/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.12043189]

Starhopper awakens edition

previous >>12039629

[Anonymous No.12043193]

>>12043189
Does Elon musk lay eggs

[Anonymous No.12043203]

So anon, do you like Bezos's O Neil cylinder approach or Musk's terraforming?

Made a tiny thing to visualize coriolis effects in rotating space habitats:
https://ephu.itch.io/coriolis-force-simulator
(Keyboard and mouse for now).

[Anonymous No.12043209]

>>12043203
I really like the idea of o neil cylinders but honestly its just atleast 20 years away

[Anonymous No.12043216]

threadly reminder to INSTALL PRINCIPIA

[Anonymous No.12043240]

fuck squad
fuck patched conics
SYMPLECTIC INTEGRATOR is my new best friend

[Anonymous No.12043248]

>>12043203
Honestly in the "short" term colonizing planets and planetoids is the better option, we'll only have a relatively few Onei'll cylinder like structures as support structures. But in the long term Onei'll structures are simply just better, they use materials billions of times more efficiently than living on any shitty planet!

[Anonymous No.12043251]

>>12043248
>not posting the musk version of this

[Anonymous No.12043255]

Humans are a virus, trying to spread and kill any world they curse...

[Anonymous No.12043258]

>>12043255
Go away, recaptcha.

[Anonymous No.12043260]

>>12043203
Stanford Toruses and Bernal spheres are the way to go for now.

[Anonymous No.12043262]

>>12043255
Kill yourself then

[Anonymous No.12043263]

>>12043255
And there's nothing Space can do to fucking stop us. Bend over abyss, you belong to Humans now.

[Anonymous No.12043266]

>>12043255

[Anonymous No.12043274]

>>12043216
>>12043240
based as fuck

[Anonymous No.12043276]

>>12043255
based and truthpilled

[Anonymous No.12043283]

>>12043189
Humans should not go into space. The distance between the Earth and the Sun is 2,857,949,000 miles (4.547x10^9), which makes it a long way to travel if one wishes to reach another star system of interest for exploration or colonization purposes. It would be far easier to just colonize planets that orbit other stars within our own solar system. Also, human beings are too fragile to withstand the rigors of space travel. As we have seen in hundreds of science-fiction movies and TV shows, humans would not be able to survive the acceleration required for an Earth spacecraft to reach escape velocity.
The spacecraft itself would need to be incredibly large, and I suppose with state-of-the art technology we could create something that is capable of transporting humans into space. But what about the spaceship's crew? What happens if a meteor hits it? The crew dies. Also, let's suppose for the sake of argument that humans can somehow build a large spacecraft capable of transporting human beings to another star system. Once they arrive, what do they do? The planet will be completely foreign and alien to them.
Furthermore, in a hypothetical scenario where humans somehow survive the rigors of space travel and successfully colonize another planet, we must consider what happens if they ever visit Earth. Because human beings are too fragile to withstand deep-space travel, as outlined above.
So, on the one hand we have a human civilization that exists in space, and which would be completely cut off from Earth. On the other hand we have a human civilization living on Earth. The humans living in space might want to visit their 'home' planet at some point.

[Anonymous No.12043289]

>>12043283

[Anonymous No.12043292]

When does the stacking stop?

[Anonymous No.12043295]

>>12043283
None of that is true tho

[Anonymous No.12043303]

ATTENTION /sfg/! Elon's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts has graciously donated to us a barrel section.
Draw, doodle, paint, "weld" anything you want on the barrel section, and remember to upload it back for the next autist.

[Anonymous No.12043322]

Superheavy stacking when?

[Anonymous No.12043326]

>>12043283
>Humans should not go into space.
stopped reading, leave the thread and stop complaining you whiny faggot

[Anonymous No.12043330]

>>12043292
based on
>>12043322
it should be this level and the next one, then roof

[Anonymous No.12043334]

>>12043303

[Anonymous No.12043336]

>>12043255
Yes.
I'm diving dick deep into the void and nobody can stop me.

[Anonymous No.12043386]

>>12043292
Once god starts smiting all the cheap labor to speak in weird tongues. Oh wait that didn‘t help this time.
Guessing Mars is the limit.

[Anonymous No.12043395]

[Anonymous No.12043399]

>>12043283
...did u have several strokes while mqking this post or is this copypasta?

[Anonymous No.12043416]

>>12043395

[Anonymous No.12043418]

>>12043386
Nimrod was just rarted, he just needed to invent super strong metamaterials to build a space elevator instead of an orbital tower.

[Anonymous No.12043426]

>>12043283
get the fuck out of this thread philosopherai

[Anonymous No.12043432]

>>12043418
Stone can't actually do this.

[Anonymous No.12043439]

>>12043426
I refuse

[Anonymous No.12043445]

>>12043432
Why not?

[Anonymous No.12043454]

>>12043445
Because it's not that strong.

[Anonymous No.12043469]

>>12043248
I vaguely remember some story about when everyone lived in space and argued whether or not Earth should be broken up for material out of all planets
the Earther's only argument against it was ancestral homeland or something and everyone told them to fuck of with that and blew it up (or maybe not idr)

anyone knows what am I talking about or it that product of my imagination?

[Anonymous No.12043470]

>>12043445
The weight of the structures on top would crush those bellow. The pyramids are built the way they are so the base can actually support the rest of the building.

[Anonymous No.12043473]

>>12043193
Yes, big smelly brown ones.

[Anonymous No.12043475]

>>12043473
imagine the taste!

[Anonymous No.12043488]

>>12043416

[Anonymous No.12043528]

>>12043209
>20 years away
50 at the earliest for small scale prototypes

[Anonymous No.12043531]

>>12043255
Find a tall cliff (over 100 feet) and jump off it. Don't bring a parachute.

[Anonymous No.12043535]

>>12043283
fucking philosopher ai

[Anonymous No.12043539]

>>12043418
apparently the tower of babel mentioned in the bible was a neo-babylonian ziggurat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etemenanki

[Anonymous No.12043542]

I hope Boeing goes out of business

[Anonymous No.12043550]

>>12043528
Even that is unlikely, honestly.

[Anonymous No.12043555]

Starship will never fly, you know deep down it's true

[Anonymous No.12043558]

Hop when?

[Anonymous No.12043561]

>>12043555
¿Qué?

[Anonymous No.12043564]

>>12043558
planned on the 28th

[Anonymous No.12043566]

>>12043555
You are a faggot, deep down you know it's true.

[Anonymous No.12043569]

>>12043550
O’Neil Cylinders are huge as shit. Like even one “just” a kilometer across and a kilometer wide would be thousands of times heavier than the ISS.

[Anonymous No.12043571]

>>12043561
That's a trashcan, very representative of SpaceX as a whole

[Anonymous No.12043575]

>>12043571
No more new rockets will ever fly, deep down, you know its true.

[Anonymous No.12043576]

>>12043539
>"by means of the vast mind that the god who created me let me possess, I deliberated with my great intellect, I commissioned the wisest experts and the surveyor established the dimensions with the twelve-cubit rule."
I see Marduk commissioned a /sci/ poster.

[Anonymous No.12043577]

>>12043571
here. (you) can leave now

[Anonymous No.12043582]

>>12043571
Why the hate brother?

[Anonymous No.12043585]

>>12043569
That's why New Glenn is focused on delivering large payloads to high orbits without refueling, and reusability. Boost a bunch of construction robots to the moon or a Lagrange point, then start harvesting lunar/NEA materials to build it.

