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Dynkin Edition

Previously >>11903921

>> No.11909842

>>11909838
first for sucking cock

>> No.11909845 [DELETED] 
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second for elliptic functions

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second for elliptic functions

>> No.11909868

Where is he?

>> No.11909888

Why is E8 the secret to the universe?

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>Zariski topology

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>>11909838
fourth for the absolute state of your maths departments

>> No.11909893

Burying myself with warm red sand, I internally reviewed the first manuscript I was to translate. It was on new discoveries in fluid dynamics, a paper on how a fluid field could be described by differential functionals of with certain internal tension forms. As I tried to string together mathematically coherent German sentences, I swirled the sand around me in slow-time, trying to observe the effects talked about in the paper. Feeling graphs slowly shifting over time helped, I believe, putting a geometry to my writing where one set of grammar was within the function and the other without – Die Funktion von W.
Language, though preserving most of its vocabulary and grammar, has been taking the course mathematics did in the 22nd century after the introduction of hypersymbolism by Feynman and then the string theorists in their equation-diagrams.

>what do you guys think of this math paragraph in my scifi story

>> No.11909895

>>11909893
>differential functionals of with certain internal tension forms
check your grammar, but I liked it otherwise

>> No.11909897

>>11909893
>of with

>> No.11909899

>>11909891
do Americans really?

>> No.11909901

Do the only automorphisms of k[X_1, ... , X_n] that fix k arise from linear substitutions?

>> No.11909905

>>11909891
kek Harvardfags btfo

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What is the white man's field of maths, /mg/?

>> No.11909920

>>11909909
Algebra

>> No.11909921

>>11909909
Everything

>> No.11909932

>>11909909
geometry and topology
and analysis if you want to count Jews as white, although that was mostly the 20th century and they're being rapidly replaced by the Chinese. At the moment the Chinese really only have a stranglehold on PDE groups though.

>> No.11909939

>>11909909
Everything except the really autistic jewish stuff

>> No.11909949

>>11909932
>rapidly replaced by the Chinese
Chinese papers are almost all boring and terrible.

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>>11909901

>> No.11910008

>>11909891
wtf this is a blue board

>> No.11910019

bros...
why doing maths is so stressful...

>> No.11910027

>>11909842
Are you offering?

>> No.11910028

>>11910019
because it matters

>> No.11910029

>>11910019
Why not? Stress is fun.

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i'll do the honours
>Elliptic curves

>> No.11910046

>>11910034
why are elliptic curves so special?

>> No.11910051

>>11909891
fuk

>> No.11910053

>>11910046
>he thinks elliptic curves poster knows literally anything about them

>> No.11910055

The elliptic curves Chad fears the abelian varieties gigachad

>> No.11910072

>>11910053
the real elliptic curves poster isn't here yet, i just did it for him because he's late

>> No.11910073

>>11909891
kys

>> No.11910075

>>11909909
>pic
I can't wait until biology subsumes sociology and critical theorycels get the rope

>> No.11910083

Threadly reminder to work with gender theorists.

>> No.11910093

>>11910083
work on what

>> No.11910096

>>11910093
On your whiteness and your preconceptions.

>> No.11910101

>>11910093
here's one of the great unsolved problems of mathematical gender theory: what is the cardinality of the set of sexual orientations?

>> No.11910109

>>11910101
define sexual orientations. You may not use oriented manifolds.

>> No.11910110

>>11910101
am I allowed to use forcing or is that rape culture?

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>>11910101
Assume that there's a set of all genders:
That is literally fascism and imposing your disgusting preconceptions on the possibilities of trans people. Who are you to tell people what genders they can identify as, bigot?
Thus, there are only two genders, q.e.d.

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>>11909888

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Context: Sturm-Liouville stuff.
Did the author slip up with the [math]y^2(0)[/math] and it should be [math]y(0)^2[/math]? On one hand, [math]y(y(0))[/math] shouldn't necessarily exist, from the definitions until now. On the other, he kinda placed the exponents inconsistently, so I don't know.

>> No.11910179

>>11910146
Writing [math]f^2(x)[/math] for [math]f(x)^2[/math] is a common notation in some fields, especially for older books and older people. It's still done with [math]\sin^2x[/math] instead of the ugly [math](\sin x)^2[/math], with logarithms and theta functions, and so on.
He didn't slip up, he just assumes the reader won't be that much of an autist to get too fucked up about it, and will know exactly what he means.

>> No.11910184

>>11910101
Independent of ZFC

>> No.11910185

>>11910019
I never deal properly with problems in my life so if I see a problem and I don't get the answer instantly in my head I go into a trance of brainlet self hatred. Which I might deserve, but it certainly doesn't help

>> No.11910192

>>11910179
>He didn't slip up, he just assumes the reader won't be that much of an autist to get too fucked up about it, and will know exactly what he means.
I wouldn't get confused if he consistently used one of them, you ass.

>> No.11910196

Yeah, I'm thinking I'm too dumb for algebraic topology.

>> No.11910201

>>11909891
Plz dont kil her =(

>> No.11910218

i was thinking about the problem of which is bigger out of 2^300 and 3^200, which can be solved by just seeing that 2^3<3^2, but is there a general solution to this, where is x^kx bigger than (kx)^x? and what about (x+k)^x and x^(x+k)? i looked on wolframalpha and where k=1, x^(x+k)>(x+k)^x for x>=2.29317 but why is that? what processes do you use to find the solutions to x^kx=(kx)^x and (x+k)^x=x^(x+k)

>> No.11910224

>>11910218
take logarithms

>> No.11910226

>>11910192
kek

>> No.11910227

>>11909891
Bitches name is Milena D, fyi. It was irking me

>> No.11910254

>>11909891
state of this shitboard

>> No.11910294

If I have something like [math]\sqrt{a^2 + b^2 - 2ab\cos {\beta}}[/math], any idea on how to simplify it?

