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/sfg/ Spaceflight General Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:05:15 2020 No.11862584 [Reply] [Original]

Moonshot edition
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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:07:47 2020 No.11862590 first for boeing btfo'd

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:10:35 2020 No.11862595 File: 1.07 MB, 1832x2536, William_Boeing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where did it all go wrong bros?

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:13:11 2020 No.11862606 File: 786 KB, 2738x2998, AS17-134-20461.med.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862595 wuhan

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:52:52 2020 No.11862659 File: 60 KB, 795x526, 1562864651085.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Chinese launch was a success, not sure if there were any videos. Next launch is in 42 hours.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:54:55 2020 No.11862664 File: 469 KB, 1004x870, 1585903961557.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862659 It was an Earth observation sat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:57:15 2020 No.11862666 >>11862659 >The Chinese launch was a success How many villagers?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:02:57 2020 No.11862673 File: 2.46 MB, 3280x4083, rockets.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] post your rockets bros

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:09:18 2020 No.11862682 >>11862677 [ksp collision noises]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:16:01 2020 No.11862694 >>11862682 Elon reverting to vehicle assembly IRL

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:19:51 2020 No.11862701 >>11862694 >tfw NASA went back to space center after columbia made it to orbit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:25:40 2020 No.11862708 File: 29 KB, 445x321, a320enhance_13185.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862595 Toulouse, 2006

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:30:57 2020 No.11862711 >>11862595 Getting merged with McDonnel Douglas

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:49:18 2020 No.11862748 >>11862666 checked! 666 obviously.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:01:28 2020 No.11862772 >>11862677 This thing is going to be an absolute death trap

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:21:38 2020 No.11862808 >>11862772 Kys pls

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:26:07 2020 No.11862815 >>11862595 i feel kinda bad for him

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:39:41 2020 No.11862830
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This Gateway orbit is so fucking stupid. Why not just a tighter orbit around L2? You could send something from L2 to Mars transfer orbit with a fucking SRB or an AlOx rocket made out of moon dirt. Hell, you could literally have astronauts on a rotating torus station get a running start and kick it out the airlock and then deploy a solar sail (either a plasma magnet meme or photon foil), and it'd still be able to reach Mars. This faggotronic orbit is actually farther from the lunar surface than L2 is most of the time, and also sacrifices all the orbital hax enabled by a Lagrange point. I swear this was deliberately put in the stupidest possible orbit so they needed SLS Block 2 or refuelable Starships to finish the thing.

>>11862595
When Joseph McCarthy was stopped from finishing the job.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:47:40 2020 No.11862843
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Posting this here because I think the rest of /sci/ doesn't care, but I think "faster-than-light" space travel may actually be possible in our lifetimes but research into it (and indeed the questionable foundations of modern physics) has been avoided and ridiculed for decades since Einstein published his theory of special relativity. I've spent the past few weeks sifting through schizo and crank shit but there is a SHIT TON of peer-reviewed evidence that questions Einstein that has been effectively suppressed. Can provide links to papers and journals if anyone is interested.

I urge some of you amateur scientists to look into the evidence that disproves the constancy of the speed of light in a vacuum, because this rabbit hole is deep and I feel like it's a real bombshell that has been tucked away by Big Science to justify spending on retarded particle colliders.

Here is a good start:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00387016908050941

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:49:19 2020 No.11862848 >>11862843 i'm not big brained enough to understand this theoretical physics shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:51:48 2020 No.11862853 >>11862843 If lightspeed is relative then most of our assumptions about the relative size, distance, and age of celestial objects is wrong. It would be hilarious if c+v ended up fixing the need for dark matter/energy entirely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:58:41 2020 No.11862871 >>11862843 what the fuck is v here?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:58:47 2020 No.11862872

>>11862853

Indeed, dark matter/energy sounds suspiciously familiar to the old theories of the luminiferous aether which was "debunked" by Michelson-Morley and Einstein (there are some peer-reviewed studies that show results completely consistent with aether theory published later, but these have gone completely ignored by the establishment).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:09:06 2020 No.11862881 >>11862843 >(((Einstein)))) Judenphysik is not real

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:11:54 2020 No.11862884

>>11862843
Here is another good start:
>Mr. Wallace, 64, a self-educated physicist and astronomer who died March 19, 1997
>A junior high school dropout
That alone doesn't prove he's wrong, but it's still quite the red flag.
The rest is the usual recipe of all quacks: self delusion and claims of plots and being ostracized by academic circles, witch of course suits well with his amateur status.
When there is some evidence the scientific community takes that cautiously but seriously enough to investigate, like it happened at the time of the famous neutrino experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly

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Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:16:05 2020 No.11862891
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>>11862884

I agree, I would also be inclined to question his claims considering his educational background, however it seems he got a very large platform in the former USSR with a lot of papers over there citing him (check the Google Scholar citations), after I looked into his background he wrote a length memoir detailing his experiences with the scientific establishment and how open debate was more encouraged in the Eastern Bloc. Regardless if the claim is true or not, it is a fascinating read indeed.

https://bryangwallace.dreamhosters.com/book/index.html

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:21:01 2020 No.11862898

>>11862884
>>11862891

Adding onto my previous comment, it appears some of Wallace's claims were corroborated by Renshaw [1] when he sought to explain the anomalous Doppler effect observations in data from Pioneer 10 *and* 11. Relativistic theories have still failed to explain this, despite classical Newtonian assumptions being sufficient enough.

>Radio metric data from the Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft indicate an apparent, constant skewing between the predicted and observed Doppler shifts. This offset has been attributed to a possible acceleration of 8.0/spl times/10/sup -8/ cm/s/sup 2/ directed toward the Sun for both crafts. Any potential gravitometric models and systemic problems seem to fail in explaining this discrepancy. The value of the observed anomalous shift is shown to equal the difference between the calculated values for Newtonian and special
relativistic Doppler expressions. The anomalous signals seem to indicate a preference for the Newtonian values and a deficiency of the relativistic Doppler corrections rather than any new gravitational physics.

[1] https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/793143

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:28:54 2020 No.11862906 >>11862898 >pioneer anomaly >wtf is thermal recoil

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:33:07 2020 No.11862910 bros why dont rockets have navigation lights like planes what if someone runs into them???

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:38:47 2020 No.11862916 File: 43 KB, 323x640, 3498536b9087.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862910 Ayy lmao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:42:09 2020 No.11862921 >>11862843 One study doesn’t mean anything. We need repeated showing of something before you start actually looking at our theories and seeing if they are wrong

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:46:44 2020 No.11862928
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>tfw solar panel whacks into something during deployment from upper stage and breaks but you designed it with just enough excess power that it can still continue the mission on the remaining panel, just with a shorter lifespan once the panels start to degrade

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 05:52:43 2020 No.11862941 >>11862928 What's that visual mod?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:01:05 2020 No.11862960
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>>11862941
It's a bunch of stuff, but visual mods i'm running are EVE + scatter + planetshine + distant object enhancement + engine lighting + smokescreen + minimum ambient lighting + reshade for a bit of color grading and contrast adjustment
also using GPP system and 10.625x rescale, which is really important for making things look nice imo since you can't get those kino low orbits and thin atmospheres with the stock scale

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Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:30:50 2020 No.11862991
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Why haven't you taken the asteroid mining pill yet?
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/niac_sercel_phase_i_final_report_tagged.pdf
With asteroid mining, a single Falcon 9 can deliver 100 metric tons of water to a Lunar Distant Retrograde Orbit(LRDO). A single starship load could return up to 15,000 tons of water ice to LRDO. https://www.thespaceresource.com/news/2019/1/mining-thousands-of-tons-of-space-ice-with-queen-bee
Mining propellant is fucking overpowered. Take the asteroid mining pill. What you thought this was going to be about mining metals didn't you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:32:06 2020 No.11862994 redpill me on north-south vs south-north polar orbits

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:36:32 2020 No.11862996 >>11862991 Great shit, but there ain't no Uranium in them. Take the nuclear pill, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:38:13 2020 No.11862998 >>11862996 >not just using fusion to make your own uranium out of hydrogen bro

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:41:28 2020 No.11863002 File: 63 KB, 640x853, 1535549390031.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862998 >not cheating and starting with iron

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:06:11 2020 No.11863026
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>>11862996
Anon, you mine propellant not metals. A good portion of a rockets mass has to be propellant because the rocket equation says that the ratio of payload and rocket to propellant must exponentially increase with delta V. The delta V to and from asteroids is much lower than the delta V required to get to say LEO. In addition because you can mine more propellant, you don't have to launch the propellant necessary to return from the asteroid. And yeah, while that design uses solar, solar thermal propulsion is the most 'profitable.' You get the most mass back per the mass you have to launch. Solar thermal using steam ain't the most efficient, but it's the most 'profitable.' If we get propellant mining infrastructure set up, the cost of travel to cislunar space could get down to the price of an airline ticket. Plus, you can also mine tons of slag for radiation shielding.

