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STEM University Opinions - UNITED KINGDOM Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:58:34 2020 No.11875114 [Reply] [Original]

Lets talk about your opinions on the top STEM unis in the UK:

University of Oxford > cool on paper only
University of St Andrews > Nobody will remember where you got your degree from
University of Cambridge > Has a nice Library, dream academic student life.
Durham University > looks nice, thats it. Nobody's first choice
University of Birmingham > Do people chose to go here?
University of Southampton > very big brain chioce, top ECS
Imperial College London > sperg world, but im applying
University of Warwick > poor taste, extremely ugly
University of Manchester > Brian Cocks!!!11!1!
Lancaster University > why is this on the charts... who?
UCL (University College London) > not the strand polytechnic
University of Glasgow > too cold, dump
University of Bath > nice logo, wish it wasn't so sporty
University of Nottingham > brainlet land
University of Leeds > don't get the appeal
University of Bristol > for stem you can do better

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:07:26 2020 No.11875154 >>11875114 maths -> cambridge/oxford/warwick/imperial engineering -> imperial/southampton rest are trash

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:10:11 2020 No.11875173 >>11875114 Durhams great for chemistry. I'm studying there tho so biased opinion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:26:40 2020 No.11875219 >>11875154 correct

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:06:28 2020 No.11876397 Is king's any good? I've just applied to transfer there from my C-tier university

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 04:53:08 2020 No.11876584 >>11876397 >the strand polytechnic not the best for stem, they only started offering EE a couple years ago. their physics course is very theoretical. what course are you doing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:43:45 2020 No.11876667 >>11875173 but are you an oxbridge reject?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:53:12 2020 No.11876686 >>11875114 What's the best for CS post-grad??

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:09:46 2020 No.11876713 >>11876686 Cambridge Oxford Imperial obviously, the league tables are really messy. Depending on the modules you want specialisation in choses where you go. there are other options too.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:46:40 2020 No.11876770

>>11875114
almost none of this matters at all assuming you get rejected from oxbridge (and maybe imperial). to me it looks like youre viewing it through some weird 17 or 18yos lens where you make these arbitrary judgements to try to narrow down a huge list. if i were you id be looking at: where are your mates going if you have any, do you care about rent, do you like the look of the place (streetview is good for this), do you want to live in a city or on campus, is there actually a specific area of your subject you want to study that some unis dont offer etc. no one really gives a fuck whether you went to birmingham or bristol and the quality of education is really unlikely to be that much different at undergraduate level. ive been to a high-ranking and low-ranking russell group and its just the same shit in all but name

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:45:14 2020 No.11876847 >>11876584 Physics, but I get the point. Thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:00:34 2020 No.11876883 >tfw I study maths at cambridge the uk is a shithole and I hope it gets nuked the instant I finish my degree you should go literally anywhere else in the world

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:14:23 2020 No.11876910 >>11875114 I went to southampton It was pretty good I'd say, although the town is a bit of a shithole so make sure that's your thing before you commit

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:18:38 2020 No.11876923

>>11876770
True but soton for example has an ECS department that rivals imperial for research and teaching. True it may not matter much at undergrad but its the experience. You will also have some cool industry links.

>>11876847
For the same entry requirements there are better places to stuy. If you like the location then fine, but UCL will be a little harder but also in london.

KCL was never a scientific uni.

if you want to go out of london, you can consider many other palces.

KCl wont be that bad, but you'll probably need more than just that degree to be comftorable since its so theoretical you might as well just do maths.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:19:44 2020 No.11876927

>>11876770
>ive been to a high-ranking and low-ranking russell group and its just the same shit in all but name
Yeah you get the prestige with oxbridge (although I don't know how much employers even care about that), but for everything else it's more or less the same at undergrad.
Another thing to look for is what types of courses are available, whether there are integrated masters offered at some unis and not others (which could be a big difference financially), whether there are options to do placements as part of your degree or if you need to take extra time out to do them, that kind of thing.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:20:39 2020 No.11876928

>>11876910
Agreed. The city is an absolute dump, luckily the uni is decent and ECS facilities and department is very good.

I like brutalist architecture so I thought i'd like the city, turns out it gets old and you notice all the weird uneducated locals and poverty.

For the architecture I'll visit the Barbican and The National Archives in London.

what did you study?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:21:07 2020 No.11876929 >>11875114 Faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:22:03 2020 No.11876932 >>11876929 brainlet >>/v/

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:28:15 2020 No.11876943

>>11876928
>what did you study
Chemistry
Not as high on the league tables as ECS, but it was a pretty good department overall, and they've got a lot of research going for them. Plenty of lab time ect., and afaik they've been doing up the teaching labs recently so it could be better than when I was there (although they were pretty nice already)

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:29:38 2020 No.11876949

>>11876923
Well yeah I wanted to go to UCL or Imperial but unfortunately I'm underqualified for those because teenage me was an idiot. Anyways, surely King's is still better than some no name university I'm at? King's at least has some reputation behind their name, even if it's not in the field I am going for right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:34:50 2020 No.11876965 >>11876847 Now if you went to KCL to do medicine, that would be pretty good.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:41:04 2020 No.11876980

>>11876949
I don't know too much about physics, my research was done on ECS and EEE. But from what I picked up, at Undergrad no it may not matter, the teaching could be better though. Not bad.

KCL Physics might be okay, if you really like the theoretical side of physics. You could use a Bsc Physics from kings to get into a better grad school for post grad provided you do well.

But a Bsc Physics from KCL might not get you far career wise. If you think you'll probably do a masters somewhere else then its not bad. Even masters there might not be bad if you like the theory and want to work in academia, finance or maths stuff.

but if you like the science, then you'll benefit from a more sciency uni. Its upto you. It has. a falling reputation. and KCL is best at Medicine and similar and humanties i think.... Its your choice. Career wise you probably could do better. but its not that different if you just stay there. Just make you you do well and can do better post grad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:25:54 2020 No.11878690 >>11876943 Nice to hear that about soton. I will be starting my degree there in Sep

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:34:39 2020 No.11878861 The big thing about Oxbridge is the network you get by going there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:51:12 2020 No.11878918 >>11878861 Kinda wish I was there. You think Imperial will get you some similar networks? Im aiming to do post grad there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:58:24 2020 No.11878939 >>11876667 Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 19:05:34 2020 No.11878960 >>11876397 >C-tier university Which?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 19:07:34 2020 No.11878967 >>11875114 Is Birkbeck's philosophy department really as good as they say it is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 19:14:41 2020 No.11878983 File: 30 KB, 960x960, 1560802247563.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875114 >Polytechnic of Central London and the Royal Polytechnic Institution – Regent Street

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 19:28:58 2020 No.11879035 >>11878967 not sure if youre asking the right audience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 19:49:57 2020 No.11879077 >>11875114 Focus on Oxbridge and Imperial for STEM. IIRC, you have to choose between Oxford and Cambridge when applying through UCAS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:01:32 2020 No.11879865 >>11878918 I have the same question. Can someone answer this please?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 02:31:22 2020 No.11880042 >>11878960 You don't want to know

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:06:30 2020 No.11880087 File: 1010 KB, 1440x1440, 1589629603311.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11880042 Please

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:13:31 2020 No.11880097 File: 46 KB, 654x527, 6441018_preview.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11880087 Fine it's University of... Liverpool

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:24:01 2020 No.11880118 >>11880097 dont cry, young one. its great you have ambition. physics is not an easy degree

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:27:26 2020 No.11880122 >>11876847 soton has similar entry requirements and I think has. a much better course than KCL or Liverpoo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:07:50 2020 No.11880212 >>11875114 University of Plymouth is absolutely fantastic at maritime stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:26:40 2020 No.11880261 >>11878918 >You think Imperial will get you some similar networks? I think it does, yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:35:02 2020 No.11880284 >>11875114 Trent Nottingham is the place to go if you wanna enjoy your student life. Literally the party uni.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:44:48 2020 No.11880308 >>11880261 After my EEE degree provided I get a first, I plan to apply for Petroleum Eng at Imperial. I need to do more research on if its worth it, because I have a feeling it isn't

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:45:53 2020 No.11880310 >>11880284 and have no career prospects.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:47:37 2020 No.11880315 >>11880310 Yeah it is bad for STEM. But not for business and finance related subjects.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:52:02 2020 No.11880328 >>11880315 why go nottingham trent if nottingham exists. partying? if its the best you can do then good luck, do try hard to get a first though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:59:29 2020 No.11880344 File: 2.93 MB, 368x368, 1587411555947.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11880097 Liverpool is alright though, isnt it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:00:33 2020 No.11880349 >>11880097 Edward Snowden went there Im >>11880344

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:02:33 2020 No.11880356 >>11880097 Okay I checked, there's literally nothing wrong with Uni of Liverpool, are you retared?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:04:56 2020 No.11880365 >>11880284 >It was also ranked number 12 in the UK by the Guardian in 2020, and 600 globally by the QS World University Rankings 2013. How does that make any sense

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:24:47 2020 No.11880392

>>11880356
>>11880344
what did you check hahaha? you can't check and declare now THERE IS NOTHING WRONG.

its not like it has problems, just not the best specifically for the subject in that entry requirements range, though I know its best practice to just make the most of where you study at undergrad, its not the most important, you can go somewhere else later or change now if you want but it's not worth stressing, Liverpool has some reputation at least.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:27:56 2020 No.11880399

