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And what did you with it?
Or what are you doing with a now?
Are you, or planning on being, a math teacher?

>> No.11936123

It's entirely useless. Just a huge waste of time. Outside of academia nobody gives a shit about mathematical proofs.

>> No.11936128
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11936128

any job I want
300k starting

>> No.11936132

>>11936128
absolute archaic meme

>> No.11936146

>>11936132
it's still true, unironically

>> No.11936147

>>11936101
I got a PhD in Mathematics.
Now I'm 33 years old and serve fries at McDonald's.

>> No.11936153

>>11936147
was it the job you wanted?
is it 300k starting?

>> No.11936160

>>11936153
No.
It's $8.25 an hour. They keep me right at 20 hours a week so that I don't get any benefits.

>> No.11936164

>>11936160
maybe you should just apply to finance firms, ignore the mcdonalds experience, and make up shit about your abilities in the interview?

>> No.11936167

>>11936164
I think I will just kill myself instead, thank you for the suggestion however.

>> No.11936170

>>11936167
please don't
if nobody else values your presence, at least I do. wanna talk about it?

>> No.11936174

>>11936128
I laugh

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>>11936101
Note to self
Unless your course is needed to get a professional license, it's absolutely useless

You go to college for a license in medicine, engineering, and education.

Math, philosophy, history, and art are courses you take only if you want to be a proffessore on such fields. Otherwise, you can learn them on your own via internet

>> No.11936182

>>11936180
A degree in engineering is not a license.
Some states require an engineering degree in order to sit for the FE exam, but some do not.

>> No.11936190

>>11936182
I know shit on engineering but I am sure that no one's gonna hire you to deal with planning buildings if you did not pass the board exams

>> No.11936194

>>11936190
then just pass any relevant exams n-word it's not hard

>> No.11936198

>>11936190
Are you an AI or something?
I always encounter these posts that seem to be completely oblivious to the context of the conversation.
It's like they just see certain phrases and then put together a weird amalgamation of ideas that have nothing to do with what was being said.

>> No.11936199

>>11936101

I don't know, but I think that there is a non-zero chance that other posters in this thread may be talented in math (if not Ph.Ds). Therefore, I address a mathematical question to them. Please let me know the fractal dimension of the burger-like object in the OP.

>> No.11936200

>>11936199
4 to 1

>> No.11936205

>>11936199
3 spacelike dimensions

>> No.11936701

>>11936164
>$600/month
but hey you work 3 hours a day

>> No.11936765

I dropped out of my math program one semester after the master’s.
I wanted to learn more about statistics and programming so I took some Biostats courses and did some data science bootcamps. Now I earn six figures at a financial company.
Tbh working theory was never for me. But to be a data scientist you have to know a lot of programming shit.

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11936782

I recall that lecture by Voyevodsky where he explained why he dropped topology: some big ass diagram with a mistake nobody gave shit about.

>>11936123

sadly this, aren't the things just supposed to work? det(A+B)=det A+det B, now I am a quant or something

yeah, whatever

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>>11936101

any medication i want
300 mg starting

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>>11936147
What happened?

I did a PhD in Physics, had a hard time finding a relevant job for a while. Hang on in there anon, we do care.

>> No.11937826

>>11936101
/sci/ is filled with negative examples but ever since I also started posting on Wallstreet Oasis every now and then I read some post about a Ph.D. in Mathematics (usually something in probability theory) working in a hedge fund or applying to hedge funds and of course making the big bucks.

Math people on /sci/ are typically still attached to academia and it's paradigms (mainly publish or perish and forced poverty on professors) but if you look on websites that cater to professionals you'll find business owners and finance professionals.

>> No.11939311

>>11936101
my colleague has a math PhD and he is an absolute autist

>> No.11939443

>>11936782
>I recall that lecture by Voyevodsky where he explained why he dropped topology: some big ass diagram with a mistake nobody gave shit about.
link?

>> No.11939450

>>11936101
>What is it like having a Ph.D in Math?