And yeah nuclear is nice, but you're delusional if you think we're gonna use nuclear for surface to orbit any time soon. Which presumably how you'd get big tonnage to space barring asteroid mining. Even with nuclear, asteroid mining is a great way to multiply your launch mass. I really hope we do see nuclear spacecraft, but the US's push for civilians to only use low enriched uranium really puts a damper on things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:17:05 2020 No.11863115 >>11862711 seconding this they absorbed all the bean counting practices and the shitty management

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:32:46 2020 No.11863132 File: 42 KB, 465x585, James_Smith_McDonnell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862711 >>11863115 Where did it all go wrong bros?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 08:48:05 2020 No.11863152 File: 42 KB, 960x640, dc3-1-Air-Nostalgia-Douglas-DC-3-Melton-Vabre-960x640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863132 and to think they once had an almost perfect plane

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:00:49 2020 No.11863167 >>11862830 >deliberately put in the stupidest possible orbit so they needed SLS Block 2 or refuelable Starships to finish the thing Yes

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:05:31 2020 No.11863176

>>11862830
>Why not just a tighter orbit around L2?
Because that would be too close to the moon. Gateway was made during the Obama administration which wanted nothing to do with the moon nor Mars. So, this kinda sorta halfway orbit around the moon was found so that NASA could get away with a lunar space station on a technicality. Also, the delta-v to reach that orbit is less than going straight for an LLO which saves on fuel (ignoring that the delta-v to reach the surface from that orbit higher than from LLO). Welcome to politics plays KSP. It's like "twitch plays ..." but alot more chaotic and scummy.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:09:09 2020 No.11863183 File: 721 KB, 1240x930, OW_Satellite_50.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OneWeb purchased by the Bong government and a bunch of poos https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-53279783

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:09:20 2020 No.11863184 >>11863182 heh... would be a shame if your cargo door somehow came unlatched.....

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:27:31 2020 No.11863201 >>11863183 >Bong government and a bunch of poos Thats the same thing, anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:33:18 2020 No.11863211 >>11863183 Oneweb chewed up billions in route to crashing and burning with less than 100 satellites up, good luck to anyone expecting dirt poor bongs to actually do anything with it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:36:16 2020 No.11863216 File: 361 KB, 1000x600, Continental_Airlines_DC-10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863184 >junks up runway >destroys your Concorde nothing personal

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:40:02 2020 No.11863221
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>>11863211
apparently we've bought like 20 of them, which they're planning to somehow add to a new GPS network, which we need since we basically abandoned Galileo despite putting a lot of effort into it.
TFW our government have always been complete spacelets. At least Sutherland Spaceport has finally been given construction permission, and Skyrora is doing well with developing the 50-year late Black Arrow replacement

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:53:03 2020 No.11863238 File: 38 KB, 1272x877, raw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Blocks your path Nothing personal Starship.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:54:07 2020 No.11863240 >>11863238 literally who

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:54:18 2020 No.11863241 >>11863183 is oneweb kill

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:57:17 2020 No.11863247 File: 49 KB, 1100x752, 5e84b8a914f18f635d6101b4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863240 Space Shuttle making comeback.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:58:58 2020 No.11863251 >>11863247 That looks like some horrible abomination I put together in KSP

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:59:15 2020 No.11863252 >>11863247 That's not a very positive comparison anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:59:23 2020 No.11863253 File: 526 KB, 942x614, aks.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Black Ice is USSR striking back from grave at SpaceX. https://falsesteps.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/sidebar-the-tupolev-oos/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:13:17 2020 No.11863277 >>11862991 why dont we just 3d print the asteroids on earth

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:14:56 2020 No.11863279 >>11863277 Don't wake up the proontfag pls.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:16:33 2020 No.11863282 >>11863277 >expendable asteroids

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:16:43 2020 No.11863284 >>11863238 >Starship Tell me when you can launch yourself, sweetie. Lifting body? More like a falling body!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:20:24 2020 No.11863292 >>11863183 >OneWeb was bought out by the Brits Does this mean Starlink will be banned in the UK?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:22:36 2020 No.11863296 >>11863292 and India? I could see the Indian company using its resources to get Starlink banned in a bunch of countries.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:24:56 2020 No.11863299 [DELETED]

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>first crewed mission into polar orbit, should be pretty routine so I assign it to one of my new pilots as his first flight
>RD-119 on upper stage experiences unplanned high speed disassembly during orbit insertion burn
>detach capsule and flip around to set up for reentry
>in upper atmosphere when suddenly remember that haven't disposed of the emergency deorbit solid rockets under capsule and quickly go fire them to get them off before reentry heating hits
>firing causes capsule to start tumbling and aerodynamic forces are too strong to regain correct attitude now
>heatshield gets torn off just as main heating hits
>AHHHH PIZDETS PIZDETS PIZDETS WARNING WARNING CABIN OVERHEAT WARNING WARNING PIZDEETTSS WARNING WARNING
>deacceleration peaks at 14g and capsule overheat bar goes to 90% but by the grace of god alone starts cooling before it explodes
goddamn I thought that was the end for dmitry, I'm amazed my space program still has a record of 0 crew fatalities

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:27:01 2020 No.11863302 >>11863292 >miniscule amount invested into an inferior constellation that will be relegated to specialty roles No? They basically have no overlap at all beyond consisting of more than a handful satellites

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:28:32 2020 No.11863304 >>11863292 No, they're used for a GPS constellation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:28:35 2020 No.11863306 Someone on NSF said that Airbus is involved in OneWeb, so the UK can use OneWeb as leverage against the EU for kicking the UK out of Galileo production.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:36:29 2020 No.11863318

>>11863304
The GPS thing is an addon, the primary function is still going to be satellite internet. The Indian company that bought it is a telecom company.

>The deal will enable the company to complete construction of a global satellite constellation that will provide enhanced broadband and other services to countries around the world.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-government-to-acquire-cutting-edge-satellite-network

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Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:50:28 2020 No.11863342
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>>11863306
I think we left on our own, quite a hissyfit, if our government weren't completely retarded they could have at least sold our stake in it to ESA to cover some of the dev costs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:11:16 2020 No.11863378 File: 112 KB, 1024x682, 1567091969363.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Which way is up?

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Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:19:35 2020 No.11863397
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>>11862584
China launched a new remote sensing satellite on Friday from the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center. Launch of the Gaofen multi-mode integrated imaging satellite took place at 03:10 UTC from the LC9 launch Complex using the Long March-4B (Y43) rocket. The new remote sensing satellite was accompanied by the small Xibaipo (BY 70-2) on its ride to orbit.

According to the official Chinese media, the satellite is a civil-use optical remote-sensing vehicle with a resolution up to the sub-meter level. It will operate in Sun-synchronous orbit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiNkGlFm1bA

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:22:17 2020 No.11863401 >sun synchronous orbits only work around oblate bodies bro what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:24:52 2020 No.11863407 https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1279004239109468160 what are they on to

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:26:39 2020 No.11863412

>>11863407
>https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1279004239109468160

"The specialists of the Keldysh Center have developed a method of applying a thermoregulation coating made of aluminum oxide to the parts of an electric rocket engine - https://roscosmos.ru/28763/..

Nanosystems and nanodevices are being developed there to introduce the latest space technologies."

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:26:47 2020 No.11863415 >>11863407 >the russian space program, desperate for new sources of income, starts selling swords forged in the soyuz exhaust

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:31:30 2020 No.11863423 File: 190 KB, 610x2596, 13154839915334.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863412 >Nanosystems and nanodevices For old times' sake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:49:11 2020 No.11863466 File: 414 KB, 775x1419, Vostroyan_veteran_sentry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863415 i'd buy one desu. add slav dashcam meteorite to the alloy and i'd pay double

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:08:01 2020 No.11863499 >>11863378 Direction is relative. Down basically means "towards Earth," so in Space "down" is whatever direction Earth is.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:09:55 2020 No.11863507 >>11863378 It looks like the solar panels are skycrapers when you're looking towards the sky

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:13:38 2020 No.11863513 >>11862584 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUpi6j-OVFg

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:14:49 2020 No.11863515 Something else about OneWeb, they were scheduled to launch on Soyuz out of Russia, but because of the satnav component, they may switch to a launcher from an allied country. SpaceX?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:15:23 2020 No.11863516 >>11863487 >>11863491 >>11863493 >>11863496 >>11863498 >>11863502 What game is this? It's definitely not KSP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:18:20 2020 No.11863520 >>11863516 Simple rockets.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:21:32 2020 No.11863532 >>11863515 Soyuz from French New Guinea, the ESA bought Soyuz variant.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:21:54 2020 No.11863534

>>11863183
>>11863201
>>11863211
>>11863221
>>11863292
I have no fucking idea what the UK government are playing at with this, unless it's a way of getting a military comms constellation on the cheap. I can't believe the 'retrofit GPS' idea is really credible, and don't they need hundreds more for the full comms constellation, whilst facing a competitor with drastically lower launch costs in SpaceX? I really am worried the UK government have just spunked away £400m for nothing, but then they seemed happy to piss away tens of billions on the gay lockdown so what's another few hundred million down the drain eh?

Surely they can't be this clueless or badly advised?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:22:33 2020 No.11863539 >>11863532 Arianespace bought*

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:23:19 2020 No.11863544 >>11863532 Only some launches were planned to be from Guiana.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:23:30 2020 No.11863546 >>11862666 >How many villagers? What, do they have human sacrifices before every launch??