>>11880365
dont listen to those rankings, for uk, i think the CUG guide is best , for subjects and even then you must take into account the repuations and history of each subject. Like in the EEE rankings in uk on CUG, I think Bath has a much lower ranking than it deserves. I would think Bath is almost up there with Soton in top five, Bath has good courses for IMEE. The global rankings are only a rough estimate for the top unis, so top 50-100 theres too many its hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:30:34 2020 No.11880403 >>11880399 Based. UK rankings always seem skewed and make no sense. Its bullshit

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:53:28 2020 No.11880544

>>11880392
Yea my main problem with it is how the lecture material is taught. I very much disliked that, and the pace was way too slow as well, so I ended up selfteaching most of the modules. I did one semester of engineering there though and that was much better than physics, can't complain about that. Also it doesn't help that the city itself sucks, with the only attraction being football and booze. And you can imagine what kind of people that attracts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:23:44 2020 No.11880587 >>11880544 >tfw the university of liverpool ran an ad campaign centered around the football club and Salah t. Egyptian

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:31:08 2020 No.11880601

>>11880544
Unfortunately Southampton has a similar culture. football and drinking. However I have found some decent people from the uni, but none from the city. I still enjoy it though, the societies are good. I plan to study in london or oxbridge if I can manage post grad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:32:10 2020 No.11880603 >>11880587 is this good or bad? I only know that Salah is popular, nothing more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:33:15 2020 No.11880604 >>11880601 bike theft in Southampton is as rampant as it is in central london.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:10:38 2020 No.11880654 >>11880601 Godspeed anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:15:20 2020 No.11880659 >>11880601 Now that I've looked as Southampton it seems fairly nice, but it's way past the deadline for transfers so I'm not even going to try. Oh well, maybe in postgrad. I'll see where I land in a couple of years

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:17:07 2020 No.11880663 >>11880587 If drinking was accepted in your culture they would've bombarded you with Guiness collabs as well

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:36:48 2020 No.11880697

>>11880328
I don't go to Trent Nottingham. My friends do. I stayed there for a few days with a friend. All you do is have fun over there. Hell I'm not even that good looking but I managed to become good friends with and fuck a 10/10 girl. I think it has to do with party culture though.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:50:32 2020 No.11880720

It goes
>Oxbridge
>Russel Group
>Everything else

Obvious the boundary of the bottom of Russel Group is a bit fuzzy, but in general that's it. Doing any kind of internal ranking inside those categories is just retarded. Which one you should apply to should really come down to personal preference and what you think of the environment of the individual unis.
All that being said, Imperial is the most fucking autistic uni in existence. Anyone whos going there needs to learn Chinese as a second language to be able to survive and needs to tolerate concentrated spergery at levels not normally seen on earth. I had that shit down as my 4th choice, and this is me speaking as a Cambridge mathmo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:04:38 2020 No.11880749 >>11880720 Wow. Is UCL any better? Because I'm planning to go there for CS postgrad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:01:53 2020 No.11880865 >>11876883 Please, elaborate. Also, tell me about your experiences in Cambridge.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:15:16 2020 No.11880908 >>11880865 Yes he probably wears gowns and eats at formal dinners. Cant say im not jealous but there aren't many that get to experience that. Be happy at your uni look, for what makes your uni a unique experience.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:23:20 2020 No.11880926 >>11880908 Actually, I mostly wanted to know how political things are and pros/cons of Cambridge's maths as an undergrad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:25:03 2020 No.11880930 Why are people talking about universities? Isnt this science and math board

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:40:41 2020 No.11880958 >>11880926 It's quite apolitical. Don't let this irrelevant issue influence your decision. Cambridge maths is the best in the world imo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 11:44:37 2020 No.11881119 where you go to uni is ultimately irrelevant, you still have to live in the world's first deanocracy. deanos rule everything around you

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 12:08:08 2020 No.11881198

>>11880603
Salah is being shoehorned into every second advertisement because of how popular he is. I guess they were going for the business/management/political science crowd, who really don't give a shit about academics and just want a degree from England.
>>11880663
Topkek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 13:02:55 2020 No.11881342 I studied at St Andrews, its quite small yet has very high entry standards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 13:19:10 2020 No.11881383 >>11875114 uk education is pozzed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 13:47:05 2020 No.11881431 >>11880720 >It goes >>Oxbridge >>Russel Group >>Everything else No it doesnt

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 13:55:52 2020 No.11881470 I went to Warwick to study maths and became fully jokerfied as a result. Easily the worst decision of my life (there have been several).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:05:21 2020 No.11881490 File: 163 KB, 1462x1462, 1560075072288.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11881119 >deanocracy

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:12:57 2020 No.11881501

>>11880926
don't listen to the other guy, he's a massive faggot. coming from a comfy politically incorrect shithole, I absolutely hate the entirety of the uk. I don't think cambridge is particularly bad but I wouldn't know. your decision depends on your situation, if you're british and used to this garbage then you might find the cambridge maths experience good. I, for one, am not finding it good at all.
the maths education itself is also pretty terrible. if you're willing to sacrifice your sanity to go to a high prestige school and if you're actually super smart, go to one of the top american unis. I have plenty of friends and acquaintances doing maths both at cambridge/ oxford and in top us schools and the americans actually learn stuff, unlike us.
basically if you're an absolute top tier genius you can thrive anywhere, but if you're just *good* at maths then cambridge will throw you under the bus.
you're forced to take garbage applied maths courses for the first two years and they're completely pointless. then there's plenty of issues with the pure stuff too: basically all the algebra problem sets amount to "compute the minimal polynomial/ class group/ whatever of this thing" and there's zero thinking required. differential geometry is a complete trainwreck, as is algebraic topology. I've heard horrible tales about how poorly the algebraic geometry course is taught. basically cambridge is only really good for combinatorics and analysis, or maybe for statistics or other applied maths/ theoretical physics garbage if you're that kind of subhuman.
the only good things about the maths program here are the prestige of the uni, the prestige of the profs lecturing you (although they don't give a shit about you and lecture like ass) and the very high quality of the students and competitive atmosphere. other than that, it's every man for himself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:24:41 2020 No.11881516 >>11881470 can you explain your story in more depth? What exactly do you mean, so we can learn from it. I kinda was planning to study math, is that or warwick the problem?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:26:51 2020 No.11881520 >>11881501 sounds pretty epic. Might go for postgrad

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:31:04 2020 No.11881526
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>>11881501
I also hate this country but I don't know how to get out, I hope my degree in EEE will help but im not sure what to do, im a first year student and im starting to worry that im going to finish this degree and have no idea how to take the first step.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:31:49 2020 No.11881530

>>11881520
postgrad is fine, there's fewer politically correct braindead faggots you have to interact with. you can also metaphorically bitchslap some undergrads when you supervise them which is pretty cool. what's your area and how far into your phd are you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:32:10 2020 No.11881532 >>11881470 I see you took the Land pill.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:41:13 2020 No.11881551 >>11881530 im first year undergrad, im just planning for the future. maybe a possible masters at cambridge provided I get a first in my russel group uni.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:43:16 2020 No.11881557 >>11875114 Birmingham is unironically booming rn. The city is getting massive investment, got the QE hospital, new Dental hospital which is massive and is making a new biomedical school. Watch out for UoB

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:46:37 2020 No.11881564

>>11881526
Ditto. I’m starting a dentistry course soon and will definitely leave the U.K. permenantly when I can. I’m aware of greener pastures etc. but man, tories have decimated the economy and public spending. Cuts fucking everywhere. This can’t last long. And Brexit is gonna take us 10+ years to get over (whether you voted leave or remain)

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:50:51 2020 No.11881575

Literally any Red brick and up is fine.

Stop being an autist, and apply yourself.

A kid who studies hard at Manchester will shit all over a rich entitled kid who gets into Oxford with daddy's connections but doesn't study.

Some minor exceptions for choosing meme subjects that a particular uni does badly

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:53:28 2020 No.11881582 >>11881551 >first year undergrad at shithole uni >teehee I might go to cambridge for postgrad kill yourself nigger, cambridge might be trash but it's still hard to get into as a student, let alone a postgrad

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:58:12 2020 No.11881590

>>11881516
I didn't like the culture, the fact that it was on a campus, my tutor changed every year I was there which made getting letters of recommendation difficult. I made the decision solely based on which of the courses I could get on (having bombed my Cambridge interview) I thought was most prestigious/difficult/rigorous/whatever and neglected to consider if I would actually enjoy spending years of my life there. I was also delusional and thought that I would meet (and I mean this as snobbishly as possible) an entirely better class of people when I went to university and not mouth breathing lower middle class strivers like myself.

It was a very disappointing experience all in all, but obviously ymmv. If I could do it again I would have taken a year out to reapply to Oxford and mature a bit etc before going to uni. Also given my exceptionally sensitive, retiring and dainty nature I would have chosen somewhere with nicer architecture.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:59:16 2020 No.11881595 >>11881532 Yes I'm now hyper-racist

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:11:10 2020 No.11881609 >>11881516 Warwick is literally a meme uni for bitter Oxbridge rejects like this guy -> >>11881590

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:15:36 2020 No.11881618 >>11881582 im starting to doubt that you went to Cambridge

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:18:10 2020 No.11881626 >>11881590 durham sounds like the place for you!

