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The need for exotic matter is illusory. The field has to be very carefully tuned and shaped for the effect to emerge, which is why it isn't something you see in common experiments-think of how a laser can just involve light and ruby in a certain configuration,but it took centuries of experiments in optics and light for us to figure out that lasers could be built.

However just because it's rare doesn't mean it doesn't happen-electromagnetic fields in large storm clouds can,in very rare circumstances, warp space to the extent of causing freakish physical displacement. It's possible this has contributed to certain weird aircraft accidents,but it's known for sure that it resulted in a man named Bruce Gernon having a seemingly impossible physical displacement that made his aircraft appear at a time and place it could not physically have reached on its own.

That incident caused an astronomy professor named David Pares to to hypothesize the concept that it was the result of electromagnetic space warping from storm clouds, so he used an aircraft to take measurements of what the magnetic environment was like inside of these systems and sought to recreate the tripolar fields he detected using special EM field coils. Over the last 7 years he's built a series of prototypes and measured their ability to "pull" on space. recently,the company pulled many of its videos and announced they were going silent until late July when they would announce a commercial partnership. pic related

This could all be bullshit, but I'm intrigued by even a remote chance of such technology being possible.

>> No.11865181

Whether you can use it to travel FTL or not,it could allow a "space propeller" drive,which would crack the solar system open like an egg. The cost per kilogram to orbit would fall virtually to zero.

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>>11865168
>george lucas look alike scoops the aerospace industry

I want to believe

>> No.11865187

>>11865168
Seems like schitzo shit, but i guess we could be in for some more crazy shit this year

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This is the paper he and a student published. It was published pretty recently, as early as 2018. You can just use scihub to view to whole thing.
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2018-4633

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>>11865168
>The need for exotic matter is illusory
I'm on this line of thinking as well, the thought experiment of alcubierre is enough to reveal the truth that space itself can be thought of a fluid with a viscosity. This implies that it can be sloshed around in a bucket so to speak, creating troughs and crests, and areas of higher and lower density. In nature we can turn to gravatars and other physics where relativity and quantum mechanics become present simultaneously in small regions of vast potential.

My search on this area has spanned Telsa's natural media patents, including a receiver and 'magnifying transmitter', which demonstrates how to create, not a transverse electromagnetic wave, but a longditudinal, 'scalar' or pressure wave in the field-- compressions of space itself.

Small regions of incredibly high electric potential, harmonizing with eachother to create greater and greater compressions in space, warping it

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>>11865168
But goy, electricity doesn't do anything in space!

>> No.11865701

>>11865263
>a fluid with a viscosity.
Why beat around the bush so much? Why not just say the P word? It's not dangerous. It's already well-established that space is over 99.9% the P word.

>> No.11866616

>>11865701
what's the P word ?

>> No.11867052

>>11865168
Yes, there's a chance for technology like that, but in modern era of emulated lives, who's going to randomly realize that? Maybe we're technologically closed for current generation, because there's been involved investments just in obvious prosperity of stable income which experimental technology doesn't obviously brings on the table always. Therefore we may need to wait until stuff get's more wild, but I guess that somewhere twisting reality, tying up another know on the theory may work. Some coil like structure of exotic material or contact of two different exotics could create moment out even without bending space, maybe just bending itself, or bending whatever particles, but hypothetically space is made of spaceion's and they are somehow locked in place and somehow moved, and also constatly moving.

Just wait, some crazy 70's scientit's grandchildren will pull out eather tourbine engine out of some old garage some day, and we will go to space travel.

>> No.11867062

>>11865168
>posts schizo Facebook page that will never make a prototype of experiment
opinion discarded.

>> No.11867136

>>11865168
>manipulate space using electromagnetic fields
Space has no properties to manipulate

>This could all be bullshit, but I'm intrigued by even a remote chance of such technology being possible.
It's bullshit because space doesn't exist. It speaks of fields manipulating "it" but has no proof of the "it" (being space).

>>11865695
What about all the rest of the shit that's allegedly "in space", you included?

>>11866616
Piezoelectrics

>> No.11867209

>>11867136
Haven’t objects create time dilation. This is just one way we can see spacetime.

>> No.11867215

>>11867209
Heavy objects I mean create time dilation

>> No.11867218

>>11867209
>time dilation
You speak of the difference in measures of spinning gears and atoms, yet the explanation is still not there as to why you think "time" and "space" actually exist and cause things to happen.

>> No.11867236

>>11867218
Spacetime by definition is what we live in right now. We have space, it is what we are in. That what it defines. Time is different. Time is strange to define. It’s a measurement. We can measure it so it exists.

>> No.11867261

>>11867236
Spacetime by definition is what we live in right now. We have space, it is what we are in. That what it defines
>everything else except space defines it.
So it's shadow-tier. It doesn't exist.
>It’s a measurement. We can measure it so it exists.
So wait...which is it?

>> No.11867268

>>11867261
Space is what we move around in. If there wasn’t space how do we move around in a 3D.

>> No.11867279

>>11867268
>Space is what we move around in
You need a medium to move. Something that allows you to propel in the first place.
>If there wasn’t space how do we move around in a 3D.
That would be the thing to figure out yes, but simply saying it's because of this imaginary fishbowl with 3 axis you arbitrarily defined doesn't "give it" existence. Can you put "space" in an experiment and test it?

>> No.11867280

>>11865168
>Allegedly, it is possible to manipulate space using electromagnetic fields
Alleged by whom?
You can create a singularity on paper by packing enough electromagnetic radiation into a small enough area.

>> No.11867298

>>11867279
Yes exactly. We live in 3D body and we name this body space that’s it and model it as 3D. That’s it

>> No.11867384

>>11867298
So space is just another word for Aether?

>> No.11867548

>>11867384
you could call it an aether just a label. of course the theory of aether is completely debunked via experimentation.

>> No.11867565

>>11867548
id like to add there isnt "substance" we move through of course thats why i say the aether theory are debunked