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:23:34 2020 No.11863547 >>11863534 The competitor to UK GPS isn't SpaceX, its EU. EU doesn't want to give UK access to their GPS

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:24:55 2020 No.11863550 >>11863534 >>11863547 The UK was also planning on building their own GPS/Galileo variant for billions of pounds. Getting a version of it for 400 million pounds is a steal compared to that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:28:28 2020 No.11863560 >>11863547 >>11863550 How exactly do they retrofit GPS though? Do these things have sufficiently accurate atomic clocks etc? Is it just a case of flashing some FPGAs or something?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:31:23 2020 No.11863567

>>11863534
MP's are dumb boomers and pure swindlers, just look at how they are pushing through HS2 despite every proposed 'benefit' being proven to be complete bullshit from the start. It's ok for them though since they are mates and shareholders in the construction companies and will reap nice dividends as it inevitably goes overbudget and drags on for years. Same when they 'invested' in that ferry company that went bust and didn't make anything. Any project they touch ends up being like this, so I expect whatever they're doing with OneWeb to be no different

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:33:18 2020 No.11863571 >>11862830 >I swear this was deliberately put in the stupidest possible orbit so they needed SLS Block 2 no you're getting it!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:34:26 2020 No.11863573 >>11863567 Well that's what I was thinking basically. It stinks

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:34:30 2020 No.11863574
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>>11863560
I don't know. I heard there was a paper on it but I never looked for it. This tweet chain suggests three different approaches could be made though https://twitter.com/brianweeden/status/1276537214894292992
>one option would be to have the OneWeb constellation broadcast the same signals as GPS, which is what the Japanese QZSS system does:
>use OneWeb as an augmentation and enhancement system like the American WAAS or European EGNOS
>embed a navigation message into the Ka/Ku brodband signal, similar to what Satelles does with Iridium Next

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:34:45 2020 No.11863576

>>11863560
Dunno, but I think there maybe some trick to use satellites to bounce time from ground station and get accurate clocks instead of installing a atomic clock in the satellites. GLONASS/GPS orbit at 20K km up and OneWeb orbits @ 1K km. Few bounces from surface may be faster at LEO orbit than single bounce to GEO sats with internal clocks.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:36:11 2020 No.11863580

>>11863534
>military comms on the cheap
>>11863550
>GPS on the cheap
Some combination of these is my guess.

Building out OneWeb to meet its original scope is far beyond the UK's capabilities unless they suddenly decide to dedicate more than a nominal effort and budget to space.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:40:31 2020 No.11863590

>>11863574
Interesting

>>11863576
If expect them to have a highly accurate clock on board anyway as I'm guessing even the comms tech would need it, but whether it's accurate enough or would require some other jiggery pokery is the question

>>11863580
Yeah that's what I thought. Can't even launch ourselves atm ffs. Perhaps the £400m would have been better spent on a new peroxide launcher

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:40:41 2020 No.11863591

>>11863574
>embed a navigation message into the Ka/Ku brodband signal, similar to what Satelles does with Iridium Next
>Satelles delivers a solution for global time and location that is completely independent from GPS and is available today. Originating from the Iridium® constellation of 66 low-Earth-orbiting (LEO) satellites, Satellite Time and Location (STL) is 1000 times stronger than GPS, reaching deep into buildings without the aid of local infrastructure. Cryptographic security features of STL also provide exceptional resilience to attempted signal disruption and attack. STL perfectly complements GPS and other location-based technologies and provides the absolute height of security.
huh, I never knew this existed

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:42:37 2020 No.11863595 File: 199 KB, 311x278, 1582990414066.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863534 >Surely they can't be this clueless or badly advised?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:43:07 2020 No.11863596
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>>11863573
Should have just spent that money on Starlink desu, an instant £400m would allow Elon to expand the constellation massively. Imagine if they could negotiate the cash boost for something like a nice 5-10% stake in it since they're planning on going public anyway, would be an amazing return for the treasury in 10 years. But no one ever thinks ahead more than 6 months

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:43:22 2020 No.11863597 File: 13 KB, 121x200, titan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Crewed chemical rockets to Saturn >Crewed chemical rockets to Saturn

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:44:32 2020 No.11863601 >Note: Iridium-NEXT 127 was renamed Iridium-NEXT 100 before launch due to a ground software issue, which prevented the use of the number 127. kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:45:14 2020 No.11863603 File: 113 KB, 500x584, 1586597047067.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863571 the master plan

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:46:29 2020 No.11863605 >>11863601 Goodness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:47:09 2020 No.11863607 >>11863596 >>11863596 Basically they aren't really paying for capability but exclusivity/control. Investing in Starlink doesn't give them that

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:50:23 2020 No.11863613
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>>11863590
>give half the money to Skyrora
>give the other half to Orbex to build the Sutherland Spaceport
>Peroxide-kerosine Skyrora XL is finally built, first operational UK rocket since Black Arrow was scrapped in '71
>this won't happen
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:54:06 2020 No.11863621 >>11863487 >>11863491 >>11863493 >>11863496 >>11863498 >>11863502 specs nao

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:55:37 2020 No.11863627 >>11863397 spews gaseous cancer dumps booster on villagers

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:08:13 2020 No.11863650 >>11863591 It will be pretty damn funny if UK btfos Gaylileo for £400m. We should also shut down their ground stations on Falkland and Ascension.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:16:06 2020 No.11863667 >>11863546 No, they sacrifice them shortly after when the booster uses them to soften its landing. much cheaper to do a murder burn than a suicide burn

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:20:07 2020 No.11863681

>>11863299
>launch repeat mission, this time flown by my best pilot and first kerbal in space
>fail to make orbit again, this time because of performance loss on first stage main engine shortly after launch
>reenter and land in arctic
>get out to take some soil samples and crew report as long as I'm here, why not
>forgot to put laddder on capsule, cant climb back in after exiting
>wait around for a while because I want to see what it looks like when the sun comes up
>pilot fucking freezes to death outside because he didn't have a helmet on
fuck I turned KSP into soyuz 23 simulator

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:22:48 2020 No.11863687 >>11863681 Do a fake Duna mission by landing on Kerbin’s poles. It’s all a conspiracy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:24:34 2020 No.11863695 File: 150 KB, 1080x770, 1590905673177.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863546 more of a post-launch sacrifice desu

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:25:37 2020 No.11863698 File: 123 KB, 214x1976, Skyrora-XL.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863613 soon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:28:55 2020 No.11863707 >SpaceX award 80MSFC20C0034: Total Contract Value $2.252B >Dynetics award 80MSFC20C0035: Total Contract Value $5.273B >Blue Origin award 80MSFC20C0020: Total Contract Value: $10.182B ...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:30:24 2020 No.11863709 >>11863707 The Lunar lander contract award total values*

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:32:20 2020 No.11863712 >>11863707 there's a second selection process so lower is better

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:32:24 2020 No.11863713 >>11863667 The real question is can they incorporate villagers into abort systems, as ablative shielding or even as fuel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:32:48 2020 No.11863714 >>11862600 Can't wait for next Heavy. We got the 3 landings, but we never got a heavy core stage re-use.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:33:51 2020 No.11863718 >>11862677 Looks accurate with the early testing data.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:34:52 2020 No.11863724 >>11862708 >Airbus firing 5000 people over Yurop. Today's news.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:36:05 2020 No.11863728 >>11862830 Gateway is fucking stupid, you don't have to look at orbits and shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:39:05 2020 No.11863731 >>11862991 can you get methane out of asteroids?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:40:05 2020 No.11863737 File: 53 KB, 640x480, joe-biden-creep-AP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not American, but what's Biden plan for NASA? Is space industry all in for Trump?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:40:10 2020 No.11863738 >>11863731 BRAAAPsteroids

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:42:47 2020 No.11863745 >>11863713 This

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:48:21 2020 No.11863758 >>11863737 The silence is deafening. Guess nobody knows what a next democrat mandate would mean for American spaceflight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:48:45 2020 No.11863762 >>11863737 I don't think anyone knows. Space is usually a low priority for presidents.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:52:31 2020 No.11863768 >>11863737 ...oh god he's really going to win isn't he

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:52:34 2020 No.11863769 >>11863762 Just saying but SLS might be re cancelled. Or fund will go to reparation to black communities or whatnot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:53:43 2020 No.11863773 >>11863769 Presidents don't have that much control over NASA, only Congress does.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:55:08 2020 No.11863779 >>11863773 You think I'm joking. Please listen to 5 minutes of Joe Biden speaking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:55:39 2020 No.11863783 >>11863762 We need a president who's a space nerd. /sfg/ presidential nominee when?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:56:07 2020 No.11863785 >>11863737 sample SNIFF missions

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:04:52 2020 No.11863806 >>11863737 How does America not have better choices for president than an obese tangerine and a senile pedo?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:05:01 2020 No.11863808 >>11863773 The US government will collapse into a civil war between communists and everyone else if Biden wins don’t worry

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:05:34 2020 No.11863810 >>11863783 I think Trump is as good as we gonna get. He even was there for Crew Dragon launch. It was never done since first shuttle launches I think. Funding is a thing, but having the president fucking come to launches is another.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:06:03 2020 No.11863813 >>11863806 Trump is a good dude.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:06:26 2020 No.11863815 >>11863813 >does literally nothing except fund israel more Sure

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:07:06 2020 No.11863817
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This is Dr. Harrison H. Schmitt, the only professional scientist to have walked on the moon. Wish him a happy 85th birthday.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1eGYgu0hs1I

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:07:24 2020 No.11863818 >>11863808 That's worrying in itself. People will die for nothing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:08:18 2020 No.11863821 >>11863550 >"is a steal" £400m is worth less than single GPS III that SpaceX just launched for Space Force. Bong is pretty delusional if think they can build a GPS system for that money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:08:36 2020 No.11863823 >>11863817 Was he the guy from Apollo 17? Happy birthday to him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:09:46 2020 No.11863827 >>11863815 >does nothing For space flight, that's the best president we had in decades.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:12:53 2020 No.11863833 >>11863806 populism is a virus

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:13:38 2020 No.11863837 I'm so glad SpaceX isn't a gobernment agency. This way they'll keep blowing up steel cylinders without a care for nothing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:14:59 2020 No.11863841 >>11863833 Except it prevents you from random protests.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:17:01 2020 No.11863846 File: 1.69 MB, 3116x2127, 1588747237061.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863815 Literally every leader does that anyway. As long as he keeps supporting space, I don't care

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:17:42 2020 No.11863849 >>11863378 the opposite of the direction gravity is pulling from the most

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:18:09 2020 No.11863850 File: 2.13 MB, 1917x1078, 1590869559191.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863810 kino

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:19:41 2020 No.11863857 >>11863821 They aren't the main financial backer, the Indian company is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:22:22 2020 No.11863865 File: 7 KB, 754x267, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863849 what now?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:23:25 2020 No.11863868 So I'm just saying. If you're a Space enthusiast, what vote is good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:23:43 2020 No.11863869 >>11863865 when there are two equally pulling bodies, "up" is a 2D direction instead of a 1D direction

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:24:26 2020 No.11863871 File: 5 KB, 754x267, up.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863865 are you retard??

