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/sfg/ Spaceflight General Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:54:00 2020 No.11873255 [Reply] [Original]

Moonman Edition
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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:55:43 2020 No.11873259 enjoy, gentlemen https://apollo17.org/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:56:55 2020 No.11873264 Fuck urf

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:59:03 2020 No.11873273 >>11873259 ebine

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:59:20 2020 No.11873275 File: 26 KB, 552x556, images (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873264 Based

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:00:17 2020 No.11873278 >>11873259 That's impressive.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:01:45 2020 No.11873280

>In one example, early tests resulted in some of the booster rocket's O-rings burning a third of the way through. These O-rings provided the gas-tight seal needed between the vertically stacked cylindrical sections that made up the solid fuel booster. NASA managers recorded this result as demonstrating that the O-rings had a "safety factor" of 3

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:05:02 2020 No.11873288 >>11873280 These "people" should have been flayed alive and their skinless corpses strung up for public display. And I'm a person who expects large casualties in early colonisation. This shit however is inexcusable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:07:45 2020 No.11873296 File: 41 KB, 922x740, Comparison_of_Lander_Sizes_-_Direct_vs_LOR.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] chad DIRECT LANDING when?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:09:39 2020 No.11873299 File: 375 KB, 960x538, 1589424907101.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873264 and fuck california

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:10:07 2020 No.11873302 >>11873296 With starship, but much bigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:12:34 2020 No.11873315 File: 102 KB, 1920x1080, mr29elodr8w41.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could lunar starships carry like 750 people each for moon holidays?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:14:04 2020 No.11873318 >>11871852 cost plus has its place it's useful for pursuing very experimental stuff that can run into unexpected problems the devil is in the details, i.e. not setting limits on how much you're gonna pay after original cost is passed and the like

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:16:22 2020 No.11873323 File: 1.04 MB, 2639x2901, 49954217792_0b9c21f62b_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] burn baby burn disco inferno

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:17:04 2020 No.11873325

>>11873315
Probably less unless you send two starships because you need to carry supplies for however long the vacation is plus space for each person, and tourists are going to want a lot of personal space, privacy, personal bathrooms, etc. Tourist Starship would have a lot of its volume taken up with "luxury" amenities to make space travel comfortable for normies/billionaires who have the cash to afford the ticket.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:27:29 2020 No.11873340

>>11873325
This is assuming there is already a moonbase to arrive and stay at. It would only be 2-3 days transit each way, and people are already ok with bunkbed hostels. 700 people at 120kg total weight limit each for something like a 10 day moon excursion would be 84 tons, more than enough for extra stuff. Can reduce passenger number by a dozen and still make a few of the rooms 5 star for richfags

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:51:25 2020 No.11873395 How many gays have we sent to space so far? Is space inclusive enough?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:53:44 2020 No.11873400 >>11873395 at least one, who also committed the first space crime

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:57:55 2020 No.11873414 have they tested the engine yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:01:49 2020 No.11873425 >>11873315 more like 50

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:10:12 2020 No.11873438 File: 111 KB, 800x1067, 800px-LIU_Yang_CUHK_2012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] she cute for a chink

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:11:20 2020 No.11873440 >>11873315 There's no fucking way you could land the tall ass Starship with no support legs on soft, uneven ground without crashing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:12:26 2020 No.11873444 File: 3.61 MB, 6145x7681, Kate_Rubins_EMU_Portrait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] imagine the testosterone

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:16:14 2020 No.11873449 File: 17 KB, 220x275, 220px-Sally_Ride_(1984).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873400 there was another one too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:19:43 2020 No.11873464 >>11873425 >2000kg weight allocation each I meant non-americans desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:26:55 2020 No.11873480 TESLA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:45:10 2020 No.11873517 >>11873501 how do you make it back to australia then

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:52:27 2020 No.11873533 >>11873517 Just annoy some brits, they'll send you there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:02:03 2020 No.11873546 aerospike engines...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:03:19 2020 No.11873547 File: 1.79 MB, 2089x1080, yqQh0TQ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873327 yes, there's a couple different parts mods that have all the pieces or you can do the same thing with procedural tanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:07:56 2020 No.11873557 >>11873517 Why would anyone want to go back to Australia?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:33:05 2020 No.11873609 Now that I rewatched the hatch opening, did Doug really wounded his forehead with taht bump? LMAO

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:38:45 2020 No.11873626 File: 1.09 MB, 520x293, Canned lol.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873533 Gee that was bad! People went into "the book" for less.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:45:07 2020 No.11873640 File: 10 KB, 321x220, TSLA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm fairly certain that Tesla stock has inherited Elon's autism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:51:04 2020 No.11873654 >>11873628 clean that shit up elon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:53:51 2020 No.11873661 >>11873628 what am I looking at?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:55:15 2020 No.11873665 >>11873661 dragon freckles she looked so smooth from afar

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:55:20 2020 No.11873667 >>11873640 Almost pulled the trigger at 400 a couple months ago... fuck you elon.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:59:36 2020 No.11873677

>>11873318
The issue with space flight and cost plus is that critical space flight knowledge has become somewhat esoteric over the years due to how limited the industry is relatively speaking. A contractor can easily spin up some seemingly complicated overblown issue to demand more money and get away with it, because the government doesn't have enough independent evaluators to make an honest judgement. That's how you get 10 years and over $20B to develop a propellant tank using preexisting technology.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:21:29 2020 No.11873727 >>11873299 >they're actually entering cali sounds about right for a boomer /pol/ meme

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:28:35 2020 No.11873741 >>11873628 >Drills it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:38:50 2020 No.11873760 >>11873667 same, I believe the company does and will do well but stocks are usually disconnected from that, especially thanks to his twitter. REEEE now i'm too broke to even get 1 share

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:50:01 2020 No.11873778 >>11873250 Cursed image

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:50:59 2020 No.11873783 LEO traffic controller here, state your spacecraft callsign

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:53:12 2020 No.11873790 >>11873783 (D)ROU "No Reason To Get Excited"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:53:26 2020 No.11873791 >>11873783 Orbital Brothel reporting in

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:57:03 2020 No.11873798 >>11873783 American Spaceflights 2502 requesting for deorbit burn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 12:59:09 2020 No.11873804 >>11873783 Kek imagine being a spacepilot having to go through space traffic controllers then air traffic controllers when you reach close to sea level

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:00:01 2020 No.11873806 >>11873438 She numba won if she love me long time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:00:21 2020 No.11873807 >>11873783 >"Propellant Depot, this is Untitled Spacecraft requesting docking permission. Serial number LCV-24-0458."

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:01:10 2020 No.11873809 >>11873783 Six Millions Weren't Enough on approach vector.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:01:32 2020 No.11873811 >>11873783 Thanks Doc over

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:03:46 2020 No.11873819 >>11873798 Unless you want to land in the middle of africa, you'll have to continue orbiting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:04:27 2020 No.11873821 >>11873783 >LEO traffic controller, this is DROP TABLE ship_manifest; approaching. Hello?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:06:19 2020 No.11873826 >>11873809 Unless you give me your actual callsign, I'll call the spaceforce for an intercept

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:23:25 2020 No.11873860 File: 150 KB, 1080x770, 1593797074433.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So is electron kill

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:24:21 2020 No.11873863 >>11873783 GSS I'd Just Like To Interject For A Moment

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:26:35 2020 No.11873869 >>11873863 GSS? (Sounds Cultured)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:30:55 2020 No.11873882 File: 376 KB, 800x600, 1588521331465.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873869 Gentoo Space Ship

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:35:29 2020 No.11873896 >>11873783 ahem FUCK SPACE JANNIES

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:38:25 2020 No.11873903 >>11873783 SWS Musky Hus- errm I mean Federal Trade Ship Inconspicuous... owo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:42:23 2020 No.11873924 >>11873903 Furry Elon is canon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:47:15 2020 No.11873942 >>11873924 >Elon journeys into the void with some of his followers after settling Mars >wants to "make mankind an interstellar species" >disappears for years >he comes back as warchief of the Space Wolves >wants to reclaim Mars Cursed timeline?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:47:21 2020 No.11873945
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>>11873783
LEO Approach, this is Spaceforce alpha-niner-zero-zero-two, two hundred kilometers out and plus or minus one degree off your orbital inclination, requesting approach guidance and permission to dock. Hull number VCS-9.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:47:58 2020 No.11873948 >>11873464 it's volume limited I think 1000 people in airliner style seats for a few hours