>> No.11910304

>>11910294
nothing to simplify here

>> No.11910306

>>11910294
plug it into wolframalpha?

>> No.11910308

>>11910294
unless you're getting this from cosine law on some triangle, in which case it's just the other side, there's nothing you can do in general

>> No.11910352

>>11910218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI1NeGtJo7s

>> No.11910370

>>11910101
depends if you are using axiom of gender choice

>> No.11910385

>>11910101
say there are 4 billion people of sexual maturity on the planet, attraction to any subset of them defines a unique sexual orientation, therefore there are approximately [math]2^{4000000000}[math] possible sexual orientations.

>> No.11910388

>>11910294
Write it as the magnitude of the vector [math]\mathbf{u}=(a,b)[/math] with [math]\beta[/math] the angle between [math]a[/math] and [math]b[/math]

>> No.11910456
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11910456

I will do my best to become 世界で一番強い数学者 (the world's strongest mathematician).

>>11909848
based, I'm going to read up on this and elliptic integrals soon

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>>11910456
>I will do my best to become 世界で一番強い数学者 (the world's strongest mathematician).
そ です か

>> No.11910470

what are some good differential geometry textbooks?

>> No.11910472

>>11910470
What level? Tapp's is good for a quick introduction.

>> No.11910480

>>11910470
the existence of a good differential geometry book would imply that differential geometry is capable of being a good subject, which is a contradiction

>> No.11910482

>>11909909
Number Theory

>> No.11910483

>>11910470
do carmo
tu

>> No.11910491

If I want to prove that F is a function (equivalent class) in a Sobolev space H^k, all I need to do is show that F is finite with respect to the H^k norm, right?

>> No.11910493

>>11910483
>tu
What is this?

>>11910470
Besides Do Carmo's 2 books, I liked Theodor's Frankel: Geometry of Physics. It's covers everything in an adequate level of rigor. Physics is not necessary prerequisite.

>> No.11910494

>>11910491
Yes.

>> No.11910507

>>11910493
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=tu+differential+geometry&s=b

>> No.11910509

>>11909891
based

>> No.11910510

>>11910507
Based.

>> No.11910513

>>11910470
lee smooth manifolds and riemannian manifolds

>> No.11910514

>>11910507

I didn't realize it was a surname. I thought it was an acronym.

>> No.11910515

>>11910513
Don't like it. Too terse and dry. Not good for a beginner imho.

>> No.11910519

For which matrices is
[math] (Mu)^T\cdot v = v^T \cdot (Mu) [/math]
?

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I need a book with harder problems and solutions for linear algebra. Any recommendations?

>> No.11910536

>>11910532
Halmos

>> No.11910538

>>11910532
Proofs or computational?

>> No.11910555

>>11910470

http://www.topology.org/tex/conc/differential_geometry_books.html

http://www.topology.org/tex/conc/dg.html

>> No.11910574

Are there any explanations for why finite rings "lean" towards commutativity?
There's the classical example of finite division rings being full-on fields. There's also the thing with how if they have a one-sided identity they have a normal identity.

>> No.11910600

>>11910574
maybe there's just few finite rings or they spill over, in their finite characteristic, to the unit too easily

>> No.11910623

>>11910574
there are too few elements

>> No.11910646

>>11910480
why do you think it's a bad subject?

>> No.11910656

>>11910646
because I got pleb filtered

>> No.11910657

>>11910370
Underrated.

>> No.11910662

>>11910519
All matrices over a ring with commutative multiplication, assuming you have defined the dot product between a row and column vector without any messy operations like complex conjugates.

>> No.11910665

>>11910574
¿The billion different proofs of Wedderburn's Little Theorem don't do it for you?

>> No.11910677

Redpill me on complex multiplication.

>> No.11910679

>>11910677
it's a multiplication
of complex numbers

>> No.11910680

>>11910679
I really hope that's trolling.

>> No.11910681

>>11910662
thx, thought so

>> No.11910684

>>11910677
complex - it means not simple
multiplication - shit like three times four

>> No.11910687

>>11910680
of course it is, its just real multiplications with a funky square root somewhere there

>> No.11910705

>>11910677
When two complex numbers love each other very much, they look gently at each other and hold hands, and the end result is a beautiful baby complex number.
This is called complex multiplication.

>> No.11910708

>>11910705
>the end result is a beautiful baby complex number.
your sense of beauty is skewed

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11910709

Do retards on /mg/ really not know what complex multiplication is? Are there only highschoolers and undergrads here?

>> No.11910715

>>11910705
>>11910687
>>11910679
Wow anons youre all so funny! Any plans on becoming stand up comedians?

>> No.11910719

>>11910715
nah, physics not my thing

>> No.11910721

>>11910709
no one bothers to respond to low-quality dumb questions seriously
also, i'm pretty sure even highschoolers know complex numbers

>> No.11910730

>>11910709
I don't know what complex multiplication is, but I don't really give a shit about algebraic geometry.

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>>11910721
>>11910730
The absolute state.

>> No.11910739

>>11910709
Your question was dumb faggot. Learn to Google shit

>> No.11910756
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Hi mthematics generab!

I have a homework promleb from scjool and was wonderifn if you could helep me solve it?????

>pic related

>> No.11910764

>>11910721
Highschoolers are taught about complex numbers, but I wouldn't say they have any sort of meaningful intuition regarding them.

