because it's not contagious.

>> No.12087079

>>12087068
>4% of swedes
lol retard
total confirmed: 84985
dead: 5835
CFR = 5835/84985 = 6.85%

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>>12087062
The red line is how a organism behaves.
And the black line is how people behave who want to push an agenda.

>> No.12087085

>>12087079
Spambot strikes again! Now go and reread >>12087014, maybe you will grasp something the third time.

>> No.12087089

>>12087071
don't have to worry of a soap in a bus, shop or at school.
have a good one, smelly anon

>> No.12087092

>>12087084
Impressive, did you quote that from your PhD?

>> No.12087094
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>>12087024
Another proof that masks are not just humiliating and inconvenient, they are also deadly.

>> No.12087095

>>12087085
>i have no argument

>> No.12087097

>>12087089
>bus
Sounds even more dangerous. But it's you who are afraid of deadly things, so not using soap and not using bus is your philosophy.

>> No.12087098

>>12087092
i have no phd, im to stupid, as the iq test shows (150 out of 150). i cant compete with studied people.

>> No.12087101

>>12087094
>Handkerchiefs cause sneezes
kek

>> No.12087102

>>12087095
Here is the argument, my spambot friend:
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&location=Denmark&location=Finland&location=Norway&location=Sweden
Judging by the fact that Sweden had no lockdowns or masks and yet their deaths are almost zero now, 4.0% of Swedes already died from covid.
Oh, wait, they did not.

>> No.12087104

>>12087084
>an agenda
ooh noes

>> No.12087105

>>12087098
>i cant compete
with real data

>> No.12087106

>>12087101
Yes, that's literally the covidist logic.

>> No.12087108

>>12087102
>4.0% of Swedes
lol
>>12087079

>> No.12087113 [DELETED] 

>>12087102
>their deaths are almost zero
that's all over europe, regardless off contagion rate.
The huge deaths occur in the 3rd world and shithole USA.

https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&country=France&country=Germany&country=Italy&country=Spain&country=United+Kingdom

>> No.12087115

>>12087104
>>12087105
Did you know that an Authority argument is a logic falsity? I have 1,5 years of philosophy and 1,5 years in neuro science but i know that dont count for faggs like you.

But let me say it like this, logic falsity is a nice way for an Philosopher to say that someone tries to lie.

>> No.12087118

>>12087102
>their deaths are almost zero
that's all over europe, regardless of contagion rate.
The huge deaths occur in the 3rd world and shithole USA.

https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&country=France&country=Germany&country=Italy&country=Spain&country=United+Kingdom

>> No.12087120

>>12087108
Yes, my spambot friend, now you understand how you doubly failed with your spamlink (both because of >>12087094 and >>12087014)?

>> No.12087122

>>12087115
>logic falsity
not using real data is a red flag

>> No.12087123

>>12087120
6.85% > 4%

>> No.12087125

>>12087122
No you retarded peace of shit. 3+3=6 even if i dont have apples to show you physical proof or pictures.

>> No.12087126

>>12087113
>The huge deaths occur
literally nowhere, since seasonal cold is not "huge deaths". But you are correct that mask-hating Scandinavia is doing even better than mask-loving USA.

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>>12087118

>> No.12087134

>>12087123
What a joy that 6.85% of Swedes did not die (0.685% of Swedes did not die too, and the same is true for 0.0685% of Swedes). And yet the "pandemics" stopped in Sweden.

>> No.12087138

>>12087134
lol
lrn2read

>> No.12087139

>>12087115
>an Authority argument
wat
Lrn2read fgt pls

>> No.12087141

>>12087138
Yes, my spambot friend, learn to read and reread >>12087014 and >>12087024 several times. Maybe you will understand what
>4.0% of Swedes already died from covid.
>Oh, wait, they did not.
does mean.

>> No.12087142

>>12087139
it is completely irrelevant if you understand something or not. You are free to investigate how natural growth looks at your own you dont need me for this.