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:50:05 2020 No.11873957 File: 1.20 MB, 2600x721, indo86dnejf31.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873924 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1113545297311948803?lang=en

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:55:31 2020 No.11873986 >>11873727 It’s an invasion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:57:04 2020 No.11873992 >>11873942 Elon Musk will uncover the Primordial Truth during his exodus into the great darkness, and return to spread the word of Chaos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:58:02 2020 No.11873996 >>11873992 The Primordial Truth about what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:59:53 2020 No.11874005 >>11873783 This is SEV-1 Skidbladnir requesting reentry vector

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:01:35 2020 No.11874014 >>11873996 the word of chaos, duh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:03:12 2020 No.11874025 >>11873996 https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Pilgrimage

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:09:14 2020 No.11874043 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am7EwmxBAW8 Cool vid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:25:07 2020 No.11874085 Which will fly first, Nauka or SLS?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:27:15 2020 No.11874087 >>11873996 Traps are gay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:28:21 2020 No.11874090 >>11874085 Starship flies a test payload of American flags and statues to Mars before either reaches orbit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:38:21 2020 No.11874115 >>11874090 Statues of whom?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:39:53 2020 No.11874122 >>11874115 elons souldog

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:40:36 2020 No.11874125 >>11874090 >Sitting in your Mars house reading about how SLS is delayed again

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:45:00 2020 No.11874142 File: 70 KB, 948x576, Statue_of_Elon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11874115 Elon from anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:47:48 2020 No.11874151 >>11874115 Elon Musk, George Washington, and Adam Smith.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:49:43 2020 No.11874161 >>11873908 You could easily go mach 10 with it if you went high enough,though i'm unsure how much of a fuel fraction you can get with hydrolox in a jet fighter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:49:55 2020 No.11874162 File: 2.87 MB, 1920x1080, KSP_x64 2020-07-06 11-49-03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this gemini IVA is pretty comfy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:52:24 2020 No.11874173 >>11874162 I think you might have a hull breach below that viewing port anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:53:30 2020 No.11874180 >>11874173 dont worry thats why we wear pressure suits

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:15:04 2020 No.11874248 File: 114 KB, 1000x1000, 0243458.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11874087 based

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:22:04 2020 No.11874271
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>>11874125
>4ASS establishes a colony on Mars to build all the goofy launch systems SpaceX isn't bothering with
>meme sails, mass drivers, booze boosters, etc.
>4SS Cirno frozen-frog sleeper ship reaches Ceres before SLS Block 2 makes it off the test stand at Michoud

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:31:53 2020 No.11874296 >>11874271 >You get a sensible chuckle at the news while in the background /out/ists and /k/ommandos try to kill monstrously mutated organisms you were trying to grow with railguns and person-sized swords

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:32:18 2020 No.11874301 >>11873783 Yankee Echo Echo Tango requesting permission to start main Nuclear Salt Water Rocket

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:34:29 2020 No.11874310
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Congrats! You are now the lead designer of NASA’s next planetary exploration mission. However the budget is incredibly tight and you only have $100 million including launch costs. But you have free range to send the mission ANYWHERE in the solar system.

What would your mission be, and where would you send it?

>For me, id do a cubesat-derived lander for Mars’ polar cap that would do a “hard landing” and use the impact force to deploy a subsurface probe to measure water and look for life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:39:15 2020 No.11874322 File: 1.40 MB, 1600x1000, final_fantasy_vii_logo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11874296 Isn't that basically the plot of Final Fantasy VII and a description of the main party?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:41:15 2020 No.11874329 Why are Germans useless at rocket innovation now?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:43:19 2020 No.11874332

>>11874310
>$100 million including launch costs
Well that basically means reusable Falcon Heavy and a shoestring smallsat budget. I'd go with the 10cm Plasma Magnet Sail demo mission and do a Triton lander.

>>11874329
The Allies killed or captured their entire intellectual base in 1945.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:46:02 2020 No.11874342 >>11874332 So Von Braun et al from Peenemunde was a generational fluke? Is "German engineering" a meme?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:52:21 2020 No.11874360 >>11874342 Yes, Germans are inherently autistic, not inherently brilliant. You can actually look at WW2 for some of the worst clusterfucks of "German engineering". After all there is such a thing as over-engineering something, I'm reminded of SLS.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:58:19 2020 No.11874377

>>11874342
>Is "German engineering" a meme?
They're usually very good, but they have no upper bound on acceptable complexity. This and the Apollo era "damn the costs, just get it done quickly" mindset created the cultural baseline for oldspace. Radical simplification of existing processes and garage-building stuff is a much more anglo tradition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:08:15 2020 No.11874418 >>11874377 Interesting, aren't SpaceX's heads of propulsion and manufacturing both English? Plus there's Elon himself of course

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:09:38 2020 No.11874423 >>11874418 Shotwell is of English stock too, maiden name Rowley.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:19:49 2020 No.11874456 >>11873255 >someone actually transcribed hundreds of hours of moon mission dialogue Jesus.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:34:55 2020 No.11874490

>>11873280
Oh god. I thought the earliest warning was when they recovered one and it showed that it almost RUD'ed because of those fucking things.
Fucking hell. So it was really all out on the table before they ever even launched anything.
I mean, I know that all the other shit that would ever go wrong was already well known before any Shuttle would ever launch. But I didn't know that they also knew that the O-rings were this shitty as well. I really thought that was one thing they had just simply missed. Although looking I don't know why I ever would've thought that.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:39:26 2020 No.11874499

>>11874490
Reminder:
>One report describes the crew as "infuriated" that Mission Control seemed unconcerned. When Commander Gibson saw the damage he thought to himself, "We are going to die", and did not believe that the shuttle would survive reentry; if instruments indicated that the shuttle was disintegrating, he planned to "tell mission control what I thought of their analysis" in the remaining seconds before his death.
Space Shuttle program was a deathtrap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:41:04 2020 No.11874504 >>11874499 The Buran had safer tiles and could land itself using 80s tech.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:43:33 2020 No.11874510 >>11874504 it also didn't lug useless big engines to orbit. and the launcher stack could be configured for big payloads without the orbiter

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:43:45 2020 No.11874511 >>11874504 The Shuttle was 70s tech.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:43:49 2020 No.11874512 >>11874504 And the "booster" could be used independently. A real shame America didn't just buy the program or tech from the ruskies, could have saved lives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:49:10 2020 No.11874526 >>11873783 This is the USSF Donald Trump, requesting ground speed check.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:51:11 2020 No.11874533

>>11873860
Yes. The engine that worked like 10 times in a row? They burned all the blueprints and all the engineers went home afterwards and shot themselves. It was a nice dream while it lasted. But as it turned out, space is just too hard for private companies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:51:59 2020 No.11874541 >>11874533 Shelby pls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:52:02 2020 No.11874542 Honestly at this point I think the Shuttle was just a way to trick the rooskies into wasting what was left of Roscosmos' time and money on a lemon launcher to contribute to crashing the commie economy with no survivors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:55:31 2020 No.11874551 >>11874542 Do you even now anything about the NASA&ROSCOSMOS relations? Or how much money the US has spend so far to keep russian rocket engineers working at roscosmos? Please educate yourself before you bring down the quality of the thread like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:56:38 2020 No.11874555 >>11874271 Imagine being a martian citizen with an interest in rocketry as a hobby. Imagine what you could do with basic shit in that kind of gravity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:59:44 2020 No.11874561 >>11874512 How does Energiyjyjijyijyja actually stack up to the SLS?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:02:49 2020 No.11874569 >>11874561 Энepгия actually beats SLS Block 1 by 5000kg/5.5 tons of payload, which is fucking hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:13:29 2020 No.11874591 File: 443 KB, 2552x2780, 1589091861112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11874569 God, SLS is such a joke.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:24:51 2020 No.11874626

