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dude what the fuck is infinity how the fuck are singularities real ahahahahahahaha lmao this shit is even more retarded than religion

>> No.11918516

>>11918511
Have sex

>> No.11918524
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>>11918511
>dude what the fuck is infinity how the fuck are singularities
>doesn't understand the math behind it

>> No.11918532

>>11918524
Math doesn't explain what infinity is at all.

>> No.11918533

>>11918532
Fuck you're retarded

>> No.11918534

>>11918532
Do you understand why it was labelled 'singularity' in the first place?

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>>11918511

>> No.11918537

>>11918533
Why are you so defensive?
>>11918534
Because it involves an infinite quantity of some sort? That doesn't refute what I said

>> No.11918547

>>11918537
>Because it involves an infinite quantity of some sort? That doesn't refute what I said
Singularity is a term that is used to refer when you encounter infinities in your solutions. It in reality has no physical inferences. It's just a placeholder because math isn't advanced enough that we can 'mathematically' work with infinities.
When someone says, "there's a singularity at the center of bholes", doesn't mean that it has infinite everything. He rather means that our current understanding of math, forbids us from going deeper.

>> No.11918550

>>11918547
Yes, that is my point, hence my question "what the fuck is infinity"

>> No.11918556

>>11918550
>>11918511
>this shit is even more retarded than religion
It's not retarded. It's just a placeholder. It helps to circumvent this problem and continue our other physical endeavors.
I would rather say,
>Religion is more retarded than infinities

>> No.11918613

>>11918547
>our current understanding of math, forbids us from going deeper.
did you try carrying the 2?

>> No.11918660

>>11918613
wdym?

>> No.11918672

>>11918660
I don't know. Sometimes I think I can't figure something out, but it turns out I forgot to carry a number.

>> No.11918684

>>11918672
It's not really as simple as that.
Infinity math doesn't make conventional sense.
So, we definitely need a new framework in order to deal with this.

>> No.11918773

>>11918684
What's the actual problem? Can you explain simply where the roadblock is?

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>>11918773
Heard of the Schwarzschild radius?
It basically tells you at what distance from the center, the escape velocity equals c.

In bhole physics, since the G force is so much, all matter is crushed at its core.
Here the mass is finite, but density tends to infinity.
The slope tends to 1 as you near the center. But what is the slope? It's just the tan of the angle.
pic related is a good visualization.
All equations just tells us that the density is infinite, since the volume is zero. Why? Because remember that volume of a nice sphere is proportional to the cube of the radius.
There currently exists no force (in theory) that can hold against the massive g forces of a bhole. In our sun, this force is counteracted by the internal pressure as a results of thermonuclear fusion .

This no force, causes equations near the center to spit out infinity. But that really shouldn't be the case.

Maybe we need a new framework, or maybe we need to discover new forces much stronger than before. But currently, our equations just break. And nothing can be done.

>> No.11919239

>>11918820
>crushed at its core
what does this mean? electrons blasted off / smushed down onto the nucleus? or does it mean everything is blasted into waves/wave packets? or do we not know?
>All equations just tells us that the density is infinite, since the volume is zero
How do you know the volume is zero?

>> No.11919452

>>11919239
>How do you know the volume is zero?
The volume in reality may not be. But the equations do state that. Nothing confirms whether the volume is zero or not.

>>11919239
>what does this mean? electrons blasted off / smushed down onto the nucleus? or does it mean everything is blasted into waves/wave packets? or do we not know?
crushed into itself. Electrons crushed in photons. Even the stronger force is not powerful enough.

>> No.11919460

>>11919452
>stronger force
*strong force

>> No.11919739

>>11919452
>The volume in reality may not be.
If there's stuff still there, the volume can't be zero.
>crushed into itself. Electrons crushed in photons
I still don't understand what this means. Are all of the protons/neutrons/electrons still there, or are they turned into something else?