>> No.11910785

>>11910764
especially regarding elliptic curves

>> No.11910799

>>11910709
Its the induced multiplication on the quotient ring of R[x] / (x^2 + 1)
what answer were you expecting

>> No.11910802

>>11910709
Let a and b be complex numbers. Let c=ab. The magnitude of c with be the product of the magnitudes of a and b and the angle of c will be the sum of the angles of a and b.

>> No.11910803

>>11910799
I don't know, stuff about points and curves I guess

>> No.11910812

>>11910799
[math]\mathbb{R}[x]/\langle x^2+1\rangle \cong \mathbb{C}[/math]

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>>11910785
Based.

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>>11910735
A lot of people can criticize me for my tastes in fields, but not algebraic geometers, in particular algebraic geometer frogposters, go to hell.

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So nobody here actually knows anything about elliptic curves? Despite talking about it in literally every single thread?

>> No.11910825

>>11910819
what do you do that's so great then mr. fancy pants?

>> No.11910828
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11910828

Why don't you stop shitposting RIGHT NOW and solve this simple exercise:
[eqn]\int_0^{+\infty} sin(x^2) dx = ? [/eqn]

>> No.11910829

>>11910825
I fuck your mother.

>> No.11910831

>>11910824
Anything in particular you want to know?

>> No.11910833

>>11910831
Yes, complex multiplication. Recommend me books or stuff about it.

>> No.11910834

>>11910828
Sure thing bub.
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral%20of%20sin%28x%5E2%29%20from%200%20to%20infinity

>> No.11910838

>>11910834
beat me to it

>> No.11910840

>>11910828
[math]\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{8}}[/math]

>> No.11910843

>>11910834
>>11910838
The absolute state.

>> No.11910846

>>11910833
http://swc.math.arizona.edu/aws/1999/99RubinCM.pdf

>> No.11910848

>>11910843
why would I waste my time on something a machine can do for me?
Best quality of a mathematician is laziness

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>>11910846
Thanks fren

>> No.11910855
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>>11910848
>It is beneath the dignity of excellent men to waste their time in calculation when any peasant could do the work just as accurately with the aid of a machine.

>> No.11910856

>>11910848
just making sure you are an unskilled mathematician who couldn't solve it by hand ;)

>> No.11910861

>>11910856
integrals arent math

>> No.11910862

>>11910856
I can
No need to though

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>>11910843

>> No.11910872

>>11910861
sorry, wanted to post something easy, but i guess it's still too hard for you
maybe this problem will be more suited to your level:
123 + 456 = ?

>> No.11910877

>>11910828
[eqn] -\infty < \int_0^\infty \sin(x^2)dx<\infty [/eqn]

>> No.11910880

>>11910872
789

>> No.11910883

>>11910880
utterly based

>> No.11910884

>>11910872
>more suited to your level
>a literal calc baby

>> No.11910893

>>11910861
They are.
[math]\int _{-\infty} ^ {\infty} e^{-x^2}dx=\sqrt{\pi}[/math] is one of the coolest proofs in mathematics.

>> No.11910892

>>11910884
Couple weeks into calculus 1 now, doing well, already past the chain rule and beyond. Quotient rule was a joke. Product rule remains my specialty.

I ask my professor his thoughts on quantum mechanics and partial derivatives. He's impressed i know about the subject. We converse after class for some time, sharing mathematical insights; i can keep up. He tells me of great things ahead like series and laplacians. I tell him i already read about series on wikipedia. He is yet again impressed at my enthusiasm. What a joy it is to have your professor visibly brighten when he learns of your talents.

And now I sit here wondering what it must be like to be a brainlet, unable to engage your professor as an intellectual peer.

All of the deep conversations you people must miss out on because you aren't able to overcome the intellectual IQ barrier that stands in the way of your academic success... it's so sad.

My professor and I know each other on first name basis now, but i call him Dr. out of respect.

And yet here you brainlets sit, probably havent even made eye contact with yours out of fear that they will gauge your brainlet IQ levels.

A true shame, but just know it is because i was born special that i am special. I can't help being a genius, nor can my professor.

Two of a kind is two flocks in a bush.

>> No.11910899

>>11910880
Peak mental performance.
>>11910893
t. statiscian who's never seen a kino proof in his life.

>> No.11910902

>>11910892
Holy shit you stupid fucking undergrad. You do realize that calculus 1 is so fucking elementary even a child could learn it? In fact children do learn calculus because calculus is for idiot children. Undoubtedly you are taking some shit, remedial college class at a noname college - you think lemmas are a fucking fruit from Lord of the Rings (I'm doing quite well at a top 20 graduate programme and have passed all of my qual's with flying colours, so don't bullshit me).

Your professor does NOT want to talk with you snivelling child. He DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU. I'm sure he was holding back his laughter when you raised the topics and you may have just seen him rub his left arm after experiencing symptoms of an oncoming heart attack induced purely by the cringe of you skimming Wikipedia pages after jacking off to Brady on Numberphile.

You are not special and clearly will never make it past trivial proof courses before you 'drop out' and 'transition' to your preferred field of study - drooling, smooth brain comp. sci. Seen the same with your types dozens of times as a TA and it's always the same. Bright young kid with a big attitude from a small part of town moves to the big boy pond and can't cope. Horizons too narrow. Goes back to the baby pond with newfound superiority complex over the urchins and engineers that tremble in your mathematically superior presence.

Many. Such. Cases.

>> No.11910916

>>11910902
haha yess my pasta is back

>> No.11910931

>>11910799
The right one, about automorphisms of elliptic curves.

>> No.11910944

>cannot do basic integrals
>runs away into category theory or other bullshit gay field
why does this happen so often?

>> No.11910969

What is the exact relationship between function spaces L^infinity and L^p for p finite?

If f is in L^infinity it is in L^p right?
But doesn't the opposite also hold?

