Get redpilled on Nuclear Fusion, the Sun and SAFIRE!

[None !yJRnRU0e/w No.11942371]

Nuclear Fusion is easy when you do it the way Nature does it.

The SAFIRE experiment set out to test whether the Electric Sun model was correct or not, and it passed all (100%) of the tests and all (100%) of the predictions of the model flawlessly. Let that sink in. SAFIRE has over the last few years 100% confirmed the Electric Sun model experimentally in the laboratory – in stark contrast to the Standard Model of the Sun which still after a hundred years nobody has been able to build a functioning real-world model of, and which remains to this day unproven and fails to elegantly and properly explain the observed behavior and phenomena of the Sun, and continues to leave mainstream scientists surprised and scratching their heads in confusion and wonderment.

The Sun produces nuclear fusion. Though contrary to what the Standard Model claims, the fusion doesn't occur in its core, nor does fusion power the Sun – in reality, fusion is merely an effect; an effect which occurs in the plasma at the outer surface of the Sun. And thus, copying how the Sun operates, nuclear fusion occurs within the SAFIRE plasma reactor. Naturally and effortlessly, as the reactor simply does what Nature does – it doesn't attempt to force fusion through an unnatural process.

For information on SAFIRE:

https://aureon.ca/science-of-safire
https://aureon.ca/methodology
https://aureon.ca/experiment-results
https://aureon.ca/reactor
https://aureon.ca/theory
https://aureon.ca/movies
https://player.vimeo.com/video/395620602
https://safireproject.com/science/ewExternalFiles/SAFIRE-Phase-Three.pdf

Some additional very helpful info on SAFIRE and how Nuclear Fusion works:

https://youtu.be/0J6HDQLicWI
https://youtu.be/L69ttX3kviw
https://youtu.be/h49AbVfI7KU
https://youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject/search?query=safire

To learn more about the Electric Sun model (not just the Sun, all stars operate the same way), see: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwOAYhBuU3UdAwCXUCvl23_5DOjGMPq7d

[None !yJRnRU0e/w No.11942376]

>>11942371
Part of what SAFIRE has accomplished in their reactor is the isotopic transmutation of elements using free protons and the energy available in the plasma double layers. SAFIRE adds trace amounts of heavier elements which become ionized rapidly when exposed to all those free protons. As they make their way into the plasma double layers, those heavier elements are caught in the turbulence between layers. Turbulent plasma amplifies the magnetic fields and in those crushing fields transmutation takes place.

So SAFIRE isn't creating fusion by fusing Deuterium and Tritium into Helium. They are instead using the free protons and the plasma double layers to induce transmutation which liberates a massive amount of heat in the process.

[Anonymous No.11942380]

>>11942371
it’s THAT schizo, again...

[Anonymous No.11942397]

Isn't this a literal psyop?

[Anonymous No.11942784]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVdPgkudC8

[Anonymous No.11942787]

>>11942371
>>EU garbage
into the trash it goes

[Anonymous No.11942994]

>>11942397
yeah it's literal /pol/-tier fake news

[Anonymous No.11943098]

They're just continuing (((Velikovsky)))'s legacy

[Anonymous No.11943104]

>>11942371
fuck off pseud

[Anonymous No.11943105]

Imagine wasting your time on this nonsense...

[Anonymous No.11943107]

>>11942784
All >>11942371 needs to watch
Professor Dave summed up EU perfectly in that video.

[Anonymous No.11943143]

>>11943107
Yes i really validates EU if even a science dude cant debunk it. The second so far, i know who didnt get this. Second retard who tried with this "science channel". There was also a third one but i didnt understand his augment. Anyway it doesnt matter if 2 cant debunk it, its already more valid as Einstein fanatics ever become.

I mean its izzy right, if the just come up with falsity. They have no argument. People who dedicate there life to science have no argument. I wounder where they get the courage to even speak about this if they have non.

[Anonymous No.11943185]

>>11943143
I can't tell if this is schizo posting or just really bad ESL-speak.

[Anonymous No.11943682]

>>11942371
This thread is full of doubleniggers

[Anonymous No.11943704]

>>11942994
/pol/ is accurate 85-90% of the time

[Anonymous No.11943706]

I don't understand why you cum guzzling faggot fucks continue to post electric faggotverse bullshit all over the board.
No matter how many times you worthless brainlet monkeys post this pseudo science, it isn't going to magically make gravity stop existing, it won't make SAFFIRE not a scam, and it won't stop general relativity from being how the universe works.
You're doing nothing but wasting your time, which only goes to show that your lives aren't valuable and your time isn't worth anything.
Stop shitting up the board with your electric universe nonsense.

[Anonymous No.11943731]

If you want to follow real fusion news, follow the Commonwealth Fusion Systems and the SPARC reactor which is on track to being the first fusion reactor which can produce more electricity than it takes in.

[Anonymous No.11943744]

>>11943704
pol is 90% fucking garbage and newniggers. When /pol/ is at it's best it's right about 60% of the time, but this is significantly better than normies who are never right about anything.

[Anonymous No.11943748]

I passed all (100%) of the tests i took in grad school

Therefore it’s 100% confirmed that I’m literally God

[Anonymous No.11943798]

>>11943107
Dave's got a pretty big nose tbqh

[Anonymous No.11943819]

>>11943744
/pol/ glows

[Anonymous No.11943845]

How does gravity work?

[Anonymous No.11943853]

>>11942371
Oy vey shut it doown

[Anonymous No.11943861]

Yeah there's plenty of energy everywhere in the universe, your body has enough energy to level the city you're in right now. The issue is how profitable the energy is to extract. This is why solar and windlets will never be anything but a laughingstock

[Anonymous No.11943873]

>>11942371
Okay, yes, inertial electrostatic confinement reactors work fine, and I could build one in my garage, but they aren't any bit efficient.

That thing is basically a Farnsworth Fusor on crack. Great idea, and something fun to think about, but not at all feasible for energy production.