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:22:32 2020 No.11881633

Most famous and successful entrepreneurs went to the top universities in their country. Say if i just didn't make it into oxbridge, how hard will it be to find similar ambitious, and motivated people to work with? where do I find people like this? If I were to find myself, I would be in the library but its hard to distinguish people in there and its not common culture to approach people during work. Im not sure which societies will have the most motivated people, and aren't just there for the socials.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:26:57 2020 No.11881641 >mfw no loans and home fees for an yuro like me since i can only start in 2021

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:30:25 2020 No.11881648 >>11881618 why, because I started talking shit to retards? keep baiting faggot, you might just annoy me enough to post a pic of my student card

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:34:09 2020 No.11881656 >>11881633 Any place like Oxbridge, St Andrews, Imperial etc.. has a entrepeneurs and/or investing society. Despite all the memes you can made good connections in the hockey and football teams.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:45:56 2020 No.11881677 >>11881626 Lol yeah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:52:04 2020 No.11881694 >>11875114 Why no mention of Edinburgh? I'm American and I have a couple of friends who went there for undergrad MechE (or whatever the bong equivalent is called), one of them works at SpaceX now. It seems like a fun town and reputable school.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:52:25 2020 No.11881695 >>11881648 you just seem far too gremlin. you language seems like you spend all your free time in /v/. Just my impression. Don't get upset.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:57:35 2020 No.11881702

>>11881656
Southampton has a Dragons Den like Startup Accelerator , called Future Worlds. Its pretty cool. IF you pitch your idea well enough You will receive funding from the university. It has a stage and its fun and motivational to watch.

Is this normal, any other Universities do this? I don't hear much about similar things.

Also all the usual entrepreneurs and future/engineering careers societies.

Incase anyone wanted to know.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:03:15 2020 No.11881715

>>11881694
Also Good. I think Maybe its because Edinburgh isnt really best at anything? half of the list has unis that are almost at oxbridge for one particular subject. correct me if im wrong.

Either way probably should've been mentioned. its a discussion on 4channel, not the studentroom.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:13:00 2020 No.11881746

>>11875114
If you actually want to learn and develop, at all costs avoid St Andrews. You can do the same shit by yourself. It's nice for connections, I guess, and also most of the large companies come to campus to scout for potential wageslaves. Having that in mind, I believe that no person seriously looking for scientific endeavours should go there. I was not such a guy, but you might be, OP. Also avoid Scotland if you are not from the UK, I come from a southern country and was shocked how miserable it is. It's cold, damp, no sun whatsoever almost all the time. And no, it's not like the rest of Britain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:23:13 2020 No.11881776 >>11881746 Scotland is far whiter and more pleasant as a result than the rest of the UK.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:25:08 2020 No.11881780 >>11881746 >It's cold, damp, no sun whatsoever almost all the time. lmao I'm american and that sounds great, I will be recommending Scotland to all my fellow whites. t. Berkeleyfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:27:42 2020 No.11881786 >>11881776 People are enslaved by degeneracy in the form of alcohol and drugs there, so not a real plus that it's whiter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:29:29 2020 No.11881791 >>11881786 not my experience in Edinburgh, which is by far the best place to live in the UK

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:32:13 2020 No.11881798 >>11881780 St Andrews might have the largest percentage of american students in UK universities so go ahead. Thought the same in high school, but after the first week depression really settled in. No sun fucks you up quite a lot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:33:36 2020 No.11881805 >>11881791 Yeah, Edinburgh is different. Dundee, Glasgow, Aberdeen though.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:35:14 2020 No.11881808

>>11875114
Oxford will always be number one just because its Oxford.
St Andrews is unironically the comfiest place in the UK.
Cambridge nowadays is just Oxford with a different name.
Durham is honestly dead. Nothing happens there.
Birmingham is a shithole.
Southampton is a shithole.
Imperial, UCL and King's College would be good if they weren't in London and your rent wouldn't leave you bankrupt.
No opinion on Warwick. Manchester is for fucking drama cunts desu.
Glasgow is good, not cold you're a pussy, and nights out in Glasgow are top tier, the campus is in the West End which is the furthest thing from a dump. My opinion of Glasgow may be tainted by the fact I got with a Norwegian girl there. Downside to Glasgow is that it's full of Chinese students moving around in flocks.
Bath is for nonce rugby lads who study communications or something.
Nottingham, Leeds, Bristol are all shit.

Surprised you left out Edinburgh desu. But that's like London, the rent will absolutely drain your bank balance. Honourable mention for posho central Exeter. I went there on a visit and some girl said to me "Daddy's just bought me a horse."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:35:28 2020 No.11881811 >>11881805 To me those places are preferable to living in many of the places Russell group unis are situated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:36:37 2020 No.11881814 >>11880097 >Liverpool >C Tier I went to Kent you're doing fine you fucking mug. Liverpool is honestly class though, the scouse are the funniest people in Britain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:38:12 2020 No.11881817 >>11880720 Russell Group is largely meaningless nowadays mate. Fucking Newcastle is Russell Group.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:41:41 2020 No.11881830 >>11881715 Edinburgh's Medical School is extremely highly rated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:43:05 2020 No.11881837 >>11881805 Glasgow is like any other city in the western world. You get good parts and bad parts. Edinburgh is the best city to live in Britain though. I'd go as far as saying it's the best in Europe.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:47:26 2020 No.11881856

>>11881798
it's because St Andrews was on the Common App last I heard, and if you have a high SAT score you are likely to get in without having to bother with UCAS. It's a pretty smart way to get way more applicants (who are ready to pay full tuition) than similar UK schools.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:48:20 2020 No.11881862 >>11881837 well someone's never left the country.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:54:39 2020 No.11881880 File: 100 KB, 236x213, Open_University_Coat_of_Arms_Modern.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How good or bad is the Open University?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:55:00 2020 No.11881883 >>11881814 Ay I go to Kent Fucking sucks ass, I regret wasting my A levels crying over some bitch

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:59:58 2020 No.11881897 >>11881776 Mate Scotland is just about better than Northern Ireland, a country that has just finished a civil war and that has literal walls separating Catholics and Protestants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:01:48 2020 No.11881902 Too many doomers itt keep saying everything is shit. Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham etc. aren't shit. You want shit then go to Belfast. Also, we mog ROI's unis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:08:59 2020 No.11881920 >>11881897 Yeah so?

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:10:58 2020 No.11881925

>>11881902
this.

The number of doomers here.

Oxbridge isn't the only way to a decent life although it does help. There are plenty of oxbridge graduates who just have no social skills or studied an unemployable degree, they might be struggling to find a job.
It isn't be all or end all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:11:29 2020 No.11881926 >>11881883 What you studying anon

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:13:53 2020 No.11881934

>>11881897
>>11881837
>>11881811
Was talking about Scotland in general, St Andrews is relatively quiet, clublife is almost non-existent, a lot of old people live there, golfers galore half year long. I guess you'll find the more posh oxbridge rejects there. All in all, though, I wouldn't recommend Scotalnd to any mainland european to be fair. The UK as a whole honestly is a shithole - Scotland has cooler lads compared to the insufferable average Londoner, but yeah, lack of sun and bone chilling winds throughout the entire year are a huge detriment. I wonder why britbongs rarely consider other european countries for their bachelors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:14:58 2020 No.11881941 File: 24 KB, 400x400, nzG6w8iD_400x400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875154 >t.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:18:08 2020 No.11881947 >>11875154 Southampton doesn't have my preferred engineering course

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:18:26 2020 No.11881950

>>11881934
cont.
So it's honestly understandable that the British wanted to get away from this bloody island and ended up with an empire. But honestly, to any anons wondering whether they should study in the UK - consider other countries. The Netherlands have most of their Bachelor degrees in English, most Scandinavian unis do as well I believe. For Masters or PHD you can go literally everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:22:17 2020 No.11881969 >>11881925 it's literally the only way to lead a distinguished life. everyday life in the uk is completely miserable without that

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:24:49 2020 No.11881976

>>11881934
>The UK as a whole honestly is a shithole
No, we're better off than most of Europe. Only Switzerland and Norway are clearly better and they are small population countries with political neutrality (Switzerland) or massive natural resources (Norway's oil).