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:25:07 2020 No.11863874 >>11863871 No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:25:15 2020 No.11863875 File: 2.63 MB, 853x480, GoPro2020-06-30 15-22-39[sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fiae9ks.wav].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862677

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:25:21 2020 No.11863876 File: 118 KB, 680x583, 1590938550272.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863868 the one that best supports the Space Force

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:25:49 2020 No.11863877 File: 1.10 MB, 1920x1080, KSP_x64 2020-07-03 11-25-13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bros we need to go BIGGER

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:25:55 2020 No.11863878 >>11863868 stability is always best for space

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:26:27 2020 No.11863881 >>11863876 I know right? I bet Dems don't even know about space to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:26:53 2020 No.11863883 >>11863868 Not gonna get better than Trump this time around, he is on record giving a shit about space while his opponent is not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:28:43 2020 No.11863890 >>11863818 They die to eradicate communism. A glorious death against the forces of evil.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:29:07 2020 No.11863892 >>11863877 Does it land?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:31:02 2020 No.11863896

President Tucker when?
>>11863890
don't kid yourself, if there is a civil war, north america will be plunged into a mad max style nightmare for several decades. i wouldn't want such a thing unless there was no other choice (say radical leftists got in complete control and banned spaceflight)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:31:10 2020 No.11863898 >>11863892 if by land you mean drop boosters full of AK27 on villagers then yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:31:32 2020 No.11863900 >>11863817 He is such a cool dude, imagine being a geologist and getting to go to the fucking MOON to do field work. Also he hates bill nye.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:32:47 2020 No.11863902 >>11863900 > Also he hates bill nye. based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:32:51 2020 No.11863903 >>11863883 trump said he wanted the US to get to mars 8 years later in his inauguration speech january 2017 even if he gets reelected it seems like nasa is no way ready for that, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:32:54 2020 No.11863905 Well anyways, if Biden gets elected, prepare for everything getting cancelled, and your tax money going towards reparations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:32:56 2020 No.11863906 >space force >bridenstine >boobs on the moon what else has trump given us?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:34:39 2020 No.11863907 >>11863898 Based Chang.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:35:29 2020 No.11863910 >>11863906 I'm all for boobs on the Moon, but it didn't happen.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:35:34 2020 No.11863911

>>11863903
>even if he gets reelected it seems like nasa is no way ready for that, right?
SpaceX might actually get to mars by 2026, but I doubt they'd be able to use NASA astronauts for that. Using NASA astronauts would delay things by half a decade at the very minimum. I wonder if NASA will perform their own mars missions, separate from SpaceX, just for national prestige and to prove to your average normie american they still deserve funding.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:37:28 2020 No.11863916 >>11863903 SpaceX might do it. Nasa never had a rocket to get ther to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:37:43 2020 No.11863918 >>11862994 Starting southward lets you launch from California, Alaska, or Rocket Lab's NZ pad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:39:32 2020 No.11863924 >>11863911 SpaceX will just send a bunch of e-celeb there to die off. I fully believe they can get there, but I absolutely doubt they can bring back people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:40:25 2020 No.11863928 >>11863868 One party wants to turn the country into South Africa by 2030, the other wants to do the same but by 2050. Choose wisely

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:42:03 2020 No.11863935 >>11863924 Why? Producing propellant in situ isn’t so difficult.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:42:30 2020 No.11863938 >>11863928 Yeah, I'm sure some absolute nationalist has a plan to make white people reproduce without looking outright racist.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:42:47 2020 No.11863940
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>>11863900
It's a shame that the nation whose flag he put on the moon is getting fucked by anti-spaceflight communists and a Chinese bioweapon.

I hope that he is having a good day, wherever he is.

Has anyone met him? Maybe the first 4ASS satellite could be named for him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:43:04 2020 No.11863941 >>11863868 Republicans, obviously, but presidents in general don’t care about spaceflight. Trump is an anomaly in favoring it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:43:31 2020 No.11863944 >>11863935 Did you watch all the serial numbers blowing up? They're supposed to do that on Mars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:44:25 2020 No.11863946 >>11863896 > don't kid yourself, if there is a civil war, north america will be plunged into a mad max style nightmare for several decades If I didn’t have kids, that would sound promising.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:45:32 2020 No.11863949 >>11863940 >Designated Schmitting Sat

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:45:49 2020 No.11863951 >>11863944 With production Starships, not prototypes. They pressurize the propellant tanks more than they’ll actually be pressurized in use during testing to make sure they’re strong enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:46:34 2020 No.11863952 >>11863946 It's not gonna happen. Trump is just letting it happen to get re-elected.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:48:21 2020 No.11863957 >>11863951 It just looks like they can't solder it right. Now, a Mars crew wouldn't need it to be full pressure to get back to Erf, but you need flow to the engine.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:48:29 2020 No.11863959

>>11863944
>Did you watch all the serial numbers blowing up?
SN5 and SN4 both passed cryo testing, SN7 is rumored to have passed 8.5 bar, SN4 didn't even fail itself, the GSE failed, and I fully believe SpaceX will be able to iron out any GSE issues, especially considering they have over a decade of experience with GSE. Your entire argument seems like unsubstantiated doomerism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:49:38 2020 No.11863962 anyone who unironically thinks twitter checkmarks and hollywood sycophants are the makings of a "revolution" needs a reality check

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:49:38 2020 No.11863963 >>11863783 Bridenstine for president.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:51:05 2020 No.11863968 >>11863959 Good. Now watch as SN5 blows up as well in the next fucking days.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:52:07 2020 No.11863972 >>11863963 I'd vote for him if I was American.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:53:20 2020 No.11863975 File: 46 KB, 870x591, zzzzz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863952 >4D chess guys!!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:54:40 2020 No.11863978 >>11863963 Big Jim would just drop rods from god on any country giving us problems, shutdown all welfare programs and commie bs, and divert all money to science and exploration

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:55:33 2020 No.11863982 >>11863975 >The polls are right this time guys haha

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:56:19 2020 No.11863984 >>11863975 >oh no we pushed a bunch of suppression polls after the riots we deliberately provoked and now the average fell haha whoops kys kike

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:56:50 2020 No.11863985 >>11863952 Maybe. Maybe not. I remain optimistic, but what America needs is a Pinochet, not another republican.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:59:22 2020 No.11863990

>>11863975
Trump made a bunch of stupid decisions about the riots. I unironically believe that if he actually tried to send in the military to disperse protested there would have been a coup—literally every high ranking military official came out with a statement about how their duty is to the constitution.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 14:59:33 2020 No.11863992

>>11863982
The polls in 2016 were pretty accurate. They had Trump and Hillary within a point the week of the election. Trump lost the popular vote by 3 mil and was carried by very marginal victories in swing states. Not even close to the disparity that exists now.

>>11863984
A complacent goy is a good goy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:04:08 2020 No.11864002 >>11863990 >We should do nothing about criminals destroying cities xD Cucked military.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:05:58 2020 No.11864004
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>>11863576
I'm gonna guess that in a high-speed comms satellite, they probably put an atomic clock in there anyhow, just to keep the data synchronized and shit. It's not like those are enormous expensive bespoke things anymore.
Much more important would be that the radio can transmit the nav beacon on an appropriate frequency. Also important is the re-entry lifetime, but at least they're higher than Starlink. And there's probably a few dozen spares in a hangar somewhere.
>>11863591
Noice.
>>11863595
Never assume that a government agency can't screw shit up. But they may have gotten a steal of a deal this time after all.
>>11863607
Right. They can own (more or less, depending on the pajeets I hear were involved in the deal) those satellites completely.
>>11863681
Fly safe!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:07:17 2020 No.11864009 >>11863949 Based

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:12:30 2020 No.11864019

>>11864002
>the president should use emergency powers designed to stop militarized rebellion threatening the sovereignty of the state, overreach the constitutional authority of his position and subvert the entire governmental system which was designed to protect the people from the government, all to stop unarmed youth from breaking into Targets
if you're a US citizen and you think this isn't an offense worthy of military coup, you're beyond cucked. You're a serf. Read a fucking book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:13:23 2020 No.11864021 >>11863962 this. get your heads out of social media and student politics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:13:39 2020 No.11864022 >>11863968 why

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:15:10 2020 No.11864025 >>11864002 military is run by (((marxists))) like all other institutions, what do you expect? We can only hope they don't start mass arresting dissenters, because at that point the only way out is boogaloo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:15:12 2020 No.11864026 >>11864004 >Never assume that a government agency can't screw shit up. i always assume they will screw it up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:17:39 2020 No.11864028 >>11864019 >Stealing okay >haha what u mean stealin bad read da books aboot stealin and how cool it is Yawn. All rioters should be shot dead by attack helicopters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:18:10 2020 No.11864030 >>11864019 Who's cucked here, the ones who want communists and uppity minorities kill or put in jail or the ones who are fine with handing over institutional power to groups who hate them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:20:29 2020 No.11864033 >>11864028 >stealing bad so we should become an authoritarian police state to stop stealing you realize this is precisely the neomarxist train of thought

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:22:24 2020 No.11864041 File: 226 KB, 563x651, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863810 >>11863900 >>11863850 >>11863883 >>11863896 >>11863905 >>11863906 >>11863940 >>11863941 >>11863962 >>11863978

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:22:48 2020 No.11864042 >>11864028 Agreed. Attack rockets would be better, though.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:23:07 2020 No.11864043

>>11864033
>stealing bad so we should become an authoritarian police state to stop stealing

Yes.