[Anonymous No.11943922]

>>11942784
Why should I care what this poorfag "e-celeb" has to say?

[Anonymous No.11943930]

>>11943922
Electric universe is not real and calling him a poor fag eceleb isn't going to magically make your incel electric faggotverse real.
If you have an actual argument, make it. Ad hominems don't work without an actual argument to support them.

[Anonymous No.11943954]

>>11942371
turbotrash bullshit pseudoscience. Anyone with half a brain cell can tell right off the fucking bat these people are hacks due to the shit tier videos and 0 ties to academic sources.

[Anonymous No.11943955]

>>11943930
EU is more real than your e-celeb "physicist"

[Anonymous No.11943960]

Wait till you lads realise that gravity and gravitons were a psyop.

Basic Electric Universe stuff is babby stuff compare to what's out there

[Anonymous No.11943965]

>>11943706
glowing

[Anonymous No.11943971]

>>11943744
You haven't said anything to disprove these companies and Starfire other than being a faggot jew that kvetches.

[Anonymous No.11943993]

>>11943971
>Starfire
retard.

[Anonymous No.11944013]

>>11943971
The burden of proof doesn't belong to the one refuting unproven claim, faggot.

[Anonymous No.11944021]

>>11943955
Except it isn't you sniveling moron.
No matter how many times you scum sucking cum guzzling faggots post your bullshit, it will not make SAFIRE a legit scientific organization, it won't make EU real, and you won't stop being an incel /pol/tard.
All you're doing is wasting your time, proving your time and life isn't valuable. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.11944033]

>>11943965
DURRR DURRR YOU'RE GLOWING DURRRRRRR DURRRRRRR
faggot fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.11944050]

>>11942371
Holy shit (((CIA))) is glowing in this thread

[Anonymous No.11944059]

>>11944050
>everyone who dislikes pseudoscience is a paid CIA shill
LITERALLY RETARDED

[Anonymous No.11944071]

>>11942371
No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVdPgkudC8

[Anonymous No.11944073]

>>11944059
>FUCKING /POL/, INCEL, GET LAID, BUZZWORD, BUZZWORD, STUPID, I HAVE NO STAKE IN THIS BUT I WILL MAKE COUNTLESS POSTS IN THIS THREAD TO INSULT YOU AND TRY TO PRETEND I CAN APPLY SOCIAL PRESSURE TO CONFORM ON YOU BY ACTING ANGRY AND HISTRIONIC NOW BELIEVE ME AND DO WHAT I SAY!

kys you spergy glowing fucking retard

[Anonymous No.11944087]

>>11944073
>"If I call him a glowing CIA shill and post a meme quoting Henry Ford it means that EU is real and SAFIRE isn't a scam!"
LITERAL SHIT FOR BRAINS RETARD

[Anonymous No.11944125]

>>11944087
lol you mad bro? Why you mad bro?

[Anonymous No.11944154]

>>11944125
I'm tired of the board being shat up by faggots posting pseudoscience. The funniest part is that with your posting these images proves that the entire motivation for EU schizo shit is literally just that you're angry that GR was made by a jew. If Einstein was any other ethnicity you wouldn't give a shit about trying to come up with an alternative cosmology to GR. I'm not jewish nor do I work for the CIA, your images don't make me angry whatsoever.
You're not motivated by understanding the universe. You're not intelligent. You don't belong on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.11944162]

EU is only slightly above flat earth on the retard level. Maybe 5 iq more.

[Anonymous No.11944164]

>>11944154
ROFL tldr not reading that. Y you mad bro? You seem really, really mad

[Anonymous No.11944174]

>>11944162
Yea probably around 5 IQ more.
>>11944164
I just explained why I'm mad. Obviously you're not intelligent enough to read a small paragraph, seeing as you're an EU incel.
You will never amount to anything. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.11944177]

>>11942784
i can't stand people like this
he's right in debunking nonsense, but to do so in a smug and condescending way and attacking the people at every turn just turns people off. i'm way more interested in why exactly, scientifically, the electric universe can't work, not how many synonyms for idiot you can sling at someone

[Anonymous No.11944185]

Bodhi Mantra is a dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.11944191]

>>11944177
>don’t make fun of retards!
>the retards won’t listen
lmao

[Anonymous No.11944192]

>>11944185
Hoes mad hebe

[Anonymous No.11944197]

>>11944191
it's not just about making fun of retards
even for people that understand or aren't complete retards that want to understand, it's much more important for the ideas themselves to be tackled before personal attacks are used. i'm halfway through the video and its all just been ad hominem and accusations of it being a scam, without anything about the invalidity of the claims behind it

[Anonymous No.11944199]

>>11944192
>"if I post memes it means that the laws of physics are different than they actually are!"
LITERAL FUCKING RETARD

[Anonymous No.11944206]

>>11944197
Yah charlatons have to do that because they have nothing else lol. These guys literally have a working model and the science is conclusive there is no debate. All they can do is screech like retards that the sky is purple, what else are they gonna do?

>>11944199
seethe more ape

[Anonymous No.11944216]

>>11944206
>These guys literally have a working model and the science is conclusive there is no debate.
You are truly an incredibly unintelligent "man" and it's pathetic that you would continue to believe in faggot nonsense rather than accept reality.
>seethe more ape
I am significantly more intelligent than you and the laws of physics aren't going to magically change just because you post cope on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.11944223]

>>11944216
>t.
seething

[Anonymous No.11944230]

>>11944223
>"if I keep posting then electric universe will come true and SAFIRE won't be a scam"
LITERAL FUCKING RETARD

[Anonymous No.11944233]

>>11942784
I only watched about 5 minutes of this trash video...does he actually do any debunking of the EU or is it all just personal attacks and slander of the EU proponents like the first 5 minutes? Does he have any explanations for for the plasma filaments and massive magnetic fields throughout the galaxy that are being discovered and don't currently have an explanation under standard model? Does he have any explainations for the failure of the standard model of asteroids and comets? You know since the dirty snowball theory is pretty much out of the window at this point since every probe so far that has landed finds a body of rocky debris and not one of ice and dust. Any explanations on the isotopic ratios of Deuterium to Hydrogen for Saturn and Earth?...considering they should be quite different, yet they are not. It's pretty funny watching how assblasted people get when you put any pressure on their flimsy world view...who knows maybe eventually Standard model will start getting the predictions right, I guess until that starts happening the "professionals" will just keep fudging the numbers and making up non existent forces to prop it up ( dark energy/dark matter). Water probably made this canyon on Mars right...you know the planet that is half the size of Earth, has no liquid water and is geologically dead...yeah that makes sense, guess all the Earth could muster up is the Grand Canyon, it was a nice try though.