[Anonymous No.12043588]

>>12043399
It's AI generated.

[Anonymous No.12043589]

>>12043576
i'm not saying that was actually the tower of babel, i'm just saying that whoever wrote the old testament probably got inspired by it

[Anonymous No.12043591]

>>12043571
yeah, but that trashcan is flying

[Anonymous No.12043595]

>>12043322
probably starting sometime in mid september

[Anonymous No.12043596]

would the hop be next week noaw?

[Anonymous No.12043600]

so we already know the boeing shills are coping with the sn5 150m hop by saying its just a "trashcan". how will they cope with SN8 doing a 20 klick hop and landing

[Anonymous No.12043603]

>>12043596
>next week
no its this week, friday

[Anonymous No.12043604]

>>12043596
Fri/Sat/Sun

[Anonymous No.12043609]

>>12043600
Hopefully with a nice rope around their necks

[Anonymous No.12043618]

>>12043418
>all of humanity working together to get off of this rock
>god gets penis envy and creates all division and human strife out of spite, to keep us unorganized and manageable
One of these days we‘ll get there. One of these days we‘ll get over this, ascend and put the fear of man into god.

[Anonymous No.12043622]

How dense will Methane be in Starship? I heard they are cooling it down further to make it denser.

[Anonymous No.12043627]

>>12043600
>Its trashcan that can fly high.
Orbital
>Its trashcan that can go to orbit
Mars
>Its trascan that can land on Mars.

[Anonymous No.12043632]

>>12043622
When taking LOX consumption difference into account, I've heard it will be roughly 20% less dense than current SpaceX subcooled kerolox.
Which is really not that bad since you don't need helium and plumbing for that too.

[Anonymous No.12043639]

>>12043618
Cool teenager /r/atheism understanding of God and that story

[Anonymous No.12043643]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr4YjSLxsgE

It's coming motherfuckers

We can begin the grand task of assembling proper space tugs in orbit, fitted with ultra-efficient next-gen fusion engines. Deshi basara.

[Anonymous No.12043646]

>>12043203
Wouldn’t O’Neil cylinders require massively more launch capacity than terraforming+colonizing?
Because I’m assuming the cylinders would mostly have to be brought up from earth or wherever they’re made.
It would be cool once we have the necessary industrial apparatus in orbit tho

[Anonymous No.12043668]

>>12043488

[Anonymous No.12043675]

>>12043646
Nah that would be too expensive, earth's gravity well is too strong.
O'Neil cylinders would mainly be build from asteroid and moon materials.
That's one of the reasons why the moon is so important, we can just build big railguns and shoot the mined materials into space!

[Anonymous No.12043677]

>>12043255
I'm 14 and this is deep

[Anonymous No.12043679]

>>12043632
Kerolox density = 1097 kg/m3
Methalox density = 900 kg/m3
Tom Mueller's latest figures.

Oh and LH2? 70 kg/m3.

[Anonymous No.12043688]

>>12043639
I‘m sure your theology degree will get you lots of interesting jobs. Try not to get molested or do any molesting.

[Anonymous No.12043691]

>>12043679

[Anonymous No.12043693]

The first man on Mars and the 48th President of the United States

[Anonymous No.12043695]

>>12043679
>LH2
OH NO NO NO NO LOOK AT HIS DENSITY.
LOOK AT THE SIZE OF HIS TANKS!

[Anonymous No.12043696]

>>12043675
Ok so it’s not feasible to move industry(and O’Neill cylinders im assuming) up from the earth to orbit.
So is the moon”s gravity weak enough to make it economical to have industry there?
I’d think it’s more efficient to just grab asteroids and live inside them than making O’Neil cylinders on the moon.

[Anonymous No.12043702]

>>12043691
Shit, why don't we use hexadecane? I know that'd suck for reusability due to coking, but couldn't we use it for some really powerful expendable first stages?

[Anonymous No.12043703]

>>12043691
Yes, if we were talking just the methane. We're talking about the methane + LOX.
Hydrolox is 395kg/m3 at 14/64K. Mixing rate of 6:1.

[Anonymous No.12043707]

>>12043283
Nice thesis. Would be a shame if I didn't read any of it.

[Anonymous No.12043713]

Methane nuclear thermal rocket when?

[Anonymous No.12043715]

>>12043688
Thinking you need a theology degree to not have a braindead conception of God proves my point.

[Anonymous No.12043718]

>>12043693
This guy is rad.

[Anonymous No.12043722]

>>12043695
Hey, it's pretty much the only option for nuclear due to its molar mass, so there's that.

[Anonymous No.12043730]

>>12043696
>Ok so it’s not feasible to move industry(and O’Neill cylinders im assuming) up from the earth to orbit.
Not directly. You launch the construction crews and tools from Earth and raw materials from the moon like >>12043675 said. Then once you've got orbital construction going, you set up a communications array on the cylinder and transmit your industrial IP electronically to build the machines from space rocks, and ship up things you can't yet build in space like circuit boards.

[Anonymous No.12043732]

>>12043722
*correction, molecular mass, not molar

[Anonymous No.12043741]

>>12043696
Honestly both are really good, it's not really an "or" question rather it's something we would do at the same time.
But the really neat thing about the moon is it's closeness, remember with these mass drivers you can easily shoot material to Mars, Venus or any other object.

[Anonymous No.12043791]

Ocean spaceports confirmed!

[Anonymous No.12043794]

starship launching from tanegashima WHEN

[Anonymous No.12043840]

>>12043791
aren't sea launch starships/superheavies all but confirmed?

[Anonymous No.12043843]

>>12043840
That's literally what Elon just posted.

[Anonymous No.12043849]

>>12043715
Oh no. If only there was a way for you to objectively prove that my concept of god is faulty! You‘d look so smart in this argument now!

[Anonymous No.12043851]

>>12043843
oh sorry I didn't see Elon's tweet at the bottom lol

[Anonymous No.12043853]

>>12043791
No surface oceans on the Moon/Mars. What is SpaceX going to do?

[Anonymous No.12043856]

>>12043840
Yes, Elon's already said they will do both land and sea launches. The only new information here is the proportion which a lot of people assumed based on BC's proximity to population centers

[Anonymous No.12043858]

>>12043853
terraform

[Anonymous No.12043863]

>>12043853
There's not much there to be damaged, and sound will most likely not be a problem

[Anonymous No.12043894]

>>12043643
wow, 2000 Isp. If that thing doesn't get at least two orders of magnitude more thrust-to-mass than an ion drive, it's fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.12043901]

>>12043646
More than colonizing, yes. More than terraforming, no. Terraforming requires you to be able to move masses equivalent to the entire asteroid belt around the solar system.

[Anonymous No.12043902]

>>12043853
MAKE ONE.

[Anonymous No.12043904]

>>12043722
wrong, methane is still king, unless you're a belter, in which case you might as well do nuclear steam kettle, or a nigger, in which case you might as well do carbon dioxide

[Anonymous No.12043907]

>>12043679
>Oh and LH2? 70 kg/m3.
this kills the mass fraction

[Anonymous No.12043920]

>>12043722
>>12043732
Methane gets you >600 Isp at ~7x the density, which puts it basically on par with ~1000 Isp hydrogen because of the huge decrease in tank mass fraction.

[Anonymous No.12043925]

>>12043791
>mostly
and
>long term
Means don't expect ocean platforms for a while until the space economy explodes and there's need for tens of thousands of Starship launches annually.

