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11967295 No.11967295[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Is it colonialist to say that 2+2=4?

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>>11967295
>'must retweet because sheboon'
>BLM activist

>> No.11967311

>>11967295
I am convinced that people like the person who posted this on twitter are being paid off to make BLM activists look as stupid as possible.

>> No.11967313

>>11967295
>caring about what some literally who says on Twitter
Take your moral outrage bs to /pol/

>> No.11967314

Reposting shitty opinions from twitter and reddit to rile people up should be a one month ban. I'm tired of awful political bait threads like this.

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>>11967314
Why are you being transphobic by denying 2+2=5?

>> No.11967331

>>11967311
No, black people really are that dumb. Take it from someone who went to public school in a big US city

>> No.11967333

>>11967295
Well, if you can only count to 3 then 2+2 overflows to 0 or 1, depending on whether you've learned about 0 yet.

>> No.11967342

>>11967331
She has 6 likes.
So no, I don't think black people care or give a shit about this literally who. (You) care more than them.

>> No.11967345

b-but Quantum Physics implies everything is a contradiction and fluid!!!!
https://youtu.be/yAYPi0nqJ50
2+2=whatever i want!!!! next time the guy at the Trader Joes says i can't buy two 2-buck-chucks and then go back and add another 8 2-buck-chucks to my bag, i will TOTALLY PWN THEM WITH MY GENDERFLUID QUANTUM IDENTITY! I GET 8 WINES FOR 4 DOLLARS!!!!!!!! MUH IDENTITY REEEE

>> No.11967355

>>11967342
I don't particularity care, I'm just pointing out that most black people are definitely stupid enough to believe things like this. That being said, you seem like a faggot

>> No.11967364

>>11967355
>caring about normies on twitter
>faggot
Yes you are.

>> No.11967366

It's fun to work out some equations in other number systems.

10 + 10 = 100
2 + 2 = 10
2 + 2 = 4

>> No.11967467

>>11967366
>other number systems
Yeah, but you have to define what number system you are using if it isn't the standard for the whole fucking world.

>> No.11967508

>>11967333
Do you REALLY think she's referring to modular arithmetic?

>> No.11967542

>Arabic numerals
>Zero not even a concept until some time period in Europe

>> No.11967548

>>11967295
Are black people entering puberty question everything phase?

>> No.11967555

>>11967542
pretty sure arabs invented 0. not euros. we were stuck in economically depressed times when nobody funded intellectuals during that phase of history iirc

>> No.11967568

>>11967295
>>>/pol/270854312

>> No.11967572

>>11967295
By definition 2+2=4 how is this so difficult

>> No.11967581

>>11967324
>Orwell predicted this

>> No.11967586

>>11967555
Most of Arab inventions were successfully stolen from the Persians who successfully stole it from the Indians. What we call "Arabic numerals" for example were invented in India.

>> No.11967596

>>11967295

Well, I AM pretty sure she is talking about linear thinking, and the acceptance that the world can be reduced to quantities that, when added, have finite sums.
The Idea that society is simply the sum of individual work is nonsense - neither our output nor what we choose to do is limited by individual constraints. That is the advantage of a society.
To then reduce an output that is greater than the sum of what individuals can do on their own TO the the limits of what EACH individual can do becomes stupid.
Arithmetic only works when you use it as a mask to apply rationality to a known whole. But humanity is not a known whole, nor is it reducible to one. And the cultural propensity to try to reduce humanity to rationality is based in exploitation.

>> No.11967597

>>11967311
No these people actually exist. My sister (we’re black) once told me without a shred of irony that maths and science are “white supremacy” and that there’s a such thing as “African American” science. I can’t remember what her argument was but it was so completely retarded I think I just gave up even trying to argue with her.

>> No.11967601

questioning the axioms is a higher IQ move than /sci/ can handle
>b..but math is the TRUTH!

>> No.11967609

>>11967596
>Well, I AM pretty sure she is talking about linear thinking
no, you're just inserting your nonsensical reddit garbage in her head

>> No.11967613

>>11967601
2 has a definition. 4 has a definition. addition has a defintion. BY DEFINITION 2+2=4. it would be like "lol trump is black" and if someone questions you about this fact just say lol i have different definition. its a retarded and WORTH LESS statement to make

>> No.11967617

>>11967295
What a bunch of morons ITT. Here, explained by the illustrious man in the chair himself, 2 + 2 = 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QkL60HkxCA

>> No.11967627

>>11967617
lololol dexters laboratory toppest of keks

>> No.11967629

>>11967613
what if Trump is a trans nigga?