>> No.11910974

>>11910944
because integrals are useless, so they do something more worthwhile

>> No.11910980

>>11910969
I dunno anon, is [math]f(x) = 1[/math] in [math]L^p (\Omega)[/math] for an arbitrary domain [math]\Omega[/math]?

>> No.11910988

>>11910969
no relationship in general
if the measure is finite, then you can work out some inclusions

>> No.11911014

>>11910893
Which proof do you know?

>> No.11911020

>>11911014
The one that involves squaring the integrand and converting to polar coordinates.

>> No.11911134

>>11909891
Fucking hell, I wish I could cure my obsessive thinking.

>> No.11911142

>>11910899
>never seen a kino proof in his life.
not him, but please post kino proofs

>> No.11911152

The entirety of mathematics, but specifically Differential Equations and Dynamical Systems, concepts non-whites are utterly incapable of understanding hence the lack of technological ingenuity.
>>11909939
algebra and number theory are both white dominated historically, Jews have contributed more to analysis (Faustian) than any other field of math.

>> No.11911155

>>11911142
Mochis proof of abc

>> No.11911158

>>11911142
the proof of the classification of semi-simple Lie algebras.

>> No.11911171

>>11911155
brother, don't tell me you understand it

>> No.11911185

>didn't research PHY homework and just plugged shit on mathway and was done with it and proceeded to go program video games because that's more fun
>cramming because I have mid-terms in two days
>its literally just convoluted right triangles and three formulas which one is literally just adding the other two.
>got 100% on the midterm review

college and physics are a joke.

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>>11911171
Only the important parts

>> No.11911199

>>11911185
>on the midterm review
So, is this distinct from the midterm and you are presumably doing online examinations without a proctor correct? Two distinct questions, please answer both of them thanks.

>> No.11911239

>>11911199
I suppose the professor is not such a dick that will make a mid-term review that doesn't cover everything that the test will not cover.
Also, no, our college is paying for online proctors and I honestly don't want to risk it and cheat.
But the normal weekly quizzes and homework are not proctored.

>> No.11911286

>>11911189
I love her....

>> No.11911311

>>11911239
Wait until you take the exam before basking in your own intellectual supremacy. Feedback is important to update your model of your own abilities. This is freshman physics right? That shit is just a filter for non-majors and the innumerates. Wait until, presuming you're going into physics, you get to the upper division courses.

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>decent at writing proofs and dealing with objects in the abstract
>fall apart or fuck up whenever presented with a computational problem
How do I remedy this?

>> No.11911316

>>11911311
how hard can it be? lol.

can't wait to see how I pass the next two PHY classes and get these ez A's and never ever having to take PHY again.

>> No.11911319

>>11911316
Significantly harder than anything you will see in freshman physics by an order of magnitude. Since you aren't going to be taking more classes beyond your gen ed requirements you won't have to worry about that.

>> No.11911325

>>11911313
>>fall apart or fuck up whenever presented with a computational problem
Literraly how? Is it low working memory and you just forget shit, or is your handwriting just that bad? Whichever of those that is your problem, just fix that

>> No.11911328

>>11911313
Same, but I'm in undergrad, so not confident enough to say I'm decent at proving.
I think I just hate solving computational problems so much that I never gave it the time, maybe that's your case too?

>> No.11911337

>>11909909
Chinks own applied maths. Whitey dominates the rest. 100% that's going to change in a few decades as western schooling focuses on framing every subject as the oppression Olympics whilst eastern schooling leaves its part loyalty shit to history and civics.

>> No.11911343

>>11911313
give an example of a computational problem you cant do

>> No.11911346

>>11911337
So doing phd in china with focus on applied math is a good idea?

>> No.11911349

>>11911343
>>11910828

>> No.11911350

>>11911325
Guarantee its bad working memory as that seems vital to computational tasks and would explain why asians excel at these things so effortlessly. See also >>11911337 though they don't "own applied maths" they're just unusually good at it.

>> No.11911357

Does anybody know something about the SISSA PhD school (Trieste, Italy)?

What do you think of it? Is it a good place to pursue a PhD? (Pure maths)

>> No.11911359

>>11911349
Have you tried copying the trick used for [math]\exp(-x^2)[/math]?
Because I'm pretty sure you either do that or you exploit what [math]z^2[/math] looks line in polar coordinates with Cauchy-Goursat.

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>Frobenii

>> No.11911386

>>11911343
Show that [math]17\cdot7=119[/math] without performing any multiplications

>> No.11911388

>>11911384
post 10 examples where this happened

>> No.11911389

>>11911386
17+17+17+17+17+17+17=119

>> No.11911390

>>11911389
A brilliant trick!

>> No.11911391

>>11911389
Shit he's fast.

>> No.11911393

>>11911389
but that is by definition, multiplication

>> No.11911397

Can someone enlighten me please.
the question is:
>A cubic box with an edge of exactly 2cm has a volume of (in meters)
So what I did was (2cm)^3 = 8cm^3 and then converted to meters so my answer was 8x10^-6 m^3.
How was it wrong and why is the answer 2x10^-6 m^3?
Am I low IQ?

>> No.11911400

>>11911393
Is it, though?

>> No.11911403

>>11910828
How bad should I feel about myself for not being able to solve this on my own

>> No.11911411

>>11911403
depends.
high school: not bad
freshman: not that bad
anything after freshman: bad
you have a degree: get the vodka out

>> No.11911414

[math]17\cdot 7=(12+5)(12-5)=12^2-5^2=144-25=119[/math], using the well-known results from the literature, that [math]12^2=144,5^2=25[/math], and [math]a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b)[/math].

>> No.11911419

>>11911386
divide both sides by 7

>> No.11911421

>>11911414
how is that computational?