I wake up in the morning and the first thing I remember is that I have my goddamn doctorate in mathematics, this results in an immediate rush of endorphins and testosterone which will last for the rest of the day. I then get to work writing down the proofs to the theorems that I solved in my head last night. After that I fuck my 10/10 wife while thinking about my research. I then leave without eating breakfast since I no longer require sustenance. Next follows morning lectures gracing plebs with some invaluable insight into my mind and its firm grasp on the most important field of study in human history. The rest of the I spend developing various mathematical structures on blackboards, the results of which will applied to curing all cancers and building thermodynamically efficient cold fusion reactors. As the day winds down I ponder my surreal existence, I have to dig up my degree to remind myself of the reality that I do in fact have a PhD in mathematics. Finally I fall asleep holding my doctorate and 300k salary slip in my arms.

And then I do it all again.

>> No.11939460

>>11939443

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RiR9AcXeE

>> No.11939480

>>11939311
I hear some of the greatest chip designers also are absolute autists, not all are entirely well functioning.

>>11939450
I had expected that one earlier.

>> No.11939492

>>11936198
no I am not oblivious certain phrases that you have said

>> No.11939499

>>11936765
How hard is it to make it inside?
Also do you do financial research, quantitative analysis or investment banking?

Also I suck at stochastic. How much stochastics do you need?

>> No.11939715

>>11939499
If you want to be a quant, you need to get good at python programming for data science/machine learning, SQL, then learn some C++.
/sci/ has the most “academic” perspective on wall st quants. In real life it involves a lot of hands-on coding, data wrangling and machine learning. Only once you’ve mastered that (and had a few years experience doing it) can you move to more theoretical stuff.
Before you worry about stochastic processes and Brownian motion just get good at statistics for data science and understanding time series. Understanding stats, time series, and the essentials of the financial world is needed for understanding Black Scholes.

I recommend Hull’s Options and Derivatives. It’s not very quantitative but you need to understand like everything in it before you’re actually any use to a financial company.

>> No.11939735

>>11939715
The coding is easy for me.
My masters is in numerical methods and analysis and simulation.
I actually have quite a few classes I can take that focus on finance and in particular numerical finance so basically computing SDEs.

But, does it pay better than being a software engineer elsewhere?

>> No.11939775

>>11939735
Yes it pays better than software engineering.
But yes it’s hard to get in. Not impossible I’m just saying it takes time to get your first job if you don’t have industry experience.
And you should have some data science/machine learning MOOCs on your resume even if you have a PhD.

>> No.11939779

>implying anyone on 4chan actually has a degree

>> No.11940035

Math teacher here

All my classes are online

For the fall, I’m teaching 4 sections of statistics so I will need to spend around 30 hours setting up the course and doing lectures, then around 2-4 hours a week of actual work all semester.
I’m hoping to find another place or 2 to teach at to double this course load and make more money. It’s super chill and easy, I’m very poor but for the amount of work I do I can hardly complain.

I don’t have a PhD though just a masters.

>> No.11940069

>>11936101
A new world of possibilities opens up for you, you're practically guaranteed to get a job somewhere even if it's some third rate place, and the wage is pretty good. In short, you don't need to worry about anything anymore, just get the job somewhere and live comfortably after that.

>> No.11940083

>>11940069
let me get the #6, #2 no fries, large chocolate shake

>> No.11940125

>>11936123
But the point is that the student cares about it

>> No.11940135

>>11939735
> The coding is easy for me

This is what every academic noob says until it’s time to code something real. Like using image data to predict movements in stock prices of retail stores.
You’ve gotta learn *NIX, bash, git/version control, etc. to code for a living. Much of actual coding is about IT infrastructure and has nothing to do with math. So you’ve got to spend several months getting good at that, then go back to the math stuff if you want to trade options.

>> No.11940148

>>11940135
>using image data to predict movements in stock prices of retail stores.
Easy as fuck, fucking brainlet

>> No.11940204

Thinking about doing a Ph.D and currently in a masters. I hate the corperate world and I'm fine with teaching. I've already got a good nest egg to fall back on...It's comfy.

>> No.11940248

>>11936123
unfortunatly, this is the truth

>> No.11940406

>>11940135
No, I know what you mean.
I did some physical simulations and the amount of additional software infrastructure to run the simulation vastly outweighs the 3 lines of math code that is the actual numerical method.
But I think this is actually my forte.

>>11940148
Don't be rude.

>> No.11940421

>>11936147
Can you do freelancing with your skills in a better paying more fulfilling way?

>> No.11940456

>>11940204
How did you get the nest egg?

>> No.11942202

>>11936147
I'll have a uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>> No.11942222

>>11942202
Orgasm?

>> No.11943119

>>11942222
>>11934506