>> No.11967640

>>11967629
he'd probably be polling higher than he is now

>> No.11967662

>>11967601
Pretty sure she isn’t criticizing Peano arithmetic or von Neumann ordinals here.
It’s frustrating being a lefty but also having to associate with Twitter mouth breathers

>> No.11967665

>>11967629
post of the year
>Atlanta sketch reversed kek

>> No.11967668

>>11967640
fucking based anon shitpost reply

>>11967601
Nothing is anything
>Why fucking live then?

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>>11967662
Everyone on twitter is retarded.
/pol/aroids only focus on the liberal side of twitter.
Just search for "great awakening" for some right-wing examples.

>> No.11967682

>>11967680
Don't you drag the Qtards into this, they don't count

>> No.11967684

>>11967295

No, stupid people like the OP can't parse objective reality from the unpleasant historical oppression of their co-ethnics, which leads some of them into rejecting rationality as-such. One angle on this confusion is to mistake different historical mathematical approaches to the same reality as substantively describing a "different" mathematical reality where none exists.

t. study ancient history of math in depth

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>>11967688

>> No.11967696

>>11967295
If 2 + 2 cannot equal "i dont know" without a serious economic penalty? than what is the culture that surrounds math? I'm reminded that not all language even extended into magnitude and temporality, it worked fine enough.

Its a catch-22, math is very useful as a language, but alot of minds reject it as operating principle. In a world of a greater perception of peace i would attempt to to make "code-chi" or code-foo, a martial art of coding.

>> No.11967697

>>11967682
>they don't count
I see more likes on these than on the OP

>> No.11967698

>>11967684
see >>11967613

>> No.11967708

>>11967295
I fucking hate the "ways of knowing" trope. It's ignorance masquerading as significance.

>> No.11967732

>>11967311
You'd think that but this kind of nonsense is being peddled in universities now.

>> No.11967771

>>11967693

Everything I wrote is reasonable, in spite of your insult retort which doesn't engage the content of the argument and is therefore void.

>>11967698

Your referred post is unfortunately poorly written and polemical. Worse, its context is confused enough that for me to reject or qualify it entails its whole thread of discussion, but here we go. An anon starts out with a vaguely anti-Platonic sentiment: >>11967601 . The rhetorical thrust here is that with a different set of axioms, a different mathematical reality obtains, therefore double-digits like the twitter girl should, in principle, be taken seriously with their metaphysical claims. The central problem with this bit is the rejection of mathematical Platonism, which leads to error.

Then, in response, a badly written, confused polemic >>11967613 , which seems to be "on my side" (Reality of Math/Platonism/definitions), albeit in a confused way. This post vaguely refers to definitions and axioms and seems to reject rejections of a given system itself as silly. Making matters worse, you yourself seem to have confounded this poor post as a "refutation" of what I'd written here >>11967684 , referring it to me as "advice". Lots of talking past each other.

>>11967708

In this case, it always turns on the young dumb and full of cum person having read about a different counting system in a tribal group which models the same counting reality, and they mistake the cosmetic and cultural differences for a different elementary mathematical reality, where none exists. That's the thesis.

>> No.11967799

>>11967771
Platonism is false.
Constructivism/intuitionism is true. Mathematics exists only as a construction in a mind corresponding to a set of logical symbols and methods of inferences that are defined as symbol manipulations. There are separate systems of math that lead to different results (the continuum hypothesis is a great example that is true in some formalism and false in others).
It is not real in some platonic realm.

>> No.11967806

>>11967324
This is some clear schizospeak. Why is the population becoming more schizophrenic? Is it chemicals in the water?

>> No.11967826

>>11967771
No one claims math is intrinsic to the universe just like language isn’t intrinsic. If I create a logically consistent system like the “current math system”(not sure of a better label to use) we know and this system is widely accepted and someone comes around and says something that is not consistent with this system and only point is to say lol system is made up then yes their statement is worthless. It’s obvious that the system is a human construct. This is self evident. Saying self evident things is worthless.