>>11874591
It's doubly funny because Energia is constructed based around a relatively similar vehicle idea too. It's a very large LOX/LH2 core stage propelled through the lower atmosphere by powerful lower ISP drop-away boosters. I'd guess though that the reason for the slight superiority of Energia is due to it's boosters being LOX/Kerosene, which will edge out SRBs in efficiency.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:30:55 2020 No.11874653
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>>11874310
Cubesat flyby of an interstellar comet. The spacecraft would include a camera and atmosphere sampling equipment. Would probably require a solid kick stage ($20-30M) on top of an expendable Falcon 9 ($62M). Not much data would be taken, so a modest solar power supply would be enough for telemetry and instrument operations.
Anyone know how much the Near-Earth Asteroid Scout (pictured) costs? It's a co-manifested SLS payload that I didn't know about until just now and seems pretty close to my idea.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:43:25 2020 No.11874691 >>11874654 This is haram* *(absolutely haram)

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:47:19 2020 No.11874701
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>>11874591
It's only a joke because it's taking so long to launch. If it actually launched before or shortly after the Falcon Heavy, then it would just be an unfortunate but useful stopgap rocket.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:53:47 2020 No.11874715 >>11874654 >Superheavy lands on drone ship "Lemme get that for you"

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:03:28 2020 No.11874744
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I was watching '89 movie Leviathan, it's about deepsea mining that starts out a lot like Aliens.
So... naturally I made the connection to space and how cool it would be if we could do that in KSP as well, specially after having played SOMA earlier this year.
Then I was thinking that Spacecraft aren't subs, so I was figuring, how deep could a Mercury, Gemini, Apollo capsule/ a shuttle, eva suits or the ISS dive if we made them heavy enough...
I mean NASA was training EVA in a pool, for whatever that means.
And now I'm thinking about Pandorrum, I have to watch that tonight as well now, god dammit!

Back on point, yea how do spacecraft handle reverse design outside pressure? I mean half of them have to reenter the atmosphere, so they have to be capable...

Also KSP2 needs a space horror dlc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:14:32 2020 No.11874785 >>11874744 >how do spacecraft handle reverse design outside pressure? Aerodynamics mostly.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:16:09 2020 No.11874790

>>11874744
Not very favorably, remember that spacecraft only need to hold a maximum of 1 bar of pressure inside, and usually they operate far lower than that to conserve breathing gas. They're also generally still designed to be as light as possible while holding up to stresses imparted during max-Q (which hovers around .3 bar for most vehicles) and to resist thermal stresses.
Now I'm fairly certain that if you buttoned up a capsule and just submerged it into like ten meters of water it would be fine, they are after all designed to be gas tight, but they wouldn't make good submersibles. Submersibles and diving bells are built extremely heavy and strong, and it works to their advantage as submersible vehicles because they are engineered on purpose to sink easily.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:19:43 2020 No.11874800
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>>11874744
The reason most ships can't exactly become submarines is because they have to be really lightweight to fly, which prevents them from having enough mass to survive the heavy pressure of the ocean. Until fusion engines (or some other stupidly high thrust engine design) are a thing, we won't have ships dunking deep into the sea. Oh and of course, corrosion. That needs a permanent solution.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:21:13 2020 No.11874805 >>11874744 the spacecraft could get "infected" and the horrors meld with the computer somehow and travel back to kerbin and infect the whole planet, so your spacecraft need to self-destruct if they get overwhelmed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:23:10 2020 No.11874811 Dumb question I guess, but if someone were to figure out a way to have compact cold fusion (i.e. it could fit in a spacecraft like starship and generate a fuckload of power) could this same device also be reconfigured as a really good engine. If so how

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>>11874790
That's insightful, thanks.
Don't know why I though that spacecraft were so overbuilt, but with that knowledge, would picrelated be possible then, or at least feasible with a reasonable amount of reengineering?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:24:40 2020 No.11874816

>>11874744
if you want more 'alien' aesthetics, as in very clunky 80's tech and blocky decor, check out this film. The story is kinda meh, space cop on an Io colony and overall inspired by an old spaghetti western, and some of the CGI at certain points, very dated, but the whole set design and environment landscapes are great, bladerunner-like panning shots of set miniatures

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:25:25 2020 No.11874820 File: 531 KB, 1024x768, kraken_attack_by_y0rshee-d8o1pe9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11874805 Half of it is already there... Is the Kraken canon btw?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:25:44 2020 No.11874823 File: 859 KB, 1255x1733, am_79u52615y3bt7wm86_1300x1733.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11874816 forgot the image lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:27:02 2020 No.11874828 >>11874816 >space cop on an Io colony Do you mean outland? I think you forgot the file^^

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:28:02 2020 No.11874834 >>11874816 Outland is fan-fucking-tastic. I might SBS a browning 2000 just because of it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:28:03 2020 No.11874835 >>11874823 >>11874828 nevermind, will give it a shot be cause I can barely remember it. I also L

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:28:03 2020 No.11874836

A question and a curiosity.

The merlin is pretty dirty - fuel rich, and after flights one or several needs cleanings and occasionally to be replaced.

Raptor running on methane and lox, will it need the same level of maintenance or can you expect much more reliable and far longer life times in between maintenance cycles?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:30:03 2020 No.11874847

>>11873255
Could there be a sudden and unexpected breakthrough in our understanding of the universe that leads to the rapid development of practical interstellar travel. Similar to the creation of the transistor leading to exponential technology growth. What are the odds of this happening. Our models of the universe have a lot of holes in them so I figure there could be some fundamental thing missing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:32:56 2020 No.11874863 >>11874847 >so I figure there could be some fundamental thing missing Funding lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:35:27 2020 No.11874869 >>11874847 Something like manipulating gravity would be huge. But realistically, no probably not.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:36:19 2020 No.11874872
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>>11874836
Musk plans to have the raptor be so reliable, it only needs minor cleaning and checkups after each flight. He plans for starship to be as commonly used as commercial airliners.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:36:57 2020 No.11874875 >>11873440 This. It will become a huge problem and may need a landing site to be built

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:37:26 2020 No.11874877

>>11874836
They wanted it to be much easier to inspect and maintain from the outset, guess methane would probably burn cleaner than RP1 anyway, and the whole full flow staged combustion thing might make a difference. Only time will tell for now though if it is actually better since they are more focused on scaling up manufacturing of everything rather than going for tons of flight tests

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:39:07 2020 No.11874880 >>11874875 if they can get at least some dedicated missions to the ground, will probably be one of the first things they do

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:40:32 2020 No.11874884
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>>11874815
Well, there are definitely certain parts of spacecraft that are overbuilt, windows actually being one of them, they have to stand up to a lot of heat in direct sunlight, the equivalent of being baked constantly in an oven at 600 degrees here in Earth's orbit. They also have to offer significant UV protection so that people looking out into direct sunlight aren't blinded by the undiminished radiance of the sun. As a result space windows are often polished quartz or borosilicate glass and extremely thicc. It is however completely possible to have large windows on a spacecraft, you could have some kind of small pod with a large and expansive set of windows where the pilot can have a broad field of view. I doubt though that it would have car controls, since they aren't ideal at all for 3D movement.
>>11874836
It will be a much cleaner burn for two reasons. Firstly the full flow staged combustion cycle strives to rip as much energy out of it's propellants as possible by preburning both into fuel and oxidizer rich gasses before they even reach the main combustion chamber. Ideally an FFSC engine will perfectly consume both the fuel and oxidizer so that practically nothing is left over to deposit inside the engine. The second reason is the type of fuel used, Methane is much less complicated compared to high-purity Kerosene, this means there are fewer combustion biproducts and thus much less soot or carbon to build up in the engine.
Raptors will still need regular inspection and semi-regular cleaning and maintenance, but their fuel cycle greatly reduces this compared to LOX/Kerosene rockets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:51:31 2020 No.11874906 >>11874884 This is why a moon base is so useful. I wonder if there's a possibility for manufacturing on the moon or other low gravity celestial bodies to reduce the cost of escaping orbit.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:56:09 2020 No.11874919 File: 9 KB, 243x207, 43352.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11874909 >main separation bolts didn't work if only

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:57:30 2020 No.11874923 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_manufacturing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_the_Moon