>> No.11911425

>>11911411
Should I be able to solve this after calculus?

>> No.11911427

>>11911403
its an integral, you shouldnt even care about it to begin with

>> No.11911434
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>Textbook uses both [math]\xi[/math] and [math]\zeta[/math] for indices

>> No.11911445

>>11911425
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_integral

>> No.11911454
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>>11911427
The classic "I will vehemently insist that everything I suck at doesn't matter anyway" cope

>> No.11911457

>>11911454
kiss my wolfram link, you filthy undergrad

>> No.11911461

>>11909838
>Dynkin Edition
How can F4 be 52-dimensional yet have rank 4?

>> No.11911466

>>11911454
Refer to >>11910855. The person who developed integration even agrees that it's a waste of time to be done by humans.

>> No.11911471

>>11911461
Please go read the definition of "rank"
then go read the definition of "dimension"
after you do those two things, the answer will be clear

>> No.11911476

>>11911471
Based.

>> No.11911480

>>11911466
Integration was just infidel mathematicians making twofold mistakes that arrived at the truth until long after Leibniz died.

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>>11911466
>The person who developed integration even agrees that it's a waste of time to be done by humans.
And the person who developed modern algebraic geometry said that his work was an abomination and that all copies of it should be destroyed. What's your point?

>> No.11911485

>>11911481
I hope you're not implying that Grothendieck was wrong.

>> No.11911488
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>>11911481
And he was right.

>> No.11911495

>>11911471
>Please go read the definition of "rank"
What is Cartan subgroup? What is transcendence degree?

>> No.11911499

>>11911495
read.
the.
definitions.

>> No.11911502

>>11911346
Absolutely not - all the best Chinese academics wind up in the US.

>> No.11911505

>>11910388
He said simplify it, not move it into a different field of mathematics.

>> No.11911506

>>11911502
Most of the mediocre ones end up in the USA too. Mainland China is a dystopian hellhole, anyone with any ability to do so escapes as soon as they can.

>> No.11911507

>>11911499
>read.
>the.
>definitions.

>In mathematics, a Cartan subalgebra, often abbreviated as CSA, is a nilpotent subalgebra {\displaystyle {\mathfrak {h}}}{\mathfrak {h}} of a Lie algebra {\displaystyle {\mathfrak {g}}}{\mathfrak {g}} that is self-normalising...

ELI5?

>> No.11911514

>>11911507
Why do you find it confusing that a Lie group can have more than one property? Rank and dimension are different things. I don't understand why this would confuse you. It's like asking how a box can have width 4 yet volume 64.

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>>11911397
pls tell me if im retraded

>> No.11911527

>>11911506
I have met one person who wanted to go back to China. She was not born there and has only visited. While tutoring her in trigonometry over the summer, she explained to me that she preferred the way people were there and the way the culture and country is. She especially liked the social credit system, which lets people move beyond their class. She then told me about how elites have figured out how to abuse the social credit system to their benefit, which holds other people back. She then asked me if I knew of an indoor water park nearby. I asked her why it had to be indoor, and she told me it was because there are so many top-level performers vying for jobs in China that they decide who gets better positions based on things like beauty standards. Since darker skin is viewed as less attractive, she didn't want to have her skin any darker than it already was. She then told me about how she wished she lived in a community with an HOA so she could get the people who wouldn't mow frequently evicted from next to her.

Maybe it's just my white culture and attitude coming through, but nothing she said sounded good to me.

>> No.11911529

>>11911521
>>>/sci/sqt
>>>/wsr/

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11911532

I came to tell lyou you are nice!!

>>11911397
The ansrrer tself is wrong.

>> No.11911535

>>11911532
Thanks, lad.

>> No.11911536

>>11911397
>>11911521
cm to m is itself a conversion factor. You have to cube the conversion factor, not just the magnitude.

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11911541

>>11911527
>an actual bug person

>> No.11911626

>>11909891
nigger

>> No.11911635

>>11909891
Sneed

>> No.11911666

>>11911532
>>11911536
>>11911529
thx I was eating my head because everywhere I searched online said I was correct.

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>>11911666
BEHOLD
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cube+with+side+2+cm%2C+what+is+its+volume+in+meters%3F

>> No.11911769

>>11911731
Is there any computational problem Wolfram can't do?

>> No.11911823

>>11910470
Godinho-Natario is basically doCarmo's but better.

>> No.11911845

>>11911823
how does it compare to Lee's book on Riemannian Geometry?

>> No.11911859

>>11911845
it's a meme

>> No.11911865

Based or cringe?

http://www.topology.org/tex/conc/mathlearn.html

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>>11911865

>> No.11911880

>>11911845
I haven't checked Lee but from reading its table of contents on Springer I'd say it's different. Natario starts out with smooth manifolds and it adds structure as it advances, and it's not completely focused on Riemannian manifolds since you don't need a metric to define connections for example.

>> No.11911923

>>11911865
500 Pages for foundations
pretty based

>> No.11912054

>>11909891
epic

>> No.11912062

>>11911865
V cringe because of this:
Louis Auslander, Robert Earl MacKenzie
Introduction to differentiable manifolds
1963
ISBN 978-0-486-47172-3
224 pages = 106 A4 pages
My review.
My Amazon review.
This book shows how differential geometry was starting to be overtaken by an unfortunate trend towards algebraic abstraction in the 1960s, which has continued to pervade DG until the present time. They present germs on pages 10–15 and 39–42, which is a pointless abstraction of differentiation that attempts to pretend that differentiation is a topic in algebra. In many other ways, this is an unpleasant book, in too many ways to mention. Chapter 3 on Projective spaces and projective algebraic varieties is particularly pointless and painful. This book shows clearly the way DG was splitting into two subjects, the more abstract algebraic/topological pure mathematical approach (concerned with global topology) and the more applications-oriented approach (concerned with physics and engineering). The one thing I really like about this book is the fibre bundle chapter, which helps to explain how the modern incomprehensible fibre bundle concepts came into being. The last chapter on tensors and multilinear algebra seems to be disconnected from the rest of the book.