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>>11967366

>> No.11968031

>>11967799
based retard

>> No.11968124

>>11967799
>There are separate systems of math that lead to different results (the continuum hypothesis is a great example that is true in some formalism and false in others).
Yes, but there is only one system of maths that is true to the Platonic realm, the others are empty fictions.

>> No.11968166

>>11967295
No.

>> No.11968190

>>11968124
>Yes, but there is only one system of maths that is true to the Platonic realm, the others are empty fictions.
so which one is the true one, surely you have access to this holy realm and can pass upon its words oh prophet

>> No.11968249

"2" and "4" are symbols. They have definitions because of the contexts they are used in. It's probably true that the people saying this aren't thinking of modular arithmetic (or any legitimizing conceptual framework) specifically, but they're also not saying that if you put two dollars into a box twice, you can take five dollars out. The complaint is against people who mistake the map for the territory, or argue against the idea that the map only becomes meaningful through it's interpretation.

>> No.11968326

>>11967295
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjKQQpPVifY

>'Do you remember,' he went on, 'writing in your diary, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four"?
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/18.html

>> No.11968434

>>11967597
does she believe in curses and killing people with lightning?

>> No.11968439

>>11967586
or they rehashed old greek texts they found

>> No.11968451

>falling for a falseflag bait from Twitter
LMAO at all the smoothbrains itt

>> No.11968459

>>11968326
I have to wonder at this point if someone is just using Orwell and Huxley as a how to guide?

>> No.11968493

>>11968326
What a beautiful scene.
Picard is such a megachad.

>> No.11968600

>>11967295

Dadaism is dumb as fuck

>> No.11968618

>>11967311
I am convinced they are paid by Terryologists.

>> No.11968621

>>11967333
Three 3s for someone who can only count to 3.
Its like pottery.
Who has this problem though, besides you?

>> No.11968624

>>11967613
Its pretty common knowledge that Trump is the third black president after Clinton and Obama.

>> No.11968627

>>11968190
ZFC + V = ultimate L

>> No.11968653

>>11967295
Basically anything that these people find difficult is racys

>> No.11968677

>>11968031
I'm smarter than you

>> No.11968679

>>11968124
They're all true. There is no "one true math".

>> No.11968680

>>11968679
postmodern retard

>> No.11968685

She's a fucking nigger, what does she know about math

>> No.11968691

WTF SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING ON TWITTER????

>> No.11968693

>>11968680
False.
There literally isn't one true math. If there is, it would be a form of paraconsistent quantum logic, not a classicalist one.

>> No.11968699

>11968693
postmodern retard

>> No.11968700

>>11968699
I'm smarter than you, and not a postmodernist.

>> No.11968713

Wrong. Wrong.

>> No.11968717

>>11968713
Cope and seethe.

>> No.11968763

>>11968624
Trump is the african style president

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>>11967295
...

>> No.11968780

>>11968765
This woman is a teacher? The kids are fucked...

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>>11967311
I know that it really seems bizarre but it's not. This is their goal. Every single thing that they do is very intentional and calculated. The girl in the pic sounds fucking retarded and as if she's being paid to falseflag, but she's smarter than the average BLM grunt. What she's doing is testing the ground for whether the new religion of BLM can finally overwrite the objectivity of science and completely cancel empiricism as a forbidden school of thought. And it will sound impossible that society would ever allow something like this, but let me remind you that any person from the 90s would've laughed in your face if you told him what 2020 looked like. It will follow the exact same path that it follows right now: first they push it, then their white liberal orbiters push it, then the companies push it, then the government pushes it, and finally the only ones who do not push it get ostracized and fired from their jobs so they start pushing it as well. Then, if it doesn't work, they go one step backwards and yield this position until it's slowly normalized, after which they just push it again. The fact that pointing out all of this automatically makes you an evil racist who needs to be excommunicated makes them immune and gives them infinite attempts until it eventually works, because there's no one out there who'll bother losing his position just so he could call out some random twitter post for being retarded. There's tens of thousands of proffs who can easily call her out and use their PhD as a shield, but they wont. Instead the reverse will happen - the PhDs will join her to display how progressive they are, and regardless of how fucking retarded this all sounds, they will be the ones to legitimize her retardation and use their degrees to cancel any other mathematician still claiming that 2 + 2 = 4.

>> No.11968941

>>11968936
Except it literally is Empiricism that falsifies the platonic notion that there is a "one true math".