[Anonymous No.12043931]

>>12043904
>unless you're a belter, in which case you might as well do nuclear steam kettle
If you're a belter you don't even need nuclear unless you're trying to get out of the belt. You can use a solar powered electric steam kettle engine to putt around from rock to rock.

[Anonymous No.12043941]

>>12043791
I kinda find it amusing that Elon brings up Starship info in replies to non-Starship tweets.

[Anonymous No.12043949]

>>12043931
>water/solar resistojet
I like it

[Anonymous No.12043964]

>>12043925
yeah, probably not til 2030s at the earliest

[Anonymous No.12043981]

>>12043964
>2030s

Fuck I remember the pre-SpaceX days where NASA always said “hey the cool stuff happens eventually just wait until the 2030s :)”. What a time to be alive.

[Anonymous No.12043998]

>>12043981
If it wasn't for SpaceX by 2050 at most we might have a 12 person science outpost at mars, and that would be really really optimistic. With SpaceX, we might have in the tens of thousands of people on Mars by 2050, possibly up to over a hundred thousand.

[Anonymous No.12044002]

>>12043998
Teraform that fucker with sheer human BTUs.

[Anonymous No.12044009]

Truly the best time to be alive lads
THE
FUTURE
IS
BRIGHT

[Anonymous No.12044019]

>>12043904
Nuclear-thermal rockets have the highest exhaust velocity when a propellant gas with the lowest-possible molecular weight is heated in the core of the reactor. H2 is the lowest.

[Anonymous No.12044025]

>>12044019
You still have all the other downsides of LH2. Methane NT gets you about 80% the Isp and better thrust.

[Anonymous No.12044026]

>>12043791
>needing platforms to launch from sea
How far we have fallen..

[Anonymous No.12044027]

>>12044019
chasing ISP will get you nowhere
if you can dissociate methane you've hardly dented your ISP and increased your bulk density by several times, leading directly to better dry mass

[Anonymous No.12044033]

>>12044026
Starship is reusable, and rust does bad things to reusability

[Anonymous No.12044035]

>>12044026
If you're launching four SH/SS stacks for every Sea Dragon you would otherwise have launched, you come out ahead on payload with full reusability.

[Anonymous No.12044036]

>>12044026
We have been over this, Seadragon would never work.

[Anonymous No.12044040]

>>12044036
Ironically it would work better as a nuclear lightbulb than as a chemical rocket. Combustion instability isn't a problem if no combustion is taking place, and with a diameter of "your mom" he LH2 tank weight meme is less of a problem than with smaller rockets.

[Anonymous No.12044107]

>>12043454
Stone is plenty strong when it's under compression, how do you think mountains get so tall?

[Anonymous No.12044118]

>>12044026
https://youtu.be/aGCdLKXNF3w

[Anonymous No.12044127]

>>12044107
Not when those narrow ass columns are the only support

[Anonymous No.12044136]

>>12044026
>>12044118
I hope they keep the Sea Dragon in the 2nd season. The trailer makes it look like they're going to shuttle architecture instead.

[Anonymous No.12044144]

>>12044026
I hate this clip so god damned much

[Anonymous No.12044149]

>>12044136
Yea, hopefully they utilize both. A lunar shuttle is kinda goofy but not totally unreasonable as a crew transporter.

[Anonymous No.12044155]

>>12044149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mIRFxYYaC0

[Anonymous No.12044174]

>>12044107
Have you noticed how mountains tend to have very wide bases compared to their peaks?

[Anonymous No.12044180]

>>12044144
it's got so much wrong, yeah

[Anonymous No.12044184]

>>12044155
Yea I saw that. I'm okay with the lunar shuttle concept though as the show is fictional and they can just say "upgraded tiles lol" or whatever to ignore the technical problems.

[Anonymous No.12044187]

...The hops gonna get delayed, huh?

[Anonymous No.12044190]

>>12044187
HOP

[Anonymous No.12044191]

>>12044184
lunar shuttles make literally no sense

[Anonymous No.12044196]

>>12044187
says who?

[Anonymous No.12044198]

>>12044191

[Anonymous No.12044201]

>>12044196
me

[Anonymous No.12044210]

>>12043639
>cuckstianity cultist wanders into a science thread, gets confused and angry

[Anonymous No.12044223]

Hahahahah we won’t see a green run until 2023

[Anonymous No.12044228]

>>12043571

[Anonymous No.12044230]

>>12044210
:^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njpWalYduU4

[Anonymous No.12044232]

>>12043189
Glory to Free Mars!

[Anonymous No.12044236]

>>12044223
hahaha omg how long does it take to lash down an aluminum tank omg

[Anonymous No.12044244]

>>12044236
Space is hard!

[Anonymous No.12044251]

>>12044191
I know, but I could see situations where they might use one in the show in a makeshift way.
Can't really complain too much just from what we see in the trailer.

[Anonymous No.12044257]

>>12044223
Unironically hope SLS blows up bros I swear I'm not a doomer

[Anonymous No.12044258]

>>12044223
The first full-stack SS/SH will fly before SLS does

[Anonymous No.12044265]

>>12044230
; )
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DLzxrzFCyOs

[Anonymous No.12044269]

>>12044210
Atheists are more likely to be depressed, commit suicide, and have less children. They are zombies.

[Anonymous No.12044272]

>>12044244
I was working on site the day before a hurricane hit, and hit the road with tropical storm force winds gusting in.
It very much makes sense for most people to leave early. Manufacturing? Not so much.

[Anonymous No.12044274]

>>12044009
Cant believe I agree given how much of a doomer I was barely 2 years ago.

[Anonymous No.12044282]

>>12044223
>Safely returns to site 2 months later
>Takes a nap

[Anonymous No.12044287]

>>12043894
Where are you even getting 2000 isp from?

[Anonymous No.12044297]

>>12044269
Delusion is comforting, reality can be depressing. And "muh dick" is hardly admirable. There's a reason scientists are almost always atheists.

[Anonymous No.12044299]

>>12044274
The future is fucking horrifying. The west has a few decades left at most

[Anonymous No.12044300]

Everyone asks how long until Starship goes to Mars, but how long until Starship starts delivering satellites to LEO?

[Anonymous No.12044305]

>>12044297
>Sure I may be depressed, unhappy, and sterile, but haha logic n fakts

Evolution culls atheists.

[Anonymous No.12044306]

>>12044269
>Blindly believing a book of jewish fairy tales
>But it's the skeptical people who are zombies

[Anonymous No.12044308]

>>12044306
Yes, because they’re less happy and have less kids. Atheists reek of death and decline.

[Anonymous No.12044312]

>>12044300
Next year if you're an optimist, more likely 2022.

[Anonymous No.12044313]

>>12043571

[Anonymous No.12044317]

>>12044308
>>12044305
>t. schizo

[Anonymous No.12044318]

>>12044306
Normies experience massive brain problems if they don't believe they're special, that they matter, that their life matters, etc. Statistically speaking they are unable to handle it. Whether religion is true or not is sort of beside the point - we need to have a religion or another set of comforting lies that fulfills the same purpose or people will become crazy degenerates, like Lovecraft predicted.

[Anonymous No.12044322]

T A N E G A S H I M A

[Anonymous No.12044330]

new autistic baby SLS launch when?