>> No.11912091

>>11912062
This book is unusually clear and neat, although it is oriented towards pure mathematical geometric objectives rather than anything useful.
Like cmon bro that's the good stuff

>> No.11912135

>>11912062
>hates algebrafags
I recall seeing this a few months ago, and in spite of the fact that his thoughts on this matter are indeed based and hygienic I was asking what you thought about his bizarre note taking prescription. I can’t imagine doing what he suggests is in any way efficient, his praise for rote learning is also quite alarming to me.

>> No.11912162

>>11912135
The idea in principle is good, "practice what you don't understand, not what is already clear". That being said, I think lines 3-5 are a little overboard, I can learn fine by reading, thanks, and line 8 is just stupid. Quite often reading a little further on will help clear up an issue from earlier.

>> No.11912241

Why do we care about Bernoulli numbers?

>> No.11912286
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/gmmg/

>>11911532
Phew, I remembered posting here but it wasn't worse than this.

>>11911357
>What do you think of it? Is it a good place to pursue a PhD? (Pure maths)
What do you want to work on? Does it have a big name in that field? Should the answer to the second question be "si", does this big name take students? If again "si", then go for it.

>> No.11912290

>>11912286
Morning, lad.

>> No.11912293

>>11912290
Based lad poster. I hope you have a good day or night depending on your time zone. Working on anything cool?

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>>11912293
Just finished my algebra homework. Probably going to sleep soon.

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>>11912296
What did you have to do?

>> No.11912313

>>11912302
Mostly field/Galois theory related stuff.

>> No.11912320

>>11912062
>>This book shows how differential geometry was starting to be overtaken by an unfortunate trend towards algebraic abstraction in the 1960s, which has continued to pervade DG until the present time. They present germs on pages 10–15 and 39–42, which is a pointless abstraction of differentiation that attempts to pretend that differentiation is a topic in algebra.
Holy based.

>> No.11912326

>>11909893
Either that last paragraph is a gateway in to the thinking of a genius or you need to puncuate it more.

>> No.11912327

>>11912313
Gotcha. Sleep tight!

>> No.11912545

>>11909891
kek, the quality of /mg/ just keeps improving

>> No.11912596

Does anyone know if there is a text or book which summarize what is known about [math]Gal(\bar{\mathbb{Q}} /\mathbb{Q}) [/math]?

>> No.11912691

>>11912596
it's a group

>> No.11912694

>>11912062
>This book shows how differential geometry was starting to be overtaken by an unfortunate trend towards algebraic abstraction in the 1960s, which has continued to pervade DG until the present time. They present germs on pages 10–15 and 39–42, which is a pointless abstraction of differentiation that attempts to pretend that differentiation is a topic in algebra
He's completely right about this.

>> No.11912723

>>11912694
he's a brainlet for rejecting a different approach without any particular reason
>every generic smooth map from a surface into R looks like a projection, a fold, or a cusp in a suitable coordinate system
a lot of stuff like that is proved by module theory applied to the ring of germs

>> No.11912728

>>11911769
There isn't.

>> No.11912753

I wish we could ban all undergrads from posting here.

>> No.11912774

>>11912753
that would leave only highschoolers posting in /mg/

>> No.11912780

>>11912728
Two hours of computation have been deposited into your Wolfram account.

>> No.11912782

>>11912596
Absolutely not.

>> No.11912815

linear algebra book for code monkeying 'computer scientist' that wants to get into machine learning research?

>> No.11912827
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11912827

>numerical analysis

>> No.11912831

>>11909891
fk u

>> No.11912858

>>11911769
It can't do integrals.
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+1%2F(sqrt(1-x^2)+sqrt(1-y^2)+sqrt(1-(x%2By)^2))%2C+{x%2C+-1%2C+1}%2C+{y%2C+-x%2C+1}

>> No.11912873

>>11912780
BASED Wolfram rewarding me GENEROUSLY for saying the TRUTH.
>>11912858
Did you Try again with pro computation time?

>> No.11912886

>>11911769
Innumerably many.

>> No.11912912

When you want to prove that [math]d[/math] is a metric, either it's trivial, [math]d(x, y) \neq 0[/math] if [math]x \neq y[/math] is a pain in the ass, or the triangle inequality is a pain in the ass, (I don't think I've ever seen a case where both of the last two are simultaneously hard, since if proving the non-zero thing is hard the definition usually involves some sort of suprema or infima, and this makes triangle easy).
Have any of you ever seen a metric where proving reflexivity is actually the hardest part?

>> No.11912929

>>11910872
456 + 123
addition is commutative.

>> No.11912955

>>11912912
reflexivity is usually very obvious and the definitions of metrics are almost always symmetric
the only exception i know is levy-prokhorov metric

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11913023

What are /mg/'s favorite examples of combinatorial arguments in calculus/topology?

I'll give two examples to get you going:
1.) The Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem is easily proved by iteratively applying the pigeonhole principle (a Ramsey-style argument).
2.) There's a lovely combinatorial proof of Brouwer's fixed point theorem that's based on Sperner's lemma (actually the two are equivalent).