>> No.11968948

>>11968941
ah yes the raw empirical experience of putting two apples next to two apples and having one bonus apple quantum tunnel itself from the nearest tree

>> No.11969374

>>11968936
Yes this woman with a dozen followers is an opinion leader that shapes the public. Fuck off schizo.

And Watson was rightfully revoked of his title since there is no evidence that the Black-White IQ gap is genetic.

>> No.11969388

>>11969374
>And Watson was rightfully revoked of his title since there is no evidence that the Black-White IQ gap is genetic.
This is bait. there's no way you're that stupid.

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>>11969388
Post the evidence for the White-Black IQ gap being entirely genetic in origin (Watson's claim). Less than 1% of experts in the field believe this.

>> No.11969411

>>11967597
My guess is she was watching videos of the "Fallist" movement in South Africa, because that's more or less what you're describing

>> No.11969412

>>11969396
are you black?

Watson's claim was literally saying africa doesn't have same cognitive potential as other countrues.
"all the evidence suggests not really"
IQ is massively heritable

>> No.11969419

>>11969374
>And Watson was rightfully revoked of his title since there is no evidence that the Black-White IQ gap is genetic.
This is really going to last until the end of time, isn't it?

>> No.11969421

>>11969396
Entirely isn't the same as overwhelmingly.

>> No.11969424

>>11969412
>are you black?
No

>Watson's claim was literally saying africa doesn't have same cognitive potential as other countrues.
Because of genetics, this is not proven

>IQ is massively heritable
No, heritability of IQ changes due to environmental factors, it's as low as 0.10 among poor Americans.

Africans are affected by even worse environmental inhibitors than poor Americans so the heritability of IQ would be even lower there.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5754247/

>> No.11969428

>>11969396
you can't even interpret your own figure correctly you dumb undergrad

>> No.11969429

>>11969396
this graph is functionally meaningless

>> No.11969430

>>11967680
I think Q people making wild political claims is way less crazy than "2 + 2 = 5 if we just redefine every part of it, take this seriously or you're racist". At least basic counting can't be used to prove what's going on behind closed doors at the White House.

>> No.11969433

>>11967799
>corresponding to a set of logical symbols and methods of inferences that are defined as symbol manipulations
It sounds like you’re talking about formalism. Constructivism is probably closer to Platonism

>> No.11969434

>>11969424
this is fallacious reasoning.

>> No.11969438

>>11967597
I feel bad for all the black people that get bad rep from niggers

>> No.11969444

Acceptance of trans people is not a matter of facts but of hearts. You either forgive or not when your neighbor slaps you. "Humans can be mean" is hardly a fact, but sure is a feel.

>> No.11969457

>>11967694
people like this deserve to die, and lose all their money to some quack snake oil dealer in the process

>> No.11969460

>>11968627
>the one i grew up with, plus the thing i like is the true one
>just a coincidence they line up that much, dont think about it

>> No.11969468

>>11969457
they're naive and gullible, the gutting of the american public school system caused the problem.

>> No.11969490

>>11969468
That and many institutions are actually corrupt. The establishment has lost a lot of credibility, so the desperate turn to alternative narratives.

>> No.11969497

>>11967311
You're not far from the truth.
They're probably being paid because they are retarded. They're not being paid to be retarded.

>> No.11969500

>>11969490
in this world you're either misinformed or uninformed sadly.

>> No.11969502

>>11967324
>tranies root for saying is normal having something more when there shouldn't
>blacks root for supporting things are missing....

>> No.11969552

>>11968026
This joke only works in writing, it would easily explainable if both parties spoke the same language that their counting is consistent, they just utilize different counting models

>> No.11969628

>>11967771
good post

>> No.11969798

>>11969396
>Pulls figure from ass
You get cancelled if you claim anything other than the orthodoxy, how would you know what 'experts' actually believe?

>> No.11969842

>>11967680
>>11967688
>>11967694
How are any of those incorrect?

>> No.11969855

>>11967597
Frankly, not that I know what your sister meant, so I'm not speaking for her, but often times people espousing this idea are just expressing it very fucking poorly.
The idea that our system of scientific understanding could be construed as "white supremacy" isn't really as retarded as it sounds.
Note, the implication of that isn't that all science is wrong, the inventions aren't useful, etc.
it's just that the only scientific advancements that we care about today are mostly from European guys from the renaissance and we throw a few Indians and Arabs in for good measure.
Historically, there have been TONS of examples of just straight up garbage science that was based entirely in preconceived, white supremacist notions (see: all of phrenology) and we believed that shit for a very long time
No, that doesn't mean that 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 and the person in OP I really seriously doubt matters because I've been involved in Black activism for nearly a decade and seen some wild ass people say some stupid shit, but still almost always more well-founded and articulated than OP.