[Anonymous No.12044337]

>>12043203
bo is a meme but cylinders are more realistic than terraforming planets

[Anonymous No.12044344]

>>12043255
Yes.

[Anonymous No.12044348]

>>12044322
White cliffs are always aesthetic

[Anonymous No.12044353]

>>12044317
I’m atheist so I dunno what you’re trying to say. It’s empirically verifiable that religious people are more mentally sound.

[Anonymous No.12044371]

>>12044223
Is there a bigger meme in the space industry than SLS??? Maybe JWST??

[Anonymous No.12044381]

>>12043189
When's the next launch

[Anonymous No.12044394]

>>12044381
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
august 26th but its ULA so it'll get delated lol

[Anonymous No.12044404]

>>12044394
delayed*

[Anonymous No.12044411]

So- partial terraforming.
Could you "fill" Hellas Basin with an atmosphere that would let humans walk around without pressure suits, sort of like a brine pool on the ocean floor, or do gases not like to behave that way?

[Anonymous No.12044420]

>>12044300
starlink next year, expect a couple failures, and then commercial customers launching once starship has proven itself with a few dozen launches in 2022

[Anonymous No.12044425]

>>12044411
gasses do absolutely work that way, but you'd need something like sulphur hexaflouride, it definitely wouldn't be breathable. might as well just dome over the whole place.

[Anonymous No.12044431]

>>12044411
I think the bigger concern would be the regolith and rocks reacting with the gases. Do we know what perchlorate-heavy regolith reacts like in the presence of human-breathable air?

[Anonymous No.12044438]

>>12044411
I was thinking the same desu, and some parts of valles marineris is just as good for this, marineris is deeper and the temperature is higher, and there is more surface area! Also for early colonization don't forget about caves too, these are not earth sized, some of them are as big as a city!

[Anonymous No.12044441]

>>12044223
GUYS! DID YOU KNOW - GUYS!
DID YOU KNOW THERE WERE TROPICAL STORMS IN FLORIDA?
TOTALLY UNFORESEEABLE!

[Anonymous No.12044444]

Why does Japan love SLS so much? Is this a radiation thing?

[Anonymous No.12044460]

>>12044411
it's not quite tall enough
easier to just dome it over

[Anonymous No.12044481]

>>12044444
Checked. MOAR HYDROLOGS :DDD plus SRBs is sort of a local optimum for expendable boosters - you need to get to 100+ tons to orbit before the shortcomings are apparent (the Shuttle was like 80t to LEO counting the orbiter itself), which is why the Shuttle, Delta IV, Ariane V, and Japanese H rockets all work(ed) fine and do some things better than Falcon Heavy, but there's just nothing that SLS does better than Starship.

[Anonymous No.12044482]

>>12044444
>H-IIA
>$90 Million per flight
>4 Boosters
>Hydrolox upper stage
>Hydrolox Core
>STILL CAN ONLY PUT 4 TONS ONTO GTO

J U S T
U
S
T

[Anonymous No.12044483]

>>12044299
Faggot

[Anonymous No.12044490]

I don't really follow space shit that much but when SLS is done, itll be reusable right? It's been in development for close to 10 years I think so they surely wouldn't have it be a 1 time rocket that can't be reused right? Or once the 1st one is made they can churn out others in like a year or less no? What's the deal here I dont follow

[Anonymous No.12044493]

>>12044198
that isn't a lunar shuttle

[Anonymous No.12044494]

>>12044490
Cute

[Anonymous No.12044495]

>>12044490
your faith in NASA is admirable. foolish, but admirable nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.12044497]

>>12044306
when you're on 4chan you cant tell if you're talking to a fedora tipping sjw atheist or varg vikernes

[Anonymous No.12044498]

>>12044493
yes it is

[Anonymous No.12044500]

>>12044411
you don't need anywhere the same pressure as on earth to be massively beneficial-just enough that people don't need pressure suits to avoid their blood boiling and can walk around with heavy coats and oxygen masks. That's the Armstrong limit and it's only about six times what pressure exists on the lowest parts of mars.
Another cool side benefit of a thicker atmosphere that is often ignored is radiation exposure reduction. Even the current thin martian atmosphere can pull off decent radiation reduction in the lower portions of the planet, by about 50%.

Filling up a low area of the planet with extra atmosphere is a great idea,far easier than full blown terraforming.

[Anonymous No.12044506]

>>12044498
Starship is technically a "space shuttle" in the most literal interpretation of the phrase.

[Anonymous No.12044513]

>>12044411
>>12044425
>>12044500
I don't know enough about physics to know if this is retarded or not

[Anonymous No.12044515]

>>12044506
it's much more faithful to the original specifications than STS was

[Anonymous No.12044527]

>>12044500
For a 100 times air pressure increase. We hit La Paz, Peru conditions at Martian lower elevations. Shorts in the summer and just supplement oxygen for hard labor.

[Anonymous No.12044530]

>>12044497
There’s also Nazis, libertarians, and genuine christians.

[Anonymous No.12044537]

>>12044513
Cowboy Bebop Mars

A city stare in a massive crater. Ringed by some wall device. That was keeping the atmosphere mostly inside the crater.

[Anonymous No.12044539]

>>12044537
yeah, those don't work and operated on handwavium

[Anonymous No.12044543]

>>12044438
Hellas is the deepest m80

[Anonymous No.12044546]

What's your favourite rocket Anon? Mine are the Thor-Agena rockets

[Anonymous No.12044552]

>>12044546
Atlas-Centaur

[Anonymous No.12044556]

>>12044546
delta 2 7300

[Anonymous No.12044558]

>>12044546
SLS!

[Anonymous No.12044562]

>>12044556
That's the most phallic rocket I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.12044564]

>>12044558
based

[Anonymous No.12044569]

>>12044546
N1

[Anonymous No.12044574]

>>12044546
Unha-3

[Anonymous No.12044576]

>>12044558
Y tho? Is it because of the statement that NASA doesn't need to make a good rocket when they get more money anyways

[Anonymous No.12044581]

[Anonymous No.12044583]

>>12044576
This pic makes me sad. SLS could’ve been really cool but alas, it wasn’t. Too bad bro’s too bad.

[Anonymous No.12044585]

>>12044490
>Or once the 1st one is made they can churn out others in like a year or less no? What's the deal here I dont follow
something like this. the government will force them to ramp up production and they'll start making around 1 a year once the first flight has happened. SLS is going to be used for the entirety of artemis

[Anonymous No.12044589]

why are the orange tanks fucking orange
couldnt you make them white or some other color that doesnt look so awful

[Anonymous No.12044591]

>>12044583
>kerelox F-1B boosters
actually would have made SLS a good vehicle

[Anonymous No.12044597]

>>12044589
that's just the color of the foam
they start out kinda bright yellow-white and darken after sitting around in the sun because FUCKING INEFFICIENT SHUTTLE CONTRACTORS

[Anonymous No.12044600]

>>12044597
just use white foam instead

[Anonymous No.12044603]

>>12044600
the foam is orange

[Anonymous No.12044607]

>>12044583
It could have been even COOLER

[Anonymous No.12044608]

>>12044603
use the white stuff home depot has

[Anonymous No.12044611]

>>12044600
Nah. Red. Red makes you faster.

[Anonymous No.12044615]

[Anonymous No.12044616]

>>12044608
THE FOAM
IS ORANGE

[Anonymous No.12044618]

According to the engineer, SpaceX suits are more about “creating the look of Hollywood superheroes” rather than safety, explaining that the Americans “have always been at their best in public relations.”