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>>11874884
Man, you seem to be really knowledgeable. Thanks for taking the time and entertaining my brainfart.
>I doubt though that it would have car controls, since they aren't ideal at all for 3D movement.
I could add two axis for rotation and it'd be fine. linear XYZ could be flappy pedals, I guess. Not pedals tho, you still need the clutch because it's a manual.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:02:37 2020 No.11874939
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>>11874906
Well, it will be important long term, but even a small factory is an enormous thing, establishing that much pressurized volume on the Moon and then filling it with low-gravity optimized factory machinery will take substantial time. Even with regular Starship flights it will probably take a substantial amount of time to establish a factory. For now I'd think it will be more important to get a greater number and variety of cheap superheavy lifters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:27:43 2020 No.11875013 >>11874823 >the only law in space is a white man Yeah okay this is why there shouldn't be space exploration. You fucking racist will just colonize space.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:30:12 2020 No.11875017 >>11875013 Weak bait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:30:14 2020 No.11875018 >>11874923 Oh no don’t get the geologists excited, especially if they’re on their 6th beer

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:34:45 2020 No.11875033 >>11875018 I’ve been reading about rare earth metal mineral deposits recently. Would be neat to find gallium on the moon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:39:10 2020 No.11875052 >>11874939 >For now I'd think it will be more important to get a greater number and variety of cheap superheavy lifters. Fully reusable superheavy lifters are 20 years away everywhere but the US. Maybe ULA can get their shit together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:40:07 2020 No.11875054 >>11875033 But gallium isn't a rare earth element? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_element

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:49:16 2020 No.11875086 >>11875054 It isn’t, but it’s produced as a low-concentration byproduct of zinc and aluminum mining, so it may be difficult to track down elsewhere. Thortveitite would be an example of a real rare earth element ore. It yields both scandium and Yttrium.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:50:50 2020 No.11875088
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Which company you guys think is gonna end up being WeyYu aka "the company"?

Google, Apple? Honeywell, Samsung, Toyota? Maybe a Bank?
I was really vouching for IBM when I was a kid because they'd be a cool as hell evil megacompany with the old school cassette punk logo, their nonchalant Product design, 3rd Reich involvement... but I don't see that happening anymore.
Oldspace defence contractors or spaceX would be rad too, but I'm not sure.

Any takes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:52:39 2020 No.11875093 >>11875088 Bayer would be peak evil. also these dubs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:53:20 2020 No.11875096 >>11875088 Maybe Blue Origin if they got their shit together, or WTO would pull strings to be the evil shadow corporation if anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:53:44 2020 No.11875098 >>11875088 I’ll take a megacorporation over socialism any day of the week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:57:46 2020 No.11875112 >>11875088 I mean Google pretty much already is that, except we don't even get cool tech out of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:59:54 2020 No.11875120 How well will starlink phased array antenna work at sea? I'm thinking about moving onto my sailboat full time and the Internet aspect sucks at the moment. I understand that it can deal with horizontal traverse no problem but what about roll?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:01:32 2020 No.11875131

>>11875086
Also, rare earths aren't even rare. We've had rare earth mines shut down in the US because we can't compare with China when they don't care about poisoning the land for miles around. There's no point in getting them from the moon to use on earth.
But yeah, I do want to see us find more than "derrr it's mostly basalt". The fucking moon is right there in front of us where we can remote control a rover directly, and it seems like most of the rovers sent there have just been countries trying to prove that they can moon too, some of them not so well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:01:51 2020 No.11875134 File: 1.59 MB, 1680x1050, screenshot732.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] NTR Aerospike Starship+Superheavy 1000t+ to orbit,reusable. Starship alone has like 500.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:03:04 2020 No.11875139

>>11875052
>20 years away
I'd even say that's generous for every country except China, they at least are well known for pushing ahead large projects rapidly, results, consequences, and human cost be damned.
Every other country with the industry and technology to have a modern space program seems like they'd rather spend that money on worthless shit.
>>11875134
Cool, but ultra-heavy lift rockets are generally very fat, not very tall.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:03:29 2020 No.11875141
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>>11875093
>>11875098
>I’ll take a megacorporation over socialism any day of the week.
I dunno man, with a token government there's at least the illusion of a hummane system... but I guess that can change as well and Soviet union was pretty Empire of Man in that regard as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:05:05 2020 No.11875146 >>11873438 China space agency has pretty cool astronaut uniforms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:05:12 2020 No.11875147 >>11875098 >so long as the boot is private its a-ok Lolbert reveals his final form

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:07:07 2020 No.11875152

>>11873667
Lol me too anon. But I would only have been able to afford like one or two stocks, I didn't lose out on that much money. I'm in it for the long haul anyway, just started investing this year and I'm steadily building up my roth IRA with index funds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:08:08 2020 No.11875160 >>11873760 I'm sure the stock will dip back down at some point, tesla is pretty volatile. Maybe we'll have a chance to get back in at 800.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:11:36 2020 No.11875175 >>11875139 >Cool, but ultra-heavy lift rockets are generally very fat, not very tall. >tfw haven't seen a 35 meter diameter monster rocket launch

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:13:17 2020 No.11875182

>>11875088
Amazon would already be "the company" if they weren't run by rainbow-haired pussies and BO had working rockets. All they'd be missing is an arms division and acquiring a couple of local Seattle companies for ground transportation.

>>11875134
Holy fuck. Lightbulb or extra fancy solid core?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:13:32 2020 No.11875183

>>11875141
>with a token government there's at least the illusion of a humane system.
Yes, the government orders you to tell your neighbors and outsiders that the system is human or they'll devalue your social credit score till you lose too many social credits and vanish mysteriously in the middle of the night. Your "friends" and neighbors will deny you ever existed or their social credit scores will also be docked.
The thing about corporations is that to get into one you have to consent, and excepting really shitty borderline illegally worded examples, you can leave if you get sick of their shit without much baggage. Of course that starts to get murky once they cozy up to semi-socialist governments and start buying corrupt politicians.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:23:59 2020 No.11875211 Can anyone help me play kerbal? I have severe difficulty with the training. I want to send rocket to space but alot of things go wrong. Me dont know alot aboit gravity pressure armospjere Help please

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:28:31 2020 No.11875225 File: 56 KB, 1300x864, 1587285917409.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875211 basically, do this. Not straight up, but up and around

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:29:47 2020 No.11875229 >>11875211 also once you hit 70k height, you are high enough and can go direct 90 degrees to gain enough speed to orbit

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:30:45 2020 No.11875232

>>11875088
It's a company that doesn't exist yet. Somebody is going to get a massive lead in lunar mining/manufacturing through cutthroat tactics and outright sabotage of competitors, earning them a gigantic cut of future deep space industry.
I'm aiming to be that somebody, but we'll see.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:32:29 2020 No.11875238
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>>11875183
At some scale it doesn't matter if you call it a socialist government or the company and discourse over this minor detail will be redundant or... you know, illegal/breach of contract^^
Funfact, here in Germany the ID is called "Personal-ausweis" That's Personnel ID, like every German was an employee.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:33:19 2020 No.11875242 >>11875211 Nigga, just point your rocket up, then point it sideways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:34:31 2020 No.11875245 >>11875242 I do but then spin like bayblade. I put 75 pressure 1000m then it spin

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:35:34 2020 No.11875248 >>11875229 70k as in metets or air preddure

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:36:40 2020 No.11875256 >>11875225 Damn imagine swimming in that lake while watching the rocket take off

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:37:15 2020 No.11875258 >>11875248 meters

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:37:31 2020 No.11875260
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>>11875211
Play the tutorials, if that doesn't help, play the tutorials while watching somebody Let's Play the tutorials.