>> No.11969871

>>11969855
and even if you disagree with my notions here, it's important if you're going into science to recognize science is often heavily influenced by the Zeitgeist.
Science really has never and still currently does not exist as this "ideal" intellectual discipline that transcends the social.
For simple examples of this, just look at the way that corporations can pay real scientists to do shit studies for some reason and then it is the duty of the consumer to investigate the source of the study
If science truly existed as an intellectual ideal, this should certainly never be a concern, as everyone would just be studying things in the pursuit of truth.
But that just isn't the case. So if nothing else, it's at least worth while thinking about what biases are at play in research.

>> No.11969880

>>11969798
Wasn't there that anonymous questionaire?

>> No.11969901

Memes aside, there is a tendency on the left to sabotage the education of people in their community.

>> No.11969975

>>11969871
You are correct. The Feminist Agenda is pushed by the literal CIA and other big institutions inside and outside of the official government. Bake the cake bigot!

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>>11967295
>Is it colonialist to say that 2+2=4?

No. Math is a language.

>>11968459
Orwell is literally a how to guide. The more you know.

>>11967613
Definitions have nothing to do with explanations and truth

>>11967799
>way of thinking is false
No actually it's true because it's practiced and takes place in reality.

>It is not real in some platonic realm.
"Yes". Which is why the "platonic realm" is described as being dualistic on purpose in order to deny the One being mentioned.


>>11969901
>there is a tendency on the left to sabotage the education of people in their community.

But of course. That's how communism has taken over every unified country. They start by brainwashing the college educated 1 percent because they have the ability to induce the most change in a country. They are viewed as "the future" and "smarter" than the older populations, which makes them ideal book learned moron candidates who can spread a subversive message. They will also do this while viewing themselves as doing good at the same time. Free advertising for the communist party.
They then convince the other 99% to give up their nations birthrights to some random cause that warrants sympathy by the population. This "sympathy" always leads the book learned morons to convince others to pick or even make up a martyr for an excuse to incite a revolution starting with riots. The riots polarize the entire population into picking and choosing sides and leads to the population fighting first among themselves then slowly organizing into what eventually leads into communism.

Almost every single country who has fallen victim to communism has taken this path. Luckily we already have taken this path like 4-5 times and it never ends up working because materialism is fortunately a torpid, blunt bitch. At this point it's just a booster shot, like a "coming of age" ritual where we let the dumbest of our youth learn the hard way why communism is retarded by making them experience a taste of it.

>> No.11970157

>>11967295
This shit is how the cultural revolution started in China.

>> No.11970193

>>11970008
That old calling card of "real communism has never been tried" and the triumphant tone of "It will be different when I do it"

>> No.11970630

>>11967311
These people really exist, and they will end our civilization if they're not stopped

>> No.11970636

>>11967313
>Keep hiding and the problem will dissapear

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>>11967295

>> No.11970897

>>11969842
really?
you're stumbling on the one that thinks a family of viruses = a specific disease?
really?

next time you get a gram-negative bacterial infection, ensure you take meds for gram-postive.
don't let the faucis out there fool you!

>> No.11971021

>>11967295
>self-deprecating joke or a right-wing troll
>6 likes
SJWs ARE DESTROYING SOCIETY

>> No.11971194

>>11967596
Retard

>> No.11971196

>>11967662
>It’s frustrating being a retard but...

>> No.11971199

"Conceptual james" has joined the islamic state of iraq and the levant...

>> No.11971202

>>11968693
>muh quantum
Easiest way to spot the pseud.

>> No.11971204

>>11967295
Today's numerical systems are actually from India so I dont know what's white about it. They are called Arabic because it was the Arabs who took it from India and let Europe steal it

>> No.11971205

>>11968936
This

>> No.11971208

>>11971199
this would be more interesting than anything he has actually done

>> No.11971212

>>11969396
>Not enough data
Many of those probably believed genetic, but didn't want their lives destroyed

>> No.11971222 [DELETED] 

>>11967295
Do not hire Brittany Marshall for any job in accounting, engineering, medicine... or fuck it, anything at all.

