If infinity is real, doesn't that mean god is too, if you consider that both are one in the same?

[Anonymous No.11991138]

Why do some physicists deny the existence of god while believing in the multiverse? Unless they are doing it for ideological reasons like hot wheels over here?

[Anonymous No.11991153]

>>11991138
>believing in the multiverse
Who says we do?

It's just a theory. Nothing more.

[Anonymous No.11991163]

>>11991153
I said some bro. Learn to read

[Anonymous No.11991174]

>>11991163
Well in that case the multiverse is used as a way to explain the theoretical constants.

[Anonymous No.11991183]

>>11991174
But does the existence of infinite imply that jeebus is real?

[Anonymous No.11991193]

>>11991183
Umm.. No. Both are mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous No.11991209]

>>11991193
Explain?

[Anonymous No.11991227]

>>11991209
Let's assume infinity exists.
This does not mean that God has to exist.

Now you may say
>But God has infinite powers
Well he could... or could not. We do not know whether he has infinite powers or not. In the sense that God can still be God, but with a finitely large number of powers. He could have so many powers that he wouldn't even be able to use them in the universe's life time. But he would still not have infinite powers.

[Anonymous No.11991243]

>>11991227
I'm saying that god and infinity are the same thing

[Anonymous No.11991248]

>>11991243
Assuming the panentheist narrative is true

[Anonymous No.11991253]

>>11991209
>>11991227
I'm not really proving anything. There really is not way to prove the existence of God.

>>11991243
So infinity has character?

[Anonymous No.11991260]

>>11991253
I'm saying it's beyond our grasp. It's hard for us to define it properly.

[Anonymous No.11991265]

>>11991253
But yes I would say it has an intelligence, infinite ones. We are a form of its intelligence, since we would be considered a part of it.

[Anonymous No.11991268]

>>11991260
But infinity 'can' be defined. God cannot. So infinity is not the same as God.
Maybe infinity is a subset of God?

[Anonymous No.11991276]

>>11991268
I mean I guess you can look at it that way

[Anonymous No.11991283]

>>11991265
That's true for God. But infinity is just a mathematical construct. It has no character, no emotions, no morality.

[Anonymous No.11991294]

>>11991276
We're getting more into theism and some philosophy. Just remember that, even the best of physicist cannot definitely say one or the other. There really is no prove, just speculations.

[Anonymous No.11991310]

>>11991294
Atheism is a bit of a cop out. I just can't find any other explanation to the cosmological argument. God is real bruvs.
https://youtu.be/aLg4AV60uWY

[Anonymous No.11991315]

>>11991294
I'll post that question on /lit/then.

[Anonymous No.11991322]

>>11991310
>God is real bruvs
But the issue of a loving God, letting people suffers, seems weird?

[Anonymous No.11991336]

>>11991138
>If infinity is real
...it isn't -- it's an idea, a mental construct.
>god is too
...the same.

[Anonymous No.11991358]

>>11991322
I don't know im not a christcuck, I don't think god gives a shit about a bunch of niggers starving. Not even niggers give a shit. Can't expect a being beyond time and space to care.

[Anonymous No.11991367]

>>11991336
>...it isn't -- it's an idea, a mental construct.
Its a mathematical one. And I don't wanna argue whether it's a feature of the universe or a model.

[Anonymous No.11991368]

>>11991243
That's a shit definition.
How is "the number of points on a line" the same as "god"?

[Anonymous No.11991373]

>>11991368
I think you might be mentally handicapped.

[Anonymous No.11991374]

>>11991358
>Not even niggers give a shit
Niggs cannot see when you or me suffer. But God is supposed to be omniscient and omnipresent. So he definitely knows when you or I suffer.

[Anonymous No.11991380]

>>11991336
We don't have access to anything other than mental constructs. There is no reason to think that infinity is less valid compared to something like a carbon atom. They are both mental constructs that we gain via sensory information and then label.

[Anonymous No.11991385]

>>11991380
A carbon atom is not a mental construct. A carbon atom definitely exists. Are you talking about how we define a carbon atom? If yes, then that's a mental construct.

[Anonymous No.11991398]

>>11991374
Why would he subscribe to our morality tho that has been tuned by societal evolution to maximize profit for Jews when he is an infinite being not bound by material constraints like us?

[Anonymous No.11991401]

>>11991385
Infinity definitely exists as well. It falls out naturally from many equations that explain the universe.
There is no difference between our definition and the thing in itself when it comes to our perception. We do not have access to things in themselves, only the appearances of things in our minds.

