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why are we the only species with extreme variation on our face? most other animals basically look identical.

>> No.11975893

>>11975890
A long violent history

>> No.11975894

>>11975890
None of my dogs look identical to each other.

>> No.11975896

>>11975893
that doesnt mean anything, all species face hardship
>>11975894
im talking within species

>> No.11975897 [DELETED] 

>>11975890
No they don't look identical. You just never noticed to spot the differences, while you have lifelong experience in telling people apart.

>> No.11975898

>>11975890
we aren't, you're just far more sensitive to variations in your own species than others
if you spend enough time interacting with another type of animal you will be able to identify them by face very easily

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>>11975898
>>11975897
ive heard of horror stories where people take home the wrong dog from the doggie park ur liars

>> No.11975902

>>11975890
I once told this Chinese exchange student that they all looked the same and he told me that to Chinese we all look the same.
To an animal we probably all look the same too

>> No.11975904

>>11975890
>>11975896
No they don't look identical. You just never learned to notice the differences, while you have lifelong experience in telling people apart. A shepherd will tell you which sheep is which.

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>>11975902
still more variation than these flamingos

>> No.11975906

>>11975890
>most other animals basically look identical.
they don't
you don't looks at them carefully, otherwise you'd be able to find variations

>> No.11975910 [DELETED] 

>>11975902
Well I'm not chinese and I'd say that asians do have quite a bit more variation in their faces.

>> No.11975912

>>11975905
Maybe if you were a flamingo you could see the differences. That was my point.

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>>11975906
>>11975904
>>11975897
>>11975894
contrarians who are arguing against an established phenomena sigh...
im sorry youre all so closed minded

>> No.11975916

>>11975912
animals arent visual they distinguish you by smell

>> No.11975917

>>11975913
Just because you sit at Berkeley doesn't mean you are incapable of makung up bullshit to account for your biases.

>> No.11975920

>>11975917
all science is theory some have stronger evidence than others - it doesnt mean you can pick and choose whats important it all needs to be a part of the conversation

>> No.11975922

>>11975916
mammals are. Birds might be even more visual than us. Their hearing is worse than ours and their senses of smell and taste are basically nonexistent.

>> No.11975923

>>11975916
well there are a lot of different animals. your statement is bad

>> No.11975927

>>11975920
Show me some evidence that humans are objectively more variable than other animals, then.

>> No.11975929

>>11975922
Birds are very visual. Just look at their flashy feathers and colours that a lot have.
Lots of birds can also pass the mirror self recognition test.

>> No.11975933

>>11975922
isnt it hilarios that a bird cant recognize it as one of its own if it smells different? HEE HAW
there are few animals that can recognize faces and crows and parrots are the only ones smart enough to care sorry

>> No.11975934

>>11975901
http://vacutron.com/statistic_pour_honey/Statistics%20Essentials%20Dummies.pdf
read a book

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>>11975929
all parrots look the same sorry
>>11975934
this book is on statistics? how can i make practical uuse of this for this thread?

>> No.11975940

>>11975936
>all parrots look the same sorry
to you

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>>11975905
just by looking at this picture i can see different feather patter at the bottom of their neck, each one has it's own unique pattern
If you give me a picture of their faces (with higher resolution) i can even find unique details there too
and that's coming form me, who was born and grew up among humans, not flamingos
to a flamingo, all the people in pic related look like each other, at first glace would

>> No.11975965

>>11975936
There are differences. That's how the natural process that caused the bright feathers to happen, happened.
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean anything

>> No.11975967

>>11975890
Human faces are identical to each other, we just trained our brains to distinguish them

>> No.11975971

>>11975890
sexual selection?
also, why asians look asian?

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11975974

>Our brains have just one scale, and we resize our experiences to fit.

>> No.11975978

>>11975971
No brow ridges.

>> No.11975980

>>11975978
>No brow ridges.
so.....
those were the ones sexually selected, right?

>> No.11975996

Take an intro to psychology course and learn some shit, moron

One of the first things you learn about developmental psychology is the well-established idea of how brains "prune" unnecessary connections. It's known that infants at 6 months can recognise individual faces of another species, whereas a 9 month old can't unless that skillset is maintained (i.e. read picture books containing faces of individuals from the species between 6-9 months old, and the ability is not lost). The major reasons we can't tell certain animals apart is because either a) we lost the ability to as part of the pruning process and b) we're not looking at animals in the same visual spectrum and literally cannot see certain things.

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>>11975996
this has got to be the most pseud answer here kek i dont appreciate your contribution

>> No.11976007

>>11975902
"and he told me that to Chinese we all look the same" if you believed that cope you're stupid lol, chinese know that white people look different from each other different hair color different eye color different skin color face shape body shape many many european tribes mixed with different genitics even the chinks know that but they cope and lie that is a chink's only way in life they are ashamed of everything and can't admit the simplest things.