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>>11967694

>> No.11971258

>>11968780
Thankfully people are starting to wake up to the teacher's union being complete dog shit. It might be in Trump's crosshairs soon.

>> No.11971303 [DELETED] 

>>11967324
OK, I've principle of charitied this out the wakanda, and is it possible what she's trying to regurgitate is that those propositions, while true, are not necessarily how reality should be viewed ?

>> No.11971306

>>11967324
OK, I've principle of charitied this out the wakanda, and is it possible what she's trying to regurgitate is that those propositions, while true, are not necessarily how reality should be viewed ?

>> No.11971311

>>11967324
2+2 may be 5 in some advanced field of mathematics, but it's better not to consider it because you'll confuse people who need to use simple addition. Same thing with this tranny crap as far as I'm concerned.

>> No.11971313

2+2= FISH

>> No.11971317

There is only one thing I know, 1+1 without a condom is 3.

>> No.11971321

>>11971317
Are you a pajeet?

>> No.11971323

>>11967295
2+2=pedophila is ok, black lives matter vote biden

>> No.11971326

>>11971323
>up is still up, right is still right, 2+2 is still 4 so vote Biden

>> No.11971341

>>11971321
I wish

>> No.11971386

>>11971317
>te] [Auto] No new posts
thank you sincerely for the lol

>> No.11971392

These BLM/Lefty Tweets ( >>11967295 >>11967324 ) are part of a greater pattern in the BLM intellectual current. >>11968936 is on the right track but has concluded the existence of a conspiracy from a trend. Take a look at this website (showingupforracialjustice.DOT org/white-supremacy-culture-characteristic DOT html) which was linked from a google doc called #blacklivesmatter. Here are some of the richer quotes, which generally seem to be representative of a lot of BLM ideology:

>Below is a list of characteristics of white supremacy culture which show up in our organizations:
>[Quantity Over Quality] things that can be measured are more highly valued than things that cannot
>[Quantity Over Quality] Discomfort with emotion and feelings
>[Worship of the Written Word] the belief there is [a] right way to do things and [once exposed to it, people] will [....] adopt it
>[Either/Or Thinking] things are either/or, good/bad, right/wrong, with us/against us
--Note especially that the idea of a right/wrong distinction is characterized as a form of oppression
>[Fear of Open Conflict] emphasis on being polite
--And this is the best part:
>[Objectivity] the belief that there is such a thing as being objective
>[Objectivity] the belief that emotions are inherently destructive, irrational, and should not play a role in decision-making
>[Objectivity] impatience with any thinking that does not appear logical

The takaway I'd like to emphasize is that for many BLM activists, especially organizers who tend to be more tied in to the more esoteric Black Power ideologies, the idea that some things are strictly right and others wrong is a form of oppression. This obviously implicates the entire field of math and much of STEM. No wonder they major in Racial Studies. For these BLM people, emotions are just as valid as, say, statistical realities, so you get things like the hilarious and at this point widespread BLM response to black crime statistics: "statistics can be warped."

>> No.11971414

>>11967295
Posting twitter screenshots should be a bannable offense. Basically you looked for some literal who that has a completely ridiculous opinion and now there’s a 200+ reply thread.

>> No.11971462

>>11968936
>>11971392
you’re both right
it’s not a conspiracy, it’s literally what they’re teaching in woke bullshit studies

>> No.11971484

What world do they envision if they get their way and destroy science and mathematics? South Africa? Zimbabwe? Sentinel Island?

>> No.11971640

>>11971392
>[Quantity Over Quality]
They would have a point, or at least an honest debate, if discussing philosophy and values instead of subversion.

You will never get anything but subversion. Half don't grok the issues being misappropriated anyways... There is no use talking to liars.

>> No.11971649

>>11971392
I love this. "There is objectively no objective truth"

>> No.11971651

>>11967806
Schizophrenia is a natural stress response that a functioning society attempts to avoid, we are in an increasingly dysfunctional society.

>> No.11971659

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/08/2-plus-2-never-equals-5/

a joke that ascends into ideological belief. I love 2020

>> No.11971665
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>>11967366
"Two plus two is.. ten... IN BASE FOUR. I'M FINE!"