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What is energy?

>> No.11858939

>>11858915
A social construct

>> No.11858949

>>11858939
this,

>> No.11858969

>>11858915
a conserved quantity resulting from time translation symmetry

>> No.11858971

>>11858969
What?

>> No.11858973

>>11858915
didnt Wolfram figure this out

>> No.11858974

>>11858915
heat or the ability to do work

>> No.11859000

>>11858971
if physics now = physics at another time, then there exists a quantity which we call energy that remains constant during any process
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem

>> No.11859054

F=ma
F’=mc^2
E=mc^2
Energy is the force of mass when it is moving at the speed of light across a two dimensional surface.
Energy is potential. The sum total of all possibilities of futures a thing has is equal to its level of energy. If it has no future other than its present, it has 0 energy.

what is energy?
Inertial movement imparted from the "beginning" of the Universe.
what is universe?
Everything that IS

>> No.11859912

>>11859054
>what is universe?
>Everything that IS
Exactly; there can't be anything outside the universe. The universe is everything; it's infinite and has always existed.

>> No.11860087

>>11858915

Energy isn't a thing. Its a consequence of the fact that we live on an otherwise flat 3D manifold. Sources can deform the manifold.

>> No.11860147

>>11858915
One component of the energy-momentum tensor that IS NOT conserved unless you're living in a linearized world.

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>>11858915
hard to define since it is not even from this dimension. Aether is conscious light made from the friction of spinning magnetism but what is the magnetism? Undefinable (from our position anyhow), you can only call it God

>> No.11860256

>>11860239
forgot to post link, this dude does a great job explaining it

http://esotericawakening.com/crystal-science

>> No.11860768

>>11860147
is there a similar conservation quantity for arbitrary manifolds?

>> No.11860879

>>11860256
>crystal science
yeah I'm not clicking on that schizo garbage

>> No.11860891

>>11860879
Why would you think I give a fuck what a stupid, narcissistic dip shit like you does? Literally no one here gives a single fuck what you do you don't have to announce it to appease your narcissism, just take your meds and stfu

>> No.11860893

>>11860891
cringe retard, shove your crystals up your ass

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11860899

>>11860893
>t.

>> No.11860903

>>11860899
ok dude everyone thinks you're crazy. you're never gonna make it in life.

>> No.11860913

>>11860239
>>11860256
>>>/x/ schizo retard

>> No.11860919

It's just a theory

>> No.11860938

>>1186090
>thinks he can read minds and speak for strangers on an anime forum
> Calls other people crazy
>Makes multiple posts saying the same thing because he thinks his chdish opinions mad words hold some important significance when I'm reality it just moronic gibberish to people who arent imbeciles and narcissits like he is
This is called projection anon it is a common symptom that accompamies your narcisstic personality disorder. I suggest you seek some help from a trained professional but being a cluster b you won't so I won't waste my time anymore other than to say get filthy psycho takes your meds and stfu

>> No.11860946

>>11860938
dude you literally linked to a website about crystal science you're a fucking schizo lmao take your meds

>> No.11860964

>>11860946
Wtf do you know about crystals you fucking moron? Jesus Christmas at you are so fucking stupid it is painful to witness. Who the fuck do you think a tally believes that you know the first thing about crystals or energy? I will give you a hint. Nobody you stupid fuck. Also you need to be 18 to post here you stupid little shit so fuck off and go play outside while on your summer break you ripe cunt

>> No.11861041

Energy as you may know it and use as the Joule, which is Q the total electrification of an area that varies with respect time. Q being the combination of the two fields, magnetic and dielectric.

>> No.11861083

>>11860964
Who do you think believes you that crystals have some crazy powers? You're literally retarded lol.