“This is not really a spacesuit. It is personal protective equipment, sent from Earth to the International Space Center (ISS) by fashion designer Jose Fernandez,” he explained.

[Anonymous No.12044622]

>>12044615
falcon double heavy when

[Anonymous No.12044624]

>>12044608
>>12044616
NOOOO THINK OF ALL THE ORANGE PAINTERS YOU CAN EMPLOY!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.12044627]

>>12044624
kek

[Anonymous No.12044631]

>>12043203
Definitely cylinders, but they're a pipe dream (pun intnded) for at least a couple hundred more years. Same goes for terraforming.
Colonizing Mars however, whether in caves or shielded surface structures is comparatively easy. We know we can get stuff to Mars, as evidenced by dozens of missions, so the only issue is to increase the volume sufficiently and develop the machinery to establish the base which all seems fairly straightforward. If Musk can get Starship to work (or somebody else creates something as cheap) I see no reason why we can't have a Mars colony by 2050. It's a funding issue, we already have 90% of the required technology.

[Anonymous No.12044633]

why dont they just make the tank out of a big thermos bottle instead of dumb foam??

[Anonymous No.12044634]

>>12044618
yeah, it's just a bag that keeps your atmosphere in with you in case that the craft loses pressure
the outside of the bag was designed by a hollywood fashion designer
it incorporates some nifty technology at the joints and especially the gloves in order to keep you semi-mobile while inflated

[Anonymous No.12044635]

>>12044618
It’s just a pressure suit in case the capsule depressurizes

[Anonymous No.12044664]

>>12044513
Not worth it. I don't think atmospheric loss would be as bad from a crater as people think-remember that our goal is only to get a bit above the armstrong limit,maybe with a safety margin of like 30% at the lowest part of the crater. This crater is really really deep,by the time you get up to the top the pressure gradient would probably be almost balanced out.

You could just supply outside co2 through a series of pumps and condensers to keep things comfy. no big deal.

[Anonymous No.12044669]

>>12044607
>That last variant
That's some kerbal space shit, i love it

[Anonymous No.12044689]

So why are the photographs so bad?

[Anonymous No.12044697]

>>12044689
shits far away

[Anonymous No.12044705]

>>12044689
Soviets didn't even manage to make photo of Mars once.

[Anonymous No.12044707]

>>12044689
It’s an ugly ass planet with no visible life to rework the regolith, no oceans spanning the surface, and a fistful of dust to make the atmosphere ugly. It’s literally a shithole. If any of you actually somehow make it out there to Musk’s city, you’ll likely live the rest of your life depressed because the romanticized martian lifestyle is actually a dreary and dull struggle for survival. Unless you’re a geologist, in which case everything looks cool!

[Anonymous No.12044711]

>>12044707
Mars is beautiful

[Anonymous No.12044715]

>>12044711
It's like Planet Arizona. Kind of cool.

[Anonymous No.12044717]

>>12044616
Can't wait for the "ORANGE TANK BAD!" meme as a last reverse psychology effort to save SLS

[Anonymous No.12044718]

>>12044707
rocks r kool

[Anonymous No.12044723]

>>12044707
You see a wasteland, I see clay waiting for the hand of man.

[Anonymous No.12044734]

>>12044707
I was referring the the quality, rather than the content.

[Anonymous No.12044741]

>>12044734
*to

[Anonymous No.12044755]

>>12044618
Russians are seething losers

[Anonymous No.12044770]

>>12044707
Living on Mars would be extremely rewarding and life changing.... Assuming you could get a return ticket back to Earth after a year or two. Fuck being stuck there forever and being a space wagie.

[Anonymous No.12044779]

Wish my shitty country had a space agency bros

[Anonymous No.12044781]

>>12044779
What cunt?

[Anonymous No.12044791]

>>12044781
Latvia :(

[Anonymous No.12044801]

>>12044791
cute country

[Anonymous No.12044806]

>>12044770
Given that humanity needs to embed itself there forever, it would be selfish to seek a return to Earth.

[Anonymous No.12044807]

>>12044801
yes :)

[Anonymous No.12044819]

ORBITAL LAUNCH MOUNT
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1298025540742524928
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1298025540742524928
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1298025540742524928

[Anonymous No.12044827]

>>12044819
Why do they just need a shitty flame trench (Even compared to soyuz)

[Anonymous No.12044829]

>>12044819
It was pretty obvious that it was a launch pad. Just look at that massive steel ramp.

[Anonymous No.12044830]

>>12044819
whats an orbital launch mount

[Anonymous No.12044833]

>>12044830
Second thing from the right >>12043322

[Anonymous No.12044844]

>>12044833
Why not call it the UFO catcher

[Anonymous No.12044846]

>>12044829
there's no steel ramp in Boca Chica yet, it's only a bunch of pilings and some big pipes to hold concrete

[Anonymous No.12044853]

>>12044830
this thing, apparently
https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1297521159173476352/photo/1

[Anonymous No.12044855]

>>12044846
Didn't someone post a picture of it here?

[Anonymous No.12044858]

>>12044855
you can look at it right here: >>12044853

there's a steel ramp at the Cape in Florida but they stopped working on that for now

[Anonymous No.12044869]

>>12044858
Yeah, that is the one I was thinking of >>12041445

[Anonymous No.12044890]

>>12044791
i for one would welcome a second round of latvian colonies this time in space

[Anonymous No.12044904]

How long does it take to build the orbital launch mount?

[Anonymous No.12044906]

>>12044904
couple days

[Anonymous No.12044915]

>>12044904
The support and flame diverter, less than a week. The entire tower, between a month or two.

[Anonymous No.12044940]

>>12044915
>The entire tower, between a month or two.
Perhaps they won't build the tower until later on in the development process when the full stack is ready, otherwise they risk a RUD bringing it down.

[Anonymous No.12044970]

>>12044318
Most normies are materalist and irreligious. Lovecraft's best friend was a Christian that made Conan

[Anonymous No.12044971]

>>12044970
>Most normies are materalist and irreligious.
Yes, and what has that done for birth rates?

[Anonymous No.12044983]

>>12044971
Oh I know. They also accept shit like the drag time story hour among other things. Its freaky to see people turn insane I'm half expecting so evil being to rise up by the end of this year.

[Anonymous No.12044985]

>>12044853
>here's your heavy-duty orbital launch pad bro

[Anonymous No.12044993]

Bros
how the fuck does SpaceX build shit so fast?? I'm betting they have an underground slave factory going on in Boca Chica

[Anonymous No.12045004]

>>12044993
Elon told all the mexicans that they can have the alamo back if they finish their work on schedule

[Anonymous No.12045007]

[Anonymous No.12045009]

>>12045007
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.12045014]

>>12045007
Hahahah

[Anonymous No.12045022]

>>12044993
Hyperloop is just a facade, part of the funds get diverted to pay for tunnels in the border

[Anonymous No.12045033]

Does the boring company even exist still. Hows it doing? Haven't heard of that shit in years

[Anonymous No.12045034]

>>12045033
They're doing good work, but it's not interesting enough to report on.

[Anonymous No.12045037]

>>12044830
A: A mount for an orbital launch
B: A launch mount in orbit.
C: A launch mount that is able to go into orbit.

[Anonymous No.12045042]

>>12045037
D: A launch mount that revolves around another larger launch mount.