[Anonymous No.11991409]

>>11991398
Because he defined our morals.
>Ten commandments

[Anonymous No.11991411]

Maybe I'm missing something, but if infinity is real, everything physically possible is real, which doesn't necessarily include god

[Anonymous No.11991419]

>>11991401
>Infinity definitely exists as well
It most likely does not, assuming the multiverse theory is incorrect.

[Anonymous No.11991421]

>>11991411
Infinity is god bro.

[Anonymous No.11991422]

>>11991419
So our universe just popped out of existence once and never again? What kind of sense does that make?

[Anonymous No.11991424]

>>11991419
Multiverse isn't necessary.

[Anonymous No.11991430]

>>11991422
>So our universe just popped out of existence once and never again?
Who said it did? Just because we do not have theories to explain the origin, does not warrant you to definitely state that the universe had that specific origin.

[Anonymous No.11991436]

>>11991430
That still doesn't deny infinity.

[Anonymous No.11991438]

>>11991424
Then what's the purported proof of infinity?

[Anonymous No.11991446]

>>11991436
I never denied infinity. I recommended against the idea of settling down on a theory, particularly because our knowledge of the universe is incomplete.

[Anonymous No.11991454]

>>11991446
Suck my dick

[Anonymous No.11991458]

>>11991454
Why?

[Anonymous No.11991464]

>>11991373
I think you might be mentally handicapped.

[Anonymous No.11991470]

>>11991454
>Suck my dick
found the homo

[Anonymous No.11991476]

>>11991438
its an axiom you moron, stop trying to logic your way around physics
physics isnt about logic, its about experiment

[Anonymous No.11991481]

>>11991464
No, u.

[Anonymous No.11991484]

>>11991476
In the mathematical sense, yes infinity is real.
In the physical world, it probably isn't.

[Anonymous No.11991490]

What kind of fulfillment exists from believing god to be something as useless as an endless amount of stuff? Omnipresence is pretty fucking trivial on its own.

[Anonymous No.11991491]

>>11991438
>purported proof of infinity
L0Lno fgt pls

[Anonymous No.11991492]

>>11991438
Black holes

[Anonymous No.11991495]

>>11991491
Retard, I thought he was talking in the physical sense.

[Anonymous No.11991499]

>>11991492
>t. smoothbrain popsci

[Anonymous No.11991502]

>>11991495
Retard, you didn't know WTF he was talking about.

[Anonymous No.11991504]

>>11991499
No,gravitational singularities in fact infinite in density and it is not a matter of our limited understanding nor a flaw in our equations.

[Anonymous No.11991506]

>>11991504

>Infinity definitely exists as well. It falls out naturally from many equations that explain the universe.
>There is no difference between our definition and the thing in itself when it comes to our perception. We do not have access to things in themselves, only the appearances of things in our minds.
>Multiverse isn't necessary.
Where in this does he speak mathematically?

[Anonymous No.11991508]

>>11991502
>>11991506

[Anonymous No.11991515]

>>11991504
>The quantities used to measure gravitational field strength are the scalar invariant curvatures of spacetime, which includes a measure of the density of matter. Since such quantities become infinite at the singularity, the laws of normal spacetime break down
>Many theories in physics have mathematical singularities of one kind or another. Equations for these physical theories predict that the ball of mass of some quantity becomes infinite or increases without limit. This is generally a sign for a missing piece in the theory, as in the ultraviolet catastrophe, re-normalization, and instability of a hydrogen atom predicted by the Larmor formula.

[Anonymous No.11991547]

>>11991515
>mathematical singularities [are] generally a sign for a missing piece in the theory,
>as in the ultraviolet catastrophe, re-normalization, and instability of a hydrogen atom
/this

[Anonymous No.11991554]

>>11991138
I pity the godbois who seek the truth about the lies and inconsistencies that they have been exposed to throughout their lives from since their birth in some cases.
I however, do not have any sympathy for unintelligible babble from idiots who wish to justify their beliefs through any means possible by presenting their beliefs in a supernatural being as something that has any bearing on reality in any shape or form.
Belief in your supernatural being is incompatible with science and fuck off with your stupid ramblings.

[Anonymous No.11991562]

>>11991547
I do not know if you're making fun of me or not, but I've taken all of that from wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.11991568]

>>11991562
it's all correct, so good on you, and on Wiki

[Anonymous No.11991575]

>>11991568
Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.11991923]

>>11991243
just because you can't grasp it doesn't mean it's God