>> No.12087145

>>12087142
>it is completely irrelevant
wat

>you dont need me for this
I don't need you for anything; but could you address the "Authority argument" comment yoy made?

>> No.12087155

>>12087145
Yes i did, but i also add an example for deductive logic. During you just used this argumentation line so stfu.

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>>12087141
world's CFR is 4.4%
sweden's CFR is 6.85%
6.85/4.4 = 1.55
sweden has done 55% worse than the world on average

>> No.12087174

>>12087155
>Yes i did
wat, where?

>you just used this argumentation line
wat, where?

>> No.12087176

>>12087160
What, you continue your spam? But I'm happy that you no longer claim that 4.0% Swedes died from covid. The comparison with the world is irrelevant because
a)seasonal cold is seasonal cold everywhere
b)it stopped in Sweden
If it did not stop in the world, then you have the whole future in front of you and Swedish strategy worked. And if it did stop, then covidists are malignant everywhere.

>> No.12087187

>>12087176
>comparison with the world is irrelevant
lol ok sweetie oc it is

>> No.12087195

>>12087187
Next time read the initial >>12087014 post and don't spam your >>12087024 link if you don't want to prove it.

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>>12087195
>prove it.
seriously, are you brain damaged?

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>>12087195
>prove it
seriously, are you brain damaged?

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12087231

Average IQ of people who believe this graph and any stats based on China's data?

>> No.12087232

>>12087224
Yes, >>12087195 said
>4.0% of Swedes already died from covid.
>Oh, wait, they did not.
Your spamlink from >>12087024 brilliantly proved it (it also proved that masks are malignant). So, again, next time don't spam links you don't read.

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Average IQ of people who believe these countries have a system capable of reporting actual figures?

>> No.12087235

>>12087231
China is doing great! Time to introduce Chinese-style social rating everywhere.

>> No.12087239

>>12087232
>>>12087195 said
that's his problem then

>> No.12087240

>>12087233
So countries with most total cases are actually lying about their numbers?

>> No.12087241

>>12087232
>>12087160
sweden is a shithole

>> No.12087242

>>12087239
Happily >>12087024 came and with his
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&location=Denmark&location=Finland&location=Norway&location=Sweden
spamlink proved what >>12087014 said.

>> No.12087244

>>12087241
Greta is shit, but Tegnell is OK.

>> No.12087245

>>12087240
Those numbers are probably 2 or 3 times lower than they should be.

>> No.12087247

>>12087242
ok sweetie

>> No.12087249

>>12087244
i'm sure he'll suck your cock for your fan letter

>> No.12087250

>>12087245
If this disease indeed has 4.0% CFR and spreads exponentially, then lying about it has no sense because a couple of months later millions will die.

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>posting misinformation on the internet to mislead people into underestimating how bad coronavirus is so that they catch the virus and die, thus solving the overpopulation crisis

>> No.12087252

>>12087249
>>12087247
You don't need to further prove your party affiliation.

>> No.12087253

>>12087250
>then lying about it has no sense because a couple of months later millions will die.
And you'll never know because almost all deaths in China, India, Brazil and other authoritarian states and shitholes won't report the numbers.

>> No.12087254

>>12087251
Countries which are contributing to overpopulation have age structure which makes corona harmless.

>> No.12087258

>>12086886
Free speech dangerous

Let’s talk about dumb normie shit

>hurr durr I like actor X Y Z
>hurr durr lol pizza with pineapple so bad

>> No.12087261

>>12087253
You can hide 0.04 of population dead, you can probably even hide 0.4% of population dead, but hiding 4% dead (millions) sounds like a hard task.

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>>12087254
fuck
How do we solve this?