[Anonymous No.12045056]

>>12044770
It's like a year and a half until a return window, then it's every synod which is 26 months.
And I think Elon has said that the return trip will be free? The nice thing about Mars is that SS can take off without an extra booster, you just need enough fuel in it. Hopefully they will send enough ISRU equipment on the first trip, which will be completely unmanned.

[Anonymous No.12045066]

>>12044971
>Yes, and what has that done for birth rates?
We no longer need tons of cheap manual labor, anon.

[Anonymous No.12045070]

>>12044993
I see he’s going full von Braun

[Anonymous No.12045080]

>>12045066
we don't even have replacement level birth rates in many western countries, and we still need large amounts of manual labor in this country

[Anonymous No.12045089]

NASA

[Anonymous No.12045090]

>>12045056
If SS can be built on time and be proven to be safe, I would love to live the rest of my life as a scientist who travels to and from Mars. Going for work, staying a few years, coming back home and ordering more supplies to be sent out for my next trip

[Anonymous No.12045093]

>>12043203
If Starship happens we can do both. Cost of mass to LEO is all that's standing in the way and a fully reusable rocket makes the solar system our backyard.

[Anonymous No.12045094]

>>12045089
isn't good at building rockets

[Anonymous No.12045095]

SpaceX is pretty open to the public eye. Are Tesla and Boring the same way?

[Anonymous No.12045099]

>>12045093
i unironically think blue origin is gonna start being serious in 2021 and also being a lot more public about their plans once new glenn launches

[Anonymous No.12045110]

>>12045080
>we don't even have replacement level birth rates in many western countries
Hmm, I wonder what could be causing such low birth rates. Could it be the wage suppression directly caused by immigration, the extremely high housing prices, the disintegration of societal trust and basic law and order? No no no, couldn't be, diversity is our strength.

[Anonymous No.12045115]

A human scale Oneill is probably a while away, even with Starship.

How big would a mouse scale Oneill cylinder need to be?

[Anonymous No.12045117]

>>12045110
i agree with you 100%

[Anonymous No.12045119]

SN5 is also out of the bay, maybe its ready to be moved to the launch pad? Is the second one ready?

[Anonymous No.12045122]

>>12045119
it'd be funny if they hopped two prototypes at the same time

[Anonymous No.12045131]

>>12045119
>That reflection
She’s beautiful. I wish I could find a girl like SN5.

[Anonymous No.12045132]

>>12045122
>starship prototype aerobatics

[Anonymous No.12045137]

>>12045115
I've got it.

You just have four starships.

They're all attached to a central shaft, and there are two pairs spinning in opposite directions.

I

[Anonymous No.12045139]

>>12045119
I cant into rockets what is this thingy

[Anonymous No.12045143]

>>12044269
>>12044297
Both you shut up

[Anonymous No.12045150]

>>12045139
metal

[Anonymous No.12045151]

>>12045139
It’s literally a solid block of metal. That’s it.

[Anonymous No.12045152]

>>12045139
mass simulator

[Anonymous No.12045153]

>Tory Bruno calls reusable rockets costly & inneficient
>ULA will cost tax payer money 2 billion dollars per ULA launch
>ULA is only there to give money to friends and families of american senators.

Holy fucking shit, fuck the american senate, fuck boeing and fuck the US.
Good thing the chinese reusable rocket launch was a success, the chinks will soon crush mutts with a mighty force.

>tfw a communist government is using reusable rockets but america doesn't

[Anonymous No.12045159]

>>12045153
I want to kill these fucking lobbysts in Minecraft. Literally fucking the progress of humanity for money.

[Anonymous No.12045168]

>>12045139
25 tons of scrap steel

[Anonymous No.12045175]

>>12045159
>>12045153

Somebody has to stop the legacy space companies before they completly destroy the progress of space exploration.

Blue Origin priced their shitty, upgraded version of Apollo at 18 billion US dollars, it's like their senate lobbysts are sure that NASA is going to pick them and ditch SpaceX

[Anonymous No.12045176]

>>12045139
They're simulating the weight of ur mom.

[Anonymous No.12045185]

aahhhhhh im gonna LAAAUUNNNCHJH

[Anonymous No.12045191]

>>12045185
UAAAUAUAAUUAAAAAAAAAGHHH IM LAUUUNCHING

[Anonymous No.12045194]

If anyone is interested there's a delta 4 heavy launch tonight at 215 I believe.

[Anonymous No.12045202]

>>12045007
hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.12045206]

>>12045194
one of the very last ones?
is it out of Vandenberg or the Cape?

[Anonymous No.12045209]

>>12045194
I'll try to spot it tonight, doubt I will. Multi core launches are always cool.

>>12045191
Thank you cool KSP anon. Quality.

[Anonymous No.12045211]

>>12045206
Cape

[Anonymous No.12045212]

>>12045194
it's in 3 days
https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1298045906672115717

[Anonymous No.12045222]

>>12045175
>>12045153

If human space exploration is to survive we must end them.

[Anonymous No.12045237]

>>12045131
barrel shaped body and weighs 50 tons?

[Anonymous No.12045238]

For any of you interested in the opinion of the presidential canditates about Space Exploration, Moon and Mars:

>The DNC Biden-Harris 2020 platform specifically mentions NASA, returning Americans to the Moon, and Mars:
>"Democrats continue to support the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and are committed to continuing space exploration and discovery. We believe in continuing the spirit of discovery that has animated NASA’s human space exploration, in addition to its scientific and medical research, technological innovation, and educational mission that allows us to better understand our own planet and place in the universe. We will strengthen support for the United States' role in space through our continued presence on the International Space Station, working in partnership with the international community to continue scientific and medical innovation. We support NASA's work to return Americans to the moon and go beyond to Mars, taking the next step in exploring our solar system. Democrats additionally support strengthening NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Earth observation missions to better understand how climate change is impacting our home planet."

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-21-DRAFT-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf

>The Trump Campaign has announced a 49 point agenda for his second term that includes:
>"Launch Space Force, Establish Permanent Manned Presence on The Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars"

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-campaign-announces-president-trumps-2nd-term-agenda-fighting-for-you

Trump seems more straightforward about space exploration, but it doesn't seem like Biden will go full Obama on Mars and cancel any project they have.

Cannot lie, I'm with Trump on this for him being completly on point and even giving a schedule on a possible Mars landing: by the end of his second term.

[Anonymous No.12045243]

>>12045206
Cape? More like Cope

[Anonymous No.12045246]

>>12044287
20 km/s exhaust velocity is ~2000 Isp.

[Anonymous No.12045262]

>>12045238
>Campaign promises

[Anonymous No.12045266]

Mining asteroids for resourses is our best hope. I wonder what would be the most precious resourse to find in these asteroids that would help build better space stations. Finding a bunch of gold would be nice if brought back to earth, but how would gold make us survive longer in deep space?

[Anonymous No.12045268]

>>12045238
Not American, not Trump fan, but have to admit based on what you posted I would vote probably vote Trump (atleast from an Aerospace perspective)
The Biden campaign manages to say a lot without saying anything.
Trump campaign is much more straightforward.

[Anonymous No.12045271]

>>12045262
i mean trump has already done pretty well for space just by picking bridenstein

[Anonymous No.12045278]

>>12045238
Moon by 2024 isn't going to happen if SLS keeps delaying. How could they get to Mars by then? Not even Elon is pretending that's a realistic date.