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:30:18 2020 No.11881999

Went to Uni of Manchester for a Materials BSc, fucking loved it, had no trouble getting into a masters and getting a job.
Truth is outside Oxbridge as long as you get a first there is literally no difference between the unis in your list. Choose the city you wanna live in for 3 years, that's gonna have a much bigger impact in your life.
And always remember - AT LEAST IT'S NOT MAN MET

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:31:33 2020 No.11882004
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>>11881976
>No, we're better off than most of Europe. Only Switzerland and Norway are clearly better and they are small population countries with political neutrality (Switzerland) or massive natural resources (Norway's oil).
lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:35:47 2020 No.11882019 >>11881947 then It might be worthless unless petroleum or along those lines. keep that in mind, what is your preferred course? There are only a few Engineering courses which are actually worth it, some are really dying. or just not valuable in the UK.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:37:28 2020 No.11882026 >>11882019 Chemeng

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:38:27 2020 No.11882030

>>11882004
GDP per capita isn't the only way to measure an individual's life. I'd rather live in the UK in my current situation than in cold as fuck Finland bordering hostile Russia. Wow, look at Italy, lots of blue there, must be good right? Would anyone live in Italy right now compared to the UK? Where's the migration flows happening: Italy to UK or UK to Italy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:38:30 2020 No.11882031 >>11882026 Fair enough. Where are you planning to go?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:39:41 2020 No.11882036 >>11882004 This is motivating me to get back into learning German.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:41:12 2020 No.11882040 >>11875154 Wouldn't really put Warwick there, maybe add Manchester in Eng too?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:42:50 2020 No.11882046 >>11882031 Planning to go to Leeds for chemeng with material engineering and probably process engineering after. Any experience in this field?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:44:11 2020 No.11882051 >>11882040 in maths, ranked by research quality the top four are oxford, cambridge, imperial and warwick

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:50:52 2020 No.11882061

>>11882046
I was aiming for Imperial, UCL, Manchester for ChemE.
Heard some terrible things about UCL's ChemE program (engineering in general), but that was 5 years ago, so I don't know if it's still shit. I ended up going to Imperial, but Manchester is also very good for ChemE. I don't know about Leeds though. I'm currently working at an energy company overseas.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:51:56 2020 No.11882066 >>11882061 >I'm currently working at an energy company overseas. kek. how to identify you're working in the gulf but embarassed of working in barbaric countries. don't worry, i'd do it for the dosh too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:53:02 2020 No.11882070 >>11882051 What list are you looking at? I assume you have a similar process for those two in Engineering?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:00:20 2020 No.11882084 >>11882066 Don't want to doxx myself, but it's not in the MENA region. Know a couple of people who went to Qatar and the UAE, though. I even heard of someone working in Iraq for Schlumberger because of how much they pay for you to travel there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:00:33 2020 No.11882087 File: 230 KB, 1200x793, 1200px-Founders_Building_Royal_Holloway_University_of_London_-_Diliff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875114 What is that ugly thing op? Does nobody care for the architecture of the University they attend?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:03:35 2020 No.11882094 >>11882087 Does anyone care for the architecture in the UK? If the government could, they'd get rid of all the nasty old brick buildings and install London skyscrapers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:04:40 2020 No.11882098 >>11881814 >>11881883 Fellow Kent here. Off to imperial for postgrad, have I made a mistake?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:10:39 2020 No.11882118 >>11882087 How dare you insult the Iconic Minecraft Building of Southampton

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:11:45 2020 No.11882121 >>11882098 If you're kent educated you won't survive lol. what did you study and what are you going to study. I assume you got a first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:16:58 2020 No.11882132 >>11882121 Physics at both, I've looked at some of the imp modules already as most of them have a public page to view and it doesn't seem impossible, just a lot of work, and yes I got a comfortable first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:20:38 2020 No.11882140 >>11881808 What did you study at Glasgow and what class did you finish with?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:20:52 2020 No.11882141 Anyone else think the space sector could be rising? UK government purchased SKYNET after leaving EU’s Galileo

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:22:44 2020 No.11882145

>>11882132
Good luck to you then. You seem capable. Why did you choose Kent though?

Btw what do physics graduates do with their degree? We're in the UK! what jobs are there? You just study it because it's fascinating? Others who also study physics or maths please give some insight.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:27:39 2020 No.11882149

>>11881808
>My opinion of Glasgow may be tainted by the fact I got with a Norwegian girl there.
ManOfTaste.jpg

I did Physics at Strathclyde. It is perhaps not the most famous university but what I learned has come in useful in the years I have been working.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:31:43 2020 No.11882156 >>11882004 Be aware that in a Soviet grade attempt of demonstrating "progress", the EU resorted to include prostitution into GDP. Funnily when the EU moves between Brussels and Strasbourg busloads of prostitutes also move.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:43:25 2020 No.11882178 >>11882149 The only Norwegian girl I've ever met was a chubby bitch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:51:53 2020 No.11882204 >>11881880 Idk. They're on university challenge though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:53:07 2020 No.11882209 File: 80 KB, 1200x350, iu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My god! look at the GMT! its bed time everyone! goodnight, sweet dreams.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:53:12 2020 No.11882210 File: 2.02 MB, 839x1285, 98y698654.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on polytechnics?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:56:25 2020 No.11882218 Who /plate glass/ uni here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:58:42 2020 No.11882222 >>11882145 Didn't do super well at A-level so I didn't have a lot to choose from, Kent is nice though and I don't regret studying here. Mostly study out of passion and plan on becoming an academic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:59:07 2020 No.11882226 >>11882218 I've applied to keele to do physics and astrophysics. Thinking of trying to get my way into Uni of Nottingham through clearing though, thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:59:40 2020 No.11882228 >>11881557 >got the QE hospital, That shits been there for years >Birmingham is unironically booming rn Its not. Please dont come here, its full of crime t. Bham

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:01:55 2020 No.11882233 >>11881633 >where do I find people like this? London

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:03:24 2020 No.11882238 >>11882233 Please don't say that, you'll make me cry. I am a london resident. Don't tell Me I left the city and all my similar people behind. Anyone else?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:03:51 2020 No.11882240 >>11881808 autism

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:05:46 2020 No.11882245

>>11881925
>There are plenty of oxbridge graduates who just have no social skills or studied an unemployable degree, they might be struggling to find a job.

Every Oxbridge graduate I know is struggling to find a job. It seems it doesnt matter where you go, just how you apply yourself and get your head in ennit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:05:57 2020 No.11882248 >>11882238 My fucking sides.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:07:10 2020 No.11882252 >>11881999 Why does anything with Metropolitan at the end always end up being shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:08:07 2020 No.11882255 >>11882178 How strange. Pop over to >>>/int/Norge to peruse nicer pictures.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:08:31 2020 No.11882258 >>11882226 >Thinking of trying to get my way into Uni of Nottingham through clearing though, thoughts? Worth a shot. Depends if you think you'll make it or not. Uni applications are lower this year so keep that in mind

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:09:35 2020 No.11882259 File: 622 KB, 1024x647, 1585311043165.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11882238 Where else you going to find them? Yorkshire? Get a grip

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:13:38 2020 No.11882266

>>11882258
>Uni applications are lower this year

I heard that there are fewer international students coming over, which is why I've been leaning towards it. My reservation is how much turmoil it could cause re: my loan and accommodation applications. I'd be starting a bsc so I've little idea of what to do

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:18:31 2020 No.11882280 File: 126 KB, 800x769, 1574879655927.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11882266 >My reservation is how much turmoil it could cause re: my loan and accommodation applications. Explain

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:23:39 2020 No.11882292

>>11882280
Lockdown started so I spent the first month arranging everything for me to head to keele (Accomadation, student and maintenance loans, etc) but I'm regretting it now as they only just started offering the course I'm taking which is making me doubtful. My physics tutor also did his doctorate at Uni of Nottingham and rated it highly to me after telling me what grades he'll be giving me.

I'm just worried it's too late is all

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:29:44 2020 No.11882304

>>11882292
>My physics tutor also did his doctorate at Uni of Nottingham and rated it highly to me after telling me what grades he'll be giving me.

Hes giving you the go ahead.

>(Accomadation, student and maintenance loans, etc)

If you change uni's it can all be done online on sfe. You just change uni and they'll do the rest for you its surprisingly easy, onyl thing is they take ages but as long as you do it before enrolment.

Its all up to you. If you think you have a good chance of getting into Nott then do it. Make a strong application and give it a shot.
t. I've changed uni's before

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 03:30:17 2020 No.11883212
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Good morning England ONLY!

Im about to start first year engineering at a top russel group. Is it worth trying to apply for imperial now and trying to transfer or just try for postgrad. thinking about this is stressful and I don't know how important it is to go there!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 03:50:04 2020 No.11883232 >>11883212 Depends on which Russel Group uni. IMO, its worth it if you want to take the hassle of trying to transfer. But we don't know your specific situation/marks so it's hard to say whether you have a fighting chance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:00:56 2020 No.11883246 >>11883232 say if I was top in my class at Soton or UCL got a first in first year, a chance? what else could be done to improve my chances?

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:39:45 2020 No.11883286

>>11881880
I'm studying biology with OU right now and I think it's pretty good. You don't get the full university experience, but if you're anti-social and want to purely focus on studying then I would recommend. They do give opportunities for networking with day schools and online employer showcases and free tutorials on boosting your career in STEM.