[Anonymous No.11944247]

>>11944233
That video isn't even the one where he debunks EU, it's where he shows that SAFIRE is a fucking scam and where he talks to the one actual physicist who ever worked at SAFIRE, Dr Lowell Morgan, who explains that SAFIRE is bullshit.
Yes, the one actual physicist who worked for them left and now shits on them because they are charlatans who are FUCKING SCAM ARTIST RETARDS.

[Anonymous No.11944249]

>>11944206
Proving organization behind EU is a scam who purposely hide them moving money around so Safire doesn’t seem connected makes the whole organization lose credit. There is no way to debunk their studies since they don’t have any studies. Safire has no credit now.

[Anonymous No.11944266]

>>11944249
I really don't give two shots what a bunch of spergy pseud autists and glow niggers on an anime forum think about pretty anything desu, I just like watching you seethe like the hack spergs you are. EU is the correct model of the universe period it is conclusive, full stop and nothing anyone says out of their fat Jew faces can change that or stop the mass awakening. Seethe all you want bro I ain't mad at ya.

[Anonymous No.11944271]

>>11944266
>"muh kali yuga muh three six nine muh Tesla muh electric universe"
LITERAL FUCKING RETARD

[Anonymous No.11944276]

>>11944033
mad

[Anonymous No.11944289]

>>11944266
>I don’t care I’m getting scammed for money and lied too
lmao you are actually retarded. You are a sheep.

[Anonymous No.11944290]

>>11944276
>"if I post you're mad it means that EU is real and SAFIRE isn't a scam"
LITERAL FUCKING RETARD

[Anonymous No.11944294]

>>11944289

[Anonymous No.11944317]

>"Quantum mechanics and relativity are Jewish! We live in an Electric Universe!!"

[Anonymous No.11944330]

>>11944294
Imagine watching so many youtube videos that no one could persuade you that the videos are lying to no. No matter how much proof that shows the fishy things going that show they have no credit you still out right believe them. You are a retarded sheep. Then you come here to post your retarded cult shit.

[Anonymous No.11944347]

>>11942994
>>11943704
which means this isn't pol tier lol

>>11943744
you wish marxist faggot, you're poor because you made bad decisions and suffered from indecision

[Anonymous No.11944352]

>>11942371
Imagine actually falling for this bullshit.
This is your brain on /pol/.

[Anonymous No.11944353]

Gravity doesn't exist, the Earth is a magnet, once entering its magnetic field you are attracted to its surface or specifically, the outer crust or circumference of the magnet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRxUl-DIuE&t=193s

Disregard shills, use your own senses. Seeing is believing.

[Anonymous No.11944361]

>>11944330
Imagine getting paidto shill on an anime forum for pedophile psycppaths to try and desperately hold onto power when it is literally written in the stars that you have already lost and selling your soul for chicken scraps. You are pathetic and retarded and I do is lol non stop at you and the other masonic glow niggers who waste your time here trying to put a cat into a bag that just isnt gonna go back in. I hope I get to see you cunts get executed on live tv

[Anonymous No.11944370]

>>11943704
Oh shit ITS HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.11944380]

>>11944361
Imagine thinking the only way someone could mock you is of they're paid to.
Electric Universe is false and no amount of schizophrenic posting is going to change that, you dogshit fucking idiot.it is conclusive full stop. Nothing you say out of your fat faggot face can change the way the universe actually works.

[Anonymous No.11944384]

>>11944233
>You know since the dirty snowball theory is pretty much out of the window at this point since every probe so far that has landed finds a body of rocky debris and not one of ice and dust.
Nice lie retard.

http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/18/philae-settles-in-dust-covered-ice/

>Any explanations on the isotopic ratios of Deuterium to Hydrogen for Saturn and Earth?...considering they should be quite different, yet they are not.
They are an order of magnitude different, retard.

>Water probably made this canyon on Mars right
No, it was probably rift faults.

You retards are so delusional that you can't even get what you're arguing against correct.

[Anonymous No.11944392]

many shills itt

[Anonymous No.11944398]

>>11943098
Tesla

[Anonymous No.11944406]

string-lets btfo

[Anonymous No.11944414]

>>11944384
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/18/philae-settles-in-dust-covered-ice/

>The probe then started to hammer itself into the subsurface, but was unable to make more than a few millimetres of progress even at the highest power level of the hammer motor.
>“If we compare the data with laboratory measurements, we think that the probe encountered a hard surface with strength comparable to that of solid ice,” says Tilman Spohn, principal investigator for MUPUS.


A literal guess, do you even read the fucking shit you link or just google something up quick

>They are an order of magnitude different, retard.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0019103518303580

Highlights

•

Deuterium and carbon 13 are detected in the rings and on satellite surfaces in the Saturn system.
•

New methods are presented for deriving isotopic ratios from reflectance spectra of solids.
•

The D/H ratio of the water in Saturn's rings and icy satellites except Phoebe is close to terrestrial bulk Earth values.

>No, it was probably rift faults.

The planet is geologically dead and even if it wasn't, it is half the size of Earth yet for some mysterious reason unknown to anyone it boasts magnificent geological features that DWARF ANYTHING ON EARTH...THE MOST GEOLOGICALLY ACTIVE PLANET IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM. I guess all those bullseye craters we see every where are just the product of lucky meteor strikes hitting dead center in the crater of a previous meteor strike, because that totally seems like something that would be totally common and happen all the time.