[Anonymous No.12045286]

>>12045278
It could mean "we would start themars space program in my term"

[Anonymous No.12045296]

>>12045238
Biden's space plans are frankly irrelevant when his economic policy as a whole would essentially reduce the US down to third world developing nation status and render any significant backing of spaceflight nonexistent.
When he dies and Kamala turns the US into a failed state, nobody's going to have the money or freedom to fly rockets at all.

[Anonymous No.12045297]

>>12045191
>Ishikawa
Back in elementary school I knew a kid named Ishikawa lol

[Anonymous No.12045302]

>>12045286
Starting a Journey to Mars?

[Anonymous No.12045307]

>>12045302
Are you 12?

[Anonymous No.12045308]

>>12045286
This is what I would do, make a massive investment in multiple Mars shots, have NASA develop the groundwork for habitat development and deployment, basically go all-in ala Apollo. Force the next guy/gal who takes the chair to either finish what I started or be accused of wasting a massive investment of taxpayer money.

[Anonymous No.12045314]

>>12045296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPbnSgKfK44

[Anonymous No.12045320]

>when Starship lands on Mars before SLS first launch

[Anonymous No.12045337]

>>12045296
All empires fall eventually. From the ashes shall rise a phoenix

[Anonymous No.12045341]

>>12045095
Tesla, moreso than SpaceX I would say. But boring company has no public image whatsoever because everyone thinks geology is boring

[Anonymous No.12045344]

>>12045308
it'd be funny to have NASA style exploration missions going on at the same time there is a SpaceX colonization program, but i could unironically see this happening

[Anonymous No.12045354]

>>12045341
NO GEOLOGY IS AWESOME FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.12045360]

>>12045278
When the hell is starship going to be ready?

[Anonymous No.12045368]

>>12045360
Q2 2021 for orbital

[Anonymous No.12045380]

>>12044890
their is certainly the space for new Latvia, in space

[Anonymous No.12045382]

>>12045307
Are you aware of NASA's recent history?

[Anonymous No.12045393]

What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12045398]

>>12045393
>identify
kek

[Anonymous No.12045402]

>>12045393
this can't be real

[Anonymous No.12045403]

>>12045393
Trannies are one thing, but non-binaries are even worse, indisputably playing make-believe because they want attention and lack personality traits

[Anonymous No.12045411]

>>12045393
Is this how the Nasa Furry got in?

[Anonymous No.12045416]

>>12045393
This is why we will never actually get to Mars

[Anonymous No.12045417]

>>12045382
Eh, a real commercial program. Not that "we could maybe try to think of starting to think of a Mara program"

[Anonymous No.12045418]

>>12045411
>Is this how the Nasa Furry got in?
What

[Anonymous No.12045419]

>>12045393

[Anonymous No.12045421]

>>12045393
So i can just identify as a woman and apply? Does this have any consequences? If they argue I'll just accuse them of being transphobic

[Anonymous No.12045433]

>>12045393
What program is this? Is it Nasas or?

[Anonymous No.12045436]

>>12045411
>the Nasa Furry
>there's only one

[Anonymous No.12045442]

>>12045368
I mean for anything remotely Mars related

[Anonymous No.12045448]

>>12045393
Racial discrimination in all its forms is a blight, shame some don't see it this way.

[Anonymous No.12045450]

>>12045448
>the demorats are the real racist
lol 2015 passed my dude

[Anonymous No.12045452]

>>12045450
Being racist is good

[Anonymous No.12045456]

>>12045450
>lol 2015 passed my dude
And nothing's changed. Its only gotten worse.

[Anonymous No.12045457]

>>12045402
>>12045433
I tried finding a source, I think it is from here:
https://karier.co/job/summer-2020-aerospace-internships-all-majors-Deu

[Anonymous No.12045461]

>>12045457
This looks like it's from last year, I can't find the new one but it's the same shit, only it's for summer 2021 instead.

[Anonymous No.12045502]

Damn this is powerful and brave. We can fit most of /sfg/ into this program. Our years of being gay retards are finally going to pay off.
>Salary: $18.00 to $32.00 /hour
>we’ve selected between 36 and 40 Fellows per year.
http://www.brookeowensfellowship.org/faq

[Anonymous No.12045509]

>>12044490
>when SLS is done, itll be reusable right?
*laughs in contractors*

[Anonymous No.12045517]

>>12044993
Mexicans are really good and building rocket fuel tanks and parts

[Anonymous No.12045522]

>>12044993
Elon runs SpaceX like a software company. Iteration speed is king.

[Anonymous No.12045536]

>>12045153
chang pls

[Anonymous No.12045539]

>>12045175
>18 billion dollars
is that the cost of the program? Or the cost to launch and build their lander in orbit?
I know their system will require 3 launches on mostly nonreusable vehicles, and dump 2/3 of it on the moon

[Anonymous No.12045555]

>>12045502
>Fellows

[Anonymous No.12045570]

>>12045555
>Hello fellow nonbinary, agender, bigender, two-spirit, demigender, genderfluid/genderqueer, a transgender woman, or another form of gender minority humanoids.

[Anonymous No.12045573]

>>12045517
Yeah, how else do you think they got all those rockets lying around for that episode of South Park?

[Anonymous No.12045584]

>>12045502
Cringe
Why do people take this Tumblr shit seriously?

[Anonymous No.12045599]

>>12045584
Its a form social control.

[Anonymous No.12045609]

>>12045238
oh, that's nice, a democrat who's explicitly promising not to fuck up NASA

[Anonymous No.12045614]

>>12045584
We live in a world where english majors can get top aerospace jobs simply for identifying as some made up gender or having a vagina. The whole thing started because people wanted to feel unique and now it has become self perpetuating because it's so advantageous for them to take it seriously. They're given special preference and control in exchange for furthering it.

[Anonymous No.12045616]

>>12045614
"Racism" and "sexism" are nonsense words invented by Communists with the explicit goal of weakening the West. They have largely succeeded.

[Anonymous No.12045629]

>>12045609
inb4 all Artemis funding gets dumped into NOAA and another asteroid redirect mission on Biden’s 2nd day in office

[Anonymous No.12045632]

>>12045629
Yes.

[Anonymous No.12045678]

>>12045629
I’d be fine with that, actually

[Anonymous No.12045834]

>>12045139
A weight to simulate the missing nose and payload. Without it the engines would have too much thrust and the center of mass would be god knows where.

[Anonymous No.12045841]

>>12045834
In your mom that’s where it’d be

[Anonymous No.12045926]

>>12045421
This is exactly how it works.

[Anonymous No.12046032]

>>12045421

[Anonymous No.12046133]

>>12045393
Hi, I am faggo- I mean genderqueer individual, can I have job now pls?

[Anonymous No.12046186]

https://youtu.be/f_UFqw3vm0s?t=130

[Anonymous No.12046217]

>>12046032
>My name is Billy and I'm a gay retard
>Congratulations Billy, you're hired!
>t. NASA

[Anonymous No.12046239]

>>12044689
Old-Space demands using the worst equipment available because it's "durable".

[Anonymous No.12046244]

>>12044707
Mars is absolutely kino you nigger savage, fuck off back urf.

[Anonymous No.12046273]

Thinking about the wasted tax payer money lads

[Anonymous No.12046280]

>>12046186
>FEED ME EXPENDABLE LAUNCH VEHICLES

[Anonymous No.12046294]

>>12046032
This is literally how the government awards contracts. You now understand the SLS.