>> No.11976016

>>11975890
That's because you don't have the facilities to recognise differences in individuals that are different to yourself and your limited group of familiar people.

>> No.11976017

>>11976016
blah blah blah
ur dum animals distinguish things primarily by smell

>> No.11976028

okay good bait you got a reply out of me

>> No.11976060

>>11976007
That's not how this works cracker

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>>11976007
seething

>> No.11976082

>>11975999
Sadly, this bullshit is what mainstream science believes.

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>>11976064
projecting chink

>> No.11976086

>>11976007
So if somebody colors their hair or takes colored lenses, you will no longer recognize them?

Even as a European, the chinese seem to have much more variable faces if you look furter than the celebrities where they seem to pick people with similar looks.

>> No.11976109

>>11976086
for me, they all looked the same at first.
then i started to watch chinese movies/tv series, i could recognize different facial features between each two chinese person, it's like my brain learned more about their faces and how they look

>> No.11976216

>>11975890
>most other animals basically look identical.
lol, no, this isn't even remotely true.

>> No.11976288

>>11975913
Why ask a question if you already have an answer that everyone must repeat back to you? Are you bored or hoping for some external validation?

>> No.11976498

>>11975946
God we look disgusting, maybe its just our modern lifestyle. I cant accept the fact that most of us probably look like this. People think dogs and cats are gross because they lick their ass's and shit, but at least their entire body isn't this flabby bare mess.

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>>11975946
>naked dick touching

>> No.11976510

OP is retarded and just wants personal validation.

>> No.11976517

>>11976498
naked mole rats?

>> No.11976549

>>11975898
To add on to this, look up the documentation of the ngogo apes. After spending over 23 years documenting them, the scientists were eventually able to name almost every member of troop of apes by facial recognition alone without any tags or other identification just because they had spent so much time around them, whereas the apes look the same to any normal person

>> No.11976558

>>11975890
lmao this nigga doesn't know about makeup

>> No.11977403

>>11975946
im not going to change my mind for something as modest as a feather pattern

>> No.11977491

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/345-1.174675

/thread

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>>11975890
You are just better trained to recognize Human traits over those of other species.

>> No.11977595

>>11975890
Well like even tho a wasp has pretty much the same face structure among individuals, the face paint is what varies. Other animals depend more on scent.
But as other anons have stated, you just have more practice and need differentiating human faces

>> No.11978953

>>11975890
Most of animals are around the same body fat and can't style their hair

>> No.11979070

Same reason the animals, plants etc. we domesticated or engineered display extreme variation of traits interesting to us: artificial selection.

>> No.11979106 [DELETED] 

>>11977527
Why you post a pic of mulattos and blacks?

>> No.11979113

>>11975920
What are you even talking about. I can tell which bluejay is which on my feeder just from looking at patterns on their head. The same goes for almost every animal, except maybe insects and shit. Maybe you just need to open your goddamn eyes.

>> No.11979166

>>11975890
Thats bullshit. There was a paper just last year that wasps identify each other through facial recognition.

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>>11979106

>deflecting

Looks like you lose anon.

>> No.11979504

>>11979173
An innocent joke, you lose due to unnecessary autism.

Yes, I get face variation in animals. Not OP btw

>> No.11979534

>>11979106
MULATTO BUTTS

>> No.11979565

Humans look different because of different environments. Humans that live in the same environment for too long tend to morph into similar faces. Most other hominids only live in the same environment because they were just simply too stupid to travel, so it creates the perception that only humans have different facial morphology, but in reality if these other hominids changed environments and actually survived they would have developed different skin colors or faces.

>> No.11979577

>>11975890
>whites: all niggers/chinks look alike
>blacks: all whites/chinks look alike
>chinese: all gweilos look alike
>humans: all dogs look alike
>dogs: all humans look alike

>> No.11979859

>>11975890
it's just white people.
niggers and chinks look the same.

>> No.11979869

>>11975890
Have you ever looked at animals before? Or anything?

>> No.11981718

>>11979577
>dogs: all humans look alike
Dogs don't rely on sight too much to identify people. You have a much more unique smell and sounds.

>> No.11981749

>>11981718
Then why dogs get scared by fursuits?

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>>11981749
Proof is trivial and left as an exercise for the reader.

>> No.11981791

>>11981760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XtQ9gubTbs

>> No.11982203

>>11975967
Anon, I....

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>>11975905
>every single head is a different size and shape
>every pink is different than the next one
>different spots on breasts
>every beak different

are you blind?