[Anonymous No.11944427]

Why does the sun emit neutrinos?

Where is evidence of the enormous outside current that would have to be flowing into the sun to power it?

Where do these currents come from?

[Anonymous No.11944430]

>>11942994
>/pol/-tier fake news
What's this? WTF. Fuck you kike.

[Anonymous No.11944439]

>>11944427
http://esotericawakening.com/crystal-science

[Anonymous No.11944447]

>>11944439
Who runs that website?

[Anonymous No.11944462]

>>11944447
The avatar of vishnu

[Anonymous No.11944463]

>>11944414
>A literal guess, do you even read the fucking shit you link or just google something up quick
A literal cop out. The data indicates a dirty snowball when you said it wouldn't. You can call following the data "a guess" but that doesn't change the fact that you lied.

>The D/H ratio of the water in Saturn's rings and icy satellites except Phoebe is close to terrestrial bulk Earth values.
Too bad Saturn is not the same composition as its rings, retard!

>The planet is geologically dead
Too bad geologically dead now doesn't mean it was always geologically dead, retard!

As usual, eutards can't into basic logic.

[Anonymous No.11944469]

>>11944439
>crystal-science
>old man pretends to have relationships with living minerals

[Anonymous No.11944480]

1. Find something we don't fully understand in astrophysics, or a complex aspect of something like an isotopic ratio or the formation of varied objects over billions of years.
2. Use the fact that our current theories are still approximate and incomplete to suggest that all of modern science is wrong
3. Propose outrageous theory that has multiple elements that are wildly out of step with existing data,and act like flaws or deficiencies in existing theories somehow make your theory more likely to be true.
4. Ignore or obfuscate the weaknesses of your theory,never publish papers.
5. Build up a cult-like group of cranks and shitposters who will shill your terrible ideas out of a deep-seated need to be the vanguard of a "scientific revolution".


It's so tiresome. We have an early employee explicitly calling SAFIRE a blatant scam and NO independent confirmation of the alleged miraculous results they've gotten.

[Anonymous No.11944483]

>>11944469
Lol glownigger still lurking

[Anonymous No.11944484]

>>11942371
That resonates with the work of Doctor Alfred Schlauberger from 1932, where he showed the electric nature of the universe. Granted, Schlauberger wasn't a physicist but a literature theorist, but his formal proof is solid. So I'm happy that we now see experimental proof coming up.

[Anonymous No.11944491]

>>11944021
Newtonian physics has hit a wall

[Anonymous No.11944495]

>>11944483
You actually think the CIA is trying to suppress EU? How? Why? Your website isn't DDOS'd,your videos get thousands of hits on youtube,you have your faggy events in peace. If the CIA wanted this thing shut down you would;t get push back on 4chan, the founders would get framed for running a pedo ring and commit suicide with two shots to the back of the head.

[Anonymous No.11944502]

>>11944495
they have schizophrenia you cant argue against them with logic.

[Anonymous No.11944504]

How and why is the sun externally powered?

Why does our picture of proton fusion make so much sense for what we observe from the sun? That shit is laid out from first principles.

[Anonymous No.11944510]

>>11944484
https://www.amazon.com/New-Concept-Universe-Walter-Russell/dp/1879605139#:~:text=A%20New%20Concept%20of%20the%20Universe%20is%20a%20book%20that,truth%20to%20what%20Russell%20internalized.

[Anonymous No.11944515]

>>11944483
>glownigger
It's in the source you posted dumbass
Bodhi you are the avatar of Dunning-Kruger

[Anonymous No.11944520]

>>11944495
>implying all those haven't happened to me
stfu retard you got no idea wtf is going in this world or why, suck a dick and die you retarded fucking autist

[Anonymous No.11944521]

>>11944463
The real cop out is a sending a probe on a 10 year mission traveling 1 billion km carrying 60 pounds of scientific gear to something you think is made of ice and dust and the rotary hammer failing to penetrate more the 3mm into the surface...you can buy a handheld consumer rotary hammer drill that weighs less that 4 pounds and will drill into solid concrete at homedepot...would have thought the ESA could have done a little better. I'm not even going to address your other 2 points for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.11944524]

>>11944520
You're being actively targeted by the CIA? Why? How? For how long? Do you have evidence?

[Anonymous No.11944542]

>>11944515
Yet the only reason any.of you hacks on this board are even discussing any of this is because of my work. You are nothing and nobody and my work speaks for itself so keep seething bitch boy. As you can see clearly after me sharing my work over the last 5 years here people are actually starting to understand it now. You are an angry seething little while I just keep on loling and winning so keep posting your mindless drivel if you like I know it is all you have so I wouldn't take it from you.

[Anonymous No.11944565]

>>11944542
>because of my work
Oh you mean that American eclipse happening prediction that failed? Or the 09/27 prediction that failed so hard you had to hide from 4chan for years?
You are way too uppity for someone who has yet to accomplish anything.

[Anonymous No.11944636]

>>11944521
>the ESA is so dumb I could do space stuff way better, it's so easy
Notice how this doesn't explain why you lied.

>I'm not even going to address your other 2 points for obvious reasons.
Yes the obvious reason is that you're a pathetic retarded liar who can't defend his own retardation.

[Anonymous No.11944727]

>>11944021
big yikes incel have sex

[Anonymous No.11944758]

>>11944491
>Newtonian physics has hit a wall
Because they wander equation after equation with no relation to reality
>>11943706
>>11944290
Kek
>>11944033

[Anonymous No.11944783]

>>11943107
He did a good job debunking the EU but goddamn he's a smug arrogant little shit that makes you wanna punch him right in the face even if he's on his side.

[Anonymous No.11944794]

>>11944758
>with no relation to reality
With electric universe you can make up anything you want. Equations are for pussies.