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11913030

Did you know that the German formalism/intuitionism dispute was racially loaded? Many advocates of intuitionism were nazis who detested modern math for being "too jewish". For example Brouwer who presented himself as a "champion of aryan germanness" complained that "Ostjuden" were writing for Mathematische Annalen. Bieberbach viewed modern algebra, set theory and others as way too abstract "franco-jewish" inferior math fields and advocated a more "aryan" type of math that doesn't rely so heavily on axiomatics like formalism

>> No.11913067

>>11913023
https://www.impan.pl/~tkoch/COMB_lecturenotes/cbst_lecture_6.pdf

>> No.11913163

>>11911769
At the very least the Halting Problem, and any problem that it can be reduced to.

>> No.11913186

>>11913163
that's not computational though

>> No.11913191

>>11913186
>In computability theory, the halting problem is...

>> No.11913194

>>11913186
"find if any program halts" not "find a procedure to find if any program halts"

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>>11913191
>words cannot have multiple meanings

>> No.11913196

>>11909891
lmfao

>> No.11913198

>>11913194
and? Still not computational.

>> No.11913201

>>11913198
how is it not computational

Here is a turing machine: does it halt

>> No.11913203

>>11913201
It's as computational as saying
Here is a theorem: is it true

>> No.11913216

>>11913203
well speaking of, you probably couldn't feed wolfram alpha something like "here is a formal proof of something, is the derivation valid," but I've never tried

>> No.11913249

>>11909901
No, consider
X -> X + YX^2
Y -> Y

>> No.11913293

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes%27s_cattle_problem

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11913312

>>11909920
*stares in Al-Khwarizmi*

>> No.11913323

>>11913312
Wrong kind of algebra.

>> No.11913356

What is better: a very young advisor that comes from a postdoc with a Fields medallist or an older advisor who solved a conjecture when he was young and won some prizes?

>> No.11913368

>>11913356
I had a young supervisor for my masters thesis and he was pretty shit at it, but he didnt have that good a background anyway

>> No.11913369

>>11913356
The latter.

>> No.11913375

>>11913356
The latter all the way.
The latter is easy mode, the former is hard mode.

>> No.11913398

>>11913356
Always the older guy.
Young advisors are generally bad at advising; they have no practice actually advising people (it's hard, and it takes time to git gud), they don't know the field as well as somebody with 30 years of professorship in it, and most importantly they're far too busy furiously trying to advance their own fledgling careers to care much about yours.
There's also the issue that young profs almost never have enough clout to really help you out when you need connections, e.g. at job-hunting time. "Postdoc with a Fields medalist" isn't enough to carry that, it's not nearly as incredible as you seem to be implying it is unless he set himself up for the next batch of Fields medals during that postdoc.

>> No.11913399

>>11913203
>It's as computational as saying
>Here is a theorem: is it true
This is a computational problem though.
What is your point LMAO?

>> No.11913406

>>11910227
thanks anon, was about to ask

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>>11913203
There is no problem in this world that is not ultimately computational.
If you have a counter-example, I'm all ears.
If it's pic related (or something similar), you are a retard, though.

>> No.11913449

>>11911142
https://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0403046v1.pdf

>> No.11913451

>>11913398
>>11913368
>>11913369
>>11913375

the young guy seems very strong but I guess he is not Fields medal level himself (who knows though).

In general, one should always choose the older advisor then? (given he is not bad)
Is there any special case where one would be advised to choose the younger one?

>> No.11913464

>>11913451
>Is there any special case where one would be advised to choose the younger one?
If it's Abel or Galois.

>> No.11913477

>>11913451
The younger guy is more likely to post here.
He could also be physically attractive, if you like men.

>> No.11913483

Hilbert's hat.

>> No.11913499

>>11913483
Is a Panama hat.

>> No.11913504

>>11913451
>Is there any special case where one would be advised to choose the younger one?
Of course there are endless special justifications you can make if you feel like it. Maybe the older guy is a sociopathic asshole. Maybe the younger guy is Peter Scholze. Maybe the younger guy is at Princeton and the older guy is at Wyoming State.
There are endless exceptions to any rule that general, but I don't know your exact life situation and I don't care to. It's up to you if you feel like you're in an exceptional case.

>> No.11913506

>>11913477
>He could also be physically attractive, if you like men.
But older men are more attractive than middle aged men in many cases. It's sort of like the second puberty. Or that is my opinion, maybe someone finds it to be the other way around.

>> No.11913510

>>11913504
Wyoming State > Princeton

>> No.11913527

>>11912723
Seethe.
>>11912815
>>11912827
>>11913023
>>11913163
>>11913186
>>11913191
>>11913194
>>11913195
>>11913198
>>11913201
>>11913203
>>11913399
>>11913431
>>>/g/ >>>/out/ you stick out like sore thumbs, you will never be mathematicians, get out.

>> No.11913533

>>11913527
how are my posts /g/ you fucking retard?

>> No.11913544

>>11913533
off-topic posting is not allowed on /sci/, please respect the rules or go back to where you came from.

>> No.11913546

>>11913527
Based.

>> No.11913548

>>11913527
Consider taking your meds.

>> No.11913550

>>11913544
computational problems are math you mouthbreathing retard.

>> No.11913552

>>11913431
>There is no problem in this world that is not ultimately computational.
"What are the fundamental laws guiding reality"

>> No.11913561

>>11913550
No they aren’t, and you are not and never will be a mathematician :^)

Seethe more

>> No.11913564

>>11913561
>integrals aren't math
>(co)homology groups aren't math
>homotopy isn't math
>geometry isn't math

>> No.11913569

>>11913561
>No they aren’t
The problem to derive a proof for a theorem is *literally* a computational problem.
There are *literally* computer programs which *literally* compute proofs.

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>>11913564

>> No.11913575

>>11913571
Name a single thing which is math.