>> No.12087272

>>12087263
>Most influenza outbreaks disproportionately kill the very young and the very old, with a higher survival rate for those in between, but the Spanish flu pandemic resulted in a higher than expected mortality rate for young adults.
hmmm, idk

>> No.12087273

>>12087261
0.4% of Russia + China + India is already well into the millions. Add to that most of South America and Africa where the death toll can be 2% without anyone noticing (infrastructure is so bad they don't even have a database of citizens or accurate population counts) and there you go, 10 million dead totally unaccounted for.

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>>12087261
>of population
no you idiot, of people who got covid-19

>> No.12087275

remember when everyone in 2019 was wishing for a boomer genocide

>> No.12087278

>>12087275
I'm wishing for a meteor to strike somewhere in the middle east and wipe out 65% of the world population.

>> No.12087279

>>12087273
shithead #2
>>12087274

>> No.12087280

>>12087274
If covid magically infects only 1% or less of population, then it is 100 times less dangerous than covidists claim.

>> No.12087283

>>12087275
Meanwhile zoomers are forced to stay home.

>> No.12087286

>>12087279
>duuur i write like a spaz and people misunderstand me

>> No.12087294

>>12087286
CFR, what does the C stand for?

>> No.12087300

>>12087294
>>12087280

>> No.12087304

>>12087300
>can't answer
kek

>> No.12087305

>>12087294
Doesn't matter. My claim is that millions can die across South America Asia and Africa and it'll go totally unnoticed,

>> No.12087309

>>12087304
Cases We Count To Make Flu-Tier-Mortality Disease Look Like Black Plague

>> No.12087311

>>12087309
>>12087304

>> No.12087314

>>12087311
Returning to the spam-mode, are we?

>> No.12087322

>>12087314
projection, the post

>> No.12087327

>>12087322
Posts like >>12087304 are clearly spam.

>> No.12087329

>>12087327
>laughing at stupid answer is spam
and here i laugh again

>> No.12087334

>>12085850
It's almost like /pol/ always has been and always will be a shitposting board.
Fuck off back to plebbit.

>> No.12087335

>>12087329
At least you learned not to self-btfo with links.

>> No.12087463

>>12087263
stop the welfare?

>> No.12087565

>>12087335
Jag skulle utmana dig till en kamp med förstånd, men jag ser att du är obeväpnad.

>> No.12087600

>>12085478
STAY THE FUCK HOME SELFISH INCEL
PEOPLE ARE DYING
THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL

>> No.12087609

>>12087600
people were dying before that, whole 150000 die everyday, and almost none of that is from corona, what do you have to say?

>> No.12087616

>>12087609
what is contagious

>> No.12087635

>>12085530
I don't know.

>> No.12087664

/lgbt/ poc non binary jew here, do alt-righters believe in coronavirus? I don't know because I don't go to /pol/ it triggers me. I don't know why the left is so intent on making this the new normal, it's like they are relishing living like this forever for some reason. I was cool with the social distancing and masks for the first few months, now it's tiresome, we need to get on with our lives and the virus isn't a big deal anyway but left wing media still treats healthy people as if they have AIDS.

>> No.12087675

>>12087664
>living like this forever
no you shitstain retard,
until the vaccine is available

>> No.12087719

>>12087675
>we're all in it together until there is a vaccine!
This is bs, there may not ever be a vaccine and even if one is coming one day there's no time scale

>> No.12087805 [DELETED] 

Niggers tongue my anus

>> No.12088117

>>12085685
It's the opposite retard. Disinformation and social conditioning has been done to make people believe it's a harmless nothingburger. This is how people get sick, this is how people suffer from the health consequences of the virus. You're an idiot.

>> No.12088123

>>12088117
>You're an idiot
likely just another russian bot

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>>12085679

>> No.12088200

>>12085685
The reason why is because thought to have something like a 60% mortality rate with how the information was being let out of china.

>> No.12088441

>>12085478
That number doesn't involve suicide rate caused by collateral economic crisis.

>> No.12088616

>>12085478
>got covid
>had a stiff neck and a stuffy nose for literally one day
>took some ibuprofen and felt perfectly fine
This is what we shut down the world for?