[Anonymous No.11944808]

>Reeeee electric universe
>Reeeee muh relativity
>why can’t we find a universal equation?!?
God damn I though /pol/ was the retard board but this lot probably follows nigger voodoo

[Anonymous No.11944818]

>>11944636
Notice how I make a statement that is true and then you post an article that you didn't read that you think refutes my statement but if you had taken just a few moments to actually read the article after frantically googling it...you would realize it doesn't.

The obvious reason is that you are a gigantic smooth brained faggot who thinks replying with "nuh-uh retard" is actually a valid argument. Do you really think Saturn's rings are not part of Saturn? Do you not find it pretty strange that even if Mars was geologically active in the past that it would be normal for it to have geological features that completely dwarf anything on the most geologically active planet in the solar system that is also twice the size...or any planet for that matter?

[Anonymous No.11944820]

>>11944480
The best response in this shit thread, nicely explained.

[Anonymous No.11944871]

>>11942371
Heres their scientific advisory board.
Anyone notice anything about what their last names are lacking in?

[Anonymous No.11944881]

>>11944818
>Notice how I make a statement that is true
Nothing you said is true and the article refutes it. Instead of defending your lie, you whine about "guessing" aka following what the data says, and how landing a probe on a comet is super easy. You are delusional, faggot.

>Do you really think Saturn's rings are not part of Saturn?
Do you really think lying about what I said is going to help cover up your other lies? I said Saturn is not the same composition as its rings. You claimed the D/H composition of Saturn is the same as Earth's and this presents a problem. This is an easily proven lie, so you attempted to move the goalposts by talking only about Saturn's rings. But this is equally retarded as your initial lie since the composition of Saturn's rings being similar to Earth presents no problem, since no one claimed Saturn's rings originated in the same way as Saturn itself. You fucking retard. You can't even move the goalposts correctly.

>Do you not find it pretty strange that even if Mars was geologically active in the past that it would be normal for it to have geological features that completely dwarf anything on the most geologically active planet in the solar system that is also twice the size...or any planet for that matter?
No, there is literally no reason that's strange since size of the planet is not the only thing that determines how large its formations become. Also, the reason we think Mars is not geologically active is because of volcanic formations that at one point must have been geologically active but are now long dead. But do please ignore all the evidence of plate tectonics on Mars and continue asking retarded questions based on intuition that small planets can't have big formations. Blithering moron.

[Anonymous No.11944884]

>>11944871
>Anyone notice anything about what their last names are lacking in?
PhD in physics

[Anonymous No.11944902]

>>11944884
Fuck that was pretty good

[Anonymous No.11944926]

>>11944818
>Do you not find it pretty strange that even if Mars was geologically active in the past that it would be normal for it to have geological features that completely dwarf anything on the most geologically active planet in the solar system that is also twice the size...or any planet for that matter?
But that's wrong, retard. Earth's undersea rift valleys are larger than Mar's valles. You just don't think of them because they are underwater.

[Anonymous No.11944967]

>>11943107

>this is all a bunch of nonsense
>no I won't do any experiments, it's clearly wrong and beneath me. All their experiments are clearly wrong.

It's disgusting watching this person LARP as an actual scientist.

[Anonymous No.11944970]

>>11944021

lmao you remind me of my smug Mormon cousins

[Anonymous No.11944977]

>>11944177

Yeah, the only thing he succeeded in doing is making me think there isn't actually a valid scientific argument against EU and Safire.

All he had were theories that, unfortunately, don't have much backing them up in actual experimental evidence.

You know, the kind of evidence actual scientists produce.

That dude is about as much of a professor as a critical race theory PHD is a doctor.

[Anonymous No.11944980]

>>11944884
kek

[Anonymous No.11944997]

>>11944480

Ok but what about their actual results, their layered plasma fields.

Nobody is talking about the fucking plasma fields, the actual fucking results.

[Anonymous No.11945002]

>>11944177
Usually its best to be skeptical of those types.
He's trying too hard to be persuasive.
At least be the opposite of 'here's a 5 second clip I took where he says the image looks cool' like he did in a few spots

[Anonymous No.11945074]

>>11942784

Gamer question:

Is this guy's argument basically 'They're going against the meta, what a bunch of fucking noobs?'

I thought the point of science was to run experiments and learn things, not run a bunch of theoretical experiments and learn theoretical things.

These guys are actually running experiments. Isn't that what scientists do?

[Anonymous No.11945108]

>>11945074

Also, has anyone even attempted to replicate the Bell Jar experiment?

[Anonymous No.11945166]

>>11944881
You are unironically fucking retarded mate. You post an article that doesn't confirm the composition of the surface that the probe landed on because it was unable to penetrate into the surface more than 3mm. Stop twisting my fucking words shit for brains. It's actually pretty sad how you cling to something so minor as me not clarifying for you something that even a kindergarten would figure out, when I said Saturn, I meant the Saturn system. Do you understand now? Seems like you can't actually explain the D/H ration problem...you probably can't explain why Earth, Mars, and Saturn also have axial tilts within a few degrees of each other...you can't explain why or how the features on Mars are of the magnitude that they are. You can't explain the literally uncountable amounts of bullseye craters. Please show me any other planet or plantetoid in the solar system that has features even approaching those found on Mars. You are the one that cannot defend anything you spew out, that is why you resort ad hom and accuse people of being liars and act like you have won the argument. It's pathetic and sad.

>>11944926
We probably have some shield volcanos bigger than Olympus Mons as well right. Mars' core must have been a real ripper while it was active.

[Anonymous No.11945198]

>>11943704
t. /pol/

[Anonymous No.11945226]

>>11944997
I don;t know anything about how the experiment is run-just vague details. It's possible they have stumbled upon something novel or interesting, but I don't have access to a paper.

Why don't you tell me the significance of their layered plasma fields,and how those allow you to attain element transmutation and fusion at massively lowered temperatures.

[Anonymous No.11945323]

>>11945108
You mean the one that proves that sound can't travel through vacuum?