I did that too, when my English wasn't that good.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:38:21 2020 No.11875263
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>>11875211
1: Your rocket must have a minimum of 3400m/s of delta-V to achieve LKO.
2: To get up off the ground your rocket must have a thrust-to-weight ratio exceeding 1. I tend to shoot for a TWR of 3.
3: Your center of aerodynamic control should be behind your center of mass at all times, you'll know it isn't if your rocket tends to flip backwards in flight.
4: If you aren't using one of the autopilot mods, you should include RCS packs near the nose and tail of your rocket and use them and SAS to help keep the rocket stable and also tilt it once it's in vacuum.
5: Gradually turn the rocket over to the right of the launch pad once it's a kilometer up, by the time you clear the atmosphere you should be close to horizontal.
6: Once you're above the atmosphere check the map and see if your apoapsis is at least 80km. If it is, once you reach that level point your nose at the open green circle that looks like a crosshair, or turn your SAS to "prograde" and burn at least until the screen wobbles and flips around. Check your map to see if your periapsis is 80 kilometers or more, if so, congrats you're in orbit.

Here's a delta-V map, plan your rocket design around how much delta-V it will cost to get to where you want to go and the functions you want it to have when it gets there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:39:42 2020 No.11875268 >>11875245 Your center of mass and center of aerodynamic control are too high up on the rocket, I've had this happen to me before. You need to make your rocket more ass heavy, or put more fins down near the base of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:42:18 2020 No.11875274 >>11875088 BasedX once they get Starlink running.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:43:04 2020 No.11875278
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>>11875245
>I put 75 pressure 1000m then it spin
Add more winglets to the lowest part of the rocket, you probably have too much aerodynamic drag high up or your center of gravity is shagged. Either get rid of that, or add winglets.
If it happens higher up, you can cheat with rcs or us a gimballed engine in that stage.

I once had a rocket that always went off corse because the 2 fucking solar panes i mounted to the payload on one site were causing a shitton of lift for some reason, negating several m2 of winglets, rcs and counter weight and gyroscopes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:44:07 2020 No.11875282 >>11875278 edit think of it like a dart

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:45:16 2020 No.11875289 >>11875260 I cant get pass advanced rocket construction

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:46:54 2020 No.11875295 >>11875182 Solid for the lower stage,gas core for the upper. >>11875139 I know but most kerbal parts top out at 10m.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:46:58 2020 No.11875296 >>11873667 Fuuuuuuccckkk. I could have put 30k into Tesla when was in the 300s a few months ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:48:07 2020 No.11875299 >>11875295 >Not using procedurals combined with VAB enlarger to create giant THIC rockets. Stock part lineup gay.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:48:14 2020 No.11875301
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>>11875274
I dunno man, they are in the field and do the things, but they are still relatively small and more importantly if feels like they don't have the connections. That all can change, but they don't feel evil and ruthless enough. yet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:48:50 2020 No.11875303 >>11873783 SS General Lee

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:49:16 2020 No.11875306 >>11875289 are you playing carer mode?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:50:40 2020 No.11875315

>>11875183
>Be living on Mars
>Eating in the food court
>You have a hard time eating a particular set of sprouts after everything else
>Think you can sneak it off to the autowash before anyone notices
>Suddenly, the telescreen comes on with an image of an older woman leering at you
>"Anon, we both know you got to clean your plate every meal. Oh how those starving Cerians would kill to have just what you were about to waste."
>You reluctantly stomach down the spouts and be on your way
>"Good."
>As they always say, Big Mother is watching

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:51:13 2020 No.11875319 >>11875147 >Communist can’t say anything without lying. I said it was preferable, not ideal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:51:55 2020 No.11875321 >>11875306 I cant get past training mission 5 so i started career, first ship launchrd eell but then also spinned but landed safely

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:52:54 2020 No.11875324

>>11875301
Elon understands infrastructure. Tesla started with a charging network, everyone else is just now realizing they should start. SpaceX will be in a position to monopolize space infrastructure to a much greater degree. Other parties will definitely play a part but I definitely see SpaceX only growing its influence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:53:02 2020 No.11875325 >>11875319 >socialism=communism This is your brain on lolbertarianism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:53:51 2020 No.11875327 >>11875147 The private boot is voluntary and will leave you alone. The government boot feels obligated to step on you at all times. Even when it thinks it is benevolent. You can only choose a different government boot, and never no govt boot at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:54:11 2020 No.11875329 >>11875325 Call it what you like. It’s leftist evil I want no part in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:54:21 2020 No.11875330 File: 651 KB, 1540x1155, IMG_20200707_025053.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873783 Acasta 1-1July Or jus "Shady"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:54:39 2020 No.11875331 >>11875321 If you need training do science mode and get comfortable with the parts bits by bit as you learn how to fly.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:56:49 2020 No.11875340

>>11875131
> Also, rare earths aren't even rare

Sure, but economically exploitable deposits are uncommon.

> There's no point in getting them from the moon to use on earth.

Perhaps; perhaps not, but they’ll be necessary for local electronics production .

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:57:01 2020 No.11875341 >>11875327 >The private boot is voluntary and will leave you alone Are you delusional?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:58:36 2020 No.11875344 >>11875329 >noooooooooo you can't just use taxes to fund public projects that's literally evil >socialism is always left wing Ok buddy, keep that hegelian dialect going in your mind, shows how smoothbrained you are.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:02:03 2020 No.11875353

>>11875340
>local electronics production
That's why I said what I said.
Also, I noticed that you are putting a lot of extra blank lines in your messages, and quoting in an odd way. Here is a protip: select some text in a message and click on the message number to reply to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:02:48 2020 No.11875356 >>11875344 >noooooooooo you can't just use taxes to fund public projects that's literally evil Yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:05:49 2020 No.11875364 >>11875356 This general wouldn't even exist if taxes weren't used to fund the space program in the early days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:11:33 2020 No.11875382 >>11875364 Appealing to tradition, are we? Government is a horribly inefficient bureaucratic nightmare that wastes money on nonsense like welfare. That a limited one has utility doesn’t excuse evil excesses like socialism, communism, or fascism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:13:35 2020 No.11875390 >>11875344 >socialism is always left wing It is by definition. Being racist isn’t “right wing”.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:14:13 2020 No.11875391 >>11875364 You mean the space program that is now roundly criticized for it's useless politicking, nightmare bureaucracy, and stupendous amounts of inefficiency?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:14:36 2020 No.11875393
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>>11875321
In carrer you have to upgrade buildings to unlock advanced things On that note, your kerbals have abilities, pilots can follow sas commands, if they have 3 stars, also the advanced ones. Again, if your vessel shakes up this early, that may be what I just pointed out. If it's coming when you reach more speed, that's probably aerodynamic.

Here's a handful of tips in general because I can't quiet pinpoint the problem:

Later in when your vessels get larger, structure can also start to throw you off with the entire thing bending.

If you don't have access to sas, you can always make your vessel spin, like a bullet coming out of a rifled barrel. that will help you stabelize as well, at the sacrifice of choice where to fly if not straight up.

A tip would be to turn on the lights on your rocket to keep track how your vessel is oriented to the camera.

If you want to archive orbit, or a vavorable reentry, what >>11875225 said is advisable.

I mean it's not rocket science, control surfaces, sas and gyros should always be checked.

A very generalized plan for about every rocket would be:
>SAS on, throttle to max
SPACE to start
>immediately turn to about 5-10°
>At 200ms cut engine and let the boosters do all the work
>at 10.000m your vessel should be past 45°, maybe even earlier.
>either way around 10.000m get back on throttle. it could get a little hot but that's normal.
>Then don't reach aphoraxis before you passed 90.000 (which is minimum orbit), or you'll just dip through again.
>Your rocket should fly parralel-ish now for speed, not height.
> Before that, if you want to reach orbit, you should be fast enough, that over the "m" menu your trajectory doesn't go below 90.000 on either mark.

Always ditch stages you don't need anymore, even in space because you don't want to move more dead weight than necessary, against gravity, an atmosphere or inertia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:15:32 2020 No.11875398 >>11875390 >muh left right dichotomy Imagine believing in that shit. Protip politics is more complicated than a sliding scale.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:18:23 2020 No.11875410 >>11875398 Sure. I hate socialism wherever you position it in a magical political tesseract

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:20:34 2020 No.11875417 >>11875410 Infinitely, unerringly, and dangerously BASED.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:20:53 2020 No.11875419
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>>11875393
Edit and if your approach feels forced, start over. It's not efficient that way.
It has to be one (more or less) smooth curve that passes the 10km and 90km mark dynamically.