> you realize this is precisely the neomarxist train of thought

No, that’s “stealing is good so we should become an authoritarian police state to steal more.”

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:24:11 2020 No.11864049 >>11864046 luv big J me

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:24:26 2020 No.11864050 >There’s L2 info about plans beyond SN5 Alright L2 cucks hand it over

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:24:29 2020 No.11864051 >>11864046 I bet Jupiter tastes nice

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:25:26 2020 No.11864057 >>11864050 Why L2 cucks don't share info? They have to sign a cuck pledge?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:25:30 2020 No.11864058 File: 310 KB, 1024x1024, Apollo17_Rover_Cernan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [eurobeat intensifies]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:26:50 2020 No.11864061 File: 28 KB, 600x600, bogdanoff call.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864041

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:29:03 2020 No.11864067 >>11864041 >if you don't share my ideology you are (insert insult here) ok boomer

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:29:34 2020 No.11864071 >>11864058 >>>/wsg/3533663

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:30:51 2020 No.11864074 >>11864041 Dude! haha nice maymay, Ive been thoroughly insulted. Take an upvote XD

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:31:06 2020 No.11864075
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>>11864058
>The rovers were designed with a top speed of about 8 mph (13 km/h), although Eugene Cernan recorded a maximum speed of 11.2 mph (18.0 km/h), giving him the (unofficial) lunar land-speed record.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:32:44 2020 No.11864079 File: 2.88 MB, 671x1710, Gene_Gottagofast_Cernan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864075

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:36:56 2020 No.11864086 Politics stops after this post

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:39:38 2020 No.11864094 Scientifically speaking, is the Russian space program operated by the white race?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:40:20 2020 No.11864096 File: 1 KB, 150x150, earth and moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864086 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:45:43 2020 No.11864105 >>11864079 i just can't get over how we sent a CAR to the moon. Driving that thing looked so fun.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:53:40 2020 No.11864113
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>>11864071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZVMpgBbXos

>>11864105
We're not officially a spacefaring civilization until people have both the desire and the delta-V budget for orbital pilgrimages to Elon's roadster.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:01:07 2020 No.11864130 >>11864113 Retrofitting Elon's roadster with side thrusters when?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:09:31 2020 No.11864142 >>11864113 SpaceX will recapture it before anyone can, because the dummy is a dead body.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:21:26 2020 No.11864162
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>>11863817

LMP: ..."It's ORANGE!!!"
LMP: "Orange soil!"
CDR: "Really?"
LMP: "Yeah, it's ORANGE!"
CDR: "Don't move it until I see it."
LMP: "I stirred it up wtih my boot! :D "
CDR: "It is! It's ORANGE!"

Furthest drive, furthest distance from a pressurizable spacecraft. EVA-2 remains the supreme achievement in extravehicular activity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:22:16 2020 No.11864163 I'm glad there won't be any conservatives on Mars

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:22:36 2020 No.11864164 So coming wednesday for static fire and thursday for Starlink launch. Can't wait.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:27:02 2020 No.11864169 >>11863299 I lost Jeb a day into my save after his deorbit brought him down off-course and his capsule smashed into a fuckhuge mountain at hypersonic velocity before it had a chance to slow down for chute deployment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:27:06 2020 No.11864171 >>11864046 Let's have crewed missions to Jupiter someday :D

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:28:17 2020 No.11864174 >>11864164 pls no pop i want to see a (non-nitrogen cold gas thruster) hop

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:29:37 2020 No.11864177 File: 18 KB, 554x554, images (15).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864019 Doesn't matter if you can't deploy the military against civilians when the police force is outfitted with basically the same gear.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:29:52 2020 No.11864179

>>11864163
>he thinks nasa and spacex are going to survive cancel culture
Half the country thinks nasa was founded by the nazis, and elon musk will inevitably be painted in the future as some sort of unwitting white supremacist who benefited from apartheid and therefore needs to have his wealth redistributed to the colored masses.
No one is going to mars. When you deliberately attempt to turn your constituency into the cast of idiocracy, you reap what you sow.
Hell, I'd be surprised if Artemis survives the Biden administration.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:30:10 2020 No.11864180 >>11864174 Everyone's waiting for a hop, but the chances may be slim.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:30:57 2020 No.11864182 >>11864163 I'm glad there won't be any niggers on Mars.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:35:30 2020 No.11864190
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>>11864075

Each craft was officially designated LRV-1, 2 and 3, respectively-no nicknames were ever used.

A plaque was affixed to the control panel of LRV-1, commemorating its status as the first car on the Moon. Something I'd like to know (but have never been able to find out) is whether similar ceremonial stuff was affixed to the other two, or if they just skipped it for the last missions.

Although the buggy was designed so that either astronaut could grab the stick if needed, only the commander drove, while the LMP was just a passenger who navigated. Thus, only three people ever drove on the Moon (although six "rode" on the Moon).

>>11864105

The only hope of putting a sick whip on the Moon was to utilize an un-used quadrant compartment on the LM's descent stage. Engineers came up with a tiny fold-y design which worked, and threw it all together in seventeen months. The result was a game-changer for the J-missions, meaning that the astronauts could do much more than just dink around within a mile or so of their landing site.

The control panel/dashboard reported three critical numbers: bearing (an angular argument of orientation with respect to the LM), distance (the odometer: distance driven on a sortie) and RANGE, current distance from the LM. When Geno and Jack got to Nansen crater at the South Massif, LRV-3 reported a range of 7.6 km (4.7 mi) from the LM, a number which Geno clearly stated at the appropriate spot in a mission transcript. This remains the furthest that humans have ever sojourned away from a pressurizable spacecraft, in the vacuum of space, in history.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:42:57 2020 No.11864207 >>11864179 Doomer bait.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:45:26 2020 No.11864213 File: 167 KB, 1746x1206, Who_will_most_likely_bring_the_first_human_to_Mars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864179 Fuck off filthy t*rran doomer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:49:13 2020 No.11864223 File: 3.38 MB, 5181x2428, AS17-140-21493+AS17-140-21497.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864190

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:53:37 2020 No.11864236

"It was my position that the probability of the Rover failing was small, so why waste our time in training or planning on walking traverses that you could put together fairly easily in real-time. You knew basically where you wanted to go and you just would have to see how well you were doing and how much energy it was going to take. We couldn't have taken all of the equipment, but we had the bags for samples. I'm not sure we could have mounted SCBs on both sides of the PLSSs - might only have had one apiece - but we could have put quite a bit of equipment in one SCB and samples in the other. It would have been awkward, but there would be no question that we would have gotten something done. The real question is how far we could have gone. And I suspect that on the first EVA we wouldn't have gone very far until we were use to it. But it is still my contention that, if you got up-to-speed striding, you could have gone as far as you did with the Rover. It just would have taken more energy and your walkback constraints would have changed. I'm sure the Flight Control people would have been very conservative with walkback, at least with the first two EVAs; we might have gotten the envelope opened up a little bit for the third. I doubt if they would have let us go to Nansen, because that was right at the edge of the Rover walkback envelope; but we probably could have gotten up the hillside to Station 6, simply by going sidehill rather than directly uphill like the Apollo 14 guys did. But I just couldn't imagine very many reasonable failures that would keep you from having the Rover. You had front and rear wheel drive so you could go either way; and you could lift it out of any hole it got into." - Schmitt

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:57:21 2020 No.11864239 >>11864163 Are you sure about that?

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Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:58:48 2020 No.11864244
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>>11864236

And yet, they managed to fuck it up somewhat every single time. LRV-1 had steering problems, and for a few tense minutes, the people who'd built it worried that the damn thing wouldn't drive at all. But it worked out.

On 16 and 17, a clumsy commander (in both cases) knocked off a bit of the fender. They fixed it with spare maps and duct tape. One major defect in the vehicle: no cup holders.

Apollo 17 traverse map. Note what a long boi EVA-2 is.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:58:57 2020 No.11864245

"We had lots of discussions about walkback and the rules that we came up with were generally compromises. If some of the real conservative people had had their way, we wouldn't have gone more than a mile from the LM; but we finally decided that we wouldn't consider a worst-case worst case of both the Rover and one of the PLSSs failing. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been much point in taking the Rover. If you didn't fight for what you thought was right, you'd go all the way to the Moon but be so limited in your capabilities that you couldn't get anything done because you were afraid of a failure. When you go all the way to the Moon, you've got to take some risks. It's like having a two-foot putt to win the Masters and then lagging it because you don't want to three-putt. You don't want to take unnecessary risks; but the Rover had four drive motors and two sets of batteries and the chance of both the Rover and one of the PLSSs failing was pretty small." - Cernan

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:59:35 2020 No.11864247 >>11864236 >mom why do we have to walk down to moon mart? Can't we just take the rover?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:00:09 2020 No.11864249 >>11864223 (note: you can see the LM in the distance)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:03:28 2020 No.11864261 >>11864247 >because you are John Madden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM4W8eXE0bI

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:05:13 2020 No.11864265

>>11864240

Note America's exposed SIM bay. (America is the name of this particular CSM). While the boys hopped around on the moon for a few days, the CMP was able to use the Command Module to take detailed scans of the Lunar surface from an orbital perspective. This was the "I-type" mission objective, extensive lunar orbital mapping, which was ultimately rolled into the J-missions. During the return journey, the CP would perform a brief EVA to retrieve film and other gear. The SIM bay was designed with tactical hand grips and foot rests to aid the astronaut.

These three EVAs represent the only times that human beings have gone outside a spacecraft in "deep space", at great remove from any planetary body. Alfred Worden was the first (he just checked out), then Ken Mattingly. When Ron Evans got the gear and got back inside America, he had completed the real, final EVA of the Apollo program (technically, Skylab and ASTP don't count, but were the "bonus missions/bonus DLC" following Apollo proper).