[Anonymous No.11945408]

>>11944565
Hi mossad

[Anonymous No.11945419]

>>11943704
>shitposting board is accurate 90%
Okay

[Anonymous No.11945480]

>>11943744

Checked

[Anonymous No.11945511]

>>11943704
maybe when it comes to politics, not science

[Anonymous No.11945560]

LIVESTREAM FROM ITER
>LIVESTREAM FROM ITER
LIVESTREAM FROM ITER
>LIVESTREAM FROM ITER
https://youtu.be/2-7GyVLKE6A

[Anonymous No.11945999]

>>11944727
>EU nazi incel calling anyone else an incel
LITERAL FUCKING RETARD

[Anonymous No.11946002]

>>11944997
Because there aren't any you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.11946008]

>>11944977
Literal fucking retard
EVERYTHING he said is completely consistent with observation and he very clearly explained why EU does not hold up to scrutiny.
Stop coping you fucking moron. The way that a person presents information has no effect on the validity of the information. Dave can be as smug as he wants, it won't change the fact that he is right and EU is low IQ schizophrenic nonsense.

[Anonymous No.11946018]

>>11946008
Stop bumping the fucking thread.

[Anonymous No.11946141]

>>11944524

EU is being actively targeted by the US government, which is why Lockheed Martin is endorsing it lmao

[Anonymous No.11946319]

>>11942784
based

[Anonymous No.11946741]

>>11945166
>You post an article that doesn't confirm the composition of the surface that the probe landed on because it was unable to penetrate into the surface more than 3mm.
Based on hardness and thermal mapping it confirms the composition. I know you read and understood the article, but you're way too delusional to actually admit what it says.

>when I said Saturn, I meant the Saturn system.
Yes, and the Saturn system has a completely different composition from Earth's. Its rings, a small part of its composition, are similar. But this fails to present a problem. So both your initial statement, which you just confirmed is what I said it was, and your pathetic attempt to move the goalposts, fail to support your claim. One is a lie and the other is irrelevant. Please keep defending them, it's fun watching a retard squirm.

>Seems like you can't actually explain the D/H ration problem
I'm still waiting for you to explain why Earth having a similar ratio to Saturn's rings is a problem. Hello... retard... is anyone in there?

>you probably can't explain why Earth, Mars, and Saturn also have axial tilts within a few degrees of each other
Why does this need to be explained? If you pick out planets that have similar axial tilt from all the different axial tilts then they will be similar.

>you can't explain why or how the features on Mars are of the magnitude that they are.
But that's very easy to explain, it's because Mars has fewer, longer tectonic boundaries. This also explains why Mars' volcanoes are so large since more lava is able to accumulate underneath the larger plates.

>You can't explain the literally uncountable amounts of bullseye craters.
That's easy too, the surfaces with high densities of craters are older than Earth's surfaces because erosion is slower.

>Please show me any other planet or plantetoid in the solar system that has features even approaching those found on Mars.
Why? Every planet has unique features.

Nice projection, retard.

[Anonymous No.11946772]

Electric universe is based on Velikovsky, who was a crackpot and also a Jew.

[Anonymous No.11947094]

>>11945511
The first board I ever went to on 4chan was /pol/ and I cracked the matrix before any of you morons and had to sponfeed it to you 5 years before the donkeys on this board before you could even begin to understand it, so nice try buddy.

[Anonymous No.11947097]

>>11946772
It is not you stone cold retard

[Anonymous No.11947237]

>>11947097
Wrong. One of the first people to use the term was Juergens, who specifically attributed to him, “an electric universe in the Velikovskian mode”. Juergens was also the first to propose the electric sun woo, he specially stated that he was inspired by Velikovsky. Talbott published a "journal" before he started his own cult on "Immanuel Velikovsky Reconsidered", he was clearly a follower too.

https://www.kronos-press.com/juergens/k0801-electric-i.htm

EUers love to rant about "big bang creationism" but their cult is based on biblical literalism.

[Anonymous No.11947500]

>Three hour interview with the leader of the project:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vde4GMJY1Tg

>Another great interview (better in some ways, less people talking):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h49AbVfI7KU

[Anonymous No.11947541]

>>11947097
It literally is.

[Anonymous No.11947569]

>>11942371
https://www.plasma-universe.com/
https://www.plasma-universe.com/articles/
https://www.plasma-universe.com/99-999-plasma/
https://www.plasma-universe.com/double-layer/

[Anonymous No.11947582]

>11947569

[Anonymous No.11947587]

>>11947569

[Anonymous No.11947671]

>>11947541
Literally the only thing Velikovsky has contributed to the Electric Universe movement is bringing attention to some ideas about the ancient solar system to the general public via the fame created around him from spotlight the mainstream Jew media put him in in the 1970s. For example Venus having had comet-like attributes and that ancient peoples thought Saturn was important. That's it. And Velikovsky's "ideas" weren't even his own -- he stole ALL of "his" "ideas" from authors who came before him (like Comyns Beaumount) and presented them as new ideas and as if they were his own, while the authors he stole from were totally ignored by the MSM and forgotten. Among normalfags the name Velikovsky is famous and that's why the ThunderboltsProject occasionally bring him up, because he can be used as a springboard to jump from into real topics; it's a way to draw more people in. Velikovksy himself did absolutely nothing to advance scientific understanding of our electric universe, and he brought nothing meaningful to the table which hadn't already been brought by others. The reality is the Jew Velikovsky did far more damage than good to the EU movement. He was used by the MSM as a tool to discredit any alternative scientific theories. That was his job, that was the role he played.

[Anonymous No.11947679]

>>11947587

[Anonymous No.11947695]

>>11947679

[Anonymous No.11947703]

>>11947541
It literally isn't you mindless fool. The true nature of the universe has been taught in mystery schools since the dawn of humanity.

[Anonymous No.11947704]

>>11947679
oh for fuck's sake, of course 99% of the matter in the universe is in the plasma state, its in fucking stars

[Anonymous No.11947720]

>>11947671
Though I agree with most of this as far as EU history I think calling velikofsky a plant is a little much. He did some great history work and pretty good progress in the realm of earth crust displacement being the cause of the sinking of Atlantis etc

[Anonymous No.11947722]

>>11947671
Wrong.
>>11947237
Juergens makes it quite clear that Velikovsky was his primary inspiration for all his work.