I mean needs must when the devil vomits into your kettle and pisses on your rag, but on a mission start you have the luxury of F9. (Oh yeah always F5 before starting.)

By the way have you fed the Kraken yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:21:28 2020 No.11875423 >>11875410 Enjoy Google megacorp boot when it hostile takes over your neutral good megacorp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:33:29 2020 No.11875460 >>11874329 guilt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:35:29 2020 No.11875468 How many spent upper stages are orbiting in LEO and higher?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:37:33 2020 No.11875474 >>11874511 The shuttle eventually used the docking system that was meant for buran

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:39:03 2020 No.11875480 >>11875423 Yeah, what's the point in "Human" spaceflight anyways? Fuck the whole field.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:42:19 2020 No.11875488 >>11875480 It’s cool. If people are willing to pay for it, and even make money with it, it’ll be done.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:45:47 2020 No.11875497 >>11875480 Non sequiter

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:48:13 2020 No.11875498 >>11875474 I watched that Scott Manley video too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:51:29 2020 No.11875503 >>11875329 Imagine being this brainwashed that you think politics is just good+bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:52:40 2020 No.11875504 >>11875329 Science is liberal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:54:12 2020 No.11875509 >>11875504 No, science is a tool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:56:13 2020 No.11875515 >>11875504 Science has no political, moral, or legal affiliation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:56:40 2020 No.11875517 >>11875509 The scientific process of inquiry and experimentation is an inherently liberal one: Conservatism is about tradition, Liberalism is about change. Science is not about upholding traditions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:58:23 2020 No.11875518 File: 57 KB, 1024x540, 23D44043-B993-4879-80B6-401609FBCDC1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11874087 >Traps are gay. Mfw when I thought that was, “Traps are greys”

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:59:46 2020 No.11875521

>>11875517
Liberalism is the inherent belief of upholding individual liberty, consent of the governed, and equality under the law.

Science is a tool for finding answers to questions that can be analytically worked, determined, and explained. Improvements and new information mean that answers are subject to change if a better, more complete theory is developed that creates a better explanation of the data. The value of tradition has nothing to do with the process of generating answers to questions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:00:53 2020 No.11875524 >>11875517 Buzzfeed-tier understanding of political theory

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:02:15 2020 No.11875528 File: 1.41 MB, 4032x3024, A30BF60A-2E9B-4080-93F6-0CA309A48090.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The people who want to defund NASA are unironically the same people who constantly praise China’s space program

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:02:17 2020 No.11875529 >>11875521 It should be obvious that what passes for an American Liberal these days are not Liberally minded people, but instead are broadly, authoritarian zealots.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:03:36 2020 No.11875533

>>11875521
>The value of tradition has nothing to do with the process of generating answers to questions.
Yes it does. Science breaks down traditional beliefs about how the universe works and replaces it with more accurate ideas. That's why conservatives oppose every new scientific breakthrough, because it clashes with their traditional beliefs. That's why we have adults in 2020 believing in the garden of eden and noah's ark.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:03:51 2020 No.11875535 >>11875524 Says the person who unironically believes in the hegelian dialect, that's about the most buzzfeed tier political theory there is.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:04:27 2020 No.11875537

>>11875517
No, the scientific process is a clever tool constructed to facilitate the amoral and apolitical pursuit of truth via a rigorous and strict methodology which allows the scientist to rule out erroneous hypothesis until they arrive at increasingly accurate models for real world phenomena.
Your reductive attempt to characterize it in a political manner is simply incorrect to the point of being useless. Scientists can be individually liberal or conservative, science cannot. Science is no more liberal than a wrench is liberal, it's no more conservative than a hammer is conservative.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:05:12 2020 No.11875538

>>11875533
>Conservatives oppose every new scientific breakthrough

Dude have you seen how Trump is reacting to Spaceflight? He’s done more in four years than Obama did in 8, yet people still warp their heads to see him as being bad (at least regarding spaceflight).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:07:04 2020 No.11875545 >>11875533 I wonder how liberals will react when we finally nail down genetic patterns for intelligence and find a strong disparity among ethnic groups.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:07:08 2020 No.11875546 >>11875533 Liberals like to criticize stupid Christians (often with good reason) but as soon as you point out retarded shit with Islam, or that both Hispanics and Blacks are overwhelmingly majority Christian, they lose their shit.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:11:55 2020 No.11875556

>>11875533
I'd respond to this, but >>11875538
>>11875545
and >>11875546
hit the broad strokes of the main counterargument I'd offer; people who uphold Science as something of a weapon against "those dastardly conservatives" and whatnot are almost always specifically, dogmatically opposed to the Christian religion and white people. Datapoints that would defend white people or Christian values are pointedly ignored. Did you know serial killers almost always come from single mother households, and that there is a direct link between two-parent households and economic success in life, particularly when fathers take an active role in child rearing? Did you know it falls apart with same sex couples? Scientifically, anyone who wants a healthy society should be against letting homosexual couples raise children, and against no-fault divorce.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:13:50 2020 No.11875561 >>11875538 >Trump The guy who thinks climate change is a chinese hoax, who said vaccines cause autism, and who says windmills cause cancer? Wow, what a great scientist. >>11875545 Whataboutism >>11875546 Whataboutism

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:15:18 2020 No.11875563 >>11875537 All you did was repeat definitions and say "no" rather than refute my point: Conservatism is about upholding tradition and science is the opposite of that.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:18:40 2020 No.11875575
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Why is there now politics in the /sfg/ thread?
Can we, not?
I was the one asking for the best evil mega corp, causing >>11875098 to respond, it all spiralled down from there on and I feel partially responsible. Please, stop now.
I mean this isn't even Oldspace vs spacex, or even remotely space related anymore, just basic politics. It doesn't belong here.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:18:45 2020 No.11875576

>>11875563
>>All you did was repeat definitions and say "no" rather than refute my point:
>Conservatism is about upholding tradition and science is the opposite of that.

If you rigidly pigeonhole "Conservatism" into "never changing for anything, ever," society stagnates and dies, and sponsorship, preservation, and spread of information and knowledge, including what lets you sit your ass down and talk to us over a global telecommunications network almost instantly with nothing more than engineered crystals, electricity, metal wires, and plastics, wouldn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:20:06 2020 No.11875585 >>11875315 >Martian government passive-aggressively nags you into complying An interesting authoritarian approach

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:20:44 2020 No.11875590 [DELETED]

>>11875561
Trump's retarded personal beliefs are irrelevant exactly because he is not a scientist, he's a president, a president who's administration has encompassed the largest leaps forward for American spaceflight technology since the Apollo era. If you care about spaceflight, then Trump has been good for that, if you care more about Trump than spaceflight itself perhaps a /pol/ thread would be more your speed.
>>11875563
Why do I need to do any extra legwork when the fundamental nature of the scientific method already ably refutes your shallow and reductive attempt to politicize it well enough on it's own? Science is a tool, not a team.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:22:17 2020 No.11875598 >>11875503 > Imagine being this brainwashed that you think politics is just good+bad It’s mostly shades of grey, but there are examples of black and white.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:23:27 2020 No.11875603 >>11875517 >ScIeNcE iS AbOuT CoMuNIsM AnD TrAnNiEs

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:23:28 2020 No.11875604

>>11875535
>technology can be used to break down social traditions therefore science is liberal
The connection between landing on the moon and injecting kids with hormones is what? Anyone is free to use technology to further their worldview. As other anons have already said, science is a neutral tool. It has no inherent morality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:25:15 2020 No.11875611 >>11875604 I'm not the guy you replied to, just laughing at your retard tier political intelligence.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:27:03 2020 No.11875620
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Guys stop talking politics, srsly. NOBODY ever won anybody over to his point of view on 4chan. It's futile!
Just look at Elon!
Look into his eyes...
And relax.