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:05:49 2020 No.11864268

"There are three things that I remember most about the Rover ride. Number one, when you were driving east into the Sun, it was almost impossible to see things ahead of you. When you were driving cross-Sun you had much better visibility and depth perception because of the shadows; and even driving down-Sun you could certainly see the boulders. Second was the fact that you often couldn't see small craters and they were important in the same way that potholes are to you when you're driving down the highway. The difference is that, in one-sixth gravity, when you do hit a boulder or you do drop one wheel in a small crater, you literally lift the Rover off the ground. I mean, you were literally driving on three wheels a good part of the time. It wasn't a choppy, sports-car feel, driving down the highway going bang-bang, bang. It was more of a waltz. Boom, and you go u-u-up and come down. Hit another one; u-u-up and come down. And, of course, not only did the Rover bounce but so did we. So it was a very good thing that we had snug seatbelts. Without them, we could easily have bounced out of the seats. And, lastly, the reduced gravity was particularly noticeable when you were driving on the side of a hill. I remember many times when we were driving on the side of a hill and Jack commenting that we were going to roll over. And indeed, because you have less gravity holding you down on the Moon, that was not a false perception; it was fact. You had to be careful on the side of a hill, because if you hit a bump with an uphill wheel, you could lift the thing off the ground and possibly become unstable and tip over. Of course, the situation was more obvious if you were in the downhill seat and I tried to keep Jack on the downside. It was much more comfortable on the uphill side; and that's a commander's prerogative when he's driving the Rover." -Cernan

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:10:01 2020 No.11864280 >>11863941 >Trump is an anomaly in favoring it. He doesn't though he's just riding SpaceXs and commercial crew's success

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:13:25 2020 No.11864286 >>11863850 Where's the ULA sniper when you need him?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:14:48 2020 No.11864289 >>11864280 >He doesn't though This is the least correct post of the thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:20:38 2020 No.11864299 File: 113 KB, 1260x696, a17stitch20522-25eh-sm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:20:56 2020 No.11864301 >>11864280 >the president who gave us the space force isn't pro-spaceflight

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:31:19 2020 No.11864311 >>11864268 Fugg riding a motorbike on the moon is going to be amazing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:33:42 2020 No.11864316 >>11864289 >Implying he actually cares about spaceflight >Implying it's not just an ego and vote boosting vehicle I'm glad he gets money to Spacex but don't be delusional.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:39:57 2020 No.11864327 >>11864301 He really isn't pro anything besides himself. He doesn't care about space, he cares about accomplishments that he can claim credit for. If he was pro-space he'd be pushing for solid budgets and realistic timetables.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:45:25 2020 No.11864332 >>11864327 Trump likes space in the same way I liked playing with boats in the bathtub when I was three. Appreciate what you have because Biden will defund NASA to the bone except for climate change studying, and give all the money to joggers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:53:23 2020 No.11864350 >>11864332 If Biden defunds NASA (which is NOT their expectation, btw) it will be part of an overall budget reduction. Yes, climatology will expand and that will take away from exploration, but not to an enormous extent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:55:56 2020 No.11864358 >>11864327 I'm glad there are mind readers out there, like you, that can save us from ignorance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:57:09 2020 No.11864360 >>11864350 Enjoy communists burning your house down for being white

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:57:19 2020 No.11864362
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>>11862673
Gonna try to play career mode until a manned Munnar landing before moving on to KSP2/RO-RP1. Got some stiff contracts early on though. There's no severe penalty in ignoring some of them, right? This rocket in particular was supposed to be recoverable, but it's ballistic properties are too bad for a chute recovery without some propulsive landings and margins are too small for that right now. Although, I really like how varied the stock 1.25m tanks are. It's fun to mix-and-match different patterns to make a visually interesting rocket.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:03:32 2020 No.11864381

>>11864327
All politicians are like this, but the fact you're pretending it's weird for trump to be this way says quite a bit about yourself.
Kennedy didn't give a fuck about space.
Nixon didn't.
Ford didn't.
Carter didn't.
Reagan didn't
Bush didn't.
Obama didn't.
The only one who gave a shit was Johnson.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:07:53 2020 No.11864390 File: 180 KB, 730x430, zpinchfusionrocket-3-730x430.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have any cool papers on human exploration of the outer solar system?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:08:01 2020 No.11864391 >>11864358 I work with NASA as a contractor. You don't have to read minds if you're sitting in the planning meetings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:09:04 2020 No.11864394 >>11864360 Who says I'm white?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:10:47 2020 No.11864398 >>11864391 Can you give us any quotes directly from the President himself from said meetings?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:11:39 2020 No.11864399

>>11864381
Eh. The norm is for politicians to care mostly about themselves, but Trump takes it to the extreme of caring ONLY about himself. And while most politicians are at least somewhat held to the cause of helping people and the nation, Trump hasn't been.

Hell, he'd sell us all to Putin if he could just rename the country Trumpland.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:13:26 2020 No.11864406 >>11864398 Never said I was in any meetings with Trump. I was speaking to NASA expectations of Biden vs Trump. But no, no quotes, I'm not responsible for taking minutes and my primary role is technical.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:14:56 2020 No.11864413 >>11864398 My bad, I got replies mixed up.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:15:10 2020 No.11864415
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>trying to make it past low orbit to the nearest moon
>end up having to completely tear apart and reenginer my rocket family and combine them all into this abomination trying to get enough dv to insert a probe into orbit
>1+4 RD211s on first stage, RD-0110 second stage, RD-58 upper stage to yeet the probe into an intercept with the moon
fucking christ I need bigger engines bros, where's my RD-170s already

>>11864362
there's no penalty if you just ignore them until they go away, if you want to cancel them to get new ones immediately I think it costs -1 rep by default, but you dont get the full penalty unless you accept them and then fail

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:17:26 2020 No.11864422 How fast can you go while aerobraking without annihilating your rocket? Thinking about aerobraking after an interplanetary burn at Titan,since i guess Mars's atmosphere is too thin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:18:59 2020 No.11864423 File: 42 KB, 575x431, heat-shield.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864422 depends what sort of heat shield you have

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:19:23 2020 No.11864424 >>11864422 expendable heat shields

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:20:28 2020 No.11864426 File: 2.95 MB, 1920x1080, KSP_x64 2020-07-03 15-19-34.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] mmmm kerosene and AK27 smells so good bros

void Fri Jul 3 18:23:30 2020 No.11864429

>>11864423
I mean don't get me wrong; indistinguishable from nature is a great trope and all, but how about a species that wants to conquer the stars through *communing with nature*? Has it really not occurred to you guys that I might want to just teleport things into space and help you explore me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:23:59 2020 No.11864431 >>11864422 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20170006876.pdf tl;dr Titan has an atmosphere that is very good for aerobraking because it is extended and intert.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:28:36 2020 No.11864439

>>11864415
>there's no penalty if you just ignore them until they go away, if you want to cancel them to get new ones immediately I think it costs -1 rep by default, but you dont get the full penalty unless you accept them and then fail
Thanks. Just started this new save and was quickly given tourist and escape velocity contracts with mere hours to accept them despite not making it into orbit yet. Hopefully I don't get bored and restart like last time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:28:54 2020 No.11864440 File: 32 KB, 480x360, whitey on the moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864182 That's because whitey is on the moon.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:47:33 2020 No.11864481 >>11864440 bros how do we get whitey off the moon??

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:52:47 2020 No.11864495 >>11864481 Get him on Mars

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:53:34 2020 No.11864498 File: 3.94 MB, 5700x5194, AS17-145-22261.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864481 defund him

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:57:41 2020 No.11864512 File: 3.84 MB, 4400x4363, AS17-145-22257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:07:14 2020 No.11864540 Why's it called Starship when it has no intention of traveling to any stars?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:08:13 2020 No.11864544 File: 3.79 MB, 4285x4500, AS11-40-5927.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862584 here's a bigger one

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:09:05 2020 No.11864548 >>11864540 Because it's more marketable than Big Fucking Rocket.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:11:02 2020 No.11864556 >>11864548 Mars Colonial Transporter is still the most kino naming scheme.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:11:38 2020 No.11864561 >>11864556 >colonial That’s problematic

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:17:45 2020 No.11864577 >>11864481 >how do we get whitey off the moon?? Keep doing what we've been doing; dumping money on welfare that creates more welfare recipients that still have a right to vote.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:18:18 2020 No.11864578 File: 3.88 MB, 3840x3826, AS17-145-22157.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:19:44 2020 No.11864585 >>11864561 And that's a good thing!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:20:59 2020 No.11864589 >>11864578 what does moon dust taste like

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:21:11 2020 No.11864591 File: 304 KB, 1250x701, 1590868986914.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11863850

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:23:58 2020 No.11864598 >>11864589 bags of sand

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:25:31 2020 No.11864608 >>11864360 >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:26:33 2020 No.11864612 >>11864350 I hope they defund SLS and give more money for science missions and research. That's where NASA excels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:33:09 2020 No.11864640 >>11864612 Whaat? I can't hear you. You want SLS launched climate missions?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:33:15 2020 No.11864641 File: 3.74 MB, 4200x3561, AS17-143-21941.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864589 like ground up glass mixed with fireplace ashes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:35:15 2020 No.11864649 >>11864641 >fireplace ashes If you have one of those "pure ox at standard pressure" aluminum-fed fireplaces

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:37:00 2020 No.11864653

>>11864640
Planetary science in general and yes more climate science in there as well. Let SpaceX, ULA and BO handle launch vehicles. There would be more than enough budget for space exploration too with all the budget freed from the SLS trashfire. Fuck congress for mandating Europa Clipper must launch on SLS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:43:16 2020 No.11864664 >>11864561 >Nooo don’t leave a dying dystopian nightmare society

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:01:04 2020 No.11864707 >>11864589 Gunpowder, ironically

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:17:58 2020 No.11864741 File: 73 KB, 800x956, _20200704_071608.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864540 Mars is a star too.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:20:32 2020 No.11864748

>>11864641

Jack Schmitt, immediately after throwing the one and only hammer that they had available to perform geological (selenological) work, at the end of EVA-3. One of the last things that humans did while walking on the Moon. Geno had been about to do it, but Jack pleaded with him rather humorously "aw, c'mon, lemme throw the hammer! Lemme throw it! Please?" Geno relented, sternly warning Jack: "Don't hit the LM. Or the ALSEP."

