Second Wave

[Anonymous No.11852010]

Hey im wondering when you think the second wave of corona will hit and how severe it will be (im in Canada if that helps). I have a job offer that im skeptical of taking since it will require making myself vulnerable to the public and i have high risk individuals at home. Im gunna reject it if there is a strong case for a second wave happening soon.

[Anonymous No.11852014]

>>11852010
In America the first wave never ended

[Anonymous No.11852015]

>>11852010
Right Now
Stay Safe

[Anonymous No.11852022]

This isn't going away anytime soon, and when you consider it mutated in Europe to a higher lethality than the strains going through Korea and Japan it could very well do it again. Not to mention the regular flu also hitting in a few months it's going to be chaotic with flu people thinking they have covid19 and people with covid19 assuming it's a regular flu.

[Anonymous No.11852031]

Also viral load seems to have a huge impact on young and old.
Could very well be 1000+ doctors dead worldwide
80 bus drivers dead in New York from constant exposure
So much death from exposure to household members constantly breathing this stuff around family
Nursing homes being wiped out.
The saving grace is that is doesn't seem to transmit easily outdoors, but again, theres no guarantee it will stay that way down the year.

[Anonymous No.11852070]

old meme, but it feels appropriate

[Anonymous No.11852109]

>>11852014
>>11852015
>>11852022
>>11852031
>>11852070
are you guys legitmately analyzing this with a sober objective perspective, becuase this is enployment on the line, if you are truly confident im going to reject the job

[Anonymous No.11852119]

>>11852109
Are you the kind of person that's at risk from the disease? If not, it's probably not worth giving up work over.

[Anonymous No.11852126]

as long as you practice distancing in your household you won't be giving someone a fatal viral load if you are shedding it.

[Anonymous No.11852148]

>>11852119
>>11852126
but the two high risk people in my home are going to be in the same space using the same stuff that i do, its not sustainable in my house to routinely sanitize things after every use

[Anonymous No.11852167]

>>11852010
The start of cold and flu season is when it has the potential to turn really bad.

[Anonymous No.11852238]

>>11852167
whens that?

[Anonymous No.11852258]

>>11852238
In October, but January-March are generally the worst months.

[Anonymous No.11852282]

>>11852258
fuck

[Anonymous No.11852380]

Don’t let fear stop you from moving on in your life op.

If the second wave happens you can quit your job then, you’ll have made some money and got some valuable experience in the meantime and if you’re protecting your family members it’s a valid reason.

The virus doesn’t spread as well in hot weather so it’ll probably remain relatively suppressed until October or November, in the places that are adequately managing it that is not the US

[Anonymous No.11852387]

>>11852148
>>11852148
I am avoiding working for the time being for the same reason. I am also an at risk person with a minor heart defect and don't want to risk it. This shit is going to get worse and isn't going away anytime soon. Beyond that, nobody knows just HOW bad it might get. Doomers are predicting apocalypse while morons are denying it even exists

Here's what we do know:
>USA cases are going up exponentially, the virus is now endemic in the population and likely can't be rooted out except with vaccines/ herd immunity
>Vaccines take many years to develop, but they keep saying it'll come in a few months
>This would be the fastest vaccine ever developed in history and is very unlikely to come sooner than a year or two from now despite the constant good news articles
>Flu season is coming and it won't be pretty with overlapping symptoms, skepticism, elections, economic disruptions, and compounding morbidity

My advice: If you don't need the job don't take it. These are uncertain times. SAVE MONEY if you have any means to. Stock up on extra food that you'll use (non perishable) to reduce trips to grocery store if things get bad in your area

[Anonymous No.11852398]

>>11852387
>>11852380
i appreciate your perspectives God bless, the work offered is only part time and really not that much, im hoping to find employment where i can work remotely from home

[Anonymous No.11852404]

>>11852398
If it's just part time, I'd would take it and then quit if things get heated IF your area is not too bad yet. It's only a matter of time before it burns through every town in the country but you might be okay for a while

[Anonymous No.11852410]

Why don't Americans flatten the curve?
We did it in germany just fine. Are Americans not autistic enough?