(It will all be fine...)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:28:30 2020 No.11875624 >>11875611 What's your point then? I'm a retard because I called some retard retarded? Okay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:29:34 2020 No.11875631 >>11873783 GIBSMESAT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:31:53 2020 No.11875641 >>11875624 No you're a retard because you unironically believe in a sliding scale political theory that suits an 8 year old.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:32:11 2020 No.11875643 File: 111 KB, 516x960, 1497575799248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875620 The God-Emperor is correct

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:32:25 2020 No.11875644 File: 2.17 MB, 1976x2494, f7a7603fb595ac0cad331237a40333e2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875576 >>11875590 >>11875598 >>11875603 >>11875624 >H-hey anon, >C...can you help me reaching geostationary orbit?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:36:08 2020 No.11875661

>>11875641
How is your reading comprehension this dogshit?
>person says science is liberal and anti-conservative
>I say that's a stupid understanding of politics
>You accuse me of making that person's argument
>Call me retarded for making the same argument you did
unironically kys

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:36:48 2020 No.11875662 >>11875644 >Help Rei Ayanami get into space I've seen enough animoo to know this can only end badly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:39:06 2020 No.11875670 File: 183 KB, 800x600, das-boot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875662 >>11875643 I swear to god, I'm getting there lads, I'm getting this thread back on course!

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:42:43 2020 No.11875681

>>11875620
Based Elon in his infinite wisdom has made the obvious choice any intelligent person should come to, that polsci and basket weaving majors should be abandoned at the bottom of a gravity well. STEMchads gonna rise up!
>>11875644
Sure thing miss, that'll cost you about 14km/s.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:43:11 2020 No.11875683 >>11875644 You want us to fry you to the moon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:43:30 2020 No.11875684 File: 177 KB, 1080x1451, 1571594791897.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875620

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:43:52 2020 No.11875686 >>11875681 It takes as much delta/v to reach GEO as it does to do a Mars intercept?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:46:02 2020 No.11875699 File: 90 KB, 746x885, Elon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875684

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:46:22 2020 No.11875702 >>11875686 From the ground all the way there, obviously, LEO to GEO is only 3.9-4ish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:46:43 2020 No.11875704 >>11875684 Looks like she might have armpit hair. If so, that’s hot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:46:45 2020 No.11875705 >>11875643 Imagine the empire that encompasses that galaxy. >200 trillion species of alien whores to fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:47:50 2020 No.11875711 >>11875705 >Not one of them has evolved the self-lubricating vagina

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:47:56 2020 No.11875715 File: 41 KB, 604x451, 1589923563738.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875705

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:49:17 2020 No.11875723 File: 330 KB, 600x693, e248b28d23572fa74e77d8e3e4205e56.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875705 1400-trillion vaganias. Contemplate the possibilities.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:50:27 2020 No.11875728 File: 67 KB, 572x434, 1429570509110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875705 >>11875723

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:51:36 2020 No.11875732 File: 14 KB, 320x279, OIP.5jYHoJkBwjpxqhWnpQbzYwAAAA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875705 >You will never participate in a cultural/body fluids exchange with Lieutenant M'Ress

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:52:04 2020 No.11875736 >>11874847 >>11874869 If we could master the electroweak force cold fusion would be a cinch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:54:21 2020 No.11875742 >>11875711 >But curiously, the males have evolved a self-lubricating anus

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:55:30 2020 No.11875745 >>11875643 Large elliptical galaxies are typically much more diffuse than spiral galaxies though, so it would take hundreds or even thousands of years to travel between stars even near the speed of light.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:55:44 2020 No.11875746 >>11874847 Once X-Æ-A12 comes of age he'll invent the Infinity Memeprobability Drive allowing for instantaneous interstellar travel.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:56:55 2020 No.11875751
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H-Hey guys, sore really based anon over at /o/ >>>/o/22601720
(Who's totally not me samefagging here to get you off politics) has had this question how fast you could go to mars if your only limitation was to not squash the squashy things in the capsule with the forces of acceleration. Wonder if you based lads could answer that (and this is totally not just a cheap attempt to get you off arguing over such mundane things as politics)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:57:58 2020 No.11875752 File: 76 KB, 616x522, When u hear something about heretics - Copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875715 >Heresy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:58:03 2020 No.11875753 >>11875751 We stopped talking about politics once we started talking about fucking aliens

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:59:06 2020 No.11875757 >>11875644 >>11875751 Now they're talking about the alien puss and armpit hair which is arguable worse

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:59:43 2020 No.11875763 >>11875757 Armpit hair is sexy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:01:48 2020 No.11875769 File: 19 KB, 474x310, OIP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875753 I noticed that.Do you guys know how hard it is to captain this spacedumpster?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:03:32 2020 No.11875776 >>11875769 When there is no news this place is just a space themed shitpost general, and that's a good thing!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:03:44 2020 No.11875779 >>11875763 What about alien pubes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:03:50 2020 No.11875780 File: 106 KB, 500x487, brother-ogerthe-flamer-31712909.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875742

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:04:31 2020 No.11875782 >>11875779 That sounds pretty hot. My girlfriend dyes hers purple

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:07:46 2020 No.11875796
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>Anon, sorry to barge in like this, but I've noticed a discrepancy in the ship's manifest-
>Oh! I"m sorry, I didn't realize you were in the middle of...something. I didn't mean to interrupt.
>Wow, I didn't realize it looked like that.
>...Can i give you a hand?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:09:37 2020 No.11875808 >>11875796 I’d totally fuck aliens as long as there’s some way to pleasure eachother, which is nearly guaranteed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:12:25 2020 No.11875818 File: 408 KB, 498x359, tenor (1).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/pol/ is using commercial space to buy a satellite photo of three gorges dam and expose commie lies So, this is the power of the private sector...

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:13:20 2020 No.11875821

>>11875751
If you have a spaceship that can do 1g for days rather than minutes you basically have unlimited access to the solar system without risking squish factor. If you have a spaceship that can do 1g for 300 days and a funny set of magnet coils on the front you can do a round trip to another star at 20% lightspeed. Greater than 1g acceleration is basically only useful for escaping the gravity wells of planets and large moons, atmospheric reentry and braking, or emergency run the fuck away RIGHT NOW maneuvers.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:15:37 2020 No.11875825
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>>11875779
>>11875782
>>11875808
>>11875753
>>11875742
Uuuuh guys, uhm Miss July is tapping in in a few seconds in order to find out when we reach Max! and get ready for some sweet MECO, I guess, I hope you all behave and shit, would be... like a shame if she got a bad impression of you guys, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:19:44 2020 No.11875837 >>11875796 That chick (Tawn We or whatever) is the least human looking thing I've ever fapped to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:22:20 2020 No.11875845 >>11875837 Bravo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:23:43 2020 No.11875851 File: 45 KB, 534x405, alec-guinness-captain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875837 >>11875845 I give up, but I'm not leaving!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:25:00 2020 No.11875856 >>11875837 You have passed the SpaceX Mars Colony psychological test

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:25:55 2020 No.11875858 >>11875732 Do Caitand have pubes and armpit hair or is it just the fur they have everywhere? What does it smell like after she's been wearing her Starfleet uniform all day?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:28:17 2020 No.11875864 >>11874329 They were never that good, just had a head start due to autism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:29:03 2020 No.11875866 >>11875858 >what does it smell like? heaven.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:31:10 2020 No.11875870 https://e621.net/posts/41625 Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:32:23 2020 No.11875876 >10 years later the Falcon 1 upper stage is still in low Earth orbit making it the only Falcon 1 still in orbit. Somebody retrieve it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:36:27 2020 No.11875883 File: 73 KB, 534x405, Captain Anon of USS SFG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875851

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:38:52 2020 No.11875887 >>11875858 I’d assume it’s like normal cats and the hair is uniform.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:39:14 2020 No.11875889 >>11875098 Ahahahaha faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:39:21 2020 No.11875890 I hate all of you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:44:35 2020 No.11875904 >>11875889 >Ahahahaha faggot Ahahahaha faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:44:40 2020 No.11875905 >>11875887 >The hair is uniform It's clearly standard-issue Starfleet fabric, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:45:20 2020 No.11875909 I love all of you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:47:39 2020 No.11875915 >>11875905 >>11875887 >She's been naked this whole time, simply dying her fur since she can't find her uniform

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:48:32 2020 No.11875918 >>11875915 >Next level exhibitionism

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:49:18 2020 No.11875922 File: 127 KB, 550x400, 1536499281276.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875889 >>11875904