They have the OU library for students which is online access to literally millions of journals/articles/ebooks/papers and more and you can download most of it. You get access to journals which are paywalled online but if you sign in through the OU student library you can access all of their articles. It's an absolute gold mine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:46:27 2020 No.11883296 >>11883286 Mate you can get access to any journal or ebook online right now if you know what websites to use. Anything published online can be access, whether its behind a paywall or not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:50:23 2020 No.11883299 >>11883296 This Everything digital is already free.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:09:04 2020 No.11883325 >>11875114 Dundee got 4th ranked in the whole of the UK for Life Science.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:14:04 2020 No.11883332 >>11875114 Anon from a third world country studying CS in my home country. Planning to come to England for a master's. But all you anons are hell bent on leaving England. Why's that? Isn't England a pretty comfortable place to live in?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:17:19 2020 No.11883334 >>11883332 Because this is 4chan where everyone hates themselves and hates their own country. Posters here order pizza every day at 11pm and don't leave their rooms.

manon Thu Jul 9 05:17:27 2020 No.11883335

>>11883332
>Anon from a third world country studying CS in my home country. Planning to come to England for a master's. But all you anons are hell bent on leaving England. Why's that? Isn't England a pretty comfortable place to live in?
I'm also from 3rd world country and I would rather live in my country than in UK. UK is an expensive, sunless, sad shithole. Go to sunnier and cheaper place for masters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:21:40 2020 No.11883343 >>11883335 Yeah California would be my second choice. But I dislike that place for other reasons. England is beautiful in comparison

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:56:41 2020 No.11883367 >>11883332 its good if you're used to the third world. but some of us are just angry at everything and some have higher standards. I plan to live in Switzerland in the future, Study your Msc/Meng here, it'll be good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:58:05 2020 No.11883370 >>11883343 England is only beautiful, Sometimes. If you go to Birmingham it is not beautiful. If you go to Oxford it is beautiful. If you go to London you'll get a mix of both.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 06:22:16 2020 No.11883424 >>11883212 >Im about to start first year engineering at a top russel group. Is it worth trying to apply for imperial now What? >>11883246 Why would you want to transfer from UCL to Imperial? They're both good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 06:23:19 2020 No.11883426 >>11883332 >But all you anons are hell bent on leaving England. Why's that? Isn't England a pretty comfortable place to live in? Grass is greener etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 06:25:02 2020 No.11883429 >>11883332 it's got a lot to do with knowing you are living in a country in terminal decline

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 06:29:44 2020 No.11883433 >>11883286 >>11881880 What about the more hands-on courses and subjects like chemistry? How does that work with distant learning?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 07:04:24 2020 No.11883473 >>11883424 Imperial > UCL So Its not worth the trouble? Im new to all this, so I wouldn't be hindering my potential? I could work harder.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 08:08:14 2020 No.11883577
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>>11883473
>Imperial > UCL

Are you saying you're already at Imperial? If you were, theres still no reason to switch to UCL unless you're going for a specific department thats better at UCL. But even then, the Uni's are top tier so idk why you're being autistic

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:27:55 2020 No.11883706

>>11883296
What sources/websites do you use to get access to journals?

>>11883433
They guide you through doing experiments at home, they do video demonstrations, or you do experiments at day school. As part of my course last year I extracted DNA from my mouth, tested the effect of different environments on the rate of rust on steel nails, converted hydrogen peroxide to water using potato catalase. We had an entire day school on geology and rock identification. It does involve doing group projects where everyone in your tutor group collects some data and you collate all of the information into a wiki page on the OU website, and then we had to analyse and draw it up into graphs and shit. It's pretty fun, and you can do some of the easier stuff with things you have around the house. The more complicated experiments were generally on videos so I imagine for the chemistry course they do it that way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:37:02 2020 No.11883733 File: 65 KB, 900x450, default-logo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I did an Electronic Engineering MEng at Sheffield. It was pretty good. I'm now doing a PhD at Edinburgh. It's pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:44:24 2020 No.11883752 >>11883706 research libgen (library genesis) http://gen.lib.rus.ec there are probably others too, depending on your subject you'll need to find specific places. Go on reddit r/piracy and find out more yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 11:05:26 2020 No.11883866 >>11883733 You gonna work in the UK or abroad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 12:58:33 2020 No.11884107 >>11882087 It's been closed for years and they can't demolish it for some reason. Before closure wind would cause lifts to jam and the whole building to sway apparently.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:17:48 2020 No.11884149

>>11883335
I was a student at Strathclyde and I sure didn't go there for the weather. You get used to the near constant rain.

>>11883429
>a country in terminal decline
You can say that about most of the West.

>>11882087
>Does nobody care for the architecture of the University they attend?
The less said about the architecture of Strathclyde the better though there were some weird rumours about the building housing Architecture.

All in all it is neither the climate nor the building that count but the staff doing the lecturing and research. Thankfully.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:19:12 2020 No.11884158

>>11883473
>Imperial > UCL
The difference between the two isn't going to be enough at undergrad for it to be worth switching.
You won't "hinder you potential" in any measurable way by staying at UCL rather than imperial. Teaching quality is unlikely to be much different from one university to the next. Employers won't care, as long as you get a first (or 2-1 at least).
The most important thing at undergrad is getting good grades and getting internships if possible, so long as you're at a half way decent institution where you do it won't matter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:29:47 2020 No.11884509 >>11884158 can anyone else confirm that this is the case? So in question if we replace UCL with other unis such as Manchester, Birmingham, Southampton & Bath, the same applies? Or are some of these not on the same playing-field as Imperial&UCL?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:33:00 2020 No.11884516 >>11882210 Your question may have been answered and not ignored if you didn't look like a fool attaching a picture like that. A Polytechnic will definitely suit your empty skull.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:46:46 2020 No.11884540

I got an offer to study mathematics at St Andrews, should I take it? I'm from a third world country, my main "goal" of studying in Scotland was to get a degree in Europe so that it'd be easier to then continue my work or further studies there, making connections and c. I heard good things about the department so that's the main reason I applied to St Andrews.
So, would it be worth it to pay full tuition for 3 years rather than attend a cheaper university at my home country? How is a degree in Maths from St Andrews generally seen by employers/etc. I don't really care about clubbing, or that the weather is damp, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:02:40 2020 No.11884580 >>11884516 Who hurt you? Transphobic ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:11:41 2020 No.11884997 >>11880926 This is a dumb concern. Mathmos don't care about politics. Other ppl in camb might, but you can ignore them 99% of the time if they annoy you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:13:19 2020 No.11885002 >>11881648 Dox your csrid

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:14:13 2020 No.11885005 >>11881501 This. If you're a world class mathematician (no one here is), go to MIT/Berkeley/Harvard/Princeton.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 21:11:55 2020 No.11885458 >>11884540 UK fees are a ripoff and way too much for what you pay for, just stay at home for the main degree, just do a 1 masters abroad if you really want to go. A degree isn't worth the debt. Still a big waste of money though

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 21:13:54 2020 No.11885466 is there anyone here at UCL? we have a competing physics research group and I just want to tell you to go fuck yourselves, we're going to push out our results first.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 21:15:02 2020 No.11885470 >>11885466 and by UCL I mean imperial, because who fucking cares lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 22:00:34 2020 No.11885612 >>11875114 Dont go to bath, the campus is in the middle of fucking no where at the top of a fuck off big hill

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 22:15:08 2020 No.11885670 I study at Kingston

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:16:22 2020 No.11885950 >>11881501 >>11885005 Third worlder here. Why exactly is America better?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:58:13 2020 No.11886021 >>11885950 because our (top) unis are incomparably better than others

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 01:54:59 2020 No.11886145 >>11886021 I find it weird. Wouldn't math at Oxbridge or Imperial be at a similar level to that at MIT, Caltech or Ivy League?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 02:01:02 2020 No.11886159 >>11886145 caltech math is meh, as someone who goes there (for phys)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:21:26 2020 No.11886398 >>11886021 Oxford and Cambridge are not only better than American Unis but are also far cheaper. American education is a complete rip off. There's people in there 50's still paying off student loans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:02:33 2020 No.11886453 >>11885466 All the Stem UCL people I've met are always so annoying. why is that? Some other guy from EEE was saying how they have the leading research... why are they all full of themselves... based or stupid?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:04:46 2020 No.11886457 >>11885670 I live in Kingston, my brother might study there, whats it like? he's not doing well at school and might do the foundation year there then Aircraft Maintenance engineering. Can you tell us more about what its like and what you study?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:06:08 2020 No.11886460 >>11885612 Besides that its decent? Or not? I have a friend there studying IMEE and he says its great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:09:17 2020 No.11886468 >>11876910 Jesters

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:13:43 2020 No.11886472

>>11886468
Jesters is shit... what is there to like. im not a clubbing person and I don't like getting dirty but jesters was the worst of all... People really gave me shit for thinking that. whats so good about it? did you like coming home covered in vomit and shoes all brown?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:17:19 2020 No.11886477 File: 1.40 MB, 320x213, 1560568574173.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11885670

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:20:20 2020 No.11886480

43 they're all hopeless expeditions and i haven't bothered applying despite wanting to, also failed A levels didnt get even BBB and i am unkempt internet weirdo who may spread corona and bad ideas, also i havent got a single STEM degree.
My opinion on them is probably same as the other anons post. Good for m8s and drinking while watching ikiru

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:23:31 2020 No.11886485

>>11875154
Just put in the effort and go imperial for engineering, southampton is a shit city.

>>11875114
The building in OPs pic started sagging almost immediately and is basically condemed but it cant be knocked down due to its proximity to housing and other buildings.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:35:46 2020 No.11886506

>>11886485
worth transferring to imperial? Im already about to start first year at Southampton. Didn't get an offer for Imperial didnt apply either.

Do you think it's worth transferring after this first year for academic reasons? or are you just saying this because of the location.