You cunts are just trying to whitewash the history of this bullshit to seem more scientific.

[Anonymous No.11947724]

>>11942371
Shut the fuck up and study real physics

[Anonymous No.11947725]

>>11947722
Stfu you stupid fucking cunt

[Anonymous No.11947735]

>>11947695
Charge mobility in solids has nothing to do with the ratio of electrons and ions. These people don't even understand high school physics.

[Anonymous No.11947750]

>>11947722
And? Fact remains Velikovsky did zero science and brought nothing meaningful to the table. Plasma physics and the science of SAFIRE has nothing whatsoever to do with Velikovsky.

[Anonymous No.11947755]

>>11947735

[Anonymous No.11947776]

>>11947679
>>11947695
So who exactly is making these "info" graphs? They have been popping up a lot lately, all in the same style, and look well made & well written, but keep pushing absolute nonsense. Did those Safire guys hire an advertisement firm or something?

[Anonymous No.11947787]

>>11947750
>Fact remains Velikovsky did zero science and brought nothing meaningful to the table.
Just like EU and SAFIRE. Thanks for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.11947795]

>>11947787
Thanks for totally exposing yourself and admitting defeat, bro. That was quick.

[Anonymous No.11947817]

>>11947704
>of course 99% of the matter in the universe is in the plasma state, its in fucking stars

99.99% of the space /between/ stars and other objects is plasma. See: https://www.plasma-universe.com/99-999-plasma/

[Anonymous No.11947824]

>>11947750
It exposes the pseudoscientific foundation of all this bullshit. The electric sun was not proposed because it was a natural explanation or because of plasma physics, it was literally just because some sperg read too much science-fiction. The fact that at least one key member of the EU cult worships Velikovsky clearly shows that they cannot discern science and made-up bullshit.

> Fact remains Velikovsky did zero science
Neither did the rest of these cunts.

>>11947755
No, that's what it literally says.

[Anonymous No.11947827]

>>11947817

[Anonymous No.11947839]

>>11947824
>EU cult
Just keep exposing yourself, it's glorious :)

[Anonymous No.11947861]

>>11947824

[Anonymous No.11948674]

>>11947827
Again, who the fuck even makes these?

[Anonymous No.11948767]

>>11947861
Retarded minds discuss EU nonsense.

[Anonymous No.11949026]

What is a double-layer plasma? How does it work? Why is it so important?

[Anonymous No.11949102]

>>11947776
I'm guessing it's the same schizo who will dump a hundred posts of copypasta about EU into a thread nobody else replies to at least once a week

[Anonymous No.11949396]

>>11944021
I bet you are a virgin, only an autistic virgin would be this angry and retarded about what people on anime think. There is something wrong with you mate, not even memeig. If you are frothing at the mouth atm be sure to see a doctor asap

[Anonymous No.11949416]

>>11944289
>makes up an incoherent non sequitur about someone investing something, something, something out of thin air and calls someone else retarded.

You are a literal schizo friend. What you are doing there is called magical thinking. It consists of inventing a non existent reality based your misperceived notions of events to come up with bizarre conclusions about motives, actions, and events. You should see a psychologist and work on some therapy your disorder will cause havoc for you in your relationships if you don't for the rest of your life

[Anonymous No.11949560]

>>11944565
My thoughtforms have taken over every board on this shithole website in a few short years and are tearing down what took you hebes 1000's of years to build. Stay mad hoe

[Anonymous No.11949733]

>>11949102
once a day at this point.
These people are pathetic
>>11949396
>I bet you are a virgin
You'd lose that bet
>only an autistic virgin would be this angry and retarded about what people on anime think
False
>There is something wrong with you mate
False

[Anonymous No.11949737]

>>11949560
Delusions of grandeur are pathetic. You are nothing but a schizo and history will not remember you.

[Anonymous No.11949741]

>>11947817
>99.99% of the space /between/ stars and other objects is plasma
False
>https://www.plasma-universe.com/99-999-plasma/
Not a source nor an argument.
You're the schizo who posts sky scholar and thinks that kurchoff's law is false aren't you?

[Anonymous No.11949798]

>>11942380
>>11942397
>>11942784
>>11942787
>>11942994
>>11943104
>>11943105
>if neil degrasse tyson doesn't approve it, I am not gonna believe it.

[Anonymous No.11949810]

>>11949798
Literal fucking retard

[Anonymous No.11949814]

>>11949810
awwww he is still angry.

[Anonymous No.11949817]

>>11949814
Awww he still doesn't have a single argument.
Literal fucking retard

[Anonymous No.11949822]

>>11949817
>still doesn't have a single argument.

lol, who is the retard now, i did provide an argument but you don't seem to understand.

[Anonymous No.11949825]

>>11949822
No you didnt. There is not a single argument ITT that holds up to scrutiny.
You are the retard as you believe in falsified EU schizo nonsense despite literally all evidence proving you wrong.

[Anonymous No.11949853]

>>11949825
yes I did, you are the one who hasn't provided anything but empty words and lies.

[Anonymous No.11949874]

>>11949825
Explain how the sun produces neutrinos in the EU. Explain how the visible light spectrum the sun produces is consistent with the idea that the sun is nuclear, instead of plasma

[Anonymous No.11949876]

>>11949853
Fucking retard, no you didnt.
Give a single argument.
>>11949874
>Explain how the visible light spectrum the sun produces is consistent with the idea that the sun is nuclear, instead of plasma
LITERAL FUCKING RETARD

[Anonymous No.11949898]

>>11949876
No response, I guess that means EU is bullshit and you know it.

[Anonymous No.11949959]

>>11949898
I'm the one saying that EU is fucking bullshit you fucking moron. Read the fucking thread you sniveling dogshit moron.

