/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1200344]

My boss just a bit ago perfectly summarized the differences between engineers and scientists.

Scientists just stop whenever. Because their work is largely academic, and never practical, there is no clear goal to meet and whenever "enough" data is gathered, you can stop.

Engineering is qualitatively different. When an engineer creates a product that never existed, it is "trivial" because we have some "formula" for torque that the engineer "memorizes." The derision is clear. Fortunately engineers know better, and take the step that scientists fear: getting something done that actually works. Solving fifty small problems working against you. Building the instruments scientists only dimly envision to take the measurements they use to prove to themselves their worth.

But we engineers don't need such pomp and circumstance around us. We invent, we derive, we design and we build, and then we take our boatloads of cash and go home to sleep with our wives.

How's that grant proposal working out, /sci/entists?

[Anonymous No.1200359]

>implying that engineers discovering something are not scientists
>implying that scientists that build something are not engineers
>implying that names matter

[Anonymous No.1200358]

>>1200344
Well, without scientists there is no "start"

[Anonymous No.1200363]

It's kind of like how Liberal Art/Social Science fags look down on Lawfags, even though they are the ones who ultimately put their ideologies and solutions into practice.

[Anonymous No.1200386]

Fuck no OP. The goal in science is not just to collect data, the goal is to understand some phenomenon. You can't just stop when you have data, that's only part of the process.

I'm not even responding to the rest of the post because the money part is just trolling.

[Anonymous No.1200395]

the only thing that draws me is the picture which must mean that OP is a troll so fuck you

[Anonymous No.1200403]

>>1200344
get back to a time without any scientific advances and try building something -oh wait.

[Anonymous No.1200408]

Is the photoshopped face, intentionally very large?

[Anonymous No.1200418]

>>1200408
you just ruined that picture for me ;_;

[Anonymous No.1200423]

>>1200408
yeah this is a more valid question

[Anonymous No.1200436]

I really thought we were mature enough to ignore this one. I am disappoint.

[Anonymous No.1200688]

>>1200363
Social Science fag here. We do not look down on lawfags. We generally treat them as equals.

[Anonymous No.1200953]

Everybody knows engineers are the oompa loompas of science. The brilliant scientific minds create the theories, engineers merely steal our work and make something with it. We toss you a bone so be respectful to your superior.

[Anonymous No.1200979]

>>1200344
>implying science is not competitive

[penis !btr76hqMa6 No.1200981]

As an engineer, I approve of this thread. OP is not a faggot.

[Anonymous No.1200991]

>>1200386
> the goal is to understand some phenomenon. You can't just stop when you have data
As an engineer who works around a shitton of scientists (chemists and physicists) I can say that this is what they'd like to believe. Truth is, I am still investigating the consequences of their little pet theories long after they've demonstrated they can jerk off to the peer review process. They understand shit.

[Anonymous No.1201006]

>>1200991

You just don't understand what they do. Now go fix my tools, oompa loompa.

[Anonymous No.1201515]

>>1201006
> I design the instruments you don't understand
> I am stupid
hahah oh wow

[Anonymous No.1201527]

As an engineer, its my opinion that OP is retarded.

[Anonymous No.1201550]

SO MUCH BUTTHURT SCIENTIST IN THIS THREAD

[Anonymous No.1201572]

>>1200344
>wives
spelled "husbands" wrong

[Anonymous No.1201582]

the real difference: scientists probe the innermost workings of the universe to make the discoveries and provide engineers with the materials, the laws, the properties, and the understanding so that YOU can do your job.

without science you'd still be replacing wagon wheels on the oregon trail

[Anonymous No.1201629]

>>1200344

I approve

[Anonymous No.1201636]

>Implying that scientists don't continue to learn and make new theories
>Implying that engineers can do shit without science
OP's boss is an idiot.

[Anonymous No.1201645]

>>1201582
but without engineers your theories would be useless.
honestly i'm neither scientist nor engineer, i have no idea why i come to /sci/

[Anonymous No.1201661]

as an engineer, I do not like fighting with the /sci/bros :(

lets go beat up some business students instead

[Anonymous No.1201685]

>>1201661
I'm game.

[Anonymous No.1201693]

science art engineering craft

[Anonymous No.1201732]

Obvious troll.. But I will play your game... Firstly engineers are scientist if they are doing that... Secondly engioneers build an create using the tools of science. When was the last time you saw an engieer do shit without paper , a computer, a caclulator. or sove the problem using component he built completely him self. NEVER

Get edumactaed

[Anonymous No.1202054]

>>1201732
>paper , a computer, a caclulator
>Implying scientists created any of those things

[Anonymous No.1202077]

>>1201732
Obvious troll, but I'm still going to feed it.
0/10

[Anonymous No.1202120]

successful troll is successful