At present, Schmitt remains one of only four surviving moonwalkers, the others being Buzz, David Scott, and Charlie Duke.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:20:40 2020 No.11864749

>>11863292
No but it's probably gonna get banned in India or crippled by draconian regulations.

See what happened to Amazon there
https://www.magzter.com/article/Business/Bloomberg-Businessweek/Indias-E-commerce-Crackdown

I think the biggest hurdles to Starlink's success will be political and regulatory, not technological. Ironically the countries which would benefit from the network the most are the ones which are more likely to ban it. Russia, China, India, a bunch of smaller authoritarian third world countries... It's sad but Starlink is probably not gonna be able to serve most of the globe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:22:24 2020 No.11864755 File: 3.61 MB, 4500x4065, AS17-140-21391.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864649 >If you have one of those "pure ox at standard pressure" aluminum-fed fireplaces don't we all?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:24:29 2020 No.11864759 File: 210 KB, 388x416, Lem2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864544 That reminds me. I stitched together a couple pics to a gif

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:34:39 2020 No.11864780 File: 29 KB, 280x421, rd119.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Redpill me on UDMH+LOx. Is it hypergolic? Was it a viable improvement over kerolox? http://www.astronautix.com/r/rd-119.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:34:47 2020 No.11864783 >>11864748 Yeah but Cernan one-upped him by throwing the entire gravimeter

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:40:20 2020 No.11864790 >>11864759 very nice it's so sad we didn't get any hi res video from the moon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:41:35 2020 No.11864792 >>11864749 There is a constant stream of "concern" about Starlink being banned in X, Y, Z. The reality is Starlink will be supply limited even if all of those bans come to fruition. It's a big world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:44:26 2020 No.11864795 >>11864749 >country being protective of its industry bad!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:45:39 2020 No.11864796 >>11864795 Remember, it's only bad when America does it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:49:31 2020 No.11864801 >>11864790 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTQ-SmeLTl8

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:49:50 2020 No.11864802

>>11864749
>It's sad but Starlink is probably not gonna be able to serve most of the globe
When they have the laser interlink system in place, Starlink can serve anywhere you can smuggle in a receiver and provide power to it. I look forward to some regime getting salty because somebody snuck in a shipping container of antennae and their citizens are plotting revolution with unfiltered internet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:55:37 2020 No.11864813 >>11864790 I have a few more projects I did ages ago. I'll post it in the new thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:58:04 2020 No.11864822 >>11864801 incredible

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:02:04 2020 No.11864837 >>11864795 When your local industry is semi monopolised by huge ripoff gigakike telcos they can get fucked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:04:00 2020 No.11864842 >>11864837 same in sane people speak please.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:06:43 2020 No.11864847 >>11864801 holy shit how hard would it be for SpaceX to drop a small rover to livestream the surface of the moon 24/7? That would be incredible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:08:38 2020 No.11864854 >>11864842 Pick up a dictionary.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:30:59 2020 No.11864894

>>11864608
He isn't wrong you know. But I agree, we should keep all non-space related discussion off this thread.
>>11864612
I wanna see multiple active probes in the outer solar system, specifically a rover/hopper on each of the large moons of the outer solar system, plus a ceres lander, but I know that'll never happen with NASA.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:34:51 2020 No.11864898 >>11864847 It'd be harder then you think, simply because they'd have to master the landing. Also they don't wanna spend resources on much right now aside from starship, starlink, and making sure bob and doug are safe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:37:17 2020 No.11864901 >>11864898 sure, but it's nothing they wouldn't have to do eventually

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:38:13 2020 No.11864903 >>11864898 the safety of bob and doug is the most important thing the death of two astronauts would all but kill privatized manned spaceflight

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:39:18 2020 No.11864904 >>11864901 True, but again I doubt they'll divert funding or manpower from anything related to the three things I mentioned for a long time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:41:03 2020 No.11864908 >>11864904 aren't they planning to demo landing a starship on the moon?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:43:44 2020 No.11864912

>>11864901
Maybe maybe not. The landing would be largely non-transferrable because it would have to be some unique lander while SS/LunarSS will be the basis of future landings, and everything dedicated to controlling a rover from the Earth is pointless as future missions will have a control station right there on site.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:44:10 2020 No.11864913 File: 1.58 MB, 1680x1050, screenshot630.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gotta admit it's grown on me.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:45:45 2020 No.11864918
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>>11864783

Due to a platform alignment issue, Apollo 16 "enjoyed" the most LM flight time. But since Cernan was the only person to fly the LM twice, he enjoys the individual record.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:47:37 2020 No.11864922 >>11864792 Right, but I think we're talking past that supply limits. Suppose Starlink maxes out all its capability in the US/Europe/Canada/etc. Then to get to new market like India, they'd need to deal with local politics.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:48:20 2020 No.11864923
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>>11864913
Another damn ugly spaceplane.
Anyone else getting severe lag below 30 km on every body except Kerbin?
Using the new Kopernicus recompile(happens with the old too),no planet packs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:48:53 2020 No.11864926 File: 273 KB, 1904x1346, who owns the media asks elon musk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >((())) Naming 2.0 happening https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1279144671286038528

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:58:35 2020 No.11864938

>>11864922
If India doesn't want to play ball, there's a good billion worth of pop in neighboring countries who aren't India and don't have any delusions of rivalry with SpaceX who would be glad to buy up relays, especially for their India-facing borders. World big.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:59:02 2020 No.11864939

>>11864780
>Is it hypergolic?
No.
>Was it a viable improvement over kerolox?
No, if anything the opposite combination (kerosene and dinitrogen tetroxide) would be better, because for a relatively small decrease in Isp you dispense with all cryogenic propellants and increase your bulk density beyond kerolox.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:12:41 2020 No.11864958 >>11864926 so are people freaking out because he isn't a fan of a shithead reporter with a jew name? is disproval of individual jews now grounds for cancellation?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:14:29 2020 No.11864961

>>11864938
It don't matter if there are neighbors to India. The point is Starlink not being utilized in India = loss of free revenue. Bandwidth isn't being utilized in India so its just wasted. And the problem isn't India not playing ball, but an example of countries being stuck in politics. India here is just an example. You can use Australia, Canada, Mexico, Europe, etc. Basically anything not America.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:17:14 2020 No.11864966 >>11864958 That sounds like something a nazi would say. You're not a nazi are you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:18:32 2020 No.11864969 >>11864958 Nazi

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:21:51 2020 No.11864979

>>11864961
No, you're just not getting the point. Starlink will be saturated with its available customers. Yes, typical examples like Russia, China, NK and other smaller scale authoritarians will be out of the deal, but it literally doesn't matter: the market is the world and the world minus ~3 billion people is still more demand than Starlink can keep up with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:21:55 2020 No.11864980 >ywn troll mission control by blasting marching band music through the comm-link during mission critical phases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiX-cJaqYkY

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:21:58 2020 No.11864981 >>11863868 as much as trump being a jewish cocksucker, he's the one who made the space force

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:24:15 2020 No.11864987 >>11864058 >>11864079 tihs thing is still on the moon right?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:26:23 2020 No.11864990

>>11864979
Starlink bandwidth will be saturated only in regional borders. Again, this isn't a demand or supply issue. Its a free bandwidth not being utilized. Less than 0.000001% of Americans want to access Indian servers. Even if Starlink captures every single American customers, lets say a billion people lives in America, for sake of argument and billion people are subscribed to Starlink in America, it won't matter to Starlink access in India because they're not using the same satellites.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:27:59 2020 No.11864993 >>11864990 Let me rephrase that. Even if all the bandwidth is saturated for US customers Starlink, there is 0 effect for Starlink customers elsewhere in the world. Starlink can support 100% saturation in every single country and not be affected.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:29:08 2020 No.11864999 >>11864990 India is in the most densely populated region in the world, retard. Even cutting it out I assure you there is more than enough left to supply Starlink well beyond its currently imagined scope.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:33:04 2020 No.11865013

>>11864999
You're going off tangent. It doesn't matter if India has billion or trillion or quadtrillion people accessing Starlink. Regional access to satellites will make sure whatever happens on one region wont affect other side of the world. AND as such, if the other side is fully utilized, and this side isn't utilized, its missed opportunity for Starlink to make some extra money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:37:53 2020 No.11865021 File: 63 KB, 1024x673, 1590944882153.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864179 >nasa was founded by the nazis fuckign based

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:41:05 2020 No.11865031

>>11865013
I don't know if you're illiterate or if you just like hearing yourself talk, if you misinterpret me again I won't bother replying. India is IN the most populous region in the world means there is more to it than just India. In just direct Indian border states you have over 500m people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:42:56 2020 No.11865035 File: 7 KB, 296x107, musk buff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862677

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:44:53 2020 No.11865039 File: 270 KB, 1920x1080, 73445848.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864561 that's where you're wrong, kiddo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:47:23 2020 No.11865043 File: 930 KB, 1366x768, 1579277484168.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864179 Nah, the Martian Congressional Republic won't be dealing with these issues.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:47:25 2020 No.11865044