I live in London normally so im not too fussed about experiencing London.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:37:30 2020 No.11886509 >>11886477 Leave him alone man. Kingston isnt great on the charts but they're good for some industry links surprisingly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:38:31 2020 No.11886513 >>11886480 ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:48:12 2020 No.11886528 How does Cornwall not have a university (and is generally a poor place) despite the great views and rich people buying loads of 2nd homes there?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:51:22 2020 No.11886536 >>11886528 idk but I wouldn't want to study there. The train lines from cornwall to the rest of the UK are very bad, it just doesn't have enough infrastructure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:06:16 2020 No.11886569 I go to Oxford, 2 years into a maths undergrad degree, if anyone has questions about admissions / life there I'm happy to help

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:17:35 2020 No.11886592 >>11886569 What were your A-level results? were you state school educated?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:18:58 2020 No.11886598 >>11886569 How does it feel to be a member of this country's distinguished élite

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:25:30 2020 No.11886617 >>11886569 How much pussy you nail?

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:27:13 2020 No.11886622

>>11886592
Private school, IB not A level, but I scored 45 (the max)

>>11886598

Doesn't feel like it yet, maybe when I start working. Maybe just because 'you're always looking for that next raise', but even at oxford I've seen general separation of social groups into elites and non-elites. i.e. bunch of old etonians / elite priv school people who stick together, and alot of people try and break into that circle, being part of that group is what leads to easy jobs in top firms / access to high up people ect.. for the rest of your life (depends on industry ofc)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:40:55 2020 No.11886644 >>11886622 honestly sounds amazing, im so jealous. I couldn't even get into imperiAl. stuck at soton eng

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:51:01 2020 No.11886677

>>11886644
probably been said 1000 times on here but at uni hard work goes really really far, if you went HAM on your BA & some relevant extracurriculars/projects you could do postgrad at top uni if you wanted to. Most people's time allocation is probably not focused on their degree, and its totally fair to have different priorities whether sport or social. soton is pretty decent for eng (top 10 mecheng) so it's def possible if you wanted to do it. plently of other paths though. it helps to be friends with people with similar goals

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:52:14 2020 No.11886681

>>11875114
Nobody remembers where you got your degree after you graduate and work in industry. If you're producing results, nobody is going to care apart from some butthurt snobs who are insecure that you're doing better work or research than they are, despite going to a less prestigious uni.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 07:14:31 2020 No.11886727 >>11886506 I've changed my mind Southampton is good I'm just miserable, what course are you doing?

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 07:24:15 2020 No.11886743

I go to a Robbins report school. It was a college of advanced technology before 1963 when it became a university. Only applied to one other place, Aberdeen, got accepted to both, but didn't want to move so far into Scotland in the end. A lot of the people here are quite dumb and lack fundamental skills, because the entry requirements are low, but I like it overall. The profs/lecturers take you seriously if they see you're actually putting in effort and doing work. Most of them know me by first name and say hello when I see them around campus. Some of the graduates seem to do okay and get jobs with airbus, major banks, etc. There is no prestige to carry you, so you really need to learn and build a marketable skill base. It's sink or swim.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 08:28:24 2020 No.11886883 >>11886727 hahaha Im about to start EEE. Seemed like you studied at Soton also? or Imperial. What was you experience and what did you study? Im curious now, what made you change your mind?

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 09:53:24 2020 No.11887088

>>11886622
>Private school, IB not A level,

>bunch of old etonians / elite priv school people who stick together, and alot of people try and break into that circle, being part of that group is what leads to easy jobs in top firms / access to high up people ect.. f

How horrifying. The class system and wealth is further defined and accelerates inequality for generations to come. I hope commies take over every top uni

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 09:55:57 2020 No.11887093
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>Not going to UoL and taking extra modules at UCL, Imperial, Kings, SOAS, Birkbeck, Goldsmiths and City then having them all show up on your certificate and being qualifiable to do anything you want

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:25:35 2020 No.11887275

>>11887088
>I hope commies take over every top uni
Did you know many on the left already have a background from top universities?

Many years ago, an English lord was a member of the communist party. HE was asked once what did he know about the labour class. "Everything, " he answered, "after all I employ them."

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 12:29:07 2020 No.11887420 >>11887093 Could one potentially be in the EEE course at UCL and attend Imperial Lectures easily and legally?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:09:20 2020 No.11887503 >>11887420 Yes >>11887275 That's Champagne socialism . Fuck them all

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:17:08 2020 No.11887518 >>11875154 I disagree, Cambridge is in a class of its own for maths. I've heard good things about Oxford, and I am a bit biased, but I really think Cambridge is just a clear first for maths and defines its own separate tier.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:25:35 2020 No.11887547

>>11881501
>but if you're just *good* at maths then cambridge will throw you under the bus.
How does Cambridge throw you under the bus? You're getting probably the closest relationship with tutors anywhere in the world, and you don't think you're getting enough support?
>then there's plenty of issues with the pure stuff too: basically all the algebra problem sets amount to "compute the minimal polynomial/ class group/ whatever of this thing" and there's zero thinking required.
That's not a problem. There are way too many maths classes that get these shit-for-brains students who want to get all lost in sniffing their own arses with disconnected abstractions, who can't do simple practical tasks like exactly what you're talking about, and they always go on to be absolutely useless mathematicians.
In my experience I actually felt the same way that you do at the time, but only realised after I mastered the material that quite a lot of the problem sets were really well-chosen problems that tested key concepts in a pretty efficient way. Obviously some courses are shit, but I didn't think they were shit across the board.
>differential geometry is a complete trainwreck
this part is true though
>>11885005
Dickhead-tier response. You're going to get way less support at fucking MIT than you would at Cambridge.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:46:18 2020 No.11887588

>>11887518
Cambridge is far better for applied maths, but not as good for pure maths. This can be seen if you compare the syllabus and exams. I'm the oxford bloke from before, full disclosure.

That being said, the top math students (as in literally the 15-20 best in the UK & the best internationals) go to trinity college Cambridge, and I think in general the better mathematicians are attracted to cambridge because of its history, so naturally the average mathematical talent will be higher there. Plus cambridge has an awesome history in maths from the start of the 20th century.

That being said, less content is taught at cambridge than at oxford, but there is more of an emphasis on problem solving.

In my opinion, if you want to be an academic / do a post-graduate degree / highly technical role like quant, go to Cambridge. If you want to join the workforce in a non academic/highly technical role (i.e. consultancy, banking, ect..) Oxford is better becuase of the networking/connections and job pipeline they have in place. Not gonna comment on US uni's becuase I have only anecdotal evidence of what it's like to study there.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:59:55 2020 No.11887611

>>11887588
He speaks nothing but truth...

If you aspire to be a mathematician and don't get into Oxbridge you might as well KILL YOURSELF you will NEVER do mathematics for a living and I would be HIGHLY surprised if you were even able to lead a dignified life after getting your pitiful first (or god forbid a 2.1) from one of the many DEGREE MILLS which crowd up the nation

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:05:37 2020 No.11887628 >>11886883 I do mech eng at soton, I thought about how life at a london uni is probably a lot different as many people commute in. I think the style where everyone lives close is better socially.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:14:26 2020 No.11887645

>>11887628
Despite southampton as a city not being that great and being quite naff.

Now that you've mentioned you prefer the social aspect of Soton over UoL im wondering what else you like? Im about to start and from this thread i've heard lots of negativity about Soton. Are you glad you're there as opposed to somewhere else? Is the engineering Department as good as it is said to be(comparative to Imperial for facilities and teaching)?

Just quite nervous and want to hear whats good about Soton.

thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:15:23 2020 No.11887649 >>11887588 Fair enough, I'd heard the physics courses at Oxford were ridiculously mathematical but hadn't actually heard much beyond that and I've never bothered to compare the courses.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 15:03:53 2020 No.11887765 >>11886480 Take your meds

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 15:07:05 2020 No.11887787 >>11875114 I went to Lancaster and beat Oxbridge/Russell students for my first engineering job. How do you incels (I also had sex at uni) COPE?

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 15:31:45 2020 No.11887869

>>11887547
>You're getting probably the closest relationship with tutors anywhere in the world, and you don't think you're getting enough support?
hilariously bad take. everyone thinks this from an outside perspective, but a lot of actual students here disagree. from the way you write I'm guessing you went to cambridge yourself, so I guess you just knew how to benefit from the system here the most, but I didn't.
I can't even begin to count the number of bad supervisions I've had. sure, some of them were my fault for not producing good work, but for the vast majority of 'bad' supervisions it was something along the lines of "hand in solutions to 90% of problem set, supervisor ticks everything without checking, then just tells me I got things right, explains one problem I didn't know how to do" and we would be finished in about 30 minutes and then we'd leave.
obviously I've met some fantastic profs (hail our glorious leader) but the quality varies so much across the board that it's a lot easier to remember the bad times, and that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. the system is great on paper but there are way too many disinterested supervisors. also only getting one supervision every two weeks kind of sucks whenever you fall behind or don't understand something.
at the end of the day, I know some people who are very very smart and thrive here, and I know some people who get along just fine without focusing too much on their degree and just having fun. I'm in the awkward spot where I'm good enough to focus on my degree and have high expectations for myself, but not good enough to actually make a good use of the resources I'm provided here and develop a rapport with the profs.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 15:38:44 2020 No.11887881

>>11887645
Im a shut in and barely went out but I just assume doing social stuff is more fulfilling. I cant describe it well but most lecturers are just there to deliver the lecture but occasionally you get one that actuallys wants to teach you and it stands out those are the best. I cant really compare it to other unis I havent had an experience but people say it is top tier for engineering so I believe them. I actually applied for comp sci but put no effort into A levels and didnt get it then they offered me mech eng so I didnt even see any other engineering departments when looking at unis.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:26:02 2020 No.11888000
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Many/ All the great Computer scientists studied physics!!!!