[Anonymous No.12046306]

How long?? 2-3 years?

[Anonymous No.12046313]

>>12046306
Probably 2030 - Starship will need isolated offshore landing platforms.

[Anonymous No.12046382]

How many Starlink satellites are in orbit right now?

[Anonymous No.12046386]

>>12046382
not enough

[Anonymous No.12046387]

>>12046306
We look at this image is some kind of fantastical fiction but it's pretty much exactly what Muskoids are promising

Extremely rapid reuse and relaunch of rockets, making space travel like air travel is today

What a joke lmao

[Anonymous No.12046390]

>>12046382
600ish.

[Anonymous No.12046394]

>>12046387
I'd just like to say that apart from this retard /sfg/ is the nicest thread on this board

[Anonymous No.12046395]

>>12046382

[Anonymous No.12046396]

>>12046382
~500 or so

[Anonymous No.12046401]

>>12046394
completely agree fren, ignoring all the caveman people this thread is maximum comfy

[Anonymous No.12046408]

>starship will be able to launch 400-500 starlink satellites
Constellation finished in only a handful of launches

[Anonymous No.12046413]

propellant is stored in the balls

[Anonymous No.12046415]

>>12046413
Payload is stored in the balls... at least on Soyuz.

[Anonymous No.12046441]

>>12046394
There are a few other retards too. Like those guys that always bring up unrelated pol stuff.
Bit yeah, /sfg/ and /mg/ are the best.

[Anonymous No.12046443]

>>12046441
Starship is a spaceplane

[Anonymous No.12046455]

>>12046443
Thats one way of putting it.

[Anonymous No.12046461]

>>12046455
Seig Zeon
colony drop on Alabama plox

[Anonymous No.12046484]

>>12046443
no its an interplanetary submarine

[Anonymous No.12046488]

>>12046387
>this man cant dream.
What a fucking fag
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.12046490]

>>12046443
>Spaceplane
>Isn't capable of gliding at all
It's literally designed to fall like a brick

[Anonymous No.12046493]

>>12046490
flying is just falling with style

[Anonymous No.12046495]

>>12046488
Dreams are made in reality, and SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis...

[Anonymous No.12046497]

>>12046495
kek

[Anonymous No.12046500]

>>12046394
That's because most of us are cross-boarders, not /sci/tzos. Holy crap whenever I look at page 1 or the catalog it's chock full of retard. Even /x/ wouldn't want them.
>>12046493
It's like Douglas Adams wrote, you simply fall, but miss the ground. That's literally how orbit works.

[Anonymous No.12046504]

>>12045393

[Anonymous No.12046511]

>>12045418
>>12045436
This is the one I was talking about.

[Anonymous No.12046530]

Bros, when will I be able to fly on Titan with my strapped on wings??

[Anonymous No.12046536]

>>12046530
>tfw immediately recognize where this pic is from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3c1QZzRK4&t

[Anonymous No.12046539]

>>12045278
>moon by 2024 isnt going to happen if SLS keeps delaying
you really don't need SLS to work, we already have 2 orbital crew transportation systems avaliable, we just need 1/3 landers and 1/3 commercial super heavy lift vehicles to exist and we can jury rig a commercial moon mission on any LV

[Anonymous No.12046585]

>>12045278
NASA could literally do a moon mission with one of the Artemis Landers by launching Orion on a Falcon heavy, for a fraction the cost of SLS
The Artemis Landers are supposed to be launched up on superheavy/New Glenn/ Vulcan anyways

[Anonymous No.12046594]

>>12046530
Fuck pl*nets, I'm claiming 323 Brucia, slowing it down to a nice stable 1.6-2AU circular orbit, spinning it up and turning it into a deregulated pit-stop between Mars and the inner belt.

[Anonymous No.12046598]

>>12046530
2070s at the earliest.

[Anonymous No.12046670]

>>12046413
I'm going to MANOOOOOOOOOVER!

[Anonymous No.12046674]

why is spacex taking so long to do the next hop

[Anonymous No.12046676]

wonder if you could use hypersonic shock heating to power a thermal rocket
use a mass driver zeroeth stage, hit the atmosphere (S P I N) and use that heating to power your first stage while cooling your rocket during the hot ascent

[Anonymous No.12046749]

>>12046488
A boy has the right to dream.

[Anonymous No.12046762]

>>12046585
I’m pretty sure Big Jim knows this and he just wants SLS to get cancelled ASAP

[Anonymous No.12046777]

>>12046762
>SLS cancelled
>The next day Big Jim goes in twatter and simply posts "Friendship ended with Boing!"

[Anonymous No.12046791]

>>12046777
The Lord’s trips; it will come true

[Anonymous No.12046882]

/Sfg/ Mars terraforming machine when?

[Anonymous No.12046900]

>>12046882
>Terraforming machine.
No such thing, terraforming is a multi-tool process that can't be done by a single machine, unless that machine is a grey goo swarm that can rearrange itself to perform a huge range of functions.

[Anonymous No.12046901]

>>12046882
After reactionless drives

[Anonymous No.12046936]

>>12046495

[Anonymous No.12046944]

>>12046900
If your machine is capable of producing its own tools along with controlling its own machines like an automatic construction yard then it can be done

[Anonymous No.12046964]

>>12046882
Just feed everyone beans and have the toilets vent to the outside when flushed.

[Anonymous No.12046970]

>>12046944
Right, so a grey goo device exactly like what I said in the second half of the sentence. If it's too dumb to optimize itself it won't be able to perform a project on the scale of terraforming which demands an absolutely enormous knowledge base and flexible adaptation to unexpected variables. If it's smart enough to terraform it will be smart enough to optimize itself, it will eventually optimize itself into a universal tool capable of reconfiguring itself or parts of itself to perform any task and adapt to any varaibles in it's environment.

[Anonymous No.12047003]

>>12046964
Imagine

[Anonymous No.12047062]

Anyone have more information on how the fuck MOOSE was supposed to work? The wiki article makes it just seem like a plastic bag full of retard-foam like that shit in Demolition Man. Trying to get some more accurate detail for a thing.

[Anonymous No.12047064]

NASA is way too confident in Boing

[Anonymous No.12047075]

>>12047064
Wait, they missed the ISS and had a bunch of on-orbit fuckups, but they're still gonna put a human on it anyway?

[Anonymous No.12047086]

>>12047064
They sort of have to. NASA fought hard to keep SpaceX in the contract so they can have two providers unlike what Congress wanted which was one provider (Boeing). Turning around and wanting SpaceX to be the sole provider would come across as hypocritical.

[Anonymous No.12047087]

>>12047075
Not sure why NASA thinks three dead astronauts is somehow better than two.

[Anonymous No.12047095]

>>12047075
They still need to do another unmanned test.

[Anonymous No.12047100]

>>12047087
>"NASA extends gratitude to Boeing for their nearly-successful delivery of crew to ISS, and condolences to the families of Boeing's brave crew. Crew listings for Starliner-2 upcoming"

[Anonymous No.12047104]

New bread
>>12047103
>>12047103
>>12047103
>>12047103

[Anonymous No.12047112]

>>12047064
Is that starliner-1 their "demo-2" or "crew-1" mission? (using spacex names)

[Anonymous No.12047246]

>>12047112
They haven't even done a proper "demo-1" yet.

[Anonymous No.12047406]

>>12043255
humans are the host, the virus is a certain subspecies which is hijacking humanity's achievements and reproducing parasitically.