[Anonymous No.11949964]

>>11949898
I mean jesus christ you utter fucking moron I literally said
>"You are the retard as you believe in falsified EU schizo nonsense despite literally all evidence proving you wrong."
HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU THINK IM ARGUING FOR EU YOU MORON

[Anonymous No.11949976]

>>11949876
There is no point in debating you, those with the scientific spirit and earnest interest in truth will look for truth everywhere, no matter how much the 'scientific inquisition' will try to hinder him or try to ridicule scientists with new nonconforming theories. i also already know the best strategy against people like you, which is to just post as much material as possible on the new theory.

https://youtu.be/AeRwIVpr8Dw
https://youtu.be/338of49iF0k

[Anonymous No.11949985]

>>11949976
It isnt fucking new newfag this was taught for 10's of thousands of years at the very least before the (((relativity))) quackery

[Anonymous No.11949987]

>>11949985
it is (relatively) new in the scientific field.

[Anonymous No.11949993]

How Does the Sun Work?

https://youtu.be/RlpFaLgAbps

[Anonymous No.11950001]

>>11949876
Still waiting for an actual argument against my points. And sure, I may be wrong about what my visible light point, but I'd sure as hell like you to explain away the neutrinos from the sun. And while you're at it, explain why all the tests of relativity were actually wrong. It'll be hilarious watching you fail.

[Anonymous No.11950021]

>>11949987
No... it isn't. It is called sanatana Dharma, or Hindu to the laymen

https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/tesla-light-sound-sanskrit_uI3uwzTuznKZWS2.html

[Anonymous No.11950039]

>>11949798

[Anonymous No.11950044]

Donald Scott: Electric Sun & the Mystery of "Hot" Solar Wind

https://youtu.be/8ECEOeJHsPE

Donald Scott: What Causes the Sun's Magnetic Loops?

https://youtu.be/B6qGwV1LMgQ

[Anonymous No.11950152]

>>11950039
Electric Sun/Earth Connection Confirmed (Again)

https://youtu.be/8Hp1ohQsT-k

Solar Neutrinos in the Electric Universe

https://youtu.be/nxAtAptwjsE

[Anonymous No.11950221]

>>11950152
lmao, that was such a bunch of bullshit that I can't even imagine why you would listen to it.
>Nature does things the easy way, therefore the sun is a particle accelerator
Because particle accelerators are DEFINITELY easy to make. Beyond which, have you seen nature? It does not do things "the easy way."
>If neutrinos have mass, it'll confirm the electric universe model
I'm sorry, where does this come from? According to how the electric model works, the sun shouldn't be producing neutrinos at all, explain that to me.
I still have no explanation on how the EU is supposed to work. I still have no explanation for why relativity is wrong,
and this entire video is a schizo complaining that scientists sometimes change their mind when confronted with evidence.

[Anonymous No.11950239]

>>11946141
...what!?!?! Lockheed Martin isn't doing nay such thing.

[Anonymous No.11950245]

>>11942371
fusion power is partially a joke. the hard part comes in transferring the heat generated . you cant dump water on it directly so how much heat do you get to harvest for energy ? well it cant be hot enough to melt metal so that caps it. the metals used will determine much of how efficient it could ever be. higher melting point the better

however when you think fusion the first thing the media says its like the sun. no its not. you can never contain that. they get sub 20% conversion and cant figure out how to transfer the heat properly. magnetic fields restrict direct contact of the plasma to almost nothing (stray particles slam into the housing) so what are you dealing with? well plasma contained by a series of super strong magnetic fields and since all the gas gets super hot the outside of the magnetic field is basically a vacuum. how much heat transfers through a vacuum without using light as a conduit? any one? any one? buler? almost nothing is the correct answer

drops mic

[Anonymous No.11950261]

>>11950245
>the hard part comes in transferring the heat generated

The science behind heat exchange for fusion is well explored-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPBwWicctmY

This post is Dunning-Kruger incarnate. You have actually thought that you figured something out that never occurred to tens of thousands of scientists.

[Anonymous No.11950744]

>>11942371
I've been following the Safire project since 2013! It's been an incredible journey and it's amazing how far they've come over the last few years. Real scientific projects like these, that bring real innovation and a practical application of out-of-the-box thinking are extremely encouraging to witness and such a breathe of fresh air. Safire has truly given me hope in science again, and not just in science but the future of humanity as well.

[Anonymous No.11950814]

>>11944483
saved

[Anonymous No.11950823]

>>11949741
Retard detected.

[Anonymous No.11952767]

>>11950823
False

[Anonymous No.11952775]

>>11949976
These aren't sources you moron.
Youtube videos of schizos isn't science. Stop disrespecting the noble study of the universe with your schizo nonsense

[Anonymous No.11952785]

>>11950001
>Still waiting for an actual argument against my points
You've made no points
>explain why all the tests of relativity were actually wrong
Literally none of them have been wrong relativity is the most thoroughly substantiated theory in physics

[Anonymous No.11953199]

>>11943185
At this point in the year 2020, having poor english skills is schizo-tier. Get with the fucking program.

[Anonymous No.11953310]

>>11948767
>we good they bad
you never really left the cave did you?

[Anonymous No.11953352]

Mainstream cosmology has 300 years of evidence based research, observable phenomenon explained with rigorous mathematics, and millions of scientists across the world working on research to uncover the yet not understood corners of cosmology, doing so with actual observation and mathematics mind you.
EU has a handful of schizos with no training in physics making low budget videos on the Thunderbolts project channel with no mathematics (they LITERALLY CLAIM that mathematics isn't necessary for a physical theory and that real physics is "too mathematical") and the only thing they can do is cry when people mock them and claim that because they're mocked, this means that mainstream cosmologists "have no arguments except for ad hominem" and that this somehow substantiates their schizo nonsense.

[Anonymous No.11953851]

stop arguing with the EU tard. let him be scammed by con artists and live in his special little world. he wont convince anyone worth convincing and he sure as hell wont reproduce.