[Anonymous No.11852413]

>>11852410
most americans are really stupid due to our poor education

[Anonymous No.11852417]

>>11852014
so true
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&location=Brazil&location=India&location=Russia&location=US&location=United+Kingdom

[Anonymous No.11852423]

>>11852410
Flatten the curve was meant to keep the curve from ever getting to the point that hospitals were over capacity. That's been accomplished. The goalposts are attempted at being moved all over the place from "two more weeks" to "no one can go outside until there is a vaccine". This is causing pushback as different "solutions" being enacted often don't match the needs of the area in which they are being imposed.
If the US was serious about controlling the virus, they'd shutdown all mass transit. But they don't. Instead they're going for a voodoo ritual of placing gauze on their faces.

[Anonymous No.11852431]

>>11852423
Why don't people just stay home for a month? Everyone I know who can work from home started doing so. We sent our entire office home.
Idk, seems retarded to risk so much when all it takes is staying home for a month.

[Anonymous No.11852435]

>>11852010
>>11852014
>>11852015
>>11852022
>>11852031
>>11852109
>>11852119
>>11852126
>>11852148
It's okay everyone. As long as you identify as a protestor, then you're immune

[Anonymous No.11852457]

>>11852431
Even seen how quickly the grocery stores get cleaned out when there is a hurricane or blizzard coming to an area? Most people have very few provisions at home. Even if we knew a month in advance that everyone needed to stock up for a month of quarantine, the food system couldn't provide that much food in that window of time. Most aspects of our economy, including our home economies, is build for Just In Time (JIT) delivery. As a result, you can't keep everyone at home. You will need to have everyone involved with the food production logistics system out of their house and working. You'll also need a whole new system for delivering food to everyone during that month. Plus you need hospitals and all of the infrastructure around them. You also need for the electrical grid to keep running, the sewage systems to keep going, the water systems going, the internet and telecomm, etc. Each of these have their own constellation of supporting services. Then you have the issue of what happens if my toilet needs repair during that month? What if my AC goes out? Or my fridge? Each of these require more and more people to be out of their homes to provide these services.

[Anonymous No.11852459]

>>11852435
Funny how "research" said the exact opposite for the much smaller protests over the lockdown. It's almost as if the medical community is political and cannot be trusted.

[Anonymous No.11852466]

>>11852457
hence the word "essential"..

[Anonymous No.11852544]

>>11852457
In Europe we kept basic industries running with standards like wearing masks and distance while shutting down non essential industry + home office. It worked well and I only experienced some shortages of mostly imported goods.

[Anonymous No.11852577]

>>11852457
Obviously, only people who can work from home should stay home. Non essential businesses should be able to shut down for a few weeks.
People still went groceries shopping here. But they were required to wear masks and everyone needed to use a shopping cart. Also, they put tape on the floor to mark the distances you had to keep at the register and also installed plexiglas panels.
After 2-3 weeks, most restaurants had opened again so you could get take out there. Gyms and similar businesses handed asked people to keep paying their gym memberships but would add that time for free once the situation is over. Cinemas rented parking lots and organised car cinema. Delivery services now don't require you to sign, they ring the doorbell, step back and sign themselves once you give the okay.
It all worked really well here so idk why it's not working in the US. What's the problem?

[Anonymous No.11852605]

>>11852544
Wow so unique and smart

[Anonymous No.11852723]

>>11852605
it’s empirical evidence against your hypothetical out-of-your-ass prediction.

[Anonymous No.11852807]

>>11852423
>That's been accomplished.
sure bud
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/06/28/texas-hospital-says-100-of-icu-beds-full--then-removes-its-report/

[Anonymous No.11853625]

>>11852410
>We did it in germany just fine. Are Americans not autistic enough?
Can you give us your personal experience for how it was handled in Germany?

[Anonymous No.11853632]

>>11852466
I don't know how to tell you this, but in most 1st world countries, the vast majority of jobs are "essential" to keep the system running. Everything is interconnected.