>> No.11861192

>>11861083
Who said anything about "crazy powers" nice straw man you drooling ape. You do know crystals are used as batteries and store energy and can be used a hard drives to store massive amounts of information exponentially more efficient than the current drives used in computers today? Of course you don't because you are a stone cold moron. stfu and stop shitting up this thread with your idiocy you massively retarded cunt kys

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11861224

>>11858915
[math] U = \frac{E}{S} \rightarrow E = U \times S [/math]

>> No.11861225

>>11861083
Anon is right you are stupid af. Your stupidity is very annoying stfu and fuck off already you idiot

>> No.11861274

>>11861083
Judging by the fact that all you can do is keep repeating the words schizo and retard and the fact that you don't understand that crystals are applicable in many fields of research on the properties energy from lasers, optics, data storage to energy storage I will have to agree with anon, you sound like you are 16 and a real buffoon. I get visions of beavis and butthead kackling like medicated psych ward patients when I read your vapid posts. I do also sincerely hope you kus

>> No.11861295

>>11860239
fascinating how hard you've tried to convince yourself that you're not a brainlet

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>>11861274
>crystals are applicable in many fields of research
>therefore anything I say crystals can do is valid
>no I won't source my claims with actual scientific studies. Do your own research.
>I'm smarter than you.

>> No.11861409

>>11861192
>>11861225
>>11861274
>samefagging this hard
embarrassing. kys schizo, crystals are just rocks.

>> No.11861419

>>11861192
>>11861225
>>11861274
holy schizophrenia you need to go back to /x/

>> No.11861432

>>11861274
schizo retard

>> No.11861516

>>11861295
>>11861409
The irony here is quite delicious fucking simians

>> No.11861526

>>11861516
Have you shoved the crystals up your ass yet schizo? I already BTFO you earlier. Go cry to mommy.

>> No.11861553

>>11860893
He's out buying Dr. Disrespect's Shungite Rocks

>> No.11861574

>>11858971

Time translation symmetry:

Energy does not exist without our ability to measure between two points in time, and this effect is symmetrical, as in any energy amount will symmetrically disperse in all directions.

Energy is essentially just a magnitude riding an infinite space-time field.

>> No.11861581

>>11859054
>F=ma
>F’=mc^2
>E=mc^2
>Energy is the force of mass when it is moving at the speed of light across a two dimensional surface.
>Energy is potential. The sum total of all possibilities of futures a thing has is equal to its level of energy. If it has no future other than its present, it has 0 energy.
>what is energy?
>Inertial movement imparted from the "beginning" of the Universe.
>what is universe?
>Everything that IS

Yep, and you can even simplify it further, down to the most base: energy, e, is just symmetrically dispersing across space, s. Therefore, any local or infinite Universe, u = e / s.

>> No.11862463

>>11861224

Fuck that's badass

>> No.11862485

>>11861224
>e, is just symmetrically dispersing across space, s. Therefore, any local or infinite Universe, u = e / s.

You didn't simplify fully. See above U = E / S -> E = U x S

So, simply, energy is U (everything, aka infinity) multiplied in a grid (S). This sounds illogical, but think it through. The universe is infinite at all points. Line those points up, and the difference between each point (the comparative magnitudes) are what we detect as energy.

This is why the only remaining question is, what equation dictates the comparative magnitudes? i.e., why is space "lumpy"...

... But if anyone wants to go on another wild ride, at least one optimist thinks he has figured that out and its a doozy.

>> No.11862502

>>11859000
it doesn't though

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11862518

>>11862485
>ride, at least one optimist thinks he has figured that out and its a doozy.

Share pleez

>> No.11862546

>>11862518
>So, simply, energy is U (everything, aka infinity) multiplied in a grid (S). This sounds illogical, but think it through. The universe is infinite at all points. Line those points up, and the difference between each point (the comparative magnitudes) are what we detect as energy.
>This is why the only remaining question is, what equation dictates the comparative magnitudes? i.e., why is space "lumpy"...