>> No.11913578

>>11913569
>implying checking is computing

>> No.11913580

>>11913575
The proofs in his freshman courses

>> No.11913587

>>11913578
Are you on drugs? Or just a retarded undergrad with a superiority complex?
What you say is nonsensical.

>>11913580
Proofs *are* a computational problem.

>> No.11913596

>>11913575
Ramsey theory

>> No.11913598

>>11913580
shouldnt it be "prooves"

>> No.11913600

>>11913587
>redefining math so that CS is a superset over math in order to weasel your way into mathematics
Really makes you think

>> No.11913609

>>11913596
Without a doubt questions in Ramsey theory can be brought down to computation.
As, again, proofs are a computational problem.

Also, you are an idiot, Ramsey theory is closely related to combinatorics, which is one of the areas where computational proof assistants are quite involved (see e.g. the four color theorem with its proof). At least say something like functional analysis where it isn't immediately obvious that you are wrong, although you still are...

Also, I highly doubt you know what "Ramesy theory" is, since you appear to be a retarded undergrad...

>> No.11913613

>>11913600
>weasel your way into mathematics
I do Analysis and a bit of geometry. I have little interest in anything people in CS do, which doesn't make facts suddenly not true...

>> No.11913615

What is hat of mathematicians?

>> No.11913627

>>11913615
\land

>> No.11913672

>>11913615
[math]\land[/math] and Hilbert's hat.

>> No.11913685

>>11913600
CS is a subset of math, though.

>> No.11913696

>>11913578
It literally is.
Most NP-hard problems arise from having to explicitly check too many fucking possible solutions.

>> No.11913698

what sort of paper should i use for math homework?

>> No.11913701

>>11913698
i use white a4 paper

>> No.11913706

>>11913701
the only correct answer
doing math on lined paper is pig disgusting

>> No.11913708

>>11913698
Lined notebook paper (8.5 x 11)

>> No.11913719

>>11913609
>Without a doubt questions in Ramsey theory can be brought down to computation.
Erdos would disagree and use you as a meat shield against the aliens

>> No.11913725

>>11913698
[math]\LaTeX[/math]

>> No.11913747

>>11913719
Will we ever compute [math]R(6,6)[/math], bros?

>> No.11913761

>>11913719
>>11913747
I am a little disappointed we still don't know what R(5,5) is, honestly. I feel like R(5,5) is probably a feasible goal if people actually cared (it's honestly one of the only few left that's a small enough range of small enough numbers to be feasible). When Erdos talked about it he seemed to think it was at least in theory plausible if you threw the entire planet's resources at it, and that was in 1990. The problem's been inched forward a bit since then, and our computing resources nowadays make the global arsenal from 1990 look like a Gameboy.
I guess it's just that computing numbers just for the sake of knowing what they are is Numberphile-tier stuff that people don't generally put too much effort into.

>> No.11913774
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I have some data that looks suspiciously circular when I use a logarithmic scale for the y-axis. Its density seems to be a reciprocal squared function from the center, and all data is in the first quadrant (+,+). There is a little extra compression between the y-axis and the center of "mass", but not enough to concern me if that kind of function/distribution is a lot more complicated.

What kind of standard or general form would this be? Is there a special type of distribution already documented for what I'm describing? I'm not deeply versed in statistics, and my math is certainly rusty.

>> No.11913783

>>11913774
That picture would be a sufficient proof for a category theorist.

>> No.11913785

>>11913761
Well, we know [math]R(5,5) \in [43,48][/math], so it's only a matter of time.

>> No.11913788

>>11913783
Yeah, but it would't put bread on my table :/

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Anyone know what the underlined module is supposed to represent? M is a module over a ring here, and the x_i are elements of the ring

>> No.11913800

>>11913774
One more thing:
I wanted to create a boundary line at a certain density to distinguish the enclosed area of arbitrary high density, and everything else outside. Bonus points if you can define a "ring" of density ranging from density-A to density-B.

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>>11913774
>>11913800
I threw this together in a couple minutes. Not familiar with the interface to make an axis logarithmic, but my inner-brainlet tells me it would be something akin to this:
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/pnhiy1b8z2

>> No.11913861

>>11913796
Can you give any context?

>> No.11913917

>>11913747
>>11913761
i browsed some surveys on ramsey numbers recently, here's a curious fact: the lower bound on R(6, 6) is 50 years old

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[math]R(3,3,3)=17[/math]

>> No.11914027

>>11913929
speaking of other autistic computations, here's one i find interesting: number of posets on n elements, this has only been done up to n<=16 or something
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_topological_space#Number_of_topologies_on_a_finite_set

i'd like to find something obscure enough and compute some funny number myself

>> No.11914039

>>11914027
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_topological_space#Number_of_topologies_on_a_finite_set
That blows up fast.

>> No.11914091

>>11914027
This one is interesting to me in a different way. One one hand the individual cases are less interesting, because they're just fucking huge; it's somehow much less satisfying to say "the answer is [bangs on number pad for 30 seconds]" than it is to say "the answer is 43"
On the other hand "the number of posets on an n-set" seems like an innocuous combinatorial thing that looks at first glance reasonably like it could have a generating function or at least a recurrence or SOME way of getting at it, yet it doesn't have anything at all.
Whereas he Ramsey numbers are one of those things where it's completely unreasonable to expect to be able to say anything useful about the general numbers, in fact (hot take incoming) it's probably more reasonable to expect somebody will prove some undecidability result about them.

>> No.11914160

Is it common for you to also start doubting a theorem you already know the proof of and having to rework it to yourself? I feel like this is influence of this internet skepticism making me doubt everything

>> No.11914167

>>11913929

now what's the algebraic interpretation of this picture

>> No.11914192

>>11914167
spirograph 2.0

>> No.11914280

>>11913564
Correct on all accounts.