Will studying computer science or engineering give one the skills to excel in technology and engineering more or less than a Physics degree?

I want to study physics but CompSci is more employable and easier to ace.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:34:14 2020 No.11888019

Oxbridge anons, is it really that difficult to get into your engineering programs? Met an exchange student from Oxford, who told me that you have an extremely hard natural science assessment and interviews, so only very intelligent kids get in. Is this true?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:54:12 2020 No.11888085 >>11888019 You do have to be in the top percentile of your class to have a shot these days. More students are applying for these schools than ever before. I graduated from a top 3 US school for math and back then it wasn't as competitive as it is now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:57:45 2020 No.11888097 >>11888019 >>11888085 How are all the niggers getting in?

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:58:41 2020 No.11888101

>>11888000

Nice trips

>I want to study physics but CompSci is more employable and easier to ace.

Sounds like you already know the answer to your question. CS super super employable rn, coding skills are required for most tech roles. But if you want to study physics you should, some programming skills can always be learnt on the side if you want to go that route

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 17:01:21 2020 No.11888115 >>11888019 With Covido-nineteen, I suspect there will be a large decrease in international applicants. Not sure how that will affect engineering, but for maths and CS will likely make admissions easier

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 17:02:03 2020 No.11888120

>>11888097
This was always going to happen as demographics attending college changes over time. Strictly speaking they will still weigh your academic performance above all else (so if you have a 2.5 GPA you are not getting into MIT for example). But unfortunately admissions is highly political these days.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 17:19:16 2020 No.11888168

>>11887547
>Dickhead-tier response. You're going to get way less support at fucking MIT than you would at Cambridge.

Don't know about MIT in particular, but camb *much* more rigid than good US colleges. Good students there can jump ahead to higher level classes in a away that they just can't in Cambridge. No sitting in on later year lectures doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 17:20:47 2020 No.11888174 >>11887869 Whence we praise our dear leader

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 18:54:20 2020 No.11888375 >>11888000 Cursed Engineer Jeremy brings us 888000

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 18:59:11 2020 No.11888388 >>11888019 Just be black or a muslim and you'll get into oxbridge with average grades

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 19:11:31 2020 No.11888412
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>>11875114
>>11888375

Speaking of Cursed... I understand that Southampton was heavily Bombed, resulting in a quickly built concrete jungle or brutalist and utilitarian architecture. But why are Southampton's University buildings so cursed. I mean look at Photo attached and Op's picture.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 19:16:37 2020 No.11888420

>>11888412
This building is a decent meme, if you get a picture of the corner windows most are broken due to sagging at the corners, my tutor used to have an office near the top before he was forced out because it was too dangers, just to the right of this pic is a bunch of residential housing, to the left is a major uni building and behind is a computer lab so I doubt it will be demolished for some time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 19:21:25 2020 No.11888427 >>11888388 I dont think they have many places for this, many of my friends who got into oxbridge who were black/middle eastern were top performers in the year.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 19:33:21 2020 No.11888447 >>11884509 Well I have a friend who does CS at bath. Seems pretty shit in comparison to imperial. But then again CS is a bit hit and miss so it might be similar for engineering or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 19:44:28 2020 No.11888481 >>11888447 okay but bath isnt really on the same playing field for cs. Thats expected. I was talking more about bath mech eng and IMEE / EEE for the comparison and Soton ECS. Question still stands.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 21:00:54 2020 No.11888661

>>11886457
I wouldn't study Engineering here, they're about to close the entire Roehampton Vale Campus which is dedicated to Engineering.

Doing a foundation degree here and then using that to go somewhere else would be really good. Life science here is amazing. Lecturers have a real passion for microbiology - I have many friends who got onto phds at Nottingham etc straight from a bsc and many people got onto vet and medicine after doing life science degree here

I cannae tell you what I study

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:34:08 2020 No.11889221

>>11887869
Ok, after you wrote this I do see where you're coming from. I do agree a lot of them suck and don't care, I remember the GR course being absolute shit in particular.
I suppose I was a bit more assertive with actually getting some kind of assistance but I can definitely see how it could fail for most people, so I suppose you've changed my mind a little bit.
I still think it is overall better than most support systems you'd get elsewhere but I can see your point as well.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:00:56 2020 No.11889264
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Here’s my experience doing Maths at Bristol.

With maths, the university hierarchy is a bit distinct. I judged it based on whether analysis is taught in first year or not. It is at COWI, Durham, UCL and Bristol I think.

I ended up going Bristol which I regret a bit, I should’ve gone Imperial for Physics. Bristol is a very strange university, the campus is pretty bad, it’s pretty awfully segregated in terms of class, and the drug use is fucking insane. Additionally, I find a lot of people to be pretty dumb, although the STEM students tend to be fairly bright. However, the Maths department is really quite good, as are the modules. You can take 4th year Quantum Computing and Quantum Chaos modules in 3rd year for example. People don’t tend to be that passionate in general, I imagine it changes a bit as you go through the years.

It’s important to consider that the grass is always greener. Some people transfer into Bristol from places like Oxbridge and Imperial because of the lifestyle. My friend at Warwick kinda hates it and never wants to touch maths again.

My mate does maths at Oxford and desu it doesn’t seem awfully different, I imagine there’s a larger difference between it and Cam.

It is, imo, pretty true that the Oxbridge lifestyle is significantly better for most people, it seems fantastic when I’ve visited my mates.

I kinda rate Bristol, and for many I think it would be fantastic. But I kinda think I should’ve gone elsewhere.

For context I got A*A*AA [Maths, physics, FM, Philosophy] and 233 in STEP from a state school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:08:43 2020 No.11889277 >>11875114 Glasgow is cold, but pretty dope mate. Doing a BSc in Chemistry, but might change to Chemical Physics later on. Glasgow weirdly does very well in STEM, same with our nearby Strathclyde University.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:21:44 2020 No.11889306

>>11889277

On this as well, Glasgow according to the recent league tables, is just below Oxford in entry standards, as well as being third I believe in the amount of subjects they have in the top ten.

Devils advocate however, is that the city really drags the Universities reputation into the ground, since as we know, Glasgow is smackhead capital of probably Europe, despite amazing performances in recent years.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:27:25 2020 No.11889316

>>11889277

Want to sell this quite well, but Glasgow is also the 4th oldest University in the English speaking world, and is consistently in the top 100 internationally, unlike the large majority of Russell Group universities. It has two student unions, as well as having outstanding alumni. The main building is beautiful as well. Most cities are boring as fuck as well, Glasgow, being the place it is, can go from seeing junkies fight each other at the bus station (a favourite), to pretty mad gaffs.

Glasgow isn't full of snobby pricks either, which you'll find plenty of going to Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, and St Andrews.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:47:19 2020 No.11889345 >>11882030 A lot of people go to Italy instead of the UK and have been doing so for the past 30 years lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:20:33 2020 No.11889476 >>11889306 >Glasgow is smackhead capital of probably Europe ...

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:26:16 2020 No.11889484

>>11888661
Damn when I was like 13 I did a STEM club at roehampton campus it was pretty cool... are you sure they're going to close it? I can't reccomend it to my brother if they do. I guess they're focussing on art? the new Penhrine road building looks great but I heard its art foccussed.

Can you provide a source on the closing of Roehampton campus. How do you know?

My brother is performing very badly in his btec and im not sure where else he could go... any reccomendations?

Anyone?

He might get a MM in his diploma, hes struggling with adhd and other mental stuff at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:58:35 2020 No.11889538 >>11889476 Am I lying?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 05:09:55 2020 No.11889554 >>11889484 >My brother is performing very badly in his btec and im not sure where else he could go... any reccomendations? Kingston, Roehampton, Birmingham City Uni, East London

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 05:12:09 2020 No.11889556

Warwick Engineering first year who just finished exams this week. The department is shit and hanging on by a thread, the only help you get towards finding a job is "well, doesn't the name Warwick just look GREAT on applications!", and the academics in the "Build Space" are the most pretentious cunts you'll ever meet.

My plan is to finish a BEng in the next 2 years, and dip the fuck out of here for a Masters in Management or something similar.