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>>12085478
>tfw it's been several months into the pandemic and people are still harping on the death rate

The issue is not the death rate, it's the fact that COVID spreads easily and can overwhelm hospitals. Any other concern is a meme.

>> No.12090291

>>12088644
Where did hospitals get overwhelmed? (in the developed world)

>> No.12091388

>US facing 400,000 deaths by years end
>WW2 calimed 419,000 American lives
>this isn't a big deal

>> No.12091395

>>12091388
>around 3 millions of Americans die per year
>Holocaust was 6 millions
Why new Holocaust every 2 years is ignored?

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>>12090291
Nowhere, unless some places decided to overwhelm them on purpose.

>> No.12091402

>>12091395
>3 million die for every cause of death
>13% come from a single cause that can be countered
>we shouldn't counter it

>> No.12091409

>>12088644
This is true but it never has overwhelmed anywhere and if it came close that is because most western healthcare systems are underfunded

>> No.12091411

>>12091402
>3 million die for every cause of death
So? That's still seven WWIIs per year. Using your logic we should react to it as if it was hyperWWIII.

>> No.12091413

>>12088200
I hate trump but he’s kinda right that Chinese lies caused the crisis to be worse. People panicked in february

>> No.12091419

>>12091402
>we shouldn't counter it
We should, for example to imprison governors who literally forced nursing homes to accept covid patients and caused half of the deaths.

>> No.12091423

>>12091411
I think we should react as if we have learnt something about the spread of viruses since the spanish flu.
>but muh economy
The same economy that was doomed thanks to exponential debit before covid?
We are long overdue for a move away from neoliberalism and covid is just going to be the straw that breaks the camels back.

>> No.12091460

>>12091423
No, "something bad happened in the past, so we should do the different unrelated bad to compensate" isn't a sound logic. By the way, ut's not even economical abuse, but the awful abuse of every possible freedom. Inb4
>but muh freedoms!
But you are also correct that "muh economy" matters too. Is destroying people's well-being and also destroying small businesses in favour of corporations your concept of fighting neoliberalism?

>> No.12091473

>>12085478
Haven't seen a couple of buddies for a few months. Had lunch with them, both are convinced that covid is a hoax to bring communism to America. They stocked on guns and ammo back in March. And have a couple of extra refrigerators in their basements. I thought it was just a /pol/ thing. Nope. Seemingly normal people are going insane. God help us.

>> No.12091490

>>12091460
Why is “freedom” now a dirty word?

>> No.12091498

>>12091473
It’s not a hoax or conspiracy but they are right that it is bringing communism to the west. What happened is that western governments didn’t know how to deal with it so they just decided to copy the methods used by China I.e lockdown, shaming people into wearing masks, hero worship, organised cheering.

>> No.12091504

>>12091460
>something bad happened and we didn't attempt mass quarantine
>this time we are trying it but idiots insist on breaking it then claiming it's not working
As for muh freedoms can you really not go 2 months without leaving the house so that everything can go back to normal? I know most governments lack the political will to do it but current data shows 8 weeks of total lockdown and it's done.

As for ending neoliberalism just don't bail out a single business, the giants with massive overheads will die much faster than the little guys.

>> No.12091524

>>12091504
>but current data shows 8 weeks of total lockdown and it's done.
Then how did it appear in the first place?

>> No.12091530

>>12091504
>2 months
Haven’t you heard? This is the new normal!

>> No.12091537

>>12091504
>>this time we are trying it but idiots insist on breaking it then claiming it's not working
If you propose something you know will not work anyway, then the blame is purely on you.
Anyway, if you are someone at risk (or simply too paranoid), why won't specifically (you) stay inside? You will certainly get no covid, and those who want to risk will be on their own.

>> No.12091554

>>12091537
Have you never heard of collective responsibility? Into the gulag with you!