Why is space "lumpy". why isn't energy completely consistent across all space? So, this is according to the latest rantings coming out of optimum theory so take with a grain of salt (as you should all theories desu), but it goes like this:

The universe has a total energy value of zero. We suspect that for a number of reasons, but the easiest to understand is that the only way infinity can exist is if it "costs" nothing. So the universe must have an equal measure of positive and negative energy. But the Universe can only sense locally, so how does it know that it is only producing positives and negatives equally? Because it always produces positives and negatives in pairs. In a grid this looks like +1 -1 +1 -1 infinitely. These +1 and -1 pairs are the true U. Each is a Universe in the multiverse. These are just words, universe, multiverse, and there is nothing preventing you from traveling into another "universe" other than the truly insane distance. Because of symmetry principle, these Universes expand outward and inward as spheres. The +1 and -1 universes would annihilate if they ever met. +1 is simply an abstraction, as is -1 and these are infinitely fractionable and infinitely deep. You can zoom in and out essentially forever, but it is particle like at all scales, i.e. self similar. The Universe is approaching a limit of a perfect grid of -1 +1 at all scales, perhaps there is even some moment where that occures before everything starts mixing again, idk. Or maybe that grid ripples in / out of scale, a wave echoing through scale...

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>>11862502

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>>11862546

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>>11862546
>The universe has a total energy value of zero.

>> No.11862565

>>11862559
>>11862546

Oh, and this is another reason why I think u = e / s -> e = u * s... Because U = (+1 -1) x in a grid (s) and yeah I know that doesn't make sense in traditional math but it's not really supposed to the theory has always been best understood through automaton.

>> No.11862569

>>11862562

That's the most standard theory at the moment. It's actually mainstream. NDT and all the rest will tell you the same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GrKC7Tey8E

>> No.11862616

>>11860768
Yes, as long as there is a continuous symmetry.

>> No.11862680

>>11862558
ironic

>> No.11862684

It's an accounting tool that is useful, but not an actual thing

>> No.11862685

>>11862502
>>11862680
You're showing your naivete dude. Noether's theorem has been proven for a century

>> No.11862688

>>11862685
energy is not conserved on cosmic scales

>> No.11862690

>>11862688
In the specific case of energy it functions as an excellent approximation, splitting hairs is not the same as intelligence

>> No.11862696

>>11862688
>energy is not conserved on cosmic scales

what makes you think that?

>> No.11863316

>>11862696
two reasons: because empty space is expanding while keeping a constant energy density, and also because as things go beyond the cosmic event horizon they are literally lost

>>11862690
it's not splitting hairs just because you're wrong, you were trying to make an absolute statement out of something that's false

>> No.11864412

>>11863316
>two reasons: because empty space is expanding while keeping a constant energy density, and also because as things go beyond the cosmic event horizon they are literally lost

What makes you think that space does not have infinite depth and that new energy-matter is not pulled up into the void from lower scales as space expands? Also, what makes you think that things are lost outside the cosmic event horizon? You think that just because we cannot see past the CMB that nothing is out there? What makes you think the Universe is not infinite in depth and scope?

>> No.11864420

>>11858915
More like what ISN'T energy, haha. Am I right, folks? Folks?

Guys?


...Guys?


>hello?

>> No.11864433

What if matter is actually a different state of energy?

Oh wait

>> No.11864444

Energy is just another form of mass

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>>11860893
>>11860903
stfu you stupid motherfucker you are the schizo. Anon is talking about simple mainstream science anyone who isn't a moron would know about. You are one retarded motherfucker, get the fuck off this board and don't come back

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11864975

>>11864444
checked and based

>>11864963
>crystal schizo is STILL rambling

>> No.11864986

>>11864975
Fuck off mossad kike

>> No.11864989

>>11864963
LMAO you are pure cringe. Were you dropped on your head?

>> No.11864996

>>11858915
Better question: what isn't energy?

>> No.11865409

>>11864412
>What makes you think that space does not have infinite depth and that new energy-matter is not pulled up into the void from lower scales as space expands?
the lack of a reason to think that

>Also, what makes you think that things are lost outside the cosmic event horizon? You think that just because we cannot see past the CMB that nothing is out there?
it's a meaningless question

>> No.11865420

Vibration

>> No.11865421

>>11864996
distance and time

>> No.11865628

>>11865409
>the lack of a reason to think that

You have not studied enough.

>> No.11865716

>>11858915
Is it some kind of an array?

>> No.11866088

>>11864996
jeb's rallies
extremely low energy there, sad!

>> No.11866395

>>11864975
>>11864989
That isn't me you schizophrenic wet brained donkey

>> No.11866425

>>11858915
Matter

>> No.11867087

>>11858915
Difference between two orders of set.