>>11865031
Again, you're going off tangent. It does not matter if India/Pakistan/Myanmar/China/SriLanka/Tibet has infinite people each. Those are not relevant. What's relevant is whether Starlink can be utilized by countries outside the US and deal with local politics to get some extra market. That's all this is. This isn't about India vs Pakistan or India vs China or India vs Tibet or whatever the fuck you want to make out of. Again, this isn't even about India strictly its just a fucking example. Why is this so hard to get? We're not talking about India. We're talking about US + other countries. Not other countries vs other countries. Not US vs other countries. Not other countries + other countries etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:58:38 2020 No.11865064 >>11863783 >>11863810 Admiral Pence will lead us to the stars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJEBgjQIekE

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:59:42 2020 No.11865065 File: 281 KB, 630x335, Screen-Shot-2018-08-10-at-9.33.36-AM-630x335.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865064 forgot pic related

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:59:44 2020 No.11865067 >>11865064 No, the red dragon will. This is the chinese millenium. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB4syeafOsQ

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:02:00 2020 No.11865071 File: 158 KB, 1200x895, 1587420552547.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865064

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:03:48 2020 No.11865076

>>11865044
>hurr Starlink is dead because muh India!
>Actually, Starlink has plenty of potential demand in the region without India
>hurr, Starlink is dead because... of something I'm not sure of yet!
It's okay to not have an argument, you don't have to play pretend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:06:20 2020 No.11865084 >>11865067 modern day chinks are a tasteless B-tier imitation of Soviet kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIBmrDUK_RU

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:07:40 2020 No.11865088 >>11865064 >>11865067 Your governments will lap at the trail commercial space leaves in its wake

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:09:50 2020 No.11865093 >>11865088 lmao literally everything SpaceX does belongs to the United States. There are a myriad of laws ensuring everything stays here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:10:50 2020 No.11865096 >>11865076 You're chasing some phantom arguments there. Are you ESL or something? Do you not know how to derive coherent meaning from reading?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:12:25 2020 No.11865103 >>11865067 Red Dragon got cancelled years ago, sorry anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:13:17 2020 No.11865104 >>11865093 I mean, you're right. Collecting the taxes and regulating the launches is not what I would consider leading us into space, though

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:14:48 2020 No.11865106 >>11865096 >wahh Convincing.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:22:31 2020 No.11865120
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>>11865104
I mean SpaceX wouldn't even exist without COTS. Pence is spearheading the creation of Space Force, and he obviously intends for it to be something more than the AF Space Command was. SpaceX is extremely intimate with the US Government and basically too big to fail at this point, they will always get contracts to do something, like GLS or NRO stuff. Space Force will ensure every worthwhile nuspace company gets the fat federal contracts they need to survive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:25:54 2020 No.11865124 >>11865084 >>11865088 capitalism will fail

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:33:42 2020 No.11865137

>>11865124
t. state capitalist
>>11865120
None of that is really leadership either. If you're not actively pushing to get the thing done, you're not leading it. Also, it's not necessarily going to be Space Force's role. These guys are just a fresh coat of paint on what has historically been a conservative group - SpaceX initially had to go to court to even get consideration for military launches.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:34:21 2020 No.11865138 >>11865120 >be on the ISS twitter >hear one of the astronauts unironically say "boots on the moon" just like in Space Force don't let your dreams be dreams

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:35:56 2020 No.11865142 >>11865137 fascist

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:58:48 2020 No.11865179 File: 20 KB, 739x415, images (5).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865142

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:06:21 2020 No.11865188 File: 425 KB, 720x1520, Screenshot_20200704-160533.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] UH HELLO BASED DEPARTMENT ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:11:16 2020 No.11865195 >>11865188 >elon was in tulsa I genuinely hope they end up getting the cybertruck factory though I wouldn't be surprised if some oil money paid off some politicians and they told him to fuck off to Austin

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:36:18 2020 No.11865231 File: 812 KB, 624x1057, r27.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Static fires soon™

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:41:52 2020 No.11865240 are russians developing any new engines these days

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:42:02 2020 No.11865241 didn't think I'd see elon posting Shrek snap memes today

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:51:39 2020 No.11865253 >>11865241 he's not like the other girls

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:58:40 2020 No.11865260 File: 1.78 MB, 1190x1062, elon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865241

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:52:10 2020 No.11865335 File: 212 KB, 603x357, WTF IS HAPPENING.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865231 I cannot wait to see the raptor start lifting that steel can into the sky >>11865241 elon's finally unleashing his fucking power level holy shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:46:44 2020 No.11865406 https://hopsblog-hop.blogspot.com/2019/04/bridenstines-why-moon-matters.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:52:03 2020 No.11865418 File: 3.79 MB, 3900x3506, AS15-88-11866.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865406 >As Ronald Reagan predicted, “We win. They lose.”

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:12:34 2020 No.11865461 >>11864780 I believe hydrazine of any format needs a bit more than just regular oxygen to get to shine. The chemical properties of it is that it rapes oxygen molecules after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:19:54 2020 No.11865475 >>11864795 Being opposed to the free market is bad, yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:23:56 2020 No.11865482 >>11865124 Good luck with that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:25:28 2020 No.11865486 >>11865475 no it isn't

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:26:59 2020 No.11865491 >>11865486 “I detect a little communism.”

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:28:30 2020 No.11865495 >>11865491 >the only economic system other then global free market capitalism is communism you don't know much about economics do you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:31:22 2020 No.11865500 >>11865495 I know that economic freedom is good and that you’re most likely a nationalist who opposes economic freedom. Communism, fascist, reactionary, don’t care. All bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:34:20 2020 No.11865507 >>11865500 ok neoliberal

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:47:52 2020 No.11865528 >>11865507 shoot all commies and fascists

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:48:37 2020 No.11865530 >>11865528 shoot all liberals

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:49:25 2020 No.11865531 >>11865530 yes that's what I said

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:50:08 2020 No.11865534 >>11865500 Hi anon, sorry to say we have just outsourced your position to Pajeet in india who will work for a quarter of your wage, good luck in your future endeavours!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:54:51 2020 No.11865538 >>11865534 K. I have a job that can’t be outsourced in practice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:58:00 2020 No.11865546 >>11865538 Hi anon, we are pleased to introduce you to Rajesh from Pakistan, he is here on an h1b visa and you will be training him for him to take your position in the event of you being made redundant, say hi and become good friends please :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:00:50 2020 No.11865552 >>11865538 >w-well MY job can't be outsourced or replaced by a low wage immigrant >t. everyone who has been outsourced or replaced ever

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:05:29 2020 No.11865555 >>11865546 poo in loo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:08:53 2020 No.11865559 >>11865546 >H1B nice try pajeet the issuance of those has ended

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:10:37 2020 No.11865563 >>11865559 Spunds like protectionism to me you fucking fascist, why won't you let the free market decide huh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:12:13 2020 No.11865565 >>11865563 Wasn't my decision commie fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:13:20 2020 No.11865568 >>11865565 >defending fascism Nazi detected

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:25:28 2020 No.11865589 >>11865565 >haha h1b cancelled poos btfo >b-but it wasn't my decision, me love free market, protectionism bad Nice idealogical consistency fucking cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:38:38 2020 No.11865613 File: 3.83 MB, 3840x3900, AS15-88-11892.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stop being cringe pls you're cramping my style

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:52:15 2020 No.11865646 >>11864179 >Half the country thinks nasa was founded by the nazis don't forget the flat earthers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:54:18 2020 No.11865650 File: 3.91 MB, 4200x3828, AS15-88-11901.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:54:26 2020 No.11865651 >>11865613 >I SHOWED YOU MY MOUNT POINT NOW ANSWER ME

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:56:05 2020 No.11865653 >>11865650 Does that antenna thingy communicate with the orbiting module or can it reach earth?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:00:30 2020 No.11865663 File: 3.83 MB, 3938x4000, AS15-88-11862.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11864190 >pic hi res version

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:12:01 2020 No.11865683 >>11865650 >those tires wait a minute...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:16:32 2020 No.11865689 >>11865651 (explanation: it's 4AM and that looked like a Pathetic meme of a satellite)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:19:23 2020 No.11865693 What are some cool little facts about Apollo 17? The more I read about it the cooler it seems

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:38:13 2020 No.11865725
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>>11865653
more than likely only the command module

>>11865683
>The wheels consisted of a spun aluminum hub and an 81.8 cm diameter, 23 cm wide tire made of zinc coated woven 0.083 cm diameter steel strands attached to the rim and discs of formed aluminum. Titanium chevrons covered 50% of the contact area to provide traction. Inside the tire was a 64.8 cm diameter bump stop frame to protect the hub. Dust guards were mounted above the wheels. Each wheel had its own electric drive, a DC series wound 0.25 hp motor capable of 10,000 rpm, attached to the wheel via an 80:1 harmonic drive, and a mechanical brake unit. Manuevering capability was provided through the use of front and rear steering motors. Each series wound DC steering motor was capable of 0.1 hp. Both sets of wheels would turn in opposite directions, giving a steering radius of 3.1 meters, or could be decoupled so only one set would be used for steering.
https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo_lrv.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:44:14 2020 No.11865737 new >>11865734 >>11865734 >>11865734

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:17:22 2020 No.11865925 >>11863731 probably not, but you can make it yourself from water and space coal(carbonaceous asteroids).

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 08:39:11 2020 No.11866094

>>11863547
>EU doesn't want to give UK access to their GPS
There are manor unanswered issues relating to Galileo that make sit unattractive in any case. For instance, exactly WHO controls the precision signal switch? Also what happened during the last Galileo failure? We have zero transparency.

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