>> No.12091556

>>12091524
Does it matter? It's out and unless we get it under control we can expect life expectancy to drop sharply. We could keep praying for a vaccine but being a corona virus it could prove as hard to vaccinate against as the common cold.
>people have it
>go about life
>expose hundreds more
>dozens catch and spread it
If everything and I mean EVERYTHING was shut for 8 weeks it would be over, but governments were too scared to pull the trigger so instead we have a situtaion where lots are out of work but the majority are still vectors.

>>12091537
So it is better it remains in circulation for the rest of human history than you stay home for 2 months?

>> No.12091598

>>12091556
This is not a realistic solution. You sound like those retards who try to eradicate Aids by banning all sex

>> No.12091603

>>12091556
>Does it matter?
Let's say you managed to apply your total lockdown and even magically succeeded to eradicate the virus. Congrats, you just returned year back. Will you now keep the lockdown permanent? Or will you introduce new total lockdown every second month?

>> No.12091615

>>12091556
>So it is better it remains in circulation for the rest of human history than you stay home for 2 months?
Of course, there are multitudes of viruses floating around, one more will not change anything. By the way "you stay home for 2 months" is an absolutely insane and abusive demand, not some cute harmless preventative measure.

>> No.12091637

>>12091603
If I succeeded I close the borders and don't let anyone from a nation that hasn't succeeded into the country. If you wish to leave the US you can but if you go somewhere that still have the coof you don't get back in.

>>12091615
When young men were conscripted into Vietnam is was a much more abusive demand and not even for a good reason. Would you react this way to conscription?

>> No.12091656

>>12091637
>If I succeeded I close the borders and don't let anyone from a nation that hasn't succeeded into the country. If you wish to leave the US you can but if you go somewhere that still have the coof you don't get back in.
Hmm, so just another enormous abuse after the previous enormous abuse? Coofing on you instead is way easier.

>> No.12091661

>>12091637
What the fuck has Vietnam got to do with this. That is some bullshit straw man.
And now you’ve moved from forcing everyone to live under house arrest to banning citizens from entering their own country. Did you know that exile is illegal under international law?

>> No.12091670

>>12091637
Conscription in US ended half-century ago. You may as well remember the slavery.

>> No.12091674

>>12091656
This is the level of retard that I have to deal with IRL every day. They would have us live in concentration camp for life just to stop this flu. It’s scary how radicalised everyone has become.

>> No.12091685

>>12091674
>8 weeks
>for life
Now I see why you don't care, you have 6 weeks to live anyway.

>> No.12091693

>>12086734
Just realized those giant Hershey kisses would be great for tinfoil hats

>> No.12091701

>>12087066
Soap has had explosive growth over the world.
You may even have soap in your home at this very moment.
Odds are that if your parents had soap that you will get it too.

>> No.12092080

>>12091498
but there was never any histeria in the us compared to some european countries especially italy/spain/france. all you need to do is pretend that you wear a mask when you get out of your car in public.

>> No.12092108

>>12087094
This is so retarded to show 20 countries on the left and just one of them on the right. If you want to make a point you'd need to compare all of them on both sides.

>> No.12092115

>>12091399
>source
>your ass

>> No.12092722

>>12085713
>>Government tells you to eat bug
What government ever said that? When?

>> No.12094060

>>12085670
>I guess AIDs must be harmless then
Yes nowadays at least with current drugs

>> No.12094065

>>12085679
It just was small minority

>> No.12094082

>>12092115
>btfo

>> No.12094092

>>12092722
Are you a climate denialist? If not, eat the fucking bug!

>> No.12094738

>>12085685
Not really surprising. Back from December to February, all the information that was available suggested this was a huge fucking problem and that it would spread out of control. By April, it was clear it was spreading out of control but the evidence suggested it was much less deadly than first thought. By May-June it was clear it was no more deadly than a flu strain, and that the government was going to use it as an excuse to be more authoritarian for as long as the media was driving people into fear/panic mode.

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