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:50:56 2020 No.11875927 File: 109 KB, 720x308, eh5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875909 This is my ship now and we're going home!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 23:52:59 2020 No.11875933 File: 1.46 MB, 1176x828, Launchday!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875927 wait if Weihr was a furry, would he be a weihrewulf? (somebody kill me now)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:02:07 2020 No.11875951 >>11875120 You might try putting it on some kind of pendulum platform which can stay level unless the weather is too rough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:28:49 2020 No.11876038 File: 1.20 MB, 1018x1175, Odd space rock.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875796 I hope you stay stuck on earth with the rest of the normalfags.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:29:47 2020 No.11876039 >>11876038 >tfw no rock gf named Krystal

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:31:31 2020 No.11876046 >>11876038 >>11875837

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:32:36 2020 No.11876051 >>11875715 Foreshadowing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:32:50 2020 No.11876052 >>11876038 are those smaller holes on the bottom the equivalent of rock assholes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:36:32 2020 No.11876061 >>11876038 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:43:07 2020 No.11876077 Damn it wednesday Starlink launch/boca static fire. The wait is killing me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:43:47 2020 No.11876081 File: 32 KB, 377x240, 1592356802209.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /pol/ here, we've just started renting satellites for chink spying ops, thank you based rocketfags.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:44:21 2020 No.11876082 >>11874161 just use a hydrocarbon fuel instead, it'll work fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:53:01 2020 No.11876105 >>11876081 Please stay on your board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:55:54 2020 No.11876110 File: 12 KB, 249x249, images (32).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11876105 spaceflight related, also we own this website

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 00:59:03 2020 No.11876124 >>11876110 >we own this website you mean /biz/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:18:47 2020 No.11876166 harvest anti-matter from van-allen radiation belts

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:35:34 2020 No.11876191 File: 2.47 MB, 2188x1264, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Testing this contraption to see if it's viable for reentry in Duna of my two part spacecraft instead of landing them separately

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:37:53 2020 No.11876198 hydrolox heavy lift SSTO when?

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:43:18 2020 No.11876212

>>11873255
Can I get involved in spaceflight if I don't have an engineering undergrad degree? I have a biochem degree and starting a biophysics graduate degree involving particle tracking so I will have some coding experience. Wanted to potentially work outside of bio after I get my degree

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:48:43 2020 No.11876224 >>11874085 throw JWST into the mix

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:51:20 2020 No.11876230 >>11876212 You can be chief mop-operator and I can be senior dish-sterilizer for Musk colony.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:52:26 2020 No.11876233 >>11876198 Never, why would you even want that shit. We methalox gang now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:53:53 2020 No.11876237 >>11876230 Good enough for me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 01:55:21 2020 No.11876238 My cock is oozing precum just thinking of the mineral specimens I could find on the rust-red plains of Mars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 02:09:22 2020 No.11876276 >>11876238 UwU what's this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 02:12:10 2020 No.11876285 >>11876238 Oh no the geologists have woken up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 02:34:19 2020 No.11876342 File: 1.81 MB, 2800x1550, mars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHEN

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 02:34:42 2020 No.11876343 >>11876230 I would give everything I have on Earth (which really isn’t much but oh well) to just scrub toilets on Mars, man

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 02:43:05 2020 No.11876355 >>11876342 Gotta love those Martian place names

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:03:30 2020 No.11876389 carbon fiber hydrolox boosters WHEN?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:13:45 2020 No.11876408 >>11876342 Mars is so fucking kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:16:45 2020 No.11876415 >>11876342 >>11876408 Could human bodies ever adapt? To both mars and earth gravity?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:20:25 2020 No.11876423 >>11875238 >That's Personnel ID, like every German was an employee. And the Reicjsbürger actualy belive that germany, or rather the BRiD GmbH is a company.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:28:13 2020 No.11876445

>>11876415
We don't know, and we won't know until there are long-term studies with a variable-g orbital lab or actual human presence on earth and mars.
Earth-to-Mars would likely be pretty easy, but Mars-to-Earth would probably come with a strenuous adjustment period which might be measured in anything from weeks to years, or prove to be impossible/impractical.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:33:59 2020 No.11876456 >>11875876 >Somebody retrieve it I'm pretty sure a shitposting billionair might do that when starship is reay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:39:46 2020 No.11876467 >>11876389 Probably never as they would not survive re-entry even at suborbital velocities.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 03:58:03 2020 No.11876510
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>>11876423
I didn't say that and it's absurd. But I like the way you spelled >Reicjsbürger, makes it look less German and unharmonic/brutalist. More, I dunno, Finnish?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 04:15:47 2020 No.11876533 How come we haven't sent a lander to Martian poles?' Preserverance has a helicopter called ingenuity

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 04:22:54 2020 No.11876545 boing starliner lauching from falcon 9!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 04:34:52 2020 No.11876567 >>11876545 They'd find a way to blame SpaceX if their deathtrap fails again. Can we crowdfund a Falcon 9 launch of a propellant depot to give Shelby a brain hemorrhage?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:07:06 2020 No.11876601 >>11876510 Or rather a typo as "h" and "j" are next to each other on a qwertz-type keyboard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:26:41 2020 No.11876633 >>11876533 Same reason why apollo missions never landed on the moon poles, it costs more fuel. The helicopter can fly only for a few minutes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:27:02 2020 No.11876635 >>11876533 >How come we haven't sent a lander to Martian poles?' it's hard to send shit to planetary poles

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:29:09 2020 No.11876637 File: 3.74 MB, 3400x3400, AS11-44-6666.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] she's calling me, lads

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:29:57 2020 No.11876639 File: 122 KB, 1080x1350, 1590867885739.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11875825

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:36:54 2020 No.11876652 >>11875883 needs more Cirno

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:39:31 2020 No.11876657 File: 14 KB, 250x309, 1588144334076.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11876637

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:42:56 2020 No.11876666 In all honesty, what is the probability that AT LEAST 1 average /sfg/ browser makes it to space in the next 40 years (preferably on a colony or Starship voyage they paid for)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:57:38 2020 No.11876690 >>11876666 50% either you make it or not

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:58:18 2020 No.11876692 File: 348 KB, 1254x1378, 78827bd680966922c42c00ef5d548152.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11876657

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:58:43 2020 No.11876694 >>11876633 >Same reason why apollo missions never landed on the moon poles, it costs more fuel. Almost none.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:00:26 2020 No.11876696 >>11876690 This man has mastered statistics

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:01:10 2020 No.11876700 >>11876635 Not really. Just intercept the body in such a way that your periapsis is over the north or South Pole rather than past the equator. It’d require a normal or antinormal burn with an unimpressive delta/v cost during transit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:13:39 2020 No.11876722 File: 1.63 MB, 5568x3712, iss061e058522~orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11876238 click

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:22:19 2020 No.11876738 >>11876666 I'm determined to get the fuck off this shithole planet, to the moon, Mars, belt, wherever, I have assets and I believe a valuable skill set, not being an American citizen may fuck me over though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:06:38 2020 No.11876803 new >>11876801 >>11876801 >>11876801

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:17:35 2020 No.11876815 >>11876803 page 7, fuck off

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:26:41 2020 No.11876825 Even doing it at the start of page 9 is way early, it's about 4 hours per page on /sci/, so when some faggot starts a new thread early, the old one is still up all day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:08:13 2020 No.11876899 Thoughts on the starliner update today

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:26:32 2020 No.11876940 >>11876899 What update?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:32:03 2020 No.11876955 >>11876940 https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-provides-update-on-commercial-crew-program-close-call-review-of-boeing-s-orbital

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 08:34:10 2020 No.11876963 >>11876955 Why have thoughts on something that hasn't happened yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:40:04 2020 No.11877086 File: 1.81 MB, 3557x4091, HTVandEndeavourSpace.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11876666 Pretty high, considering the fact that I'm going.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 11:24:28 2020 No.11877476 >>11875088 Google is already manipulating world wide politics so they are probably even more evil then WeyYu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:41:41 2020 No.11877877 le go to space cuz there might be another earth out there meme lmao it will just be another earth. NOTHING NEW TO SEE THERE.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:18:06 2020 No.11878194 File: 529 KB, 420x396, moonman blam.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873255 >Moonman Edition

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