[Anonymous No.11853642]

>>11852577
>What's the problem?
most states didn't do lockdowns
states that did do lockdowns did them half assed, as in businesses could declare themselves essential and there was no enforcement of people who broke lockdown
no contact tracing of any kind was ever done
US has no central authority of healthcare, even at the state level it's broken down into county by county policies and actions

[Anonymous No.11853666]

>>11852282
For what it's worth, I'm in a similar situation. My parents are in the very high risk category. Both had pneumonia earlier this year (I'm not entirely sure it wasn't COVID-19, this was in January, they were both in terrible shape and neither tested positive for the flu), both have multiple comorbidities. Fortunately I was allowed to telework starting in March, but I still had to make a couple trips out per week for essentials. Whenever I came home, I'd immediately shower and sanitize any surface I touched after entering the house. I've also been sanitizing all the commonly touched surfaces every night. So far so good, but I'm now being forced to return to the office tomorrow There's going to be very few people (far less than I'd encounter during a grocery run), however, that will change over the next month as more people are brought back. I'm going to continue being anal about my cleanliness, but I will bail on the job if conditions in my area start going south and my company doesn't offer the opportunity to telework again.

I don't know your personal situation, so I can't tell you what the right thing to do is. Is it a dream job? Do you need the money or can you manage for a while? Could you take the job and quit later on if things get bad? How many people would you be exposed to if you took the job? What precautions is the company taking (i.e. is everyone required to wear masks and is adequate space provided to maintain social distancing). All of that needs to be weighed with the time frame in mind that this is going to last through the winter at least, no vaccine will be available until early in 2021 at best, and the vaccine is far from a sure thing.

[Anonymous No.11853692]

>>11852577
>What's the problem?
Too many Americans consider the seven deadly sins to be virtues instead.

[Anonymous No.11853722]

>>11852577
>Non essential
Explain. If they're non essential then the people who do those jobs aren't essential either then right?
>After 2-3 weeks, most restaurants had opened again so you could get take out there
No.
>It all worked really well here so idk why it's not working in the US. What's the problem?
Poor people exist here. Idk wherever you're from, but usually poor people don't order on grubhub.

>>11852423
>If the US was serious about controlling the virus, they'd shutdown all mass transit. But they don't. Instead they're going for a voodoo ritual of placing gauze on their faces.
Unlike most socialists places in the world, we still need to import more immigrants to change the demograph. Eurofags don't have to worry about elections so it's easy to shutdown. Here, when our leader tries to shutdown travel to the source of the virus (China, never forget that!) he's met with backlash.

>>11852413
most americans are really stupid due to our poor education

>>11852410
Because you can't be racist against a virus here in doublethink land.

[Anonymous No.11853852]

>>11852577
I'm in Maryland, and quite a bit of what you described was true of here.

>People still went groceries shopping here. But they were required to wear masks and everyone needed to use a shopping cart. Also, they put tape on the floor to mark the distances you had to keep at the register and also installed plexiglas panels.
Yes.

>After 2-3 weeks, most restaurants had opened again so you could get take out there.
Yes.

>Delivery services now don't require you to sign, they ring the doorbell, step back and sign themselves once you give the okay.
Yes.

[Anonymous No.11853908]

>>11853666
both my parents as well, its far from fream, just a job to keep money flowing in but its bare minimum, i just thought uts something rather than nothing, but id much rather find a remote job from home but itll be hard since i have no technical background or schooling

[Anonymous No.11853957]

>>11853632
True. The main thing that could be shutdown is the entertainment industry but even that has negative side effects as we've seen hundreds of thousands of bored people out in the streets rioting. If the NBA never shutdown there wouldn't have been any riots except in the city of whoever won the championship.

[Anonymous No.11854257]

>>11853908
It's a tough decision. While I don't like the direction some states are trending in, I still feel like things will get worse across the country once we're in flu season. It may be safer to work now than it will be in January. There's just so many unknowns, and unfortunately most people can't put their lives on hold for another year to watch how things play out.

If you choose not to work, maybe you should start looking at getting some accreditation online that might give you more job opportunities in the future.

[Anonymous No.11854261]

>>11852431
Were on month 3

[Anonymous No.11854442]

>>11854257
im thinking of learning code, well see though, not a simple resolution to make since it requires a vast amount of time invested

[Anonymous No.11854724]

>>11854442
>since it requires a vast amount of time invested
it takes like a week, maybe three
only hard part is actually gitting gud

[Anonymous No.11855678]

>>11854724
> a week, maybe three
my dude are you serious lol any free links you can send my way?

[Anonymous No.11855844]

>>11852410
Its because Germans acquired partial immunity from prior transient exposure to zyclon-b.
Its also because US is full of niggers and spics with shit genetics and US hospitals overreport COVID cases because they get money, you ignorant kraut.