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Wtf is this. Crazy? Booksales? What is behind this cult?
https://www.nsfwyoutube.com/watch?v=T9q-v4lBGuw

>> No.11912906
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>Another EU thread

>> No.11912908

>>11912906
I'm not promoting this.

>> No.11912913

>>11912894
Something that raging autists very confidently talk about, while not understanding even basic physics. It's the same kind of people that say that space is flat (despite gravitational waves), that the Big Bang is a stupid idea (while not providing any alternative), etc. There is an anti-academia feeling involved, basically like in flat-earthism but more subtle

>> No.11912915

>>11912913
there are issues with the standard model and these EU snake oil salesmen seep though the cracks.

>> No.11912920

>>11912894
Yeah it falls into the realm of conspiracy, most of the evidence for it is based on paranoia, basically the proponents of it have brainworms.

>> No.11912921

>>11912913
Also these people will often talk about how "mainstream physicists" are closed-minded and not really interested in understanding the universe, about how they are a persecuted class of unrecognized visionaries, about how one day their ideas will be vindicated, etc.

>> No.11912922

>>11912906
>>11912913
>>11912915
>>11912920
But whats behind it. Anything more than crazy? Some have put effort to promot it.

>> No.11912924

>>11912922
>But whats behind it.
Certainly not science or math. Stop shitting up the board faggot.

>> No.11912925

>>11912894
Same guy also made a video the other week debunking the safe sun which is closely related to to EU nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVdPgkudC8

>> No.11912927

>>11912925
Safire Sun**

>> No.11912934

>>11912894
>>11912906
>>11912908

No he is not promoting this, a clear sign of the intelligence of Einstein fanatics.

>> No.11912937

>>11912934
Take your meds.

>> No.11912946

>>11912913
Did you even know what "flat space" means in your occult einstein fanatic theory?
Bicause i know what it means being my self no einstein fanatic.

>> No.11912979

>>11912946
Yes, flat space is Minkowski space. It does not allow gravitational waves. But surely the LIGO detections are unreliable, tampered and/or not statistically relevant, right?

>> No.11913055

>>11912894
>EU
Ok, build an electromagnetic engine to power a spaceship then. I'll wait.

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>>11912913
>It's the same kind of people that say that space is flat
Space doesn't exist, how's that for a starting point?
>Big Bang is a stupid idea
It is stupid. From nothing comes nothing, and logically so. The idea itself is unscientific in every regard.

>>11912894
>Wtf is this. Crazy? Booksales? What is behind this cult?
>no it's not the fact that modern science still hasn't explained how gravity or magnets work which is why people are filling in the blanks with their own explanations.

>>11912915
"We measured the speed of light with light"-physishit.
"we believe space has properties, can be bent and is something despite no evidence"- almost all scientists

>>11913055
>Ok, build an electromagnetic engine to power a spaceship then
electrostatic induction. I would call it a "field-ship" though since people confuse fields for "Space".

>> No.11913141

OP here. I have to conclude that Electric Universe is stupidity. Thanks /sci/.
/thread

>> No.11913149

>>11913091
>Space doesn't exist, how's that for a starting point?
Stupid starting point
>It is stupid. From nothing comes nothing, and logically so. The idea itself is unscientific in every regard.
The big bang does NOT say "the universe came from nothing". This is something that scientists with atheistic leanings posit. It is not intrinsic at all to the big bang theory and anyone telling you it is, is lying to you about the theory.
>>no it's not the fact that modern science still hasn't explained how gravity or magnets work which is why people are filling in the blanks with their own explanations.
False
>"We measured the speed of light with light"-physishit.
False
>"We measured the speed of light with light"-physishit.
False
>electrostatic induction. I would call it a "field-ship" though since people confuse fields for "Space".
Schizo babble.

>> No.11913158

>>11913091
>Space doesn't exist, how's that for a starting point?
Can you elaborate or guide me with some links, thanks.

>> No.11913169

>>11913158
He's berserkerfag, a known schizo retard

>> No.11913173

>>11913149
Stupid starting point
I see, so you have empirical proof of space then? Perhaps time? Post please, I'm curious.

>posts about what the big bang doesn't say but nothing about what it actually says
At least you aren't lying, you just didn't say anything of use.

>False
Explain how magnets work

>False
Oh no that happens, all the time actually. One must wonder how you can measure the speed of something with a different quality of itself.

>Schizo babble.
>he doesn't even understand what electrostatic induction is
Of course you don't, that's why people like you redescribe the same phenomena over and over and call it something new with each re-description. In this case they call it "the doppler effect", which is explained using other nonsensical, non\-explained descriptions such as "Space" and "Gravity". Yet they fail to realize that a moving bodies causes induction in the dielectric object that is "planet/moving matter".

>> No.11913175

>>11913173
>I see, so you have empirical proof of space then? Perhaps time? Post please, I'm curious.
Only 4 dimensional spaces mathematically have an infinite amount of unique manifolds.
All other dimensions have strictly finite amount of unique manifolds.
Reality mathematically has to be 4 dimensional. That's why spacetime is a four dimensional manifold - it literally has to be.
>EU schizo babble
Dismissed.

>> No.11913176

>>11913158
>prove someone else's claim
"No", provide me proof of said claim. That's why I keep asking for evidence of "space".

>> No.11913189

>>11913175
>Only 4 dimensional spaces mathematically have an infinite amount of unique manifolds.
>most posts of no use
I said provide me empirical evidence, not another description of what you think is there. Thanks.
>Reality mathematically has to be 4 dimensional.
well I'm talking about "reality", moron.
>That's why spacetime is a four dimensional manifold - it literally has to be.
Oh I see, so for you to discuss it using the language of math it has to be a four dimensional manifold. Sure. Why not. I don't see the problem. That still does not mean anything since you speak of a shadow, you're now doing so in a different language. Why you think that means something is beyond me, just provide me actual empirical evidence of its existence. Kthx.

>Dismissed.
yep, just ignore the elephant in the room, it's not like there's this thing called a Van de Graaff generator that exists which causes this phenomena or anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_induction