If you're considering Warwick for Engineering, I would highly recommend against it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 05:38:01 2020 No.11889594 >>11889556 Just try to max up your CV with doing additional shit like learning a language, winning regional/nation wide awards etc. You con't need to do this if you're at Oxbridge but beyond that, it's vital.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 06:14:59 2020 No.11889627 >>11889594 I'm fluent in Russian, gonna go back to my GCSE French and maybe learn Italian too. You got any competition ideas? I don't wanna work as an engineer out of uni.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 06:22:25 2020 No.11889633

brain cocks is a shit lecturer, jeff does all the heavy lifting
the tourists lingering about fuck up the following lecture
my dept was pretty ok, i just wish my confidence at 6th form wasnt too low to even apply for oxbridge, i might have been considered given a level results and olympiad performance
>le you cant get rejected if you didnt apply faec
t. angery maths manchester grad

>>11881342
how was it? i rarely hear how it actually is to study there

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 06:49:06 2020 No.11889669 >>11889594 >>11889627 bump What kind of awards can you do. I havent started uni yet, where do I look to find the competitions? I want awards.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 06:57:51 2020 No.11889683

>>11888000
Just study EE or better yet EE/CS. Hone your programming skills on your own. Work on something now! Get an internship next year with what you've done. It's all about what you've done that will impress employers. The degree just helps you to be better at doing things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 07:02:13 2020 No.11889690 >>11888481 I was just giving what little advice I had. No need to be a dick about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 07:13:45 2020 No.11889714 >>11889690 sorry didn't mean to be rude. People often say that im rude when I didn't mean to be. Im working on it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 07:28:02 2020 No.11889743

>>11889714
That's ok man. My best advice is to compare the courses I guess. Can you become a chartered engineer at bath by doing a MEng?
Sounds like you're applying next year why not just sweat out this final year? I assume you take maths, Phys, fmaths? Just work hard to get somewhere good. Maths and physics A-level are easy as fuck. Fmaths is the only challenging A-level.
Entry grades aren't even that high for imperial engineering anyway.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 07:41:31 2020 No.11889766

>>11889627
>>11889669
I'm not sure about Engineering/what subject you're studying but I'm in the Biology related field and there's loads of 'write an essay about x' stuff where you can win awards. I don't want to doxx myself but I'm in the running for an award in one of the modules I did and I didn't even normally apply, my profs thought I was the best in the year and just put my name forward. I put this down on my LinkedIN even though I may not win (results haven't come out yet). Just google around and ask your profs for this stuff, they will know.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 09:55:41 2020 No.11889989

>>11889306
>the city really drags the Universities reputation into the ground
TV series such as Taggart didn't help much. Back when Glasgow was European City of Culture the body count reached new heights.
There is also the idea that Gorbals still exists. In reality the tenements were razed and the people moved to the periphery (Castlemilk, Maryhill etc.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 09:59:16 2020 No.11889997 >>11889594 >>11889627 >>11889669 Join the university debate forum (most universities have these) and keep in mind that the debate is secondary to the networking. Many leading British politicians of all political colours have done this.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 10:54:30 2020 No.11890107

>>11889997
My University has a debating Union.

I like to converse and "debate" but I usually don't have much to say, this society says its competitive. how can I thrive in a debating society/union?

How did you do it? how to get the networking out of it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 12:34:03 2020 No.11890325 >>11889766 is LinkedIN that important? why not just a github profile?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 12:52:26 2020 No.11890374 File: 243 KB, 680x709, yes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11886472 >did you like coming home covered in vomit and shoes all brown?

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 13:41:22 2020 No.11890551

>>11890107
>My University has a debating Union.
>I like to converse and "debate" but I usually don't have much to say,
That never stopped people, certainly not politicians...
>this society says its competitive. how can I thrive in a debating society/union?
It is a skill and can be learned like other skills. Read up on rhetoric, once one of the most important things you could study. It tells you how to structure your thoughts and arguments.
>How did you do it?
I didn't; at the time I didn't understand the importance of it. Also I was abroad and networking had less (or close to zero) impact on me.
>how to get the networking out of it?
Just learn the names of the people you meet in the debating union.

>>11890325
>is LinkedIN that important?
Yes. That is what job hunters and HR uses to save time.
>why not just a github profile?
Use both, though Github is most important for software. HR does not understand what it is. People working in a small technological company or startup will know.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 13:44:03 2020 No.11890561

>>11889766
>>11890325
>why haven't you got a Linkedin account yet, anon? You want to network, right?
I fell for the meme and made an account, but I hated the constant one-upmanship you have to deal with. Nevertheless, it was funny to read the bullshit my friends wrote on there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 14:13:05 2020 No.11890673 >>11890561 >the constant one-upmanship Which? I never noticed that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 14:39:19 2020 No.11890741 University of Exeter master race reporting in

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 14:43:42 2020 No.11890750 >>11890561 The worst ever hire I made (a female dev) is an endless source of amusement for me on LinkedIn. >passionate about writing code She was lazy enough to make a brave man weep

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 15:00:05 2020 No.11890797 >>11890673 Dickheads are obsessed with posting every micro update of their life on LinkedIn. Just constantly update your CV on it but don’t post about some bullshit tinpot award you won for being a good boy at work

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 15:21:36 2020 No.11890852 >>11890797 Some treat LinkedIn as if it were FB. I just select not to see more posts from them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 16:01:21 2020 No.11890962 >>11890797 >people unironically add coursera certificates to their profiles >>11890750 Kek, pretentious bios are an immediate red flag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 17:52:43 2020 No.11891202 >>11890551 >rhetoric by aristotle? I could only find a 100 page pdf on libgen, is that the right one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 18:27:17 2020 No.11891279 >>11891202 There are many books, not sure which is best. I just attended a lecture in rhetoric once which I have had a lot of use for since.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 18:37:01 2020 No.11891309 >>11891202 is it like 3000 words per page? some of the auto-transcribed books condense 600 page books into like 50 pages

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 19:12:39 2020 No.11891363 >>11891309 no its not that dense. its average a4 pdf density

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 19:13:46 2020 No.11891367 >>11891279 I think i'll watch as lecture or two

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 20:10:38 2020 No.11891462

>>11889484
The new Library is actually kinda shitty, it's nice, but the open plan means it's so fucking loud and it's so busy you won't find anywhere to study. The library on Kingston Hill is probably the best one.

I can't find a source, but believe me they are going to close it, maybe it will be open for the next year which would give your bro time to do his foundation degree.

Another thing I would say is your brother would probs excel at uni. I thought sixth form was the hardest fucking thing in my life, but university is easier

The only other place I could probably recommend for engineering is ARU, but that means moving out of Kingston

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 20:35:57 2020 No.11891511 >>11890741 >no chemistry department Why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 05:09:06 2020 No.11892340 >>11890741 >>11891511 exeter is far from superior. its a drama school.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 06:10:42 2020 No.11892440 How many pages do you fags at better unis write for your typical lab reports?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 06:25:08 2020 No.11892457 >>11890374 People help me. I don't like clubbing. But supposedly everyone else does. Will I make friends at Uni? I don't like getting dirty. Im planning to use Corona as an excuse to not go into densely packed places.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 06:46:52 2020 No.11892494 >>11892457 I think you will, unless you’re a complete shut in, you still got societies and events without clubbing involved

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 07:23:09 2020 No.11892544

>>11892494
I hope. I've looked at some societies im interested in and some of them mention that they're tight knit, and go out to pubs often for socials.... I don't like that either, why don't they just do the socials at the uni? I get scared by drunk people.

Do you go clubbing? how did you make friends.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 07:28:23 2020 No.11892552

>>11892457
>I don't like clubbing.
I didn't either but a little bit goes a long way.
>But supposedly everyone else does.
Probably not, there are many like you and I in academia.
>Will I make friends at Uni?
I hope so. Social interaction of some form and networking are both important for later employment. Far from the best get the jobs and from my own experiences when the redundancies knife comes down it is far from the least useful that are let go. These things are mainly determined by visibility and appearances.
>I don't like getting dirty.
Thankfully academia is not about mud wrestling.
>Im planning to use Corona as an excuse to not go into densely packed places.
Corona is expected to be with us for at least 3 years, anyone planning to survive will avoid densely packed places.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 07:40:45 2020 No.11892588

>>11892552
>Social interaction of some form and networking are both important for later employment. Far from the best get the jobs and from my own experiences when the redundancies knife comes down it is far from the least useful that are let go. These things are mainly determined by visibility and appearances.

Can you elaborate? what are yo implying one should do to maximise their potential?

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 08:18:50 2020 No.11892653

>>11892544
>Do you go clubbing? how did you make friends
Not really, gone twice and one was a birthday party and the other was a New Year’s Eve with all my friends. I don’t like clubbing but there’s plenty of events without the drinking aspect if that’s the thing that really puts you off. I have a few Muslim friends and they tell me they still have plenty of things to do even if they can’t drink. As long as you are relatively outgoing and friendly You’ll be fine.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 08:21:33 2020 No.11892660

>>11892544
you will have to go to the pub eventually
even if you only stay for a couple of pints before everyone gets bladdered, you have to
try clubbing a couple of times, even if you make up some excuse to leave early
make sure that your are everpresent
try to join some friend/study groups of people on your course, you will always have work to talk about
dont take yourself too seriously either

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 09:56:51 2020 No.11892966

>>11892588
>Can you elaborate? what are yo implying one should do to maximise their potential?
I lost my job in a company about 10 years ago. I was relaxed (more relaxed than I should have been) and was confident in getting a new job. That took quite a while and it sure didn't help that people told me that with good degrees like mine I should get a new job in zero time. It turned out I had insufficient network. I was passed over for jobs several times, even by people who had not even completed their degrees!

I also looked close at who lost their jobs in this blood bath and who kept theirs. Plenty of top skilled people were axed, some even with skill sets that few have in the entire country. Yet what does that help when HR does not understand, management could not care and project leaders think they are fully fungible? Two colleagues worked long hours with closed doors, delivered the goods - and lost their jobs.

As technical guys it is too easy to think that skills and knowledge are what counts. In reality both come way down on the list that counts to get a job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:40:37 2020 No.11893139 >ranking of his uni matters for his job prospects Medfag reporting in

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